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19 year old "beauty guru" with subpar make-up skills. Has around 1 million (fake) followers on Instagram (fluctuates with when they can buy new bots), 11k (fake) followers on Twitter and 10k (fake) subscribers on youtube.
Has around a 1% engagement on instagram, but those likes and comments appear to be from bots, fake accounts, and engagement pods. Never gets any RTs or likes on twitter aside from her mom. Doesn’t get much more than 1000 views on her Youtube videos. Some brands, such as Colorpop and Laura Mercier have, however, fallen for her snafu and send her PR. Recent drama channels exposing her have garnered more attention as of late, but the views die off quickly and return to bot numbers soon after the hype dies down.
GENERAL MILK>Her mom Laur creates all her fan accounts on IG. Many of them pretends to be grossly exaggerated versions of minorities.>Claims she has her own beauty brand coming out in 2020 (@lilleejeancosmetics) UPDATE 7/2020: This turned out to be just a new blog launch called @lilleejeanbeauty as her associated IG account was renamed as such>Went to the Bite Beauty Lip Lab and made some customs Lipsticks (as anyone can do) for herself, claimed they were a collab and that Bite would release them for purchase. Sperged out on IG and cancelled them when they told her to stop claiming it was an official collaboration (https://www.instagram.com/tv/BwaDTX1gyDc/?igshid=3t86d935d62o)>Had a billboard of herself in Times Square for Covergirl, pretends she did an actual campaign with them, when in reality it was a campaign where anyone could upload their picture to their homepage and then get their picture on the billboard. >Her batshit insane mother uploaded an obviously shooped picture to her IG (@lrtrueman) claiming Lillee went to the MET ball. It wasn’t until after the reddit call-out they began to claim it was fan-art.>Her mother also posted an obviously shooped “Teen Vouge” cover with Lillee on the front page.>Somebody on r/beautyguruchatter made a thread about Lillee Jean. Her and her mom sperged out, made multiple accounts and spammed threads. >Most likely buys used palettes for her videos. Has new videos for sets that came out weeks ago. Lillee and Laur read here everyday while denying they do so.
MAIN ACCOUNTS AS OF 2020 (updated December 2020)
(goes between private and public) https://www.twitter.com/JeaniezInc
!Currently Suspended 30/12/20!https://twitter.com/iamlaur67
(goes between private and public) https://www.instagram.com/jeaniezmanagement
Other relevant links can be found here >>767646
>An extended summary of Lillee's Q&A video >>777943>Whatsyourvibez is changed over to lilleejeanbeauty >>778093 which also becomes the name of her new website >>782801 One of her other sock accounts is also renamed to lilleejeandebunked_ >>778430 which later moves to tumblr at lilleejeantruth.tumblr.com >>780643>Tiredlady believes Brenda's killer is paying Dees to stalk LJ >>778145 A new sock by Laur also seems to believe this >>778857 and tells people to kys while at it >>778900 Proof the sock is Laur >>779801 Laur seems to be the source of this lie >>781692 and goes full batshit claiming Diane is her sister's murderer >>782355 and >>782362 and >>782377 Much later she denies this ever happened >>784620>Laur threatens Lunart with legal action after IG takes down the art post on Lillee's page >>778257 She also contacts the teen's mother >>778339>Lillee's organic growth continues as she gains 500% more subs, and only 4% more views on Youtube >>778338>A poster on reddit claims to have gone to middle school with Lillee >>778529 They claim Lillee said she had a 17 year old boyfriend and wore a sexualized halloween costume to school >>778565 Dees interviews the poster on stream >>779428>A farmer finds old comments sent to a currently empty account by LJ/Laur calling them Pheepy >>778608 The few comments not deleted sound extremely ESL >>778610 before the replies change to a @princephillipe account >>778611>More racist comments by LJ's sock fans >>778775 and >>778776 and >>780491>Lillee claims Youtube vets subs by removing them and then putting them back later, hence her totally normal fluctuating sub count >>778844 She doubles down on this when she totally organically reaches 10k subs >>779696>LJ wants you to sign BLM petitions and wear a mask >>779326 People calling her out for her racist comments get diatribes in reply >>779335 She also fears supporting Black brands right now can be construed as racist >>779382 Tiredlady spams the comments >>779581>LJ follows a comment's advice and asked her million real Jeaniez to send her them following one of her tutorials or doing one of her looks for a feature in her video >>779890 One user takes her upon the challenge, complete with copious fallout >>780241>LJ's very savvy brand manager found an account of a Portugese woman running for congress and thinks she's trying to kill him for having a non-English name >>780567>Laur claims they will get really exciting news July 1!!! >>780754 (Nothing ever comes of this)>Dees says her attorney is working to get Laur and LJ's youtube accounts terminated for false copystrike flags >>781031 She clarifies she is not suing Laur or issuing a restraining order >>781834>Instead of actually donating new items, LJ uses 2 year old photos of her donating clothes and encourages Jeaniez to do so as well >>781173>Many women in LJ's family have The Sight, including LJ herself >>781502 She wants to do more videos honing in on spirits, ghosts, demons, and more >>781632 Also Diane cursed Laur to stub her toe >>782054>People find reviews for Laur's propmaster claims which are what you'd expect >>781829>As Laur continues to spam the LJ hashtags, Twitter finally takes action and temporarily restricts her management account >>781995>Lillee does another IG live, highlights here >>782069>Lillee tries to dye her hair and manages to turn it dark red, then a brassy green after apparently not toning it correctly >>782204 and >>782954 and >>783072>After accusing Dees of being her sister's murderer for a month, Laur begs Diane to leave her and LJ alone >>782533 and even pins such a request >>782588 then proceeds to spam her feed with instances of Dees calling them out for various things. Later she says she will continue to respond to Diane as long as Diane talks about her daughter >>784619>Tiredlady seems to give up and says she will make a video with everything she knows before shutting down her Twitter account >>782868 She follows through with the deletion, at least >>783003>Laur begs Diane for an interview on her channel >>784127 to "give her views" >>784170>When the clip of Lillee telling Black people to shut the fuck up about slavery begins circulating again, LJ directs people to watch the full clip for context >>784138 possibly unaware that it makes her look even worse >>784204>Lillee survived a whole year of being a victim and a lifetime of having tight pelvic walls >>784381>Laur goes off on Tatiana for calling in a lawyer and defames the firm >>784392 Apparently the lawyer reaches out to Laur to tell her to stop tweeting about Tatiana, which she tells everyone by tweeting about Tatiana >>784521 Laur says she will apologize to anyone who actually comes to her with concerns, of which countless people have >>784542
#12 >Laur is harassing a talented cosplayer and trying to have her store closed on Etsy >> 793210>Laur is harassing Tatiana's lawyer again >>793805 >Lillee is shaming another brand who dropped her: therabox >>787795 and "pillow bra" >>792063 >Lillee still looks like a 50 old hag with baby teeth >>793882
>Drama went dry on #13 and #14, however Lillee and Laur managed to be as obnoxious as usual. They moved again, probably freaking out from Tatiana's lawsuit, but also due to eviction >>797016 . LJ spend 500$ to be allowed to put her ugly pictures on Malvie magazine >>800166 and bragged about a silly Yahoo post >>795527 also paid: 150$.>Lillee triggered all the "french anons of the universe" >>797778 with nonsense about her fake french roots and a very painfully ugly "french look" video >>798128 and managed to lose one real fan >>798297 while playing the victim again.>Just before the locking of the #13 thread, LJ went on an epic crazy rage insulting everyone/wishing everyone's death by fire, decapitation or covid because some anons edited >>802011 her everipedia page (a website literally no one hear about before this event), video >>802042
In #14, Still upset and bitter about the everipedia edit and >>802296
. Lillee made a new video >>802175
where she appears more crazy and delusional than ever (stating everyone is jealous of her in the middle of incomprehensible ramblings).
>Following the US election, Laur bragged about using another ID >>803336 because anons pointed out neither Laur, nor LJ nor Earl were found in the voter records in NYC >>803287 >Lillee was desperately trying to hidde she didn't vote while ordering others to do so >>803282
Leading FakeIDTinfoilS-Anons to come up with very interesting theories:
-LJ and Laur had allegedly left NYC and live now in Florida >>803917
Making sense as Laur's parents are from Florida >>797079
-They are also related to a mysterious Beckles Madina always showing on public records >>803747
who could be an alt for Eearl Trueman but living in Maryland and Florida >>803755
with the same path and moving way too much for honest people (see eviction-anons tinfoils).
-Laur might be a murderer >>804185
which would be why they might have left NYC. No one would be surprised if found true.
Lillee has mispellings on her name >>809155
but this is also the same name as Wolf's mother and Laur for some reasons thought it would be a great awesome choice >>809160
-Hence Laur has a crush on Wolf her alleged sister's murderer >>809178
starting 25 years ago, validated by several Anons.
>The most hilarious of the previous #14 is 1/the dump of Lillee in the Guardian scammy project >>807355 2/the fact that Laur got kicked by CyberDouche himself >>802691 and >>802722 for of course not paying the fees and is now harassing him >>806121 >>804662 because why not?>Laur denied but was unable to show receipts >>802757 Lillee made an official statement about this >>802778 and made a pathetic live about "business strategy" aka whining about everything >>805035 and responds to 8 months old video for attention >>805669 >Laur and Lillee's accounts were suspended again >>803049 >>809407. Laur asked Archluminous to pay for her legal fees >>809048 >>809371 >From mid/end of december of this disastrous year, Lillee is spamming Tiktok with utmost Wtf videos >>806975 >>807393 >>807787 >>809681 >>809683 >Rachel, Laur's fake account "won" Lillee's giveaway >>809996 because it was products for old ladies and the fake bots don't need it anyway.>Lillee has been dropped by RewardStyle >>808815 >>808778 and prentends she is the one stopping the collab because she wants to be free. Green hair >>807578 >>805542>Lillee buys her own ugly merch >>803340 >>805446 >>807181 >>803346 >>803369>Massive bans for Laur >>811510
Additional info: OP image from previous thread and contribution of Glorious-Art-Anons >>810423
>>810432 Quote from Lillee herself >>804170
Will the drama last forever or go down in flames?
Brace yourself for 2021.
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She did a disturbing recap on Tiktok with baby pics of her.
I don't know how to put video here.
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She seriously thought this was ok to put up on TikTok. The shirt is see through and uh…
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She included this saggy ass look in her latest TikTok
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>>me on my period face
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posted by diane on twitter
why isn’t twitter suspending all their accounts?
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More proof it's lillee's handwriting
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Forgot the picture and the website is being wonky for me, sorry!
Laur's unfortunate potato dumpling genes are really bearing down on Lillee quickly, and she's too lost in the attic princess fantasy to find an aesthetic that works for her actual body type. I can hear the seams on that blue dress screaming from here.
She really did peak in middle school, poor baby.
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Seems like the trademark idea was brought up by a sock account months ago but they are only now latching onto it
It has already been said but Philippe isn't written with 2L. I know some people are pretty liberal with name spelling but in France no one would accept this spelling especially for a very common name.
The keks when they can't even bother to do the most basic spellcheck for Philippe the great king.>>811878
Flaps are ALWAYS closed. To the point I wonder if by day they live like this too.
Is it Laur claiming they have to hide from stalkers?
Because it looks they are squatting some places and they don't have authorization to be there.
It's really weird and unhealthy. What's going on in their house?
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She finds a way to bring up Marie Antoinette once a month. It's the only history she knows.
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This picture is just fuel to the tinfoil that Lillee is old. I don't know, there's just no way this picture is from the 2000s.
I think she is 'defending' Marie Antoinette because people are equating the politician eating beef to Antionette ignoring the poor and living in luxury while whining let them eat cake.
I think Lillee sees Marie Antionette as her role model at this point kek
Wow Laur didn't age well at all! She looked so normal back then.
Lillee on other hand looks possessed by a drunk demon.
I agree the pic seems taken circa 1985, definitively not 2001.>>811890
I think it's super interesting Anon, I would like to know more. Don't worry about the no1care message system. Can you do an analysis of their handwriting?
Alrighty, well it's not that interesting since it was forever ago and I only attended a few seminars with an expert. Most techniques are for forgery and comparative. You usually use exhaustive examples for comparison. If I truly wanted to see if Laur wrote this I'd need a lot more examples of her handwriting so this is simple educated guesses.
