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No. 1799203

This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).

"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming trannies or larping biological males (usually the former). Fakebois style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.

These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.

**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.** Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it.

Notable FtM-related subreddits:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM/
https://www.reddit.com/r/FtM_irl/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaytransguys
https://www.reddit.com/r/FTM_SELFIES/
https://www.reddit.com/r/FTMfemininity/

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No. 1799211

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Both the thread pic and title are funny af. WHERE MANIFESTO!?

No. 1799227

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>>1799125
sorry anon I'm fckuing rtadaded

No. 1799228

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>>1799211
The police ate audrey's homework

No. 1799229

Kek are nonnies really that surprised that an autist might like sports and actually be good at them? She clearly won the most athletic reward for a reason, she hasn’t shut up about her basketball days and still was shooting hoops. What’s the shocker that she actually got recognition for it? A lot of you are falling into the belief that autists are all fat and lazy, like Chris-chan.

No. 1799233

>>1799229
there were like 2-3 surprised anons because everything else suggested that she was the nerdy type, and she even looked like an ana-chan in some pictures. not related to her autism

No. 1799234

>>1799229
don't recall anyone mentioning she couldn't be sporty cos of her autism. it's cos in her younger photos she looked skinny, weak and nerdy + shy. not your typical sporty type, let's say. but clearly she was.

No. 1799238

>>1799233
>>1799234
Women don’t build muscle like men do, I wondered what everyone was going on about- I’m more of a stick then she was and I was sporty my whole childhood. Some people just look different, and women rarely look buff unless they are passionate about body building. Shy and nerdy women can enjoy sports too, it sounds like a bunch of people are surprised she didn’t fit a trope, but she never fit the trope for a school shooter either.

No. 1799242

>>1799229
"Most athletic"is a popularity contest, not a sports contest. At my school retards got awards like "kindest"

No. 1799245

>>1799242
Idk nona, school cultures can be different depending on location, whether it’s a public or private school, etc.

No. 1799248

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>>1799238
nobody expects sporty women to look like bodybuilding men, but even thin sporty women don't look like ana-chans. the ana-chan tinfoil wasn't even based on her body but her face in picrel.
>it sounds like a bunch of people are surprised she didn’t fit a trope
personally i can find only three anons being surprised by her getting the title >>1798783 and one of them is surprised for this reason >>1799242 so

No. 1799249

>>1799245
Any American nonas who had a retard win anything but "kindest" at her school please chime in

No. 1799255

>>1799242
At my school, there were kindness awards for the popular kids, kek. I suppose it’s truly different for everyone, I was so angry seeing my bullies when those stupid awards. I’d have preferred if the retards got them instead.

No. 1799257

>>1799248
Idk Nona, I think I took offence because I look like a Ana-chan but was sporty nonetheless, I just shit a lot. Maybe she has IBS?

No. 1799258

>>1799257
>>1799238
plenty of athletes are skinny or nerdy or whatever else, i don't think anyone isn't aware of that here. but when you're trying to build a picture of someone, sometimes things take you by surprise, when it deviates from a stereotype or whatever. nothing wrong with that in itself obviously. esp since this whole thread is based on the stupidity of stereotypes.
>Maybe she has IBS?
I hope she suffered with really really bad IBS

No. 1799259

>>1799255
Any friendless autistics winning most athletic though?

No. 1799260


No. 1799261

>>1799260
>Hale is now the third member of that team to die in the past eight months. All were younger than 30 years old.
wtf? cursed basketball team

No. 1799262

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picrel from audrey's linkedin. I never went to uni/college so I'm not sure… is this a normal amount of time to be to stay in school? 8 years at arts and crafts college seems a lot

No. 1799263

>>1799229
autists tend to be clumsy with low muscle tone so most of them don’t tend to be athletic

No. 1799264

>>1799262
My guess is she did a full time course, for part time. This is often made an option for disabled students in colleges where I live, and 8 years sounds about right. I could be mistaken, but this is my best guess.

No. 1799265

>>1799262
If your art comes out looking like hers did at the end of all of it, sure

No. 1799266

Can't believe nonas are in this thread defending the the veracity of high school superlatives. They are absolutely popularity contests, or pity awards for spergs

No. 1799269

>>1799259
Why are you so hung up on this kek

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No. 1799274

>>1799264
right, i guess that makes sense. cos my second question was gonna be "how the fuck did her parents afford to keep her there that long?" but if it's part time then I guess it amounts to the same.
i think spending that much time in school, especially the same school, and then having to leave and be almost 30 must have been part of what broke her though. might have been the only thing giving her structure all those years. then she had a lot of time on her hands to plot, kill and ruin people's lives, I guess.

No. 1799282

>>1799269
because some really stupid nonas keep insisting that winning "most athletic" in high school means she must have been super athletic when it obviously means that she had plenty of friends in high school (the only way to win a superlative) who are now all pretending they didn't like her. why is she being called a friendless loner autistic when she obviously was not?

No. 1799285

>>1799282
It could’ve been a pity superlative because of her autism. I don’t remember the popular kids at my school even caring about superlatives or yearbook shit at all.
Look at her nona, between her interests and how we’ve seen her interact with people.. I seriously doubt she was popular

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>>1799260
>>1799273
Holy fuck. This was an insane fixation. The part about her following the other girl to her car after the funeral to "hang out" and not grasping that she was supposed to act sad is extremely creepy. It seems like she did care about the girl who died though, due to her posts and drawings after her death, but must have been extremely autistic and doesn't process emotions the same way normal people do. This part (picrel) was also unsettling, it looks like she was obsessed with the team constantly through high school until her death at 28.

You show an autistic social outcast compassion once, and you're signed up for a lifetime of obsession. Like, what are you supposed to do? Be mean just so they don't attach to you? That feels cruel, but the outcome is so negative on your side and so positive on theirs, which makes for a very weird dynamic. I'm glad the autist who attached to me in middle school was not quite this intense.

No. 1799288

>>1799282
kek you're projecting your personal school experiences onto a tif shooter nona, are you okay? Most anons are saying that it's subjective and you can't tell what a schools culture is because theyre all different. They could have voted for her out of pity, because they liked her, or countless other reasons. Her friends calling her creepy and obsessive is more of an indicator of her personality than a vote she won.

No. 1799295

>>1799288
weird how literally one anon suddenly becomes "most anons"

No. 1799296

if someone you barely knew in high school turned out to be a school shooter would you be giving interviews about how weird she was? i wouldn't, and tbh i think the only people who would are fame-seeking

No. 1799299

>>1799296
I can picture the exact weird kids in my high school that everyone was wary of and if any of them did a school shooting, yes, I'd give an interview, because I have information that helps put the picture together. It's not weird. Who are you trying to defend here?

No. 1799301

>>1799296
Plus, since she was even partially a tranny, those people could get death threats, and who knows what else could happen to them if they don’t say that she was an Angel and a Saint.

No. 1799303

>>1799262
It's not common as a Bachelor's is normally completed in 4 years (some people take 5 or 6 years) but I have seen some people in my major and school taking 8 years including me

No. 1799304

>>1799301
Well then by your own logic, someone so self-serving would not give the interviews, dumbass. I don't know what your angle here but it's weird as fuck.

No. 1799306

>>1799282
what highschool did she go to? if it was some tiny christian school and she was a tomboy obsessed with basketball and sports, skating, etc not that surprising she could've gotten most athletic girl
she wasn't at some powerhouse public school that goes to states every year

No. 1799307

>>1799306
read the article >>1799260 it was a small school that didn't even have it's own teams for many sports, meaning she had to join other school's teams. So your theory makes perfect sense.

No. 1799309

>>1799296
yeah and i think that once you know that someone is a killer it's easy to suddenly feel like everything they did was a "sign" or was weird. but in this case she did seem weird and obsessive about some of her classmates though

No. 1799312

>>1799304
that anon wasn't me.

No. 1799316

>>1799306
that just convinces me even more that she was popular in school and the women giving interviews about her are just looking for their 15 minutes

No. 1799318

>>1799316
Ime sped kids were usually pretty popular even if they were autistic and didn't understand social cues.

No. 1799319

>>1799316
The girls in the article say she was shy but nice and good teammate back then.
All the weird/creepy stuff is from more recently when she kept showing up uninvited or sending them things.

No. 1799320

>>1799316
Anon it sounds like you're identifying to hard with the killer to be defending her this hard, it's seriously weird. You're actually mad that the women she stalked for years and barged in on their private events and funeral services dare to give an interview about those uncomfortable experiences? Why?

No. 1799321

No one would be infighting if this stupid manifesto would be released already

No. 1799326

>>1799316
Or these woman pitied a sperg in highschool, and are now able to tell everyone she was a creepy loser they were forced to spend time with

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she's listed as (3) on the 4x400 relay team that won the AA Tennessee state meet in in 2013

so I don't think she was one of the reserve runners but maybe she was

rare autistic person that is also athletic

No. 1799331

>>1799321
Really, like what are the odds that thousands of aidens (kek) will want to do the exact same thing she did? As if there weren’t many manifestos published everywhere, only an absolute retard would think that whatever a crazy fucker like that loser would say something to consider as a word of wisdom.

No. 1799334

I think it’s telling that she only graduated from college last year. Not being a student and having trouble finding work and dealing with my parents’ expectations was rough on me, personally, and I’m normal. Nothing that’s being described here by her teammates is anything unusual considering it was known this girl was an Aspie, but I wonder if not being in school and just delivering groceries all the time triggered a depressive episode. She might have started thinking about the only time in her life where she felt happy — middle and high school — and that caused a hyperfixation on those people she considered friends.

I still think something happened to her and that the church was involved. She wanted to kill her family, too. She planned this attack meticulously. She didn’t just snap.

No. 1799339

>>1799334
>She wanted to kill her family, too
she did? how do we know?

No. 1799343

>>1799326
that sure is the story they're selling.

No. 1799346

>>1799339
the cops said in their vague statement that she had plans to kill family, a mall, and another school
but her mom also said that she talked to her when she left home that day so it doesn't really make sense
compare to elliot rodgers who killed his roommates first then left

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this might be her, I think that's the MLK uniform and this was the only white girl that ran in the relay for them
if not she was a reserve and didn't run
https://files.catbox.moe/jbpzx6.mp4

No. 1799353

>>1799343
give it a rest, will you? You sound like a hurt autist who's insecure all the people who were nice to you in school could have been pretending. It's a common phenomenon (at least it was in my schools) to be nice to spergs in your classes while also being unsettled by their behavior, it's just common decency and conflict avoidance. It's not shocking that people are talking about some of those weird behaviors after the fact, especially the victims of her deranged stalking.

No. 1799357

>>1799326
This. It was probably uncomfortable for these women to have to set boundaries for the weirdo because they feel like it's a dick move. Now that she's dead and did something really disgusting, all bets are off.

No. 1799360

>>1799353
It was also common to pretend to have been besties with the kid who just killed himself. People who give interviews about school shooters are invariably fame-seekers. You'll see in a couple weeks when they're on tour.

No. 1799365

>>1799360
She only stalked the girls from her basketball team, that portion of the story is huge in putting together a picture of her mental state, so instead of the logical conclusion that these women went through some very odd and uncomfortable experiences with Hale just prior to her crime and feel obligated to tell what they know, you instead believe that it just so happens that they're all egotistical fame seeking drama lovers who concocted the story for media attention? You're entitled to your opinion I guess, but it's retarded.

No. 1799369

>>1799249
They’re called “Senior Superlatives” and they’re awarded based on votes. There’s usually a male and female winner. There was a “Most Likely to Succeed” title given to both one guy and one girl senior and it was awarded based on nominations and then student votes in a poll, not necessarily best GPA or anything. So her high school class elected her as the most athletic girl in the graduating class. There’s a yearbook spread with a little photoshoot for all seniors who win a title, which is why she’s posing in the photo — she probably didn’t even pick the pose, the yearbook club/class stages and photographs everything (for non-Americans who were curious).

No. 1799414

>>1799365
Both of you sound stupid. I beg of Nonnas to read a single thing about autism because the way you're using it as an explanation for any and everything is retarded. I've seen severely autistic kids and adults before and she's definitely high functioning. That was already mentioned by her parents but the anons here have amnesia and a strange hate boner for autistics. It seems like she was very normal and well liked in middle school but started acting strange recently. I don't think the people giving interviews are fame seekers as they were from a small town and this is a major thing to happen. I also don't think she was this caricature that was creepy all along. The fact that she had no contact with them until 2022 supports my theory. Look up the austin harrouff case. This sounds just like that. He developed psychosis in his first year of college and ended up eating a man's face killing him and his wife.

No. 1799422

>>1799414
The girl clearly said that she contacted her via social media after high school, but it was innocuous enough. She really went off the rails in 2022. Possibly she grew tired of being ignored by her and crashed her birthday party. She also picked up a new hobby- guns.
No one's saying autism is a sole reason, but she clearly was fixated on some random people on her high school team and probably felt hurt and angry at them for ignoring her all these years.

No. 1799425

>>1799422
We will have to wait then to see if they find evidence of her being a stalker. Actual obsession would look like stalking and ignoring boundaries. Someone who is being stalked will catch on pretty quickly. It's more about controlling the person than hiding and watching them like you see in movies. Austin also didn't just snap, he had been spiraling for a while.

No. 1799428

>>1799425
ntayrt but have you read any of this thread lately? she showed up uninvited to parties and private family events that she should have had no way of knowing about.

No. 1799439

>>1799428
According to some people who are extremely eager to give interviews about a school shooter and who are therefore incentivized to play up any and all interaction they had with her…

No. 1799441

>>1799439
Multiple people conspiring together to tell and corroborate the same stories, stories that showcase dynamics everyone even itt were already speculating were the case even before the interviews… yeah I'm sure that's it. You've really got a hateboner for everyone getting interviewed, it's bizarre. You'd prefer if nobody talked, huh?

No. 1799443

>>1799414
>strange hate boner for autistics
nobody's claiming that autism is the reason she became a school shooter, everyone's tinfoiling about possible "explanations" such as csa, graduating, religion, trooning out, her meds etc. it is true though that autism could explain some of her weird behaviors and it seems like people get offended when autists are portrayed as anything else than socially awkward geniuses even though some of them are obviously slow and obsessive like her, but it doesn't mean that it is true for everyone else on the spectrum.

No. 1799446

>>1799286
>It seems like she did care about the girl who died though, due to her posts and drawings after her death
Maybe but I’ve seen some autists get really into performative grieving over people they were only acquaintances with or not close to. I really wonder how close she and Sidney (rip) actually were and how much of this was for attention. Judging by the story where she showed up uninvited to a party, pretending to be drunk it seems like a pattern of behavior.

No. 1799453

>>1799439
Stop fangirling the shooter. She killed women and children.

No. 1799467

>>1799453
NTA but when you say it like that she sounds kind of hot. Let women live kek

No. 1799471

>>1799211
I'm so glad they picked anon's masterpiece and not some shitty pooner meme edit of the shooter, though it's appropriate that she made it in the title kek

No. 1799472

>>1799414
>strange hate boner for autistics
Does anyone who’s not an autist actually like autists

No. 1799474

>>1799273
>pretending to be drunk at a party she wasn't invited to
KEK. Peak autistic behaviour.

No. 1799476

Tinfoil incoming but…she probably had intrusive and controlling parenting. Probably was sent to counseling even as an adult and her parents probably felt justified because she was autistic. Plus counseling or therapy picked by parents just makes the counselor or therapist a totalitarian 3rd wheel to their parents agenda. Her interests probably all had to been approved first. Her wardrobe was probably only tolerated because it's normal to be a tomboy. It wouldn't be weird for parents to disapprove of their child's troonery but I think they probably disapproved of a lot more than just that. That and her interests are probably weird because of autism so they probably cracked down harder on her weirdness. Intrusive parenting explains why she collapsed on the inside while also explaining her innocently tame internet activity. Just imagine if 75% of internet activity was checked by her parents. She could probably get away with looking at winnie the pooh shipping because it's tame enough and all nuances are lost behind boomer dissonance. We can tell the figures on her window are holding hands but her boomer parents can't. She was just a sculpting project to show off to the world "Look everyone! It took hard long work but we cured her autism!" until their pet project got botched and bombed. She also doesn't seem to care if she got misgendered. She wants to be troon but is also just simply used to her wants being ignored. This is all happening on top of being a friendless obsessive outcast. She can't just run away. Her parents have the money. SHE herself is broke. Doubtful her art career is even promising. She has no friends so she can't roommate with anyone. She's just too dependent and socially inept.(sage your shit)

No. 1799479

>>1799472
Autists provide a lot of free entertainment how could you hate them.

No. 1799480

>>1799476
The tif who became a man

No. 1799481

>>1799476
I get Gypsy Rose Blanchard vibes. Not necessarily the Munchausen’s but the infantilization.

No. 1799483

>>1799476
I don't think her parents were controlling, I think they treated her like a child because of her autism. I see them letting her indulge in whatever she wanted, they were aware she had a gun (and mistakenly thought she sold it) and they let her live at home rent free, they bought her all her anime stuff and videogames. But giving your child every material thing they want and feeding them isn't enough if you aren't teaching them how to be a responsible adult. It really is a parent's job to teach their child how to survive, even if they have a disability, and they failed as parents there. Her autism wasn't even that bad that she wouldn't have been able to live on her own.

I think she went nuts after graduating college and losing the structure and routine school gave her. Not having anything to do, no friends, no job prospects, and isolation in her parents' house would drive anyone crazy. Maybe she was a bitter incel, and that hatred grew seeing her middle school friends live normal lives after college.

No. 1799486

>>1799467
>Let women live kek
Well, she did not

No. 1799556

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The mentality difference between TIFs and TIMs is just so indicative of the gender they were born as. If the situation were reversed and this individual were a TIM, he wouldn’t be caught dead in a support sub for dads.

No. 1799561

Is it plausible the Nashville shooter was actually born with CAIS? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

No. 1799564

>>1799414
Don't bother, nonna. The anons itt sperging about autism are spergs themselves or larping kiwimoids, kek. If we had more retarded discussion about muh foojos the trifecta would be complete.

No. 1799576

>>1799556
I'm very surprised r/breakingmoms supports tranny shit, they'll shit on random childfree women but a TiF confusing the fuck out of her children is all fine and dandy?

No. 1799587

>>1799443
It gets annoying because being obsessive over actual people is more BPD than autism and the slower they are the more toddler like they are. I'm not talking about liking childish shit but being actual toddlers in adult bodies who need lifetime care. Her being high functioning makes her autism basically a non factor. Bringing up pixy Terri and Chris Chan as examples of autism when they obviously were examples of what happens when parenting goes horribly wrong and sperging about autistics because anons don't believe that everyone somehow pitied a menace is what makes me say you have a hate boner.

No. 1799589

>>1799282
>who are now all pretending they didn't like her
Isn't it most likely to be the reverse? I'm not American and we didn't have shit like popularity contests and awards but back then in middle school people were pressured to be nice and fake friendly to the autistic kids even if said autistic kids were basically creepy stalkers and very violent and we had other friends anyway. Seems like her former classmates can finally talk about how fucked up she was all this time because she went too far and they're not in middle school anymore.

No. 1799590

>>1799589
Sounds like you were a doormat.

No. 1799591

>>1799587
I have a tinfoil theory that some nonas are bpd-chans who are happy that they get to dunk on someone else for once (I mean the whole site hates them), the hate seems very intense and personal.

No. 1799594

>>1799590
It's not me, it's out entire class in middle school that was forced to include the retards in everything.

No. 1799595

>>1799561
There's literally nothing that suggests that, don't be retarded.

No. 1799599

>>1799595
From the pooner memes to the tinfoiling and inability to read im now fully convinced this thread is infested with kiwifags.

No. 1799602

>>1799591
how is this a tinfoil. most anons are cluster b, a lot of them are autistic, almost all are rancid anachans or seething fatties. if you see nitpicking it's always personal

No. 1799608

>>1799439
Why are some of you nonnas so hellbent on not believing the interviews? Pretending to be nice to the weird kid for politeness sake and later having said kid develop unhealthy attachments is very common, especially if they're autistic.

No. 1799610

>>1799608
Some anons are being oddly spergy and taking it personally. We're gonna be stuck for a while until they release the manifesto, either she had a whole different persona she was hiding or it was obsession about childhood.

No. 1799613

>>1799453
Nonnie she is a woman, nobody will praise her the way pickmes and incels praise male school shooters.

No. 1799618

im surprised that no one is talking about the fact that those 3 children she shot were all children of the people who worked there.

She didn't go shooting random children, she specifically chose the ones from the people who worked there.

Idk why many people are ignoring this.

No. 1799620

>>1799618
This is the first time I hear the other two kids were related to employers as well.

No. 1799623

>>1799618
if that's true, it has to be a coincidence
i mean i don't know the details yet but how could she find those children distinctively among the classrooms and other kids. I just haven't heard yet that there was time or effort to deliberately target people

No. 1799626

>>1799576
Mods enforce the very “progressive,” “support all pronouns” neoliberal thing all of Reddit is known for.

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don't scroll

No. 1799636

>>1799623
we know she had maps, a plan and surveilled the school beforehand so I think she knew which part of the school (and possibly which people, if she knew what class or staff rooms to look for) she wanted to target. even though the reports say she was planning to target other places, she still had plans drawn out for that particular school. if she just wanted to kill randomly she could have burst into the school and shot anyone on sight, but instead she plotted and trained at gun ranges for a long time before the attacks and seemed to be searching once she got inside the building.
my feeling is that it perhaps wasn't totally random and some of them were deliberately targeted

No. 1799639

>>1799618
It's a tiny private Christian school with a student population of around 200 kids.

I guarantee that at least 1/3rd of the kids going there have some family member in the faculty or school board. That's just how those schools are.

No. 1799668

>>1799556
>Hearing my daughter being confused as fuck brings me joy

What a selfish cunt. Typical spicy straight hetty betty narcissist, the trans"men" who get pregnant are the most insufferable of all.

No. 1799680

>>1799608
The solution is simple. Never be nice to a sperg.

No. 1799749

>>1799476
my first impression was narc/enmeshed parents, p sure you're right anon

No. 1799755

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just speculating… in all the photos where she is posing for special occasions (family gatherings, graduation etc.) she is wearing these hair bows. I get the feeling her mum made her wear them, or bought them for her at least. Or maybe she just went through a phase of liking the ringlets + bow look. But i can just imagine the mum encouraging her to look more "ladylike" which might have played a part in her fucked up ideas about what being a woman means.

No. 1799765

>>1799755
To be fair, she just looks like a retarded girl. No question in my mind she was severely autistic and stunted, mentally and emotionally.

No. 1799774

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She pulled the fire alarm to get more victims. She didn't target anyone. She was sick and just wanted to kill little kids. https://www.thedailybeast.com/nashville-shooting-radiant-9-year-old-evelyn-dieckhaus-led-classmates-to-safety

No. 1799784

>>1799618
it was a very small school, a lot of the kids who went there were probably children of staff members. i dont think it necessarily means anything unless the manifesto ends up saying otherwise.

No. 1799786


No. 1799794

>>1799755
She's autistic, like Chris-chan wearing that Sonichu medallion.

No. 1799795

File: 1680285120842.png (8.45 KB, 598x256, shutup.png)

"Cis people don't typically wish they could be trans" People in general know they can wear a random piece of clothes not meant for them and still be their own sex, tucute.

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No. 1799819

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>>1799799
>KF
Do yourselves a favor and spare the KF thread, it's full of retarded OT scrote ramblings, larping and shit like picrel, Coomer moid shit.

No. 1799828

>>1799819
Jesus christ I hate KF moids

No. 1799829

>>1799819
>furry
imagine my shock

No. 1799841

>>1799328
she probably liked the script, structure and teamwork sports provide, like how male spergs like having a default role in a hierarchal organization like the military.

No. 1799844

>>1799334
she probably has parents that don't believe in high functioning autism and had normie expectations for her. it is extremely difficult to get a job without social connections

No. 1799849

>>1799755
Have her parents made any kind of statement yet?

No. 1799852

>>1799844
Especially if you're a retarded girl who draws extremely subpar Lion King fan art, and harbors murderous fantasies about children.

No. 1799860

>>1799799
Cesspool of a thread. They were even raging at Syd's sister and calling her slurs for asking people not to claim the shooter and her sister were "lovers". Incel solidarity, I guess.

No. 1799861

>>1799795
"If watching everyone lovebomb us makes you wish you could also get love and attention for doing nothing all day, just join our cult and we'll lovebomb you too!"

No. 1799870

>>1799286
>>1799273
holy shit I have a stalker just like this. i'm kinda concerned now lol

No. 1799877

>>1799795
>If you feel like being trans is a social contagion, yeah! It really is a social contagion! Join your trans friends! Otherwise you may not really be their friend!

No. 1799884

File: 1680293157738.png (453.9 KB, 597x738, hormonead.png)

This tweet and pic reads like a cutesy ad aimed at kids. Comparing taking an unnatural amount of hormones to fashion.

No. 1799888

>>1799795
I don't think Jehova's witnesses are even that blatant and aggressive when recruiting new believers.

No. 1799890

>>1799755
She has the smile of a non-binary luggage thief.

No. 1799903

>>1799884
aww testosterone is so cute! I love how it makes people more aggressive and causes irreparable damage to women's bodies. adorable. definitely one of my favourite fashion trends.

No. 1799905

>>1799884
So they admit being "trans" is all about fashion and outer appearance and not "male/female brain" trapped in the wrong body.

No. 1799910

>>1799884
i like how her transitioned self is identical to her pre-transition self in the button up shirt. nah, tell the truth. you're advertising male pattern baldness, a collapsed uterus and tit chop scars lol

No. 1799912

Do you think they are deliberately waiting until this trans visibility day was out of the way before releasing the manifesto? They've had 5 days to check through it now, I think it's just a timing thing

No. 1799913

>>1799912
Trans visibility day is basically everyday according to these permanently online losers, so I think they just don’t want to release whatever gibberish she wrote.

No. 1799914

>>1799912
Since it's speculated that the manifesto was some kind of journal instead of just one letter I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't publish it because there are names of specific people in it from the killer's personal life. We saw a few former classmates' interviews, and some of them didn't let the news give their full first and last name when publishing their articles so that could be to avoid putting random names in public. It's really just a guess.

No. 1799916

>>1799914
I actually hadn't thought of that but it makes sense, especially considering how obsessive was about certain people

No. 1799945

>>1799884
So she had no sense of identity until she took drugs that give an initial rush that can feel euphoric due to the feeling of power and aggression? Ah yes, must be the trans part of the fashion that helped

No. 1799970

>>1799260
>Hale is now the third member of that team to die in the past eight months.
wtf
why are they trying to connect dots with this

No. 1799976

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No. 1799979

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both are the NYPost lol. Says a lot about the troonism movement.

No. 1799983

>>1799979
Rules for me but not for thee.

No. 1799989

>>1799912
It’s not coming out. The feds don’t publish manifestos unless it’s in the public’s interest. like the unabomber.

No. 1799990

>>1799819
why the fuck do they have to sneak their nasty fetishes in every little thing they say.

No. 1799993

>>1799576
off-topic but their unabashed seething and thinly veiled jealousy towards childfree women is one of the funniest things ever to me

No. 1799995

>>1799993
I don't think anybody is jealous of people maladjusted enough to treat not reproducing as a substitute for a personality

No. 1800001

>>1799995
so you're one of them kek

No. 1800006

>>1799976
I wish this wasn't connected to Matt Walsh. When will sane liberals speak up against the death cult? It shouldn't be radical to oppose transing and sterilizing children.

No. 1800008

>>1799483
It's obvious that mentally she couldn't stop lingering on childhood, whether from autism or csa or being a lonely loser adult (this I relate to, it's common to even have dreams that you're still in school around those people), or all three. She was obsessed with that phase at that school playing basketball up to the age of 28 years old, that's a long time to live in the past. It seems plausible to me that when Syd died, this girl who was a piece of her childhood, it shattered the obsessive illusion for Audrey. Maybe she snapped because she was just that stunted and attached to a phase of her life that was finally cemented as being over and gone. I think she was spiralling already and it drove her crazy.

No. 1800010

>>1799884
This is so sinister. I know she has the most punchable face irl kek.

No. 1800015

>>1800006
matt walsh has just piggy-backed off of all the research brought forward by women and now has become the fucking face of being gender critical. and straight up turned it into transphobia, mixed with sexism and homophobia.
it's sad that detransitioners have to rely on right-wing media or moid tranny-haters to amplify their stories but even when feminists and left-wing people create space for that to happen, they are "exiled" and called nazis. I do feel like the tide is starting to change though. I hope.

No. 1800017

>>1800006
You get Jesse Singal and Glenn Greenwald (is he still sane?)
>>1800015
The Matt Walsh thing is very unfortunate, every one of his mannerisms are skin-crawling and oily.

No. 1800027

>>1800015
It's so sad that the left and centrists are basically being held at gunpoint so they don't criticize TRAs, all anti-tranny shit on YouTube is mixed with conservative or straight up right wing ideology. Can't blame feminists for not speaking up tho, every day troon threats online are scalating more and more into actual violence.

No. 1800048

File: 1680309193003.png (773.78 KB, 1012x673, prisha.png)

sorry if this was already posted recently. a 25 year old woman named Prisha Mosley is detransitioning. her story is like a checklist of almost everything that makes a girl vulnerable to this trans ideology.
“I thought womanhood was unsafe before ever experiencing it. I was afraid of a life I hadn’t tasted yet."
>difficult childhood
>found solace online speaking to adults who groomed her into trans shit
>diagnosed with ROGD at age 12
>“I literally hated every aspect of who I was and what I was and what I looked like”
>sexually assaulted at age 14
>enjoyed the attention, compliments and "support" she got when transitioning
>history of self harm and anorexia
>mastectomy on her 18th birthday
>now has detransitioned but lives with vaginal atrophy and vocal cord pain

https://nypost.com/2023/03/15/why-teen-girl-who-became-a-trans-man-is-now-a-woman-again/

No. 1800078

File: 1680311171672.jpg (39.05 KB, 596x652, Untitled.jpg)

i don't love jack krauser or anything, but trannies are so fucking funny thinking they could ever look like him.

No. 1800081

File: 1680311347952.jpg (68.87 KB, 912x1016, FsdlWvyaMAE4MWI.jpg)

the delusion to not only draw it but mod it in yourself

No. 1800087

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Tif art is so viscerally disturbing. It’s like looking at those paintings by schizophrenics.

No. 1800093

>>1800078
>>1800081
Take it to the transwashing thread >>>/m/235564

No. 1800112

>>1800093
Didn’t know this existed thanks anon

No. 1800152

>>1799870
Just don't die and everything will be fine.

No. 1800161


No. 1800267

>>1800087
it was only after i peaked that i realised how MUCH double mastectomy scars are fawned over in art/fanart. they're treated the same as a gay pride pin. people are obsessed with them, they make trans versions of those candles of womens bodies and compare the scars to the art of adam and God's hands almost touching. it's sort of mindblowing how much trans stuff is treated like a religion with top surgery scars being like a test of allegiance.

No. 1800271

File: 1680319493058.gif (1.94 MB, 245x246, 1496103141007.gif)

>>1800267
And most of the time they have nipples or are fully healed or isn't too noticeable, yet they still draw female body with wide shoulders and narrow hips like… a man?

I swear these people have too glorified it that do not even think how it is in the case of breast cancer. Women lose everything, cannot feel nothing in the chest and they feel they lost something big for an illness.

(I know is not the same, but knowing that due covid pandemic some trannies whined that cancer patients had priority over their surgeries, I do think tif see a sad woman with no breasts and think "God I wish that were me").

No. 1800275

>>1800048
this is more tragic than milky. It clearly states it was grooming and trauma, common pattern with young TIFs, whereas ROGD adults are more attention-starved and retarded in their life choices. At least she's got the self-awareness to snap out of the madness despite the damage done. There's a ton of these stories out there and not enough awareness given TRAs spread bullshit "only 0.4% ever detransition and they do it because of unsupportive families" statistics. I'm sure I saw a thread talking about detransitioners somewhere but it's pretty dead.

No. 1800278

>>1800271
The male body is "gender neutral", divine, and godly. The female body is slutty and low-class. Trans rights is really a MRA movement.

No. 1800288

>>1800278
I've legit seen TIFs and "enbies" say this kek. I think it's because in modern clothing, you can easily cover a dick and balls up with pants but boobs are more visible on the body, so they project their flat chested yaoi twink fantasy on androgyny ignoring that males can also develop swollen breast tissue and that it's not particularly uncommon (gynecomastia) especially if they're chubby/overweight.

No. 1800292

File: 1680325843665.jpg (Spoiler Image,44.39 KB, 633x767, m4nrb15cwk991.jpg)

I've seen pics of newer TIFs that got "keyhole" surgery for breast removal and looks really good in terms of scarring.
Silver lining if it can be offered to breast cancer patients.

No. 1800297

>>1800288
Sage for blog but I have c/d cup and I remember when a yaoi fan called a female character from an anime we both loved a "slut" because… She has big breasts, like me. Yet she was strong and she didn't no one touch her without her permission and even beat any man that dared to hug her. Why was she "slut" because she loved to show cleavage, that's something still haunts me.

So I'm not surprised when yaoi fans want to be twinks with flat chest because having breast is "slutty" or "too feminine", when you can be androgyny with breast (see Shirley Manson).

No. 1800298

>>1800278
>>1800288
Kek in my language there are no gender-neutral pronouns and all words are gendered so local enbie girls just use the male-gendered ones and lose their shit when you point out how they are "problematic" for insisting that the male should stay the default.

No. 1800300

>>1800292
I have to admit that surgeon did an amazing job. Sadly is one in one hundred.

>>1800298
Spanish is based as fuck too, but people are whining that we should use "e" for a gender neutral when there are words with e that ARE gender neutral (estudiante, dibujante, jefe, conserje, etc).

No. 1800302

>>1800292
Them wonky ass nipples, I hope the cancer patients can get it done better so it resembles a human chest and not like pin the nip on the tranny

No. 1800304

File: 1680328503741.jpg (Spoiler Image,120.54 KB, 1293x929, scars-300dpi-1-03a3ef870d5e4b1…)

>>1800302
Each time I see pic related cannot understand how TIFs can see it and think "that won't be my case". Girl, surgeries are dangerous as Hell in the wrong hands. For every good photo, there are tons of failures.

No. 1800308

>>1800304
this looks like an older woman after breast cancer surgery. not exactly applicable since you can't be artful when cancer is involved, you have to cut out anywhere it is. Not saying some aiden tit chops don't look horrific but posting that pic is in bad taste imo.

No. 1800315

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No. 1800316

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Heh, love how quickly they backtraced.

No. 1800320

>>1799914
Couldn’t they just redact the names?

No. 1800327

>>1800297
Like almost everything to do with extreme/exclusive yaoi fans which happen to be TIFs, I think it's just shame over the female body/female sexuality tbh. Everything a female character does is proof she's a "slut" that needs to be sequestered away from their precious gay babies to them. And then you hear or read the type of shit they say and you're just like, "we're girls too you know." Like how are you talking so hatefully about the female body or natural female body parts? And it reflects on their view of themselves - look how many of them want to get their tits chopped off because to them the mere presence of breasts makes someone a slut. Internalized misogyny at its finest.

No. 1800330

>>1800327
Ironic, considering actual gay men are the biggest sluts of all kek

No. 1800331

>>1800330
Yeah, gay guys irl are actually slutty and disgusting as fuck which is why most TIFs are "t4t". Since yaoi is written by and for women, it mirrors a straight or lesbian relationship more. The "gay trans men" project themselves onto the yaoi guys in the same way transbians project themselves onto yuri. The mental gymnastics and autism required for that are beyond my abilities. Having to project yourself onto a member of the OPPOSITE sex in order to enjoy fiction just reeks of shame to me.

No. 1800333

File: 1680336125650.jpeg (76.27 KB, 1194x519, 4AD17236-3117-4258-A72F-B05357…)

>women aren’t people

No. 1800335

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A Fujoshi mutual of mine trooned out.

No. 1800336

>>1800333
I hate that I feel like a boomer when I say this but I fucking hate the idea of these people being teachers and indoctrinating kids. It makes me want to scream. Plus they are constantly bragging on TikTok and other socials about it which makes it more infuriating

No. 1800338

>>1800320
Yes I was assuming that they could be doing that right now and that it could take time because of how many people are mentionned or something like that. It's a piece of evidence so in that case maybe they're also trying to contact these people to ask for testimonies and understand the situation and Audrey's state of mind and motives for the murders. Who knows.

No. 1800341

>>1800335
I've been butthurt about it too but now I just accepted that this is how autistic/non-normie girls are. Once the troon trend is over they will have something else. But for now it's trooning out.

No. 1800343

>>1800333
Ugh, I hate people like this so much. Rather then contemplating why I don't feel comfortable about being a woman and pushing back at gender stereotypes and expectations, I'll just say I'm not a woman at all! Truly a great lesson for the kids.

