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No. 1897269

This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).

"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming trannies or larping biological males through the screen (classic move). Fakebois usually style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.

These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.

**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.** Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it.

Notable FtM-related subreddits:

Old threads by order of recency:

No. 1897292


Sad thing is that don't only love to claim Mulan is a FTM icon (when she never wanted to be a man in first place), they looooove to use Li Shang's interest in Mulan's "male" mode as "he is bisexual, hello??? Trans ally!!!", except Li Shang was about to kill Mulan and not because she wasn't a man, but because she is a woman in disguise, ignoring how Ancient China was quite misogynist.

Xiran is also guilty on that one, saying the "lolol emperors or higher rank loved men more than women" except they loved teens and women were "only for having kids", like in Ancient Greece.

I swear these "queer icons" love to ignore certain stuff in ancient civilization for their own gain.

No. 1897325

pretty much every patriarchal society has given men loopholes to fuck other men/rape children. greece, middle east, rome, china, japan, etc. only when the puritans took over in the west did it become frowned upon. and now we’ve got retards acting like men dressing up little boys to act out their sickest fantasies was actually progressive.

No. 1897391

kek great threadpic, the ones where there's just some random tif are kinda boring tbh.

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No. 1897460

I never got how he was meant to be bisexual, I even told a girl in school that and she basically said it's because I'm uneducated. And of course these people ignore history, given that if they didn't they'd see the examples of epic gayness was pederasty and the examples of epic transmen were women trying to escape oppression.

No. 1897461

I hate when TIFs “Not All Men” by using themselves as an example. It drives me up the fucking wall. They are actually proving my point but I can never point that out and no one will ever listen because it’s transphobic and “trans men are real men.” One example is often times when male and female sexualities are being discussed, and the differences between the male and female gaze are brought up, some TIF will inevitably butt in and talk about how she’s an example a “man” into all the female gazey things.

No. 1897464

he is supposedly attracted to mulan while he still believed she was a male

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Much to unpack here.

No. 1897503

He didn't even come off that way in the Disney film. In the film, it looked like Shang clocked her when she called him a great captain in her obvious female voice, but he stayed in denial. Like when the boys in Ouran Highschool Host Club clock Haruhi one by one in the first episode, but don't say anything out loud. But clocking a woman when she's disguised as a man is a nightmare thought to TiFs, so they call Shang bisexual and pretend Mulan passed kek

No. 1897533

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Just, why?

No. 1897535

she doesn't look male, she just looks like she just got a breast reduction and going for a more gender neutral style

No. 1897541

This is kind of crazy tbh, you would think that a girl that looks (not that she probably is but at least seems) healthy and confident, wouldn’t fall into the tranny cult.

No. 1897554

Honestly, I don't understand why some nonas are so surprised when women and girls who perform femininity attempt transition. It can be really hard putting in all that effort trying to look more like an inhuman doll and seeing other women look the same way or even "better" than you, but never seeing how much time, money, or stress they spend on it. It makes it seem like other women are effortlessly like that, and you're the only one who has to worry about "being ugly," which pretty much translates to "being a living human being who has things like body hair, skin texture, and the ability to feel pain or discomfort." Because of this, girls like this often get the sense that they've only been "performing" being a woman/girl in a way other girls aren't, and not even doing a very good job of it. They don't realize that it's just as forced and inauthentic when other people look like that, and that femininity is in of itself unnatural and borderline unattainable for everyone.
Personally, I don't find it much more surprising when this sort attempts transition than I do when girls who deliberately try to be completely "masculine" attempt transition, because both groups are blatantly trying to escape being the person they actually are through strict adherence to one gender role or the other, likely hoping it will protect them from at least some of the abuse they suffer as a result of misogyny.

No. 1897556

i miss when kids going through puberty would just experiment with different fashion styles and bitch and whine about hating their parents. they still experiment with drugs and social issues, but now with hormones changing their biology. the general public will see and gawk at the horrific effects in 5 to 10 years and its really going to be depressing.

No. 1897557

I don't get how they can call that loophole "progressive" without looking the sad reality. Are they THAT desesperate to show "LgBt PEoplE ExisTED FRoM CenTUriES???"?.

MTE Is like "you want to be recognized as man but only in the good way? I have some bad news".


I always thought Shang was happier to find an amazing fighter like Ping for his army than thinking "damn right, I'm bi now!", so that's why he was angry at the fact Ping was Mulan, because the skilled fighter that beat his arse most of the time was a woman! How weak he was to be beaten by a woman??.
So I never saw the "bi icon".

No. 1897567

i think that's true. another factor is that very attractive gender-conforming women are sexually harassed at an incredibly high rate and are often viewed as less competent because they're attractive.

No. 1897570

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>TIF poetry

No. 1897571

And its sad that'd usually only happen in a fantasy, but instead of questioning that, these nlogs would rather go "well they won't hurt ME anyway cos I'm so special."

If they really wanna stick to the mulan is trans thing, why don't they talk about how when she was "outed" they called her a treacherous snake and left her on a mountain to die. Such allies!

And tbh if that's all it was I'd support her, but sadly the gender cult wants to rot the brain of even a slightly gnc leaning woman.

No. 1897574

I thought Shang was into 'Ping' when I was a kid, not a fujo or anything, it was just how my kidbrain interpreted it. Love how tifs will pick up literally any message before "gosh misogyny really sucks huh"

>girls in Afghanistan forced to risk their lives disguised as boys so their families can survive crippling poverty where women can't even leave their homes to work


No. 1897595

I think I'll start actually taking them up on their trigger warnings and using them as an excuse to get out of having to experience their nonsense. Do you think she would have been offended if anyone had stood up and left?