It's always important to look at the piece in parts like you would a well written paragraph. Your most careful efforts to change your handwriting will be at the beginning and end. The middle is where you get a bit lazy and slip up. "Your hormones, your laughter…" is distinctly different from the end and and beginning. It looks like someone who extensively writes in cursive and is distinctly different than the beginning, then starts gradually going back to the style it was in the beginning. It looks like someone who is comfortable with cursive trying to write in print with small habits of cursive. Everyone does this, but for a drastic change and reversion is indicative of someone trying to change style. The "of" is also a different type of writing compared to all the other f's. Because this is so lazy there's no point in looking at the minutia because no one's exact type of writing is being copied.
As I said, it's not worthwhile because we all know LJ or Laur wrote this but the heavy cursive makes me think it's Laur. Boomers wrote exclusively in cursive for most of their lives, especially women. Handwriting forensics is mosty junk science because everyone has odd styles of writing and I don't even think they were trying to disguise shit. Just trying to write it clearer and fucked it up in the middle. I mean this was the time when they were still insisting LJ had a collection with bite beauty?
LMAO, handwriting anon is interesting but she downright outed herself with her sloppy spelling
Phillip = english spelling
Philippe = french spelling
and this supposed boyfriend writes his own name "Phillippe"… which would be pronounced feeyeep…
who would have known, guess she has no bf
So if philippe does exist, he's as retarded as she is
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link? summary? c'mon anons not everyone use instagram
Short ass summary:
LJ talks about overcoming bullies blah blah, same old.
She starts taking people to chat with- most are guys from India most likely just want to practice their English, LJ doesn’t grasp that they are ESL and is confused. Once they start to respond she says goodbye.
She told another person to stop asking about pedo bf.
She got that one model lady she did a stream with to c9me on.
Had a 9 year child come on to say hi and bye.
Really only the blatant racism against
foreigners is worth noting so 40 min in.
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They tried taking down another video but Youtube wasn’t having it. This is from Daniel Pizarro
I watched the video and the video does include moments where the speaker is talking without LJ's work being shown (not even a picture of her flabby face).
The "entire video" part shows what a lazy fuck she is. And she still doesn't understand fair use and copywrite. I guess this is what happens when you don't develop critical thinking skills at school or home. I'm 99% this is fetal alcohol syndrome affecting her cognitive skills.
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-Lillee adds a bunch of random men. Seems confused about it being daylight in India & already New Year’s Day.
-Lillee’s visibly irritated most of the livestream because none of her engagement pod friends are joining, only random Indian men.
-She repeatedly calls her pod friends bitches. She may have been using it as term of endearment but it comes off catty.
-picks up stuff with her feet and shows her feet.
-wearing the infamous black & red pj pants
-Her and Laur talk shit about some guy who won’t join because he’s in an Uber.
-After midnight, Lillee unzips her shirt. Fake happy cries. Adjusts her boobs on camera before adding people.
-Laur asks Lillee if she remembers a bomb threat at school. At first Lillee doesn’t remember anything but then tells a vague story. In the chat, Laur says “no the time I ran in after you”. (Paraphrasing but it’s a really weird exchange)
-She adds a group of Indian men who are loudly laughing at her and then asks Laur if they were masturbating together in a circle.
This was really hard to get through. Her energy is chaotic and unsettling.
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From her twitter.
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She needs to skip the knee high/OTK boots, they compact her small dumpy frame even more than it already looks.
I’ve thought this every time I see her wearing long boots. She needs something shorter and with more of a heel to elongate her stumps. Long boots isn’t doing it.
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videos been posted.
shes starts tapping away on her ipad then when she looks back up her viewers have jumped from 50 to 600, then later on to 1000
big fucking yikes, lillee.
why lillee is so horny on all her lives? so weird also lol >>812376
i notice this too this dumb bitch.
She is young why she doesn't have a hobby idk like gaming,watching streamers,listen to kpop somewhere where she can be in a fandom SOMETHING LILLEE DO SOMETHING.
Some anons were wondering if Laur was buying the fake engagement without LJ knowing about this.
That's proof she is 100% aware about the fake followers and just being a huge hypocrite about this.
This and the fact nobody sign her middle school year book and Laur had to pretend she was LJ's classmates, fake fans, fake boyfriend, fake gay BFF…
Gosh that level of sad!
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What’s going on here?
Laur should be 34 in that picture but she looks way younger.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a Natalia Grace Barnett alike case (the 33 years old mentally ill dwarf who pretended to be a kid). With Laur being fully involved in the scam.
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This poor dress
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YouTube’s vetting Lillee’s subs again.
Shes trying to do instagram baddie slim thicc angles but it doesnt work cause she has the aesthetic and taste of an 11 year old girl who shops primarily at justice and old navy.
I honestly dont even think her body is that bad, but her content, personality and aesthetic is so immature and childlike that it just feels wrong when she tries to pose sexy lol.
I have a theory that it's all to "stick it to the haters". I know she did the faking long before she got caught, so I agree with >>812647
that it was originally
a facade for companies. But now, with all the videos and articles about her that are completely negative and any brand that takes 5 minutes to research her will avoid her, she's just doing this to see if she'll break through and "fake it till she makes it" just to try and show everyone how wrong we are.
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Lillee seems to have lurked here enough to actually pay attention to fallout
Her newest video isn't very milky though, just very bland and the same childish voice
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Found this comment on Daniel’s video. Brands know their shit is fake.
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Is she pretending to read Russian now?
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Why is Lillee liking photos of people not wearing masks or social distancing in a country that’s ravaged by covid?
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called this 4 days ago kek
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New Pheepy is a vaguely Eastern European chad who wants Lilee to be his wife instead of a pussy French Diplomat
i mean, her and laur are already larping that Lilee is a "blue-eyed blond beauty" so why not just follow that to the logical conclusion
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The website places her as #5 and says "Lillee Jean @lilleejean is an actor who has jumped full speed into the world of social media with her passion for beauty and skincare."
Actor is new and here's her bio on a site literally anyone can make an account on. https://castingt.com/talent/lilleejeantrueman
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Is this photoshopped? found on the castingt site, the lighting looks so off.
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I'm almost certain it's shopped. That event happened at night and the spacing between words seems to be off. But idk…
She probably stretched and lightened this picture. Whilst putting her body over Ashley Graham's.
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the resemblance is uncanny
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I'll take your word for it.
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This has been commented before. She was at some Revlon public event.
Then LJ harassed Revlon for free products.
Note Laur-Elyse was working with Revlon but we all know LJ has no shame.
LJ has been obnoxious to the point they sent a C&D to her and probably kicked her out at the event. She didn't handle it very well and called the office manager.
Here's a summary of how awesome it must have been. I so wish they would have recorded this.
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The uber thing also had something to do with a coupon code/voucher Laur had not working. That was back when Laur would hashtag twitterarmy and NYCArmy trying to get people to attack on her behalf. A year and a half later, Laur's still trying to get free shit and other people to gang up to get her way. For someone who likes to play victim to mob mentality, she was doing it way before anyone gave a shit about Lillee Jean.
I was rewatching the Drunk Elephant vlog, and Lillee literally brought dolls to the hotel with her for an overnight (maybe 2 nights) trip that is across the bridge from her hovel. She refers to the Ken doll as her boyfriend. She also "accidently" almost flashes the camera while spinning in a robe in the bathroom, does the Marilyn Monroe "oppsie" pose, and puts it in anyways.
Lillee Jean is a 19 coming up on 20 year old woman, but the way she acts so immature makes her seem like she's 14 or 15 and it makes her attempts at sex appeal feel so dirty and wrong. She comes off a 13 year old that just started humping her pillow and thinks a hickey is a badge of honor.
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Found this comment on a YouTube video and honestly never thought of it this way until now
Agree completely. She goes off about how she has a good relationship with her mom and she feels sorry for us because apparently we don't. My mom is my absolute best friend, and I act nowhere
near as weird with my mom as she does. They act downright fucking creepy.
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Laur was really going off yesterday
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You can park a car between these tits
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Nok has a "Feed The Trolls" series and he published one yesterday for Laur, Lillee, and Earl. I'm sure Laur is having an absolute meltdown and acting like he's saying he wants to kill and eat them, even as the meal he prepared probably cost more than their weekly wood budget.
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It is significantly better than her artwork from 2 years ago. It's completely on par with what one would expect from a middleschool art student. Which, with Lillee Jean, is as much as you can expect for her to achieve in any aspect of her life.
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I noticed on her most recent IG photo numerous replies from Lillee on one comment. I did what any sane person would do and counted how many comments were left by Lillee, not her sock accounts, just Lillee. Out of 2600 comments, 700 are Lillee.
Jfc. I spend a lot
of time on my computer and social media, like a fuck ton
, and that would make me want to die at how tedious that looks. I get so lazy that after about an hour of posting something, I stop responding to people lmfao. I guess maybe if it was my "job" it would be different, but I don't want to call this a job for her either, it's just a sad waste of time.
Laur and Lillee don't see the engagement pods as a scam. Laur, in one of her rants, said theat being in an engagement pod is a "privilege". I've noticed a reoccurring trend with the dynamic duo. If someone they "trust"(aka someone is nice to them and tells them that the trolls are mean and lillee is deserving of praise) tells them something is beneficial to Lillee's career, they believe it and follow it whole heartedly. The same thing happened with the everpedia page. Lillee has said multiple times an everpedia page "eventually leads to a Wikipedia page". Rossow, bitcoin enthusiast that he is, convinced them to get her a page and that it was basically the same thing. Even as everyone else pointed and laughed that she'd been scammed. I think that was a large catalyst for the fallout with Rossow.
They are desperate, and anyone who "hears" them can manipulate them.
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>>more girth below
usually i am able to decipher truemanese but i am truly baffled with "far more girth below."
someone must have said it in a movie. unless lillee does have a penis kek
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Ummmm that 1.7mil in one day doesn't look suspicious at all…
AMAZING. BRILLIANT. I guess we know how Laur, Lillee, and Diamond Earl spent their stimulus money. What a fucking waste.
How is she going to explain more than doubling her already-dubious follower count overnight without having gone viral on any platform? Her most recent post to IG still has the same number of (fake) likes and comments as all the previous ones, so 1.7MM people followed her without engaging with any of her posts?
Alright anons, place your bets, what do you think she'll blame this on?
The Indian article like >>813633
A glitch in the system?
She organically earned these somehow?
Ignores it completely?
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all her new followers look like this
Anon, 100% of the Trueman incomes come from revolving credits & scams. They just had to open another subprime loan in a fishy bank not so smart with background check.
They've been doing this for years, this and the Antique business-scam. To the point I suspect Earl spinnal's injury to be insurance fraud.
And once they're close to the termination date and repayement, they go bankrupt et voilà!>>813725
Keks at their laziness: same profile pictures every 4 account.
I think they're probably all disabled in an informal, undiagnosed way, in that they are all absolutely batshit and clearly couldn't work to earn their keep in any kind of normal setting. LJ would cry and get her mom to help her quit on her first day, and Laur would attempt to steal the till and blame it on an imaginary burglar.
There's definitely what seems to be some kind of weird inherited dysfunction on both sides of LJ's family. LJ is completely like certain types of people who can only be born out of a couple of generations of fuck-uperry.
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Exaclty, they have the same pattern for years with moving and budgeting.>>813758
It's all good Anon. I don't have hard evidence.
I just looked at their bankruptcy files that is public. I have tried to make it more readable:
Green: Governement/Justice dept etc
Blue: Attorney or legal
David J. Doyaga was Laur's attorney. He has a new website.
Others are legal dept from the banks.
Red: Banks Laur and Earl owe money to.
As you can see, they didn't borrowed from just one bank. All banks listed seem shady and some don't exist anymore.
Examples: Accion bank for those who did not meet requirements for traditional financing (such as bank loans).
JH Capital Group offers end-to-end solutions to customers at every stage of the distressed credit cycle, from default to rehabilitation. (don't exist anymore)
Side note: I'm nt sure if 100% their debts we cancelled or frozen.
Their credit history would make them unable to borrow money unless
it's all on Lillee's name.
(or Beckles Medina keks still not done with that tinfoil)
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Is she unaware that throughout all of history people have behaved like this or..
This isn't a monolith.
That’s a pretty normal reaction to what happened today. America is over 200 years old, and something like that has never happened here.
And I am sure it’s unsettling when it happens anywhere. Most of us aren’t going, “Oh well. This happened in France 100 years ago. I guess that’s just how humans roll.”
if lilz can't deal with haters now, wait until she has millions of reality tv fans throwing her shade on the weekly
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Forgive me if I don't really understand how Social Blade works, but they removed 1-05 (Jan 5th), and Jan 6th still has a suspiciously high number of 9k new followers. Not sure if that's a linger from the 1.7mil or if she bought more today in a smaller number to make it seem more authentic
Anyone here into banking can confirm it's possible to get several loans before 21 in US?