No. 1800362

>>1800335
I'm sorry nona. I've always felt that once someone troons out their entire character changes for the worst and they become unbearable to talk to, are always on the defense, become emotionally and intellectually stunted, and start looking down on you for being a woman and treat you with downright disgust even

No. 1800372

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Audrey was 100% molested. Still no excuse to kill minors.
https://www.courthousenews.com/church-accused-of-covering-for-molester/

No. 1800378

>>1800372
Yeah idgi. Molested by men and so kill adult men? Sure. Blast the pickme female admins or teachers who probably admonished her and shamed her? Why not.
But she shot children. Little girls who faced the same vulnerabilities she did. She is a monster. And no tragic cool fucking backstory can redeem her for that.

No. 1800385

>>1800372

"Childlike obsession with being a child"

More like a disgusting pedophile's obsession with children. Victims of childhood abuse stop being owed even an iota of sympathy the second they THEMSELVES START VICTIMIZING CHILDREN

I'm getting sick of autists being given free passes. Bring back asylums.

No. 1800391

>>1800385
Women with severe autism and mental issues clinging to childhood because they had less responsibilities and worries isn't the same as pedophilia you absolute fucking retard. stop sperging with caps on too faggot

No. 1800394

I saw a nonna in the previous server mention the pooner server. I lurked in there for a few months and have some good dirt if anyone is interested. Unfortunately didn't think to take any screenshots so you'll have to take me at my word.

No. 1800395

>>1800394
previous thread*, my bad

No. 1800398

>>1800378
>Blast the pickme female admins or teachers
How the fuck do you know they were ”pick mes”? I can’t fucking believe anons are justifying murdering women because ”they were probably pick mes anyway”

No. 1800402

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I posted the wrong image but here's Twitter radfems pranking tifs on spaces. I'll post the videos next.(racebaiting)

No. 1800403

File: 1680349321196.webm (2.37 MB, 480x582, RXLJpCaqhNxwcPxg (1).webm)

Part 1.

No. 1800404

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Part 2.

No. 1800406

>>1800398
Nayrt but learn to read. She described a hypothetical situation, not what happened.

No. 1800407

File: 1680349594931.webm (1.24 MB, 480x626, ikOZU3iGH8rtsyU3 (1).webm)

Part 3.

No. 1800409

>>1800406
starting to think all the "can't believe anons are saying X" posts are just one anon who cannot read and immediately jumps to moralising

No. 1800421

>>1800406
nta yes it's hypothetical but she wrote it like it would have been understandable, unlike killing children because that's where she draws the line at lol. you don't do this to people just because they're pick mes, it's still unhinged and still not a tragic cool backstory that can redeem her

No. 1800423

>>1800403
kek as long as you cloak racism, sexism and homophobia in woke language, then it's 100 and solidarity fist

No. 1800430

>>1800421
in this hypothetical the female admins/teachers are be enablers (as pickmes tend to be), and enablers are just as deserving of the same fate as the abusers themselves, frankly.

No. 1800434

>>1800320
If they release they will redact the names but there's no way the manifesto will be made public. The haven't done that for a while now with mass shooters because it gives them notoriety and a fanbase. Just look at what happened with columbine. They released literally everything (except the filmed manifesto) and now those two faggots are mainstream pop culture icons

No. 1800436

>>1800385
Where's the evidence that she was a pedophile??? Does every adult who obsesses over Disney fall into this category? Be serious dumbass.

No. 1800440

>>1800436
NTA and I'm not saying she was a pedo, but not every adult who obsesses over Disney fantasize about being a child and shoot up children. Sounds like a tinfoil among others, retarded or not. I swear we've had anons say this for everything "oh you think all gnc/autistic/childish/etc people are like this???", the answer is obviously no lol

No. 1800444

>>1800327
>the mere presence of breasts makes someone a slut

It has to be this, doesn't it? Maybe this is the end result of our porn saturated internet (which disgusting conservative men crying about tit-chops are also responsible for)

The constant sexualization of a body part you can't hide with clothing. The constant shame of seeing breasts that are too big on you (when you're not a slut!) sagging, misshapen, "useless bags of fat" that cause perverted men to treat you like shit. Society has given girls and women an easy medical solution, no critical thinking required. This might be the most misogynist modern era, I hope the tide changes soon because it's suffocating.

No. 1800447

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>>1800440
I think you should see picrel

No. 1800448

>>1800440
It doesn't take a masters degree in psychology to figure out why a (alleged) female csa victim would have trouble getting over her childhood and unable to dress and act like an adult

No. 1800454

>>1800444
You clearly have never experienced dysphoria in your life. Which is a good thing, but outside of enbies this is blatantly fucking untrue kek
Imagine waking up, and seeing a woman's body and hearing a woman's voice when all your memories have a man's body and man's voice. The terror is something nobody should experience.
Honestly, trooning out should be the very last resort, if allowed at all, but at least try to understand the mental disorder and don't pin it all on the opposite sex. I get that we're all terfy but there's a point where it comes off borderline scrotish.

No. 1800455

>>1800454
>Imagine waking up, and seeing a woman's body and hearing a woman's voice when all your memories have a man's body and man's voice.
Nta but what does this mean? How can you have memories of a mans body and voice if you were never a man?

No. 1800459

File: 1680356888576.png (Spoiler Image,504.07 KB, 1002x638, furry account.png)

spoiler for furry shit. but has this been shared here yet? some people are adamant this was Audrey's account but i am skeptical. first, that she would use her full name (albeit her TIF name) and second, it doesn't fit with the rest of her art-style.
archive here: https://archive.is/mhjjC

No. 1800461

>>1800454
>at least try to understand the mental disorder and don't pin it all on the opposite sex

A mental disorder that appeared in the past 15 years. Just like anorexia, sexist media created by men and male sexual perversion is the cause of this disorder. Not "pinning" anything, this is the truth.

>Imagine waking up, and seeing a woman's body and hearing a woman's voice when all your memories have a man's body and man's voice.


You're speaking nonsense.

No. 1800462

>>1800455
It's moreso hyperbole than anything, but dysphoria can first be spotted at puberty and properly diagnosed only after it's done. I'm extremely tired and probably making 0 sense, but it's like your head was transplanted to another body, and you have no recollection of that, or your voice, and every time you get called your legal name or referred to by your sex, it's confusing at best.
Not condoning trooning out or trying to derail, but in most cases misogyny has nothing to do with it, and in the cases it does they're usually enbies, not fakebois, and never trutrans.
But to wrap this shit back, we need a containment thread or ban on the shooting. It feels like Kiwi scrotes are half the posters and tinfoils are annoying, honestly.

No. 1800464

>>1800447
I mean, my point exactly was that the difference with other adults who like childish/cute stuff is that they don't act like children or kill children. These two things are the reason why anons tinfoil about her other behaviors which would usually be normal (or just spergy). These tinfoils should not be taken personally.

No. 1800465

>>1800462
Lmao. Your newfaggotry is off the charts. Misogyny has all to do with this, fucking read the threads, no such thing as born in the wrong body.

No. 1800466

>>1800462
>but it's like your head was transplanted to another body, and you have no recollection of that, or your voice, and every time you get called your legal name or referred to by your sex, it's confusing at best.

I've never heard a TiF describe dysphoria like this, and even the women who get their tits chopped don't talk about having memories from being a man, this sounds like an episode of psychosis. Where is your source?

No. 1800470

>>1800466
>sounds like an episode of psychosis
i thought the same thing. if someone is having memories of things that never happened then gender should be the the least of their concerns.
>>1800462
>dysphoria can first be spotted at puberty
dysphoria is usually described as not feeling comfortable in one's body. like their identity doesn't match what they see in the mirror. it's extremely common among those going through puberty (in fact almost all women I know have described this), and particularly common among people who are autistic/adhd/ocd and has a huge overlap with anorexia. if you're at the point where you don't recognise your name or memories, then that sounds like a seriously mental health issue. the treatment of which does not involve hormones or surgery.

No. 1800471

>>1800466
My source is personal experience. I didn't troon out, but I feel like if I felt this exact way, of worsening intensity for over 10 years and had a GID diagnosis for 3, and tested negative for schizophrenia on multiple occasions, it was relevant. I also have Autism and OCD on top, diagnosed for 12 years, so I have no doubt they both make the symptoms more severe.
I was just trying to shine some light on how it feels, I did not mean to start a fight nor did I mean to derail, I merely saw an incorrect detail and tried to correct it. I apologize

No. 1800476

>>1800471
Theres no disorder that justifies looking into the mirror and thinking you're a worthless useless whore who's only good for choking on a thousand cocks a day because you're female and look like a woman. Get over yourself

No. 1800477

>>1800471
Ok, but have you ever thought that our sources are also personal experiences besides all the stuff posted here, and you go telling us we're scrotish for knowing that the exact cause of our wanting to troon out are the men? Porn is made by men, for men, and it sexualizes us, imagine growing up to that? I mean, you don't have to, right, you probably experienced it. Every boy you meet at school will probably have watched porn already and he will sexualize your growing body, of course girls will be uncomfortable with that and just try opt out of womanhood because we don't "identify" with that crap pushed onto us, and want to be seen as human, then you have the trans community basically reinforcing gender stereotypes "girl pink, spinny skirts, long hair, makeup teehee so bimbo", they make woman to be a set of impossible expectations and harmful stereotypes and man to be human, with emotions and varying interests. So you feel uncomfortable with your shape, your growing breasts, all the expectations, then the path is clear "I am not a woman after all."

No. 1800479

>>1800462
>misogyny has nothing to do with it
but you're calling us scrotes? kek

No. 1800484

>>1800459
It doesn't look like her art style and the name is not that uncommon, I think it's someone else

No. 1800485

File: 1680360729116.jpg (48.77 KB, 539x541, 1680007321312676.jpg)

So it begins.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1800489

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No. 1800493

>>1800489
…So did they win?

No. 1800494

>>1800493
Someone on Twitter said they lost 1-8. Wonder why…

No. 1800495

>>1800489
What the fuck is with all this 'trans joy' shit, is this the version of euphoria that's more palatable to normies or something?

No. 1800496

>>1800494
could've guessed as much

No. 1800498

>>1800495
I've seen that fakeboi Ezra use it a lot, "celebrating queer joy" I feel like she is the female version of Dylan Mulvaney, a tranny that is palatable to normies so I do think you're onto something. It's like the FTM version of "days of girlhood"

No. 1800500

>>1800454
>>1800462
>all your memories have a man's body and man's voice.
You have been treated as a woman and girl all your life. That is the only perspective you can know. You can never be a man "on the inside" or have a "man's head". Even afer transitioning, you're experiencing life as a woman trying to look/be treated like a man. If you "pass", you have a woman's experience of pretending to be a man, going through any number of hoops and procedures to make it more convncing, and knowing that you are misleading people up until they notice some "tell", or they are informed. No man has this experience. If you truly feel like your head was "transplanted onto another body" in some metaphysical sense, you may suffer from schizophrenia or another disorder that results in delusions. If you feel this as physical discomfort, you likely have some kind of sensory processing disorder.

No. 1800501

>>1800454
>Imagine waking up, and seeing a woman's body and hearing a woman's voice when all your memories have a man's body and man's voice.

Most of the time TIF think they're kawaii twink gay boys so… No. Next.

No. 1800502

File: 1680364336812.jpg (1.17 MB, 1148x1295, 3rd-place-celebration.jpg)

>>1800494
Same image then.

No. 1800503

>>1800500
Long story short, the outside of you IS the REAL YOU and nothing that's inside your heart actually matters. If you can't accept that people perceive you in ways you don't want, you're going to kill yourself. If you're invested in making sure people address you a certain way, you are a narcissist. Your identity is not something that lives inside you. It's something formed by you in conjunction with the people around you. If a tranny is alone on a deserted island, who do they have to preform their gender for? No one. Because it's all a social delusion for the self obsessed.

No. 1800505

>>1800494
Can someone actually explain to me why a whole group of tifs put themselves into an intentionally humiliating situation? Also any team of men willing to compete against women gets the sideeye from me for being cowards looking for an easy instant win or a chance to large scale humiliate them. Which is exactly what happened here. So embarrassing on so many levels. Why can't tifs just mind their own damn business and refrain from these direct comparisons with men. Of course you're going to get your ass kicked or seriously injured even

No. 1800509

>>1800501
To be fair, I think that was a TIF who has her own thread and she larps as an incel both irl and on tumblr, soooo

No. 1800510

>>1800503
I disagree. If people treat you badly because they perceive you in a bad way that's not realistic it's a problem. For example, misogyny. "women are inferior" etc. These girls troon out to try to escape misogyny.

No. 1800512

>>1800489
>a lot of our team hadn't played sport since school
Yes, let's pretend that's why you lost.

No. 1800515

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she left out the fact that she was/is an autistic Fujo who shipped kpop boyband members.

No. 1800520

>>1800510
They don't even escape misogyny. People still call that child killer a her, a woman. And when the believe they're "escaping misogyny" it's because the believe other women enjoy being treated like shit. No one is escaping the perception of others, sorry.

No. 1800521

>>1800515
Already posted
>>1799884

No. 1800522

>>1800510
If someone is treated like shit for looking physically disabled, what should they identify as to escape that

No. 1800528

>>1800489
These are the girls that made fun of cheerleaders and tried to get out of running in gym class. Imagine being this happy you lost to men. Actual athletic girlies would never.

No. 1800547

>>1800522
Yeah kek that's not how that works. What about racism then? Oh you're refused jobs you're more than qualified for because of your race? You're systematically refused apartment visits when looking for a place to live because landlord don't like your dark skin? Bleach your skin and straighten your hair! Or get a double eyelid surgery and bleach your hair if you're east asian!

No. 1800549

>>1800462
>in most cases misogyny has nothing to do with it
This is just blatantly untrue. If anything, the dysphoria you're describing is extremely rare, even among troons. When you really boil it down and listen to their reasoning as to why they trooned out or how they first knew they were trans, nearly all of them fall into a few camps - all of those motivated by misogyny or homophobia (which you could argue is fueled by misogyny in and of itself).

1. Growing up in a very religious/traditional environment where homosexuality is unacceptable so they troon out in a misguided attempt to escape this and better fit into societal norms.
2. Fetishism - this is much more common among TIMs
3. Very young ones being influenced by social contagion and treating like a new fun trend.
4. They will never outright say it, but it's so clear that many, and I'd even say most, TIFs transition to escape the social role of women. Upon reaching puberty, you're suddenly thrust into this whole new world where you cease to become a full person. It feels like yesterday you were just a normal little kid, but now adults (mostly moids) are being weird about your body and heavily sexualizing you. You get your period and realize you're stuck with this shitty painful thing that makes you "unclean" in the eyes of many for the next few decades. It also introduces the risk, and fear, of pregnancy. It was so common in middle school for my friends and I to describe having a nightmare where we suddenly wake up pregnant. Your friends start entering relationships and you're now old enough to recognize the fucked up dynamics at play in relationships between girls and boys and women and men. You're taught that hetero sex is often dangerous, degrading, and inevitable. You're shamed for doing it and not doing it. The boys around you act like complete menaces and face little to no consequences for it. So do the adult men. And a bunch of your female friends, and even female adults, will more readily side with them over you. Puberty is not fun for anyone, but it's straight up traumatic for little girls. I believe that is the biggest motivator for the surge in teen girls transitioning, not their brain wires getting crossed and making them desperately want a dick. They'd only want a dick anyway because it would mean no longer having a vagina and therefore being much less vulnerable to sexual violence.

No. 1800551

>>1800471
Sounds like you just needed to touch grass retard. There are millions of women around the world living in refugee camps or active war zones who wake up with actual problems (like finding food and clean water), not thinking their body feels “wrong” lmao.

No. 1800552

>>1800549
nobody cares about your long ass sperg

No. 1800553

>>1800551
so what you're saying is mental illnesses aren't actual problems?

No. 1800557

>>1800553
nta but anon never said or implied that and I feel like this thread is currently being overrun with trutranses trying to convince users that hating yourself and by extention hating all women and wanting as little do with them as possible because you think they're inheritely shameful and slutty is a valid mental illness. If your mental illness causes you to become a misogynist so rabid that you cut your healthy tits off then you are not owed sympathy by any woman here

No. 1800558

>>1800553
I’m saying that privileged people in 1st world countries are torturing themselves with problems they create in their own minds (gender dysphoria - thinking you were born in the wrong body) because they don’t have real problems to worry about.

No. 1800559

>>1800308
>Not saying some aiden tit chops don't look horrific but posting that pic is in bad taste imo

That's a good point. I tried to find a failed aiden tit chops and I couldn't find it and the transgendersurgeries have more neovaginas than flat chests. So I admit the photo I posted was in bad taste.

No. 1800564

>>1800551
If anon is who I think (all descriptions match) she's a cow who's deeply terrified of grass, ironically. >>1778636
I'd argue she's a very rare case of genuine mental illness, not trying to "escape misogyny" if so. She's got like 6 fucking mental disorders and a good chunk of them significantly reduce QoL (BED, MDD, CIAD [GAD but exasperated by caffeine addiction], OCD, and GID. Everything but Autism)
I'm kinda shocked she was only posted in the Vocaloid thread and not in any of the previous TIF thread before getting one of her own, especially with her track record of threatening to rape & murder radblr bloggers.

No. 1800566

>>1800557
>>1800558
>hating all women and wanting as little to do with them as possible because you think they're inheritely shameful and slutty is a valid mental illness
being dysphoric doesn't automatically make you a misogynist, neither does it mean you've medically transitioned. they may not be as common, but there are causes for gender dysphoria that don't stem from misogyny.
>they don't have real problems to worry about
are mental disorders not something to worry about?? this is no different from saying that rich people can't possibly suffer from depression since they're privileged. they are called illnesses for a reason; it's not something you can control. anyone can have them.

No. 1800570

File: 1680373859946.jpeg (135.98 KB, 1080x1080, nhs troon protest.jpeg)

I gotta hand it to troons. they are organised. our national health service in the UK is in absolute tatters. there are people currently on waiting lists for chemo, surgery and other treatment of life-threatening diseases but there are zero demonstrations or protests. TIFs have to wait a year to think about whether they want to fuck up their lives forever and they're straight out onto the streets complaining about it. if only they could be this up in arms about the more important things.

No. 1800571

>>1800566
faggot can you shut the fuck up already and stop derailing

No. 1800574

>>1800372
Fucking called it. This is also why she had a total meltdown about leaving college. No more school = you have to be an adult now and she resented that

No. 1800577

>>1800570
Who would have thought that if you tell a bunch of hyper individualist narcissists that they're being "oppressed" since it's totally reasonable to have everything you want, when you want it, even at the violation of others rights, that they'd organize their narcissistic rage?

No. 1800582

>>1800551
>>1800558
Yeah and when the only places on earth where women have SEX-based human rights repeals them by signing gender-identity-based rights instead, what happens? Progress? The UN is in favor of getting rid of single-sex spaces in countries where women get raped to death on public transport in broad daylight. Even Malala Yousaf is supporting it over women's rights now. You can piss and moan about it being a "first world problem" in your fucking delusion bubble all you want, the reality is: it's being forced on developing countries who can't afford not to take these globalist "incentives" to meet "human rights objectives."

No. 1800584

>>1800552
You clearly do, since you've replied.(sage your shit)

No. 1800591

>>1800462
Seriously what's with this influx of tifs lately? This thread especially is full of them. Do they even know where they are? This is where we rightfully criticize trannies and they still come here with "muh dysphoria!!". Fuck off holy shit.

No. 1800596

>>1800591
they want nonas to bow down and be like yes tifchan you are the one true trans you are the only valid one

No. 1800600

>>1800454
Wow nonny sounds terrible, better kill a bunch of kids then neck yourself

No. 1800609

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Audrey and her basketball team

No. 1800612

>> 1800609
wow she once had a time in her life where she looked like a normal cute girl. her recent photos are very odd, she looks extremely gaunt and old for 28, i can imagine her behaviour lining up with the way she looked and acted recently but in these photos she doesn't look like half the autist she ended up being, looking at the facial expressions they look normal also, maybe that truly was the last time she had genuine friendships and these chicks are overinflating how weird she was then to not seem like they were friends with a kid killer.
sage for retardation

No. 1800619

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>>1800372
Or maybe she just happened to be a sperg that didn't want to die alone in her bedroom so she decided to kill others as a way to cope with her loneliness. She gives off Olga Hepnarova vibes to be honest.

No. 1800621

>>1800494
my sides

No. 1800623

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This account is so annoying and is obviously a fujoshi/TIF larping as a gay man to try to give her opinions validity. They never post selfies and literally no gay man talks about BL and "protecting trans men" and "being a fujoshi ally" 24/7

No. 1800624

>>1800618
>perform manhood
there is her problem

No. 1800625

File: 1680382336875.png (19.77 KB, 644x608, capture.png)

What TIF category does this one fit in? not the usual Fujotroon IF but not a lesbian AAP either. she seems to be a rare TIF that wants a masculine bf and tries her best to be the masculine as well/

No. 1800626

>>1800625
trootrans but straight, buck angel type

No. 1800628

>>1800625
I've never seen this one before but scrolling her twitter she just seems like a normal radfem but for some reason trooned out, probably just needs to feel somehow "different" from all the other radfems. Her using the term "retransitioner" in her bio screams attention seeker

No. 1800629

>>1800552
That's why I saged, dumbass. Ignore it if it bothers you so much.

No. 1800634

>>1800625
>retransitioner
>supports detrans
>tirf (?????)

No. 1800638

File: 1680383513400.png (19.79 KB, 934x246, hepnarovamanifesto.png)

>>1800619
Olga Hepnarova at least sent her edgelord manifesto to newspapers instead of leaving us hanging.

I think Hale's manifesto is probably similar in content.

No. 1800647

>>1800570
They should be fighting for their surgeries to be made better or at least standard, not for the ability to throw their life away faster. Tinfoil but I wonder if the movements and protests focused on decreasing the time spent waiting is spearheaded by industry plants to prevent them from complaining for better protections and increase profits of course

No. 1800653

>>1800292
Keyhole is only suitable for small chested women though, so even if the scarring looks better in this pic it's still gonna heal badly 80% of the time

No. 1800656

>>1799884
sage for blog post, but… My coworker, who does not express any of her enby-ness or ask anyone to use her he/they pronouns or chosen name at work retweeted this. It really feels like a fashion fad or something for a purely online audience. I don't understand it. She even has a boyfriend. But she's posting about coming out as agender and wanting to microdose on T? It's like zoomers don't understand you can have short hair and dress androgynously without changing your gender.

No. 1800665

>>1800619
>im so sorry, i am not trying to upset you or to get attention
>after hinting to killing herself

I hate people like this. Why could she not just shoot her brains out, the attention seeking bitch. Why take kids with her? Scrote behaviour tbh. Lowest of the low.

No. 1800670

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>>1800591
No, they should stay. The more they are exposed to 'wrongthink', the more doubts they'll have. It would be cruel to deny them enlightenment.

No. 1800677

>>1800591
TIFs are not like TIMS anon, they are victims and this is the best place for them to question their identity and become peaked.

I'd rather have a hundred TIFs questioning their identity and sperging about gender dysphoria here than a million TIMs spamming cp and gore while invading women and lesbian only spaces online. TIFs are women and are victims of patriarchy no matter what misogynistic moid larp they spin. Denying them this reality is misogyny.

No. 1800681

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>>1800495
as always, these parasitic cockroaches appropriate the language of actually oppressed groups

No. 1800698

>>1800495
Imagine a "thyroid cancer joy" day. Isn't being a trans a horrendous illness that literally kills people and which there is no cure for?

No. 1800708

>>1800625
Seems like an ardent follower of Buck Angel.

No. 1800710

>>1800677
I don't understand people like you. Tifs hate women. They hate themselves because they think being a woman is disgusting and shameful. They think any woman is totally okay with being abused and raped and that we enjoy and invite it. They resent you for being a woman. Tifs are nothing but incredibly cold and cruelly apathetic to other women. They think that if we didn't like misogyny, we would just transition like them. They hate you, they think you're a disgusting whore, they think you're dumb as fuck, they think you enjoy being reduced to being a fuckhole and they are absolutely and collectively convinced that they are better than you on every single level there is.
The "tifs are victims" narrative is completely outdated by now. Most tifs transition because they can't stand to be in the same category as you and they'd rather massacre their bodies than he like you. Please open your eyes nonnie

No. 1800711

>>1800528
Is obvious they have never seen a World Football cup to realize most of teams are rude and wouldn't let themselves lose against another women team, less another men team.

No. 1800715

>>1800710
Adding also they don't want nothing to do with women's body problems, but they ask to health orgs to recognize menstruation or breast cancer or pregnancy as "MEN/ENBY ISSUES" when they know quite right that men cannot menstruate or get pregnant outside of their mpreg shit (they can get breast cancer, thought). And even if you mention that women cannot menstruate, they will insist "yeah, but is not the same for US".

Is the new "not like other girls" but to the extreme.

No. 1800719

>>1800710

This is exactly my experience with a "stealth" ftm tif lol. Very little esteem for women, fixation on finding opportunities for casual sex with them, weird affected way of talking about women (habitually calling them "chicks" even though I don't think I really know of any men who frequently use that word??? it was just weird), openly boasts about "conquests"

No. 1800748

>>1800625
>tries to come off masculine as possible
>still types like a girl on social media

No. 1800753

>>1800681
Black Joy to Trans Joy
Black Lives Matter to Trans Lives Matter
Women's Rights are Human Rights to Trans Rights are Human Rights
AIDs Die-In to Trans Die-In
Jewish genocide to Trans genocide
Trans invasion on the gay rainbow flag, obviously


Just their theft off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more.

No. 1800755

>>1800753
was black joy a saying? wouldnt be surprised if they started making trans excellence posts too.

No. 1800757

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>34 (yes really)
Yeah that’s not very hard to notice

No. 1800762

>>1800625
>retransitioner
So she trooned out, detransitioned, and trooned out again? I think this one is a lost cause.

No. 1800763

>>1800757
It’s not like she’s old but she’s dressing so much like a zoomer it makes her look way more… dated.

No. 1800770

>>1800755
I've heard it before unfortunately. The trans rights movement doesn't have a shread of originality or purpose.

No. 1800771

>>1800753
World menstruation day must include tif, enbis and tims.

Women's day must include trans people (ironically, men's day (Nov 19th) is not even mentioned so Trans people do not say shit about it).

No. 1800774

>>1800762
No such thing as a troon, TIF or otherwise, who is not a lost cause. Don't try to convince them to detransition because they'll try to silence you in any way they can, namely deplatforming and life ruination.
The ones who detransition are very rare and you're best off cutting the TIFs out and assuming all of them will never change.

No. 1800776

>>1800677
Tifs aren't victims, but some of the most dangerous pickmes out there who jump for joy at the thought of harming more young women, thats the only moidlike thing about them in fact. Audrey was just an autist who could not process these ideas symbolically and brought them to real life, but in the heart of every tif there is the desire to harm (young & vulnerable) women. We should act according, the tifs reading this can peak in silence and stop vomiting their virulent (born of self-hate, yeah, but still virulent) misogyny on this site.

No. 1800788

>>1800762
In a way I kind of get the retrooning. I mean you fucked up your body, you sound like either a man or a hoarse frog and you look like a balding hairy chimpansee. In some cases they can't go back like Scott Newgent. She ain't never gonna look normal.

No. 1800789

>>1800763
I've noticed a lot of them accidentality dress like they came out of the 70's.

No. 1800792

>>1800776
TIF's are like the fuckers in history that let the door or the gate open for invading forces and got everyone killed. Victims my ass.

No. 1800793

>>1800710
(NTA) I'm sure this is true of older gender-obsessed TIFs, but there are also teenager TIFs who are TIFs instead of being emo/tomboys/ana-chans, instead of accepting their sexual orientation or the fact that they struggle with puberty and change like most teenage girls. They're also growing up in a world where gender shit is taught in schools and their therapist is likely to suggest mastectomies to solve their issues so… Idk. If some handmaidens/TIFs can peak by lurking here it's a good thing I guess.

No. 1800794

>>1800792
Go outside and touch some grass.
>>1800788
This is Justin wrong on many levels. First of all who cares if they continue being hairy women after detransitoning. A very lookist take.
Also many tifs are able to detrans succesfully it just takes time until their body goes back to normal.

No. 1800876

>>1800552
I think it's a far better explanation of why troonism happens than the blogposty schizo ramblings anon was posting earlier.

No. 1800877

>>1800753
GirlsLikeUs was originally for Black women, SayHerName was originally for Native American and Black women who were victims of violence or femicide. It’s insane how nearly everything has been co-opted by them. I’m seeing TransExcellence being used and TransGirlMagic was popular for a while (right off the backs of Black women, again)

No. 1800883

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>>1799556
LOL HOLY SHIT
didn't expect my personal cow to pop up here; papdiaries is actually the latest in a multi-year series of sockpuppet/fake accounts created by the same person. you can always tell it's them because of the disturbing storyline consistency (yes, there's actual fucking lore here) between accounts/similar and very specific themes (among them being TIF moms with multiple autist children + an autist husband, extended breastfeeding, having kids extremely young, and other very weird shit).

if any of you are interested i can dig up my schizo documentation i've compiled + clean it up to make it actually readable, this is an insane rabbithole and i've been dying to tell people about it. picrel, it's from one of the past accounts this person made.

No. 1800887

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>>1800609
crazy. shes like totally a normal girl in those pics

No. 1800896

>>1800883
Sounds delightful, please share

No. 1800904

Sage for blog but I really don’t understand she/they. Almost every lesbian I come across has it in their bio. They’re comfortable with female pronouns, so what is the point in adding they/them? Just for NLOG points even though it’s extremely common and meaningless at this point? It’s so cringeworthy to me how easily so many people will jump onto bandwagons.

No. 1800905

>>1800896
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QzocV2fCn76nbSAYqgA1Bk_7wMdOvoEyMGtjiLgPRe0/edit?usp=sharing
Preemptive apologies for the denseness, I tried to condense it but this is already pretty truncated as is. anyways, tldr of the doc is that this is about the previous account/saga before papadiaries; you can tell it's the same person though due to the typing style + narrative thread reoccurrence (ex. papadiaries's husband + MIL are also mexijewish and from cali, most likely being related to the same character(s) from the solid_ad and teenparentvent accounts; like i said, this shit has lore!!!!!). plus, papadiaries was made the exact same day as teenparentvent's last post, feb 16th 2023.

there's at least three more accounts other than the one's i've touched on, btw, but getting into their weird fucked up storylines would require another 36 pages.

No. 1800913

>>1800883
I've seen her pop up on breaking mom and on the baby name subreddit, good detective work

No. 1800916

>>1800904
She/they is somewhere in between giga normie straight girls and ultra autistic they/them enbies and fakebois who are full-on troons and want to chop their tits off.
Kinda like just a girl wearing comfortable clothes and probably a short hairstyle.

No. 1800928

>>1800905
lmao two of her imaginary 14 kids are literally named Dean and Misha. How did anyone take this seriously?

No. 1800943

>>1800904
It all starts making sense once you see pronouns as a type of "gender expression" spectrum. In the mind of a gendie, she/her means total femininity and enthusiastic conformation to gender roles. She/they is basically "im a woman but not a brainless silly slut". If you're a shethey you're "allowed" to dress in neutral clothes and you're allowed to feel like a human (as opposed to the shehers who are seen as embracing being nothing but a bimbo fuckdoll) which is why every completely normal looking woman nowadays is a shethey. Lesbians are also at least shetheys (if not theythems or heshes). I have legitimately not seen a sheher lesbian in years online. Obviously theythem grants you full humanity because of your rejection of anything female

No. 1800958

>>1800905
that was a great read, thank you.
I actually remember seeing some of her posts on reddit before and thinking how insane and far fetched it was lol

No. 1800959

>>1800905
quality documenting, thanks for sharing nona. i haven't looked through it all but i'm dying imagining the utter chaos of a house full of disabled children with exotic animals and hunting dogs.

No. 1800970

>>1800793
Something I’ve noticed in schools is that being trans seems to lead to less harassment than calling oneself emo or gay. The latter two are still slinged around like insults or used to mock classmates (“shut up, emo” “bruh that’s gay you’re a homo” etc) but when a student is trans it’s like they’re not criticizable, either because it would lead to an automatic office referral or because it’s still easier to harass homosexuals and (emo) girls for their traits. Not to mention the trans students are usually ultra critical or everyone else and continue to use the same insults that they fear toward other students.

No. 1800980

>>1800928
what's weird about that? are those popular fakeboi names

No. 1800981

>>1800794
>>1800793
No one gives a fuck nonnie. This isn't daycare. This isn't "lets be nice so the bitches that threatened to murders us might detroon". We're not their fucking mothers. Most of them are complete cunts and make other women's lives exponentially worse. And a lot of them look fucked up after taking testosterone. Let's not pretend it's all fucking rainbows and fuzzy feelings like they do on troon boards.

No. 1800985

>>1800980
Assuming it's after Dean Winchester/Misha Collins

No. 1800987

>>1800776
>but in the heart of every tif there is the desire to harm (young & vulnerable) women
this is retarded. most tifs are also young & vulnerable women who have been harmed by the medical system (regardless of whether they're physically transitioning, the medical system supporting transition validates it). trans is a social contagion for fuck's sake, of course it affects vulnerable young women. a large percent are depressed, autistic, and same-sex attracted. they're in a cult-like group and been indoctrinated, and you probably can't change their beliefs, sure. but acting like they're uniquely misogynistic and harmful to women ignores how plenty of women have internalized misogyny and treat each other like shit. women with eating disorders (yes i know there's overlap) similarly can act evil towards other women and have internalized misogyny, collecting fatspo and such but again holding such high levels of vitriol towards mentally unwell people is low iq thinking.

No. 1800991

>>1800987
You're one of these morons who think that shooter is a victim. Even when a lot of shit happens to you at the end of the day there is still a limit of the bullshit you can get away with before your moral compass should take over. Some TIFs a vulnerable kids sure, but that shit ends when they show up at let women speak events with signs like "decapitate terfs" and try to get women fired.

No. 1800994

>>1800757
sad to see that even being an nlog can't stop them from being obsessed with youth

No. 1800996

>>1800887
makes sense. in a structured environment and with less complicated social rules/knowledge needed as a kid, autistic people can do okay. but as they grow older, the differences and lacking social instinct/skills can show if they're not able to keep masking.

No. 1801003

>>1800991
victims can obviously also be bad people. autistic women disproportionately face sexual violence so there was a real chance, even if not a victim of CSA, a man did something else to her at one point. what she did is still evil annd premeditated, but look at her art, she is clearly so mentally unwell and probably at a far lower maturity level due to autism.

No. 1801004

>>1800887
She's the only white on the team? Is that because she went to a black school or because that's how basketball works out?

No. 1801006

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>>1800928
I mean look up people like James Hampton or early scientists in fields that weren't even invented yet, they were most likely autistic but they could function well enough in society in their own way, now their stuck in home all day and obsessing over sonic and frying their brain with hentai and yaoi

No. 1801007

>>1800996
I think sports team environments are great for that because you're there to do one thing only, the conversation topic is set, everyone is likely to be excited and getting "in the zone" for the game. everyone has a role and reason to be there. there is little ambiguity in that kind of setting, which helps make things less awkward. plus, for Audrey, basketball seemed to be one of her special interests so it doesn't surprise me to see her looking more relaxed and happy in these pictures.
she should have just stuck to shooting hoops and not innocent people.

No. 1801009

>>1800987
Some of you handwringing anons don't seem to realize that young and vulnerable tifs desire to "escape misogyny" comes from hatred and disgust for other women. Some of you are just not making the connection that these tifs think YOU as a woman are a complete dumbass for not transitioning and therefor consenting to and inviting to your abuse. And guess what, most of us aren't very sympathetic to anachans who pathologically tear down other women either. If you see someone here who defends fatspo collectors they're probably one themselves.
The whole grooming and cult victim narrative only goes that far. You can call little girls or boys getting cut up by their own parents for attention victims. But even teenagers will tell you they envy males and dislike women, are disgusted by women, think gonzo porn is their inevitable reality once they become older. And that's their motivation for transitioning. If you can't see the blatant hatred and misogyny in this then I don't know what else to tell you. Look at tif spaces and come to your own conclusion on the misogyny present. They hoot and holler each time a notable eceleb woman gets publicly torn down, they have complete apathy to women's pain. It doesn't take a lot to recognize and see this.
They think a pronoun change makes them completely exempt from any and all misogyny, and you as a woman are the retard for not changing your pronouns as well and thus making yourself exempt too

No. 1801012

>>1801009
Thank you. No matter their reasoning for "escaping misogyny" (they never do, but let's humor them) it's solely personal and navel gazing. They don't care about misogyny at large, they care that it happens to them. They could give less of a fuck about women or their suffering in general. They're so self hating they've accepted the idea that women are porn holes as 100% truth. So they run away from it, and perpetuate misogyny from afar because they're too weak to reject popular culture.

No. 1801018

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>>1799884
This woman is 28 years old and has a husband . I swear she’s not seeing how fucked up this actually is.