No. 1897607

It would've been so much easier for her to cut her hair, stop wearing makeup, stop shaving, and start wearing sensible clothes. Would she see herself as ugly then? Is existing as a woman who doesn't perform femininity only seen as "beautiful" if she's calling herself a man? Instead of existing honestly in her skin, she tries to push herself into another box. She hasn't changed at all, just switched the mask she's hiding behind.

No. 1897620

It was better when the edgy kids just posted their ramblings on MySpace and had silly alliterative names like "Tiffany Terror" instead of trooning out and being bold enough to say this shit in public with a straight face.

No. 1897625

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Literally lilly-singh-player-her-dad-in-a-youtube-sketch quality facial hair

No. 1897626


YES. Teens haven't changed much, but the fkn internet and society think normal puberty issues need permanent treatment it's so crazy. We were the same weirdo kids, just now they've been looking at porn since grade 4 and get their reproductive shit rocked by medical professionals.

No. 1897639

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A buffet of some milky TiF twitter threads for your perusal. The replies, RTs, and QRTs are full to bursting. This system of everyone engaging with each others posts is obviously the main thing keeping the delusion alive, cause if they're not like/respond/RTing each other they're announcing that their OF is now discounted. Happy hunting and gathering, nonas.


>rt so others can participate!!

>transmasc sex workers! quote retweet with a few of your favorite photos/videos!


>queer swer / nsfw thread !! You know what to do


>TBOYS!!! quote this with a slutty pic of yourself


>Rounds for the queer baddies out there


No. 1897672

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Nonna I love you but also hate you for exposing me to these Twitter threads…I've not even made it through the first one yet and it's a goldmine

No. 1897686

>loli gender
No word can describe my feeling.

No. 1897687

Pics look like they REEK, i genuinely recoiled

No. 1897690

>loli gender
sounds like more of a TIM thing but extremely self-infantilising TIFs who grew up on the web could identify as that too
nvm i think it's a TIM, a TIF would actually try to diet to become the "loli" because women do have self-awareness, even the ones that troon out. they still have high ED rates

No. 1897729

No. 1897733

I can't believe the amount of girls publicly posting nudes for something as stupid as this. In five years they'll regret this because random creepy internet moids will have these pictures saved and ready to harass or blackmail them with, but they won't listen to anyone who tells them that because they've been duped into thinking this is somehow empowering/liberating. This reminds me of when MRAs would bait libfems into posting sexy selfies by saying all feminists are ugly, but now the MRAs and libfems are on the same side, so the method of coercion has changed from negging to implying posting titties is a form of activism.

No. 1897761

>the general public will see and gawk at the horrific effects in 5 to 10 years and its really going to be depressing.
No it won't kek. I've been reading these predictions for 8 years now and people just don't care. Even when if's their own children or siblings.

No. 1897762

Yeah that's definitely a TIM and his profile confirms it. He deserves to be in the other thread.

No. 1897766

NLOB in here looks less invested for the pride season and more a techie incel

No. 1897773

He's even got the dreaded tube-moobs TIMs get sometimes kek

No. 1897775

How do these ugly weirdos have so much self-confidence to expose their bodies online

No. 1897793

Autism and male socialization.

No. 1897797

>scraggly beards
>questionable style choices
>gottmik wannabe
>all of them got their tits out just for a crumb of validation because nowhere else on earth would they ever find "trans appreciation"
>ugly tim with moobs joins in KEK

No. 1897811

Lmao they are all girls except for the "loli gender" retard

No. 1897813

Don't waste your breath, I've been called a doomer in these threads for saying that 2050 is the earliest I can see modern trans shit truly start to die out. I get that no one sane wants to see the damage it will do if it does last that long, but I can't see it going away nearly as suddenly as a lot of Nonas clearly hope it will. There's too much money and power behind it, since it's currently the hell-baby of several of the most profitable industries in the modern world (makeup, fast fashion, mass media, cosmetic surgery, social media, and porn, at the very least).

No. 1897815

>loli gender
>pic looks vaguely like the amazing atheist

no no no no no

No. 1897820

The only thing that makes Mulan a "FTM Icon" is because she was a woman that pretended to be a man to suit he needs. Also have they not seen the end? Mulan goes back to being a woman happily and chooses not to live the life she led as a male.

No. 1897958

Since when has the real storyline mattered to these types? Before they trooned out, the majority of these girls were screeching at anyone on tumblr who didn't think the two white men from the flavour of the week tv show were having a tumultuous gay love affair.

No. 1897975

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>I've been called a doomer in these threads for saying that 2050 is the earliest I can see modern trans shit truly start to die out.
Say what you want, but "trans care" providers are already pulling back as more and more detrans people are speaking out and suing them for their gross malpractice and medical abuse. Washington University Transgender Center CHOSE to not provide this care for minors anymore even though they could, if they genuinely thought it helped troons and that detrans people are less than 1%, why would they be worried?

No. 1897995

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they're "reclaiming" gendie now kek

No. 1897997

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Yet another self-harmer:

No. 1898003

they can be bullied into making anything a flag kek

No. 1898020

I was listening to an episode RedFem and they actually discussed this, there probably won't be a single defining moment where the tide turns, it will just be gradual die down as some other social contagion (whether its some fashion based identity and or poltical one) will take its place, we'll probably go back to some level "tru-trans" Idea regarding trans-identity.

No. 1898027

I wish there was like a huge compilation of all of the flags that has ever existed, a collage of only the random ass flags they all have created, I would post it anywhere there are members of the cult and make all of them all identify the flags as a permanently online test.
Also, I swear I’ve seen that color scheme before, did they use all of the color schemes that have ever existed already? I hate how I just know that these flags were surely made by amateur graphic designers.

