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No. 2574678
This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology? Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.
Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.
Relevant threads:
MtF/Trans-Identified Male General
>>>/snow/2125031FtM / fakeboi / TIF general
>>>/snow/2121594Ovarit Archives
https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/38865.html#38865Resources:
Peak trans stories from banned Gender Critical subreddit:
https://www.saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/54yt/gcs_peak_trans_archived/ Peak trans stories from Ovarit:
https://pixeldrain.com/l/JTwRJCYR “Listen to trans people” series:
https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1897370783816790064 “You told me you were different” TIM on TIF violence anthology:
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1E3552778745CA46FE01054D2886BB3DPrevious threads:
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I can't stop thinking about how someone the other farms brought up how testosterone doesn't just affect children of TIFs but grandchildren. Especially since eggs are formed in utero for any female children. Testosterone is a carcinogen and a teratogen. I don't understand how we tolerate TIFs poisoning children. Or using T-gel which gets everywhere and exposes other unwilling people or animals to poison. Even small amounts of the gel contain high does of T to contaminate food or anything they touch.
No. 2574912
>>2574471 Nayrt, but personally I wouldn't want to "show off" around a tim. If he were to become angry enough to write a reddit post about it, then he'd probably fantasize about hateraping you to "conquer" the woman who made him feel inferior.
>>2573464I'd suggest wearing swim-trunks and some kind of swim-shirt/a one-piece under it if you have to be around him. At the core of it, he's a man and he probably likes ogling women even if it also makes him angry because he can't have/be you.
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>Hmm. Today I will look up fanart of my IDV mains sucking face.
>Find picrel
We already know what kind of mental illness causes people to become trans, but what in the goddamn is causing kids to see fictional characters like "autistic serial killer guy" and see "OMG POLYROMANTIC TRANSFEMININE ACHILLEAN SOFTBOY WHO'S QUEER PLATONIC WITH MY FICTIONKIN IDENTITY :3333"? Because we need to find the source and kill it fast.
No. 2574969
>>2574825I don't have proof of anything, but since magatards are an American voter group, and uk feminists are on another continent, I'd think that would be a good enough reason to assume it's not happening. What are UK feminists going to do about a country with 10x the population across an ocean?
>>2574763This is especially disturbing when I think about the fact I and several of my (now normal, healthy, and in most cases, straight) friends used to all talk about this and agree we wish we were born boys after puberty hit. None of us trooned out and I was probably the only one who was even notably GNC. I'd like to think if I was younger and 13 when all this was happening I still wouldn't troon out because I have never really followed youth fads like my peers did but I'm pretty sure at least one of my friends and many similar girls would have. Isn't it extremely common for girls to wish they were boys once puberty hits and they realize all the downsides to growing up female?
No. 2574988
>>2574977Normally I just stick to ignoring the global chat and looking for fanart on Pixiv, but Tumblr still has a lot of good fanartists who prefer the archival system the site offers. But there are either A) A bunch of retards who never got over their 2012 Tumblr phase or B) A bunch of children who heard Tumblr was cool who still post shit like this.
It's hard and nobody understands orz
No. 2575007
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Went on an outing into the city yesterday and the ugly ass “progress” troon flags painted over what used to just be a rainbow still pisses me off. I don’t feel safe using the restrooms out there anymore. But when I went to the game store the girl at the counter was talking to me about hogwarts legacy unprompted and how good it runs and that made me feel slightly better.
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>>2574763>A young girl goes through puberty and is immediately objectified by the patriarchy.>She (reasonably) hates it. She internalizes that hate, so she wishes she could change rather than society changing and learning to humanize women and not treat them like objects for sexual gratification.>Instead of teaching this young girl about feminism, self love and dismantling the patriarchy, troons tell her, "Yes, you were born in the wrong body! If you go on harmful drugs for the rest of your life, then you can 'fix' your deeply flawed (flawed being she is a woman that doesn't like being commodified) body!"Disgusting. I fucking despise these 'people'.
No. 2575343
Trans Academic "Andrea" Long Chu wrote a book which is literally his sissy force-fem fetish
>Femaleness is a universal existential category defined by the assumption of a desire which is not one’s own. It’s not just that other people are forcing you to do things; it’s that your desire comes from without you, it does not originate within you, but it is assumed as your own. That being the case, the theory of gender that I put forward in the book is that gender is the opposite of a sexuality: your sexual identity is the expression of “your own sexuality”; your gender identity is the expression of someone else’s sexuality. It has to do with what is assumed in the production of desire in the first place. So, being a “woman” – and this is the most traditional second-wave [Catharine] MacKinnon line – is defined as being what a man wants. Now I find that very appealing; it can then be diversified significantly. We don’t have to be talking about women, we can be talking about men, or more specific kinds of gender, like a certain type of trans-femininity. I also describe gender in the book as a coping mechanism, as how you cope with femaleness. Because femaleness in its most pure, unmediated form, is self-abolishing – that is abolishing of the self, not abolishing of femaleness. It’s destructive, self-abnegating. So gender is also an attempt at degrees of defeminisation, “un-femalisation” – so as to make being female survivable. Because otherwise you would just be completely flattened out by the force of the desire of the other. In that sense those quote-unquote men and quote-unquote women, are attempts to reconcile with and to repress femaleness.>On a granular level, it’s a riposte to Freud, actually. In Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality, he’s thinking about the libido. Running through those essays, there’s a lot about the “active” and “passive” and how he is uncomfortable with those terms. He sounds like a gender-studies student. Eventually he says, “Well, I guess you could call the libido masculine, but only if you understood masculine as not really to do with men, but to do with the active position.” He’s already aware that there’s something weird about using a gendered term for this thing that he wants to define psychodynamically – in terms of interpersonal relation. The move of my book was to say, no actually that was wrong, or it was half-right. Freud was right that the libido has only one sex, he was just wrong about which sex it was. Which is to say that – to use another Freudian term – I too would assert the universality of the castration complex, but I have the opposite interpretation of it. Which is that it’s not that the little boy is afraid that he is going to be castrated, but he is afraid that he is going to like it.>It’s long been accepted that there is a difference between the phallus and the penis. The phallus is an ideal category to which the penis strives. The penis itself, in not being a phallus, is a sign of castration. The fact that you have a penis and not a phallus is already a first step towards castration. Even if your penis hasn’t been chopped off yet. I am taking advantage of that discrepancy, as any Lacanian would, but pushing it in the opposite direction.>Inevitable, the question is not whether or not you will have it, the question is, what it will mean that you don’t have it. The trick of patriarchy – and this is very much a Solanasian idea – is to convince everyone that not having the phallus is a bad thing, when in fact it is the thing that everyone desires the most: the relief of no longer having to hold yourself to phallic idealisation>One would be a different relation to TERFs. I’m willing to get cosy with them, in a way that I like to imagine is uncomfortable to them, but it is also uncomfortable for other trans people. I am willing to say – what actually leads Sheila Jeffreys or Janice Raymond to say the things they say? Rather than ignoring that stuff because I find it offensive or transphobic, which I do, I try and engage with that tradition, though it’s sad to call it a tradition. This is because I believe that the best way to develop a strong defence against those ideas is to deflate and dismantle their arguments, and that means getting very close to them. You know, I occasionally get called a TERF on Twitter or see myself referred to as kind of TERF-y. And I understand why people say that. I get the discomfort with my approach. But that feature would certainly be one component. Second is a shift to desire. This is arguably a return to desire – in the sense that in early sexology, those first medical conceptions of “transsexuality” or “transvestitism” under people like Magnus Hirschfeld and the Institute for Sexual Science, transness was understood as a sexual phenomenon. Transsexuality is a sexuality. That was an old sexological idea. And that necessarily fell away in the course of trans people trying to define themselves outside of a medicalised system, and trans people seeking legal protections. For this, it was necessary to cut sexuality out of the equation. In that sense, bringing sexuality back would be a characteristic of a second wave of trans studies. And I acknowledge that there is a sort of dialectical nature to it. Indeed, one could not have started where I started. You need the first wave in order to have a second wave. But the reintroduction of sexuality into transness is really essential. It’s what the ignorant Christian people that I grew up around would have thought – that I was a form of sexual perversion, not gender perversion, specifically sexual perversion. So I take some pleasure in at last agreeing with them. https://magazine.tank.tv/issue-81/talks/andrea-long-chu No. 2575370
>>2575343Moids have 0 theory of mind. If being a woman is “being wanted”, what does that say about men? Are men men because they are wanted by women? No, because women according to his definition, women do not have an internally motivated sense of attraction.