No. 1801022

>>1800905
Amazing documentation, thanks for mapping the rabbit hole nonnita! Cringing at the "son"'s ~totally normal~ ~teenage~ writing style complete with "um sweaty r u lost?" snark

No. 1801033

>>1801018
This is such a common and typical teen girl mindset. Every insecure average tomboyish teen girl has thought they would make an above average cute boy. They think they are "better" at being a cute boy than real boys and that gives them confidence. They're trying to cope and bargin with the social hierarchy and make themselves out to be higher on it.
You see the same mindset with other insecurities like how insecure fat girls think they're "hotter" than the skinny girls because they have bigger boobs due to being fatter.

The funny thing is none of them actually make cute boys. They all just end up looking like pudgy manlets at best.

No. 1801037

>>1801018
>Yeah I accepted I was an average woman BUT I still think women are icky so I'm a boy. Average women are valid but men are still superior uwu

No. 1801039

>>1800887
I'd say (also speaking from experience) that autistic girls are hard to "point out" when they're still children. Once they enter their 20s they're not able to "mature" the same way normal girls can, so the difference becomes evident. It's also why a lot of autistic high functioning women get diagnosed as adults, it's hard to tell when they're children that there's something "off" about them (unlike moid autists). I don't know if this is the killer's case, but it could be.

No. 1801041

Okay, so I've been under a rock all week, but are troons seriously chimping out over the school shooting and acting like it's NOT their fault, or the shooter's? I saw some images of troon protesters claiming the shooter was also a "victim" alongside the children she shot. Is there ANY backlash to all this shit? Or are normal people just taking this lying down?

No. 1801043

>>1801041
I am not sure if anything meaningful IRL has happened.That Trans Day of Vengeance protest was cancelled and it has mostly been people on both sides getting mad at each other online. It really does not help that the manifesto is still not out yet and that the media deliberately obfuscates Audrey's gender identity. There is definitely a lot of fuckery going on behind the scenes with this case.

No. 1801046

>>1801033
Eh, not really. The cutest femboys I’ve seen in my life were all women. 30 year old cross dressing girls regularly mog 18 year old males.

No. 1801053

>>1800710
NTAYRT, but TIFs are literally just delusional women. I agree with the other anon that even though they're annoying, it's better they're exposed to this kind of thinking than stuck in their troon bubble. If they peak then that means more women on our side.

No. 1801057

>>1801018
Proof most ugly girls troon out so they don't have to be held up to the high beauty standards of women who identity as women.

No. 1801059

>>1800987
Other anons already explained this to you, but i'm going to add another point: because it's a social contagion we should cut all tifs from the start. You don't let a pathogen grow under the faint hope that it will get better. Shutting down tifs and their memetic misoginy is not only the right thing, but the only thing to do to prevent more victims. Think about it like Jehovah's Witnesses, yes they're persons (whatever) but you don't open your door to them because they will try to indoctrinate you and your people, because thats all they can do. With the addition that trannies are lot more quickly destructive than JW's. ROGD can develop in a few weeks and ruin lives forever, is no small thing.
"But they're mentally unwell" ok, that means literally nothing. A lot of JW's are ex-addicts and obviously mentally unsound too. still, you don't open your door to them, because they're memetic agents of their (destructive) ideology, trannies are literally the same.
Anas can go fuck themselves too, for fuck sake they're routinely banned here when they step down their containment threads. No one cares about anas nonsense and the overall consensus in this site and pretty much everywhere is that they should keep their vile antisocial shit to themselves. In fact there is a large subgroup of "self aware anas" who keep the proanas in check. Most anas know they have to drop the proana shit if they want to talk to a normal person and exist in normal spaces. As long as tifs don't have an equivalent to that, they have no room to speak. At all.

No. 1801068

>>1800503
nta but if I was a tranny on a deserted island I’d still be “performing my gender” same as I would any other day, the number of trans people who continued being trans throughout the Covid pandemic is proof of that. this is a stupid ass take rooted in the same ideology as men who say women only care about their bodies, dress up nicely, or wear makeup to be perceived/paid attention to by men. plenty of women would still do things that are “performing their gender” even if they’re alone surrounded by nobody. silly argument

No. 1801070

>>1800877
I remember the SayHerName being user for that reason and the symbol of a red hand over the face. Now it's for women and troons because… My two spirits? Even in intrafamiliar violence, NA women are being silenced.

No. 1801072

>>1801058
Exactly. You NEVER indulge in someone's mental illness.

No. 1801073

>>1801068
jfc this thread has been absolute shit ever since the shooting. in these past days we not only got a horde of trutrans tifs begging for validation but also retards like you who are here solely to be tranny apologists. take it back to tumblr faggot

No. 1801074

>>1800710
I don’t know what strawman you’ve imagined in your head to seethe this hard at in online threads but holy shit do you severely lack basic self awareness. Maybe instead of boogeymanning other mentally Ill people, you take this shit to therapy. You’re not morally righteous for sperging about that one tif in your highschool biology class that has permeated your idea of what 10000s of other humans believe and act like, tif or not. Humans aren’t a monolith. Take your meds.

No. 1801083

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anyone seen or listened to this yet? pro-trans podcast ran by TransLash media just did an interview with a detransitioner about the de transition movement. it’s not a good look

No. 1801086

>>1801074
ywnbam

No. 1801095

>>1801068
You wouldn't have money to buy shit to perform your gender on a deserted island dumbass. Being trans is such a first world western problem that has unfortunately been exported worldwide to other bored people with money to burn via the internet.

No. 1801099

>>1801083
This is interesting. Nonnas have pointed out some detrans women who have been used by rightwing media as a way to push back against trans ideology. In some ways I feel being used like that has a detrimental effect just like being taken advantage of by the trans crowd does. But the thing is that a ton of these people are people who fall for extreme ideology either way. If it’s not becoming a TiF, it’s switching gears and becoming a tradwife. I guess this person is one who got on the trans train, then got off and swung in the other direction only to swing back. People like this really need therapy and some room to develop critical thinking skills without being swayed to one extreme or the other. It’s why I do feel bad for some detransitioners who don’t feel like they can talk about the issues with transitioning without it being pushed only by conservative media. We should be able to discuss this without any political leaning at all imo, but unfortunately TRAs make it impossible because you’re either for them or against them with no in between.

No. 1801109

>>1801099
so true. and for the people who trooned out for attention (whether it's narcissism or a result of abuse/neglect etc.) they might notice how popular transgederism has become and not feel special enough anymore so detransitioning could become the next way for them to get people's attention and admiration. and then retransitioning again, and so on. ideally, like you say, detransitioning would involve more emotional support through the process, less politicising and focusing on ways for them to develop better critical thinking skills before they jump into the next cult.

No. 1801124

>>1801083
ky schevers is a retransitioner and has an unstable identity. i read some of her personal pieces on her activism/earlier behavior, when they came out and she came across as the actual immoral person for going along with actions and activism as a detrans woman she did not agree with. i believe she was involved within a solely radical feminism/internalized misogyny approach to dysphoria and community that did not help and was dysfunctional.

No. 1801146

>>1801068
Kek no you wouldn't. You wouldn't wear heels or makeup and fixate on your ~~dysphoria~~ if you needed to get your shit together and work to live. Women in rural areas and many third world countries can't afford to perform femininity (or gender) because they have other issues. You compare the deserted island scenario to lockdowns but it's not the same at all, since people had plenty of time to eyefuck themselves in the mirror and post selfies and stories on tiktok all day to get compliments from their cult friends, so yeah they still performed "gender".

No. 1801157

>>1800494
Being down by 7 is humiliating. I wonder if that one point was a pity point.

No. 1801171

>>1800928
lmao fun fact about that, the account she used prior to solid (mamaaandbabyhelp, the character then was a 14 year old lesbian who had a baby at 12 and who was also ambiguously brown and whose entire family was autistic) was a FREQUENT commentator in the Supernatural subreddit. Said account also has a “sequel” now, jackandbabe, that is currently active around the same hours as papadiaries despite allegedly being in the UK.

The Dean and Misha names also popped up in (what I believe was) her oldest account, aitathrowawffee; back then she was a TIF mother of two married to an abusive lesbian spouse who liked to tell her two autistic kids about her self harm scars.

>>1800959

if you’re interested in hearing about that sort of chaos you’re in luck! iirc both papadiaries and solid_ad (though you’ll have to search the other’s posts via camas) were/are fond of submitting posts to breakingmom regarding their absolute shitshow lives and how everything around them is crumbling and they ~just want to cry~. but don’t you dare suggest that maybe deciding to have 7+ autistic children was a bad choice, you heckin ableist shitlord

also thank you to everyone who’s enjoyed my schizoposting!! i wasn’t sure it’d land but seeing ya’ll enjoy it warms my cold dead evil transphobe heart <3

No. 1801180

>>1800333
>when I told myself I'm not a woman I felt happy
>"why didn't you tell yourself you're a hotdog?"
>that's too hard for me to answer
Kek

No. 1801185

>>1800407
>my gender is dildo and my pronoun is nig
And they all took it seriously lmfao, even one of them saying don't worry I'm sure there are white people who'll call you "nig" cos they'll understand black struggles

>>1800489
>a lot of our team hadn't played sports since school
Yet they were put on the team? Bet you weren't so joyful when you were thrashed on the pitch but ig all that matters is omg we're all twans

No. 1801186

>>1801041
A bunch of loons invaded the Nashville capitol and held up 7 fingers counting the TIF as a victim. Trans day of vengeance was cancelled in Washington but a bunch of antifa nutjobs held up Hollywood Boulevard for 3 hours and harassed several people

No. 1801187

>>1801046
That's because you're retarded.

No. 1801189

>>1801068
Sage your bullshit. And no you wouldn't. Tons of people trooned out during covid because they were perpetually online getting brainwashed. Plenty of "trans kids" revert back to normal when their parents remove their internet access and put them in a different school. You can only be trans as long as other people play along with your delusion.

No. 1801190

>>1801180
Hotdogs are dogs! They are brave and stunning.

No. 1801207

>>1801018
why do i feel like they transition purely to "be more attractive?? its so fucking weird

No. 1801220

>>1801018
I wonder how spineless the husband must be to put up with her nonsense.

No. 1801230

>>1801033
>They're trying to cope and bargin with the social hierarchy and make themselves out to be higher on it.
You're a piece of shit, catty nlog using MGTOW tier scrote logic. Insecure teenage girls are not vile wenches and no one is "competing" for shit.

No. 1801243

>>1801187
You like femboys? Most of them are ugly as shot and that's why women larp as femboys because men don't even want actual femboys, they want women who larp as femboys.

No. 1801245

I feel like the tide of focus is now being directed from mtf to ftm. The tide is changing.

This is actually a bad thing because now retarded conservatives will now target gnc women and accuse them of being "evil tranny ftm".

It was way better when people and conservatives did not even know about the existence of ties. Now I feel like after this shooting people of a certain background will start acting hostile towards tomboy, gnc women, masc women , butch women etc etc.
Stay safe and dress/act feminine if you have to, better safe than sorry.

No. 1801252

>>1801245
I think conservitards were always focused on the FtMs. obsessing about young girls breasts being removed and blaming feminism for radicalising them (ironic). I don't think the backlash will be any more aimed at GNC women than generally anyone who looks like they might be part of LGBTQ+. they were just waiting for something like this to happen unfortunately, to justify their bigotry (namely homophobia).

No. 1801256

>>1801009
>tifs desire to "escape misogyny" comes from hatred and disgust for other women
Definitely but you're saying this like that self-hatred and misogyny comes from within them naturally, when it comes from how women are represented in our hyper sexualized/pornified society (or alternatively due to having gendies for parents or very conservative parents) (or dealing with EDs). There's no excuse for adult TIFs who have had the time and the mental capabilities to see through the BS, but it feels weird to expect teenage girls not to have any retarded moments nor any internalized misogyny (obviously not on lolcow, but in general).

No. 1801260

As long as society exists women will keep on altering their body to be accepted by society.
Whether that be becoming a tif and getting your breath reduced/removed.

And whether you be a normal woman getting fillers, lasers,plastic surgery, bigger boobs, ass injections, skincare , haircare , extensions, rhinoplasty, photoshop,skimpy clothing, hyperfeminine clothing, feet destroying high heels, waxing or shaving every week , plucking any facial hair, dieting, or reverse-dieting by forcing yourself to ingest more calories , skin bleaching , tanning , contact lenses , luxury bag collecting, V-shape jawline surgery etc etc.

No. 1801263

>>1800647
this. i have no idea why they’re trying to frame this as not a mental illness. no idea why they’re not lobbying for better safeguarding and mental health care for people with GD/GID and asking for equal opportunities/housing. like wouldn’t it be better to know why this happens? lmfao it’s fucking dumb and seems evil and i don’t know why more people are asking questions about this. fucking morons. i have no pity for them

No. 1801264

>>1801245
Even if the focus changes, conservative retards and the likes don't consider women capable of critical thinking so they'll blame trannies, the orgs, and everything else involved. TIFs are always going to be poor and confused girls in their eyes that are easily manipulated and they'll never see the irony of that.
>>1801256
It's the most hilarious shit whenever anons ITT talk about (internalized) misogyny. What site do they think they're on? It's much easier to change yourself than to change the world and considering the current state of things it's not going to get better any time soon. Women are still going to be valued for their looks mostly and both men and women enforce that status quo. All the talks about promoting women and feminist values is fine and dandy but reality paints an entirely different picture. Any GNC woman can attest to that.

No. 1801265

>>1801264
How would you rate your looks on an 1 to 10 scale

No. 1801268

>>1801260
This is so defeatist, society has deemed women to be the ones to alter their physical appearances, but there's absolutely no natural basis for this, women are desirable by default. If the world wasn't ruled by men we wouldn't be in this position and men would rightfully be the ones getting dressed up and competing for their stake in a chance to pass on their genes. If tifs who hate femininity rituals managed to wake up and stop being tifs, we'd have even more women to fight towards the more desirable world where women don't feel the need to do any of this bullshit

No. 1801273

>>1801268
Anon I'm sorry to tell you but this has existed since the times of when humans were cavemen or in tribes.

This is not a new thing.
Women in african tribes since many many years ago have been doing dangerous beauty procedure to attract men.
Women in the middle ages were also destroying their organs with tight corsets.
It's a innate human biological thing.
To stop women from doing that is to change biology and to suffer bullying and ostracazition from others. It's so easy to talk shut on the internet but in real life things are different and most women succumb to misogyny or toxic intra-sexual competivness with other women.

No. 1801274

>>1801260
>contact lenses

Fuck off TiF. Getting your breasts cut off is not equivalent to even the most obnoxious Kardashian lip fillers and butt implants. A normie woman with plastic surgery would probably have more feminist views about woman's rights than a self-hating TiF who thinks that male bodies are superior.

No. 1801275

>>1801243
No but I'm not some sick scrote that calls 30 year old women "girls" and who thinks they can look like a "cute femboy" instead of a desperate dumb bitch.

No. 1801276

>>1801274
> A normie woman with plastic surgery would probably have more feminist views about woman's rights
You're such a fucking retard and don't ever bother again pretending you're an authority on anything feminist. Go fucking kill yourself.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1801280

>>1801273
Actually it’s African Masai men who paint their lips and dance for female attention

No. 1801281

>>1801276
Kill yourself first stupid TiF. And stop arguing that women are biologically inclined to mutilate their bodies to fit into society.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1801282

>>1801264
>It's much easier to change yourself than to change the world
okay and how do you change yourself when you're a self-hating 14yo? by growing up, developing some critical thinking skills, getting some life experience, meeting and talking with other women etc. what's actually hilarious is expecting teenagers to have the same understanding of misogyny and feminism as adults.

No. 1801284

>>1801274
I'm not not a tif you moron.
Also you sound like a seething tradthot, aww did you have one the surgeries I mentioned, does it hurt for your implants to be compared to what tifs do to their bodies.
You are beyond brain dead if you think someone like a Kardashian would be more feminist than a tif. They are on the same level.

>butt implants

These are actually very dangerous and leave many women botched.

Nice to know the wannabe instathots trad women are coming out of the woodwork.

>>1801276
Anons are right when they say most anonymous here are tradthots. They don't actually care about feminism. They're just mad that the tif is a "ugly Hairy disgusting monster" instead of a plastic bimbo who still looks 50.

No. 1801285

>>1801281
This stupid trad really thinks everyone here is a tif. Has the saline ruptured and reached your brain? You might need to get that checked out.

No. 1801287

>>1801277
>You are beyond brain dead if you think someone like a Kardashian would be more feminist than a tif.

None of the Kardashian women are calling me a terf and encouraging child mutilation surgeries or scrote access to female spaces or talking about being menstruators so yes they are kek

No. 1801288

>>1801280
Samefag, it’s wodaabe men not masai, my bad

No. 1801290

>>1801285
Your seething hatred for the female body reveals who you are.

No. 1801292

>>1801273
>instra-sexual competitiveness with other women
This is such a meme

No. 1801294

>>1801287
>child
Yeah so much better…like pimping out all their daughters when they are still underage to sell sex-appeal, that only their looks matter , to get extreme copious amounts of plastic surgery the moment they become legal, to live a vapid life. To motivate other women that they also can become famous by doing porn or being naked in a playboy magazine. By letting your sister/daughter date creepy old men.

So much better for children.

Also for some of the things you mentioned tifs don't even care about, your getting your terms mixed up with mtfs.

>>1801290
There is not a bigger hatred than getting plastic surgeries to make your body look more pretty for scrotes.

No. 1801295

>>1801273
And women have been subjugated in all of these societies, I'm well aware misogyny is incredibly old, but I believe if women have pushed as far as we have, we can push further. Humans will always value attractiveness but this is variance to the degree that women and men compared to each other are pressured to take artificial measures to look good. What are the supposed reasons that women biologically must be the sex to take extreme measures of beauty? Men want to have sex with women regardless. In countries where women have more freedoms outside of men, more and more are choosing to not be associated with them. Men have subjugated women and forced us to rely on them for resources, but when women have our own resources, we have the ability to exercise choice in partner. Certainly our biology is what has made us vulnerable to this subjugation, but I have no clue why you think it impossible to advance further given where we have come, women in the middle ages likely never thought our current status to be possible. I'm not sure what purpose your argument even has, "it's all pointless", thanks very helpful
>>1801285
>thinks "women are not biologically inclined to mutilate themselves" is a trad take
it may not be saline, but something is in your brain that shouldn't be there

No. 1801296

>>1801292
Lol ok. Yeah anon, women definitely don't compete with other women for men, nah that doesn't happen. Female bullying doesn't exist. Women just get plastic surgery and wear makeup for funsies

No. 1801297

>>1801292
Biology and Science backs it up. or are you going to act like a tranny and say biology is false.

No. 1801298

tick tock until the caretakers turn off the internet again, man

No. 1801299

>>1801296
Girls bully you because you have autism.

No. 1801300

>>1801295
Don't get me wrong, I do believe changes are possible. I just don't think women want to deal with the bullying and loss of opportunities they receive if they go against that.

Do you know how different I get treated on days I look good and on days I look bad, it's such a huge difference.

No. 1801301

>>1801273
True, but do you think this is healthy and beneficial for women? Should it be encouraged?

No. 1801302

>>1801294
I'm not arguing that Kardashians are the pinnacle of feminism, but they are not throwing the female class under the bus like TiFs are. Look at someone like Ellen Page, the way she no longer talks about women's rights At All. The way she has just abandoned women and lesbians. A TiF's self-hatred and misogyny against women hurts more than a woman pimping out her family (which has happened since the dawn of celebrity)

No. 1801305

>>1801301
Do you think it's beneficial to a male mantis to let himself get eaten alive by the female mantis….

No it's not. But that's how biology is like, it's brutal, wrong and doesn't care about morality. Because if it did then the majority of men wouldn't be pedos and neither would they be closeted homos with a g-spot in their prostate.

No. 1801313

>>1801290
She wasn’t hating on the female body, kek. She was hating on the saline that people, often women, choose to put in their bodies due to societal preassure. You’re an idiot, nonnie. All of it is bad, including TIF surgeries. Women need to stop changing their bodies in hopes of being accepted by society. That’s common feminist talking points, so of course you reek of tradthottery.

As for the contact lenses, I assumed she meant how brown eyed people will wear blue eyed contacts etc. not so they can fucking see you dim wit

No. 1801315

>>1801313
But according to the anon you're defending, women shouldn't stop changing our bodies because we're biologically coded to get plastic surgery and wear makeup.

No. 1801316

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I don’t understand this logic at all.

No. 1801320

>>1801009
Have you ever spoken to a TIF that detransitioned and asked what led her to transition in the first place?

No. 1801321

>>1801313
yes I was talking about those types of contact lenses that people mainly use to look like they have blue or green eyes. Many brown influencers are obsessed with blue contact lenses or they do eye lightening surgery which has a high chance of leaving people blind.

No. 1801322

>>1801300
I certainly don't have any delusions about being able to change the status quo quickly, I agree that women currently have it very difficult attempting to go against the status quo. I take issue with the idea that women have some inherent biological imperative to be the sex taking extreme measures to look beautiful. Men have taken advantage of us through our biology and oppressed us for thousands of years, and one of our currently remaining shackles is that of beauty. If other shackles have been removed in parts of the world with time and effort, this one can too. I don't get the utility or logic behind trying to argue that Things Will Always Be Like This
>>1801315
exactly, useless defeatism in the thread

No. 1801323

>>1801305
>Do you think it's beneficial to a male mantis to let himself get eaten alive by the female mantis….
well it's beneficial for the continuity of the species because then the female can feed herself and her offspring. the same can't be said of the current pornification of women and all the beauty standards pushed on them, quite the contrary because you end up with TIFs, teenagers riddled with complexes and actual mental illnesses such as EDs, coombrained men etc.

No. 1801324

>>1801315
She never said we were biologically coded, where did she say that? It’s all a part of social contagion, that isn’t biological, nonna.

No. 1801325

Why are you all taking obvious bait from what is likely a kiwimoid or self hating TIF? I thought anons were smarter than this. Stop replying to bait and shitting up the thread.

No. 1801326

>>1801316
>very gender
u wot

No. 1801328

>>1801316
these people are retarded

No. 1801329

>>1801323
There is a overpopulation problem. Men and women nagging other women to feel ugly and always try to be the most beautiful and perfect does benefit men in mating strategies because it allows them access to women because those women think they are just as ugly as whatever men that want to impregnate her.

That's why when you look at so many couples the women tends to be the better looking one and in rare cases where the man is hotter then the woman gets bullied by men and other women for daring to date a attractive guy when is "ugly".

No. 1801330

>>1801299
Denying it won't make it not true kek(learn2sage)

No. 1801331

>>1801323
It's also beneficial for the continuity of the species for as many males as possible to have sex with as many females as possible, which is why the human race has been so reproductively successful aka "overpopulated", which is why patriarchy exists as the other anon pointed out

No. 1801332

>>1801313
>All of it is bad, including TIF surgeries.

Nah, TiF surgeries are worse because of the anti-female death cult ideology its attached to, and having the passing thought that wearing colored contacts would even be comparable is retarded.

Anon wanted to paint TiF surgeries as equivalent to any other self-hating plastic surgery and beauty practices women go through which is not true. TiF mutilation is closest to anorexia, if we're comparing.

No. 1801333

>>1801323
true and based but also I care 100x more about women than the continuity of the species and I think all the women in Korea not having kids and saying a sexist society deserves to collapse are mega based
>>1801325
You're right, I can't tell whether its real or an artificial meatsock but this thread smells like unwashed penis

No. 1801334

>>1801323
>same can't be said of the current pornification of women and all the beauty standards pushed on them

See this is your problem. You literally think this is a "new" thing. It's not. Men have always been coomer brained and women have always had to do risky things to their bodies so a man can coom.

No. 1801337

>>1801332
You sure seem hyporfocused on the colored contacts. This is like your third time mentioning that. Colored contacts was one of the many other things I mentioned in my example, not the only thing.

Do you know what a procedure is? Do you know how a procedure looks like? There are many health risks. Boob jobs have been shown to give women health issues and many women die from having a bbl.

You trying to paint plastic surgery as better is….weird.

No. 1801343

>>1801334
NTA Right and will women will continue to do so because the majority of women are attracted to males. So of course they’re going to go to any length to fit whatever it is men currently deem attractive. This is what that other anon meant when she was talking about innate biology.

No. 1801344

Dropped this in mtf but relevant here. Enjoy the new jubilee vid

No. 1801345

>>1801332
Nona, you really think removing breasts is worse than inserting foreign materials like saline into our bodies, that could possibly rupture? A lot of women get mastectomies to avoid developing breast cancer. What benefit does having silicone inserted into your body have? I’m excited to hear your answer.

No. 1801348

>>1801332
Women who get plastic surgery are also anti female, because they seem to think women must look a certain way to be seen as worth of love, act like noses that aren’t Disney princess style are ugly, etc. I hate them for similar reasons why I hate TIMs, and I’m more likely to pity a tif because of this.

No. 1801349

>>1801343
and yet the majority of men are attracted to women but don't give a flying fuck if they're physically attractive to us, the more power women gain the less we will be beholden to our social value being attached to attractiveness to men

No. 1801350

>>1801345
Chopping off your breasts is worse if it's not part of cancer treatment and only for aesthetic reasons. Chopping off any body part is bad and should be the last resort. A lot of dead/numb/scar tissue and complete loss of nipple sensation is terrible. Silicone and breast implants aren't good either though.

No. 1801352

>>1801350
They’re equally as bad, but I’d say that making breasts or butts bigger to the point of willing to risk your life like a BBL entails, is much worse. It’s rare for a woman to die from a masectomy she gets regardless of the reasons, compared to what? 40% of women dying from BBLs, yet they’re still not banned?
What health benefit even comes from having a man jam a needle into your ass fat to shape it as HE sees desirable? It’s repulsive and much worse than a woman who removes her breasts for any reason- though you’re right, none of these things are healthy or sane to do.

No. 1801353

>>1801345
>to avoid developing breast cancer.
This is kinda meme logic. Removing a body part to "prevent developing" cancer is stupid, it's like removing your clitoris to prevent vulvar cancer or something. Body parts should only be removed if cancer has already shown up, not just hacking them off for fun because something might pop up in the future.

No. 1801354

>>1801353
And yet, many women including Angelina Jolie have had mastectomies to avoid developing breast cancer. It isn’t meme logic just because you don’t understand it, kek.

No. 1801360

>>1801345
Daily reminder that a anon here literally posted a picture of a old woman that had a mastectomy after having cancer and said how disgusting that was and gave it as a example of tifs with "bad tit chops" which is offensive on so many levels.

Tells you all you need to know. Yes this place is filled with tradthots who think women disfiguring themselves is okay as long as they are doing that to be sexy for men. Remember if you do dangerous procedure it's okay as long as you identify as a woman

No. 1801361

>>1801354
I don't really use what Angelina Jolie does as a model for rational decisions. It's irrational to remove a body part for no reason. Why not just chop off any body part to prevent cancer in them then? It doesn't make sense except as a way for doctors to make money from unnecessary procedures on women's bodies.

No. 1801366

>>1801362
These women don’t do it for no reason, they do it because they’re mentally unwell and feel trapped in their own bodies, even if they don’t hate other women. Blogpost incoming, but I’m a detrans woman, and I hated having huge breasts, and how it made even doing athletics hard. I wonder how many nonnas who get upset at mastectomies even know what it’s like to struggle with having breasts that aren’t an easy size to deal with, because a lot of TIFs including myself, have often had this issue- I hardly knew anyone that would have even been able to get the keyhole surgery. I don’t think every TIF removes her breasts because of hating women either- I was a tomboy with issues, not once did my doctor suggest a simple breast reduction.
I don’t mean to rant, but I wanted to give some insight despite the very real likelihood of no one caring. Can we please go back to laughong at cringey delusional women now who believe they’re men?

No. 1801367

>>1801360
>a anon here literally posted a picture of a old woman that had a mastectomy after having cancer and said how disgusting that was
??? when was this?

No. 1801368

>>1801361
>>1801353
not to continue the derail but this is such a reach. healthy breasts are only removed if family history or genetic dna shows increased chance of cancer, these genes tend to run in Ashkenazi Jews and lead to an over 1/2 chance of developing breast cancer in a lifetime. for some people breast cancer is not a question of if, but when. google brca1 and 2 im begging you

No. 1801369

>>1801361
Jolie has a genetic mutation called BRCA, makes it much it likely she’d would get breast cancer. Sry for blogpost but a lot of women in my family have died from it, it’s not irrational to take precautions like that when it can prevent terminal cancer.

No. 1801370

>>1801366
If we're going to criticize the concept of transitioning, we have to be able to criticize the surgeries that come with it as well. Even if they're necessary for some medical conditions, unnecessary mastectomies in healthy women are bad for women's health and women's wellbeing. Scar tissue, loss of nipple sensation or entire sensation in the breast, and inability to breastfeed aren't small losses, as I'm sure you know. It's alarming how many people in this thread will grasp how fucked up "transitioning" is, but apparently get defensive when anons criticize mastectomy which is now being pushed for any and every reason to young women.

No. 1801373

>>1801361
You realize that there’s hereditary, genetic predisposition that can be tested for with a 50%-90% chance of developing breast cancer, right? You know that’s why they ask you at the doctor if any women in your family had breast cancer? I feel as though most women know that.

No. 1801377

>>1801370
I agree, I get defensive about it though because I have felt preassure to get a boob job after transitioning, while I detransitioned, and I find that it isn’t the right answer either. I wouldn’t be able to breastfeed either, but nor would a woman who only ever got implants.
I have more of an issue with the ideologies that lead us to change our bodies, regardless of what it is. I think there’s a very real issue of detransitioners not learning these lessons though. I appreciate your answer, it was very kind, though I didn’t expect that either.

>>1801367
Pretty sure it was in the last two threads, I saw what nonnie was talking about the other day.

No. 1801378

>>1801348
Hating women for trying to assimilate into a society that hates them and everything about their bodies is so counterproductive and retarded. Do you feel radical saying this melodramatic shit? You are the other side of this same coin.

No. 1801379

>>1801378
At least I didn’t encourage a pornified view of women like the ones who risk their lives to get a bigger ass do, all because they saw the Kardashians do it. I have very little sympathy for OSA women, and the surgeries they get to further sexualize their existences for men all at the expense of other women who refuse to edit their bodies either which way.
I may have been the other side of the same coin, but I have clarity unlike the trads in this thread.

No. 1801382

>>1801378
Sorry your boob job didn't fix your life

No. 1801384

>>1801382
Nta but saying this type of shit isn't ok. It's also not ok to say "sorry your tit chop didn't fix your life". Stop being so unsympathetic to women trying to make their way in a misogynist world, whether by pornifying their bodies or wanting to completely erase any trace of femaleness from them.

No. 1801386

>>1801384
It isn’t “okay“ but I did laugh, at the end of the day it’s ridiculous to expect any cosmetic surgery to improve one’s life and it’s cringe for women to act better because they chose to get implants instead of a chop, when the implant could rupture kek.

No. 1801397

>>1801384
Lol nonny you must be a coping tid bc these bitches dont deserve sympathy when they literally hate other women and think they are above us and actively work to undermine our rights and safety. There is plenty of evidence that this shit doesnt work but these deluded shitbrains actively ignore it in the pursuit of becoming the ultimate nlog and living out their yaoi fantasy at the expense of everyone else. Literally read the threads

No. 1801398

>>1801384
I advise you and all women to grow a spine and stop mutilating themselves

No. 1801399

>>1801397
IG thots who get BBLs are no different than the roided out fujos kek

No. 1801400

>>1801378
Don’t worry about it anon, there are always a handful of self-hating tifs in these threads who feel the need to lash out at regular women. Look at the anon comparing a woman with plastic surgery to a tim and saying that tifs deserve more sympathy than regular women- only a crazy handmaiden or another tranny would do that. Especially after the shooting incident there’s way many more of them. There’s need to get riled up, we’re all here to laugh at delusional tifs, even themselves.

No. 1801405

wtf is going on in this thread

No. 1801406

>>1801400
I’m a detrans woman. Maybe the reason why I struggle to have sympathy for women who parade as bimbos and celebrate plastic surgery are as immoral as TIMs are because they… do the same thing? TIMs are more insidious, but the amount of women who asked me when I’d be fixing my chest have blackpilled me. I’m here to laugh at fujoshis and deluded women, but it’s funny whenever a trad woman acts like she’s better when she’s just as toxic as the TIMs I’ve known. Does it hurt your feelings to know that some women just don’t give a crap about women who mutilate their bodies for the male gaze?

No. 1801407

>>1801405
I don't know but it's shameful. I've been reporting the infighting for hours, mods seem to be asleep.

No. 1801408

>>1801406
>trad woman
>plastic surgery

so we are just throwing out random buzz words and hoping one sticks now?

No. 1801410

>>1801408
I’m talking about traditionalists, but I have seen trad women, or self proclaimed trad women get plastic surgery, just like I’ve heard of self proclaimed “lesbians” sucking TIM dick.

No. 1801411

>>1801405
Self-hating tifs and kiwi scrotes have been derailing ever since the thread blew up days ago

No. 1801414

>>1801400
Your posts are really distinguishable. Give it a rest and quit accessing everyone of being tifs, lunatic tradthot. No one cares about your botched boob job.

No. 1801416

>>1801414
Nona I feel the solidarity with you. I wish we could share a bag of potato chips.

No. 1801420

>>1801411
I just want the damn manifesto to be released already so we can have some sincere milk…

No. 1801422

>>1801420
i just want to know what she was thinking…it's crazy there's no trace of a blog or online ramblings or anything…i still feel like she was radicalized of course…

No. 1801423

>>1801420
i just want to know what she was thinking…it's crazy there's no trace of a blog or online ramblings or anything…i still feel like she was radicalized of course…

No. 1801426

>>1801420
I’m pretty sure they’re editing it so they don’t cause copycat shootings.

No. 1801458

>>1801366
>I’m a detrans woman, and I hated having huge breasts, and how it made even doing athletics hard
>a lot of TIFs including myself, have often had this issue
Allow me to blogpost at your blogpost, made me think of something I've been wanting to talk about but not knowing where to. I've been wanting to reduce mine for a while for practical reasons but then I think I started confusing wanting this with troon shit and it developed into wanting a medically unnecessary mastectomy. Obviously I'm peaking now and thankfully I was never the woman hating flavor of aiden, but I'm still in a weird place about this, though hoping to get better

No. 1801469

>>1801245
>>1801252
>I feel like the tide of focus is now being directed from mtf to ftm
You're both stupid. Whether your pro-trans, anit-trans, left wing, right wing your focus will always be on MtFs/TiMs. The public will always be more aware of TiMs. How many normies remember that Cher and Sonny Bono's daughter Chastity became a man named Chaz in 2010? Those same normies, however, know Bruce Jenner is now Caitlyn Jenner. How many normies know who Elliot Paige is?

>obsessing about young girls breasts being removed

Allison Bailey, one of the founders of the LGB Alliance, voiced this concern. She was called a pedophile by TRAs. It is a concern as Bailey put it, these girls will have a double mastectomy before they experience intimacy. Same with adolescent TiMs like Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras who get GRS before ever experiencing a orgasm.

No. 1801472

>>1801334
yes, men watching hardcore porn from the day they turn 11 and women trying to look like filtered anime characters is a new thing. people wanting to look well groomed is not comparable to cosmetic surgeries being pushed on teenagers, some of which starve themselves or troon out to escape beauty standards. civilization will not collapse tomorrow if women refuse to let things get even worse. men are actually able to coom to women as they are if they don't fry their brains on porn and tiktok filters. also the appeal to nature is kinda retarded, we can justify literally any behavior just by saying "humans have always done X, surely it's natural and we have to accept it". plus some of the most extreme past beauty rituals that have been cited previously were only for the highest classes of society, not for (almost) all women like it is right now.

>>1801349
this!

No. 1801482

>>1801331
This is false. More reproduction is a MGTOW pickme retard talking point that is false. The best gene fitness is selected for in populations. Allowing all runt males to breed is deleterious to a species and wastes resources. Likewise nearly all females are valuable because of their ability to child rear, ability to cooperate and their capacity to bare children. Males are not, and are easily usurped/killable and replaceable.

No. 1801483

>>1801469
>Same with adolescent TiMs like Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras who get GRS before ever experiencing a orgasm.
This is so sad. Are they even able to get off in a satisfying way with a neovagina?

No. 1801485

>>1801297
incel-tier overgeneralizing pop science is about as scientific as the tranny born in the wrong body or the sex is a spectrum ackhually arguments. spend less time listening to Jordan Peterson and maybe you'll become less of a moron.

No. 1801486

>>1801316
reminds me of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroni_(fashion)

>They would refer to anything that was fashionable or à la mode as "very maccaroni".