No. 1898039

I don't care what adults do to their bodies, but we will see trans ""care"" for minors disappear in the next 10 years. People will wake up, because all people exposed to trans bs do wake up. There's just this biological instinct that kicks in. Detrans people are definitely helping, and I hope they continue to speak out against the evil medical industry. Unfortunately, I don't see the concept of trans ever disappearing from human society. It was opening Pandora's box.

No. 1898042

every damn time

No. 1898081

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>"I'm not even mad lol call me whatever it doesn't matter because I totally don't care at all lmao"
Do you have any other problem-solving skills you learned from Sally Face, Tiffany?

No. 1898108

god, those scars around the womb area. I feel so bad for these girls.

No. 1898144

AYRT. I do think the legal and medical landscape will readjust as seen in >>1897975 but the "general public" genuinely dgaf. The people that gawk in horror today are the same that will gawk in horror 30 years from now. Journalists, lawyers, pediatricians who lean gender critical, or a bunch of nonnies like us. But, say, the accountant that does the TIF's taxes, or the hairstylist that does her hair, they don't care about her botched chest. It's a question of how sensitive you are to this kind of shit, and most people aren't at all. Some people say that troonery will be one day seen on par with lobotomies. But troonery was invented before lobomoties and is still around kek I see grandparents watch as their grandkids are transed before puberty. Some people genuinely believe that some little boys are better off as "girls" (and viceversa), and some people simply don't care what happens to other people. I mean, I don't care either, I just find troons annoying

No. 1898268

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Ah, the crème de la crème.

No. 1898272

meant to reply to >>1897639

No. 1898278

Unsurprisingly, they're all obese. It's funny how the two who bothered getting prosthetic dongs are still posing and angling their shots like female nudes, though. What actual man touches his dick like that?

No. 1898281

Is that a tea cozy on clown makeup's packer? wtf am I looking at?

No. 1898327


Gawww I'd rather look at their botched surgery pics than this mess. Wtf is the scrotum thing with a white growth? Who tf looks at this kind of stuff recreationally?

No. 1898361

Beyond parody.

No. 1898483

I think they put the pseudo balls where the labia are so maybe its that sticking out, idk I don't wanna zoom in

No. 1898490

yes, she is straight up spreading her (now imaginary) labia, just like in porn or nudes.

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reminded me of this gem.

No. 1898543

>Tacky facial piercings
>Edgy guillotine necklace
>Stupid Sangwoo kinnie/clown hair
>Too weak to not wear makeup at all, but also too inept wth makeup to put on anything other than that shitty eyeliner
>Attempted Billy Badass LARP despite being blatantly hypersensitive and emotionally weak
>Female-typical typing style and use of emojis
>Demanding to be taken seriously on TikTok
I can't even roast someone this embarrassing, there's no challenge to it.

No. 1898594

>or you will not refer to me….. (girly emojis) AT ALL (girly emojis)
Let's be real, king, not many people refer to you anyway, which is why you've fucked up your hair, took a stapler to your face and trooned out.

No. 1898595

Them not having the balls to not wear heavy make-up/eyeliner gets me every time, they want to be perceived as men and swear that they have a male's brain but are still just insecure women who are too afraid to not be stereotypically feminine. They want to be men but refuse to let go of their female socialization.

No. 1898599

NTA but if they lived their lives as GNC women they'd realise how easy troons have it. In most western countries you have to tiptoe around them and be nice. Some women have had police turn up on their doorstep for simply misgendering someone online. Women are afforded no such legal protection, and GNC women are despised by all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons.

No. 1898627

And their faces too, girl aren't you worrying if an employer/your school/your family/someone you know irl sees this?

No. 1898705

They know their employers and schools can’t really do anything because Lambda Legal will be on their employers like flies on shit representing the troon in a wrongful termination lawsuit

No. 1898708

By now, everytime I think I meet a short haired woman I automatically assume she's a gendie and not a lesbian. I know that lesbian/bi women don't have a standard look, that's even a moid thing (thinking that short haired women are all lesbian) but anytime I meet a butchy woman it's always a gendie, even worse she wanted to be called "he." The tomboy to trans pipeline is so fucking common is so sad, they truly ignited the stereotype. I hate them.

No. 1898731

I have short hair and I am a lesbian the times I've been called a tif or nonbinary is unreal its more harder for butchs too. its gotten so tiresome to date real women too since most that I meet are either non binary(which I've dated some although the gendie shit was too much) or moids. The best thing you can do is to filter them out and find the few normal ones. They bark its more liberating but its gotten harder being a woman who like Women without declaring your self either male or non binary

No. 1898736

Yeah. I’m a lesbian and i grew out my hair so people at my university would stop asking my pronouns and gender. Lmao. Might be lame idk but I wasn’t attached enough to my short hair to want to put up with that bullshit every day

No. 1898745

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This is so utterly pathetic that its not even funny, like you can tell this one is a fujotroon.

No. 1898750

Why can't she just be a girl breaking gender roles. Sad.

No. 1898757

So if you're by your own definition "fem brained" then where is the belief that you're male coming from? It's not your fem-brain kek. They've gotten so far off track with what the original trans movement claimed to be "My whole life I felt like the opposite gender with my whole soul and I just want to live my truth!!!" that they don't realize how ridiculously dumb they sound trying to describe why their totes trans guyz.

No. 1898758

this is sad because in the end real women suffer. i really wish these women would accept who they are instead of claiming to be a guy or this nonbinary shit. they so insecure about being a woman pretend to be something else, or worse fuck up their bodies with hormones.

No. 1898763

>people would see me and say "he's a guy who's breaking gender roles"
>since i'm a pre-t trans guy i'm just a girl in women's clothing

The consequence of moids being praised for drag when women are seen as boring for doing the exact same thing. She doesn't have the critical thinking skills or exposure to feminism to even figure out why she feels this way. Why she thinks she has to give up her personality and go on T to feel respected for the girly things she likes.