I know about the tinfoils that Laur lied about Lillee's age for the credit card, that's why she showed 40 on public records, BUT how comes banks didn't ask for ID/Age confirmation through any valid
ID document? Is there any credit history check for borrowers below 21, are they really that incompetent?
Did they got her a student loan instead? That would be top keks ironic.
I don't know about banking but you only have to be 18 to get a payday loan in Florida. I say Florida because it's illegal in New York and there were a bunch of records for the Truemans in Florida. This would not show up on their credit, only a collections agency working on behalf of the lender would.
In Florida you can only have 1 installment loan up to $1000 at a time, its kept track in a database, however I have no idea how accurate the database is (whether it would pick up alt spellings like Trueman vs Truman or Lillee vs Lillee Jean) so I don't know if it would be easy to manipulate. This database is also fairly new within the past couple years. In any case there are at least 4 possible loans up to $1000 each if you include Beckles Medina. You also don't have to be a resident in Florida, you only have to "think about" moving there, and some places only require a paystub which is painfully easy to fake.
On top of that it is against the law for payday lenders to pursue legal action on those who don't pay in Florida. I do not think it would be difficult for the Truemans to walk away with at least $4000. And that's only through legitimate lenders and only in Florida!
My tinfoil is a bunch of shady lenders and lots and lots of fraud.
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Her arms too fat for it to fit properly kek
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Her hair is 100% dry in thos btw, not wet or damp
LOL them roots, gurl.
Also, could just be the cut of her shirt and how it is hanging (is it Earl's?) but Little Miss Petite is looking very broad, very STRONK
She doesn't look like Gal Galdot, she's wearing the costume shirt from the Audrey Hepburn sleep shirt from Breakfast at Tiffany's, she's wearing a wig Annnd those cuffs are cheap and made for a child…but honestly? She looks pretty. This color suits her so well, and the darker brows do as well. Lillee will never rate as rare beauty, but rarely, she can be beautiful every once in a while in a moment. The full shot of any of these is a disaster, but the head shot is fine.>>814239
She needs to embrace the "dark side", she looks SO much better with a darker color and not the mold covered brass she's been trying to pass as golden blonde.
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posting some of her tiktok cringe
"i might pull up flexing on these niggas like aerobics" kek
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those old navy jeans are screaming for help
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>lillee jean is an actor
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last one, this clip from one of here tiktoks where it lands on lillee's fried white trash red hair disaster right as meg says "ratchet" made me laugh
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spot the difference
What in the hell is it about the way her lipstick is applied that is so off-putting?
Is it the sides of her mouth have such a thick layer of lipstick? I know her gaping maw is horrifying in its own right, but what the hell is going on
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Another "dancing" video in her pjs and looking completely stupid. The lack of social awareness is staggering.
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Does anyone know more about what happened at the Revlon event? Additionally, what went down at Drunk Elephant.
LJ lost a lot of bots today on Insta.
I had the same idea tbh. One of the reasons I keep checking this thread is because I’m hoping LJ will finally show some sign of waking up and realize Laur doesn’t have her best interests at heart.
I think the main part that’s different about Lillee’s case is she’s pretty much had no one in her life except her boomer parents for several years. It doesn’t seem like Lillee had any relationship with her grandparents or extended family, and combined with homeschooling, that’s super isolating. I also think she has some kind of mild disability (or just a very low IQ) that makes her so impressionable. She obviously believes and repeats anything Laur says.
I think it's possible she was genuinely bullied in middle school, I can easily believe kids would give her a hard time just for her teeth. In those old videos she seems like a normal but insecure teen, her mom pulling her out of school may have eased her anxiety but was the worst option for her development. She's just badly stunted with a terrible mother.
Maybe old but I just noticed she's deleted all her old blonde videos.
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It looks like she deleted them on Dec 26.
I had a mother who was narcistic and bipolar. When you are young, you think the world of your mother, you won't doubt her. The world is wrong and your mother is right. I am well aware of lying and gaslighting mechanics, even more aware of the impact this has on a kid. I have talked with a psychiatrist for three quarters of a year because I feared I was fucked up like my mother and treated other people like she did.
This Laur persona saw her antique griefing business fail and latched on to her daughter's hobby. Perhaps Lillee is intellectually hampered by this Williams Syndrome condition and it will never dawn on her what is going on. Nonetheless there's an oncoming train and when it hits, it won't be pretty. I can only pity her.(blogging)
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Lillee went to events in 2019: Drunk Elephant, Revlon, Covergirl, Runaway Rogue, Wander Beauty (plant dance).
She also had pictures in Sarabeth in NYC (image) and in front of a Sephora.
We know they are still wasting money on fake articles/bots, so it's not a money issue.
It' strange they stopped to go anywhere. I first though Laur's paranoia was preventing her to leave the house, but Laur loves the attention too.
Could it be because of the Uber ban, they can't go anywhere on their own now.>>814493
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Bella is dead/dying so naturally Lillee’s in her ig stories with her baps out
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Maybe Laur briefly worked as a vet in the 90s
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So the cat is literally going to starve or die from dehydration because Lillee and her mother are too selfish to have her put down? Yes, it sucks and it is hard, but allowing an animal to suffer because you're a selfish twat is bullshit. Lillee's probably just worried it will interfere with how many bots she can buy this week.
Feline tumors are classified by grades not stages. It requires very expensive biopsies and X-rays. As far as I know tumors are only graded 1-3. There’s no such thing as stage 4 cat cancer.
The video on Lillee’s Instagram is horrible. You can only see the bottom of the cat’s face but it looks like she can’t even close her mouth fully. It also sounds as if she’s in respiratory distress.
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She’s just milking it isn’t she
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Do vets make you wait for an appointment to euthanize a pet who’s in pain?
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Trying to look sad while using a filter and a sticker of a cat crying…if you are really sad you don't have time for these things. She's ok with her cat dying, she doesn't care…
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Your pet is dying and you are tasting cum, please, not now stupid dumb asshole!!!!!!!
You call ahead, but like any emergency vet, they're more than likely to see you. From my experience at an emergency vet during COVID (also live in metropolitan area), you call ahead and take the cat to the door. Someone brings the animal inside and the humans wait in the car while the animal is being assessed or prepped for euthanasia. The clinic will then call with updates.
Most places will let at least one masked person inside so the animal doesn't die alone surrounded by strangers. Not only that, but there is options of at-home euthanasia that would require an appointment since the vet comes to you, but would more than likely have pain meds for the animal ready to pick up at their clinic because vets aren't just going to let an animal suffer.
Then you call ahead, explain that your cat is dying from a "stage four cancer" and work something out from there. If it doesn't work, you keep calling different clinics until they let you bring the pet.
I do not understand what the fuck Lilee and Laur are doing.
Not that anon but I wouldn't say it's crazy. I would expect a person with a dying, in pain animal that can't drink or feed to get them put down and relieved of their suffering within a reasonable time frame, say 48 hours. I would have thought that even during the pandemic that's possible, if you care to try hard enough. When I had my last pet put down it was an extremely simple and quickly arranged process, because vets don't want the animals to suffer either.
It would never strike me to get on Instagram Stories to cry and get my tits out.
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The car has been bleeding from the mouth since November, and they just took her to the vet. She acts like Belle has been put down while making the video, even though she was posting videos with her after she had recorded it. That poor cat has been suffering for months and Lillee used it as a platform to complain about getting death threats.
Different LI anon, but LJ and Laur could go to a low-income veterinary service such as North Shore Animal League.
This is incredibly upsetting that her cat has been suffering for so long. I recently had to put down my cat (same age as Bella). I didn't care about how much it was going to cost, only cared about comforting my animal. Yes, ER vet visits are expensive but at least to me - it's family. COVID protocol at the ER was that a tech takes your pet into the center, we were able to watch the exam from a window and called us immediately after. Once it was over, they brought my pet back out, gave us all the medications and sent the report from the exam to our normal vet. We called our vet and scheduled an appointment to bring him in to cross the rainbow bridge. We were allowed to have two family members in the room for the appointment.
LJ and Laur are awful.
Her acting is so poor she can't pretend she cares. She's putting on this one-deminsional show of how sad she is. But she forgets to keep it up, and begins to overshare about herself. I can't get through the whole thing in one sitting because it's disgusting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgyX99U0bpY
I doubt there's an appointment to put the cat down. The way she described "Grandma Wrinkles" sounds like they let the cat die at home but she finished the description of an agonizing death with "she had to be put down."
When my cat started to isolate and displayed textbook end of life behaviors one morning, we called at around noon after trying to get him comfortable. The vet told us to have one last night with the cat and scheduled us for his first appointment the next day. I believe this is standard. One last night. Not weeks. Fucking evil cunts.
Something about that “she’s so fierce, an extension of me” really rubs me the wrong way. Girl can’t stop talking about how ~fierce and Aries~ she is even when her cat is dying.
I know they’re awful in general but something about letting an older animal suffer really shows how gross they are. The poor cat is literally going to starve if she can’t eat or drink, how would you not put her to sleep? Just gross negligence.
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In the same line, the song she picked for the preview video on tiktok is Stronger by Britney Spears- "you might think that I won't make it on my own"
Fuck Lillee and Laur. Horrible excuses for humans.
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She’s such an animal lover. She doesn’t even know it’s ASPCA.
What exactly is crazy about it to you? Not letting your pet suffer to death? Sorry but I think if you have a pet in extreme pain, it should be your priority to help it (don't come at me with excuses, Laur and Lillee aren't even going to a day job). Maybe I am unaware how difficult it is to book a vet visit in USA since here it is not a problem if you call in advance or have an urgent issue (and cancer euthanasia is urgent). It doesn't seem impossible from what other anons say.
I don't understand how they can just watch their supposed friend in tremendous pain and do nothing.
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There’s a TikTok from a month ago which shows Bella’s face swollen & unable to close her mouth. She’s been suffering for a long time.
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Laur's big mad someone called bullshit on LJ on Twitter.
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She's calling people who are worried about Bella trolls lol
Something's really off with her. If you've had a pet for so long and truly love them you're not gonna act like that. Jesus. I was fretting for hours when my (senior) cat had to go under sedation for a tooth cleaning because of the small chance that he wouldn't wake up. Her cat of 18 years died and she doesn't give a fuck???
Before this I just saw her as a self-centered delusional brat, but this behavior is down-right crazy.
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this thread is insane…
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And while Laur is having a Monday Menthol Meltdown, Lillee is playing with makeup and thanking her fans for patting her back as she continues to let the cat suffer.
Despicable white trash.
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There’s video from Dec 18th where you can see the cat can’t close its mouth. A vet would have put the animal down then not give it “treatment” whatever the fuck that is
Lillee and Laur’s stories don’t line up like usual. Lillee says it’s been going on for 2 years. Laur’s saying it just started recently. Laur says the cats had treatment for weeks. Lillee says she got a cortisone shot 2 days ago.
The cat has been suffering since Saturday based on Lillee’s crying post. It’s now Monday and Laur’s refusing to say if the poor animal has been euthanized. “Now it’s time” sounds like the cat is still alive and suffering.It’s disgusting and they’re mad because people are rightfully calling them out on their cruelty.
I know it’s been mentioned a million times, but Laur and Lillee both have the most bizarre grasp of English. I’ve never heard any other native speaker talk like they do. Someone who is uneducated or stupid might misspell things or misuse punctuation, sure, but these two just seem to have no grasp on the meaning of very simple, everyday words.
I can’t imagine anyone saying they’re going to “preserve” a living animal, that’s straight up ESL shit. I just don’t get it.
They almost have a version of twin speak, and it's not a new development. Back when they had Lillee do the Indie Blush Magazine article, it was brought up that they had their own language. (And they Laur kept butting in, although it was worded nicer)
Learning how people speak and interact from cartoons and fairy tales will do a number on your social development, but only really having confrontations with imaginary enemies in the mirror will make you feel wayyyy smarter than you are. Laur and Lillee believe they are the smartest people in the room, and considering they never leave their house, they probably are. If they had to have a confrontation in public, Lillee would have a panic attack and run off crying and Laur would just keep getting louder until she got physically violent, then cry that she was assaulted.
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>>815145>I love everything about the heritagestorenatural skincare produ cts
Uses them once for the promo, never touches them again.
She never sounds even the least bit genuine. You can tell she only does it because it's an excuse to talk about herself and that she's given only the barest cursory sniff of the product. She is so lacking in creativity of language and presentation, so the result is super stilted, boring and uninformative.
At least it shows up which beauty companies are comprised of desperate morons.
Patiently awaiting Lillee’s tirade against the natural beauty store and how she
because they eat babies or some shit
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aspca shelters screen families before placing pets. They aren’t going to adopt an animal out to a household with 2 disabled members and zero income. Most shelters require a letter from your landlord if you’re renting too. They can buy a cat off Craigslist but they’re not adopting anything from the aspca. It’s also weird af she’s already named her new cat when her old cat is still dying a painful, miserable death.