No. 1801488

>>1800905
>>1801171
nona, thank you for your masterful post, you've got great humor. I read every word and am now deeply invested, could you post in the personal lolcow thread? I'm having trouble keeping all the accounts straight and would love any more lore you're willing to share. Thank for again for gracing us with her true wattpad supernatural insanity, I'm off to lurk papadiaries

No. 1801493

>>1801482
Anon said perpetuation of the species, not the best genetically fit children. Likewise I hate this argument because
1.) Usually the most "genetically fit" in darwinist terms males are just the strongest males most able to beat up other males and it also means they are able to rape or monopolize the most women before getting killed
2.) This assumes that everyone not capable of reproducing at the moment is worthless and supposed to be killed off which means nearly all women over the age of 45 are also worthless and deserve to die
3.) In eugenics (basically what you're talking about), it's not only the genetic runt males that shouldn't breed but also the genetic runt females. Bad genetics don't only apply to males

No. 1801500

>>1801033
>They think they are "better" at being a cute boy than real boys and that gives them confidence.
Because it's literally how it is, tomboys are objectively cuter "boys" than actual males. Look at femboy subreddits, all the cute "femboys" are actual women while the males look like retarded gigahons.

No. 1801505

>>1800447
The men described here are often called pedophiles themselves though.

No. 1801507

>>1801344
I don't get how these fucking TIFS push out babies and then go "oh I'm dad now". It should be considered child abuse. Those kids might be cool with it at 8 but they are going to have so many issues later on.

No. 1801510

>>1801406
You're reaching to relieve your guilt en you still have some serious misogyny ingrained in you nonnie. You are dismissing other women now no longer as terfs but as "trads" and "bimbos" now. You are delusional if you think skinwalking TIMs, destroying women's rights and getting off on making women uncomfortable, aren't way more toxic then some desperate women chasing beauty and immortality

No. 1801520

>>1801331
What's wrong with OPs assertion many pickme trad thots botch themselves, why make a bizarre distinction that doesn't exist?. Some of the most prolific misogynist trad thots are botched e.g Lauren Southern.

>>1801331
>>1801305
>>1801408
>>1801290
>>1801273
>>1801296
>>1801297
>>1801330
This thread is an absolute misogynistic dumpster fire of shitting on women, catty unsaged infighting, supporting retarded MGTOW "sexual market" shit aka women are catty and compete against each other for plastic surgery attracted moids, misogynistic libfem and retarded pickme appeals to nature about tit implants, defending moids coomerism with epic science and logic or evolutionary biology according to moid logic, and shitting on autistics including accusations that everyone and their uncle is autistic because xyz. One has to ask if you are spewing low emotional intelligence shit about other women as cruel as a moid maybe you're on the spectrum too. Unlike retarded 4chan, KF moids I see nothing gained from bashing female autistics. Women are already shit on from all sides, why add to the pile like an average moid? This thread is full of misogynyistic retards concealing their misogyny under the guise of hating trannies, in the case of the one retard arguing all women are catty stupid bimbos that compete to have the biggest surgically inflated ass as the nature female competition I can only kek. Hales manifesto can not come any sooner. Also the retard complaining about women removing their breasts over germ line caused mutant forms of breast cancer needs to eat a cactus. Though I think this entire thread should be nuked, fuck it, it's already a complete mess who cares at this point?

>>1801493
I'm not advocating for eugenics, I'm arguing that allowing males to breed indefinitely is not "evolutionary superior", which is quite obvious as it's retarded. You are a retard if you assume that females of species cease being valuable after menopause. Regardless of what moid copes will tell you females are always more valuable than males because they do not murder each other commonly in humans. Reproductive fitness doesn't apply to females, in fact most mammals do not undergo menopause, humans are an outlier in that they've adapted menopause purposefully, yes it was selected for how's that work against your perpetuating the species rape ape logic? Menopause was purposefully selected for and modern humans adapted a valuable system of child rearing so that older females are always fulfilling a valuable role. Females are always more valuable than the males of a species because they are capable of all things that males can do in a civilized world with technology and knowledge without raping, murdering and mass killing each other. The perpetuation of a species is not the barometer it's success, it is for a bacterium but not for the human race. Only the pathetic runt of the litter would tell you this, though I'm sure applying the logic of rape apes applies to a highly intelligent species like the human race, rape ape defending classical genetics anon. This is the most retarded eugenics moid shit I've read insofar. It's literal MGTOW shit, so I'm baffled you'd assume I'm advocating for eugenics. I'm advocating for common decency and reality, not your moid celebratory envisioned idea of the human race. It's painfully self explanatory why females are more valuable than males in the human species it doesn't even need to be discussed, we all know it we see it everyday in crime statistics.

No. 1801522

Holy hell you're all a bunch of autists. Can't wait for you newfags to fuck off again. This is an image board not fucking reddit. No one cares about your retard opinions about anything. Post some milk or gtfo.

No. 1801524

>>1801520
Ironically, this long fail effortpost is the biggest dump of autism in this thread

No. 1801525

>>1801273
>middle ages
>tight corset
Girl go back to school and follow history lessons carefully this time.

No. 1801526

>>1801353
Haha yeah you're right, I shouldn't have had my gigantic fibroadenoma removed with surgery to avoid getting breast cancer in my 20s, which my great grandma and my grandma caught young, I should have waited until it got so big that it could have hidden any signs of other actual cancerous tumors. How silly of me! No but seriously anon don't you know there are women out there who are at greater risk of breast cancer than the general population because they have shitty genes? How old are you?

No. 1801529

Can we stop comparing women with cancer with teenage insecure women willfully cutting their boobs off because "ewww woman icky"? Also it's hilarious how some tifs/trootrans come here to laugh at other tifs, not realizing that they're looking in the mirror.

No. 1801538

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>>1801529
to be fair nona, i was a trutrans/truscum when I came here a few years ago. these threads did a lot in starting me on desisting and learning about radical feminism. to every trannie lurking this thread, see you on the other side in a few years!

milk tax

No. 1801553

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tifs make the worst memes

No. 1801556

>>1801553
Not only is this a shit meme but also it shows with what carelessness they treat their female body parts as if they're trash to be thrown away

No. 1801574

>>1801556
It might not be that. I think breasts and other secondary sex characteristics are triggering for some women who have been raped or abused or sexually harassed, or are just in FTM cases, dysphoric. I remember trying to flatten my tits during puberty because had been sexually abused in childhood and I absolutely hated the idea of becoming ‘womanly’ and having men and even other women comment on and looking at my body. I remember my neighbor, who was this really loud extra woman from Jamaica, seeing me coming home from school and saying ‘Oh my nona, look at your breasts! You’re growing into a woman! I’m jealous of how perky they are!’ And it legit triggered me for months and made me feel sooooo uncomfortable, even though it’s normal in her culture to say such stuff I guess. I hate trannies but I can understand feeling deeply uncomfortable with your own body, of course the solution is they need therapy and self love, not cutting their boobs off with the help of awful amoral surgeons.

No. 1801575

>>1801353
Don't be fucking stupid. Holy shit, anon.

No. 1801576

>>1801574
Also, while saying this, I am aware there are a small minority of women who have been brainwashed so thoroughly that they genuinely believe femininity and female characteristics to be worthless that they want to throw away all their female traits like trash, which is gross. But even those women were probably abused or groomed and brainwashed by a toxic male in their life from childhood to end up thinking that way, nearly all of these issues lead back to childhood abuse.

No. 1801577

>>1801493
> Usually the most "genetically fit" in darwinist terms males are just the strongest males most able to beat up other males and it also means they are able to rape or monopolize the most women before getting killed
Yeah and this is why Darwinism is such a garbage scrotey system and theory to promote. It dehumanizes humans by reducing them to a pack of upright chimps, and justifies all gross and toxic male behaviors like rape, murder, pedophilia, war etc with its nonsense just-so fallacy.

No. 1801578

>>1801500
This is true actually. TiF prettyboys are generally more attractive than biological male prettyboys.

No. 1801581

>>1801510
>You are delusional if you think skinwalking TIMs, destroying women's rights and getting off on making women uncomfortable, aren't way more toxic then some desperate women chasing beauty and immortality
They are both toxic. At the end of the day there are way more plastic bimbo bio women and MTF trannies than tifs with surgery, and tifs are already so mocked and sidelined even within the LGBT community that their voices are barely heard. Bio female bimbos and tranny moid bimbos do way more harm to women because their image is based off of porn fetishes and designed solely for the male gaze and they dehumanize themselves as walking sex dolls for men to use, which harms all women in the process and increases male entitlement to womens bodies and their standards for what women should look like. Tifs engage in harmful practices too but are mostly ignored or mocked by bio males, and although a tiny amount of them do it for fetish or sex work reasons, generally most of them dont do it for the male gaze.

No. 1801585

>>1801482
Yeah this. I don’t care about eugenics as it’s generally a scrote and polcel subject. But if you want to go at it, women being more selective is actually pure eugenics, as women actually select for things like intelligence, strength, height, good bone structure, body symmetry, adaptability, wit, bravery, independence etc.
Male sexual selection is dysgenic because male sexual preferences are predicated on pedophilia, women being dumb, weak, physically small and frail, passive, submissive, introverted etc.
There are studies that show people are getting taller, more beautiful, smarter etc because of female sexual selection being practiced more widely.
It’s funny how when you bring this up with moid ‘eugenicists’ they shit themselves in rage.

No. 1801590

>>1801493
>>1801577
This is rather false, with Hyenas, Wolves and Chimps, its not really which male is the largest or strongest but which can better work with each to fight off rival males

No. 1801603

Why did the mods not ban some of the unsaged autists ITT

No. 1801607

>>1801590
Please don't use hyenas as an example of anything for humans to model after, like 25% of hyena females die after their first birth splits their penis-shaped clit-vagina open like a banana peel

No. 1801617

>>1801493
Except humans don't exactly aim for a system where the physically strongest win. They can't be compared to any other random species and how it functions. Reproducing/surviving is not an issue anymore for humans in general (plus, things like progress in medicine etc. also contributes to survival in more sophisticated ways than just being stronger than your neighbor), and the goal is the improvement of their living conditions and society. In most socities this is obviously not achieved by selecting some hulking brute most likely to be violent to you and your children and reproducing mindlessly with him.

No. 1801657

>>1801273
>intra-sexual competivness

Kek don’t tell me this is the same retard from last time who was arguing with anons on /ot/

No. 1801661

>>1801553
huh, what a manly male masculine meme, about claire’s

No. 1801667

>>1801581
Shut the fuck up. Go back to your intersectional/tif forums. "bimbos"?! "bio males" "sex work"? You're in the wrong place you dumb misogynistic bitch. Every man is "bio man". Prostitution is commercialised rape not "sex work". Only scrotes demean women as bimbos. Fuck the fuck off.

No. 1801714

>>1801667
not even that anon and i dont care about your autistic infighting with the other anons. But you are that kardashian anon who keeps calling other anons bitches…now let me ask you would you keep calling them bitches if they were male.

No. 1801722

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Looks like it was a Dylan cosplay and she had Randy Stair accuracy.

No. 1801724

>>1801722
>Dylan cosplay
my first thought was Dylan Mulvaney and not Klebold kek. spent too much time on these troon threads recently.

No. 1801762

>>1801524
Excellent response, it really made me question the purpose of this thread by adding to the meaningless infighting and scrote muh autism accusation shit. Snow was a mistake.

No. 1801765

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TIF MacHale joining the new cast of Doctor Who

No. 1801767

>>1801724
When I was in my cringey true crime phase like 7 years ago and ran a tumblr (before it got nuked), I would say 90% of my followers were FTM columbiners. They are seriously obsessed with school shooters and that recent shooting at the Christian school being committed by a TIF didn’t surprise me in the slightest.

No. 1801769

>>1801765
I forgot this show was still airing.

No. 1801784

>>1801714
That's not me retard.And I don't call men bitches I call them pigs.

No. 1801788

>>1801762
>calling someone autistic means you're a scrote
anon… kek

No. 1801791

>>1801722
Everything about this is so weird.

No. 1801808

>>1801722
randy stair was a fulltime dylan impersonator. sorry audrey that title has been claimed

No. 1801812

>>1801095
“Buying shit to perform your gender” isn’t the same as performing your gender, which can be done as simply as putting flowers in one’s hair or cutting one’s hair/beard to be shorter, which are both things that could be done on a deserted island. There’s multiple examples of folks who have been deserted on islands before yet still made attempts to perform their gender as an attempt to return to normalcy or make the best of their situation. If your only concept of “performing gender” is buying shit online, your issue isn’t with TIFs, it’s with consumerism culture.("true and honest" blogposting needs to end, nobody cares, read the OP)

No. 1801814

>>1801812
Could you at least sage this retarded hypothetical? nobody is putting damn flowers in their hair to "perform their gender" as a woman while shipwrecked on an island. obvious trannies desperate for validation have been terrorizing this thread for a week now. take it back to twitter

No. 1801822

>>1801812
Amazing, so you can be sexist without money. Good for you retard.

No. 1801823

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No. 1801832

>>1801823
KEK ily so fucking much for this nonna

No. 1801835

>>1801812
While I agree with you nonnie, I think what you’re saying is still practicing sexism like another Nona said.

No. 1801841

File: 1680563811251.png (5.02 KB, 531x171, Untitled.png)

i fucking hate the way these people talk

names censored because private chat

No. 1801850

>>1801841
They're all copy and paste.

No. 1801852

>>1801850
truly they can only speak in dorky internet meme language

No. 1801872

>>1801812
You're assuming that everyone agrees that cutting your hair on a deserted island is "performing your gender", when most people would associate it with cleanliness and convenience. "Gender" relies entirely on sexist stereotypes being upheld by a group. If there aren't TRAs cheering on a man who puts a flower in his hair and promising him that he's totally female now, this action lose all meaning. You're trying to support gender ideology by claiming that women perform femininity just as much if there's nobody around, but everything points to the opposite. Makeup sales and use decreased during COVID, working from home is associated with staying in pajamas, winter is associated with not shaving as much etc., and all of this even though women don't live on deserted islands and are taught to perform femininity since their teenage years.

No. 1801876

>>1801872
What that anon said was stupid, but gender is performed in all societies on earth, not usually by clothing but by reproductive labor/division of labor. Women take care of children and are the primary caretakers and do light work to not put their (and their children's) lives in danger while men do other, more taxing, life-risking work in all societies and that's really the way societies across the world unanimously "perform" gender.

No. 1801879

>>1801812
So what gender are you performing if you cut your hair and tuck a flower behind your ear, kek?

No. 1801892

File: 1680569706130.jpeg (126.25 KB, 863x1331, ED9DFF86-2EF6-48DF-AC6E-80D295…)

One of my ex art mutuals became a shotafag and simultaneously trooned out. I wonder why.

No. 1801894

>>1801397
I'm sorry but you stupid bitches are truly starting to sound like incels, like for real. The melodrama is embarassing, you're just as over-emotional and aggressive and reactive as the gendies you bitch about.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1801897

>>1801892
You already know why.

No. 1801898

>>1801667
That wasn’t even me, that was someone else kek. Sex work doesn’t exist, it’s all paid rape. I think it’s funny you deem every woman that disagrees with you as a TIF, though. You still sound like a dumb bimbo.

No. 1801900

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>>1801488

aw shucks, you're gonna make me blush nona! you inspired me to mosey over to the personal cow thread and crosspost what i've written + pen a more consistent timeline of accounts: >>>/snow/1801893

but, anyways, in the interest of not getting too sageworthy + staying on topic, i bring another gift: a TIF telling the very real story of how nurses told her husband to fuck her with cum-covered fingers while she was screaming and trying to push a baby out of her boipussy. if this isn't a rewritten excerpt from one of OP's fetish stories i'll eat my fucking hat.

(sidenote in case it's mentioned: yes, sex during early labor/before a woman's water breaks is A Thing that even trad doctors/nurses will recommend to speed things along; fingerfucking your partner with cum-hands while the baby is crowning is very much not.)

No. 1801903

This thread is a fucking disaster what the fuck is going on

No. 1801908

>>1801903
The FTMs have arrived kek.

No. 1801910

>>1801903
kiwifags and tifs that farmhands for some reason are not interested in controlling, apparently.

No. 1801911

File: 1680571272908.gif (8.49 MB, 400x224, b380c20210c96ca055de3178e87ce9…)

>>1801910
The whole thread in a gif.

No. 1801926

>>1801911
This gif makes sense when you notice the tails wagging and realize they're just playing tbh, not actually angry.

No. 1801931

>>1801876
How is this "performing gender" though? Women can give birth and feed their children, men can't but are physically stronger. That's a biological reality and it impacts the division of labor, especially in primitive societies. In modern societies most men don't risk their lives by going to their office jobs, women can do any type of work, and there's no need for everyone to reproduce. A TIM may claim that he's "performing his gender" by taking care of his children but it doesn't make sense because 1) this isn't an ability exclusive to women, 2) women don't have to take care of children or perform any other specific action to be women.

No. 1801940

>>1801926
Dogs can actually be feeling stressed, anxious, angry, or uncomfortable while still wagging their tails. That's why some people are bitten by surprise when they thought "but the dog seemed happy".

Now if the dogs were playing or "protecting a territory" or something, that's another thing. But I think if the grid get closed again, the dogs would start to bark again.

No. 1801954

>>1801926
Dogs wag their tails when they’re excited, I’ve seen tails wagging when a dog is in the process of mauling someone. Don’t think it just means an animal is happy because they could be stimulated by any number of reasons and show energy from any type of emotion, positive or negative.

No. 1801955

I think there’s been a lot of infighting happening because everyone is waiting on that damn manifesto. Does it normally take this long to release it?

No. 1801963

>>1801931
I like how you said they weren't performing gender and then began to list off all the ways that in modern societies it is performing gender because it's unnecessary lmao. Just because something is based in biology doesn't mean it can't be exaggerated through performance in the division of labor just like women can be promiscuous even though sex is costlier for us because we get pregnant which means we should biologically be more prudent. Men are able to care for children and forage, they just usually don't. Women are able to do dangerous and risky jobs and risk their lives, they just usually don't.
>most men don't risk their lives by going to their office jobs,
No, but men make up the majority of the workforce in dangerous occupations
>women can do any type of work,
Except women usually don't do dangerous jobs for… the reasons both you and I mentioned, still
>there's no need for everyone to reproduce.
There's never a need for everyone or even anyone to reproduce. People literally continue the human species just because they want to, there's no rationale behind it

No. 1801964

>>1801963
Samefag, I mean performing gender in this case not in the trans sense, but performing gender roles

No. 1802009

>>1801963
>>1801964
Well it was confusing because you replied to a post where "gender" was used in the tranny sense. Only women are capable of giving birth so it will always be a "role" that only women can have, and men are physically stronger so they will always be more suited for physically demanding jobs. It's a biological reality. It starts becoming an ideology when women's actions are artificially restricted, a performance of "femininity" is requested of them, men are given more freedoms etc. So yes unnecessary gender roles & stereotypes still exist but I'm not sure that was the best example of it and I don't see how it relates to the initial argument about trannies "performing gender" on an island by putting flowers in their hair.
>There's never a need for everyone or even anyone to reproduce. People literally continue the human species just because they want to, there's no rationale behind it
There is in fact a need to reproduce for a species to be perpetuated, that's an instinct animals have, but unlike a lot of other animals, humans don't rely on reproducing as much as possible to survive (in modern societies) and they can see beyond their instinct. The more a society is developed and the less people reproduce for this reason.

No. 1802013

>>1802009
>Well it was confusing because you replied to a post where "gender" was used in the tranny sense.
We weren't, we were talking about labor differences in gender
>It starts becoming an ideology when women's actions are artificially restricted, a performance of "femininity" is requested of them, men are given more freedoms etc.
I guess the question is when does it stop being biological and start being a social construct? You and the other person already agreed that women are biologically tied down and tied with children. That in itself means "less freedom" in a sense: on top of taking care of yourself and watching your own back, you'll have to also look out for a small, dependant human too and provide food and care for it. Men don't have to do that and don't in most societies
>I don't see how it relates to the initial argument about trannies "performing gender" on an island by putting flowers in their hair.
Did you even read the chain of posts? I said what that anon said was stupid because the heaviest gender division isn't usually clothes, although that is a component, it's labor and types of labor
>There is in fact a need to reproduce for a species to be perpetuated, that's an instinct animals have,
It's not an instinct humans have. Humans have an instinct for sex and masturbation, but we know how to prevent reproduction and often do. Continuing the species isn't an instinct (especially not for women), it's ideological in humans or else we wouldn't be able to control it

No. 1802028

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This girl goes by he/him. I will never understand this chronically online mentality

No. 1802030

>>1802028
internalized misogyny + pickmeism + adopting a coombrained scrotey sense of style

No. 1802037

>>1802013
>We weren't, we were talking about labor differences in gender
You brought up labor differences in reply to this post >>1801872 where I was talking about trannies and women performing femininity so I didn't immediately get that you switched to gender roles but I get it now.
>I guess the question is when does it stop being biological and start being a social construct?
I agree with you.
>It's not an instinct humans have. Humans have an instinct for sex and masturbation
All animals have an instinct for sex because that's what lead to reproduction. That's how species keep going on. Humans are of course different from other animals in their cognitive abilities. They learned how to prevent reproduction and they have sex/masturbate for pleasure. They developed technologies/medicine which extend life expectancy and reduce infant mortality, and people don't need to have as much children as possible for work/survival. I agree that reproduction has always been used by men to restrict women's role/place in society but it doesn't mean that continuing the species is in fact an ideology (which would have been formulated by the first humans everywhere?), it's inherent to all life forms.

No. 1802048

>>1802028
What masculinity is she even talking about? Is she just insecure about something like "my shoulders are a bit too wide and manly and that means I'm a man but I accept that" or does her "masculinity" just mean she hates other women

No. 1802053

>>1802013
>continuing the species isn't an instinct (especially not for women)
I disagree, a lot of people have a very strong innate desire to start a family and that is typically seen more commonly in women. Doesn't mean every person (or woman) feels it strongly or at all but to deny it even exists is odd. Whether "instinct" is the appropriate word can be argued, but it's definitely not just a social construct and something forced upon people.

No. 1802056

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Just some random twitter shit about some tif hoping troons will invade womens' spaces.

No. 1802069

>>1802056
the nona up above earlier ITT was right: at least a sizeable portion of TIFs simply hate women so much they would leave a gate open for a pack of slobbering males to invade and assault.

No. 1802072

>>1802069
Not to mention the "MRA" TIFs who call women shallow bitches every 2 seconds obviously trying to get back at the pretty high school bullies who called them weird by throwing all women under the bus

No. 1802075

>>1802056
Lol it’s a fucking Swiftie.

No. 1802102

>>1801898
You talk like a retard. I agree, fuck off.

No. 1802104

>>1802056
Kek this retarded bitch doesn't even understand that trannies don't care if she thinks she's a superior male and not some gross weak woman, they will assault her and invade her spaces as well. Imagine trannies all over women's spaces, like shelters and support groups, so women don't go there anymore. Where would be the next place troons will go? Those ftm and nonbinary conventions are 100% female-only spaces. I feel like this is partly why male troons are now invading tumblr, it used to be girl-only space back in the day, and the only "men" there were fakebois. Now I see too fucking much hons in there.

No. 1802105

>>1801955
I doubt they will ever release it because it's too political.

No. 1802108

>>1802105
Maybe that's a good thing? We'd all have to stay curious but if they're still withholding it there's probably stuff in there calling for copycat killings or otherwise likely to inspire them.

No. 1802114

>>1802028
I feel like when girls consume too much sctote-for-sctote shit it damages their mental health in a way, and warps their perception of women and femininity. This girl wants to be feminine, but the only way she knows is to be a coomer-bait e-thot, but she still doesn't want to be a woman because women are shallow dumb bitches, so she calls herself he/them. I guess this is how we got so many e-thots and even e-whores who post half-naked pictures with their tits out but still demand to be referred to as male.

No. 1802193

>>1802048
If you call other women "manly" you're part of the problem btw

No. 1802220

>>1802114
When you say scrote for scrote, do you mean yaoi or RuPaul's drag race

No. 1802227

>>1802220
nta but both yaoi and rpdr has contributed to the mass trooning of girls everywhere. rpdr makes teen girls feel like the only way to be funny, creative, feminine and sexy without being looked at as a cringy cumrag is if you're a man. So they troon out and still remain feminine or start putting on drag makeup and wigs and still demand they're seen as men

No. 1802238

>>1802227
I agree. Whether it's women writing it or just watching and idolizing real gay men like RuPaul, it's toxic and makes them hate being a woman because they project themselves onto gay men and start to want to be one because that's all they ever talk about, read about, write about, watch etc. I had a few friends irl who were like this, obsessing over RuPaul's drag race, adopting the language and calling themselves "tops" and "bottoms" even though they're women, and generally not giving a fuck about women's rights and dedicating all their energy to "gay rights". Unsurprisingly two of them identify as nonbinary now

No. 1802267

>>1802104
There was a news about how some trannies wanted to join a women-only river pool when it was meant for women and kids only. Except they have also another river pool for all public at few steps far of that pool.

That kid will have a horrible awakening when a TIM calls her a woman and to stfu because "she knows more than her about being a woman" even if she claims over and over that she's a man.

No. 1802277

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>>1802056
From the same Tweet:

"Women wanted our spaces to be seen as equal, we didn't let them so now they're making their spaces so we are going to raid their spaces to be equal like them".

I know this is more for /xx/ but what the Hell was that.

No. 1802284

>>1802277
This has to be her fetish. Just like that crazy ass girl pretending to be a pro rape tim. This has to be a fetish for her. I refuse to believe a woman would be this hateful against her own kind

No. 1802289

>>1802277
Public bars are male spaces??

>>1802056
Her face screams "I was bullied by mean girls in high school and now I pretend to be a male so I can feel superior".

No. 1802292

>>1801900
>yes, sex during early labor/before a woman's water breaks is A Thing that even trad doctors/nurses will recommend
During early labor? Wouldn't the woman be in pain/uncomfortable? I've never been pregnant so I wouldn't know of course but it sounds so gross somehow… you're about to give birth and a male gets to coom to "open you up" (I need to gag). Another reason I'll never have kids.

No. 1802298

>>1802292
>Another reason I'll never have kids.
Anon, I dont know if you know this but you dont have to do that during labor. In fact you can do whatever you want. I dont know why thats a reason not to have kids because some stupid reddit autist jacked her husband off in the middle of it

No. 1802314

>>1802298
Sorry anon, I worded it wrong. Among other things (like not feeling like a good mother), the reason I don't want to have kids is also how the mother and her comfort are not prioritized even by medical staff. I know the autist on reddit is making shit up, but other practices are real and considered normal. Shit like the one I quoted, people treating women like broodmares, husbands fleeing as soon as the child is born, doctors worrying about how tight the vagina is for the husband instead of worrying how tired or in pain is the mother. It's just a thing I don't want to experience.

No. 1802342

File: 1680643470060.jpg (217.64 KB, 600x2200, lul2.jpg)

>See cute Drarry fanart
>Comments are surprisingly tame except for one themby claiming the art is supporting violence against trannies
>Another tranny that is a yaoi artist, claims that she's trans and still loves HP
>Themby then tweets about said yaoi art tranny and says she's never getting to heaven KEK
>Themby pictured at the bottom with her "boyfriend" who's obviously just a woman on testosterone (complete with upper arm self harm scars)

I'm amazed there are still women drawing Drarry with the tranny shit going on. Not even trans rights could stop the Drarry coom.
Can someone answer me why these women will still claim the lesbian label despite not wanting the female label? I see this a lot lately.

No. 1802347

>>1802342
There's been an embracement of the fujo label amongst TIFs (and TIMs) lately and a lot of TIFs identify as "transmasc lesbians" just like TIMs will go on grindr and even though it doesn't make sense within the trans ideology they just shrug and go "it's muh LiVeD eXpErIeNcE"

No. 1802348

>>1802342
Why do they always look like they escaped a lunatic asylum and grabbed some random clothes they found on clothes lines after escaping and haven't showered in a week.

No. 1802349

>>1802342
Attaching fandom to social rights movements was the biggest mistake of the 2010s and caused so much of this TiF drama

No. 1802350

>>1802342
Your own fault tbh.

No. 1802364

>>1801344
watching everyone dogpile the traumatized detrans woman is yet another blackpill

No. 1802385

>>1802342
>Drarry
Please get better taste in yaoi I’m begging

No. 1802412

>>1802348
More like they finally escaped their room and grabbed whatever random shit from their musty closet

No. 1802414

>>1802347
I’d rather they date each other and just be weird homosexuals than pretending something they’re not. TiFs calling themselves lesbians and TiMs going on grindr and calling themselves faggot is the best we’re gonna get out of this kind of shit.

No. 1802425

>>1802342
Who’s the artist? IDC about HP but I like the style

No. 1802427

>>1802385
I’m not a Drarry fan, the art showed up on my feed because of someone I was following. Her style is very pretty tho and naturally I wanted to see if she was getting backlash considering lots of other artists are trannies. The drarry thing definitely took me back to the early 2000s era of fujoism.

No. 1802428

>>1802425
The artist is mrotisky!

No. 1802436

>>1801344
23:28 akshully there are several genders, they're celebrated in cultures around the world
Oh not the cultural third gender shit again. Genuinely annoys me when I hear it now. Saged for rant of course. They aren't proof of a million genders, many of them were for males who were eunuchs or homosexual or just effeminate, to perform the female roles of that culture. Sure maybe they can be celebrated for what they are, pieces of cultural history that in some cases were attempted to be erased by colonisers, but they certainly aren't proof of troon shit. Stop forcing them through the western lens of "wow I think historical pee oh see were pure divine gender shifting beings just because their culture is slightly different to what I'm used to." Ironic that it's a poc saying this in the video as well.

>23:51 but intersex people though

And not again with intersex. Intersex people aren't a whole new third sex, they're a combination of the two existing ones.

No. 1802565

>>1802428
Thank you nonna! I like their use of colors.

No. 1802570

>>1802436
>wow I think historical pee oh see were pure divine gender shifting beings just because their culture is slightly different to what I'm used to
This actually reveals how ignorant they are and how they don't care about making other cultures sound "exotic" for the sake of their shitty cult ideology. Most "third genders" were male child prostitutes or gay men who had to be in women's spaces because they weren't considered men enough. It's just plain old bigotry, but it's from another culture (most often a "non-white" one) so it's actually about divine demigod twans ppl!

>they're a combination of the two existing ones.

In most cases it's not even that, they're just underdeveloped males or females. Or people with hormone/chromosomal disorders, who still are either male or female (examples are people with Turner or Klinefelter).

No. 1802575

File: 1680679376807.jpg (108.11 KB, 1170x1062, retars.jpg)

What is that with fakebois trying to "reclaim" the genderspecial memes? They just reinforce the idea that this pronouns thing is just a little trend among girls.

No. 1802578

>>1802575
>uses a insult directed towards women to talk about herself
>doesn't even want to look male
>he/him only tho

No. 1802590

>>1802436
>Intersex people aren't a whole new third sex, they're a combination of the two existing ones.
Intersex people aren't even trans on any level but trans people keep using them as a prop to further their own agenda. They wouldn't even be intersex if they didn't have a developmental disorder mixing characteristics of the 2 existing sexes. A female with an intersex disorder isn't a transwoman or non-binary she's just fucking female and trans people are the ONLY ones denying these women their femalehood saying they're somehow trans by default. Trans people are saying some women are NOT (or less of) a woman literally just because of their disability. That's terrifying and cruel ableism.

No. 1802614

>>1802414
>TiMs going on grindr and calling themselves faggot
Kek tims really are faggots, just like
>TiFs calling themselves lesbians
Really are lesbians as a lot of them only date each other and not actual moids. I just don't understand why they need to jump through another loop and claim they are "transmasc".
I will never let go of a tinfoil that "transmasc/nonbinary 4f4 lesbians" are literally just lesbians who want to stay away from male troons and spicy straight normie girls.
Also I have a tinfoil that "lesbian transmascs" don't want to be normal lesbians because they associate lesbian relationships with retarded scrote gaze porn and/or spice straight e-whores pandering to scrotes but claiming to be SSA.

No. 1802618

File: 1680688720400.jpg (66.95 KB, 1055x1007, IMG_20230405_124533.jpg)

I have a weird tinfoil about how yaoi loving tif4tif girls are actually lesbians who don't understand that they like masculine women. I kinda was like this and I never understood why I couldn't relate to other lesbians who liked normal female characters because I only liked really GNC women, and I read yaoi because a lot of twinks there are so feminine they are basically look like tomboys, and the fact that all the non-normie girls claim to be something else these days didn't help. Also untreated autism.

No. 1802624

>>1802618
Being strictly TIF4TIF would make them lesbian yes because they're strictly attracted to the same sex, but fujo4fujo is a completely different vibe honestly. Most of those girls are less lesbian (more bisexual… they literally spend all their time writing/drawing/thinking about men or male figures in a sexual context) and more disturbed by the unequal dynamics of mainstream heterosexuality so they just settle for another girl similar to themselves who understands what they're into.

No. 1802627

>>1802618
Another thing that needs to be considered with tif4tif or fujo4fujo is that their "relationships" are often online discord edating situations or are otherwise wholly non sexual. Theres a big overlap with them being "asexual" as well. I do kind of agree with you but I think this only 100% applies to tif4tifs who are not terminally online and are more active in real life dating circles. Its not uncommon to find tifs in lesbian scenes and the lesbians there do see them as fellow lesbians. This is kind of how tifs were pre 00s as well. So yea I do agree with your tinfoil but the number of tifs this applies to is very small and getting smaller

No. 1802637

> There's a big overlap with them being "asexual" as well.
Do any of you nonnas have tinfoils about why so many tifs are "asexual" (besides trauma)? Is that an autism thing or they just can't find a partner they would want to fuck?

No. 1802640

>>1802637
1. Sterilization and/or hysterectomy can lead to asexuality
2. A lot of TIFs are autistic, a lot of autistic people are asexual
3. Of course, female sexuality in general being stigmatized
4. Them being secretly straight but only wanting to fuck gay men (this happens a lot??) but getting rejected thus being fujosexual aka asexual

No. 1802665

>>1802640
very good summary nona. Adding
5. They troon out because they hate their bodies (BDD, ED, GD) and can't even fathom ever being comfortable having sex with another person so they identify as asexual to not have to deal with it

No. 1802684

>>1802637
A lot of TIFs are young and imho there's nothing surprising about teenage girls not feeling particularly sexual, especially when they hate themselves and their bodies. Also, teenager or not, a lot of self-identified asexuals seem to imagine that other people are in a constant state of arousal from just seeing random conventionally attractive people IRL. Idk if they're truly clueless or if this is just another way of feeling special and different. They always end up making exceptions for when it's okay for them to feel horny ("you wouldn't get it, I like sex and masturbation and I have a partner but I don't feel attraction like other people!!1") which is why "asexuality" is a spectrum (like everything else at this point kek) and basically lost all meaning.

No. 1802698

>>1802665
I would also add
6. They got on the pill to help with acne and it ruined their sex drive
7. They are weirdo's and no one is interested in them and it's just less embarrassing to say "I'm asexual" than noone wants to touch me because I creep everyone out

No. 1802706

File: 1680703707027.png (60.9 KB, 985x853, wtf.png)

Don't know if it's been posted already but I saw this article. Most of it is saying things that are already known/obvious but I found it interesting that they are using they/them and even male pronouns for her in this particular article. Also it seems to have been confirmed that this was inspired by past incidents… tinfoil but maybe she was a school shooter stan on an alt tumblr like some anons have been saying?

link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/cops-reveal-chilling-details-nashville-192940499.html?

No. 1802726

>>1802618
>usually 5'2-5'4
so average height? what a weird thing to stereotype kek

No. 1802730

>>1802414
This this this. Literally the best outcome for this whole shit.

No. 1802735

>>1802726
Bc it's below average height for men and they want to be men

No. 1802737

>>1802640
>fujosexual aka asexual
It made me kek

No. 1802739

>>1802726
Bc it's below average height for men and they want to be men

No. 1802740

>>1802640
>fujosexual aka asexual
It made me kek

No. 1802744

>>1802706
What I'm getting :
>hated the school
Reason for target
>considered the actions of other mass shooters
Columbine fangirl, explains the method
>friend died + preexisting "mood disorder" (makes no mention of her past stalking though kek)
Why she snapped now

No. 1802748

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someone please help this girl with her trauma

No. 1802749

>>1802637
i think the other replies have good points but i also honestly think it's mostly just that women tend to have lower libidos and TIFs are more likely to call that asexual because you know why

No. 1802755

>>1802665
honestly feels like this applies to my friend. she claims she's asexual because she has never been attracted to either men or women, and is apparently grossed out by both genitalia. fast forward a few months later, she's dating a man kek. genuinely feels like straight girls claim theyre asexual just because they want to "date" men but not actually fuck them. they're uncomfortable with the idea of sex and think that admitting they're straight means they're making themselves sexually available to men. you can be attracted to men but not want to engage in sexual activities with any man you meet, it doesn't make you any less straight, it just means you have standards (like most people do). really feels like people just slap the asexual label on themselves because the idea of sex irl scares them (while they constantly read and draw porn of fictional characters).

No. 1802757

Sarah squirm and Molly the two enbies on snl performed a sketch that was spoofing sexual harassment at the workplace where they acted like over the top cartoon leches that made sexual harassment in the workplace seem overblown and easily dismissed and it comes off as an excuse to sexually humiliate a costar like how a man gets to, like a tif fantasy of getting to do some misogyny.