No. 1898808

In the place I live being trans isn't well known and there are many women with short hair or men with long hair. All the TIFs I've seen I can count in one finger and they all had unusually dyed hair and/or piercings.

This is sad. Imagine if this was rephrased as "I'm ugly, I need to change my appearance so other people will accept me" or something similar. I bet people would have a different reaction to the post then. Just be yourself, who cares if some random person sees you as a woman? Giving up your personality is depressing

No. 1898829

>I'm a non conforming guy, I want people to see me and think wow what a special little boy breaking gender norms that have been broken 1000000s of times before.
>No men in existence have the sticker phone case and funky glasses, I have to burn them and I hate it wahhhh
Girl which is it

No. 1898853

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This woman sent full-body female nudes to a (probably gay) man expecting that they'd actually see her clit as a penis and be impressed (also the entire comment thread is just lesbians saying they'd want to suck her clit and don't know what that guy was thinking). Literally what is the difference between her and any other woman who had a double masectomy? She doesn't even have a treasure trail worth of hair on her body and her hips and thighs look nice

No. 1898854

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the "dick pic"

No. 1898857

It looks kind of like a caterpillar.

No. 1898863

Ugh seeing a shaved pussy literally ruins my day. And “t-dicks” make me cringe so hard just imagining that exposed tissue rubbing against underwear/clothing constantly. I bet it feels disgusting to eat out / around.

No. 1898865

It's going to slow down because it's social contagion and now that old people are trooning out it's not as cool as it used to be. Cool liberal politicians are quietly cutting back the support they show for the gendies, workplaces are slowly finding ways around troon discrimination, medical transitioning for minors is now frowned upon. I agree that it's been around for years and will be around for many more, but the untouchableness that trannies have now is already starting to fade. Society as a whole won't be brought to tears by a 20 year old TIF with the face and voice of a geriatric frog, but society will move on from this phase and the permanently disfigured troons will fade into the background. Younger zoomers see gender as a fashion so there's already a world of difference between a child going through a they/them phase following a haircut and a disfigured post-op millennial who trooned out in 2016 sobbing about how being a genderless male lesbian is hard.
Imo what would REALLY stop this shit is getting rid of Tiktok and Instagram and cutting out any similar shit before it gets popular. Girls are made to feel that being a man is the only alternative to not wanting to be a blow up doll, kids grow up getting bombarded with softcore porn and think it's reality instead of fishing for views and likes, and they spend all their time online navel gazing so trooning out is the closest they come to having an actual personality. But that won't happen, so the best we can hope for is that trooning out becomes too cringe to be an option.

No. 1898866

Instead of looking anything like a dick, it looks like a clit with an infection making it swollen and uncomfortable, not appetising in the fucking slightest and I'm a munch

No. 1898871

The way she holds the clit is like bursting a zit and I'm more disturbed than I expected myself to be. I can only imagine how much more a gay man is disturbed by seeing that.

No. 1898884

There are still people who believe the earth is flat, despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary. There are still people who believe the earth is 6,000 years old, and that God created it in 6 days. There will always be some people who believe in stupid shit, including transgenderism.

The only difference is that now the Catholic Church doesn’t have the political power to put people like Galileo in jail for stating scientific facts, and for the most part Christians have moved on from demanding that Creationism be taught in public schools (they’ve moved on to protesting drag queen story hours kek).

As long as biological differences between men and women remain (so for the rest of eternity) there will always be some mentally ill people who want to be, or attempt to become, the opposite sex. But the transgender movement will lose steam and political support, especially as more detransitioners sue their doctors and insurance agencies. It’s sad that the protests of women and autistic/gay people hurt by this cult won’t be enough to convince anyone, but unfortunately money is the only thing that people listen to.

No. 1898895

No. 1898935

>TRAs promote transition as people "living as their true selves"
>Trooning out almost always involves people suppressing some aspect of their innate self to "pass"

No. 1898936

Kek, makes me wonder if there are transtrender and AGP flags, too.

No. 1898941

Setting aside the cringe joke about how her dog is trans, she looks pretty good for 40. Get rid of the pubestache and she looks like a lesbian in her late 20s.

No. 1898953

Definitely has the 'why would you send this to anyone' quality of disgusting unsolicited nude down pat, good for her kek

No. 1899063

Sage but a meta question
Do specific birth order affect TIFfing out? Like do TIFs tend to be the eldest or middle/youngest children in their family?

No. 1899067

From all the tifs i met (zoomer in a big city), all of them have been the youngest, with a big age gap between them and the older sibling. But I think all birth orders TIF out. I can imagine the oldest sisters TIFing out, because of the pressures of being 'the second mother'

No. 1899077

Purely unscientific and anecdotal speculation on my part, but I would suspect it's slightly more common for the youngest to troon out. Often the older the mother is the more likely the child is to have some kind of mental illness, and the youngest child will have been born when the mother was at her oldest birthing age. The youngest also may not have the same sense of caretaking a person gets from having younger siblings as they're always "the baby" getting taken care of instead. So they're more likely to be spoiled and entitled. As the youngest female you also get to watch your older sisters get treated worse for growing up as female, or brothers treated better for growing up as male so it's easier to get attached to escaping or becoming the other sex I think.

No. 1899195

>i want to look like a man in drag
why? i genuinely don't understand this. drag is stupid, ugly and sexist. i don't understand how drag of all things caused so much brain damage in young women.

No. 1899226

It's simple. Ugly man in makeup and a dress = endless yasss queen praise stunning and brave. Woman in makeup and a dress = boring het bimbo slut tradthot

No. 1899230

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probably super late to this but i can't believe the actress of abby from santa clarita diet got top surgery because she's a they/them. i just started yellowjackets and was excited to see her again, then i made the mistake of googling her. i'm guessing she falls into the selfhating lesbian category since she says she's gay.