Therefore men are only men if they want women, if they become an usurper of a female’s sexuality, which she has no option but to acquiesce to (because she’s a woman, and this is his definition of woman). Ironically, this is exactly what troons do and what makes them so obviously male. Not only in their sexual targets, but how they view their own sexualities.
It’s such a heterosexual male interpretation of reality projected onto the whole of society. In which females are always “desired”, in which males who want to be desired become women, lesser, objects with no will, and exist only to be acted upon.
A heterosexual couple that mutually desire one another must become female and male simultaneously - what you would logically conclude if you weren’t a mentally stunted moid who was incapable of decoupling femaleness/“femininity” with “object of desire”.
This philosophy makes no sense when you account for hetero women (and homosexual men) having separate targets of desire (males). Or even lesbians, who cannot participate in this dynamic since there is no male perspective involved and the whole system fails to launch.
I can’t believe leftists/liberals just let a bunch of moids essentially blather on about their chimp-like sexualities and accept it as progressive because they use college-educated words to explain it. Actually I can, most men are like this and enough are on the left.
No. 2575377
>>2575343Troons cannot explain women who actively desire moids. 1 fucking fujoshi is enough to throw a wrench into this entire operation.
How does this troon explain a female being lustful of her own volition? How does this troon explain how her object of desire is unmistakably and deliberately male?
This whole fixation on power dynamics and hierarchies is so inextricably male. It’s so ironic that these are the moids who claim to be women. They are the most manly male brained men who ever maled at maletown.
No. 2575694
>>2575343nta but the fact that andrea long chu still somehow gets shilled and allowed to write pieces for major corporations is proof that gender ideology is just a men's rights movement. when's the last time a tif 'academic' reached anywhere near the same level of fame as andrea? how many famous tif writers and public figures can you name? how about any tifs in public office like sarah mcbride? it's all about men at the end of the day.
>>2575665nonnie you should post this in the punk cringe thread too kekkk
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fuck it i need to get this out of my system. thought i should make more trans-inclusive art what do you guys think
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>>2575816Purely anecdotal but my TIM brother is about 6’4 and thinks he passes. I remember reading theories about tall, lanky phenotypes being over represented in autistic populations so that probably has something to do with it as well.
I filled out picrel for my brother I hope some
nonny enjoys it
No. 2575839
>>2575665All troonism is just a very honest portrayal of chimp moid sexuality.
Women are objects to be had, other moids are your competition/enemies. That’s the gist of it. Then you mix it all up with a bunch of flowery language and start falsely applying this framework to everyone else- now it’s “queer theory”.
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>>2575838>bro is a tranny and a furryI’m so sorry nona I hope your parents don’t coddle him.
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>>2575007That flag really does represent the troon movement perfectly, just not in the way they intended.
No. 2576088
I’m in a discord server for a stereotypically feminine interest and there’s this one TIM who keeps trying wayy too hard to relate to the women in it. But like a third of the women are TIFs so every time he posts something along the lines of “oh em gee just girly things amirite fellow gurlz??” all the TIFs come down hard on him saying that “boys like X interest too!” and he slinks off. It’s hilarious.
>>2575956Everyone I know who was actually gnc as a child either never identified as trans or only very briefly dipped their toes in and quickly desisted. At the same time, the TIFs I knew as children all claim they knew they were boys on the inside from age 2, but were in fact very gender conforming girls who wanted to be Disney princesses and only liked cute pink Pokémon. Reading their historical revisionism of their own childhood is wild. “I never played with other girls, I only ever roughhoused with the boys!” Ma’am you had a Disney princess birthday party every year for five years in a row and tried to disinvite me after the first one because my party dress wasn’t sufficiently frilly enough. “I’ve never been girly” my ass.
I think being actually gnc requires a resilience and sense of personal identity that TIFs lack. Instead they just go along with what their friends are doing and do whatever they think will improve their standing in the group and get them positive attention. When they were 6 this meant having the frilliest princess party dress, and now that they’re in their late 20’s and early 30’s with all-gendie friend groups it means being the mascest brodudeking with the most heckin’ pubebeard and the gnarliest mastectomy scars.
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>>2576175nta but they can affect the system for a long time even if they don't literally 'stay in your system' since they change your entire hormonal balance. It can take years to get your periods back after stopping a course of bc, and in some cases they will never go back to normal. If you recognize that TIMs taking birth control hormones permanently change their bodies, not sure why you think it would not potentially cause permanent or long-term changes for women.
>>2576088>I think being actually gnc requires a resilience and sense of personal identity that TIFs lack. I agree and most of the TIFs I knew since childhood were always stereotypically feminine girls too, but more than that, were wallflowers with a pack mentality who did everything their friends did. Not one of the girls I know from my youth who trooned out was any kind of individualist.
No. 2576347
>>2576276Most of the hormones in bc (the progestins specifically) are synthetic and typically derived from androgens. The pill is not 'estrogen only' and yes it does mess with the woman's body and natural cycle. Does it mess with women as much as it probably messes with men? No, but the idea that it wouldn't have long-lasting effects to put synthetic hormones in your body as a woman because they 'flush out' or something is silly because you can see that moids do have long term effects from taking synthetic hormones. Of course women do too.
>>2576314Yeah I've only known one troon who tried to be stealth and it was an HSTS moid. I've never seen a group of people so invested in wearing literal tags on the clothing telling people their identity kek.
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>>2575956>>2576088Facts, I have never met a TIF into guns or hunting or sports. Or computing, modding, speed-running, etc the way TIMs are. All of the TIFs I knew were really into fandom and fanfiction or Steven Universe Hazbin Hotel shit.
>resilience and sense of personal identity that TIFs lackI actually think they are more feminine on average compared to normal women because of this. Beyond hobbies TIFs are very thin-skinned, sensitive to social discourse, focus internally on feelings, etc. Compare how TIMs scream about "girldick" and constant gross fetish shit, barge into female-dominated spaces, and try to manipulate lesbians into sex (without seemingly caring about how the woman feels) vs how TIFs whine about not feeling desired and cry over gay men being rude to them.
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>>2575343>>2575370there is actually a whole subreddit shared by incel and incel transbians who also claim that women can't possibly be attracted to men, these moids spend their entire lives as ugly degenerates and think it's part of the human condition
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>moid wants to date lesbians
>comments are tims hinting at trooning out
And handmaidens will still pressure lesbians to treat them as genuine women
No. 2576753
>>2576567>>2576611Oh, they exist… there were quite a few posted in the mtf threads on /snow/. They're hideous and somehow lower effort than the fag sissification fetish troons who pretend all women dress like whores.
>>2576644It's a man who basically keeps dressing mannish and "masc" but will accessorize with long hair and "femme" things like jewelry or collars (yuck). They want to look like "butch lesbians" in an attempt to draw in "femmes".
>>2576540I support you and your little FAS darling. Bottoms up!
Actually, if you drink enough vodka, would it end up killing the baby or only deform it? I'm really interested in future studies comparing the effects of hrt on fetuses vs the effects of alcohol. The theory that it affects the future child's egg/sperm rather than the child itself is really interesting to me.