No. 1802763

>>1800292
crazy that this wasn't the first option for the surgery. sadly i think it's a sign that actual competent surgeons are getting in on the goldmine since the unethical first wave isn't getting punished

No. 1802779

Sorry if this is the wrong thread and if they've been posted before but I had no idea where the fuck to put these two. @lesbiansnowwhite is somehow a non-binary lesbian and her.. whatever this thing is that she is dating is a girl, but I guess trying to be a guy? Can someone please explain what is wrong with "snow's" face?

https://www.tiktok.com/@lesbiansnowwhite?lang=en

https://www.youtube.com/@lesbiansnowwhite

No. 1802787

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>a 16 year old girl self-mutilated with a razor and almost bled to death
>"king shit"

the responses to this are disturbing.

she had "an insurmountable disgust for the feminine aspects of her body. [she] would like to stop menstruating and above all does not wish to possess breasts" - Hirschfeld, the doctor who eventually gave her the surgery.

No. 1802807

>>1802787
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Mutilating Yourself Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Dress Like Fran Lebowitz Like Nigga Make an Appointment At Brooks Brothers Haha.

No. 1802809

>>1802787
What's German for clocky?

No. 1802811

>>1802787
Poor girl, this is very disturbing.

No. 1802817

>>1802787
something something female cult of self mutilation something suffering competition something something scars as a badge of honor and so on and so forth

No. 1802818

>>1802787
isn't eli a rapist…..

No. 1802823

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No. 1802839

>>1802748
Is this the warhammer guro porn schizo??? Dear lord.

No. 1802847

>>1802698
8. Pornsick beyond repair and can't be aroused by normal sexual things anymore

No. 1802850

>>1802748
>if I look feminine and dress like a hooker, lots of men want to put their penis in me
Wow very gender, much nonconformity kekekek

No. 1802873

>>1802748
Someone needs to explain to her how skeezy old men work. Easy and cheap vagina and anal makes all the pervs come to the yard. None of them think she's a dude.

No. 1802923

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>>1802850
>"if I look feminine"

Because you ARE female, ffs.

Picrel, she admitting she has a fetish for being a "twink" after an assault.

No. 1802937

>>1802818
a rapist who exclusively victimised tifs, iirc!

No. 1802939

>>1802618
You’re bi, actually. Lesbians don’t want to see two man fucking each other in the ass. I’ve tried to read yaoi and it’s incredibly sexual, if it was focused on the romance only then sure, but please stop acting like your bisexual experience is some mystical lesbian one. It isn’t.

No. 1802945

>>1802624
fujo4fujo feels like prison sexuality tbh, most of these girls are really unfortunate looking and want someone to LARP yaoi with and take selfies. I highly doubt there's actual sex involved in those relationships since those people are so obsessed with men but can't get an actual one.

No. 1802946

>>1802923
This is disgustingly sad, it’s putrid but clearly she’s suffering from hyper sexuality and needs some type of therapy to work through her own desires versus the things people have inflicted upon her. Normally I don’t feel sympathetic, but she will only sink further into the swamp of destruction if everything about it is getting her off. She seems very milky but it’s sad, I can’t laugh like I could at Soren.

No. 1802958

>>1801553
this looks like a dumb bitch meme specifically for girls who wore gigantic korn t-shirts to middle school to hide their bodies

No. 1802959

>>1802939
are straight women in fact bisexuals if they watch/read lesbian porn (which is common)? no. a lot of women enjoy romance/erotica that doesn't correspond to their own situation for many different reasons. fujotifs in particular usually hate themselves and think being a man would make everything better so. also there's a lot of mangas where genitals basically look like rays of light and there's also shonen ai which does focus on the romance.

No. 1802974

>>1802923
>teehee I sexualise all my problems cos I'm soooo edgy like that please fuck me please validate me

No. 1802979

>>1802946
I felt sad for her when some "antis" sent her drawings to her job and what not, and while sexual fantasies have the advantage that you have the control on them, the way she talks about being a "twink wanting to be femme-forced" (Vietnam flashback to that infamous tif reddit where they post nsfw photos while expecting being called men) like something "good and totally healthy" is quite worrisome. I know therapy might be expensive and she might quit because "evil therapist didn't use her he/him pronouns", but as long people tell her she's ok with that fantasy, she will totally sink.

No. 1802982

>>1802959
>are straight women in fact bisexuals if they watch/read lesbian porn (which is common)?
Yes

No. 1802983

>>1802959
This. Are gay men actually straight if they fanboy over Ariana Grande or Kpop girls? No. This double standard only ever applies to lesbians and it's so annoying. I think people forget that lesbians still enjoy things that are created by women & for women because newsflash, we still are women despite our dykery, so when something is mostly targeted towards hetero/bi women they get offended if lesbians also wind up enjoying it.

>>1802939
Why is it always bihets who get to dictate what lesbian sexuality is? There's absolutely nothing heterosexual about exclusively dating women as a woman kek, doesn't matter what your hobbies are. You can wax poetic all you want about fictional interests, but in the end, a woman's only bi/straight if she fucks men. Sorry to break it to you, but looking at two drawings getting it on will never change a lesbian's goldstar status. You sound like the crowd who thinks enjoying GTA makes you more likely to actually commit crimes IRL.

No. 1802984

>>1802748
because she’s a young woman. men will fuck a hole in their mattress filled with jello. i guess when this is the only “positive” aspect about your relationships with people, you’ll old man lust like it’s gold. there’s also that statistic about how around 70%~ give or take of online declared trans people don’t actually present as trans in real life at all, it’s strictly an online larp. how much do you want to bet this is the case with her?

No. 1802987

>>1802983
Nta but I think it ultimately comes down to how the individual interacts with the media they consume, some people are a lot more vicarious about it and embody it consciously or otherwise. Some people are actually just really deeply affected by media, and while that isn't the norm it is something to consider.

No. 1802991

>>1802987
Yes, but anon is clearly talking in a general, non-case by case sense. I'm merely stating that if a woman isn't attracted to any men at all, would never touch one or have sex with one, would never date or be intimate with one but she enjoys yaoi couples, it doesn't all of a sudden make her bi. Blogpost, but I used to be TIF4TIF and I almost exclusively read yaoi back then, and realizing that real life men and anime boys aren't the same thing is what made me realize I was actually a lesbian with internalized misogyny. A lot of this discussion reminds me of the common "If you like tomboys, why not just date a guy?" homophobic remark. "If you're okay with reading about two fictional men, you probably think about REAL men, too."

No. 1802992

>>1801892
It legit look like she have a extra chromosome, kinda sad(sage your shit)

No. 1803009

>>1802983
>Are gay men actually straight if they fanboy over Ariana Grande or Kpop girls?
Gay men don't write lesbian fanfiction about their female faves getting fucked like "lesbian fujos" do with their male faves

No. 1803013

>>1802983
>a woman's only bi/straight if she fucks men.
Is every virgin asexual then? Sexuality is based on attraction first and foremost. Anons are saying if you spend all your time watching male bodies depicted in sexual situations and getting aroused by it, you're probably not a lesbian

No. 1803021

Random but the shooter dressed as Juno every Halloween and started transitioning a little after the Elliot Page thing. Wonder if that was the inspiration for moving forward with it

No. 1803029

>>1802991
Once again, if you spend a significant amount of time reading about two men fucking each other up the ass, you’re not a lesbian. Actual lesbians are repulsed by seeing men fuck each other, and no, GNC women aren’t the same as male characters, the manga drawings are still made to look male, to claim that GNC women look like men is misogynistic. You’re not the only ex TIF in this thread, Nona. Some of us are actual lesbians who are repulsed by male’s in any form sexually.

No. 1803032

>>1803013
>Is every virgin asexual then? Sexuality is based on attraction first and foremost
Virgins are attracted to/in love with real people also. It says much more about their sexual orientation than the fictional anime characters they ship on Tumblr.
>if you spend all your time watching male bodies depicted in sexual situations
Except these women are not looking at real burly gay men getting it on. There's a reason it's always yaoi because the characters are very effeminate and written by women. Plus you're forgetting that tifs are mentally unwell and hate being female.

No. 1803038

>>1803032
>Except these women are not looking at real burly gay men getting it on. There's a reason it's always yaoi because the characters are very effeminate and written by women.
Nta but you know 3dpd fujos exist right? There were female Johnlock, Destiel, Stucky, Thorki, Drarry etc. shippers on old tumblr who I remember would identify as lesbian sometimes and I would be so confused. And in modern day there's Steddie and Riddlebat and kpop boyband shippers plus others I probably don't know about. Not to mention the heavy female audience of live action BL so I don't think it has that much to do with 2D vs 3D.

No. 1803043

>>1803032
Effeminate men aren’t the same as GNC women, holy fuck. Just because a man isn’t big or burly doesn’t mean he isn’t a man. Yaoi characters still look male, more male than even TIFs do. You clearly still hate being female if this is the hill you want to die on, anon. Keep your misogyny to yourself.

No. 1803049

>>1803032
nta but what? some fujos will seethe if the male characters are drawn too effeminate because it reminds them of a female body (like analyzing the hips or the waist or whatever the fuck). i dont understand the "men in yaoi are just masculine women" argument because masculine women don't have dicks. and i dont understand the "men in yaoi act and behave more like women than men" argument either because they act neither like real men nor women. they're fictional characters. it feels like people claim male characters are more like "real women" because they're usually better written and have more depth compared to female characters, but that just means they're relatable because of their characterization and story, not because they're catered to women. the most popular gay ships are from series that usually arent written by women and don't even have any actual romantic tension. just look at most shounen series.

No. 1803050

>>1803049
you really don't wanna admit that your reading glorified rule63 fics

No. 1803051

>>1803038
The fact that it exists doesn't prove that no fujo can be lesbian. Acting like all fujos look at real men getting fucked in the ass is disingenuous, even straight fujos are rarely ever into it.

>>1803043
>Effeminate men aren’t the same as GNC women, holy fuck
Nobody said that, stop insisting with the fake outrage. TIFs, straight or gay, hate themselves and the female body which is why they read romance written by women but played out by drawn effeminate men, get over it.

No. 1803055

>>1803051
>TIFs, straight or gay, hate themselves and the female body which is why they read romance written by women but played out by drawn effeminate men
Wouldn't that mean lesbian fujos hate the female body too

No. 1803056

>>1803051
It isn’t fake outrage just because you don’t understand how GNC women aren’t Men Lite, and you did say that “it’s not like they’re watching big burly men get it on”. You told on yourself right there, men are men no matter how they look. If you like seeing men get it on, but you wouldn’t fuck one, you’re still bi because lesbians don’t like seeing men in sexual situations enough to seek out yaoi, unless they truly don’t know where to find lesbian stories, but it’s the internet, are you really that stupid? Once again, your bi experience isn’t a lesbian one because lesbians don’t like men, even if they’re fictional, maybe you should be getting over that, kek.

No. 1803057

>>1803055
Yes, but nona doesn’t realize how many times she keeps putting her own foot in her mouth.

No. 1803058

funniest thing about this current fujo stuff is that when bi women larping as lesbian try to pass off their obvious male attracted behaviour as a lesbian thing, lesbians say “yeah nah we don’t do that” and they’ll still be writing up about how they’re totally lesbian, that every other lesbian simply ~doesn’t get it~, using the same arguments other bi women love to use (such as “its fictional soo it doesnt count!”), it’s like tranny tier levels of delusion & entitlement. all that & for what?? sooner or later your male attraction will bubble up because that’s how your sexuality works then you’ll act sooo surprised as if it hit you like some epiphany despite lesbians telling you straight up what you are, rinse & fucking repeat kek.

No. 1803061

>>1803050
this confused me at first, wdym? that the content produced for gay ships are part of the female gaze because theyre written by women, for women? i never denied that, i was just saying that lots of women end up being into ships from series that were not written for women as the intended demographic, so the male characters don't come off as female-gazey. whatever female shippers do to the characters afterward is their own projection.

i realized i said "men in yaoi" in my earlier post but i was speaking more broadly in terms of gay ships in general. characters from BL genre are written with a female-gaze, i'll give you that, but there's a lot of gay ships that just seem to boom in popularity from shounen series, and it has nothing to do with those characters being written by women, for women. they're just relatable characters that can appeal to anyone regardless of gender, they're not actually "butch women" or whatever people say.

No. 1803066

>>1803061
Yeah, I never understood the "written by women, for women" thing because the majority of casual fujos ship ships from popular male-written media

No. 1803070

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>>1803061
I was referring to how in most yaoifics and dojunshis the designated uke essentially becomes a female version of himself, both in mannerism, how he's treated in story and sometimes in appearance

No. 1803071

>>1803066
The made for women, by women thing in reference to yaoi also assumes all women like men, or desire to see men be sexual by default. The whole conversation erases actual homosexual female experiences, all while claiming to be us.

No. 1803072

>>1803055
It's weird but it happens, there are lesbian TIFs who date other women but at the same mutilate their own bodies (top surgery etc).

>>1803056
>you did say that “it’s not like they’re watching big burly men get it on”.
Because anons' argument was that fujos can't be lesbians since they're attracted to men fucking each other in the ass, as if fujos are seeking out porn for gay men instead of content made by women where characters aren't even masculine looking. You're so upset about the idea that a lesbian could be a fujo, what next, are you going to deny that there are lesbian TIFs? Are you going to say that straight women watching lesbian porn have had a "bisexual experience"? Literally everywhere else on lolcow, the idea that watching gay romance means you're bi would get anyone called a spicy straight but now you're basically agreeing with the idea that women's sexual orientations depend on what they watch simply because it supports your argument that lesbians, even TIFs, would never be into anything else than lesbian romances. Also, you can give your opinion without acting like the representative of all lesbians and The Lesbian Experience™, it's embarrassing.

No. 1803074

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>fujoshis can be lesbians too! Yaoi is butch4butch!
>the yaoi
This has a OVA series too, kek. I guess it was just that popular among bihets.

No. 1803075

>>1803072
You don’t even realize that I am a lesbian detrans woman, cringe. Sorry that you had to find out on an anonmyous image board that lesbians don’t like seeing men fuck each other. Your experience isn’t a lesbian one, it’s a typical bihet one. Get over it.

No. 1803078

>>1803075
What's cringe is thinking that your life story is an argument. No one cares and everyone has their own story and experience, the next time that you don't have anything to reply just don't.

No. 1803079

>>1803078
It’s only relevant because the other anon keeps going on about being an ex tif, and asked me about TIF lesbians as if I wasn’t one. Context clues, develop them sometime?

No. 1803082

>>1803072
>as if fujos are seeking out porn for gay men instead of content made by women where characters aren't even masculine looking.
It's like the other anon's point about GNC women not being at all comparable to feminine men went right over your head. Why do you think "lesbian fujos" liking sexualized depictions of feminine men but not burly men means they're not attracted to men? You realize most straight women prefer feminine men to burly men too? The fact that you subtly keep trying to tie attraction to feminine men to lesbianism is hilarious and reeks of repressed bisexuality

No. 1803085

>>1803072
>Are you going to say that straight women watching lesbian porn have had a "bisexual experience"?
You talk and talk on not realising how you’re exposing your obvious fluid sexuality.. yes those women are bisexual. You clearly do not understand the nature of someone exclusively attracted to one sex that is why you’re asking all these fucking retarded questions & seem genuinely confused on how homosexuality functions.
>Also, you can give your opinion without acting like the representative of all lesbians and The Lesbian Experience™, it's embarrassing.
Multiple lesbians itt disagree with you, do not relate to you & have been explaining why?

No. 1803088

>>1803072
It is porn made for straight women by straight women. It's not ambiguous. You say they're effeminate but most the time their bodies are actually hypermasculine proportionally. Which is no surprise. If you get off to that you are not lesbian.

No. 1803089

>>1803070
ayrt, i agree with you there that often times characters in fics and doujinshis become flat out OOC, and it's why i dislike most fan content. i just chalk it up to people being bad at writing or having warped character interpretations. i still think its disingenuous to say male characters in (non BL) original media appeal to women because they're "actually written more like a woman than a man" when they're just well-written in general.

No. 1803093

>>1803082
The point is that the goal of TIFs is to escape the female body even in fiction, as opposed to seeking out & being attracted to masculinity.

>>1803085
>Multiple lesbians itt disagree with you, do not relate to you & have been explaining why?
And I'm not the only anon that said that lesbians can be into yaoi, I'm also not the anon who made the original post about lesbian fujos (literally talking about her own experience), but I am indeed the only anon that kept replying kek and it's useless. Lesbians on lolcow care so much about their "image" it goes as far as tinfoiling that fujotifs dating each other are in fact straight women who couldn't find a man (?) instead of admitting that some women caught up in the gender woo are lesbians. In fact they're one of the main victims of the gender BS. But let me guess, chopping off your tits and pretending to be a man due to severe internalized homophobia/misogyny is not relatable to you so it's probably just repressed bisexuality.
>seem genuinely confused on how homosexuality functions.
Again, if an anon claimed to be bi because of some shit she watches despite dating only men, she would get mocked, "spicy straight" etc. It's known that a lot of straight women watch lesbian porn or solo women because it's less violent and focus on the woman. We can say that these women are in fact bisexuals if you want, it doesn't change the fact that this is something that anons would usually disagree with because they don't like it when there are too many women claiming to be SSA. Now they're switching it up ("your sexuality is fluid if you read non-straight romance!!") because it supports their argument.

No. 1803099

>>1803088
The seme is but as >>1803089 and >>1803070 pointed out, the uke essentially becomes female in all but name

No. 1803106

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The absolute state of TIFs.

No. 1803120

>>1803106
Peak female socialization is putting yourself down to make ugly scrotes feel better about themselves kek so much for that masculine energy

No. 1803126

The fujo argument is stupid to me. Are you only allowed to consume f/f content if you're a lesbian? Do straight women only have m/f ships? It's possible to enjoy the content for the content because you like the premise or the characters and not get horny at passing sex scenes. We don't fast forward through romantic scenes in shows because our sexuality isn't the one being depicted.

No. 1803127

>>1803085
could you please shut up about "fluid sexuality"? lol no, watching lesbian porn made for moids doesn't make a woman bisexual, stop acting like you're some kind of an expert on human sexuality.
>inb4 you don't realize you're bi
nah I'm bisexual but i'm pretty sure all those women who occasionally admit to watching "lesbian" porn but would never have sex with a woman irl are not.

No. 1803134

>>1803066
There's a difference between ships and actual yaoi. Shipping is just fan culture, yaoi is an actual genre, by definition homoerotic media created by women for women.
Fic writers and fan artists use the term yaoi to describe their fanworks which is somewhat accurate (since they take non-yaoi medias and essentially turn it into yaoi) but that doesn't make the male-written source material yaoi. Thus the yaoi aspect is still created by women.

No. 1803146

>>1803106
>"if you're pretty you're a woman and if you're ugly and gross you're a man"
Sex stereotypes is their bread and butter, they'd die without it

No. 1803153

>>1803126
Thank you, I thought I was going crazy kek. The anons arguing how genres of porn define your sexuality sound like mega-insecure retards. Just pure projection.
>t. a married lesbian

No. 1803154

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>>1802787
She was a patient of Magnus Hirschfeld, a pedophile who frequented child brothels and openly advocated for adult men to be allowed to rape children. she was most likely groomed by that sick pervert.

No. 1803155

>>1803056
I am the nonni who posted >>1802618 and
>unless they truly don’t know where to find lesbian stories
Is my situation, I guess I'm just retarded and don't know where to find the right thing but the only f/f I've seen is either gross hentai for moids or uwu sapphic girls in flower crowns holding hands for spicy straight women.
I guess what is attractive to me in yaoi is the female gaze itself and not the characters, the way women depict sexual situations.

No. 1803156

>>1802923
I started following her for her SFW art but now I'm only sticking to see the train wreck in real time, it's scary how she's getting worse everyday.

No. 1803157

>>1803106
every picture i’ve seen of a troon nine of them shower so no clue what she’s huffing.

No. 1803158

>>1803157
*none. fucks sake

No. 1803178

>>1803106
Funny bc TIFs can pass way better than average TIM.

No. 1803200

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>"If you're attracted to depictions of males you're not a lesbian"
vs
>"Getting aroused to and spending all your time obsessively preoccupied by men in sexual situations with each other doesn't mean I'm attracted to men because uhhh they look like butch women (except they're male)! Or they're fictional men or ""unattainable"" celebritiy men! Or it's written by women for women btw even though most fujo ships are ships from popular male written stories!"

No. 1803207

>>1803200
>btw even though most fujo ships are ships from popular male written stories
What does this even mean? Fujo content of those specific ships (which aren't even that popular) are still made by women for women. The characters may be male written, but the noncanonical better interpretation of them as a ship is written by women, and fujos end up consuming things made by women for women.

No. 1803213

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>>1803200
Okay retard, you can quit posting about this and post some real milk instead. Could you speds please find somewhere else to infight and stop shitting up this thread? Picrel is milktax, i.e. fakebois projecting upon another tumblr sexyman.

No. 1803220

>>1803200
literally kek. awful lot of lesbians these days are just kinsey 5 bis. wonder if this is how it’ll always be, i hope not.

No. 1803225

>>1803200
you really gonna argue this isn't hetorsexuality >>1803074 with extra steps

No. 1803230

>>1803213
Really thought this was a wikihow at first.

No. 1803232

>>1803213
Kek this looks like Wikihow illustration

No. 1803249

>>1803225
By your logic, women into butches are actually heteros, because butches are masculine and they're basically men, right?

No. 1803258

>>1803249
That's actually "lesbian fujo" logic when they try to say the males in their art and fanfics are butch women

No. 1803260

>>1803200
I guess spicy straight woman that read yuri or watch lesbian porn are actual bisexuals then?

No. 1803261

>>1803127
AYRT Those women are bisexual. I’m bisexual myself and I’m sick of retarded bisexuals like you & the fact that your ignorance is so popular. Lesbians aka female homosexuals don’t get off to seeing men fuck. Gay men don’t get off to seeing two women fuck. Straight women don’t get off to seeing two women fuck. If you cant relate it is because you’re bisexual. It is simple. The arguments these women have been making has been consistent & simple because homosexuality is consistent & simple. If you don’t understand that you’re no different to the rapey trannies you guys claim to hate. This belief that someone isn’t a sexuality because they haven’t fucked say, a woman is retarded. Sexuality is sexual and romantic attraction which manifests itself in different forms and it doesn’t require you fucking someone to be real. These discussions are important because it is important to discern the differences between homosexuality & bisexuality which are pretty simple if you guys shut the fuck up & listened to lesbians for once instead of fighting so hard to prove your bi behaviour that no lesbian can relate to is still somehow bi behaviour. Knowing the difference & speaking about the difference is so we can avoid it backfiring onto lesbians, which it always does. This is why trannies are so confident, moids are so confident, why that Lisa Diamond(?) study even exists & is still used to justify the corrective rape of lesbian women.

No. 1803267

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>>1803260
nta yes.
anyways, just because it isn’t happening to you troon doesn’t mean it isn’t happening at all. also I always found it so disturbing how eager they all are to destroy their bodies, it is one massive death cult.

No. 1803279

>>1803260
They're certainly more bisexual than women who exclusively watch or read gay porn lol

No. 1803289

>>1803261
(is that blogpost?)If I am a giga autist and have no interest in real women but like fictional women, does it make me lesbian or asexual? I will never date anybody so by the logic of nonnie№1 I am asexual as it doesn't matter what content I consume but by the logic of nonnie№2 (you) fictional affection is just as important as real one.

No. 1803298

>>1803289
Nta but if you're exclusively attracted to women and the female body, yes you are a lesbian, even if you have never had sex or never intend to have sex. The whole "your sexuality is just who you have sex with irl" logic also means virgins can only be asexual, which is stupid because virgins can still experience sexual attraction. Plus there are people in the closet who have never had sex with the same sex but know they're gay or lesbian because they're only attracted to the same sex. Sexuality is based on who you're sexually attracted to.

No. 1803303

>>1803260
NTA, but if you're same sex attracted, you are not straight. It's really not deeper than that. I don't understand why some people struggle to understand it.

No. 1803336

>>1803289
ayrt what >>1803298 said is right. you dont need to have sex with someone to understand who you are.. there are other ways our sexuality is expressed that doesn’t require sex & dating.

No. 1803361

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>>1802923
This bitch is manic. i cant decide if i’m disgusted or concerned

No. 1803370

>>1803361
>>1802923
This is beyond horrifying. This girl needs serious help and she’s just being taken advantage of by kinksters and the gender cult. They love the idea that a broken person like this is getting further damaged by fetishism and transgenderism

No. 1804103

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I have been dealing with health issues and doctors do not take me seriously. Is it because I'm a woman? No, is the doctors that are racists.

No. 1804104

>>1803154
eww I didn't know about Hirschfeld's history (but should have known by his title 'sexologist'…) makes this even more tragic.

No. 1804105

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>>1803361
>>1803370

She's getting funny, but not "ha ha" funny.

No. 1804114

>>1803207
nta, but what i assume that anon means is that shippers fall in love with male-written characters and become obsessed about them, but lesbian fujos will try to justify their attraction by saying the characters are drawn and written as butch women and that's why they can ignore the male aspect. nobody is denying that women consume fics and art by other women, but the biggest fujo ships originate from non BL media. fan content of gay ships have a female gaze the same way hetero stuff written by women have a female gaze, but nobody will say the man in a het ship is actually a butch woman just because the story was written by a woman.

what people mean to say is that the romance (in BL and het) is written with a female gaze and that's why they enjoy it, because men are fucking awful at writing romance, but you cannot conflate that with gay male characters actually being characterized as lesbian women just because they're "more emotional". lesbian fujos can enjoy BL because the romance is written with a female-gaze, but other anons are talking about how certain lesbians will make their entire fandom experience about sexualizing men's bodies, talking about their dicks, and producing porn of them. straight women can enjoy lesbian romance that is written by women, but you will not see straight women making oversexualized porn of them on the same level.

i have a bi friend who calls herself a lesbian just because she never wants to date a man again, and all the content she produces is BL or her self-insert getting fucked by a man, but it's okay she's a lesbian because she's e-dating a woman. these are the "lesbian fujos" that anons are calling out.

No. 1804130

>>1803361
>ana to FtM pipeline
Uhhh it's kind of scary how common this is. She still has an ED but now it's based because she's trannie gender and she SHOULD lose unhealthy amounts of weight because it "makes" her a real boy (not man obviously), I guess.

No. 1804144

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>>1804105
Man this woman is so laughable. I'd feel bad for her if the mental illness shit didn't also feel like a LARP.

No. 1804156

>>1804114
Ah I see nona, thank you for explaining. Ngl sometimes it's hard to follow all this sexuality talk, you explained it well.

No. 1804167

>>1804144
Exhibit #484748384 of tifs dressing like tacky oversexed ethots but somehow not getting dysphoria from this. Hmmm wow it's almost like their appearance isn't a source of distress to them and it's only the words "women" and "girl" that are dripping with degradation, shame, and cringyness for them. They don't even want to look masc. They just want to get the hell away from us as a concept. How are the tif apologists in this thread not convinced that tifness is entirely based on misogyny and a burning hatred for the concept of women?

No. 1804176

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here is the inventory police seized from Audrey's room. they also found a man's driver's license… wonder who that belonged to.
soooo many electronics. i guess she just hoarded every electronic she ever owned?

No. 1804179

>>1803032
>because the characters are very effeminate
Can people stop saying shit like this all the time? The only famous case where it's that blatant is Gravitation on top of my head. It's less and less the case nowadays.

No. 1804190

>>1803370
it's not that special. the gender cult and kinkster stuff isn't even real, she's just a run of the mill pickme anachan trying to differentiate herself by being nlog. the only differences between her and all of her competition are that she's doing a silly pronoun thing (and her face is kind of lumpy but not even a dealbreaker for the kind of guys she likes who will jerk off to any girl in cosplay). she'll lock down the ugliest programmer you've ever seen and start an extremely conventional family and be totally fine.

No. 1804219

>>1804176
holy shit she had so many laptops wtf

No. 1804233

>>1804144
>"men who fuck me are totes gay"

No. 1804237

>>1804176
what I find even more interesting is the fact there was 1 suicide note and 2 memoirs. if we aren’t getting a manifesto I at least wanna read those

No. 1804238

>>1804144
>femboy
>tomboy

Pick one, just one.

No. 1804250

>>1804176
Woah, Wonder what the redacted item was. I added up like 20 journals in total. (wasn't sure if #11 said 4 or 9 though.)
I bet 30$ the cops find some really fucked up transcel alt accounts when they unlock her tech. It's like the whole "Harmless Autistic Disney adult" thing was a mask for when she was around people.

No. 1804260

>>1802028
One of my closest friend took a dive after she got into tiktok. she went from being a traumatized straight girl, to a futch lesbian to basically a bi whatever this girl is. its so sad since she wants to start HRT now and get top surgery (she is flat chested already) that shes "embraced her femininity as a male" so now she has short hair long nails?? i hate this shit, its a plague on all the LGB women ive known the last 10 years.

No. 1804261

>>1804176
New song? Wtf? Did she write a single for this crime? Kek

No. 1804266

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>>1804260
>Wants to get top surgery
>she's flat chested

They have these "trans man scars" too glamorized at this rate. Is like not gender dysphoria for having breast in first place, is like breast in general is horrible to have and you're not a real "man" without these scars.

No. 1804277

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sage for an absolutely retarded post but the profile of this girl made me kek

No. 1804284

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>>1799273
macbook is expensive as shit and brand new with a full warranty.

No. 1804289

>>1803126
I dont understand the obsession. Nobody goes in circles around men who are obsessed with lesbian characters and anything yuri adjacent. Everyone is so obsessed and offended by what women consume lol like okay

No. 1804296

>>1804277
"I'm a parent" All these freaks keep having kids and becoming bffs with them…I'm scared we're gonna start to see some really fucked up beyond help children because their entire life has been a stream of this content. Like how kids who grew up during the original Elsagate now speak about how it harmed their development.

No. 1804300

>>1804296
they're going to die in the coming water wars anyway, they'll be perfect cannon-fodder

No. 1804302

>>1802637
At least in my experience, it’s usually an excuse for being horny all the time
Sage for blogpost I have a pseudo handmaiden friend like this who is constantly thirsts over random male e-thots and talks about wanting to get slammed into the wall and fucked but she claims to be asexual at the same time.
I really don’t think anyone believes her with that being said though.

No. 1804307

>>1804296
Those kids are going to go 2 ways: lifelong druggy depressed fuck ups or extremely conservative who got their shit together.

No. 1804318

>>1804144
Thought I was on the pro-ana thread for a second

No. 1804324

I feel like there's a soft butch style to "FTM femininity" posts and I wish someone would tell these women it's normal to not either look like a porn star, bull dyke or tradwife as a woman. Enjoying wearing more masculine clothes while also enjoying things like wearing makeup and having long hair is common. It's like they think wanting to be soft butch = wanting to be an "androgynous femboy".

No. 1804327

>>1804277
>norwegian/cuban
i’m not saying it’s impossible to be that mix but it’s certainly rare. besides tifs love racefaking so there’s that.
i do hope the parent part is fake.

No. 1804338

>>1804277
Oh nonnie the game this is on, everskies, is a goldmine for this stuff. I got into it because of the nostalgia of pixel avatars and found out very quickly that it's full of xenogender neopronoun and nonhuman bs. A lot of people have emoji pronouns and it/xe/they shit. Most of the "males" are tifs and gaydens. Tiktok rhetoric about gender and race are popular, and so is tiktok level reading comprehension, toxicity and virtue signalling. Some of the outfits are nice, though.

No. 1804341

>>1804327
i think by norwegian they mean one of their parents is white and has vaguely scandinavian ancestry

No. 1804342

>>1804341
>they
Pls

No. 1804343

>>1804342
kek are you the same anon from the previous thread that doesn't understand the singular they?

No. 1804344

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>>1804324
I think I mentioned many women that were famous for their masculine attires and androgynous looks but they're still women. Grace Jones, Annie Lennox and Shirley Manson are the ones I can think of (oldfag). Is sad that women think to look androgynist you must have a male body too.

No. 1804345

>>1804343
Ayrt I'm not, and duh I understand it but the person in the picture says she's a tif so why is the they necessary. Maybe I spend too much time in these threads who knows kek

No. 1804347

>>1804345
I'm the person who used they and i'm the furthest you can be from being a pronounfag, people have always used "they" in contexts where they're not acquainted with a person, it really has nothing to do with gender. and i don't mean that in a "i use they on everyone just to be safe" sense, it's a different use case entirely. i'm nearing my 30s and you're making me wonder if zoomers have stopped using they in this way since it's become such a politically loaded word

No. 1804352

>>1804345
sorry anon. there was someone in the previous thread that was getting really angry about the use of "they" and I thought they were getting riled up again kek
>>1804347
i'm also 30 and agree it's very normal for people I know to use "they" in that way, even when they know the sex of the person. eg "what are they doing?" when you are confused by a person's behaviour. you see what sex they are but you can still use 'they' to refer to them.
the genderqueer stuff didn't start coming in til mid 2010s so maybe the understanding of the 'singular they' has been overshadowed by that now.

No. 1804393

>>1804344
>>1804344
Patti Smith is another amazing androgynous female artist

No. 1804459

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From the mtf thread.

No. 1804507

>>1804144
>“Because fuck it if we don’t want to be your uwu submissive Asian loli waifu right?”
>calls herself a femboy
>has a thing for cyborg femboys getting bred
lmao

No. 1804510

>>1801812
Pretty sure when you go into survival mode, your gender presentation is the last thing you think of. You'd probably be too busy you know, not fucking dying from starvation, dehydration or the elements.

No. 1804526

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>>1804507
>Being called a submissive Asian kawaii waifu to breed kids.
>Being called a submissive Asian kawaii femboy to breed her fetish.

No. 1804527

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>>1804277
>>1804327
I went on the blog, she talks like the parent part isn't fake…

No. 1804539

>>1804527
Christ some save that kid from his retard parents.

No. 1804602

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No. 1804604

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No. 1804608

>>1804338
I honestly don’t think there’s more than a handful of males in that site. All the males i’ve came across in my time there were aidens. Truly delusional and unhinged site, I couldn’t bare to witness the posts so i just stopped playing all together kek

No. 1804609

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Faghag fujo TIFs are the imo the worst subset of fujotroons.

No. 1804611

sorry to continue the fujo circlejerk but tbh i just don't think lesbians IRL care about whether you write steve/bucky fanfiction. this feels like a chronically online argument, who actually cares about this stuff?

No. 1804612

>>1804609
>All my friends are bougie straight people

No. 1804634

>>1804608
The only actual moids I've come across were fags who were flirting with becoming mtf

No. 1804641

>>1804604
And I thought I was insane. Jesus that is cringe. What a waste.

No. 1804646

>>1804338
Oh I know. But I love the dressing up so I just try to avoid completely the users. But sometimes curiosity gets the best of me kek

No. 1804654

>>1804611
Being a fujo is the most chronically online thing you can do

No. 1804657

>>1804609
yassified Sideshow Bob looking ass

No. 1804677

>>1804609
These kinds of fujotroons make me so sad, it's like watching an ouroboros made of madness.
They act like faggots, who are already anoying because they larp as females to get moid attention while being a …woman who doesn't need this kind of shit. They're mimicking their haters to get a crumble of validation from men that don't even want to fuck them, tragic.

No. 1804679

>>1804602
even that ezra bitch did this
"Ooww I hate that I was a normal girl who didn't have to inject synthetic hormones that will make me bald, didn't have to compress her chest and didn't rely on online attention :( Boohoo!!"

No. 1804689

>>1804679
Transitioned from bad eyebrows, to worse eyebrows. Inspirational

No. 1804692

>>1804604
I hate these memes, this was a result of tranny grooming and her being uncomfortable with herself. Not the result of allowing her to be independent. Cmon

No. 1804695

>>1804692
Yeah I hate them too, they are made by conservatards who are angry these women are not fuckable to them anymore, not that they fell into the trans trap, note how there are only TIFs and no TIMs.

No. 1804712

>>1804527
>I didn't answer him cuz I have him blocked
Wouldn't that prevent him from messaging her?

No. 1804770

>>1804604
>>1804692
Yeah I don’t like these memes either. There’s nothing wrong with becoming gnc, but in this case it’s girls mutilating themselves and dressing like clowns.

No. 1804787

>>1801553
I instantly thought this was ironic and making fun of how piercings in Claire's get infected, then top surgeries getting botched.

No. 1804800

>>1804654
You can be Fujo without ever going on the internet dummy. Fujos existed before the internet.

No. 1804805

>>1804800
Cope, normal people who don't go onlone don't have weird interests like that.

No. 1804813

reading some of the stuff anons write makes it understandable why some girls would want to transition and I can't really blame them.

No. 1804820

>>1804654
>>1804805
let women enjoy things?

No. 1804822

>>1804602
I’d argue this is a major glow up if she dropped the gender ideology bullshit. She could be a cute GNC woman, if she wasn’t deluded.