No. 1899279

Her nipple looks hideous and in the completely wrong spot. Fuck the butcher doctors.

No. 1899299

I briefly mistook this for Noelle Stevenson.

No. 1899311

Its called being a faghag(likely fujoshis)

No. 1899325

I totally get the deep desire to be able to go around shirtless, and especially the ability to wear something like that without needing some "modesty" underneath to cover our breasts, but I don't think moids are going to stop sexualising her chest just because she's flattened herself down so she's not any safer doing this now

No. 1899367


This is an insult to lesbians everywhere

No. 1899401

Do tifs basically give themselves menopause cos of the hormones and reproductive system removal? I don't see any of them talk about it they just keep harping on about it all being wither totally reversible or totally safe and "passing"

No. 1899415

think of it this way. they want to be perceived as feminine men because that's still against the status quo but being a gender conforming woman is expected, thus dull and uninteresting

No. 1899451

Lol who drew OP pic?

No. 1899453

trans joy

No. 1899534

iirc they do go into it once their hysterectomy/atrophy takes place and also get it quite early in life if they were ever on blockers (i have it in my head that they get it by their 20s if they took blockers as kids which nobody tells them and lets them think their future is that of an adult male).
Actually for what it's worth, it seems things like ablation and all other uterus fuckery they've started as "cures" for bad periods can spontaneously put you through menopause. Docs will claim otherwise but I know enough older women gaslight about this (then tested and proven right about being in menopause decades too young) to know it happens. I wouldn't be surprised if the regular hormones trigger it too (before atrophy) but the tifs don't realise they're in it cause they want their periods gone and are usually so mentally ill they can't see the side effects of menopause vs other shit nor are capable of recognizing the general state of their body to realise either.

No. 1899621

she kinda looks like Pedro Pascal(sage)

No. 1899650

Doctors be like "sure, I'll totally botch and mutilate a young woman with anxiety if she paid me during a manic episode, why not? It's not like I'll pay some consequences when the fad fades out!"

No. 1899660

Sincerely hope all these "I'm living my best life, fuck anyone trying to stop me harming myself!" videos haunt her when she realises what a fucking idiot she's been. She speedran trooning out in, what, a year? Then went private thinking "surely the nice quacks who take my trust fund money would never lie to me about my totes legit GID diagnosis". I'd feel bad for her, but honestly she's so annoying I just can't, kek.

No. 1899664

I think 2050 is pushing it a bit but I agree with you about industry involvement. It's not going to die that easily due to sunk cost fallacy. Businesses and public figures put a lot of money into their cool inclusive larp and if tomorrow everyone suddenly figured out the horrors behind transgenderism, there is not many ways they could bounce back after building their good image on their "explicit support towards the performing of dangerous experiments on children".

But all in all this is a meme war among meme wars and we can only wait so much time until a strong ideological opponent rises, and with it more businesses and public figures willing to support them as well. The problem is, it's probably the anti-feminist, trad movement that will remain the main opposition to trans shit, while the name "feminism" will be permanently stained by troon nonsense and no one will want to touch it with a ten foot pole for the next decade.

The gnc fancy man fetish is so obvious here kek.

No. 1899692

I'm convinced we'll have one of those "Okay, we all know who funked up here, let's acknowledge and move on without consequences" situations. My granny likens it to when Ireland got independence and the British were still here. Not race bait just a comparison, these things do happen in history unfortunately

No. 1899693

Fucked not funked obviously

No. 1899749

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Girls who write I LOVE BOYS IM SO GAY GAY GAY GAY coping so hard that theyre completely straight

No. 1899758

I always laugh when I see fakebois act surprised that they're seen as girls.

They look like girls/women with short hair and baggy clothes and They can't even act like actual boys , they talk about bugs and yaoi and while some men like bugs and some gay men like yaoi ,the way they talk about these things or basically about anything, makes it obvious that they haven't actually spent time around actual guys.

No. 1899771

their life would be so much easier if they just called themselves tomboys. but its not special enough i guess

No. 1899772

the tif I know basically is gonna go through menopause if she stops t but she also has awful vaginal athrophy (I think it's called that) and she has 247 pelvic pains due to it, so the clit is bigger and overtly sensitive and she has something she told me felt like period pains on steroids (kek) all the time + balding.

No. 1899775

*wtf did I write here, I mean she is basically going through it right now, sorry nonas

No. 1899779

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These two don't even look they they've " transitioned ". Don't even look like twinks kek

No. 1899780

Yeah, it's like menopause if you get your ovaries removed, but any medical transition is going to be hard on the body and induce some symptoms of menopause which may or may not be reversible. I only got a hysterectomy and kept my ovaries, and it took like half a year for them to start working again after I stopped taking T. My vagina was in so much pain at that point that I didn't think it would ever work right again. I had a ton of other awful side effects too. Transition was the dumbest decision of my life. I'm just glad to be relatively healthy again after almost a year of recovery.

No. 1899826

kek these women are so off looking, even if you didn't know they were trans you'd immediately know something is up with them

No. 1899856

They look off so they've probably struggled with being treated like crap for being ugly and weird, and that's why they think they're not women. You just solved it.

No. 1899863

What episode was it?(sage)

No. 1899866

Holy shit, that's scary. Congrats on getting away from the gender cult. I'm glad you're doing better now, I can't imagine how awful it must have felt to go through that shit. How did you end up peaking?