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>>2576540I think those anons were saying that it's not good to overly restrict what pregnant mothers are allowed to do, because it becomes a slippery slope. At least that's how I interpreted it. I do think it's a travesty that TIFs taking testosterone are getting pregnant because they're probably fucking up their children's and grandchildren's lives, but I also wouldn't want to introduce laws or more social shaming to control pregnant women's behavior more. That can eventually be used to prosecute women legally for just breathing wrong while pregnant so I think it's better to go to the source and try to get medical transition banned rather than ban pregnant women taking certain hormones or substances or eating certain things. If doctors weren't handing out T like candy to vulnerable women and girls, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
>>2576553This is all just cope because lesbians will never date or be attracted to TIMs either. It's just going to be the same 'lame' bi girls the moid was capable of dating before, except worse because bi women are far more likely to date a normal man than a TIM, and lesbian-larping straight women.
>>2576618Kek I once talked a friend (who is a singer) out of trooning out by asking her if she would be fine losing her voice. She was like 'oh wait I never thought of that, that would really bother me.' She would have sounded really stupid too because she had an extremely high-pitched soft cute squeaky voice, which would have sounded hilarious as a frog voice, like a teenage moid who inhaled helium.
>>2576753>The theory that it affects the future child's egg/sperm rather than the child itself is really interesting to me.It would almost certainly do both. Having high testosterone levels while pregnant probably causes developmental issues for the child itself, but is also likely to affect their eggs.
No. 2577051
>>2576753>The theory that it affects the future child's egg/sperm rather than the child itself is really interesting to me.This, or rather the fact that it affects
both the fetus and the fetus’ germline, is true for anything that seriously affects the developing fetus, especially something like smoking. If your grandmother (and especially your maternal grandmother) smoked or inhaled a lot of secondhand smoke during her pregnancy with your parent, that’s now part of your DNA.
>>2576822>That can eventually be used to prosecute women legally for just breathing wrong while pregnant so I think it's better to go to the source and try to get medical transition bannedAgreed. Woman-hating pronatalist nutters are already throwing women in jail for “endangering their baby” even when it turns out the woman’s not even pregnant, and this is not something feminist should encourage. What we can do is advocate for the banning of universally harmful shit like cross-sex hormones and especially pharmacy-aided testosterone-poisoning of women and girls, smoking, microplastics etc. These things fuck up men and their germlines too, so it makes no sense to only police women.
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>>2577051>throwing women in jail for “endangering their baby” even when it turns out the woman’s not even pregnantWait what, OT I know but do you have a link? Not that this would especially surprise me but I never heard of that.
I'm generally libertarian when it comes to what people can decide to do to their bodies (smoking, drinking, risky behavior like extreme sports, choosing not to wear seatbelts in cars etc) but I think there's a strong precedent for stopping things at the source when it comes to prescription drugs/medications being prescribed that don't even treat a real medical issue, same with unnecessary surgeries. There is no reason why doctors who swore the Hippocratic oath and are paid - in many cases, public money or insurance money that other people pay into - to help treat/prevent illnesses should be pressured (or, honestly, even allowed, but especially pressured which is what current medical association "best practices" do) to prescribe people dangerous/controlled medications just for shits and giggles, which is really what prescribing cross-sex hormones is. If people want to go through back channels to procure roids, T, whatever, that's their risk to take, but a woman waltzing into a doctor's office and saying 'I want to look like a man so give me testosterone' and then getting it because she might feel sad if she doesn't get it is horrible medical practice and I hope all these medical associations, WPATH etc. get sued for billions for it soon.
I can't just walk into a doctor's office and ask for codeine (even if I really am experiencing actual severe pain!) and just get it handed to me, because it has a risk of addiction which doctors have deemed generally more risky than crippling pain. If I had severe painful cystic acne and wanted to get Accutane I'd have to do multiple pregnancy tests in a lab first to prove that I'm not pregnant, go on two forms of birth control and sign waivers explaining that I know if I get pregnant the baby will likely have birth defects and a doctor would encourage me to get an abortion if I somehow got pregnant on Accutane. But I can walk into a doctor's office one time and get a prescription for testosterone a week later because 'I don't like how I look and my body is distressing me' or 'I like blue and cars and I don't like skirts' and they wouldn't even warn me about risks to potential babies, let alone make me go through a bunch of tests to prove I'm not pregnant and put me on multiple forms of birth control. And it's not even treating any health issues or preventing them. What makes things worse like an anon said above is that Tgel transfers to other people via touch, so women who take it aren't just endangering themselves and their offspring and their offspring's offspring, they are also endangering random people in public who touch the same door knob as them or sit on the same bus seat or brush against them in the street, and especially people they see and touch regularly. They could be giving random women around them PCOS or other hormonal conditions without that person ever knowing or suspecting anything. The fact that doctors are allowed to be insanely irresponsible with this one class of drugs and surgeries that aren't even a treatment for anything and with the people who take them rarely being informed of the true risks, and will go so far as to guilt trip or even legally override parents who want to block their children from getting them, is truly insanity.
I know it's common for GC women and radfems to say 'I wouldn't want to make transition illegal' or 'do what you want once you're an adult' but even that makes no sense to me. Sure if some troon gets bathtub estrogen or T through some dubiously legal websites they shouldn't be punished or prosecuted for taking the drugs, but in no way should the medical industry be complicit in harming people like this, especially when it can affect other unsuspecting people who haven't consented. There has been a slow creep over the last half-century of pharma companies and medical associations pushing more and more 'medicine' that isn't for the purpose of treating or preventing any actual illnesses and I think we should all as a society stop taking this for granted and considering it normal. Yes I also believe this about non-corrective cosmetic plastic surgery but I know that might be a hot take on lolcow. At least with PS they're only hurting themselves and they usually (unless they're troons) have to pay out-of-pocket for it though.
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they were interviewing a tif in a paper i read (about some imaginary victim shit) and they showed her bedroon.
it's alost scary how identical they all are. how the fuck are they all so similar? are they fucking pod people?
No. 2577346
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Removing an explicit book from the children's section of the library is not the same as banning a book from publication. Teaching children that they have a internal gender soul is religion being taught in schools.
The "read banned books" crowd only endorses reading cutesy books about gender or being gay. Reading banned books isn't cool when it's Irreversible Damage or Mein Kampf or The Turner Diaries or anything actually socially controversial. Most progressives who go on about banned books have the exact opposite core viewpoint and want to ban and censor anything they dislike.
No. 2577368
>>2577193It's a cute bedroom from the layout I see, but the decor is wild. How many pride flags do you need? And the tranny flag is always the largest (and always unironed)
They have no personality outside of twt and tiktok
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I realized something today: the parents of "trans kids" are engaging in a real-life version of the Milgram Experiment. If you're unfamiliar, the Milgram Experiment is meant to test subservience to authority. Basically, the test subject is ordered by a seemingly authoritative figure to deliver increasingly high electric shocks to someone they don't realize is an actor who isn't actually being shocked. The experiment found that the majority of participants would listen to orders even as the voltage increased to lethal amounts and the actors screamed in (what appeared to be) pain. What it basically demonstrated is that the average normie is shockingly willing to listen to authority figures (in this case, scientists) even if it can be plainly observed that the orders are harmful or unethical.
I see a similar level of deference to "scientific authority" with non-MBP parents of "trans kids." They give their gay and/or autistic kids drugs that damage their bones and lower their IQs because ill-informed or ideologically captured doctors tell them to, persisting with the treatment even when it does not produce an appreciable improvement in mental health for their child. Scientist Man told them, you see, so it must be Moral and Safe. They don't account for the possibility of activist influence, publication bias, or how profitable lifelong captive customers are for pharma companies. Look, I generally trust medical science, but it's not perfect, especially when it comes to psychiatric medicine. There used to be "scientific consensus" that lobotomy was safe and ethical, too. If you're a parent who constantly gets fed emotional blackmail by medical professionals who should know better, you're probably convinced that whatever harm you're doing to your kid is "okay" so long as it "prevents" suicide (even though there's no evidence it actually does).