No. 1804826

>>1804654
Knowing what fujos are is also a chronically online thing to know. Most normies don't know what a fujo is and lets hope that stays that way.

No. 1804839

>>1804609
Ice Spice's cousin cold herb

No. 1804843

>>1804695
They also only dislike top surgery because the breasts are being "wasted" instead of there for them to ogle

No. 1804963


No. 1804995

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the state of this tif kek

No. 1805038

>>1804393
She sucks ass fym

No. 1805040

>>1805038
ntayrt, i have to agree with you on her music but her image was really cool and i appreciate that she doesn't wear makeup and flaunts her androgyny

No. 1805042

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ok fess up which one of you posted the bottom one to cause dysphoria lmao

No. 1805075

>>1805042
The top one looks like she still has breasts but in 2D

No. 1805078

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Spoiler because of fucked up imagery.

Saw this girl on Instagram who is of course a ftm and one of the pictures on her profile was this shit. I saw it so you have to see it too. I hope it's fake blood.

In other post she mentions something about not being a girl and eating poop and the video attached she's eating something that I hope for everything that's holy it's chocolate pudding or something similar.
Wtf is up with todays youth

No. 1805086

>>1805078
hyperindividualism-induced psychosis
you have to viciously and often times derangedly carve out your very specific niche to generate enough memetic energy to sustain your brand. these kids are ferocious marketers of their own identities to a quite literally insane degree

No. 1805090

>>1805078
it looks a bit too bright to be period blood

No. 1805095

Its not blood, blood would clot

No. 1805098

>>1805095
you mean coagulate

No. 1805127

>>1804604
>tttt filename

No. 1805129

>>1805078
>asi es la vida triste jodida y divertida

I dislike to be a nutzi grammar but yuck. Besides that fake blood in the nose makes her looks like a clown.

No. 1805194

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Show me these hyper masculine, 6 pack having trans men. I’ve yet to meet a tif who isn’t painfully skinny or a doughy mess. They all hate themselves too much to go to the gym.

No. 1805197

>>1805194
I would happily welcome the most stone butch women of all time in my toilet because they still have the less predatory/fetishizing behaviour of a woman, or even in the 1 in 1 million chance they have a scrote-like predatory personality, still have the risk-aversion and physical body of a woman. Do tifs think butch women who identify as women don't belong in womens toilets and that it's all about presentation?

No. 1805202

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>>1805194
I think every should see this pic of Buck Angel(the most masculine TIF for some people) standing next to 2 average bodied men

No. 1805213

>>1805194
but if a male person who looks exactly like that description says he's a female he should be in women's toilets and changing rooms according to them.

No. 1805224

>>1805194
Oh you mean the trans "men" with face pubes, fake non-functioning flaccid ""dicks"" and the strenght, muscle, height and bone structure that any woman can have, because they're women too? The same "men" that have a frog voice and lose 1-7 in a soccer match against men becuase they're women a the end of the day? The ones who don't make up 97% of rape and violence cases against women?

No. 1805229

>>1805202
I mean if OP specifically means TIFs that look like Buck Angel, I probably wouldn't want to see those in my restrooms either(gag). Luckily they are rare.

No. 1805238

>>1805229
This is such a non issue because not a single tif nowadays even goes as far as getting the flesh tube installed. And even then they barely look masculine. buck angel is an extreme outlier and very much old school troon where you were expected to actually dedicate your entire life to passing. It's laughable to say "oh so u want bepenised big burly hairy tifs in your bathroom???" because the average naturally existing woman is probably more hairy and naturally "masculine" than the modern neurotic tenderqueer anachan tif who's still addicted to conforming to female gender expectations

No. 1805239

>>1805194
That argument is so demented.
>you don't want men in the women's changing room? well we surgically and chemically mutated women into horrors beyond human comprehension, where do they go to take a piss?

The obvious answer is to not create these creatures in the first place because there is little in the world that is more evil than this process, but in the end a mutated, mutilated woman is still a woman and not a man and this has entire question is a red herring that doesn't support at all their desire that men should be able to hang out in women's toilets and changing rooms, unconditionally, so log as they say they want to.

But the reality is that the police is called to arrest women who speak out about those men and the media portrays them as bigoted monsters, while the sex perverts are free to live out the fetish in peace.

No. 1805240

>>1805197
>>1805224
This. Even if we're talking about TiFs who "pass" fairly well in pictures online and whatnot, when you see them irl and next to other people, usually something gives them away. And most TiFs are very easy to clock as female anyway, so. Also fucking kek at that troon's point about actual men "with dicks". Most TiFs don't even opt for the arm sausage surgery (which is… good for them), and the minority that do aren't exactly threatening for their flaccid skin tube "dicks".

No. 1805257

>>1805229
Kek "passing" trannies are less than 1% of troon population. This is literally the reason why that one picture of a "passing" tif in women's bathroom went viral and also the reason why it's always buck angel (and maybe a couple of other tifs) who is brought up in those conversations. There are like 5 "passing" troons in the world female and male combined, I mean trannies who actually succeeded at tricking people in real life. Most of the "passoids" only look fine on photoshopped photos.

No. 1805276

>>1805240
>the minority that do aren't exactly threatening for their flaccid skin tube "dicks"
Imagine a tif even attempting to assault someone, she'd have to pause to inflate the tube first if it can even inflate at all without falling off

No. 1805281

>>1805276
Plus rape would require some force. If a tif tried to force herself on another woman the flesh tube would fucking tear apart. And again, tifs are average women, they can be overpowered by other women just fine, also considering that a lot of them at either anachans or overweight potatoes with "disabilities".

No. 1805283

>>1799249
Not an award, but the best girl on my hs XC team was a mid functioning autistic savant. She was in a mix of AP and SPED/life skills classes and always qualified for regionals.

No. 1805285

>>1805281
Not to mention most of them are self proclaimed uwu gay subby bottom femme boys or whatever the fuck. I have never even heard of any case where a woman's rapist was a tif in my entire life

No. 1805287

>>1805285
I was sexually assault by someone who was my "friend" that was tif if that helps
There was def no actual overpowering it mostly happened because it my complete shock that someone I trusted was touching me like that

No. 1805322

>>1805285
Rape doesn't have to involve having a penis. These tif can easily use a dildo or anything phallus shaped on her victims. Rape is about power and make your victim feel worthless and it was her fault or reserved it.

No. 1805326

>>1805202
I hate to break it to Americanons but height as a determining factor in masculinity is largely a western judgement. go to Mexico or anywhere south of the border or in South America and the default for men is to be short and stocky like TIFs. even their MMA and UFC fighters from South America are mostly short guys. hell even in Asia the same thing can be said. and given that statistically men have gotten shorter over the decades compared to how tall they used to be in comparison to women, height as a determining factor for telling if someone is a TIF or not is unreliable

No. 1805330

>>1805326
South American nonnie, can confirm. Sometimes I feel smaller than my (USAian?) friends and then I remember that I'm way taller than other women in my country. A south American TIF might be taller than other women here, but in USA or even Nordic countries, she can pass like a dwarf.

No. 1805332

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>>1805326
>>1805330
Yeah like native andean men are short, hairless, can't grow beards and sometimes they let their hair grow to a length superior to the average of latinas, but not even a tourist seeing them for first time can confuse one as a woman, because they have the rectangular anatomy and features that all males have

No. 1805344

>>1804604
I've seen these pics for years, anyone know what happens to this girl?

No. 1805355

>>1805194
>actual men
Those are women who messed around with their hormones and may/may not have had some cosmetic surgery, not men. Huge difference. The outside doesn't matter because they actually belong. They always have, and always will.
Do these people think women with PCOS don't belong in women's bathrooms, too?

No. 1805357

>>1805326
Nta but the troon fad itself is largely a Western thing, and context matters. A white American TiF that's 5'3" is going to stick out like a sore thumb because actual men in that demographic are around 5'9" on average.

No. 1805370

>>1805194
A woman with a lot of body hair is still a woman. An extremely muscular woman is still a woman. A woman who cut off a chunk of her arm and sewed it to her groin is still a woman (though these surgeries are so rare it isn't even worth taking into consideration.) I'd rather share a locker room with Buck Angel than with Dylan Mulvaney literally any day.

Irony of ironies, many TiFs continue to use the women's room anyway out of– you guessed it– fear of males. Men and women have to have separate spaces because one is constantly victimizing the other.

No. 1805374

>>1805194
Why is always the "terf in bathrooms are always checking on the genitals on people when they just want to pee" when a normal person can distinguish the diferencie between a woman and… whatever a tif or a tim looks like?

No. 1805387

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>>1805374
You made me think of this awful comic

No. 1805389

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>>1805387
i know they aren't to be posted anymore but the way the artist of this depicts herself bears a hilarious resemblance to the pooner memes lol

No. 1805397

>>1805387
I will never understand this logic/fetish that trannies have.

No. 1805402

>>1805387
>Now showing what happens when that patrol do find a tim taking photos with his genitals off in a mirror in a woman's bathroom.

>>1805397
Exhibitionism/persecution idea is a hell of a drug to them.

No. 1805421

>>1805042
Holy shit, look at that abdominal, android, panniculus, potbelly paunch she’s developing.
Troonerism os truly a mental and physical disease that destroys female bodies.(learn to sage)

No. 1805426

>>1805389
wait is Kendra trans now? Haven’t thought about her in years

No. 1805430

>>1805194
As a person with eyes on this thread, I know any trans man with one of their "penises" isn't capable of surprise raping me. Like what is she going to do? Rapid pump the "dick" before jumping me and hope the acidity of my vagina doesn't cause her more pain than me? It's not like it would cause them any pleasure to begin with

No. 1805432

>>1805042
>those comments
How can they not tell

No. 1805468

>>1805374
They are just retards who like to keep strawmanning about "TERFs inspecting people's genitals", implying that you can't tell a person's sex from anything else. In reality everyone with half a brain knows you can tell one's sex from their secondary sex characteristics as well. Ugly, hulking AGP hons can be clocked as men a mile away without ever having to see their nasty dicks but TRAs love to pretend otherwise

No. 1805516

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Looks like Audrey was possibly an edgy Columbiner like Lindsay Souvannarath.

>Authorities have yet to release what was written publicly. But TBI director David Rausch did talk candidly about the contents of the manifesto at a Tennessee Sheriffs' Association meeting. Rausch said what police found isn't so much a manifesto spelling out a target but a series of rambling writings indicating no clear motive.


>Investigators searched the Nashville home of the Covenant School shooter leaving with among other things — a number or handwritten journals, some videos and computer hard drives. Rausch told sheriffs that the review so far of the material finds that the killer did not write about specific political, religious or social issues. In fact, a primary focus in the journals is on idolizing those who committed prior school shootings.


>She appears to have followed their lead planning for months and acted alone.


https://www.newschannel5.com/news/tbi-director-shares-new-details-on-the-covenant-school-shooters-manifesto

No. 1805605

>>1805516
OT but
>Lindsay Souvannarath
is a name I haven’t heard in ages. Didn’t she have a thread here?

No. 1805627

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>>1805516
they're bullshitting us hard. No one randomly warms up to commit an act in which the main focus is to humiliate and attack an institution, a group, or a society. terrorist acts are not committed on pure desire to harm. otherwise, you could just kill individual people like a serial killer. I don't buy it for a fucking second

No. 1805640

>>1805605
Yeah a really old one >>>/pt/128373

No. 1805651

>>1805627
Biggest massacre in US was the Las Vegas shooting in 2017 and no motive was ever established, so don’t hold your breath that anything concrete will be revealed, if there is more to it

No. 1805661

>>1805627
there’s a reason mass shootings are much more common than serial killers nowadays. it’s far easier to just buy a gun and pick out a location than it is to plan individual murders. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, Parkland. all of those men just wanted to inflict as much harm as they could, with no terrorist intent.

No. 1805698

>>1805661
And most of the times is either due bullying (Columbine and Virginia Tech) or his mental health got worse and decided to kill people with the guns he owned (Sandy Hook). I wouldn't be surprised if in this case is the second option.

No. 1805709

>>1805516
This is actually pretty interesting because her public persona was so juvenile, childlike and uwu. I mean it's definitely not uncommon for people to have a much darker private side but she had a pretty extreme contrast if it's true that she idolized other shooters

No. 1805716

>>1805344
I know all that happened sometime in 2020. She called herself "fred". Googling her tiktok handle just brings up that video. I'm guessing she quit the internet

No. 1805725

>>1805387
kek it's always a tif who will make efforts to protect and defend tims, but never the other way around

No. 1805727

>>1804800
I find the problem now is that if you’re a fujo you just can’t escape this bs and depending on how easily pressured you are well you’ll end up being one of them

No. 1805777

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So she just wanted to be thing basically since she’s a they/them and dresses very fem which makes her feel good about herself.
One of the comments said her surgeon was so good the other comments were saying how they can’t wait to get rid of their breasts to look flat on dresses.
This is just depressing but Euphoria!

No. 1805834

>>1805322
We know that rape doesn't always involve a penis, but again tifs are women and women aren't dangerous to other women like a man would be. We know that there are some cases of woman on woman violence, but 90% of rapes are committed by men. And again, most tifs aren't physically strong enough to cause serious problems to random women in female bathrooms.

>>1805326
>height as a determining factor in masculinity is largely a western judgement
I'm not american, but I'm pretty sure that even if men are shorter in some areas, they're still taller than the average woman in that same area. Still, men and tifs are anatomically very different even if they have the same height.

No. 1805869

>>1805777
The euphoria she feels when she thinks she is perceived as a human because the slutty whorebags (breasts) are gone

No. 1805881

>>1805869
That and/or the anachan euphoria of being down several sizes after shedding an unnatural amount of body mass

No. 1805887

>>1805777

sometimes i wonder if this will end up shifting because now you have a new subset of creeps who are specifically into this look. there were already a bunch of post on the detrans reddit about people posing as documentarians to try and get photos of the women there.

No. 1805892

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>>1805887
>there were already a bunch of post on the detrans reddit about people posing as documentarians to try and get photos of the women there.
i wan to a-log

No. 1805895

>>1805887
yep, doll anatomy/missing genitals comes up in weird fetish communities

No. 1805936

>>1805627
Yup. They don't want people to know they're watching whatever online group she was a part of.

No. 1806032

>>1805322
Rape isn't always or even mostly about power, that's a scrote-pushed idea. Rape usually is a person feeling entitled to another person's body or about explicit hatred against the victim's demographic/personhood using it as a hate crime with the added sexual drive (if it was just power and they got no sexual gratification they'd beat the woman not necessarily rape her, that's why for example scrotes mostly rape in alignment with their sexuality and beat not rape men they hate usually). While obviously a woman can feel this way they overall don't which is why rapists are like 98% male.
And even ignoring the male v female stats, the likelihood of a transmed tif, especially post phallo (like the tweet indicates) raping someone would be low on its own just on a practicality perspective which is why it's funny the troon is acting like a tif being forced to stay in a female washroom means women are in more danger than around normal women, I'd honestly expect more rapes out of females who haven't mangled their bodies to remove proper sexual function. Tifs would need a tool and they couldn't physically enjoy the experience to the point of hurting themselves as much as the victim if they tried. On the various parameters set to create a rape in the first place you'd need a serious woman hating serial rapist who gets off purely on the sexual humiliation and sadism, I could see a tif raping out of brain rot from sexual frustration after their clit gets covered in the fake penis skin and unusable and also hating other woman as a projection of themselves. But I think there would have been a case of that by now if that was in any way a likely event. Especially since in reality fakebois and transmeds don't have the same restrictions the tweet claimed with them being "basically men who can rape with a penis too"

No. 1806105

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>facial masculinization surgery
>twink pipeline

And they say denial is not just a river in Egypt.

No. 1806139

>>1806105
anachan tifs are the worst.

No. 1806142

>>1805698
The Columbine shooters being bullied is a meme, THEY were the bullies. Don't fall for that poor abused males just snap! bullshit

No. 1806149

>>1806142
yep. one of the dudes was one of the most popular guys in the school ans was even really popular with girls, and both dudes were well liked in the school, no record of them being bullied

No. 1806168

>>1806105
as someone struggling to recover from severe an this makes me so angry. if this sort of shit was posted by a regular old woman people would recognize it as the pro-ed larpy bullshit it is but because it's a tif she gets validation from the cult. god give me the strength not to a-log

No. 1806199

>>1806149
>>1806142
nta they were picked on by the Jocks, but they went out of way their antagonize the jocks as well. It was the perhaps the only case of deserved bullying in the world.

No. 1806234

>>1806149
That is literally not true at all and a very common misconception that has been proven wrong again and again. They were assholes to others and had a decently sized circle of friends but they were definitely not popular in the absolute least

No. 1806239

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lmao

No. 1806247

>>1805777
It's dystopian to look at. It doesn't even look more neutral or male, it looks prepubesent and anorexic. You just know in the future her mind will have switched and her chest will give her real "wrong body" dysphoria only this time she can't fix it and have her breasts back. If she has a child she can't ever breastfeed it, because as a young woman she hated women and female bodies too much to think breasts are even worth having. If that child is a daughter, how will she explain when she's older why her mommy doesn't have breasts? Will she encourage her to amputate hers too? Do these girls realize that’s what they're doing to young teen girls on tiktok? Spreading hatred of the female body and promoting harming it permanently, just to look less female.

Even though some women are happy never having any, statistically she and all of these girls will grow out of this phase, and they'll end up wanting kids. That's just reality.

No. 1806262

>>1803074
Fujoshi is just a term meaning someone who enjoys or is a fan of BL. I'm a straight cis woman who enjoys yuri (as well as BL) (also straight romance even if I don't generally seek it out) so I don't see why the same can't apply for yaoi. You don't have to be able to jerk off to enjoy a piece of romantic or even porny media lol(sage your autism)

No. 1806263

>>1806247
She could wear pads/get implants and use formula like many women do after cancer. My friends mum had a full mastectomy for aggressive BC at 26 before she had kids. Idk it’s kind of weird and trad-y to make this all about some hypothetical children that don’t even exist.

No. 1806268

>>1806263
Yeah that post gave me a bad vibe.

No. 1806279

>>1806263
> Idk it’s kind of weird and trad-y to make this all about some hypothetical children that don’t even exist.
Yeah. If any girl is on the fence of transitioning being told something like this will surely have the opposite intended effect. "Think about the future babies you're going to birth" and another common one "what will your future husband think about this" is so fucking yuck.

No. 1806311

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>the braver footsteps are walked with high heels
interesting

No. 1806314

>>1806239
This is honestly just as pathetic as men trooning over their trap hentai addiction.

No. 1806318

>>1806263
nta but imo you cannot compare surgery for literal cancer to a completely elective surgery many fakebois decide to get literally on a whim. A couple of personal cows have gone from she/her handmaidens to full threatening to 41% over not getting a mastectomy within a couple of months.

No. 1806321

>>1806311
Poor Noelle. She’s obviously just a self-hating lesbian with internalized homophobia from growing up in a religious family, who trooned out to please her BPD bisexual polyamorous wife, and probably because she was brainwashed with troon propaganda from spending too much time on Tumblr. Is this comic about how hard it is to be twanz in the age of tranny genocide? Or is this comic hinting at her transition regret and desire to detransition?

No. 1806322

>>1806318
My point was more that you can still have children after. The outcome is the same whether it’s on a whim or a life saving (not avoiding 41% type) surgery. I’m sure it’s preferable to regret a tattoo or a piercing obviously, but it’s also not as damaging as bottom surgery or munchie amputations.

No. 1806324

>>1806321
it was just posted under the title "braver" with no more context given.

No. 1806325

>>1806322
Wasn't there a story about a tif who had a baby and the milk grew in her nippleless boobs and got infected? Sounds pretty terrifying to me. Plus tifs still want children despite being True and Honest males.

No. 1806329

>>1806325
That's because tifs are only disgusted with a association to women and not with being female. It's misogyny and nlogism on steroids. Often it's the word women or girl that sets them spiraling because they hate us

No. 1806333

>>1806105
This is basically just proana tier posting right? Like I've never been part of those communities but is this not basically the text version of bodychecking?

No. 1806338

>>1805777
It's so uncanny when they opt for no nipples. Like they clearly weren't trying to look male since men still have nips and an overall structure to their chests, so I can only assume the goal was to look like a blank slate or an undetailed drawing of a fictional character.

No. 1806339

>>1805777 am I crazy to say I dont care if they want to get rid of their tits? not every woman necessarily likes having them and prefer the flat chest look anyways. they probably just use the theyfab excuse so it can be covered by insurance and they don't have to pay out of pocket. breasts main function is just to feed babies so as long as she doesn't plan on wanting kids in the future and bitches about not being able to breastfeed, I couldn't care less if she wants a tit chop for the aesthetics.

No. 1806342

>>1806339
No, you're not crazy and I agree, I don't see the big deal. I'm considering doing something similar and I'm not even a tif or theyfab. Me and a lot of women I've talked to wished they had small or non existent boobs. It's only conservative men and women who care because they don't really give a shit about the girl in question, they only care about her as a walking incubator.

No. 1806344

>>1806339
I'm not an expert but afaik breasts are not just random lumps of tissue that can be cut off, they have nerves and connective tissue and even "successful" mastectomies often lead to numbness etc. In addition, double mastectomy is a major surgery and as such carries all the risks associated with surgeries such as blood loss, infection, and blood clots. Wanting to cut off healthy body parts is in itself proof that you're mentally ill and cannot consent to such an operation.

No. 1806345

>>1806342
>>1806339
Same there. I just don't see what's the big deal with boobs if I don't want kids and sex. They're big, ugly, and uncomfortable.

No. 1806354

>>1806345
>>1806339
Boobs are not used for sex and are a part of your body even if you don't have children. I also sometimes want to lop off my breats because I don't like them but then I think, is this normal? Why do I think cutting off breasts is okay but I would think that someone cutting off a leg, a hand or an ear is mentally ill? It's a complicated subject I feel like. Is it because I feel like female only parts are gross? Is it because I strive to look like what I deem the standard, which is a male-like chest? I wouldn't think of removing some of my healthy teeth or fingers just because I don't use all of them. It could be a matter of tastes but is it really normal to go through such invasive and crippling body modifications just for tastes?

No. 1806355

>>1806345
Maybe yours are big ugly and uncomfortable but that's a disgusting thing to say about people's normal, natural bodies.

No. 1806357

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>>1806314
You made me remember this secret. "Porn made me realize I'm a trans girl and I would be desired" sounds akin with "Porn made me realize women like it that way".

No. 1806359

>>1806345
This is so fucking beta kek. Would a man ever be like "uwu I don't want children or sex time to cut m gross big ugly balls of ewww". Get a goddamm grip

No. 1806360

>>1806338
>I can only assume the goal was to look like a blank slate or an undetailed drawing of a fictional character.
This is exactly it. Blogpost but I used to date a TIF with this exact mindset. She often told me that she wished she could look like a Ken doll, with no discernible genitalia and no breasts and nipples either. Every woman has experience with internalized misogyny, but I feel like that mindset takes it to a new level… or maybe it's always been that bad for many, and the trans movement is simply making people more open about it. Bleak either way.

No. 1806361

>>1806359
Well there was a ‘nullo’ who cut off his cock and balls who said prostate orgasms were all he needed.

No. 1806365

>>1806361
Sounds like a mentally ill freak

No. 1806368

>>1806324
I feel like this comic is a Rorschach test - viewers can interpret it in many different ways depending on where they fall in pro- or anti- TRA ideology. Maybe the high heel means that women who accept that they are women and don’t cut their tits off due to internalized misogyny are braver. The pessimistic side of me thinks that Noelle, still totally brainwashed by TRA ideology, is trying to say that the men who dress up as women are braver because these stunning and brave laydees are being genocides by TERFs every day, while TIFs like her are relegated to the back of the bus in conversations about troonery.

My dream is for Noelle to grow a backbone, detransition, and write an autobiographical memoir about her time in gender hell. I bet that JKR could help her secure a publishing deal lmao. If Ellen Page ever detransitions she could play Noelle in the movie adaptation of her comic.

No. 1806373

>>1806321
Honestly I have lost sympathy for her, she is a victim of her own shitty life decisions and should be treated as such.

No. 1806382

>>1806339
You are 15 years old? Because it is not normal for an adult woman to have that thought, you are on the same level as a misogynistic tifs. Get help please.If you want to have a flatter chest, exercise, play a sport or something. Don't try to normalize mutilation

No. 1806384

>>1806361
men who cut their shit off are very rare mentally ill fetish poisoned freaks of nature. Meanwhile it seems like every other woman nowadays is fantasizing about putting a machete to her body and slicing off the parts she personally finds undesirable. Its pretty much a universal female experience to fantasize about getting your fat or boobs cut off. Why? You are born how you are born and you have the parts that you have. And now some of the anons here are regurtitating the same "uuuh well i dont want kids sooo im gonna pretend to be a tranny to get my tits removed". If you think like this you are either really fucking dumb and misogynistic or youre so terminally anabrained that youre 2 seconds from trooning out. No normal man would act like this ever. Why do only we entertain self mutilation fantasies?

No. 1806390

>>1806339
you and every anon agreeing are stupid as fuck and are obviously gender critical without the critical part. you cannot remove such large parts of your body without complications. chronic pain, scars healing in ways that your range of motion is limited, the surgery itself limiting your range of motion because you’re carving out tissue, infection. the list goes on. do you think a female chimpanzee wants to get rid of her breasts too? it’s not normal for any of you to be thinking this way and it’s pathetic how you all just stop there and don’t think about it any further. seek why

No. 1806392

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No. 1806397

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>>1806392
Sometimes dramaturgy or method acting can make us believe we are if we go for it hard enough (for the sake of warding off predators rather than making asses of ourselves).
It's obviously a double edged sword because then we can't be taken seriously once we prove our hardest how we're NOT dumb, decimating us to shit when it's used against us.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1806398

>>1806339
A lot of tifs seem to want the tit chop because they think boobs are for whores and they'll be seen as people if they're removed, it's deeper than just "aesthetics". Judging by the results, their surgeons don't care about aesthetics either.

>>1806354
>I also sometimes want to lop off my breats because I don't like them but then I think, is this normal?
Same nona. Slight blog, it started with wanting a reduction for back pain and sagging but has become wanting a flat chest, I don't want children anyway, but breasts aren't just for children and the surgery and complications aren't to be taken lightly so can I justify it?

No. 1806399

>>1806339
>>1806342
>>1806345
You probably think the uterus is only for growing a fetus huh
Your breasts are complex organs just like the rest of your body jfc pick a book and learn about your body, you need to know your body. Sincerely hope you're underage or lurking tifs psyoping those are extremely mentally ill takes

No. 1806404

>>1806345
>no kids
>no sex
I guess what you really want is to sew up your vagina

No. 1806405

>>1806404
A lot of women don't want or need penetration in any shape or form to have orgasms, nona.

No. 1806421

>>1806405
I know, and what I mean is that she is probably looking to completely disappear her uterus, vagina, vulva, clitoris until she is left with only the urethra.

No. 1806429

>>1805777 Im not even GC or whatever, just annoyed at the trans and theyfabs popping up everywhere. I will say that I am pro body mods, even if I personally think they're stupid. as long as they're an adult and they know all what's gonna happen, they're free to do as they wish. I don't even have an issue with people taking hormones or getting surgeries if that's what they feel makes them happy. they can do that without claiming it's gender affirming or claiming to be another gender. majority of the people getting double mascescomties or reductions are aware of the cons yet choose to go through with it anyways. can't believe I'm saying this unironically, her body her choice.

No. 1806432

>>1806339
>if they want to get rid of their tits?
>prefer the flat chest look anyways
Pick one and only one. Because removing your breasts and having small, healthy breasts are completely different situations and look completely different as well. It's like comparing cutting your hands off because you wished you had smaller hands.

>>1806345
Get psychiatrist help before posting on the internet again. Now.

No. 1806446

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a tif got caught faking being a intersex man because of taking a selfie with a dildo inside her pants

No. 1806447

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>>1806446
sorry for the low res i forgot to archive

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No. 1806456

>>1806345
>>1806345
>>1806342
the idea that removing breasts is not a big deal is just another way it is obvious people don't see women's bodies as full, whole bodies, but as a set of pieces that can be removed and changed at whim. no one thinks that i don't like my ear lobes and having them isn't essential to life so might as well cut them off. people would rightfully think you're mad. but boobs? it's like people view them as this entity separated from the rest of the body. ask yourself wtf you are thinking.

No. 1806463

>>1806456
It's so true. People tend to view only the body parts on women that don't make them female as "essential." The uterus? Let's remove it, it's not being "used" for babies, even though hysterectomy can also cause a drop in hormones, loss of libido, scoliosis and more. The breasts? Let's remove them, they're not being "used" for babies either even though mastectomies can cause pain even touching the breast tissue and loss of nipple sensation altogether. It's as if these women think these body parts are the causes of their problems and not unwanted pregnancies and sexualization by men.

No. 1806490

>>1806342
This just reeks of TiF/theyfab logic, down to the part where you said that only conservative men and women think amputating your breasts is ill-advised and they think that way because they want women to have babies. Sure some people do see women as walking incubators and genuinely don't give a fuck about those women as people. But there are also plenty of regular women (some of whom suffer from body dysmorphia themselves) who recognize that nobody who is mentally well wants to chop off healthy tissue off her body. It's disingenuous and such a TiF talking point to claim only conservative boogeymans are opposed to women removing their breasts for no reason.

No. 1806523

@ recently detrans anons please see a therapist before posting retarded takes here

No. 1806546

>>1806339
>>1806342
>>1806345
I agree with all of these posts and I've always felt this way too, I really don't get all the attacks and the hate. It's low key misogynistic to dismiss or straight up make fun of other women's genuine feelings of discomfort like that ngl, especially since many women have felt this way long before the gender cult even took off. Seriously, what purpose do boobs serve other than feeding babies and attracting attention from scrotes (and causing back pain if they're big enough), neither of which I (and many other women) want? It's like female biology is built to serve others (men and babies) and it's really depressing to think about. Feeling like this doesn't mean we want to be men or "neither", we just want to feel like our bodies belong to ourselves and nobody else. Also the responses to these posts remind me of the way gencrits are so quick to call detrans women "mutilated", it's genuinely disgusting.

No. 1806552

>>1806546
Shut up.

No. 1806568

>>1806546
Bizarre you don’t mention sexual pleasure? Plenty of women including ones with larger breasts get sexual pleasure from having their breasts touched. Whether you’re attracted to men or women, it’s a major erogenous zone that a partner can make use of.

Also little toes are useless yet we would think anyone wanting to get rid of them to make their feet slimmer has issues. The body is not plug and play, and the idea that parts should be removed or added for non medical reasons encourages viewing the body as the problem, and not the attitude towards the body. Every time a woman child her breasts off to avoid sexualization, she is telling other women with her body and story that this is a viable response to being sexualized, just like how every woman who gets an ethnic nose job reinforces the notion that ethnic noses are ugly and ski slope noses are the only beautiful ones.

No. 1806574

>>1806552
No, I don't think I will
>>1806568
>Bizarre you don’t mention sexual pleasure
The other anons already mentioned not wanting sex either so I didn't see the reason to. I'd say maybe consider that women often do things out of their own desire, no matter if those things are good or bad, and not to send a message to other women or whatever, but it wasn't my point to argue anyway, I just wanted to express my support for those three anons and I really don't see the reason for all the hate and infighting

No. 1806587

>>1806574
Why not cut off your clitoris then too since it's not "necessary"? How idiotic. Just because someone thinks they won't want sexual pleasure in the future doesn't mean they should hack off a sexual part of their bodies for something they might regret.

No. 1806619

Doesn't breast removal fuck up your hormones? Not that TiFs would know or care so much if they pump their ass with T.

No. 1806647

>>1806574
Removing breasts for non-medical purposes is literally cosmetic surgery. And you call yourself a feminist. Retard.

No. 1806648

>>1806619
Seems so? Then again, all kind of surgeries can fuck up your body in one way or another http://archive.today/5jh9J

No. 1806670

>>1806546
>It's low key misogynistic to dismiss or straight up make fun of other women's genuine feelings of discomfort like that ngl
Yes.

>It's like female biology is built to serve others

No. You could say that about dicks but you didn't. Wonder why.

No. 1806694

>>1806368
>Noelle, still totally brainwashed by TRA ideology, is trying to say that the men who dress up as women are braver because these stunning and brave laydees are being genocides by TERFs every day, while TIFs like her are relegated to the back of the bus

DA yeah it's definitely this and not any desire to detransition imho. Both Noelle and Ellen Page are very deep into the cult brainwashing at this point

No. 1806695

>>1806546
being uncomfortable with your breasts because of the patriarchy is no different from anorexic girls being uncomfortable with their own bodies because of unrealistic beauty standards, or even the TIFs being uncomfortable with being perceived as women. you agree that your discomfort is socially constructed and is the result of your own thinking; there is nothing inherently wrong with your breasts or body, you just don't like it because of how society perceives you. men will fetishize ANY body part; should you amputate yourself until your body doesn't physically exist at all, just so you are finally free of male objectification?

if your breasts cause you physical complications due to size, then i understand why they're not just something you can ignore because they affect your daily life, but otherwise you need to learn to accept yourself for who you are and accept your body for what it is. i don't think about my breasts the same way i don't think about any other body part. they're just there. i don't see the point of attaching all these meanings to them because you're just going to stress yourself out the more you think about it.

No. 1806714

>>1806390
I think a lot of women who go through this have larger breasts compared to normal, and while mastectomies are risky, mine didn’t make my motion restricted, etc. I think there needs to be more sympathy for the struggles of how hard it is to be unfortunately busty to the point where it does limit our health. For me, my motion improved after the masectomy because no proper bra ever gave the the support prior, because bras aren’t perfect no matter how well fitted they are. I don’t think I’m the only GNC woman who has been roped into this mess either, most feminine women I know get recommended breast reductions, but GNC ones get told they’re secretly men and should get a full on mastectomy. The reasons for why it’s becoming so normalized is a mixture of the realities of dealing with breasts when they aren’t a small and easy size to live with, along with misogyny. It’s disingenuous to not accept that having a large bust does make life harder, even just to do athletics.

No. 1806752

>>1806714
you were crazy enough, obsessed with the size of your boobs, and decided to cut them off before seeking real help and now you're trying to make a speech about how healthy it is to remove your boobs, please go to hell no matter how gnc you are not It is the same a reduction to removing them completely. You are on the same level as Noelle, she also became obsessed with the size of her breasts until she considered them useless and I remove them now she is a depressed theyby

No. 1806754

>>1806752
Sage your autism.
I’m not making a speech, I’m simply saying a reality of dealing with overly big breasts? Do you seriously not care about back pain, how it can hurt to run, and actually exercise? Have you never experienced being unable to do sports because of your body hurting suddenly, and being unable to stop it? It’s one thing to be an A or B cup, it’s another to be an F cup and have it severely impact your life. My “speech” was about how GNC women are pushed into believing that this means they’re men, when in reality it has nothing to do with that. I never considered my chest useless at any point, you need to gain some reading comprehension and learn to integrate. You sage unless you have actual milk to share, idiot.

No. 1806757

>>1806342
Breasts are so sexualized and seen as a disgusting unnecessary addition to a woman's body/ a free for all for degradation or public humiliation that the solution to this is "eh chop em off even without disphoria you'll look better and people won't harass you". That's so sad.

No. 1806759

>>1806752
she said was that GNC women who seek breast reductions due to health issues are pushed into full mastectomies instead, she's not saying it's healthy to cut off your breasts you fucking retard

No. 1806764

>>1806759
>>1806754
It does not take away the fact that her way of thinking is pathetic and sad

No. 1806773

>>1806764
The one telling you to sage your autism, me, is the one you’re disagreeing with. Only scrotes freak out when they hear how big breasts aren’t healthy to actually have and that some women need breast reductions for their own health. It’s clear you’re new because you don’t even know how to sage your moid level emotional breakdown, kek.

No. 1806778

>>1806447
I remember seeing this on my FYP (despite not liking/following any troonshit) and thinking, "this person is lying, there's no way that's a male." Sure enough, she got busted kek

No. 1806786

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>>1806546
>It's low key misogynistic to dismiss or straight up make fun of other women's desire to chop off healthy body parts
Yeah, and it's high-key misogynistic to normalize it. Go be mentally ill somewhere else.

No. 1806790

>>1806239
TIFs truly are the equivalent of AGP TIMs. Their yaoi anime porn addiction makes them want to become the object of their desire. There are almost 0 mentions in search engines about transmen before 2010. It all spread through slash fanfic on Livejournal, Fanfictionnet

No. 1806796

>>1806546
If you genuinely think the female body is built to serve others than you're nothing but a misogynistic dumbass and on the exact same level as aidens chopping off their tits because they think boobs are for whores. Some of you need to get a fucking grip and get over yourself. Sorry that having normal female body parts personally inconveniences you. Maybe in the next life you'll become the unsexed neutral moidkun of your dreams

No. 1806811

>>1806546
You have boobs because you are a mammal, it doesn't matter if you use them or not.