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Laur didn’t notice they deleted the post
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>>815168>> we continue to grow
Translation: sorry we didn’t research Lillee Jean and used a racist, transphobic, pro-grooming attic goblin to promote our products
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I see another brand C&D in Lillee’s future
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4 days after saying Bella was put down, Lillee’s finally posting confirmation
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Laur is pissed they got dropped and is gearing up for a rant. She gets SO sensitive when they get backlash for the shitty things they do. And yet… Laur will never change.
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Either Laur is tweeting at the vet, or Lillee is continuing to obfuscate when exactly Bella is/was put down. The language in video is meant to make you think the cat is dead, but she never actually says it and she still hasn't. She's dancing around it, which is Trueman for they are faking.
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Lillee said they put Bella down 18 hours ago
It’s obvious Lillee was planning to livestream Bella’s very painful death for sympathy. Once she started getting pushback, it changed to “we put her down” “we have an appointment to it her down”. They had no intention of humanely euthanizing her. Bella died of hunger/thirst this morning after not being able to eat and barely breath since Friday - 4 fucking days ago. Now they’re just biding their time and playing victim
until some Queens vet contacts Diane and says the Trueman’s dumped a dead cat at their office.
Thanks for nothing anon. Post deleted and you didn't screen cap retard.>>815168
Are you a good farmer, did you get a screenshot before they deleted?
Not anon but there's a screengrab here: >>815145
There wasn't much more to see as a screencap because it was a video.
I remember a Tiktok she posted of the cat’s hairless belly and I thought it was weird. I thought it had some kind of skin irritation or something until lj put her face in it, made me go hmm.
Maybe she thinks that because her own fucked teeth bleed all the time, a cat getting that sick must be normal. Just like she has a burning vagina problem but doesn’t get it checked at the doctor’s, it’s totally normal.
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(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
Yeah, it's a selfpost.
no one thinks she's a whale; she's short, a little on the chunky side and the way she dresses doesn't help.
Her teeth have been discussed to death all ready.
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The date of death is left out. What do we think, farmers? Is the cat really dead?
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Looks like Laur may be on Pandemic Unemployment Assistance.
Which in itself isn't bad, but considering her constant stream of screaming the boolies cost her her business, I find it suspicious. If benefits and the moratorium on rent aren't extended again, I expect we will see the Trueman's move again in April/May.
Laur's all about that "free" money.
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Update on the suspended accounts, most are from her totally real fans who are suspended at the exact same time, but it's totally not suspicious at all.
Sorry for bad quality, I got it from twitter.
BTW why is LJ always saying "eyeballs"? There is the drunk elephant video where she accidentally puts product in her eye bc too dumb, and she says it went on her eyeballs… This is so weird.
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Saged because not particularly remarkable milk but I found it funny and indicative of LJ’s extremely tenuous grasp of English and poor critical thinking skills:
1. “In the context of to someone else” (???)
2. “Inspiring” and “remembered” are kind of the same thing? Well, not really, but close enough that they shouldn’t be different choices
3. I’m sure “rather be hated” would be a totally popular and reasonable choice
4. “Forgotten” and “neutral no feeling towards” (??? kek) are also kind of similar?
What a goddamn mess of a poll.
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They got a new cat already
Is it common in vets offices to just have cats wandering around free? I've never been in one that kept other animals in the exam/basic care rooms.
and…um, wasn't she saying Bella was put down on Monday? But she's just now posting this cat that she got when Bella was put down? So when exactly did Bella get put down?
I agree, I'm sure:
-She got him on craiglist for free.
-Cat's not vaccinated and they're not planning to do so.
-The previous owner didn't bg checked them.
-They never went to the vet and they probably tossed poor bella in the trash.
Anons, how may cats of theirs get cancer? Is this another stage 4 diagnosis pulled directly from the ass of esteemed Dr Laur, DVM?
The whole Bella story was ringing a bell for me, so I went looking, and Lillee told some vague sob story about another dead cat named Grandma Wrinkles with cancer several months ago >>768630
She said that the cat screamed and "peed on the kitchen floor" when it was "put down" which doesn't sound at all like they went to a vet's office. There was a tinfoil that Laur and Lillee would never fork over the cash for a vet to do a home visit to euthanize Grandma and that Laur just probably offed the cat herself and buried it in the yard or something.
What are the chances that Laur did another DIY on Bella and that they just snatched up a stray cat they found outside?
Watched the cat video that was called out for being self posted. Vid is dry but does say somethings on cat cancer. The person was saying that the meds they gave the cat would not work
lol sage for dumb blog, but I did actually take my cat to a vet once & they had an “office cat” just strolling around the waiting room… but it was so weird and inappropriate I never went there again. and even in that one-off situation, the cat definitely wasn’t up for adoption
also holy shit I hope this new cat doesn’t have any medical issues as a result of the broken pelvis (or whatever caused it). they’re not equipped to care for themselves, let alone an animal with long-term health problems
I don’t discredit the story on that, I’ve seen vets that have had one or two pets in there that could be adopted. I’ve even seen a vet that had a surgery cat that was available to be adopted out and he just chilled behind the reception desk all day. So in general that works.
The problem I have with her story is how covid would impact a vet visit. First of all I don’t think any vet would encourage more foot traffic with adoptions right now. I could see them being more lenient in maybe letting more than one family member in for a euthanasia and not rush them out the door, but I can’t see them having people wandering around behind the scenes to view animals. Also whenever I’ve been in for a euthanasia they’ll take the payment and sort everything out straight away so when I’m ready I can just leave, no hanging around. I doubt they’d have time to stumble upon a cat for adoption, they’d likely have had to ask to look at the cats.
Anon, I sincerely applaud your tenacity.>>768644>a cat that died of brain cancer because the previous owner (Laur’s ex best friend) smoked and dropped the cat on it’s head
That's not how cancer works.
If it was lung cancer, maybe, but cats never fall "on their head".
(unless Lillee hit the cat on purpose)
I am disturbed by this: >>768697>Yeah, I tried pulling her out aggressive claw hands again and like I felt like Bella hated me, but I felt like it actually built a bonding experience (No, your cat fucking hated you)
I also never believed Laur's 150 000 times cancer survival hero stories too.
Laur and Lillee are manipulative sickos who are unable to love someone besides themselves, they know people will not question their medical history. Laur's symptoms don't even match the type of cancer she said she had. And all their cats have cancer now?
Fake cancer diagnoses are absolutely always the choice of the moronic scam artist/Munchausen's nutter.
Thinking of all the pets I've owned in my life and those of my friends, the illnesses or conditions that ultimately befall them are pretty nuanced and differ each time. I would be able to explain them thoroughly and with proper technical terms and symptoms that fit the diagnosis. Same as with the people in my life.
If you are a mentally deficient grifter, cancer will always be the choice because it's simple, everyone's heard of it, and you will receive unending sympathy and probably few questions.
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And just like that, Bella is a distant memory, a poor kitty that fell into the fate of so many instafluncer's fake life styles. She was old, bleeding on everything, barely able to breathe, with a wonky face. Not exactly the attention getter you want in your tiktoks. Now she's gone and immediately replaced by a cute new kitten with a tragic backstory that ends with being rescued by the Truemans!
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From >>768697>But as my mom was putting her down, Silky actually came out of the pen. Where she went was a vet that also kind of cared for lost cats, and somehow the door, and it was like a really big glass door, was open, and Silky came out and jumped in my mom’s lap. Her paws were on her chest and she just looked up and started purring, and that was Silky. Sold.
You're right, anon. These are pretty much the exact same stories.
I guess "purr" is the new word Lillee is stuck on. She keeps trying to force it into every post, and I can't tell if it's just her atrophied brain making word salad, or if she picked it up from one of the Black beauty gurus she stalks on twitter, and is having a "whew chillay" moment.
In any case, it makes no sense the way she's using it. WTF is a "purr manicure," and also "God himself" does her nails? Way to blaspheme, Lils.
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There’s a video clip of the kitten pawing her finger. “Purr manicure” is fucking stupid but it’s probably in reference to cat touching her fingers.
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Cat's eating on the doll's shelves.
I wonder where the litter is, maybe under her bed?
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tatiana filed a lawsuit against these people after she inserted herself into this whole situation, used strangers’ money to hire a lawyer and now she’s trying to stir up the drama again? lmao, noticed she doesn’t get many views on youtube anymore since she stopped talking about them.
also mentioning the fact she repeatedly said she will “never discuss lillee jean or her mother” on her channel again
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why did she think this was attractive..
I don't like Tati but she has gotten traction on her makeup ig and is living her life with a job and bf. She called it that suddenly people would start after her once making this video, and here is unsaged Karen coming in hot.
Is she also a bit of a cow? Meh. She's milky adjacent. She wants followers and to feel important but that's her and thousands of other girls. I hope she just follows tutorial without much commentary. She works a shit ton more than LJ so I can't wait to see the #jeaniez seethe & make false reports.
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Wtf was she going for?
I don't like Tatiana much neither, but if it makes Laur furious I'm good with it.
Adding that LJ seems to truly hate Tatiana for what was already mentioned above: she has bf+ job+ her own flat+ friends+ real engagement+ decent makeup+ fitting clothes keks.
What about the C&D? Does it mean Tatiana can talk about Laur or LJ but not the other way arround?
I recall Laur was REALLY scared about the lawsuit and they moved right after the C&D so it could be rental issues+ lawsuits.
>>816134>If you don't like LJ ignore LJ
Follwing that logic it should be:
If you don't like people talking about you, get off the internet.
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She looks like is wearing one of those novelty pacifiers
you don't give a fuck about your pets. you let your cat being in pain and die. and you took advantage of the death for gain some more views, likes, fame or people feeling sorry about you. when the cat was dying you were doing stories and videos like if nothing happened. you do not deserve or have the right to have more pets. animals are beautiful, friendly and kind, and you are the opposite. i hope one day you will suffer like that innocent and poor cat that you left alone when dying.
what you do is so disgusting.
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Hi Laur, learn to sage your bullshit. The only bully here is you, sweet baby>>816749
Lillee only has two modes, doesn't she? "I'm on my period and have so many hormones and a tight pelvic wall >.<" and "I'm so horny, jerk off to my feet, random Indian men"
And just like that; everytime the thread is dead and no one is talking about her for more than 2 days, someone who is absolutely not LJ or Laur
comes here and commands us to stop talking about her.
Legend also says that if you yell "Laur Trueman is old and ugly" 3 times at midnight in a very dirty room, a sock account will appear and leave nasty comments under all your social media posts.
Zero activity on this thread for a couple of days, the callouts mostly moved on months ago, and even the Pradips haven't been leaving any love for her on LJ's ghost town twitter posts.
Lillee/Laur, we know you watch this thread: stop wasting time with this low-effort footperv bullshit and throw a proper tantrum for us, darlings. Miss those Franzia Freakouts.
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Why would you do a hair tutorial when your hair looks this nasty?
Also, if you took a shot for everytime she describes this as elegant or stunning you'd be hammered half way thru the video.
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Her hair is a greasy mess and this looks like literal dogshit.
G8 job, Lillee.
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This latest video is not doing so well.even after 4 hours, it has 3 comments-2 of which are Lillee Jean. Better call the bot farms!
Lillee is really concerned with being "silenced" and losing her voice. She consistently brings it up, and, outside of her hair, seems to be the major sore spot for her. I can't help but be curious about it. With the polls about how would you want "another person" to remember you and how she embellishes any minor accomplishment, I think Lillee Jean is terrified of being forgettable. At her aunt had multiple articles about her death, laur and Earl will just be the cheapest obituary package and a Facebook post.
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Finally, a look to match LJ’s looks and personality
Although miss piggy may still be too pretty for her
Kek. LJ has Express
mom jeans! They're not Old Navy or Walmart like anons have said in this thread. She had to be sure to call that out, must have been bugging her for a long time. And don't you dare say her hair is brown, either.
It's pathetic how little she has to show off as an influncer. She should embrace being dumb & poor. Especially poor. Do Walmart outfits and drugstore makeup if she can even afford to. Make her cosplays about reusing Amazon and party city costumes & accessories, and re-doing her one makeup look in slightly different shades.
She is the opposite of everything she wants to be, she must truly hate who she really is.
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Ffs, LJ just download a dating app at this point for ur horniness.