My advice to anons is to trust your own judgement and not to blindly follow those presented as "authorities," although I doubt anyone here needs to be told that. You don't become GC or a radfem if you're the type of person who blindly obeys.
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Sage for a 7 year old post, but do they really think women have no culture? I wish I could say I highly doubt any real woman told him women have no culture, but there’s plenty of handmaidens that have no knowledge about women’s history.
It just goes to show how shallow troon’s understandings of womanhood are.
No. 2577903
>>2577346>Reading banned books isn't cool when it's Irreversible Damage or Mein KampfI've only heard it in passing and I literally thought it was people saying they read mein kampf and similar lmao
But yeah if reading banned books is cool and you recognize books get unfairly banned based on false notions; then also read the books your trans friends burn and ban.
No. 2577965
>>2577266I don't think so but you should try to make one, nonna. There's so much good material out there since they have such a specific and conformist way of consooming and decorating. TIMs always seem to have dirty hoarder goon caves full of plastic anime crap while TIFs always have the wall of plushies, cutesy cactus/bug/dinosaur related art and tons of flags/affirmation posters. Both TIFs and TIMs seem to lack proper furniture and spend their money on figurines and plushies and comic books instead.
>>2577346Yeah it's extremely ironic that they actually try to get speech banned or introduce compelled speech laws, attempt to attack/boycott popular appropriate books and games like Harry Potter, but then whine about books being banned when it's just taking pornographic grooming materials out of elementary and middle school libraries. Those books can still be bought and read, and if they want to indoctrinate their own children into gender theory they're still allowed, but they want to forcibly expose everyone else's children too, on the taxpayer's dime no less.
In Canada recently there was a controversy because most pre-2008 books were taken out of school libraries in one of the provinces, including a lot of classic lit and old children's favorites to modernize and update the collection, and liberals were all for that, mocking the parents who were against removing classic lit from school libraries. They were also all for firing tenured profs and censoring their research into gender medicine if it didn't toe the party line. But the second it's some graphic illustrated sex guide it's literal book burning nazi censorship! If TRAs didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all.
No. 2578015
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could hrt at puberty for a woman make her grow above 5'3"? what the fuck are they talking about, surely not, right
No. 2578021
File: 1750811334681.png (120.48 KB, 596x914, detrans fearmongering.png)
also here's some more detrans whinging. i see so much talk of 'detransitioners' now that it makes me think the trans movement is starting to collapse internally. which is based
No. 2578053
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just discovered whipping girl. does anyone know more about the author?
No. 2578056
>>2578015HRT, like artificial testosterone for a woman will not make them grow. Human growth hormone has been known to make children taller. But honestly, if your child is perfectly healthy, I would highly advise against HGH from the adverse side effects alone. Better to be a healthy shortie than some cancerous, diabetic, heart disease ridden beanpole.
The best way for a child to grow taller without adverse side effects is adequate exercise, good, high protein diet, and proper sleep.
As someone who used to have a special interest in bodybuilding and studied all these performance enhancing drugs before the troon shit, I think it's fucking insane that doctors are giving women this shit.
They know it's bad, that's why they aren't giving it to scrawny incel moids.
No. 2578117
>>2578091from my experience, tifs love to see vi (hot butch lesbian/bisexual woman) as a tif. this runs the gamut from using he/him to full-on drawing her as the traditional male body with zippertit tattoos.
>>2577193>how the fuck are they all so similar? are they fucking pod people?they all come from the same places and have the same influences. once you've seen enough tifs you will form the useless, magical power of predicting their pronouns and egg crack event or whatever based purely on their pfp.
No. 2578248
>>2578244Women troon out because of abuse
Moids troon out because of porn addiction
Both can because of grooming tho
No. 2578283
>>2575816Nona, I am extremely lanky with big feet/hands and small boobs. I used to want to become a TIF, but not because of my looks, but tbh, I think most of the non-dymorphic people just accept being gnc like me or become thembies. A lot of short men I met are fags, and they embrace it, maybe occasionally paint their nails or wear a skirt or smth. I think troonism just doesn't come naturally to sane people, it's always the bippies who mald over something they can never have and even try to achieve.
I am also malding though because for the past couple of years people assume I am a tranny A LOT. Both TIM and TIF somehow. I hate this shit becoming normalized and I wish I could just exist as a butch woman without invasive questions and transvestigations from randoms on the street.
No. 2578323
File: 1750841229795.webp (1.58 MB, 3840x1600, books_hero.webp)
In a world of trans bs being pushed by the most loud and aggressive people as if it's the "right side of history", it sure is nice to see that every bookshop and kids store in town has a dedicated Harry Potter section. TRA say buying the books or playing the games is "trans genocide", yet even the woke nerdy book store in town has a massive HP section with all sorts of goods. But they wouldn't ever sell nazi books because they know those are actually bad. So they do know the trans stuff isn't true and that people want to buy HP
No. 2578355
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>>2578314No one but TRAs does. They cherry-pick the lowest poly versions of TP Zelda they can find and he still doesn't look right for the part. The versions of Zelda most audiences are currently familiar with are OOT and BOTW, neither of which even remotely resemble Honter, who is a shapeless skelly beanpole with wide shoulders and harsh masculine features. And also he's just too old for the part.
No. 2578397
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average troon supporting moid
No. 2578400
>>2578397This is why I don't support male "
victims"- this guy definitely had his little prostate popped open by his dad and he's taking it out on women.
No. 2578413
>>2578397This isn’t the first male leftist I have seen who has expressed this bitter annoyance over being reminded women and children are sexually abused. They just condescend and tell
victims to STFU, bonus if they call you inferior all around for being stupid enough to get abused in the first place.
No. 2578462
>>2578458Estrogen is much, much weaker than testosterone, that's why women grow full beards and men barely get gynecomastia.
Men on horsepiss still have to get laser hair removal, their voice is still clockable and their hair becomes greasy but that shit doesn't grow back.
No. 2578478
>>2578248I would say it's more accurate that TIFs troon to become non-women while TIMs troon to become what they view as a sex object. I don't think most TIFs on Twitter or Tumblr or TikTok online were abused even if a large chunk were.
>>2578458This is the level or above the level of understanding that normies have for troon issues. Remember that most normies think that troons are homosexuals and that you can actually turn into the opposite sex with hormones and surgery.
No. 2578561
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>>2578146Kek anon it was supposedly a 'miscommunication' but when the articles about it first started getting published I saw tons of leftists defending this and saying it's normal to update school library collections, nothing to see here, kids would be bored by older books anyway or they might be insensitive/racist/sexist so it's good they're gone.