No. 1899878

The thought of entering menopause so young by surgery specifically (so it happens suddenly and not over time) terrifies me because I have witnessed my mother go through that (obviously she had to have it for health reasons) and it's absolutely miserable. I feel like Tifs, much like the average person, do not comprehend just how much menopause that happens like that can fuck you up mentally and physically far beyond "no period and you feel hot sometimes". The depression and obsessive thoughts/paranoia were so hard for my mother, I could literally see her sanity take a nose-dive within a couple of months. I also had some thoughts about trooning when I was younger but after witnessing that shit I would never think about removing my healthy uterus/ovaries or inducing menopause with shitty artificial hormones.

No. 1899879

So basically menopause is the least of her concerns since she's already in constant pain from her vagina rotting (that's what atrophy is) and her unnaturally swollen and sensitive clitoris? Yikes. Is all of that stuff permanent?

No. 1899883

I mean…They DO look like they have pronouns in their bio so there's that. Also I don't know who she is but the girl on the left is kinda cute actually, definitely would've made my high school self go nuts.

It's great you made it out. I don't really know how detransition works but I wish you luck with the rest (?) of your recovery.

No. 1899891

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converting from one mental illness to another

No. 1899895

POV: you mistook a faghag for a same-sex attracted woman at a gay bar and she's about to say a slur

No. 1899905

god why do they all use the same ugly picrew

No. 1899910

>tif with muslim male name, it was the name of prophet mo's relative or something
>"islamophobic diasporoid"

Hmm. I mean I hated my Islamic upbringing too and when Muslims and their white liberal defenders call me islamophobe I do not care, however I wonder if her being a tif is tied to that upbringing because of how women are genuinely seen as second class sex objects in that shitty ass religion

Kept having to repost because I'm stupid

No. 1899915

At this point, what even is being trans?
Is someone who is undergoing medical transition? No, because there isn't only medical transition. Someone with gender dysphoria? No because you don't need dysphoria. Someone with body dysphoria? No because you can also love your body. Someone who feels like the other gender? No because trans isn't a feeling. Someone who wears wacky fashion/breaks gender roles? No because you can wear anything!!

Then what the fuck is being trans??

No. 1899928

I was never quite in the gender cult since I saw things from a transmedicalist perspective, but now I think they're just different types of delusion. The thing that really peaked me was looking up the effects of exogenous testosterone on non-trans men and women. It was completely different from how the effects of T are reported in a trans context, just really stark with clear warnings about the health consequences. I saw there had been millions of lawsuits from men who took T and women who took it at a much lower dose than I did. I thought I had done really thorough research before committing to medical transition, but I made the incredibly stupid mistake of only looking at the data for trans people, which seriously downplays the negative long-term side effects. It's a medical movement run on hardcore denial and wishful thinking. The more you try to change the appearance of your sex, the greater the cost to your health.
Thank you for the kind wishes! I think I've physically recovered for the most part but I'd still like to get bloodwork and a physical check-up when I have health insurance again, just to make sure everything is ok. Coming out as a detransitioner was painful and changing my documents back took a long time. Now I really just need to work on building back my social relationships slowly and awkwardly.

No. 1899954

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>Then what the fuck is being trans??

No. 1899960

welcome to peaking kek
nothing they ever said ever made sense and the cognitive dissonance needed to buy into anything trans is immensely big. to believe you are something you are physically not (or indeed to believe you are NOT what you physically are) has always just been mental illness and a delusion. nothing more, nothing less.

No. 1899961

Good luck nona! If possible sue the shit out the medical practitioners who did this to you.

No. 1899965

Oh no, nonny, I'm already peaked thanks to my faggot tim ex back in 2017 but thank you for that, it was a rhetorical question and also what I would ask to them. I wish I could copy and paste it to my social media plats but I'm crypto, I'm just waiting for the Big Fading and the massive wave of regret.

No. 1899995

I was an adult and signed a consent form with a list of the potential side effects (even though I now think it was biased and misleading), so I don't think I would have any real case against them. I just want to move on at this point, but I'm glad some of the women who were transitioned as minors are suing them.

No. 1899996

When I first heard of dysphoria being the "cause" of trooning I thought ok they're delusional but the explanation IS that they're delusion, but now they think dysphoria is a dirty word bc they don't want to think they're delusional, which ironically has opened the floodgates for people to be even more insane?

No. 1900005

Nona, with all due respect
you sound like a moid, hope you don't speak about normal menopause like that. But yeah, I have no fucking idea she thinks will happen because I've gone through gynecological cancer and seem to have been in less pain and do you think tifs go to the gyno? hell no and even if they did, what the fuck are they supposed to do when they keep stabbing their lifeboats wondering why it's sinking

No. 1900021

Now that you mention it, there’s been an increase of FTM in exmuslim spaces/forums. Kinda understandable as leftists still hate exmuslims after all these years but love anything gender

No. 1900039

Sad thing is, they aren't even ugly, in my opinion. The seem to have pleasant faces, and I can easily imagine both them looking good with better styling. I think it's more diplomatic to say that when women fail to meet absurd beauty standards, they feel like the must be better off as fake men. Pre-transition, TiFs are usually just kind of mousy, plain, or frumpy, but not full-on ugly the way they often are after trooning out. Big noses, smile lines, thin lips, and so on will never be as ugly as self-hatred and misogyny.

No. 1900052

>Sad thing is, they aren't even ugly, in my opinion.
Not just your opinion it's obvious that blond girl is really pretty even if weirdo becky nonnies here try to act otherwise kek

No. 1900057

I think they're distracted by the greasy frosted tips and goofy screengrab timing expression. She has a nice enough face.

No. 1900058

This is how it's going to happen. No worries Irish nona, we have a better analogy right here in the States, which is the Iraq War. At this point everyone agrees that Mistakes Were Made, and yet somehow none of the politicians and journalists responsible were ever held accountable, and the only people (besides Iraqis) who have to live with the consequences are vets in small towns who were left paraplegic or PTSD, and nobody wants to think about them because it's too depressing.