I'm sure you can catfish some dude who doesn't care abt covid for some dick
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Answered like a true virgin
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This from the same girl that still has a instagram post telling her followers to "aaatttttasck" sakekitty for calling her hair brown, and Laur bullies companies constantly. In typical Lillee stalker fashion, she went thru this person's Twitter feed. I think Pheepy may be a real person that just said hi to her one day in 4th grade and she's been obsessed with him since. She's definitely the crazy stalker that makes up a whole relationship in her head.
Lillee is so dumb and arrogant she is actually insulting both of them. Is she saying that customers are bullies now..?
The Overclockers account is not a support account and politely responded to Adventuresupnorth. Wtf.
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Lillee is mexican now
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Lillee posted about her heritage
on YouTube too
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I thought her great gma was stabbed in the face fleeing nazis? Now she’s an Australian pirate?
So much bullshit in all of this, I wouldn't even know where to start. But…1500'? Would love to see evidence of a 1500 ancestry, but you know the paper are probably locked up inside some french catacombs by the Nazis.
Several anons earlier talked about regression and making up some fancy lineage, this is sure some heavy sign of mental deterioration.
Nitpick:>>817610>Alsace France>>817603>1 event in Cherbourg
Cherbourg's in Normandy Lillee you uncultured swine. Learn some fucking geography.
It makes me wonder what she meant by her Russian/Ukrainian ancestors were Jewish, buy the German ones were Orthodox. Sounds a bit backwards to me.
It's 50 shades of beige, like every other basic American white girl. The only thing remotely unusual is that she doesn't have .00003% Sub-Saharan African or a like a Cherokee princess or something hiding in there somewhere.
You can't build a personality out of your 23andMe results, Lils. You're still just unseasoned chicken breast and broccoli.
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Laur is now on the all lives matter bandwagon
Sweet dancing Jesus.
I can’t decide if this just her racism showing again, or she’s trying to get people talking about LG again. Either way, she clearly has parsnips for brains
Well,since her daughter is related to Mexicans now, she can't just say black lives.
And she's back to sucking up to Estella. She really thinks Estella cares about her. Estella dropped her ass after she got in trouble with Rossow and Big Daddy Luci for spreading private information that Laur sent her. Estella won't do anything to risk his affections. She's too busy writing erotic fan fiction about him falling in love with her.
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Laur’s having a multi-platform franzia freakout
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>> I c u I c everything
Wtf is going on in the attic? These two are incredibly paranoid today.
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This multiracial haunt is pathetic. It won't make her more relatable/likable.
It's only vaguely interesting if you have very unusual beauty with noteworthy features such as Anya Taylor-Joy or Ezra Miller who unlike Lillee, are very talented actors.
Being an attic 50yo looking hobgoblin nobody is indeed unsual but too unfortunate to be racially intriguing, as it's more a medical condition.
It's sad how she desperately wants to be this international influencer who belongs somewhere at the top of the social class with her fancy ancestors but makes no effort to be genuine and skilled in any ways.
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Laur’s on one again
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It always annoys me when Laur and Lillee claim to be victims
of antisemitic behavior. I've never seen it, after a year and a half, and if they weren't constantly telling people they are Jewish, no one would know. The only thing Jewish about either of them is maybe a historically Jewish nose, but they aren't active or even trying to pretend to be unless it is Christmas and they don't want to put down the suffering cat.
Lillee must be on her moon cycle, these normally happen when she's pissy and lashes out at Laur for not aborting her like any intelligent person would have.
“ethnics” to prove you’re not racist. G8 plan, Laur.
Has anyone heard Lillee or Laur mention Laur being her manager since Drew disowned them?
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Oh look, Kermit the frog is wearing Billie Eilish's wigs. Two for one deal on party city wigs.>>818024
She's been super self conscious about her hair lately, she's all about wearing wigs. She knows her hair looks like pond water and she is too poor to get it properly fixed.
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Chelsea, a self proclaimed white-passing “ethnic”, reacting to Laur’s racist meltdown. She’s going to look mighty stupid coming to Laur’s defense after tonight’s klan themed franzia freakout.
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Laur must have been on a bender or feeling ignored tonight. She's dropped the ALM bullshit from her name. She got the attention she wanted and got to play victim, back to hiding while tweeting at thin air in locked until she needs to have someone pay attention to her again.
>>818017>You need to stfu and stop acting 13 instead of 23
Laur you are 52. YOU need to stop acting like a 6yo dumb spoiled brat.>>818103>she’ll work retail eventually
Jobs with no qualification are difficult to get, especially now. I don't see how Lillee could possibly be hired.
Laur won't take the risk to see Lillee-the-dainty-princess getting her own money.
If Lillee was on her own, I bet she would run at her aunt or any family left to live for free, just like Margaret Palermo did.
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Just last week Laur was praising Tatiana. Guess Lillee didn’t get a big boost in views or followers from Tatiana’s video.
I’m not sure if anyone’s pointed it out but Tatiana is Puerto Rican, not black. Laur saying Tatiana is racist because she believes only black lives (her race) matter >>818009
is funny considering Tatiana isn’t even black.
I also can’t see Lillee being hired for much - just meeting with her in an interview would be an experience that would be baffling.
I think the only chance she’d have would be a call centre, the type of place that basically hires everyone due to the high turn over rates and let’s them weed themselves out. I am sure she would eventually be fired though, because those jobs do have schedules, metrics, etc and she can only do things “on her own time”, and I think it’s unlikely she would be able follow a script successfully honestly
a spoiled brat and probably has a low IQ, but plenty of unintelligent people have jobs. I’m sure she can work and care for herself just fine, she simply doesn’t want to.
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Lillee's Yt videos just went from 1.2k views to 3.5k on average.
Tatiana's last video is at 5.1k.
I checked last week and Lillee was arround 1.6k views on average for the last videos.
Did they bought views because Tatiana had more? Lillee socialblade shows only +400 subscribers, but +132,144 views, while her analytical history shows a huge drop in views, she is back to the number of views she had one year ago.
Laur is her manager because Lillee has no talent and there is no sane person on earth who would willingly manage LJ.
Unless they become less paranoid and agoraphobic, LJ's not going to have an opportunity to leave the house to interact a guy in the first place, let alone to have sex with them. The most interaction she gets from males other than her father is the gross Indian guys on her lives who want to see her feet. LJ's biggest chance of getting knocked up right now is if someone breaks into her house and assaults her.>inb4 Laur starts sperging people are orchestrating a plan to break into her house to harm Lillee.
I could also see Laur whoring Lillee out if they met a guy with connections and he could help her career.
Plus, weird nitpick about not being on birth control for someone we know isn't sexually active.
I was thinking her attitude would be enough to prevent her from doing any of that menial work, like >>818154
said. can you seriously imagine her keeping a schedule and listening to someone else long enough to even make it through training at mcd’s?
I don’t doubt she’d fail at any normie menial job because of her bratty attitude (fast food is a lot more challenging than most people think), I was just addressing the other anon’s point about adult protective services. Being an asshole who thinks they’re better than everyone isn’t really a reason to be in protective care. Unless she actually has a diagnosed mental disability, she’s just a spoiled brat who chooses
not to work.
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Good timing, anon. She just left this comment about bc on her newest YT video. Laur told Lillee she can’t take bc due to a family history of blood clots and birth defects? Wtf.
If you continued to take it during pregnancy it might cause issues.
I wonder if the "side effect" Lillee is actually so worried about is weight gain…. Lillee's understanding of sexuality, sex, and reproductive health is very skewed to old views and stereotypes. Laur probably places blame on birth control for her cancer(?), difficulties with getting pregnant, and any number of Lillee's unique traits, rather than her subpar genetics, being a heavy smoker, and having a older sperm donor. Laur is 100% the type of person to insult other females by calling them loose (so Lillee tells people about how tight her walls are) and still believes sex-ed in high school/middle school is causing the kids to be whores. Lillee isn't going to get a real sex education from Barbie movies and DC cartoons.>>818159
I think Lillee's expectation of a 10 will quickly settle for a solid 5 or 6 that engages with her. Lillee has said she's very shy and we've all watched how cringe she is in public. She always manages to look clingy in photos of her at events because she hangs on for dear life to anyone that talks to her.
How they get past the iron chastity belt that is Laur, I don't know.
This is such a bullshit excuse for not taking birth control. My family has a history of blood clots, strokes along with other medical things. When you’re at risk of these things, doctors always look at other options, which there is. Not sure if there’s any biologists here but there is a “mini pilll” which is progesterone only, taken by those at risk of clotting and strokes.
The only reason Lillee doesn’t want to take birth control is purely because she’s a disgusting virgin
Sage for non-milky content. Apparently, Tatiana deactivated her Twitter account and made a video about feeling "unsafe" on the platform.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-7z-de2cJ8&ab_channel=TaterTatiana
I find it annoying how she keeps provoking LJ & Laur and then plays the victim
when they react. Everyone knows they are deranged racist psychos. If she is this bothered by them, does she really need to create content related to LJ? What did she expect?
agreed, and the whole lawsuit thing with the go fund me was ridiculous. she inserted herself into the whole LJ and Laur situation, cries about it and gets people to donate? why not just stop talking about them, stop making videos about them (especially since every video on LJ she makes she says will be the last)
in my opinion she just loves the attention, she knows all the people who hate on LJ will take her side especially if says it’s “affecting” her. like, just stop posting about her lol
Tatiana made 3 more videos after she said she was done talking about them. What does she expect? Laur hasn’t changed at all in the last year. Her franzia freakouts are predictable at this point. There’s no real danger in her threats. Why is Tatiana letting it bother her so much. Say what you want about Dees but at least she never pretended to be a victim
and actually stopped making videos on them when she said she was done.
In Laur's latest rant, she did mention Tatiana and her lawyer(?) had been sent a C&D. Has Tatiana addressed that?
I mean, Laur's practically just a chained up bad tempered dog at this point. She's too afraid of Tatiana's "fake" lawyer to directly attack Tatiana, and she's atleast learned to not directly attack people so she doesn't get strikes for targeted harrasment. She gets off on unlocking her account and everyone paying attention to her, but Jamie's employers are aware of Laur, so she's all bark and no bite now.
I doubt Laur sent a C&D. She seems to be under the impression that a C&D goes both ways. It doesn't. Much like a Order of Protection (restraining order) it only applies to the person who was served. Tati can keep LJ's name in her mouth as long as she claims "allegedly" and sticks to fair use. Laur can't and that has pissed her off so much.>>818322
Why wouldn't Tati take advantage of this crazy, racist momager who keeps coming for her? Like every other content creator, she has cow qualities. It makes for views and a good story. Also helps any legal case she has.
I do give props to Diane for dropping it, though. Tati just likes playing in the poop.
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Lillee reused an old box as a tray for her single use starbucks cup. Climate change is solved #1change4change
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The awkward sound of silence.
Shit tinfoil, she and Laur are too much of white trash conservative Christians to do that.
If Lillee wants to ride the Jojo Siwa wave she'll do a Jojo "look" and talk about how much she supports the LGBTQ community.
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>Been doing it since day one
Day one of what? She doesn't go out, she doesn't meet people, she doesn't work, she doesn't need to spend the day with masks on her face, nor need the money to buy lots of masks nor change them regularly.
It's amazing how she wears them 30 sec for the pictures but thinks she can lecture people about wearing masks.
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Russia and Ukraine are the same according to Lil’ Jean.
Imagine having such a huge complex that you look at your family's possible history and the thing you latch on to is how much of a victim
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Why post a photo of her nasty ass roots on her stories? It just makes it look like she never showers.
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Lillee is learning about the plural and singular forms of genders! Stumbled a little trying to turn woman into a into a inspirational quote, but she was finally able to identify herself as a woman instead of a child, so that's an improvement. Now if she could teach her mother the same lessons. I don't think bridge trolls are particularly good at telling the males and females apart though.
Since it's about Ukraine, may I request a Chernobyl look?
That was quite 'trendy' just some few decades ago.
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Comrade Dyatlov cosplay when?
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her head size compared to the rest of her body is so.. off
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There is also this one.
Lol she went on ancestry.com it's a scam.
Results are completely worthless.
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Lillee may not have said the word but she certainly lip synced it and posted video of her doing so, which is just as bad. Clearly the way she was raised, she thinks it’s nbd based on this response
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She's a hateful little bitch, which is bad enough, but she's so goddamn stupid her insults and comebacks are a mind drain to read. She thinks she won because the person is too dumbfounded by her stupidity to reply…and she wouldn't approve it anyways. Only when her socks reply and her "scolding" replies allowed. The word is scalding ffs.
I guess "metaphorically" is the word of the week. she's going to stick it in every sentence and make it crystal clear that she has no idea what the word "metaphor" means.>>814263
It will be the "shut the fuck up, black people" podcast all over again. She'll try to lie and deny repeatedly, and then try to delete the tiktok altogether so she can claim that people are "chopping her videos" and taking them "out of context."