>In the spring, Takata says students were told by staff that "if the shelves look emptier right now it's because we have to remove all books [published] prior to 2008." >Takata is one of several Peel District School Board (PDSB) students, parents and community members CBC Toronto spoke to who are concerned about a seemingly inconsistent approach to a new equity-based book weeding process implemented by the board last spring in response to a provincial directive from the Minister of Education. >They say the new process, intended to ensure library books are inclusive, appears to have led some schools to remove thousands of books solely because they were published in 2008 or earlier.>Parents and students are looking for answers as to why this happened, and what the board plans to do moving forward.>Ellard says he's talked to the parent council, his son's principal and his school board trustee. He's also contacted members of the provincial government, but says he hasn't received a substantial response about what happened in the spring and how the process is intended to work.>"Books published prior to 2008 that are damaged, inaccurate, or do not have strong circulation data (are not being checked out by students) are removed," said the board in its statement. >If damaged books have strong circulation the board says they can be replaced regardless of publication date, and older titles can stay in the collection if they are "accurate, serve the curriculum, align with board initiatives and are responsive to student interest and engagement.">"The Peel District School Board works to ensure that the books available in our school libraries are culturally responsive, relevant, inclusive, and reflective of the diversity of our school communities and the broader society," said the board.>Dianne Lawson, a member of Libraries not Landfills, says teachers told her The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank and The Very Hungry Caterpillar by Eric Carle were removed from their school libraries as part of the PDSB weeding process. Kek the very hungry caterpillar
>"I can't find any sedition in it, or any reason why you would pull this book.">When it comes to disposing of the books that are weeded, the board documents say the resources are "causing harm," either as a health hazard because of the condition of the book or because "they are not inclusive, culturally responsive, relevant or accurate.">For those reasons, the documents say the books cannot be donated, as "they are not suitable for any learners." So, make of that what you will, but I do find it ironic/hypocritical that liberals were supporting this but suddenly outraged at straight-up pornographic grooming books being removed, or are completely fine with Lolita Express bus driver probably getting no more than a reprimand.
No. 2578585
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>>2578053He was one of the most famous and trendy TRA thought leaders 5-10 years ago, largely because he has an actual science education/credentials which he used to lie that sex isn't real/is a spectrum and there's no sex binary in humans, and you know how much TRAs love to defer to The Science so he was a perfect figurehead. Unfortunately Whipping Girl was a really gross AGP book which I don't think did him any favors as most TRAs briefly Htried to distance themselves a little from the more obvious AGP coomers in the community for optics. He's also a hideous freak who barely tries to present female which also made him bad for the tiktok gen so he kind of fell off after tiktok influencing got big.
No. 2578789
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life must be a blast being this delusional
No. 2578816
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im going to puke. fucking skinwalking diseases. yet another case of how these putrid subhumans will never be women. they will never think, act, or resemble us in any shape or form. kill all trannies
No. 2578821
>>2578816Wtf is frotting?
>penetrationKEK so just… faggot shitdick activities?
No. 2578823
>>2578821Frotting is
moids rubbing their dicks together..
No. 2578853
>>2578816>disappointing incels with AGP trying to will themselves to be gay because no real woman wants them (fail)He is crying while penetrating because he is thinking about how stacy rejected him in middle school (because he was a fucking misogynist creep, but that part is left unsaid).
Oh well, on the plus side he was able to make a comic about it for us to make fun of without having to actually see their disgusting bodies.
No. 2578857
>>2578816KEKKKK oh my fucking
god. This sounds like a nightmare.
No. 2578870
>>2578851It's either:
1. They are probably so blind to their own 5 o'clocks they don't see how bad it actually is
2. Too lazy
3. They don't even know lasering off is an option, because they have never had to think about beauty standards beyond what you can do with a regular razor
4. Beard or nah, long hair = woman DUH
5. All of the above
No. 2578888
File: 1750879427547.png (2.78 MB, 1080x6561, 1000053774.png)
The way the responses treat OP and their ex like "she chose her family over some puppylove troon" is giving major cult thinking. Like why are redditors always so keen to make others cut their families off for stupid shit?
I'm pretty sure OP is a TIF due to the anime boy pfp and the "pretend I'm a guy," portion.
No. 2578896
>>2578021>I'm not shaming you BUT you need to shut the fuck up and change your language and how you define your traumatic experiences to protect US!They're so retarded istg. It's no different from silencing
victims of grooming of any other kind.
No. 2578958
>>2578891He wouldn't have proof, but I've been honest about my views with some normies working there who would know it was true. I honestly don't know which side they'd take, though they seemed to agree with me with
terf talking points.
>>2578911Bring up how selfish he was to everyone and hold it against him for the rest of his life.
No. 2578971
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why do troons love to insert their gendieshit onto random characters that aren't the slightest resemblance of a trans person? it ruins fandoms for me and is honestly a nuisance when trying to find new content about a character. (mostly tifs i see around transwash male characters that they want to skinwalk, but there are a number of scrotal trannies around that do it too)
No. 2578996
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>>2578888Sorry I was looking at the comments what the absolute fuck is this?
No. 2579001
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At least they admit that they're delusional narc retards.
No. 2579012
>>2578889Pretend to be interested enough to give him terrible advice. Time to psyop him into getting a rotpocket and enough of a jaw shave that he can't talk! Help him reach the ultimate loli bimbo look by getting him to fry his hair off at home with copious amounts of bleach and recommending budget filler techs from Tiktok! Tell him to go to Mexico for a basement BBL and boob job combo so he can mog alllllll the cisfoids at the nude beach!
If you're worried about him reporting you, give him a trans flag sticker or something every month to keep him quiet, if he malds about you being twansphobic you can point out that you shower him in trans flag crap and applaud his failed attempts to Frankenstein himself into a woman.
>>2578021I've seen a lot more unprompted detrans seething on Tumblr lately. I think that Cass report and the recent UK rulings on women being adult human females has sparked a lot of debate on troonblr that the troons can't counter. More and more detransers are coming out about why they transitioned in the first place, usually homophobia or misogyny, so it doesn't matter that they still sooper dooper support trans rights, their existence points to transgenderism being at least partly fueled by the hatred of women and the hatred of same-sex attraction. Which it is, but nobody's allowed to say it.
The other side of it is the 'de' part of detrans. If someone is trans, they're trans, period- no questioning allowed, no therapy, no looking for other root causes of dysphoria. There can't be a 'de' in 'trans' without the whole modern movement falling apart. Pushing detransers and desisters into a separate shunned category is damage control because they're grifters and liars, and nice trans folqxz don't talk to grifters and liars without suffering the consequences.
No. 2579038
>>2579012>Pretend to be interested enough to give him terrible advice. Time to psyop him into getting a rotpocket KEK but I'm just not as evil as they are. And I don't want to seem actually supportive and alienate any other
terf/gc person who overhears it! I'm playing very innocently unaware and uninterested about troon stuff around him. I really don't want him to think he can tell me more about his transition as if I'm interested, I'm sure he's already seething a bit I didn't squeal and go "omgg let's celebrate you starting HRT and becoming a WOMAN! You're sooo feminine!" like a good little ally should have done.
No. 2579045
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>>2578979Your comment reminds me of picrel
No. 2579053
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at the end of the day, i just can't wrap my mind around the existence of heterosexual tifs who try so hard to fuck gay men that want nothing to do with their pussies. i read a disturbing article that was very fetishtistic and homophobic to gay men, and the tif in the article interview was like "there's nothing wrong with being a gay man who loves cocks, but pussy can bring new forms of pleasure and gay men who have played and enjoyed with my pussy can still be gay". and at the end of the day, i don't get it: don't straight women have the largest dating pool in the entire world when comparing against other groups like bi men, gay men, lesbians (especially), hell even bi women can get rejected more on average than the typical straight woman. there's just so many straight men in the world for them to be with, who would actually delight themselves with their pussies… why throw everything away, including their own health and finances, to try to become a gay man's yaoi fantasy?
No. 2579079
>>2579069I wish straight women realized gay men were men.
Like sure, they don't want to rape you, but they are still misogynists at their core.
No. 2579158
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The irony is always lost on TRAs in that its never TERFs or transphobes that record troons in the bathroom, but rather the perverted TIMs themselves recording themselves getting sexual gratification from invading whats supposed to be a safe space for women. It would be funny if it weren't so frustrating to see these people turn a blind eye or willingly defend people who take advantage of a "marginalized identity" to absolve themselves of accountability
No. 2579160
File: 1750893110976.webm (6.6 MB, 480x270, This never happens (Bathrooms)…)
>>2579158samefag inb4 "this never happens! we just want to pee!" never fucking forget
No. 2579172
>>2579160Samefag as
>>2579167 . Kek these trannies can't stop telling on themselves. Disgusting subhuman filth of the earth, vile troons, seriously I feel like throwing up loll
No. 2579210
>>2579188she didn't, she told people to take photos of trans women
entering bathrooms so that you have a photographic time stamp / evidence and record if anything goes wrong inside and you can build up a database of repeat offenders. But they're projecting again.