No. 1806814

>>1806647
>>1806695
>>1806796
Fucking this. Breast reduction surgery due to physical discomfort (back pain etc.) is one thing and sometimes it can be beneficial, but normalizing the cutting off of healthy body parts is such a fucking mentally ill beta move I can't even fathom how someone could think of oneself as feminist while not seeing it as a problem. The penis of a scrote exists on this Earth for the purpose of providing sperm in order to create a new human being, and because 90% of scrotes are genetic waste anyway, might as well cut off the dicks of those that aren't going to be used for reproductive/sexual purposes (of serving women, that is). Listen to yourselves for once and grow a spine, cutting off your breasts is sick and you should get rid of that mindset. Breasts are part of your body the way your toes or ears or liver are, the male body is not the default.

No. 1806822

File: 1681204263062.jpg (121.91 KB, 1080x1202, 338960398_516707527339351_9015…)

From the creator of "Tumblr Sexy Man", this was posted right after the government passed new pro-trans laws:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/02/finland-new-gender-recognition-law-a-major-step-towards-protecting-trans-rights/

No. 1806827

>>1806822
As always, TIFs want to disappear to blend in with the scrote crowd/not out themselves as female, TIMs want to be hypervisible to constantly screech about muh transmisogyny while still being physically and socially imposing to any lowly cis woman who might dare criticize them

No. 1806833

>>1806546
>I am an incredibly insecure woman and I think my body only exists to serve men, so I think it's right for me and other women to cut off the parts used for serving men so I can be free and superior.
And women with breasts and uterus are all whores right? They all secretly love being cock sleeves for the superior male, otherwise why would they choose to keep their cock-accomodating parts and not mutilate themselves to be free from sexualization?
Your body is already yours. Your boobs are simply a part of your body, your uterus and vagina are just how your body is built. They'll be useful in case you want to have children, but they do not belong to the child or to males. Plenty of things in your body don't have purpose, yet you're not going on about how you want to cut off some fingers, toes, ears, lungs, or other organs. You hate breasts because male view them as things that belong to them and you believe them. It's insane how some of you come here to laugh at tifs while behaving exactly like them and spouting woman-hating bullshit left and right because you can't help being disgusted by the icky whores who keep their bodies intact.

No. 1806838

>>1806833
NTA, and I don’t want to sound patronizing nona, but is this really how OSA tifs think? I ask because I honestly did get a weird vibe from them and their hatred for the female body when I was directly involved in the communities. I think that homosexual TIFs are more complex, but you might be on to something when it comes to these fujotifs. There is absolutely nothing that holds them back when they feel like they can step over other women and raise men up, OSA tifs look like MRAs to me.

No. 1806842

>>1806833
NTA, and I don’t want to sound patronizing nona, but is this really how OSA tifs think? I ask because I honestly did get a weird vibe from them and their hatred for the female body when I was directly involved in the communities. I think that homosexual TIFs are more complex, but you might be on to something when it comes to these fujotifs. There is absolutely nothing that holds them back when they feel like they can step over other women and raise men up, OSA tifs look like MRAs to me.

No. 1806851

>>1806342
>Me and a lot of women I've talked to wished they had small or non existent boobs
and that's not good nor is it normal. it's a sad effect of a misogynistic society, which is the actual problem.
you guys need to learn to accept your body as normal and default and unlearn all the horrible shit that scrotes associate with your body parts.
yeah congrats, you are self-aware enough to realize that you hate your body because of how women are objectified, but instead of thinking about it deeper and reaching the correct conclusion (that misogynistic ideas in society need to be destroyed), you just stop there and decide to "solve" the "problem" by removing the healthy body parts through which men make you feel like an object as a shitty temporal solution (you will always have female organs and female internal anatomy, and if you were able to remove all of them you would probably wish you died due to all the unnecessary pain and complications you went through) and promoting the idea that it's a good solution and shouldn't be criticized. your logic is basically blaming your own female body for getting sexualized by moids, and punishing it (yourself) by mutilating it. that's basically like blaming women who dress a certain way for being raped instead of blaming moids for being rapist animals.

also you all sound really young. wait till you grow older to seriously consider mutilating yourselves (and we use the word "mutilate" because that's literally what it is, don't sugarcoat it. how can you be aware that plastic surgery exploiting people's insecurities is bad for women but think removing your breasts isn't the same shit?)

>>1806790
the idea of women being able to become men in real life did not spread through slash fanfic you retard. slash fic and yaoi already had existed decades before 2010. particularly insecure girls from misogynistic societies are attracted to those genres because it provides escapism where women aren't the subject of sexualization, but slash and yaoi weren't created to promote gender ideology. gender ideology was first promoted in western post-modern academia and later western medicine because it turned out to be profitable. also not all TIFs are fujos, especially older ones, so how do you even explain that

No. 1806854

>>1806851
idk when women with large breasts get harassed by moids even when they cover themselves up I kinda understand why they'd want smaller ones. It doesn't warrant actually going through with it except for back pain etc, but idk how it's so crazy to imagine their feelings.

No. 1806858

>>1806854
>idk how it's so crazy to imagine their feelings
every woman can imagine those feelings and have probably also had those feelings themselves. all i'm saying is that, regardless of how you feel, the solution is not to go throught with it and chop your breasts off and tell other women to do it. instead of doing that why don't you try finding other, less harmful ways to cope with everyday sexism that don't involve self-mutilation? most adult women find a way, especially when they support each other emotionally.

No. 1806876

>>1806842
NTA but SSA tifs can definitely be driven by extreme internalized misogyny as well. A personal cow of mine is a lesbian tif who uses very degrading language when describing her own body and breasts for example, only to turn around and blog about what kind of breasts she likes on other women. She also writes MRA-like rants about how women are inferior and she's a true tranny with muh malebrain. I think both groups (OSA and SSA tifs) are heterogenous and individual women have different reasons for trooning out, or rather the ways and extent to which internalized misogyny plays a role in it differ from case to case.

No. 1806907

>>1804338
>>1804646
I use dappervolk since I like the art and the fantasy setting for dressing up avatars, but there's so much gender bs (I also play flightrising and there's less wokeness on there). It seems like the average user claims to be 18-30. But I know I used to lie about being an adult on Gaia and all the petsites that I used as a kid.

Pretending that trans shit is real for a moment, it's only supposed to be like 1% of the population. But every misfit teen who dresses alt is trans? Okay.

No. 1806923

>>1806546
before you start asking for sympathy, know that many of us taking issue with what you are all saying are detrans or have struggled with dysphoria. we’ve struggled and fought hard to come to the understanding that our discomfort with our bodies are irrational responses to the way society treats us and we’ve fought to have other women come to this realization. so naturally, when you come onto these threads with the semi apologetic tone talking about “Well… can we offer some exceptions?” without a fucking ounce of critical thought on why removing a significantly large part of your body would be bad, we’ll get pissy with you. stop doing the irresponsible thing and giving these thoughts credible voice where other women on their path of resolving dysphoria can see it. the easy thing to do for these women is to see what you, someone who is masquerading as someone with her best interests in mind, posting about how “if a woman wants to do it, there’s nothing wrong with it,” and giving into those thoughts instead of the difficult work of accepting her body.

you and previous anons seem to be very misaligned with why the transgender movement is bad for women. It’s not because they’re funny and cringe and thinking they’re men when they’re not, it’s because they’re all cultivating and encouraging a discomfort so strong that they’re disassociating from and altering their bodies. it is on the level of anorexia sprouting up in women by droves (sometimes both at the same time) in that the body most often changes for the worse in terms of health and function. the tranny encouraging you to get a double mastectomy on your healthy body is no different than the GC/trans critical/radfem poster telling you the same because the end product is the same, the thought process is the same. a tranny telling you that boobs are useless and only function to serve others is the same exact thing as a woman on this thread posting about it to a woman with gender dysphoria reading this thread. stop being so fucking careless and flippant with your words if you really care about misogyny. I hope you step back from what everyone is telling you all and listen.

No. 1806967

>>1806851
>also you all sound really young. wait till you grow older to seriously consider mutilating yourselves
I haven’t read further up itt yet but wanted to chime in to agree. I wanted top surgery from like ages 19-23. I’m now 25 and so so SO thankful I never had it. In fact I can’t stand looking at anyone’s top surgery, it looks like body horror to me. I physically wince at the sight.

No. 1806982

>>1805698
virginia tech shooter was a violent creep who stalked other women and scared one of his professors. he probably should have been bullied kek

No. 1807003

File: 1681231222335.jpg (128.36 KB, 1079x1071, Screenshot_20230411-183224_Sam…)

>>1806822
Oh so now they're admitting trans surgeries and care are "harmful requirements" and "invasive medical procedures"? I thought they were life saving, you know, like they've all been preaching for years?

I would like them to specify exactly what about the procedures are bad, and if they're so bad why are they the ONLY solution for some trans people but not all trans people? And how exactly can they be sure what kind of trans they're dealing with, the ones who's life will be saved by it or the one who has to endure these invasive and harmful events?

No. 1807009

>>1807003
At that point what the hell does trans even mean? They're so close to realizing that gender is just a meaningless synonym for personality.

No. 1807055

>>1807003
My knowledge might be a few years old but I am not quite certain what they mean by "invasive medical procedures" as the only actual medical requirement was that you are infertile. If memory serves, being two years on hormones was enough to classify as being infertile. No surgery or other "invasive medical procedures" were ever required.

As for the "psychiatric procedures": you first had to go through the trans clinic route that used to take around a year but since the increase in patients takes forever now. At the clinic you would go through different psychological evaluations regarding your gender identity, your general life situation, if you are ready both in mental and physical sense, your wishes on the transition and so on. After that you would do a so called "real life test" where you would live as the gender you identify as for about a year, after that you would need a second opinion from the other clinic you haven't been to yet, and after that you could be referred to hormone therapy and surgeries.

Now you can just freely apply for having your juridical sex changed on paper.

No. 1807177

>>1804176
What could that censored item be, and why would anything be censored in the first place? Anyone familiar with American law enforcement take a guess?

No. 1807188

>>1807003
>abolishes the harmful requirements for trans people
Which trans people pissed themselves trying to advocate for in the first place. Why do they want to undo it now, and why is it a victory to undo it now when before they'd screech "twansphobe!!!" about that.

No. 1807319

>>1806773
I think you're skirting around that anons sentiment entirely. If we gear entirely toward some radical acceptance of constant breast removal then it begins to look like a requirement to young women. And then it becomes even more stigmatized, sexualized, and associated with some sort of genetic failing or impurity. The absolute fact of the matter is that the ostracization that comes with breasts is ridiculous and purposely humiliating, and both women and men are perpetrators of treating them poorly. Another ED-centric revival in Western countries will also mean in this new climate that more young women are going to be removing their breasts as flippantly as rhinoplasties, and the excuse will be "back pain" instead of "deviated septum." The social repercussions of this will be far reaching and leave a lot of young women hating their bodies in an entirely new and evolved way.

No. 1807321

>>1806854
The easiest way to imagine their feelings is to imagine being harassed almost every day of your life for extremely visible parts of your body you have no way of hiding, often when they are still a child. A lot of girls that develop breasts early do so between ages 9-12. Being an actual child and your family as well as strangers, women and men alike, commenting on your body like an object meant for consumption rather than letting you live like a kid should be allowed. You are now forced to be aware of your body as a sex object for public consumption and be stringently given the responsibility of policing yourself at all times so that you are not putting yourself on display. They are told they cannot even let their guard down about their bodies even in their own homes, as early as 9 years old. Sounds terrible imo. On top of being referred to as a sex object as a child, you are also constantly bombarded with signaling social commentary, and media calling them useless sacks of fat that make clothes look slutty and disgusting. Instead of addressing this issue and forcing people to confront their need to actually casually sexually harass and make fun of women for things beyond their control, we are rewarding the removal of the "issue," and now younger women are being made to think slicing them away is their only means of feeling like a normal person. Cool cool cool.

No. 1807337

>>1807321
>You are now forced to be aware of your body as a sex object for public consumption and be stringently given the responsibility of policing yourself at all times so that you are not putting yourself on display. They are told they cannot even let their guard down about their bodies even in their own homes
Yes all of this. Especially surreal when it's your own parents who introduce you to these ideas, like you dont even have respite from this weird new attitude towards your growing body around your own family. My mother has talked about my body the way I imagine incel moids would, like saying that she bets I like being men's entertainment. Why is my natural body men's entertainment the moment I stop paranoidly hiding myself away? Why does the woman who made me want to put me down for my body becoming a woman's? Yeah I'm venting now but I related a lot to what you described nona

No. 1807348

>>1807337
The problem is that even a lot of women refuse to put themselves in the shoes of other women who developed earlier or larger than they have and have views about it similar to men's. Instead of putting any critical thought into the damaging experiences of being a child forced to bear sole responsibility to protect themselves from extremely uncomfortable objectification from all sides, they also mock and ostracized these women. There are also many women who think its some sort of positive as well, like all women should be grateful to have had that experience as a child. They only view it as some sort of benefit in adulthood and don't even stop to think of how it affected their social and psychological development as a kid. And then men think its dramatic to say something like this, like its supposed to be flattering to be a literal child and have this incredible burden of shame. Grosser part being that men only think of the sexual aspect of a child having breasts–they believe that if they were born a girl and developed large breasts in puberty that it's some sort of status, they don't have the ability to empathize with the concept of being sexualized as a child because they create so many sexual fantasies and scenarios in their own mind, unironically believing that it would be a gift. Even many gay men are the same way. When they look back at experiences in their childhood, they do so as a sexual adult and thus find the novel idea of noncon/molestation where they are the reciever to be "hot" because they are in an adult male body that is seldom challenged and have no concept of being a girl/woman who is targeted solely for their biological sex. Most men don't know what it's like to be genuinely objectified and overpowered, so women and their woes are like totes fake and dwamatic.

No. 1807358

>>1807319
I think you don’t understand what back pain is like from breasts that quite literally limit the function to do simple basic things like running. Getting a reduction for overall health isn’t some slippery slope into gender ideology. My point is that doctors push women INTO gender ideology when we express wanting a reduction, especially if we are GNC and lesbians. Did you miss the part where I said it’s one thing to be an F cup compared to a B cup?

>>1807348
>The problem is that even a lot of women refuse to put themselves in the shoes of other women who developed earlier or larger than they have and have views about it similar to men's.

And it’s happening in this thread, kek. Thank you, nona.

No. 1807379

>>1806833
That reads like projecting to other women that they should follow a tif's footsteps bruh…

And there's a logical fallacy; if "my body only exists to serve men" part fits with tifs trooning, wouldn't the purpose of tif existence be defeated and obliterated?

And then normal, intact women (like ~49% of the population) are "whores" unless they become tif? Like there is no escape; as if their only way to live as a woman is no longer viable.

We live in a period of insanity; in the form of now there is an easy pipeline/overlap of women and tifs, and tifs are no longer just an edge case.

No. 1807380

>>1807379
To add it sounds like the capabilities of what women can do beyond what society sees becomes exposed, and it leads to some of the ladies here acting like tifs.

No. 1807381

>>1807358
>The problem is that even a lot of women refuse to put themselves in the shoes of other women who developed earlier or larger than they have and have views about it similar to men's.

They don't unless internalized.
Some women feel jealous, and want it for themselves. In no part without male intervention would they think like this.

No. 1807406

File: 1681288835533.png (20.38 KB, 890x306, delusional woman.png)

Can we please go back to making fun of tifs and fakebois

No. 1807408

>>1807381
Is this true though? I’ve known plenty of bi women who wouldn’t ever want bigger than a B cup for their own bodies, but on other women they will fetishize and degrade a woman for having bigger breasts much like a man would do, even if they want to date her, since attraction doesn’t mean respect. Not every woman does this, obviously, but the narc bi ones do. That’s where I’m stumped, when a woman doesn’t want to have big breasts for herself, why would she go out of her way to fetishize them? Would this still be considered self hatred? I think you’re on to something nona but I can’t figure it out in my one track mind.

No. 1807409

>>1807406
at first I wasn't sure what you meant but as soon as I scrolled up I saw the thesis length essays kek

No. 1807411

>>1807408
Well, maybe they make her horny but she doesn’t necessarily like them? Not all women are nice people, just look at it from the bright side. At least they don’t butcher people like male serial killers fixated on breasts do.

No. 1807428

>>1807408
I'm an A cup who likes women with larger breasts, I just think they're sexy. I wouldn't want a woman to be uncomfortable or feel degraded by my attraction to her though, it's not like boobs are everything but people are gonna always think body parts are sexually attractive, it's just about having decency to not stare and not act aggressive towards girls with larger chests with the fucked up assumption they're inherently sluts for just having big breasts. Most women I've met who were uncomfortable with their chests weren't just DD they were BIG like F+.

And touching on the topic anyway, I think reductions are totally good to get if you're uncomfortable with your chest size be it due to pain or unwanted attention. Anons here are giving very little sympathy to those with big chests and are basically saying since it's so misogyny that causes the issue of discomfort you're not ALLOWED to want a reduction and you must suffer at hand of it or else men win. Men are already winning because they just want to ogle tits anyway.

No I don't think mastectomies are the answer unless medically necessary (much more complicated, awful healing procedure, often heal weirdly with excess fat on the sides or are misshapen), but I 100% support girls who want reductions if it makes their lives more comfortable. We deal with enough!!!

No. 1807430

>>1807428
Also yes forgot to sage SORRY!!!

No. 1807431

>>1807428
Also yes forgot to sage SORRY!!!

No. 1807432

>>1807428
Also yes forgot to sage SORRY!!!

No. 1807433

>>1807428
Also yes forgot to sage SORRY!!!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1807436

Please stick to the topic, refrain from blogposting about your cup sizes and go back to posting about cows.

No. 1807444

>>1806822
She doesn't want to be visible? Poor dear, imagine how minorities who didn't choose to be minorities feel. They're always so loud and proud until they don't have 100% support and they crumple like the weak little girls they are. If they ever faced real adversity they wouldn't be playing this stupid game.

No. 1807455

>>1807444
>weak little girls
As opposed to what? “Real and good minorities” like black men who respond to cops asking for their ID by pulling out guns? Weird misogynistic phrasing.(racesperging)

No. 1807466

>>1807406
Where the fuck is the old days where girls simply (now known as "cisgender" man, as in larping as an actual male because trans was not a thing back then)larp as boys? Like the penis photoshop and pretending to be traps…

No. 1807479

File: 1681304212018.jpg (40 KB, 630x630, Tumblr_l_285517305872071.jpg)

i really thought it was a joke but it's tumblr so ofc it wasn't and everyone reblogging it just say 'my gender' or any other gen z gender related words.

No. 1807505

File: 1681309785006.jpg (93.66 KB, 579x863, ninini.jpg)

imagine if you all "there is nothing wrong with women wanting to get rid of their big whorish attention taking boobs" nonnies just went "well of course it is completely understandable if some woman with big, hooked nose wanted to get plastic surgery for it, how could you blame her! society views her nose as ugly so why wouldn't getting rid of it be a valid solution?" like are you listening to yourselves

>>1806822
anyway, this girl seems like she's gotten worse and worse after transitioning and she's got phantom nipples now

No. 1807520

>>1807444
calling them weak little girls and saying they as woman have never faced adversity is just weird as fuck. some of you are moidbrained in the worst ways

No. 1807528

>>1806822
Idg what she's complaining about with this. We just passed the moronic law that allows one to change their legal gender based on self-identification, and there is no epidemic of "transphobia" or "violence against trans people" to speak of. She's just another example of a chronically anxious and depressed TiF who externalizes her mental health issues on imaginary boogeymans like muh violence against twans people

No. 1807545

>>1807505
Men have nipples that get hard, these girls just have intense trauma responses to their own sexuality and convinced themselves it's about being a woman

No. 1807553

>>1807545
No, that particular comic is about phantom nipple syndrome

No. 1807579

>>1807545
Nonnie do you have brain damage

No. 1807621

https://www.tumblr.com/floofymcmuffin2317/likes

Still waiting on that manifesto.

Surprised that her tumblr went into 2022.
Thought that site died.

No. 1807628

>>1807505
>>1807553
What the fuck is phantom nipple syndrome? I have literally never felt my nipples harden. They do get stiff sometimes but I've never been able to feel it becasue my bra just keeps them in place. Have these tranny women just never worn a proper bra in their life?(sage your shit)

No. 1807629

>>1807621
I’m envious of people who think tumblr died instead of becoming troon heaven. I never stopped using it tho and there’s lots of funny ass terfy nonas if you dig deep

No. 1807634

>>1807621
I wish tumblr died. Instead what's left is 30+ year old troons who try and fail to be funny and creepy "pro-life feminist" tradthots thinking they're so speshul and different and that they invented the concept of claiming to be a "traditional (YET FEMINIST!!) christian woman" when that dumb have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too pickme tactic is literally as old as feminism itself

No. 1807635

>>1807479
More like "Girls who think they're gay boys are mentally ill".

No. 1807638

>>1807628
Well women tend to sometimes be naked so I am assuming their nipples have hardened while naked. Phantom nipple syndrome is just phantom limb syndrome but with nipples.

No. 1807639

>>1807520
Yeah, we're totally moidbrained. The right thing is clearly to encourage women to chop off their body parts because men look at them weird. We'll have tons of young women "freeing" themselves by removing their breasts, and the ones who rightfully want to keep their bodies will be treated like broodmares for males, because having breasts automatically means you're willing to experience male abuse (otherwise you would get rid of them). Women mutilate themselves to feel like people, while males remain unpunished.

No. 1807648

File: 1681332057272.png (84.14 KB, 575x411, danny birthing person.png)

from a just-aired dr phil segment on 'Are Women Being Erased?' this TIF literally says "Hi, I'm Danny, I'm a non-binary birther. I gave birth 20 months ago. I did it as a non-binary person not a woman"

No. 1807650

>>1807648
at least they're on the circus freak circuit where they belong

No. 1807652

>>1807628
They removed their nipples but feel like they're still there. Just like limb amputees sometimes feel sensations from their missing limb (phantom limb syndrome)

No. 1807654

>>1807638
Yes but even during sex or bathing hard nipples cant be felt unless theycare touching something, they're a visual only thing. Like a cowlick in hair, you might notice your hair follicles feel different but unless you see the cowlick or it touched something abnormal you wouldn't.

No. 1807657

>>1807654
In your experience.

No. 1807747

>>1807654
Nta but no??? People can feel both of those things without interacting with them. This is the first time I'm hearing that some people can't. Maybe you're just not very touch sensitive nona but I don't think that's like the norm.

No. 1807758

>>1807747
Nta but I also don't feel them unless their touching something like previous nonna mentioned. Is this really not the norm?

No. 1807778

>>1807648
these people should become non-binary urn-fillers instead of wreaking their genetic havoc upon the earth

No. 1807820

File: 1681352839114.jpg (737.49 KB, 1483x2048, FtXLKPIX0AEiRSJ.jpg)

seeing talent drown in "transmasc swag" is so sad

No. 1807831

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>>1807820
I feel the same. I never really ran into tims in art spaces but I ran into a metric fuckton of tifs and a lot of them were extremely talented. To me the subject matter doesn't erase their skill, but it is a bit disappointing to watch someone develop their art so well just to draw women with golden mastectomy scars and greek "boys" fucking in a field over and over again. Did anyone here ever come across foulserpent on tumblr? She had some pretty incredible worldbuilding and creature design and mostly used it to draw comics about trans lizard furries having sex lol.

No. 1807873

>>1807820
>the modern gentleman appreciates nature's bounty but shapes it in accordance with his excellent tastes
I've never seen a tif appreciate her body, either cuts her breasts off to become the yaoi or changes her bio to he/him so that showing her cleavage is now a brave and special thing to do. If she did, she wouldn't be tif.

No. 1807881

>>1807634
There’s a surprisingly large terf community on there

No. 1807882

>>1807758
It depends, I don’t really feel sensation in mine unless they’re touching something but I feel aware of them if that makes any sense. Like if it’s cold and my chest feels cold that feeling extends to the nipple. Idk if it’s enough to notice if they were missing though.

No. 1807917

>>1807873
Not to mention that binding itself can cause damage to your ribs, skin and breast tissue. It's so sad these young women don't realize they could dress in classical style and vintage suits or whatever while being women and not mutilating their body.

No. 1807932

>>1807917
Not to mention it would be more empowering to subvert old-fashioned gender roles as a nonconforming woman while doing so.

No. 1807935

>>1807648
If she took testosterone while pregnant that baby is fucked up for life, all for the sake of her own vanity of wanting to look male while giving birth

No. 1807949

>>1807881
Perhaps because the fakebois are now on Twitter since they can post their fugly deformed bodies there

No. 1808043

>>1807820
So weird to me how many tifs salivate over the Victorian era England. Like I don't doubt that this tif knows about how anyone except the rich and white elites were treated back then, so she has to make up for it by shoving an obese person and a black person there in order to whitewash the realities of that era. Yes I am very convinced that fashion designers in the 1870s would have hired black and obese people to model for their clothing.

No. 1808129

>>1808043
believe me when I tell you that they don't know how "normal" people were treated back then or just ignore it. I went to school with an older woman and she thought that people in paintings back then were normal, poor people showing what they wore daily, not rich or royal people. Those people live in their own world, they are like the ones going to medieval markets thinking they would be the princess or the witch that didn't got burnt.

No. 1808134

>>1808043
It’s not that deep. They just like the aesthetics.

No. 1808161

>>1805777
Sometimes I wonder how much of this is related to women's clothes not actually being designed for women's bodies or undergarments, and the underlying message that it's your body that's wrong rather than that the clothes are poorly made. Take her black dress here— small triangle bodice won't cover most bra cups, thin straps show bra straps which can be considered tacky, no built-in bodice support for going bra-less which would only work for a small subset of women anyway. I know when I was younger and more insecure, going shopping only for almost everything I tried on to fit like shit made me feel terrible about myself; I imagine she does feel less stressed now that she's surgically forced her body into fitting more clothes and that's what she's calling "euphoria".

No. 1808164

>>1808043
I feel sorta the same when tifs or tims love "old and peaceful poc culture until evil people arrived". Hell, I'm even surprised when TIFs think the gender surgery you'll have if you live in any Islamic country will make you happy for being recognized as a man. No, Aiden, you're going to still be a woman in those countries and with zero talk in anything.

No. 1808412

File: 1681445398741.jpeg (Spoiler Image,120.78 KB, 908x970, FsHI-cJXgAEBtbj.jpeg)

Today on "Tattoos people will cover when they're in their 50's".

No. 1808445

>>1808412
This makes me want to a-log. It could have been cool if she was a lesbian and it said dyke but this is just…

No. 1808463

>>1808043
I have two diffrend tinfoils for diffrent kind of tifs
1. Tifs love how male-centered previous times were, they think if they were born in those periods they would be handled with kid gloves as males do. Look at the text on this image, it's styled as vintage advertisements when people would use the word "man" instead of "human". Tifs want a piece of that, they want to feel superior too.
2. You know how male trannies who are into the 1950s fetishize female oppression and act like sexualized tradwifes, tifs want the opposite of that, they feel like they are "reclaiming" the aesthetic of old times by adding "progressive" things to that.
With this particular tif >>1807820 it's definitely the first one

No. 1808493

File: 1681474898726.jpg (50.5 KB, 1080x1157, 157503761_1090320528119167_145…)

>>1808134

Apparently kek. Here's some TIF fashion cringe from ig

No. 1808496

File: 1681475122551.jpeg (254.99 KB, 1080x1080, download (1).jpeg)

Artsy

No. 1808497

File: 1681475221099.jpg (250.71 KB, 1080x1350, 101025155_135231354810262_5664…)

>>1808496
Just no

No. 1808518

>>1808497
She wrote a novel (iirc? it was fiction anyway) about some pedo faggot cannibal, I've been meaning to read it for the laughs forever but haven't found it in any local library yet and I'm not interested enough to order it from a library further away (and also I don't really want that shit in my loan history kek)

No. 1808519

>>1808493
>>1808496
>>1808497
I mean she does a pretty good job looking like an autistic incel who is into electro swing and Nintendo games

No. 1808522

>>1808519
came here to post this, I'd avoid her instinctually on the sidewalk

No. 1808525

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>>1808519
chap-hop enthusiast also

No. 1808554

>>1808412
>communist
>has a bunch of random shit in her room
I’m not even a communist but I’m pretty sure real communists, or hell, performative communists would try to do shit like give her plastic crap away to the impoverished or do community work to help others. You know, stuff that aren’t posting ugly ass pictures of herself on the internet for clout, which is very anti-communist and more capitalist than eating McDonald’s while wearing Mickey Mouse ears and listening to a podcast with an iPhone.
Why are trannies always thinking that they’re communists? (It’s a rhetorical question, I know they think they will get free shit)

No. 1808555

>>1808463
honestly I don't think it's that deep. Historical costuming is super popular with women and is having a bit of a moment on youtube. I think it's telling they only idolize the periods the big historical costubers are into and are very focused on stays lol

No. 1808590

File: 1681491337304.jpg (36.55 KB, 360x480, full.jpg)

>>1808493
kek is she wearing jorts over jeans? kind of nailing the "pickup artist from mid-2000s" aesthetic, though

No. 1808598

File: 1681492949249.jpeg (Spoiler Image,163.46 KB, 1151x2048, FtiqUmBagAAqcAB.jpeg)

>>1808554
>Why are trannies always thinking that they’re communists?

Is not only for the free shit (when they ignore they will end in the Gulag if they don't move their ass).

Is because they think Communism is the reverse of National Socialism (Nazi) and Capitalism (while buying shit). Besides they haven't live in the URSS to experience the "real communism".

>That communist tattoo


My sides.

No. 1808603

File: 1681493748714.jpeg (Spoiler Image,52.06 KB, 575x680, FtiT-rDacAEcMPV.jpeg)

QUITE NSFW pic, but this must be the first time ever I see a healed phalloplasty that doesn't look like a Pringles can.

No. 1808612

File: 1681494949728.jpeg (12.04 KB, 248x275, 61B8EA0C-5CB3-437B-BBE8-6DE01F…)

>>1808603
a-are those shriveled up wrinkly things supposed to be balls?????

No. 1808613

File: 1681495086972.jpg (79.78 KB, 581x1024, Miesten-pukeutuminen-frakki4-5…)

>>1808590
lmao it kind of looks like she is, but looking closely I think that's just her $20 jacket from Wish mimicking white tie jacket back cut (picrel)

No. 1808619

>>1808603
Nonnie, that's a fucking corn dog. The angle makes it look less worse than it actually is

No. 1808621

>>1808603
… What is the hole for…

No. 1808624

File: 1681497007094.jpeg (30.43 KB, 713x644, 96A8AA80-2B09-44D0-AF03-00F4FC…)

>>1808603
Funny how with all the hair and beard you can still tell that's a woman kek

No. 1808632

File: 1681498213948.png (Spoiler Image,194.43 KB, 827x822, hjtrrdh.png)

>>1808603
>>1808621
Reminds me of something.. inb4 shitstorm

No. 1808639

>>1808598
pictures you can smell

No. 1808647

File: 1681499498698.webm (5.91 MB, 720x898, Snapinsta.app_video_330002709_…)

"Elliot" Page is going on a book tour
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq-6xPrrN_K/?hl=en

No. 1808653


No. 1808657

File: 1681502028432.jpeg (Spoiler Image,374 KB, 2048x1536, FtpzH1bagAAENV5.jpeg)

>>1808619
Found another angle and yes, still a corn dog. But looks way better than those non-healed corn dogs posted in prior threads.

>>1808632
Now I cannot unsee it.

No. 1808660

File: 1681502162063.jpeg (Spoiler Image,661.78 KB, 1536x2048, FtXoeeTaQAAO-hF.jpeg)

>>1808657
NVM I take back what I said.

No. 1808663

>>1808598
I can’t believe this woman has an uglier body than Shayna’s.

No. 1808675

>>1808660
Nooo it looks like a weisswurst! Omg how mentally ill do you have to be to do this to yourself??

No. 1808677

>>1808647
Jeez, T does jack shit for all of the side effects it has, i mean all of the women in my family naturally have deeper voices than this. In fact, I feel like T doesn't even make women's voices deeper, they just end up sounding like gravelly smokers or getting a weird nasally nerd voice. I had a former friend get on T and even my mom was confused about it because her voice was deeper and less nasally-sounding prior to taking it.

No. 1808680

>>1808639
Kek I wanted to post the same.

>>1808660
Anime is mental illness.

No. 1808689

>>1808647
i had to look up what 'pageboy' means and it's either a) a bob-like hair style for women b) the little boy who accompanies the bride at a wedding. i thought it would be a smart wordplay related to being trans but i guess she just wanted to call herself a boy like every other 30 year old TIF.

No. 1808690

>>1808689
To be fair, if she went with Page Man it would look like the story of the most boring superhero possible

No. 1808692

File: 1681505905627.jpeg (12.04 KB, 248x275, 61B8EA0C-5CB3-437B-BBE8-6DE01F…)

>>1808689
I swear to God if she reveals she's actualy "gay"(i.e actaulyl straight) I'll fucking lose it.

No. 1808703

>>1808692
Wasn't she lesbian? So I bet she'll call herself a "straight man".

No. 1808723

>>1808657
More people genuinely need to know what these Frankengenitals look like, both on tims and tifs. There's no way anyone with any fucking sense, let alone eyes, could look at that and go yep, het women, gay dudes and bis everywhere, it's your duty to have sex with THAT, don't be bigots now! People NEED to know there are no good post-op "genitals", nothing but man made abominations. If only they fucking knew.

No. 1808736

>>1808723
I already knew these things don't look or function anything like an actual penis, how the hell do they see this mess and claim it's "life saving surgery"? same with tims and their inverted neoginas

No. 1808737

>>1808736
It's quite simple, you say what you want to be true and shun and cancel anyone who contradicts you until everyone is only saying to each other what they want to be the case instead of what is the case. Standard tranny tactics.

No. 1808742

>>1808603
Is the lopsided dot in the “head” an urethra?

No. 1808746

>>1808660
She's got a zippertit tattoo and still needed to inflict a bloated play-doh tumor on herself? Tumblr is a disease.
>>1808736
Sunken cost fallacy (phallusy in this case). The other troon thread is full of men who suddenly regret replacing their dicks with pus-filled scar tubes as soon as the meds wear off from surgery. Women have been taught to never disagree with anything ever, so of course they have to love love loveeee their wonderful new heckin boi weewee, they've never wanted anything more than a corpse-tinged non-functioning Pringles can awkwardly sewn to their groin and now their lives are complete.
At least this one still has a vagina, there are horror stories of women getting serious medical complications after their frankendick surgery because their periods have nowhere to go.

No. 1808763

>>1808703
She won't call herself straight, even though she technically would be under trans rules, she'll call herself queer or maybe bi, but she'll never date a man. I could see her dating another TiF and then everyone calling them a gay male couple.

No. 1808787

>>1808647
Jesus she's aging like milk

No. 1808793

File: 1681523911059.gif (242.32 KB, 480x270, 1417384452811.gif)

>>1808723
I'm a straight nonna and that weisswurst really turned me off. Granted, penises in general might end in a YMMV category, but it looks so fake, a dildo has more details than… Whatever the doctor tried to do.

No. 1808797

>>1808703
>>1808763
She's dating a theybe, Mae Martin. Who I despise because she's on Taskmaster this season, so I have to skip it because I don't abide troonery in any of it's forms.

No. 1808798

File: 1681525351819.png (432.1 KB, 500x568, 638a6e3fed6c35eb208308ef3d2680…)

>>1807831
i loooved (and still do, honestly) foulserpent's works. if you remove all the gender shit her characters are pretty interesting and most of her compositions are stunning (i know she got the tit chop too i think? sad shit) i remember her from her mgs days and seeing her improvement with art was really nice

No. 1808801

>>1808657
>>1808660
horrific weisswurst aside, I actually can't help but be impressed by the rest of it kek
better beard than I've seen on some guys, and that's shoulder-hip ratio would probably fool me tbh if it isn't edited
and that's probably the best tit chop I've seen?

shame about the disgusting dick and the dumb tats

No. 1808804

>>1808660
Does she have face feminisation filters turned on????? Her face is so ultra smoothed over it looks 100% feminine despite the beard. No way is her skin that hairless and perfect and her eyes that anime with how the rest of her body looks.

No. 1808811

>>1808647
Kek she looks and sounds like a 12 year old boy who suddenly turned 40 overnight. And she used to be so beautiful, too … probably one of my first celebrity crushes. What a sad outcome.

No. 1808814

>>1808811
turned forty AND smoked a pack a day all those years, it doesn't sound masculine at all to me, it just registers as middle-aged chain smoker lady

No. 1808816

>>1808621
This is just a guess but from what I've read, a lot of TIFs choose to get a phalloplasty without a urethal lengthening (probably to avoid more complications), so they have to leave a small hole at the bottom for pissing. Sorry for that mental image.

No. 1808817

>>1808746
I'm not too well informed in ftm surgeries but I would assume a hysterectomy would go first before the frankenwennie? you're telling me some of them do it and still end up with periods anyways? oh my god

No. 1808874

>>1807654
Most people know about phantom pain, but you can feel pretty much anything as a phantom sensation, even the feeling of something touching your hard nipples.