No. 1900067

Ayrt, that's a perfect analogy thank you, I'll be stealing it

No. 1900068

She was describing atrophy as what it is and even put it in parentheses, remain vigilant nonnie but this one is okay

No. 1900086

>the exaggerated look of surprise on her face

kek don't worry hetty betty, you'll never be an icky homosexual

No. 1900088

>using that toothpaste flag

Of course.

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I was curious if the movies/actors, I’m big into horror but tbh just haven’t kept up with recent movies. especially now that it’s so tranny apologist. Left actress is Morgan Davies in Evil Dead Rise and IIRC she was discussed last thread because she played a character in the live action One Piece. Right actress is Zoe Terakes in Talk to Me and is 23 and already has top surgery.

Also this from her Wikipedia
>In November 2020, Terakes signed a petition criticizing the lack of LGBTQ representation in the Australian production of Hedwig and the Angry Inch and expressing "disappointment" over the casting of actor Hugh Sheridan in the lead role of Hedwig, whom many believe to be a transgender character. They, along with David Campbell, Michaela Banas, and others, shared an open letter on Instagram addressed to the Sydney Festival, explaining why trans representation is vital when telling the story of a trans character. The Australian producers, Showtune Productions, cancelled the show. Sheridan later came out as non-binary in an Instagram post on 26 June 2021, and also bisexual, speaking of the hurt and serious mental health issues that arose from the cyber bullying around this incident.
Lmao that they complain about the actor not being trans and then he just comes out as a gendie.

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No. 1900150

hopefully she removes her uterus next so she doesn't reproduce lmao

No. 1900152

>top sugery tomorrow so I'll wear this top that brings attention to my boobs today

No. 1900165

I completely thought Zoe's character in Talk to Me was just a butch lesbian. Same with Morgan's character in Evil Dead. It's hilarious to think that they're fooling anyone into believing otherwise. But it's also sad as fuck that we could've had awesome butch representation instead of this stupid nonsense.

>Hedwig and the Angry Inch

IIRC in Hedwig and the Angry Inch, the titular character is pretty much forced to undergo sexual reassignment surgery because his male partner can't risk being seen as gay? I thought a big plot of the musical was his discomfort with being stuck in this now mutilated body. Or maybe they changed it now that being trans is hip and cool?

No. 1900173

>top sugery tomorrow so I'll wear this top that brings attention to my boobs today
There's a few different reasons tifs have their breasts amputated, this one seems to be the exhibitionist kind. She (and other tifs) aren't as bold as the tims who post their euphoria boners poking through spinny skirts, because tifs are female so they have a bit more reservation and are slightly less direct about it. Making people focus on her breasts is exciting to her, so she'll draw attention to it by binding, talking about binding, talking about top surgery, showing off her breasts before surgery like in the pic, showing off her mutilated chest afterwards. She's one of those tifs that are salivating at the though of going around and showing off topless and having people not be able to call her out for it being inappropriate, she's hoping she'll get comments on her scars so she can loudly proclaim she's a proud flavor of trans boy-man-enby-whatever because she loves that she can get positive attention from her chest. If it's not a full on fetish, it at least borders on it but of course these girls have convinced themselves it's not a fetish and is just "trans euphoria".

No. 1900174

>"the dialogue around trans people is so fucked at the moment"
Well she's right about that, just wrong about what part is fucked up.
The painting didn't capture her dog ear armpits kek

No. 1900178

>they talk about bugs and yaoi and while some men like bugs
I know a male huge bug enthusiast and still the only times he talks about it is to do some little scientific infodump sperging about a specific bug we're seeing like "X bug has this unique feature where it decapitates prey" while the tifs I see are like "lil' buggo guy uwu look at him go, he's just a lil' guy just like me, i love himb uwuwuwu spin ur web bro"

No. 1900179

>There's a few different reasons tifs have their breasts amputated
could you describe the other reasons please?

No. 1900181

2050 is way too far away lol name a recent fashion trend that has lasted for 40 years (2010s is when the trans trend really got going). I think it's harder for Americans/Canadaians to see becuase you guys are SO fucked up and it looks beyond hope but as a euroanon I'm already seeing massive pullbacks in my super woke pro-trans country and I think eventually you guys will follow. You can already see companies changing things up to protect themselves from the upcoming backlash.

If for no other reason it will end because trans is no longer "cool", it's the cringe thing the older generation did while a new trend has entered the market. The trans label itself and the accepted presentation of it has already changed A LOT in just 10 years. It started out without enbys even existing, and a tif was someone who wanted to present as male and that was it.
Now an enby tif can go by he/him, take testosterone just enough to have a frog voice and weak stubble and have her boobs out in dresses and a full face of makeup and she's still seen as a fully valid trans person.

How this thing will really end is silently, with the people who did the harm sneaking away and pretending it never happened. Leaving the hurt mentally ill people they ruined to fend for themselves without help.

No. 1900188

Breast implants, butt augmentation, and lip fillers have existed since the 60s, and gained mass popularity in the 80s. Corsets were commonly worn for hundreds of years. Foot binding also lasted several hundreds of years. Eunuchs were commonly created for hundreds of years. Trends that involve long-term consequences like bodily harm tend to last longer than ones that can be easily forgotten with no losses. You can't exactly leave your scars in the closet or donate them to a thrift store, so people double down so that they don't have to confront the harsh reality of the harm done.
Of course, I can't say you're wrong. I'm just not hopeful, since I know no one with any power will take the responsibility or make the kind of firm stance that would be required to truly kill transgenderism. We may just have to worry about reprises in a similar way that people previously infected with chicken pox have to worry about shingles.