No. 2579218
>>2579053It's a mix of many things:
>homophobiaGay men aren't really homosexual to them, they think all gay men can learn to like pussy and it's wrong/bigoted of them to pretend to not like it in the first place. Their magical pussy can satisfy gay men and still be gay, the gay men just need to fuck the
right pussy to like pussy (hers).
>misogyny (+ porn addiction)directed at themselves and refusing to see themselves as "the woman in a relationship" because that's the "demeaning" role to take (as they've learned from porn), and also directed at other women for daring to be in that demeaning role of being a woman (and then they literally go and do the most demeaning only-pleasureable-for-males sex acts to prove how gay they are like anal and sucking them off "as a man" that most straight women don't even do)
>biology denialismThey think a penis can be female, a pussy male. So her seeing her own pussy as male magically makes it so and thus it must be gay for her to get dicked down
>conqueror mentalityIf a gay man is into her, it means she really must be a man. So she must have a gay man to prove to everyone (mostly herself) that gay men really do want to fuck her.
>gay fetishismwe all know of fujos trooning out to live their yaoi fetish dreams
>the rare actual lesbianobviously doesn't fall into the hetero group, but a handful are women who only want other women - but all the lesbians they know are actually just male transbians who they're not into since they're male. But they do want the butch he/him tifs they know, so they call themselves gay men who are into men so they can be attracted to each other "in peace". So on the surface they'll pretend (to themselves too) to be into real gay men too, and that they just so randomly happened to end up with a fellow tif.
No. 2579237
>>2578632Anne Frank wasn't removed because it had sexual content, didn't you read the post? It was removed because it was a pre-2008 book. Obviously Anne Frank's diary didn't have sexual content, she was a little girl when she wrote it. Blanket removing more than half the books from libraries because they're old is horrifying. On the other hand no, I don't think it would be bad to remove books with explicit sexual content from school libraries in general, although curriculum books with sexual content and classics should stay regardless, like 1984 and Brave New World.
>>2578807Kek there's a fantasy element to it, and I also think they can't really picture themselves as actual men so they don't want to choose names actual men have like John, because it would make them too hyperaware of the fact they're trying to skinwalk and look like actual regular moids if they pick a name that moids they meet might share with them. They want to be something fantastical and in-between, even if they claim to think they're really a boy/man. And they need to pick a name that no man they meet will ever have so they don't have to compare themselves directly to moids. TIFism is usually just very extreme NLOGism, not really a desire to be actually moidish.
>>2578822They're canadian, nona. That's all the explanation necessary.
No. 2579274
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No. 2579277
>>2579274I love stupid gendie discourse like this.
>The amab nonbinary he/him is an aggressive predatory creep?>Hmmm! Wonder where u got that!Kekkkk, yes, it truly is a mystery.
No. 2579342
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https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=9015&context=etdCan anyone stomach getting through this? Again trying to "re-examine my biases" and "educate myself" by reading this essay (which had over maybe ~10k notes on Tumblr) that posits black women as a major aggressor of black trannies, but:
>Essay opens up with a statistic that says trans women die at higher rates than cis men do…without mentioning that this is due to HIV and AIDS>The sea of trans murders the author harps on about totals out to about 100, over the course of four years>He focuses on 2017 (had like 25 trans murders) and a few of the names he gives seem to be victims of gang violence/wrong place, wrong time>This fucking world salad straight from Twitter No. 2579419
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i've been watching a lot of skeptic/atheist youtube content lately to cope with the rapidly encroaching christian nationalism present within my state, and it pisses me off so badly that all these supposedly Rational Materialists seem to lose the ability to recognize and critique unfalsifiable claims with no basis in reality the moment they come out of a tranny's mouth. the concept of an internal/inherent "gender identity" (especially one that overrides the biological category of sex) has about as much evidence and justification as the fucking flying spaghetti monster and yet they just can't help themselves. they always run with the bogus inflated intersex rates to push some bullshit about how sex isn't binary and then forget the part that's actually relevant to trannies - the fact that humans can't change their sex. bananas. and so embarrassing.
No. 2579473
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>comparing detransitioning to polyamory of all things
>ackshually detransitioners weren't trans to begin with
>wait their experience is valid but it's also not valid
>insults other people's reading comprehension
KEK they truly are retarded
No. 2579475
File: 1750919797225.jpeg (111.12 KB, 1231x626, tif.jpeg)
>>2579473and ofc it's a he/they tif that looks like this. they truly are made in a factory
No. 2579545
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Man is when comfortable and baggy. Woman is hot pants and crop top. I guess I am always a man when I’m in the house or wear pants. #breakinggendernorms.
I don’t get how leftists even take this movement seriously. It’s the same old conservatism painted in a progressive way.
No. 2579603
>>2579419One woman I party with, a biologist, is one of the leading skeptics in my country, they even do yearly awards for pseudoscientist's most retarded ideas but for some reason she belives troons, gives them platform, hates JK and stuff like that. It's mental but I think it's because of her insecurity. She knows she's not atractive and probably feels like troons aren't attractive too and so she thinks they have a lot in common. And so if she thinks she has a lot in common with troons, she think all women do.
Really any proffesional scientist I ever met had just one specific thing they belived in in a reigious way even though they seemed very rational in everything else. It's bizzare, like some mental glitch that happens to scientists.
No. 2579611
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>>2579545guys can't even look good in pants like that
No. 2579947
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>>2578889samefag, I can't stop thinking about a line in particular this troon told me which was something like
>"hormones changes how you think, men and women think differently so it will be so interesting to have my thoughts change"And there were so many things I wanted to scream in his face. Like firstly, so you admit you're currently a man with man-thoughts? And you think hormones will second-puberty you into having woman-thoughts… so the only way for you to become a woman is to change your real natural thoughts. Because your real natural thoughts are man-thoughts. And that's not a clue that you're literally just a man?
Secondly how the fuck is a second puberty when it's just a medically induced a hormone disorder? Do you seriously think a man who has a hormone disorder is suddenly thinking "like a woman"? You think body builder women who take steroids (testosterone) are now literal men and think like men and forget what their dainty woman-thoughts are supposed to be like? You're just gonna get "brain fog" as you brain shuts down.
And again "puberty"? Nothing happens that is even close to the real single puberty people experience, it's just not how human development and aging works. And you think it's a "female puberty" happening to your male body? Sir do you have a fucking uterus, will you fucking bleed on your period? Becoming fertile is literally the main point of puberty and if anything you're making yourself infertile (which to be fair may be good because god forbid that you ever fucking breed). No, your body will just desperately fight the hormone disorder you induced because it's not natural to it because it's male. You won't even grow female breasts, you will get male gynecomastia which happens to like 35% of men naturally anyway, it's literally a normal male state for your male body to be in. In fact you could just eat more and get bigger male obesity breasts.
And lastly I'm 90% sure this guy once told me some form of dementia runs in his family. Congratulations, you activated your own trap card and summoned early on-set dementia for yourself. Your muscles will rot away and your brain will malfunction, and you think that means you're a woman? Get fucking real.
No. 2580071
>>2579960As a looksmaxx forum milk EXPERT, you have to factor in that like 90% of the posts are low quality filler garbage. I don't know why some xenforo forum admins do this, but they love those shitty glowing profile levels. IIRC you can upgrade your rank via number of posts, so a lot of the shit you see is inflammatory glowie bait that gets screencapped and posted all over plebbit. On more locked down forums that aren't as popular as .org it's an openly discussed topic, full threads of these retards trying to brainstorm the stupidest bait posts. Shit about women being slaves, rape fantasies, '12 year olds are prime maturity' etc. are mostly low quality bait, though some of it is laced with true beliefs that can't really be voiced on forums with that many eyes on them.