Good thing a diligent anon posted a copy here for posterity. >>818613
The internet is forever, Lillee
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I rarely remember to check facebook, but apparently Laur did not get the attention she needed with her tantrum on twitter last week, so she went looking for pity elsewhere yesterdayhttps://www.facebook.com/ltru1/posts/10221161096350429
I believe that Laur believes all of that. She's so set in that they have never done anything wrong and anything that doesn't go their way for the rest of their lives will be because of Diane/Tati/sake/inserttrollhere. She says that people have forgotten what they were originally mad about, but they have never honestly addressed all of that, they have only side stepped and lied and lashed out when cornered.
It makes perfect sense for her to post it on Facebook though, since she would only really interact with people that will only see her side, and the two common people who interact with her are… Alan Swyer, who once upon a time was gonna make a movie about Brenda, and Sammy, the x boxer that threatened Nok. Both old dudes past their prime and purpose.
>>818624>All lives matter doesn’t minimize BLM>Damn right we are white and Jewish (lol) >directly blames Tati for every negative comment that LJ has received
Laur is so clueless. There are about a million articles online that explain the problem with all lives matter, really doesn’t take a lot of social awareness to admit you didn’t understand the topic.
Also pretty funny that everything
is now apparently Tati’s fault. What happened to Diane or the dozens of other channels that made videos about LJ? Laur is really all about blaming one particular person for any/every misfortune. Diane stopped talking about them and immediately became a distant memory.
She shifted to Tatiana because Tatiana is accessible. Try as she might, she couldn't pin down Diane, and her attacks rolled off her. She's rabid for Tatiana because Tatiana is tangible and is atleast somewhat affected by Laur's outbursts. Outside of maybe the Janitor, Laur has no real idea who anyone else is.
No one cares to help a crazy old attic troll ranting and raving about ghosts harassing her 24/7, but say that you were attacked by a specific person and people might give a damn.
I wonder if this(or atleast the version she posted on Tatiana's video) is the C&D she was referring to? It's the fucking classic "I'm not gonna refer to a lawyer, I'm going to do it myself and shoot myself in the foot" choices we've come to expect from Laur.
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>>818624>19 year old Jewish influencer
They really want those POC
>>818624>whose CEO is a lawyer
Does she think everyone is scared shitless of lawyers? She always brings that up as a vague threat>>818641
I believe LJ is claiming she’s ethnically Jewish, but her family is Lutheran lol. I don’t get her logic either. You’re a white Christian, LJ. Sooo oppressed
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i found this comment in that video you linked, i checked laurs IG and found nothing (unless i completely skipped over the account) and i can’t check her twitter but this is extremely weird if true but tbh not surprising, this family is weird as hell kek
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There’s a foot account but Laur stopped following it
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Update on her merch:
Who wants a beautiful nice white super white hoodie with Lillee wearing a pink mask because it's so much safer if we remember it thanks to Lillee. https://teespring.com/stores/lillee-jean?page=1
seriously i still can't get over "i have far more girth below than you ever shall." first off, why is she talking like she works at medieval times – "than you ever shall" ok 15th century knight from england.
also wtf is "girth below." that sounds like she's calling herself fat. "girthy" is not a word i would use to describe my lower body, let alone want other people to say i have "more girth below than anyone ever shall."
lillie jean's brain works in such mysterious and retarded ways sometimes it's impossible to even understand wtf she's talking about.
how does someone ignore their pet suffering for TWO YEARS?!?! if one of my pets MIGHT be suffering from something I schedule the soonest vet appointment possible.
is it possible to seriously be so self-absorbed that the universe revolves only around lillie jean and lillie jean exclusively – not even "extensions" of her are a part of that orbit?
god that is so infuriating. that just proves that the "cat was an extension of herself", but only to the extent that "it" could bring her views.
she's such a dumb bitch if she thinks people can't see right through that
It's all about image. They've always tried to increase visibility to con a company into thinking they're a big deal and getting a collab. They want to be Kim K, Paris Hilton types that just uses their face as a brand. LJ does seem to think that she's perfect for a marvel acting job if she could only get the attention of a casting director. >>818681
Laur, being a peanut brain, can only see things in the context of herself and LJ. So Tat used BLM against them because of the "fucking get over it, black people." Laur is so threatened by that, she uses her Jewish heritage as a shield and ALM as a response. Meaning that Laur thinks that Tat vs. Laur is BLM vs. ALM. She wants to say that you can't use just black lives matter because jewish lives matter too. It's a diversion because LJ is a poster child for white blinders when it comes to POC
matters. They fucked up bad and still want to be woke. Unfortunately, they really don't understand that ALM is always going to be belittling to black narratives of discrimination. It's like someone wearing a Nazi symbol and saying "actually, I'm wearing it because it's originally Buddhist." No one will see it other than a Nazi symbol for hate. No one will understand that All Lives Matters as literal.
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So she wants to appeal to her Arab audience, which is supposedly a very minor percentage of her videos instead of the American/British/Canadian audience that makes up most of her viewers? Sure.
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At least she knows what she likes.
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Wtf is this convo Laur
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The look she copied
She keeps calling it "the Ukraine" instead of Ukraine. Apparently the Attic Academy's geography and world history text books haven't been updated since the Berlin Wall came down, and I guess the Wikipedia entry on this beloved ancestral land
she can't shut up about is just too much reading for her to handle.
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so i’m blocked by lillee on my instagram, never commented on anything apart from last august/sept and now laur has just requested to follow me
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This is the difference in a professional makeup artist and a little girl playing at being a makeup artist. Even with the double posts of some of the looks, she still manages to have more variety than LJ's 10 cosplays.
Wasn't she supposed to go for trends? Like actually do
some research about the country.
She is so deep in her ignorant imaginary world, she thinks Russia is all about frozen castles and high fashion.
When it's more about Navalny, top trend right now. But I guess it's easier to be pro-Biden without voting than do a 5 sec google research about Russia.
Even if she went along with an OF how much could she realistically make?
Besides some creeps into weird bodies there's no way she can make a living out of this.
You guys are so obsessed with the idea of every cow jumping on OF. It's not going to happen. >>818750
She really is so in touch with her genealogy that she doesn't even know that saying "the Ukraine" is incredibly offensive, lol.
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Lillee’s a 19 yo shut-in with a made up pedophile boyfriend. She has no choice other than celebrating Valentine’s Day with her mom.
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Good call, psychic anon.
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same fucking energy
Invisalign would also not cause her tiny baby teeth to suddenly grow bigger to fill up her mouth. If she is really getting it, which I highly doubt, it’s a BAD idea. Bitch needs surgery and veneers
I didn’t watch her stream but I wonder she’s planning on getting those Invisalign knock-off that do more harm than good. I agree that it seems that Invisalign is more suited when your teeth start getting misaligned with age. It’s moving things not around, but in her case she doesn’t have enough material to work with.
I’m gonna bet she’s prob planning on doing one of those smileclub thing where you do your own impression of your teeth and they send you a mold. Yes it’s much cheaper than professional braces but that’s because there is no follow up or specialised care.
I bet Laur really thinks what’s stopping her cash cow from making real money is to fix her teeth, like they both aren’t unhinged and still below average in looks. Prob planning on cashing their stimulus check on it for 0 result.
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“bite and jaw” can’t be fixed by Invisalign. Ffs Lillee needs to go to an orthodontist and stop self diagnosing
God, having your wisdom teeth coming in impacted and not going to the dentist/having the money to go to the dentist to have it fixed would be Terrible. Tooth pain is miserable. fucking terrible. I can't imagine what it would be like to be in that kind of pain for months. years even, as the cancer grew and your parents refused to help you. even as your mouth bled profusely and they worried if your cancer would infect your sibling, yet left you to barely be able to eat. and then cuddle with you while posting about how sad they are to lose you, but still do nothing to ease your suffering until a group of internet bullies force their hand by threatening and calling the abuse hotlines for your sake.
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Laur’s insinuating Lillee has a Netflix deal
How is she supposed to act on sets if she never leaves home?>>819036
I see what you did there witty-Anon.
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Laur doesn’t know Reno is a character from final fantasy and not where this person lives
They are still banking on the Guardian Project. They think having a show paint them in a good light is the key to unlocking fame and fortune, but the problem is Lillee Jean is boring AF. Without her mom, she was a flash in the pan moment, two weeks of convo and maybe a flash back for some people. Her Mom is the source of 90% of the delicious milk. Lillee will freak the fuck out when the show airs mostly laur flipping out and a tiny bit of lils crying and being the victim
. Lillee hates being silenced, and she thinks "hollywood" is not going to play up her most prominent features?
After some weeks/months Laur'll say it cancelled because of covid keks but ❝they keep in touch❞
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1)Laur you can't afford a lawyer. The only one you found dropped you from not paying him.
2)You are the ones playing the victims.
3)Primink is the one who made a lot from your stupidity: 7,8 millions views and counting lol.
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They hate the poor so much lmao
Sweetheart, it's alright if you don't understand the stock market. The average person doesn't. Please don't pretend that you do
know, though, because it makes you look profoundly stupid.
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Lillee had one of Tatiana’s videos removed
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Lillee made a community post about her TMJ. She claims she goes to the dentist all the time but they didn’t notice an ongoing problem which dental anons diagnosed months ago. The info she gives is the first google result for TMJ overbite which she copied and left the date in.
Doesn’t Lillee have an underbite instead of an overbite?
So months after Diane removed herself from the drama, they tried to blame it all on Tatiana >>818624
who just deleted her social medias.
for pity points, they use the painful dental issues because they have to whine about something.
Lillee and Laur should both thank the dental Anons.
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is she really only 4ft 11?
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How tall did she say she actually was? How the fuck can someone in an industrialized western country that claims to have access to healthcare not know how tall they?!
Dentalfag and samefag but no
I’ve had tmj disorder since I was a teenager, caused thankfully by bruxism instead of cat teeth. I had it treated with orthodontics. I was told flat out by two orthos that invisiline was a poor option because it doesn’t give the ability to close space in the bite so the teeth have proper contact and can’t properly facilitate the teeth erupting further if it’s needed.
LJs teeth baffle me. I can’t even wrap my head around anything working to correct that outside of going back to the drawing board - pull the fucked up teeth and get dentures.
Holy shit that made me lol.>>819134
Isn’t her main issue microdontia (or something like it? Google image searching it looks like LJ’s fucked up grill
Sure looks like microdontia. She looks like one of those tiktoks where people say they’re getting “veneers” but it’s actually crowns, and they have their teeth filed down to pegs… but never went back to get the crowns.
I know very little about microdontia, but the google machine says extraction or crowns are the options to fix it. No where on that short list is “invisiline”. All her teeth bunched up in the front of her mouth without spaces will take up about as much room as most people’s front teeth so that’s gonna be a look.
Remember that video where she claimed that everyone online thought she was rich & classy? She went on about it being a "common misconception" and all the comments were like "Um, nobody thinks that and never will because you are obviously trash."
That still makes me chuckle.
Chewing gum is definitively not recommended for misaligned jaw. Dental work should be done during early teens, if she keeps waiting it'll be too late.>>819167
if nothing else dwarfism might qualify her for disability, meaning she never has to get a damn dirty job>>819167
oh no I hate this lol
Lillee for years: "MY TEETH ARE NORMAL YOU'RE ALL JELOUS CYBERBULLY HATERS!1!!!"Realises she can use it in an attempt to get asspats
"Oh yeah my TMJ is soooo bad~ I'm always in painnn~"
Laur/Lillee "dental surgery" gofundme when? kek
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Here’s a link to the IG livehttps://www.instagram.com/tv/CKsDTPPlS7h/?igshid=1o7ggvvf2on04
For those blocked…lots of incoherent rambling like usual. Says Tatiana’s lawyer scammed her. Says Tatiana’s medication is making her angry. Lillee also claims Tatiana is related to the callout accounts and Laur is tweeting shit about Tatiana’s relatives’ ages. Looking like unhinged stalkers to own the haterz.
Tatiana can be dumb but she did seem really upset about their obsessive behavior and her own safety. I truly hope she’s still in contact with her attorney and doing ok.