No. 1808887

File: 1681546947125.jpeg (159.02 KB, 1200x1534, 2659A1AE-D00D-4BD3-AB2A-F3F69F…)

I fucking hate these people, this is just making light out of why these legislations are important. It’s kids we are worried about, the government doesn’t give a fuck if you choose to get the surgery once you’re grown, and they certainly shouldn’t be paying for cosmetic surgery before paying for people to get adequate mental health care too.

No. 1808907

>>1808043
stuff like mythology and the Victorian era where hugely popular amongst girls who where on tumblr in the early 2010's. It's the girls who grew up with those things that became trans

No. 1808909

>>1808887
I like how she drew herself looking like an ugly flabby girl kek

No. 1808935

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>>1807820
>>1808798
Sighhh it reminds me of Tessa Stone of Hanna Is Not A Boy's Name fame. Should have known; it attracted all the fakebois on Tumblr back in the day.No surprise she trooned out and her new comic is about being trans.

No. 1808941

>>1808887
I’m pretty sure the “detransition” is just not letting them get hormones to fuck up their bodies chemically (which fucks up their bodies physically).
But because of their persecution fetish they have to pretend they will get their tits or their dicks and balls stapled back as if anyone gave a fuck about the adult trannies and as if that would actually reverse the serious series of damages they all did to their bodies.
Like it’s not even about reproduction or attractiveness, it’s more like the fact that they removed healthy parts off their bodies that makes this whole transition thing so grotesque, these people act like they weren’t considered freakshows for the tv not too long ago and think everyone just magically decided that this is 100% healthy and normal.
Like, no, thinking that in order to be happy, you need to remove a part of your body that’s healthy, isn’t normal or something that should be encouraged, specially to children.

No. 1809067

>>1808887
Female nipples have to be censored at all times, even on a disembodied pair of breasts. Who would want to be a disgusting whore woman with tits to please conservative men, right? I hate these dumbass misogynists so much.

No. 1809207

>>1808647
Her neck is so thin compared to her face. It's creepy.

No. 1809211

>>1808811
So many farmers are always banging on about standards of beauty and how women don't owe performing femininity but are complaining about how beautiful Page used to be and how its ruined or something. If you watch any basic interview with Page you would notice an extremely uncomfortable, unhappy, nervous disposition. I dont think performing femininity was something Page enjoyed at all and I truly don't feel any mourning for looks here.

No. 1809229

>>1809211
There’s a difference between being gnc and trooning out, retard. She clearly looks sickly from the results of her transition and possible ED. We’re not mourning her loss of “femininity”.

No. 1809248

>>1808935
goddamnit I liked that comic, you just brought a bunch of nostalgia back to me

No. 1809257

Agreed, for me "beautiful" means a physically and mentally well person with a pleasant energy about them. Page now looks like a depressed dried raisin

No. 1809263

>>1809211
She looks like the female counterpart to Dylan Mulvaney but as a self-hating lesbian. The pity isn't her looks, it's that she's mutilated her body with surgery and hormones to look like a caricature of a man because she convinced herself that existing as a woman was wrong.

No. 1809265

>>1808736
Well, the tif cope is usually "it's not finished yet!" since they usually do the surgery in multiple stages. Spoiler alert: it never winds up looking anything close to real and many times the cosmetic adjustments end up being put off indefinitely anyway because they have to fix all the complications first (like no longer being able to pee, part of it splitting open, or necrosis)

No. 1809266

There's nothing wrong with mourning the loss of beauty. It is a good thing and to see it ruined, especially for retarded reasons like trooning, naturally makes people feel upset.

Some Nonnies here overcompensate by claiming they do not care about their looks or even their bodily integrity. I saw posters who claimed they would give no shits about having body parts amputated. That is either downright psychosis, or more likely pretending to get dopamine from strangers telling them how based they are. It's cringe. Being content with the way you are, and appreciating beauty and health, are not mutually exclusive.

No. 1809275

>>1809211
Anon there's a difference between rejecting society's standards for femininity and outright ruining your health and your body by pumping it full of hormones and/or chopping off perfectly healthy parts of it. Page would probably still be fine if all she did was dress more masculine but the T just makes her look sick now, idk it's just sad to me.

No. 1809279

>>1808660
I actually kek'd over how ridiculous that looks. This is what mental illness does to an insecure a woman

No. 1809284

>>1809211
It's not about her performing femininity, it's the complete destroying of herself through self-hatred for the female body. It makes her ugly because she's sick and mutilated. It makes her ugly because she's encouraging young girls to hate and harm their bodies they way she does. She's the embodiment of severe self-hatred, of course she will be compared to when she did express some femininity and wasn't captured by the self-mutilation cult yet.

I sadly think Ellen will be one of those detrans/troons who commits suicide in silence without coming out as detransitioning. She'll realize the harm she did to children for encouraging them and that she can't ever undo it. I don't think she'll be able to bear it.

No. 1809338

>>1809263
I wonder if she'll also pull a Dylan Mulvaney with advertising male only products she physically cannot use like condoms, speak at events geared at men, and get used by big brands to look inclusive. Oh wait, nobody cares about tifs like that.

No. 1809366

>>1808647
She looks pushing 50 wtf HOW is she in her early 30's?? She used to look youthful before this bufoonery. What a loss Jesus fucking christ, she ruined her life.

No. 1809409

>>1809284
Can you show the alleged caps of encouragement? In the book or something….?

No. 1809410

>>1809338
>Oh wait, nobody cares about tifs like that.
The only thing they manage to do is erase women from products and awareness campaigns because oldfashioned and imprecise terms like "pregnant" and "woman" trigger he/them.

No. 1809412

>>1809366
I see no difference in the aging process other than no makeup. The only difference between now and the Vanya era is no makeup–same hairline, same lines, etc.

No. 1809416

>>1809412
I think she has that vegan ED look, like her skin lacks collagen because of her shit diet, so she looks 20 years older. I think many people simply didn't pay attention to her inbetween her successes 10+ years ago and her trooning and think the trooning is why she looks so much older than she is.

The first thing she did when she trooned was get a shitton of absurd plastic surgery all over her body, so she clearly had massive body image issues. Something nobody addresses, because they can just handwave it as "becoming her authentic self", which is an utterly retarded and nonsensical expression. It's like Madonna who says she shows the middle finger to the patriarchy and supports feminism by getting insane amounts of plastic surgery to the point she looks like a scary monster, so the people who point that out are the misogynists. Complete clown world. Up is down and dry is wet.

No. 1809456

File: 1681612394639.png (7.05 KB, 298x96, Untitled.png)

totally nonbinary and beyond gender BUT DON'T EVER USE SHE/HER EVER NO MATTER HOW GIRLY AND FEMININE EVERYTHING ABOUT MY PRESENCE IS

No. 1809532

File: 1681620734733.png (23.49 KB, 533x558, Untitled.png)

creepy

No. 1809537

>>1809532
I have never thought about my breasts as obsessively and deranged as these weirdos think and talk about theirs. This has got to be a form of OCD or some shit.

No. 1809539

>>1809532
Methinks this will be less "quirky and hilarious" and more "relatives feeling sorry for you because they think you had breast cancer"

No. 1809543

>>1809532
I'm so mad that my aunt commented on my boobs, that I will cut them off to spite her, so she will comment on them again.

No. 1809546

>>1809532
First of all as if everyone won't be able see her septic botch job right away, second of all why is she still wearing the same women's swimsuits, shouldn't she be showing off her new yaoi chest in some swim trunks, third of all every one in her family will quickly find out about the surgery and gossip behind her back endlessly, auntie most of all

No. 1809564

>>1809532
>one redeeming feminine quality
so big boobs is a "feminine quality" with big boobs being ideal. I see, totally not a girl who's internalized sexism and thinks she's a failgyne because she wasn't some feminine princess

No. 1809617

File: 1681633061394.jpg (166.13 KB, 1080x1351, Screenshot_20230416_101130_Chr…)

Yeah I'm sure all those gay dudes will be totally fooled, unless she's going to one of those "queer" bars mostly frequented by TIMs and handmade bihets.

No. 1809640

>>1809617
It's funny how she's using a filter that puts false eyelashes on her when she's trying to be a gay guy. She'd be lucky to bag another TIF tbh. TIMs would probably be angry she's tiny and feminine.

No. 1809688

>>1809532
is she really self-centered enough that she thinks this aunt or whatever would remember HER swimsuit from a year ago? I forget what my own swimsuit looks like, much less a relative I am ambivalent on.

No. 1809689

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No. 1809703

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No. 1809704

>>1809689

Surprised she didn't put ADHD and DID in there too.

No. 1809708

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No. 1809709

>>1809703
is this the end result for fujocoomers?

No. 1809710

>>1809708
>pooner gay tttt
>tttt

No. 1809720

>>1809543
I kneel.

No. 1809741

>>1808043
anon this is so clearly 1910s-1920s America most likely

No. 1809743

>>1809703
'Any gender'= men, but some of them wear pink chokers and cat ears. How do these women not see that they're being used?

No. 1809760

>>1809532
>all the comments about how gaslighting is so HiLaRIoUS
What the fuck. I feel bad for the relatives that have to put up with this crap

No. 1809782

>>1809708
I can’t imagine how these dudes are dragging her for this. Like yes men are fucking retarded but they can recognize this kind of nonsense.

No. 1809826

>>1809689
>forbade me from moving out
>I have an apartment I'm going to move into!
>21

Sounds like the parents didn't want her moving out until she had some steady income, but she talks like she's escaping a hostage situation. She even has the freedom to have a phone, car, and job, where is the abuse happening? Homophobic parents not kicking you onto the street means they care about you, even if you disgust them.

No. 1809918

>>1809703
>I have sex with straight men that feed my disillusion by claiming "I'm totally into femboys", so I'm better than those faggots thanks for porn made by women for women.

Her disillusion is over 9000.

And I have to admit the preview made me read "butt friends" rather than "buff friends".

No. 1809942

>>1809703
truly gay men write horrifyingly sexist shit about vaginas and how repulsive they are. she's fucking straight dudes or bi guys.

No. 1810017

>>1809918
delusion?

No. 1810020

>>1810017
Google Translator bullying me again.

>>1809942
No kidding. Most of them are now quite vocal with how repulsive vaginas are and no "boy pussy" will make them change of opinion. Homophobic people tell them "they need to learn to love vaginas so they can be straight" and these tifs tell them "they need to learn to love vaginas so they can date tifs".

No. 1810213

>>1809826
>Homophobic parents not kicking you onto the street means they care about you, even if you disgust them
>they care about you
>you disgust them

Hmm. Not defending this troon who could definitely be lying fof sympathy bux, just generally wondering how homophobic parents must definitely care for you simply cos they aren't doing the bare minimum of not physically harming you

No. 1810252

>>1810213
I agree with you nonna. Sounds like moidposting

No. 1810294

>>1810213
She's 21, the parents could definitely have legally kicked her out of the house. The fact that they're giving her a place to live, and didn't kick her out when she was a minor, means they care. Don't know what parts of the world you're from, but homophobic parents who find out their kids are gay can do so much worse.

Your parents disliking you is not "abuse", many children dislike their parents and find their morals and personality disgusting too.

No. 1810381

>>1810294
>your parents disliking you is not "abuse"
>homophobic parents who find out their kids are gay can do so much worse
Ayrt. I'm aware nona. I have such parents and such a family, I'm deep in the closet around them all. Dislike can lead to abuse.

>The fact that they're giving her a place to live, and didn't kick her out when she was a minor, means they care

I could be wrong but you sound American. My parents slutshamed me for moving out and said single women in our culture "don't do this", I've become westernised and I'm abandoning them.

Again, this tif could be a liar but I said all that because strict homophpbic families can attract one to trooning, like me.

No. 1810555

>>1809703
Whoa I can't believe young straight women find it easy to get old men to sleep with them, this is revolutionary

No. 1810585

>>1810555
What's more she is very conventionally attractive and a femboy, that is to say, she dresses and styles like a woman.

So she is a good looking young woman who dresses in revealing clothes, who wears make up and does her hair. And she manages to have one night stands with men.
Who are obviously gay, because she is a man.
So that proves that gay men are fakeboi accepters, and twitter is being transphobic by saying gay men wouldn't have sex with her.

No. 1810711

>>1809640
She looks like she have a male skeleton

No. 1810772

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Kek about words not having meaning anymore, this is a comment under a video of a buff half naked man
sure Susan, liking a man while being a woman totally makes you gay and all the spicy straights agree

No. 1810944

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I know there is no tif that wouldn't hate herself in some way, but this is outrageous. Imagine you're a doctor, you see a woman with legs like this and go "yea she is totally sane enough to inject this dangerous unnecessary drug in her body and totally can deal with the consequences. We should sew a kielbasa to her crotch next Tuesday".

No. 1810957

>>1810944
Why do tifs have this obsession with showing off their self harm scars in sexual contexts? I'm not saying they have to live in shame of self harm, nobody should, but what is it about tifs where they have to go out of their way ti make sure their scars are a highlighted feature of their erotic pictures (and drawings)?

No. 1810987

>>1810957
- Either is a kink.
- Reaffirms that having no tits/flat chest means they're men (when men can have tits and even can get breast cancer).
- "Big boobs are for sluts"/Misogynist views against boobs
- etc.

No. 1810999

>>1810987
I think anon was specifically talking about the leg scars.

No. 1811000

>>1810381
Very real and relatable experience, people underestimate how backwards some parents are.

No. 1811001

>>1810999
Oh I'm so used to read about the chest scars that I didn't read it was about the leg scars.

No. 1811069

>>1809703
I feel bad for her tbh. Didn’t she mention she was raped and consequently developed a non-con/guro kink?

No. 1811072

>>1810944
A horse dick… that’s enough internet for today

No. 1811090

Wasn’t sure where the best thread for this is since this chick is nb. Honestly disgusted. I’ve always hated SNL but this is just fucked

No. 1811103

>>1810987
Ayrt ok but I'm not talking about mastectomy scars, I'm talking specifically about arms and legs. A lot of pictures I've seen of tifs trying to sexualise themselves always make sure their self inflicted arm or leg scars are the highlight of the picture. This one >>1810944 doesn't seem to even have scars on the other leg, they have specifically chosen to Disney them and in doing so somehow managed to make them the same level of eye catching as the monster dildo

No. 1811105

>>1811103
*Display, not Disney. Fucking bitch mobile God dammit

No. 1811106

>>1811090
it sucks so much that she couldn't just be a butch lesbian, she breaks way more barriers the way she was as a female chris farley. it's so regressive that she has to be "nonbinary" to be on snl, it's the same as pretending to be straight because women can't act this way, let alone act this way on TV

No. 1811107

>>1811090
it’s giving religious propaganda

No. 1811127

>>1811106
And the way they just have to proudly announce her as nonbinary while making a spectacle of it is so patronizing and icky.

No. 1811152

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>>1811090
I'm not American but I thought SNL was one of the most popular political satire shows in America so hearing them saying trans rights is kinda weird considering the phrase's origin. "Gay rights" became a meme amongst gay people online to make fun of influencial people who acknowledged gay people bit didn't do anything to fight homophobia and just wanted to cash in on the gay movement to make more money. Later it evolved to a tounge-in-cheek way to address straight celebrities who did something vaguely homoerotic or addressing straight authors who accidentally made their characters gay-coded. It was never really a serious phrase. It started out as a lightweighted joke to mock pinkwashing but then it just became an overall funny phrase to say.I miss that time people would say "he said gay rights" rather than "he is behaving fruity"
The meme came from picrel which is a fake quote.
The trans community co-opted the phrase and used it in a similar joking matter. Then they started to pay streamers to say it. It then became widespread. It's surreal to hear it on one of the most recognised political TV show since it started as an internet meme I think there is a point to be made that one of the trans community's main slogans originated from tumblr fandom bloggers

No. 1811154

>>1808603
Still better than what asian guys have packing (I’m being racist)(racist)

No. 1811248

>>1810944
All the childrens toys in the background lol

No. 1811352

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>>1811248
>These Bluey plushies

I'll scream if I see another "I think Bluey is a FTM because she's blue like her dad and she doesn't act girly!" No, she's a girl and a tomboy, let her be a girl!

picrel me

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>>1811248
>These Bluey plushies

I'll scream if I see another "I think Bluey is a FTM because she's blue like her dad and she doesn't act girly!" No, she's a girl and a tomboy, let her be a girl!

picrel me

No. 1811359

>>1810944
Just me or is it pointing at an odd angle for a dildo

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No. 1811362

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>>1811359
That's because is not a human dildo in the first place.

I hate myself for recognize picrel

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>>1810944
>MLP rd and bluey paraphernalia
>zoo strapon with blue balls

No. 1811598

>>1811362
Is this even legal. Aren’t there laws that prohibit the sale of sex toys in the shape of animal genitals.

No. 1811623

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Again with "omg genocide!!!" If you have time to whine about it on tiktok and write little messages on underwear, what genocide are you going through? Social media dilutes important words and makes them into jokes like gaslight, this is nothing new sure, but pretending to be uwu oppressed annoys me particularly.

No. 1811634

>>1810944
Why do so many mlp fans end up like this person ?. Honestly, I usually don't care if someone has a interest in something that might be considered childish because some children media can be interesting but when that interest is mlp , I tend to assume that they're going to be revealed as being uniquely freaky. Not always but most of the time.

No. 1811653

>>1810944
I know who this is, omg. Their art is super fucked up. She has art of one of the girls from DDLC fucking a knife, lots of lolicon homestuck art and just a bunch of weird fucked up shit. Her art style could be nice if she didn’t use it for this shit.
I saw this on main page and was shocked she made her way over to this thread just now. She’s kinda a pet cow

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No. 1811785

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>>1811623
They have no idea how a real Genocide even works. Not only they would have forbidden to comment in Social Media, but there would be many stuff they wouldn't do stuff like buying groceries, walk alone or even wear glasses like Pol Pot forbid.

>>1811598
IAMAL but most of these dildos are made with a 3D model and imagination, no casting the real genital of the animal, so unless you can prove a real animal was used, it's legal.

No. 1811838

>>1811785
Are they using the holocaust memorial day website's stages of genocide as a step by step instruction manual? They didn't allow some troon kids to go outside, that toootally fits stage 8 of the genocide stage list I found online! Let's see what else we can twist to fit the other stages! Muh discriminayshun, so gender!

No. 1811920

>>1811838
They totally are. You can see in that tweet people posting the same stages over and over.

No. 1811953

>>1811785
>>1811838
I wonder what most normie Jewish people think of all this, also the amount of aidens who convert to their religion and are very loud about it?

No. 1811966

>>1811653
oh jesus lol is that clownstongue???? i am not longer surprised at all

No. 1811973

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He/him I’ll never understand girls like this

No. 1811974

>>1811785
>refused to let their parents in…
Tbh, most of those kids hate their parents anyways, so it’s not like the kids would’ve probably wanted to see their parents.

No. 1811975

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Bunni is shaped so weird. But remember he’s a man

No. 1811988

>>1811953
Most of them would tell them to stfu and not use the pain their relatives lived on, but Aidens are quite good with counter with "But Jewish people kill Palestinians now", which proves, once again, they have no idea about world history in general.

No. 1811991

>>1811975
This poor woman needs help, anyone who gets this fat just needs serious help.

No. 1812001

>>1811975
Same body as Shayna

No. 1812018

>>1811634
Because those autists always end up being attracted to the character and draw retarded zoo porn, a nice pipeline for all the other degen shit, including troonism.

No. 1812019

>>1811634
Because those autists always end up being attracted to the character and draw retarded zoo porn, a nice pipeline for all the other degen shit, including troonism.

No. 1812020

>>1811634
Because those autists always end up being attracted to the character and draw retarded zoo porn, a nice pipeline for all the other degen shit, including troonism.

No. 1812023

>>1811634
Because those autists always end up being attracted to the character and draw retarded zoo porn, a nice pipeline for all the other degen shit, including troonism.

No. 1812103

>>1811966
Yuuuppp. They have some serious issues (like all TIFs really) and I would muster a tiny bit of empathy if they didn’t draw such nasty shit.

No. 1812130

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I don't think they understand not everything in life for normal people is about gender identity this and gender identity that

No. 1812132

>>1811973
She hates herself for being fat. Simple as.

One could go even further and speculate that she might be fat because she was sexually abused (some people get fat as a defense mechanism - they think being fat will make their abusers not attracted to them), and she doesn’t want to be a woman because she thinks woman = weak victim, on top of hating her body for being fat. Many such cases.

No. 1812147

>>1811966
i didn't know who this was and made the mistake of looking them up. usually i can handle weird porn art but that shit was so vile. what is it about TIFs that make them get porn brainrot and draw the most disgusting NSFW art. EVERY artist i see that troons ends up doing this

No. 1812153

Are those drawn on freckle? Kek

No. 1812155

>>1812130
what broccoli head over there is too stupid to get is that terfs/radfem are ALSO against botox bbl breast implants and all that shit kek

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This is beyond depressing.

No. 1812162

>>1812147
Kek that's because they troon out because of porn addiction in the first place. But I will never understand how women can get porn addiction, porn is vomit-inducing and normal women don't watch it. But obviously this girl was never normal, probably was abused, and/or has a mental illness.

No. 1812164

>>1812130
I don’t give a fuck about what surgeries or procedures people want. I only care about them thinking it actually makes them the opposite sex. I shouldn’t have to accept sharing private spaces with a man who thinks he’s female just because he got breast implants.

No. 1812167

>>1812158
Kek she thought she would be a hot giga chad the way ugly incels think they will be sexy anime girls with five hot young lesbian girlfriends in a polycule if they troon out.
Tifs don't understand that scrotes have a strict hierarchy where you always have to fight to not be considered a "beta" otherwise they will eat you alive, it's like with apes. When you're an ugly becky the worst thing you can possibly get from other women is "you can't sit with us" in high school and most women literally don't care.
Also, there is something sad about tifs who are not straight. Kek I remember that one lesbian tif who was literally female-to-incel. When a tif is straight she can easily find a boyfriend because men will fuck anything, but sadly for lesbian tifs, women have standards, especially SSA ones, so dating another tif is the only option.

No. 1812171

>>1812158
Damn, almost as if taking hormones and going through operations doesn't solve the underlying depression and insecurity that made her feel like she had to "become a man" in the first place. They think their shy insecure (and autistic most likely) self will transform into this hot confident person, but it doesn't happen. She's still herself, but now her female body is fucked up and people leave her alone.

No. 1812172

>>1812167
There's an article occasionally reposted in these threads, by a lesbian TIF who assumed
Testosterone would turn into a handsome, strong young man that women would swoon over, instead it gave her adult acne, mood swings, pubic like facial hair and she even started balding.

No. 1812187

sage for no contribution
But there was a TIF in our apartment complex who would go around sexually assaulting any woman within arms reach. Me with a grin on my face knowing they got sent to a male prison.

No. 1812199

>>1812187
Likely was a result of the T, so many ex-TIFs talk about how testosterone fucks up their restraint and libido.

No. 1812202

>>1812171
It's because other tras/gendies literally tell them this. All their problems are because they're trans, all of their misery comes from dysphoria, everything will get better once you transition and start to pass! It's a fucking glue trap for the traumatized and insecure.

No. 1812219

>>1812130
so women with bigger boobs are more women than those with smaller boobs? do these sexist retards ever think what they are saying

No. 1812228

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>>1806822
>makes herself highly visible at all times completely unprompted
>"I don't want to be visible poor me boohoo"
When will troons shut the fuck up forever?

No. 1812265

>>1812172
That's why they should be aware of the risks of testosterone and hormone blockers in general, but who are we kidding, we see it every time and still is "yeah, he had bad luck, but not me, I'll become in the uke for my seme".

No. 1812278

>>1812130
so you agree? gender surgeries are cosmetic?

No. 1812301

>>1812278
surely they're not arguing otherwise. what else would they be?

No. 1812304

>>1812301
Life saving of course, haven't you heard?

No. 1812318

>>1812158
I was gonna write a snarky reply but honestly this is depressing as fuck. I feel like if I was born 10 years earlier my autistic ass could've easily ended up in a situation like hers. The hollow "Does anyone know what I can do?" at the end is the cherry on top. Echo chamber answers only and any serious suggestions like lose weight, work on your self-image without gendering yourself, talk honestly with someone about the roots of your "dysphoria" etc will be immediately labelled as bigotry.

No. 1812336

>>1811000
Ayrt, sorry to hear that you can relate but at least someone knows what I'm talking about.

No. 1812345

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I don’t know where to start with this person

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No. 1812349

>>1812130
Actually it's true. If you are against transgender cosmetic surgery than you should be against it as a whole. All of the plastic surgery women get is to affirm their femininity on a basic level, no matter how you try to justify it. Otherwise women wouldn't get it at all. Rhinoplasty, breast augmentation, whatever else.

No. 1812357

>>1812345
Start with the teeth, what happened

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No. 1812374

>me with a grin on my face knowing they got sent to a male prison
kek I really doubt that. uh, at least I hope she didn't

No. 1812383

>>1812349
it's not that black and white

No. 1812392

>>1812349
Nta but this argument sucks. I’m not as much of a woman because I have straight hips and a big nose? Yeah right, fuck off.

No. 1812398

>>1812349
I'm also against virtually all plastic surgery (excluding reconstructive or correcting some fuck up of nature) but framing plastic surgery in terms of gender affirmation is idiotic. People mostly do it to conform to their aesthetic preferences. Those are different for each sex, but have little to nothing do with gender or this while tranny circus.

No. 1812410

>>1812398
DA tbf a lot of the current trans circus is about aesthetic preferences, at least in these kind of social media circles imo. You can see it with all the glorification of top surgery scars, people making fanart of characters with the scars, obsession with looking like a twink or femboy etc. I think a lot of people's gender feels are about aesthetics/fashion and validation

No. 1812416

>>1812410
Absolutely, but it's always framed in terms of gender affirmation and how life saving it is, since trannies and honesty are like water and oil.

No. 1812439

>>1812392
Actually yeah it is. Nobody said you aren't retard. BBLs are feminizing procedures, women who get them do so because they somehow think it enhances their beauty. Female rhinoplasty is performed because it is to make the face more feminine and harmonious.

>>1812383
Yes it is. Rules for thee but not for me. If you want to be angry at transgender cosmetic surgeries, then be angry at the industry as a whole. Don't dabble in hypocrisy. Go full radfem if you want to be full radfem.

No. 1812512

>>1812162
They got into tumblr art and deviantart porn made by women for women. Plus the only thing they've been reading since high school mandated books is smutty fanfiction

No. 1812524

>>1812158
what? no, that is beyond hilarious.

No. 1812561

>>1812439
>Female rhinoplasty is performed because it is to make the face more feminine and harmonious.
You sound like you've been around troons for too long. Plenty of people get rhinoplasty to fix a birth defect or accident that made it different, such as a crooked nose from it being broken. You have this hyperfocus on that being "feminizing" simply because it's performed on a female, but it's just what troons want you to think. They want you to see every little thing as fem/masc so they can keep roleplaying gender and sex. I understand why you think it, but it's not healthy to have this mindset and most normal people do not see these things as masculine or feminine. Troons don't understand that, they end up thinking everything is about gender and they assume everyone else thinks like that too. Mtfs are fixated on sex and to them that means all real women are fixated on it too. Ftms are usually instead fixated on gender in itself and assume all men are too.

There's also massive difference in doing something cosmetic because you want to look better, and in doing it to pretend it's a different body part than what you actually have to affirm literal delusions. One is like repainting your house, and the other is painting a 2D house on a flat wall pretending that means it's a real house now.

No. 1812620

>>1812561

>There's also massive difference in doing something cosmetic because you want to look better, and in doing it to pretend it's a different body part than what you actually have to affirm literal delusions.


Both are bad. Your features are genetical and you can't erase them. My mom had rhinoplasty but the fact that neither her parents nor children have the same nose as her is a dead giveaway.
Beside shit like reconstructive surgery or breast reduction most plastic surgeries are doing for self hatred purposes by people who can't accept their are aging or even worse, by people who hate their own ethnicity.(sage your shit)

No. 1812654

>>1812561
Rhinoplasty is %99 done for cosmetic purposes regardless of gender. Noses aren't bumpy because they're broken, they're bumpy because it's in your genes for you to have a big asymmetric bumpy nose. Most people have asymmetric noses and bumps/imperfections to an extent and it's not a defect unless you fixate on it

No. 1812655

>>1812654
Rhinoplasty is %99 done for cosmetic purposes
or you know…to help breathing…

No. 1812658

>>1812620
In the end it’s stupid to even think about equating tranny surgeries with other plastic surgeries like breast reductions or rhinoplasties.
Do they both end up being a solution offered to women with low self esteem and complexes about their own bodies? Yes
Are they invasive as fuck? Yes
But seriously, I think that grabbing a tiny bit of bone or cartilage to fix a broken nose, isn’t as fucked up as taking skin off your arm or leg to create a new appendage that just doesn’t belong there.
So what if you mom and dad don’t have your same nose? At least your mom isn't walking around with a flesh tube attached to her belly and asking you to call her Elliah and your dad isn’t dilating 24/7 locked in a room and wearing a wig that looks like your mom’s old hairstyle.

No. 1812660

>>1812345
To me it looks like she's legit retarded and in that case I wouldn't post her itt. It raises the question of who's caring for her though.

No. 1812661

>>1812349
No.
"I want bigger boobs, a BBL, etc" is "I want to be a less 'ugly' woman", not "I know I was born a man but I want to be a woman, this increases my Gender Points, I feel so female everyone". Having nasolabial folds or other signs of aging and hating them isn't gender dysphoria, neither is having a small ass or a wide nose because either sex can have them.
Ugly men who want to be women are not comparable to actual women who want to look more sexually attractive, and the same is also true if the sexes are flipped. I'm critical of plastic surgery, but it's not "gender affirmation".
Now, if you want to argue that trannies actually go for surgery to be more fuckable, and they try to redefine the idea of being sexually attractive as "gender euphoria" because of their gender obsession and/or in a bid to try and convince the state to pay for their procedures, you might have a point. Buying into their euphemism is retarded, though.

No. 1812662

>>1812655
NTA but yes, that would account for the 1% you retard

No. 1812668

>>1812620
>Both are bad. My mom had rhinoplasty
Well that explains why you are obsessed with it. Vanity is one thing, absolute delusion and denial of reality is a whole different thing. They are not the same.
>>1812658
>In the end it’s stupid to even think about equating tranny surgeries with other plastic surgeries like breast reductions or rhinoplasties.
Amen nona.

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kek she’s so pissed bc she knows its true. that struck a nerve. most moids don’t give a fuck about your “neopronouns”, not even the liberal ones especially if you’re still having sex with him oops

No. 1812686

>>1812661
troon logic is that bigger boobs and ass = more female and that’s what makes implants and bbl “gender affirming”. They also associate femaleness and hairlessness which just shows how deeply rooted their misogyny is. She couldn’t have just been a woman who doesn’t shave, her desire to stay hairy meant she was male actually!

No. 1812695

>>1809708
I don't get it, according to trans terms, "transmasc" doesn't mean trans man, but like some flavor of enby.and according to tras, they fit into any sexuality. a guy would still be straight finding her attractive regardless of label kek

No. 1812869

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This shit is so retarded, when will it end?

No. 1812895

>>1812655
Rhinoplasty for help breathing is only in extreme cases. And still then, the surgeon try to keep your nose like it is the 99,9% as possible, no "oh let's so some plastic surgery while we are it" unless you pay a bit more. So no.

No. 1812897

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No. 1812898

>>1812869
How are these people STILL wearing that stupid sweatshirt? I thought by now it would be embarrassing even for them. The last one I saw was circa 2016.

No. 1812909

>>1812895
It's more like 15% for functional reasons. Also there's some intertwining of people who get both for cosmetic and functional rhinoplasty.

No. 1812910

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>r/WitchesVsPatriarchy is a woman-centered sub with a witchy twist
>Republican politicians are especially known for suddenly being cool with the gayz as soon as their children come out
>Plenty of old people in conservative areas are able to get the picture.
>They love YOU not the package you came in.
Nah, they just hate women.

No. 1812919

>>1812301
Life saving medical car. They say they don't have to have it (to pass), but they'll die if they don't get it. Typical troon contradictions.

No. 1812924

>>1812898
If there are people wearing the infamous ahegao sweatshirt, are you surprised she's wearing that sweatshirt?

No. 1812929

>>1812620
>genetical
Dubya-chan

No. 1812936

>>1810944
God, this feels almost like parody.
>Pony shit everywhere
>Homestuck fanart
>Animal cock dildo
>Old-ass grandma furniture
>Filthy mirror
>Bluey plush (?)
>Thighs covered in self-harm scars
>Combination of saggy tits and stomach hair
Everything about this just screams "autistic woman who got groomed by 4chan degenerates."

No. 1812968

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No. 1812998

>>1812968
I usually have to pretend that those descriptions for blind people are autogenerated in order to preserve my sanity. I can’t imagine sitting down and writing such self fellating shit.

No. 1813012

>>1812968
>uploads a selfie
description (im very charitable to my blind and retarded and disabled followers): nonbinary femme with long ebony black raven hair with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me i look like amy lee (AN: if you dont know who she is get da hell out of here!).

No. 1813033

>>1813012
this is the funniest fucking comment i’ve seen in ages

No. 1813048

>>1812968
Oh hey it's the girl from the OP pic kek

No. 1813061

>>1813012
Ebony…..

No. 1813096

>>1806822
Oh man I used to read this chick's comic blog in high school. Back then it was all about how she hated being fat/how she wanted to be one of the thin hot girls. I guess she trooned because testosterone supposedly makes it easier to lose weight and you get to cut off a large amount of fat by having a mastectomy

No. 1813111

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Checking the "fakeboi" tags on tumblr was a mistake.(namefagging)

No. 1813127

>>1813111
Fucking disgusting. Should be locked up in a mental institution with no internet access .

No. 1813131

>>1812675
why do TIFs literally never understand that males do not give a single fuck about morality or "playing nice"? they spend their time attempting to be males without any understanding of them.

No. 1813140

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cp in snow & m, scroll with caution

No. 1813146

>>1802618
TIMS gonna let this fly over their head. Feminine guys in both 2d and 3d are gonna look like… a tomboy or a butch lesbian at the very best if they are allowed to pass as female. TIMs autism made them misinterpret that they would easily pass as le average becky/stacy even.

No. 1813150

>>1812348
>>1812345
Proof TIFhood or off-topic

No. 1813152

>>1812661
Women who want to look like ugly men is not the same thing as actual males who want to improve their sexual attractiveness too.

No. 1813176

>>1813152
>Women who want to look like ugly men
Found the incel dogwhistle

No. 1813179

>>1769285
Tho from #30, but this is somewhat based
hear me out, being the eldest daughter (women only, duh) is more likely to be a troon if the daughter has not matured or has autism and think in black and whites, like eldest daughters in a family full of girls are more likely to be raised as the opposite sex.

No. 1813196

>>1812869
woman putting up the tranny and the asexual flag up in her room. Nonas we have a self hatred double whammy here

No. 1813213

i had inkling feeling about her the moment the narrator didn't use any pronouns at the introduction. that and she tried her best to deepen her voice. i dont get why gender dysphoria was the reason she had a hard time perfecting a sound for the hardest scene she had to do, she didn't explicitly say anything correlating the two and somehow she came out of the closet to feel good about herself. people are trying to correct each other on the comment section but she's just an enby that uses she/they.

No. 1813231

>>1813196
that's the nonbinary flag, not asexual flag

No. 1813270

>>1813213
kek what, is this not a tim? i saw this in my recommended a few days ago and instantly clocked this person as a tranny, also the title emphasizing "woman" instead of something like "foley artist" which struck me as odd. most tims love to attach the word woman to themselves so i thought this was a tim. i checked their twitter and they call themselves a trans woman. its like you can instantly clock tranny shit because of how much they emphasize the gender (like in the name of this video) when its totally unrelated.

No. 1813275

>>1812869
>nonbinary trans boi
It never stops being irritating to me that words have no meaning to these people.

No. 1813285

>>1813213
I saw this recommended too and immediately thought it was a TIM, is it not?

No. 1813298

>>1812869
That godforsaken sweatshirt has done more damage to female weebs than any other rhetoric on tumblr.

No. 1813341

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No. 1813372

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>>1813213
This is a MtF.

No. 1813374

>>1813341
Even disregarding the rape fantasy, thinking that

>a forever ugly, flabby stomach


is the worst thing that could happen to someone is exactly the kind of egregious misogyny I'd expect from a tranny.

No. 1813375

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No. 1813393

>>1813374
That was written by a woman I think.

No. 1813413

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So do you love or hate your body?

No. 1813415

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Not a (fat) girl
Bunnii was complaining about a fat toddler photo in a women’s group she was part of. But remember she’s not a girl

No. 1813474

>>1813213
Also got this in my recommended and both myself and husband clocked him instantly bc of the voice. Sad bc I was stoked to see a video about a female foley artist.

No. 1813706




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