Isn't this British (sco'ish?) lady the same one who stopped showing her face due to moids being creepy? I watch her stuff as background filler, and her videos are pretty enjoyable, especially the ones referencing old internet stuff most normies forgot/don't know about. You kinda have to be surface level handmaiden-y as a female content creator unless you want to unleash the wrath of a thousand Liliths.
No. 2580075
>>2580002It's sweet of you to be so naive you believe fucking with your hormones doesn't automatically come with negative health effects. It doesn't depend on the person, it's just that most of it isn't visible to the naked eye. You can't see their brain fog, their weakened bones, how their cancer risk goes up, autoimmune diseases appearing or getting worse, the way their internal organs are damaged, their infertility… And remember when they say "I had no negative effects" they WANT some of those negative effects. They think their larynx growing to get a croaky "male" frog voice is a good thing. But they can no longer sing, nor scream for help, because their voice no longer physically allows it. And when their clit grows into what they pretend looks like a "micro penis" they ignore how painful it is, and the lasting infertility is fine in the moment because they're 25 and immature and think they'll never want kids. And the males, they think losing muscles is fine and makes them look smaller/like women and ignore the fact that it's their bodies breaking down and weakening, that the brain fog means they're "dumb and bad at math, like a real girl teehee".
No. 2580381
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whenever my online friends start to flirt with trans identities (always a male) i start to gender them the hardest, if they're not really trans why would it be transphobia? you're such a good balls-having male man boy oozing testosterone and xy chromosomes!
on the other hand i wish i had NORMAL online friends that weren't one touhou game away from trooning out. it's so isolating when you're the only one not poisoned by TRA ideology. i don't want to ruin years-long friendships over THAT.
No. 2580714
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i actually feel bad for this woman, shes so close to peaking. id try to peak her myself but id just get banned so it doesnt really matter.
No. 2580728
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trannies are so delusional
No. 2580784
>>2578015did anyone notice that the last commenters username is "prettiest baby boy"? kek
thats some shit an overbearing mother says to her son, not what an actual man calls himself. why are so many tifs obsessed with self-infantilization?
No. 2581049
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>>2578397>>2578711According to the book Fat Chance by a friend of Stephen Fry(Simon Gray). Gray tells an anecdote about the time one of their acquaintances, Rik Mayall was disgusted by Fry's paedophile apologism and refused to work with him.
No. 2581056
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>>2581049I can't stand his gross face, he already gave me bad vibes before reading about that incident. He also married a man 30 years younger than him.
No. 2581256
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>>2580714This woman is retarded and mentally ill. The way troons talk about puberty as some "medical event" that children should be able to revoke consent to is disgusting.
No. 2581376
>>2581256Lol that she thinks going on testosterone even earlier would have somehow made her not female or 'reversed' anything, these people are so delusional it's unreal. Like what would earlier HRT have actually accomplished? She would still have had to reverse or 'undo' almost all the same things and just would have started ruining her health younger. Even girls who went on blockers younger than 13 and then took T still had mastectomies done because they still had some breast growth anyway and everything else just would have been worse.
Also kek at whining about how her parents trying to raise her as her actual sex was some awful abuse she should be able to sue them for in one post and then, in the next, talking about how she should have started accepting being female earlier and how she needs to start doing it now at an older age. So which is it? Your parents clearly tried to wait it out and hoped you would accept being female but you decided to ruin your life and health for a delusion instead, now you're blaming them for not encouraging you to be even more delusional?
No. 2581381
>>2581256This was a hard read. This woman hates herself. She went through top surgery, hormones for years and still doesnt get that she cant change her sex. She can cut her hair short, grow a beard and she wont pass as a man because she isn't a man, and will never be one. It's insane to me how this is all presented loud and clear in front of them. Instead of realizing how society and other men treat women, she wants to hate her parents for not putting her on HRT and blockers as a child. Holyshit.
She mentions other trannies not calling her he/him. How much do you want to bet they are MTFs? kek
No. 2581591
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Apologies if this person has been posted already, but this is a tif who has gone from one extreme to another. In addition, magatards have been accusing her of being a biological male and refuse to understand how being on testosterone works, as well as retarded pro-troons pulling the "you were never trans" card. When you step back, a lot of this gender fight outside the stuff brought to the table by radfems and some gay males who feel like they dodged the troon bullet, it's two group of ignorant retards going to war with each other. I just wish people would stop being so adamant about trying to find a box for themselves and use their heads for once, but i know that will never happen.
No. 2581830
>>2581591People who fall for a cult are more likely to fall for yet another cult, that's a known fact. They're unstable people who want to be told what to think and easily give into group-think. If maga-tards keep bullying her she might finally end up getting tired of it and realize she should think for herself instead.
But on some level it makes sense, why wouldn't she absolutely hate the side that lied to her for years and led her to destroy and mutilate her body permanently? They quite literally ruined her life. Doing the absolute most to not be part of or mistaken of being on that side and making them stay away from her is also a type of coping and protecting herself. So again, it's likely she'll eventually mellow out start thinking for herself once she's healed more from the trans trauma.
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>>2581964i haven't had a social media account in over a decade. Not worth it.
No. 2582021
>>2582001It gets so
toxic. My last straw was a t4t TIM and TIF couple being all like "we're so gay for each other hihi ooh you big homo". I'm a lesbian. I'm so fed up with straight people using gay as a cool dude button. Meanwhile it's just so evident neither of them see their partner as their dreamed identity, the TIM thinks he's in lesbians whith his girlfriend and the TIF thinks she's gay with her boyfriend, it's so ridiculous. They got so mad too. Ugh. At least I'm free now.
No. 2582039
>>2581964I am so that the two discords i frequent for dress up games i like either has a straight up rule banning lgbt discussions (unless you in passing mention your have a bf/gf or whatever) or the members are normie women with jobs, are esl or have careers and are focused on other things. I literally cannot stand how there is an expectation to care so deeply about trans rights and that you want to hear about their nasty procedures that honestly make me want to gag hearing about it and apparently telling them to stop because you feel
triggered would make you a transphobe (real experience btw). They have zero compassion or consideration for anyone outside their stupid cult.
No. 2582211
>>2581995>theres no fucking way its less than 1% of the population I literally cant escape it online or offline kek Yeah like how that teacher raised an alarm because 90% of her class were identifying as trans and she got fired for pointing it out.
Supposedly about 1-2% of people use a wheelchair in my country, and I've known ONE wheelchair user in my entire life. Yet I see troons everywhere I go, and I know like 10 just in my own vicinity. And even funnier is that I know if I go into certain nerdy spaces, there will be troons there. And they all have the same exact political stances and thoughts. Every time. Unlike with wheelchair users who all have different personalities and can't be predicted.
No. 2582238
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Redditors not realizing that your average person doesn’t want males in women’s sports is kind of hilarious. The hug box and eco chamber is so crazy in here, you immediately get banned if you don’t post something along the lines of “trannies are valid!! This is genocide!”
No. 2582239
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>>2582238Thing is that now these organization can follow up and protect women’s sports. I believe that in the coming years trannyism will back down at least in sports.
No. 2582241
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>>2582238We obviously have the “this is going to negatively affect masculine women!1!1!1!” Kek.