Summery of points
>Claims her "team" sent a cease & desist to Tatianna Requesting that she remove all her "defamatory" content about Lillee jean
>Tatianna removed and privated the videos
>Says Tatianna "played the victim" by saying Lille copyright claimed the videos
>Claims she doesn't know who Tatianna is and that Tatianna is obsessed with her
>Claims that Tatianna was harassing her family links a tweet that was deleted and serval others as "proof"
>Uses Her full name again "Tatianna Herrera, you’ve done 6 videos using my name, and making money off my pain by that point. By the end of your rope, you’d have done 11 videos"
>Claims Tatianna "filed a FAKE BBB and FTC report" just to get back at her and hurt her says Tatianna did it because RunwayRogue wouldn't drop Lillee
>Accuses Tatianna of "dm’ing brands" and "helping the woman stalking me" for attention
>Claims Tattianna made up the grooming rumour and accuses her of "Doxing" her by calling Lillees local police station says "All of this will be outlined in a legal suite"
>accuses Tattianna of "preying" on her and "exploiting me for money, and fame"
>accuses Tattianna of "Lying to the system”
by having an edited (to avoid copyright) version of the Laur response video in a video she made
>says "Before you said “FREE SPEECH” — Free speech is CNN. Is a news channel. Is a verified source. Is responsible beings who report news, and investigate primary, and secondary sources. This is the truth on copyright law: “Copyright protection is automatically granted as soon as original content is created.” no clue what she's trying to say here
>Claims she had no contact with Tatianna says "You did however go on my moms channel to attack her"
>Says "I lost a brand due to your misinformation…and I should be the one ranting. I didn’t" in her rant
>says "You proclaim you’re being stalked by me, and harassed. I have the proof of never contacting you. Did you know in court they will confirm this point?" I guess Laurs harassment of Tatianna doesn't count
>Accuses Tatianna of getting $3,000 From "the woman you banded with who stalked me" I assume she's referring to Dianne
>Says Tatianna "would of stole the money" If Laur hadn't asked about Tatianna's lawyer
>says "We get a letter from this lawyer, that demands we apologize to you publicly" "My mom called the firm. The woman on the phone was giggling, laughing— this firm is known for taking peoples money, and retainers are never given back. Interesting. So you were bamboozled again"
>Claims that Tatiana didn't want to legally resolve the situation
>Accuses Tatianna of "vandalizing my Everipedia" says "Your friends put that I was autistic, had downs, my teeth were ugly, I have greasy hair"
>Says the live Stream that Tatianna took the quotes of Lille saying she was Dating pheepy when she was underage was "stolen"
>says it was fair for her to ask her Fans to Attack Tatianna because Tatianna "DID THE SAME ON YOUR YOUTUBE COMMUNITY TAB"
>says "You turned this into “I told you to die.” No honey, I told the people who you palled up with, by association, to “get covid” and "After 2 years of this mental abuse, I snapped" also "You have only 1% of the fame level I have been slowly climbing. And yet…you can’t take any hit back."
>claims Tatianna "has no case Because nothing was done to her" Says the "case" she has against Tatianna "has MERIT"
>Accuses Tatianna of playing victim one again and "causing your own pain"
>ends it with a rant "you inflicted so much mental damage for me. This is a line in the sand. LEAVE ME ALONE. Go away, do your content whatever — KEEP MY NAME, off your tongue, and stay OUT of my lane!! Just do your content over there, far far away from me. Why is this so difficult for you? Be gone, be well, and LEAVE MY BEING alone."
God I hope this formats okay
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I’m the anon who uploaded the everipedia live stream. When I uploaded today it was the first time I’ve gone to the burner. Just in case we needed any more verification, Lillee is still lurking here. This is the only place I shared the link.
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I watched her newest live. She's talking about how Tatiana doxxed her parents first. No bitch. You're the one who posted their full names in your stupid bio on your creepy oversharing website.
Lillee just said Tatiana groomed her when she was 17 and Tatiana was 23.
People expect Laur & Lillee to be annoying, file copyright claims and dox but this is beyond their normal shenanigans. I don’t think Tatiana is overreacting.
imagine it the cyberbully guardian show did a reverse uno and had Tatiana as a "victim
" of LJ'a + Laur's white trash, Jewish-larping freakouts
even Laur's "lawyer" could add in a few xomments abt them kek
The time stamps may not be exact but they’re pretty close. Transcription included for those who can’t sit through Lillee’s terrible acting
>>Her grooming she put up my entire fucking livestream. What happened on my birthday she got me so nervous that I started just saying random stuff because I was 17 going on 18 I got so scared n she isolated me she was preying on me she was 23 she knew I was 17 and she was preying on me saying I was groomed and it really made me scared it scared me so much
>>I feel sad because I do have a big heart to see somebody like take advantage of me I was 17 when she recorded this like video I was 17 I was a minor and she was 23 she knew better to prey on me like that and sexually have thoughts of these weird things is like weird as fuck
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Creepshow is making a video
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Lillee thinks Tati's videos is the same as the January 6 attack on the Capitol.
Imagine being this narcissistic.
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Incredible door to body ratio
Lillee still doesn’t understand what grooming is and thinks any adult talking to a minor is grooming. She was trying to insinuate Tatiana had an inappropriate relationship using all the inflammatory language her middle school educated brain could yield…”prey” “isolate” “take advantage of”. She knew exactly what she was doing.
Just timeline wise how tf is a 23 year old Tatiana (isn’t she currently 22?) supposed to have contact with a 17 year old Lillee? Is she saying she’s only 17 now? >>819299
Creepshow has tripled the size of her channel since the last time she made videos on the attic duo. She’s also friends with much bigger content creators who aren’t going to take kindly to Lillee & Laur ‘s harassment. If Lillee thinks the callout accounts & tweens are mean, wait until Keem & Augie’s followers find out about Lillee.
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Someone commented on Lillee’s Malvie post a few weeks ago that she should use 6 Months Smiles and now Lillee is getting aligners. You have to use their dentist to get fitted so they can’t go to their regular dentist if they wanna be eligible for financing. Not that Lillee has a regular dentist.
When litigations are on hold, all parties are told to stfu about the case.
We all know LJ doesn't have a lawyer, let alone with all the things she said in her live, that would be enough for her own lawyer to sue her and Laur.
I don't know what LJ is trying to prove but she looks ripe for the psych ward.
Is anyone posting Lillee’s latest live on YouTube (the second one from yesterday)? I don’t want her to see my account but I would love to see the freak out. >>819331
Lillee is the one that has her dad’s name all over the place, along with the lies about which artists he performed with. That’s not on Tatiana or any other callout. Not doxxing when you put the info out publicly.
I'm amazed at how dumb the Trumann family really is. Even braces won't fix Lillee's teeth. She needs to get a referral to a maxillofacial surgeon because the scope of her misalignment won't be fixed by a mere orthodontist.
But yeah, let's do an at-home braces kit! It's only $80 a month instead of trying to save and play the waiting game with an insurance company to cover surgery and physical therapy so Lillee here can actually have a functioning jaw.
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Laur's basically claiming if everyone else doesn't shut up, she's not going to make peace with Tatiana. She still thinks she can bully all of this under a rug.
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And Tatiana is saying they aren't talking. Laur lies again
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Dees took her account off private and said Laur was lying.
Sage for tinfoil
I think it may have a lot to do with Lillee's jaw. We know she reads here, and it's been discussed multiple times that her jaw is malaligned. Now she claims that her dentist JUST discovered that her roots are janky and her jaw isn't properly aligned. I think they have probably worked out a deal with invisaline/smile pretty, and bad press could coat them the deal. Laur tells companies that Lillee is constantly harrased and bullied by liars, it is a major selling point on how she ropes brands in. When Lillee goes rogue and starts freaking out (it has to gall the shit out of her that everyone here was right about her jaw), brand deals go poof and they can get stuck in breach of contract lawsuits.
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Laur’s on the sock accounts talking shit about Shannon
My personal tinfoil is similar but they're trying to bring attention to themselves,draw people in and make Lillee look like the "good guy" because they plan to start a gofundme for the jaw surgery or Invisalign,
Invisalign isn't going to fix her jaw if it's as bad as she's saying and the way things are I seriously doubt they'd get sponsored A simple google search of Lillees name from whoever they would talk to brandwise would be enough for that also on top of that certain brands do their due diligence and vet influencers for Interaction, Follower count ect
but saying this they could be making these complete lies up as of right now INCASE they search her up and see this things + Lillees big sperg out and take that as fact and don't look into it any further
kek at Laur receiving a cease and desist and immediately leaving bad reviews for the lawyer online
also this girl has probably just made herself a target of Laur/Lillees current sperg rage why do so many people touch the doodoo?
She looks young(er than Lilee) and I'm assuming she wants to take the heat off of Tater as some heroic gesture…or clout but she"s geninuely upset for Tater >>819409
i think that's partially it–maybe some low-end tiktok company is offering but I also think it's a slightly delayed (like LJ) reaction meant to bury the cat abuse.
Maybe they donn't want some pet rescue to come knocking on their door to take their new cat (but idk if that's a real fear or not)
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There’s a recent review which seems suspicious as it mentions the exact amount Tatiana paid. Someone named Ahmed H comments on Laur’s facebook.
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Creepshow Art is posting on TikTok about Lillee
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If Lillee was looking for an increase in views from. Her freak out, she's finding it. And RIP to her comment filter. No way she has only 15 comments and they are all super positive "your such a inspiration".>>819446
Nice, looks like Creepshow is sticking to her guns about making another Lillee Jean video. Get ready boys, we have a storm a brewing and she's gonna be a doozy. Or Laur is just gonna pussy out because she's scared of Creepshow and the large drama channels and how much they will destroy her precious parrot.
>>819463>an increase in views
I noticed it last week >>818151
they are definitively buying views.
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If you didn’t know any better you’d think she was in jail
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Lillee updated the bio portion of her website and it’s pure fuckery.
ALSO IF HER DAD'S SIDE ALL ARRIVED IN AMERICA IN THE 1500S AS THE ~*~FIRST PPL IN PENNSYLVANIA UWU~*~ HOW IN THE FUCK DID JOHN (JEAN) KUTLER IMMIGRATE IN THE 1870S
also Germany took over all of France in the 1870s? Attic Academy clearly provided the best education.
LOL damn, just how old is Earl?>"oNE of tHE fiRsT peOpLE iN peNnsYLvaNIa"
Lillee has inherited Laur's desperation to be linked in any way with the tiniest crumb of "class" and "prestige," (apparently, having European ancestry is a major personal accomplishment that they need to bring up in every conversation.)
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Just a quick google search but I think I found grandma
Jean. Lillee can’t read
We know how well they research shit by all the incorrect people they’ve doxed. The people mentioned in her ancestry sperg probably have zero relationship to them.
Am I the only one who's just in awe of how horribly this is written? "wellknown session percussionist"; "first settlers (…), that came over"; "1500's"; "the settlers (…) are marked in an old Church book";"the German's took over"; "well known oil artist"; "with influence in maritime themes/Asian feudal art".
And that's not to speak of the weird phrasings ("Lillee Jean is the only child of their union" ew) and the overabundance of run-on sentences. Jesus. Periods and semi-colons exist, not everything needs to be connected with commas!!
I can't deal with Lillee reading the French version of John as the English Jean after claiming she'd done SO MUCH research.
You know the ship your ancestors came on was made of wood and the some of them fled due to vast amounts of wealth, but you don't know granny had balls.
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Is she going to hide her dolphin teeth behind a mask until she gets them fixed with Invisalign?
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A summary, as best as I can understand.
Don't forget Walter Matthau over in the corner, guys! She's related to a STAR
Lilee has cousins, right? since i'm pretty sure Laur has/d at least two sisters who were married.
Maybe they didn't have kids but I feel like one of them would. Why not actually reach out Lilee? Eap when you're so obsessed with ancestry rn (as if Laur would let her tho)
Damn, I wonder if they keep tabs on them just in case Laur dies or some shit + they'd have to help Lilee. Laur is totally the white trash sister no one wants to talk to
i'm also pretty sure Laur's parents are well-off, maybe highish middle class?
Honestly from Laurs general behaviour I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest of the family go out of their way to limit contact with her, marked her off as the Crazy Aunt/Sister
Has Lillee ever mentioned Cousins or anything? Like childhood memories with family camping or Christmas? From my recollection she hasn’t and considering she was taken out of mainstream and homeschooled,
I feel like she doesn’t know many people outside of her parents and grandparents,so she wouldn’t know who to contact and Laur would be happy giving up that information
That or it would destroy the fantasy tale of their “exotic, wealthy, jewish and pioneers of the new world” she and Laur are desperately trying to spin
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I can’t find any research showing this, everything on google says Invisalign can exacerbate TMJ. Lillee says she has a fitting appointment at the end of the week. Can’t wait to hear how her dentist is actually a CyBeRBooLy after he tells her retainers can’t magically make her peg teeth grow.
She lives in the middle of nowhere. The building just nearby seems abandoned. Is it a condemned window/door?
I'm not from the Queens but I doubt it looks like that even in remoted areas.
American. She only lived in France.
In French the name Jean is the equivalent of John. A French woman being named Jean is the equivalent of an American woman being named John. Has it ever happened? I guess it's possible, but it makes no sense and is ridiculous.
French anon here. Just want to say that Jean for a woman is the most ridiculous lie from the ancestry-drama. Especially from a woman living in the XIX century.
In France you had to register the baby's birth with the officiers d'Etat civil
who needed to AGREE and then validate the names.
They had full power to do so and if the name was ridiculous, inappropriate or even a foreign name, they would refused it right away and they would have named the baby THEMSELVES because parents were too stupid to came with a right name.
This is not like USA now, where irresponsible parents are allowed to name their kid North-West, Moonblood or Crimefighter.
In France, before the 12th of april 1966, french people could only name their kids from the calendar saints or antiquity names. Needless to say, names had to be gender correct.
The officiers d'Etat civil
would just have put Jeanne, Marie or Anne instead of Jean on the birth record.
Jean for a french woman: impossible. End of the story.
This thread is hilarious.
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Creepshow Art's video is apparently available now for members only, and she's going to be talking a lot about Lillee Jean's racism
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Did we really need confirmation? Lillee has never had a lawyer and will never get one. No lawyer would take this case with these 2 behaving the way they do. Lillee’s live-streams, them messaging Tatiana on multiple platforms after Tatiana and her attorney told them to stop…those actions alone are enough for Tatiana’s attorney to file criminal harassment charges. No attorney is going to let their client speak to Tatiana when she’s represented - lawyers talk to each other and they bill you for it.
I’m pissed for Tatiana. She seems genuinely beat down in this video. And it sucks for Laur & Lillee because Tatiana plays the victim
well. She’s cute, articulate and likable - all the things lil’ Jean will never be. This video, paired with CSA’s video on Friday is going to cause a lot problems for the attic duo.
If any anons have watched the livestream where Lillee falsely accused Tatiana of grooming her and desperately tried to lie about the situation to make Tati look like A villan>>819249
She is so fucking condescending, smarmy and fake in it
she has the exact same mannerisms/tone as those highschool mean girls that think they're better than everyone and get off on bullying, upsetting and mocking others, she even tried to sprinkle in the most fake "positivity" because she knew how awful she was coming off
Everything she accuses people of is pure projection she and her mother get off to Harrasing, Mocking, Doxing and straight up Bullying others but get this they can't even play the victim
well in the slightest because they are the most petty, spiteful, jealous people and it seeps through with any of their actions>>819732
Anon at this point they're the ones not leaving her alone sure she fucked up massively by making the mistake by touching the situation in the first place, but Tati HAS taken the videos down the last time she even made a video was here>>816164
Almost a month ago not to mention she deactivated her Twitter due to Laur and Lillees constant harassment and they went out of their way to find and continue Harassing her
Threatening her family and making up false claims of Tati doing the same shit they have been doing from the beginning: Attempting to dox people, actually doxing people, calling peoples places of work, making false police reports about people, contacting people families and genuinely cyberstalking people across multiple platforms
In all honesty Tati needs to leave the Internet until Laur and Lillee find the next person to try to pin everything on and stalk because that's what they do, they find someone to target, not someone too big who could actually retaliate in any meaningful way just someone they can attempt to scapegoat
yes Anon I linked it, it was almost a month ago maybe read before you reply
as I said her mistake of touching the Shit in the first place but for it to of been that long ago and for Laur and LIllee to just now respond and start making false accusations about Tati claiming she groomed Lillee and Doxed their family posting these false claims on multiple platforms with Tatis full name in it
You think that's an acceptable response?
Tatiana involved herself because it was a popular topic and it worked. She got a ton of new subs and views. Good for her. I doubt she had any idea how exhausting Lillee would be when she first started talking about her. At least she’s taking a break.
Anyone else feel like this may be the beginning of the end for Lillee? “Racist Fake Influencer Deplatforms PoC
YouTuber” hits differently than “Delusional Influencer Has Mom Yell at Ghosts on the Internet”. This was all Lillee. Her copyright strike, her IG message, her lies about being 17. Laur won’t be the main target this time and she doesn’t have dozens of sock accounts to use to protect Lillee.
Tbh I agree. I get it, they’re known nutcases at this point, but being an established lunatic doesn’t give you a pass to continue your lunacy around anyone who so much as looks at you. Don’t forget people like Lauren Elyse have been harassed/had their jobs threatened just for casually mentioning LJ in tweets.
Commentary channels should
talk about it, they’re crazy and brands should be made aware.
Eh, Steve Mcboomer will probably come to her defense if he thinks it will generate a few clicks to his youtube channel. Maybe even do another "interview".
He has never cared for Lillee and Laur, only for himself and his own exposure.
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She's poorly copying that Russian girl now. Don't know what the fuck she's doing with her hair though.
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Why does she do this with her shirts? She was wearing it normal through the entire video and decides to do this for the last minute? WHHHhhhhhhyyyyy
It's a makeshift bandeau top for pictures. If she was smarter, it might be so the color of her shirt doesn't clash with the makeup, so the color didn't reflect up in the pictures, so the photo couldn't be dated to a specific day if she did multiple looks, or some professional reason like that.
But, being Lillee Jean…it's got a mustard stain and is covered in cat hair that would show up in a picture, and she gets more likes on photos where she looks naked anyways.
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Lillee has written an article on medium about herself.
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What goes through her mind to think “hey, let’s post a picture of my cat licking my toes” seems like some sort of weird fetish
Tati need to get her lawyer on this stat, Laur and Lillee have just written an article FALSELY ACCUSING HER OF GROOMING LILLEE AND OTHER MINORS
this is straight up Defamation if Tati acts on this she has a clear case
also at anons wanting to report this you have to have an account on the site
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Only black woman wannabe and one I asume to be laur has reacted to the article.
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Here’s a backup
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For all those anons saying Tatiana should just leave Lillee alone, how has that worked out for Diane? She hasn’t made a video about them since July, her twitter account is private and she rarely mentions them. Now Diane is running an adult grooming cult, manipulating women to take Lillee down. Lillee won’t stop with this shit until she’s removed from the internet.
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Good job Lillee "I won't be silenced" Jean. They think Diane won't won't reveal her real identity to retaliate, and Lillee, who rants constantly about having her voice stolen, about how all of this is her choice, has delivered what she sees as the coup de grace to Tatiana. Not only has Tatiana been silenced by driving her off twitter and YouTube, but they are saying it was all Diane's idea and encouragement that lead Tatiana to be a successful creator. Lillee is taking her voice and success away
Lillee really feels like she's done something with this.
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Tatiana & Diane need to stay quiet and not respond at all. We’ve seen Lillee and Laur destroy their own reputation before but holy shit this is new low. And there is no way Lillee wrote the readable parts of the article. This has Chelsea Hoffman all over it.
>>819839>This has Chelsea Hoffman all over it
How much was she paid this time?
In this post LJ is supposed to have 1 million real followers. How would some haters matter if she had 1 million real fans.
Does she realize there are all over the net countless screenshots of her insulting everyone and videos wishing covid&death?
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I had to screenshot this masterpiece
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gosh, why she can't just be normal for a minute, i mean idk have a little more defined style i know it's very basic to say styles like E-girl, Ccore, Alt indies, idk or take part of them and dress well, make something of your life, show a little more of a more defined personality, not that weird mix of used victoria's secret clothes all stretched out and percuded, or costumes from the cheapest online store, i don't know, maybe even SHEIN two pieces outfit, something.
she obviously has laur's genes nightmare but she should wear clothes according to her body type.
I feel she should take care of certain aspects, like her hair,go for once to a hair salon and get a decent haircut.
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Oh God. Lillee thinks self posting on Medium makes her a journalist. Fuck guys, she's determined to lower the bar in every possible industry.
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Responses on her "article" about cyberbullying are hidden now?
"When you publish a story, you have the ability to hide specific responses that you don't want to see, or you can also close the discussion on your post so that no one can leave further responses on it."
So I think she deleted them herself because she cannot handle criticism of any sort.
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Of course she deleted them.
I screenshoted some of them.
First comments >>819828
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lulz she reinstated this one so her ~snappy reply~ would be public
This is why is pointless trying to talk to her. Her post isn't on the main Medium page, as this Anon said >>819845
no one but the farms are reading it.
Maybe just ignore her, the fact that she went on Medium proves no one is visiting her website.
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The return of holpblots
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I'm pretty sure Chelsea Hoffman, who is a cow in her own right, wrote medium articles about Lillee and her fake followers/boyfriend before she decided to join forces with them.
Laur and Lillee managed to get those articles taken down.
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Laur's mad the cops won't help Lillee Jean with her non existent case.
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who's gonna tell her theres a reason why people buy lashes specifically made for the lower lash line and dont just cut off the ends of actual lashes lmaooo
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this literally looks like a foundation shade - what does she mean ''a little red''?? how high up is her contrast
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Awwww yes just what everyone asked for, a Kermit the frog makeup look…. I swear she’s running out of ideas!!! How you have 13,000 subs and only popping 100 views in over an hour ???(don't use emojis)
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She could at least blow her nose before she starts filming.
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Saw this tiktok and thought it looked farmiliar. For reference, the tiktok was posted roughly 3 weeks before lillee posted her cheap knock off. One of these days, she's going to rip off the wrong person and have to deal with the consequences.
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(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
She's always got at least one bat in the cave in almost every video.
Its weird because she puts effort into photo shopping and having wigs and backdrops, buys followers ect, but always seems to have a flake of dandruff, oily hair or boogers around.
Nah people do actually do this for cosplay and stuff.
She's just rubbish at applying them.
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For those who have forgotten HolpBlots is a confirmed Laur sock that commented on the OG reddit thread, and was listed as the contact on a DMCA during the Dees saga. I believe there was a phone number suggested match too.
Also, this screenshot from hours ago.
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Lillee locked up her account
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Now they’re filing DMCA takedowns on twitter.
>>dark blond hair
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The say the Devil works hard but LJ and LT work harder trying to take down Twitter.
Tbh Im surprised I’m blocked all I did was like the memes of her and her moms dumb face.
They are insane lol(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Can we talk about the fact that lj put this picture on the medium post trying desperately to prove she was an accomplished MUA at 3 while eating a Claire's brush?
Also keks at the messy room.
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They are going on a crusade to suspend as many accounts as they can.
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Lillee removed most of the article has now has a link to her website.
Claire’s makeup often gets clocked for heavy metals. Smart to let a three year old chew on the brushes.>>820024 >>820011
Lillee and Laur must be panicking about the video Creepshow is putting out tomorrow. They usually lose their shit and start issuing false claims when they think a callout has discovered something new.
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She’s violating Medium’s spam policy by linking her website
The only people who liked the article was Laur and Chelsea Hoffmann and every comment was a criticism except the one from Laur.
Why does she feel like she needs to lie to this extent for her equally non-existing IG audience.
I’ve watched Shannon’s video and there’s nothing new in it. She goes in depth about Pheepy and how there is a REAL
diplomat named Philippe who is married and in his 60s. Making it very clear that Lillee’s Pedo Pheepy lie has the potential to impact real people.
There’s also a dog whistle at the end to all her commentary channel friends. Shannon lays out in detail how Lillee is abusing the copyright claim system, doxxing people and creating targeted harassment campaigns. Shannon reported Lillee on every platform (she doesn’t urge her subs to do the same, but we know they will take this as direction).
It’s not ground breaking and there’s nothing we don’t already know but it’s builds a solid case for why Lillee should be removed from Twitter, YouTube & Instagram. There’s no doubt Keem, Augie and John Swan will probably take up the anti-Lillee cause bc their dicks get hard over shit like this. Lillee is in for a rough time.
i'd feel bad if they weren't such psychos to other women esp those who aren't white
basically the trope "laser-guided karma" irl
Who dresses a kid like that? This is so embarrassing. Did she wear one single normal outfit during her life?>>820034
Attic Makeup Academy from NYC.>>820051>trying to act like she's the lead bitch from Mean Girls
Just want to point out that the lead bitch from mean girl was able to style herself, wear cute clothes, have friends and stay at school.
Lillee needs to try harder.
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Lillee’s filing twitter DMCA claims against anyone sharing anything about her.
One one hand, I almost feel bad for the shit storm that is about to roll over the Trueman household if Keem and other major drama/commentary channels lock on to Lillee Jean. Laur will absolutely shit the bed, and Lillee is dangerously unhinged right now. It won't be pretty and it may cement that Lillee will never have a career involving social media.
But…she's such a fucking hypocrite, trying to silence anyone who doesn't like her and acting like a 4'9" tyrant.
Let her eat cake.