No. 2582258
>>2582165I feel like the women who do this are scared to face the world as women. they're intimidated by feminists who speak frankly about male violence and its effects on the world. or maybe they just have some token moids they themselves like. they might take the easy route of blaming feminists for creating their own problems. they might say "it happened to her because she's a particular type of person, and I'm not that". They might think it's an easier time to appease the male, rather than fight head-on as a female. maybe they think feminists are just shrill whiny bitches.
but i also think it's because TIMs appropriate the aesthetics of the "man-hating radfem" in order to bully TIFs for trooning out instead of staying cute kawaii lil girls. they get to skinwalk as the exact type of chicks who reject them. it must be such a high, because they love doing it. then the moid doesn't feel like he's stuck to the moid role, now he's the quirky lesbian bullying those ugly transmen. now they're stuck in his old role. he has shed his old skin and placed it on someone else.
so in this situation, the only way for a TIF to fight back while still respecting this brave beautiful (incel) trans wahmen's identity is to say "men deserve respect, too!" "men have feelings too!" etc. The TIMs know this. They're men, after all, and they're probably intimately familiar with being laughed at by feminists. So they know the double-bind they're putting these women in. They know that either these TIFs are gonna sound like TERFs or MRAs, and either way they can be ostracized and isolated, all while ramping up the bullying. They know that if these TIFs go MRA, then they'll be alienating their cis feminist friends too. If they go
TERF, they're alienating their TIF friends. That's part of the plan.
So I think it's important to take into account that some of these TMRAs are reacting to TIM abuse, but they might ally themselves with cis moids to feel more secure in their gender, because then they feel less female, less
victim. I think TIMs can smell blood like sharks do, so they specifically attack these women's coping mechanism to watch them flail around for fun.
If a TIF tries to say she doesn't have male privilege, then the TIM will accuse her of leaning back on her privileged birth assignement & condescending to a transwoman, etc, etc. No matter if she's a cis woman or a trans man, the moid can claim she oppresses him. That's the sum of their theory. Plus some TIFs don't want to go through the trouble of trying to explain all the female hardships they've gone through to "prove" they don't have male privilege, so they might just say "fuck it, yeah I'm a moid, so what?" rather than pour their hearts out to unsympathetic ears that will twist the words whichever way they have to in order to make her out to be the villain anyways. So why not "own" being the "villain"?
except its the villain to a bunch of autists.
No. 2582273
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TRAs back at it again. They made this murales at Glastonbury about sending people that make living in the world difficult to mars. You have literal rapists, far rights and then you have JKR kekk. It’s always ridiculous when they put her among war criminal and abusers kek.
No. 2582274
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>>2582273She looks so based and hot though. I need her.
No. 2582286
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>>2582274They unintentionally made her look iconic honestly and fortunately some based women have improved it. Disregard the classless tranny with the permanent marker.
No. 2582350
>>2582258>they get to skinwalk as the exact type of chicks who reject them. it must be such a high, because they love doing it. then the moid doesn't feel like he's stuck to the moid role, now he's the quirky lesbian bullying those ugly transmen. now they're stuck in his old role. he has shed his old skin and placed it on someone else.Agreed.
I knew a man who crashed out when hearing about a woman in his friend group trooning, saying she was throwing away her female privilege (sex appeal, entirely. This guy was a giga gooner). He didn’t make am ends with her and apologize for his “regressive” behavior until he started trooning himself. Predictably, an agp with a bimbo vtuber avatar.
He was upset she was throwing away her goon potential until he realized he could just take it for himself. I doubt his discontent ended, but he was made less anxious when he found his own coping mechanism. He’s less frantic about goon objects (feminine women) escaping him when he has one to control in himself. He probably thinks she’s retarded for the same reasons still, but less panicked about it
I’d also guess it can become some sort of retribution fantasy, as you said. Where these men feel like they are correcting some unfair conspiracy. Where men (deservingly, he thinks) get to take the esteemed position of sex object, and those unfit women have the honor stripped from them. They probably see it as some sort of retribution. I mean, according to their incel logic, it is.
No. 2582356
>>2582322I don’t know if intimidated is the right word. I think pickmes, including tifs, are put off by feminists for implying men are bad. They want to pretend men aren’t so bad.
It’s not like they are denying it maliciously, they aren’t active moid agents who want to perpetuate abuse.
I think the reason is that it’s extremely painful to accept. Even Dworkin talks about this. It’s terrifying, isolating, and heart breaking to accept half the population are as awful as they keep proving themselves to be. They prefer to pretend like it isn’t true, by choosing to interpret males and their behavior in the most charitable way they can muster.
It’s like how children of an
abusive parent often cope. Their dad can beat the shit out of them and treat them like dirt, but if they still see “the good” in him, excuse his actions, continue to “love” him, then it’s not so bad. What can be ignored/denied is ignored/denied, what can’t becomes flaw that could potentially be fixed. They refuse to accept their parent is fundamentally bad. It would be too painful for a child who actually want to love their father to accept he is irredeemable.
Men do this too, usually more cynically. Pickmes hate feminists for trying to make them acknowledge the reality of male dysfunction because it’s painful.
Men hate feminists (and all women who speak about their abuse at the hands of men)not because it’s painful for them to accept male cruelty (they already believe it, they’re men). They just hate their dirty laundry being aired, because it could make their potential
victims more savvy and avoidant.
A child will defend and deny the abuse from their father to cling to love and hope. The
abusive father will defend and deny his abuse to continue abusing, including avoiding facing external consequences.
No. 2582471
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>>2582286How do trannies feel knowing they would be rallying alongside Christian fundamentalists in the 90s?
No. 2582591
>>2582074>>Spiking someone's drink with HRT, teehee!Reminds me of the old days where girls online would say things like "I'm gonna show you Orange is the New Black so you can turn lesbian!!"
It's a surprise nobody has held Tumblr responsible for all this shit.
No. 2582831
>>2582828Samefag but it's the classic walking alone at night thing. Men are worried about being mugged and maybe injured. Women are scared of being rapped, kidnapped, in addition to being mugged.
>>2582829You are one person. All of reality and human history tell a different story.
No. 2582898
>>2582895It is true. This is such a tiresome discussion. Women aren't weaker than men because women all starve themselves or some other
victim blaming bullshit, it's biological.
No. 2582905
>>2582898Bruuutal
Ai is the superior model for being monosex
No. 2582917
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>>2582898I agree, I'm saying that there are edge cases where biology doesn't quite apply. Not all women are waifs. The average man has male strength but he's not the hulk. Yes, I think a female wrestler could take down the average guy without a lot of trouble.
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Saw this ad on my city's subreddit (not logged in, I only go on there to check for posts about accidents and the like), no words.
No. 2582950
>>2582940There is nothing more retarded than tirfs kek
>women are oppressed due to the patriarchy that’s why, this special man, who truly has the essence of a woman, should be the priority of feminism.>gender roles are a tool to oppress women but guess what they are affirming to our trans sisters so we should achsually be intersectional!!!That’s how they sound to me. They solely speak about trannies because they have to contort every radical notion to include males with dick , balls, male audacity and male entitlement.
No. 2582971
>>2582940>>2582950Some tirfs are crypto or slowly peaking but the rest are just plain retarded or want validation points for based takes on how ebil moids are but don't want to offend the "dolls". Nobody is gonna give you a gold star for being a
TERF, misogynists and moids already hate radfeminism for everything it stands for.
No. 2583056
>>2582940That's why the honorary
terf blog exists, to reblog gendies accidentally posting radical feminist commentary kek.
Also why TRAs have to shamelessly lie about what radfems believe in order to make them the villains. Like yeah it's totally radical feminists who think women shouldn't be allowed to have short hair and need to wear makeup. Sounds legit.
No. 2583119
>>2583061I mean a military trained 5’7 woman could take a normal couch potato scrote. Just like your average runner would outrun a normal scrote. I don’t get why some of you act like women are sooooooo physically weaker than men. On average it’s true that a scrote will be stronger , but if you compare women and men in different ranges they do have a chance.
But if you ask me who wins between a military woman and a military man I would unfortunately have to say the man.