No. 1900192

Reasons a tif gets her breasts amputated and mutilated (a tif can be multiple at a time):


see >>1900173
>Escape from trauma/sexism(/homophobia)
She incorrectly thinks the trauma/sexism wouldn't have happened to her if she wasn't a girl so she has to remove the thing that "gave her trauma" (typical female behavior to blame herself rather than the person who caused the trauma).
>Autism/sensory issues
Breasts are sensitive and for people with sensory issues they may be lead to incorrectly think the higher level of discomfort in that area is because they're trans and not just a side effect of autistic traits
>Trender Light/Non-conventional body
One who does it just because their friends did it, at most they identify as non-binary and go by they/them but make no other effort to transition until their more intense friends do it. They may also have "ugly" breasts (aka not ideal perky perfect porny plastic breasts) and feel inferior about it and this is a way to get rid of the worry that their breasts aren't perfect, even though they don't really have gender dysphoria.
>True Trender
Does it while admitting they just like how it looks, they've typically got a lot of tattoos, multiple piercings all over, and is generally into body mods. They're fully on the trans train and assertive about it but clearly treats it as a trend but can't see it because the ideology encourages it
>Body dysmorphia("gender dysphoria")/OCD
Like the trender light/non-conventional body tif she feels her breasts are inferior/wrong but it's more intense and all consuming for her. It's clearly an unhealthy hyperfixation that consumes her thoughts every day. She's highly likely to either have or have had an eating disorder or other body dysmorphic disorders. For some the trans identity is a cover up to be able to further engage with those other disorders (like getting testosterone to be able to lose more body fat to fuel their eating disorder)
>Trans medicalist
They think if they get surgery to look like a man that means they've either literally or spiritually changed sex - and they ARE a man. Fuelld by mental illness of course
>Child being groomed
The "trans kid" who was either groomed by a parent or trans people on the internet from an early age and had the surgery because "that's what you do when you're trans" and "if I don't, I will end up killing myself"

Let me know if I missed anything

No. 1900196

>Breast implants, butt augmentation, and lip fillers have existed since the 60s
That's not the kind of trend I meant, I meant trends like the label of "trans" itself. You don't see the 60-70s hippies walking around everywhere, or more recent goths or emos. No one (well, maybe a handful of weirdos…) is identifying as a big-butter or thicc-lipper and making it their personality and identity the same way they make being trans "not a phase, mom".
But they're still a noteworthy thing to consider, because while butt fillers may have "been around" since the 60s they've not always been trendy. When I was a kid having a big butt was shameful and everyone wanted a small flat butt. Any curves were just you being fat, ugly and undesirable. Then the Kardashian butt trend started and everyone wanted a massive butt all of a sudden, and having a flat butt was unsexy and ugly. Now it's starting to go back a bit and skinny is becoming the trend again. So again that hasn't actually been a trend for that long, it just comes and goes in waves.

No. 1900198

I think you're both right, because now trans is a fashion and not whatever it was back when it took off. BBLs are out of fashion, so you don't see many people getting them now, but there are plenty of women walking around with wonky BBLs and nobody bats an eye. Lip and face fillers make your lips go droopy and they migrate, and now there are women walking around with sausage lips hanging down to their chins and uneven cheeks, and again nobody bats an eye. It's going to be the same for women with frog voices and mastectomy scars, they're going to be seen as fashion victims at best and sad mentally ill weirdos at worst. Body modification has become so commonplace that the many disfigurements troons give themselves will end up fading into the background.

No. 1900211

kek she looks lesbian like Bob Odenkirk. also wow grats on the first transgender dog, queen!

No. 1900215

ive done this in uni a few times. One time, we had a guest lecture done by a tim telling us about his research into hetero people of same sex romance in prison (I'm a criminology student). TBH it sounded interesting on paper but it was really an autistic man rambling about how sexuality is fluid and little to do with prison environment. His voice was so grating and the lecture was two hours long when he was like "TW: RAPE" I was like.. this is my time to book it lmao. The prof was nice and checked in on me, and i was like "yeah.. its too heavy for me today" she was like aw okay take care, she was so sweet but why she chose him to guest was wild.

No. 1900224

>incorrectly thinks trauma/sexism wouldn't have happened if she wasn't a girl
That is correct though.

No. 1900249

NTA but I think they meant troons think the sexism and trauma will stop because testosterone and surgery makes them a Real Boy thus the predator won't come after them any more. Reminds me of that horrible rape case where the FTM kept telling her attacker she was male, thinking it would make the assault stop.

No. 1900315

Damn. That’s a grim story.

No. 1900318

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Gee, I wonder why?

No. 1900334

which case was this?

No. 1900336

trans is more like a spiritual belief and cult rather than simply a fashion trend, and cults even as they lose power in the mainstream often persist for far longer. look at Scientology, they are getting smaller and not gaining many new members, but still has a strong grip on current members. Trans is different because of the body modification aspects, but I believe even if child transition is outlawed and it loses popularity people will keep producing and acquiring hormones illegally.

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No. 1900348

shitty that it happened to her but also makes me kinda wanna a-log that she thinks that women are for raping.

No. 1900361

Did this woman really think being trans was gonna make her immune from getting sexually assaulted by men?
There are even straight men who get raped by other men.(sage)

No. 1900372

I'd wager that a rapist doesn't care about sex and more about whose vulnerable and they could overpower without much effort.

No. 1900381

it's so sad that she believed her own larp so much that it put her in a dangerous situation. any sane woman wouldn't dare be alone with a man she doesn't know.

No. 1900397

>>1900342shes doesn’t even look like she’s on T. I’m sure it was easy for him to tell she was a woman

No. 1900411

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Some Trans-trenderism from 22 years ago.

No. 1900416

Always makes me kek to internet radfems who think praxis is having a radblr blog talk about Bechdel as this wonderful, feminist figure. Like c'mon now, just admit you only heard of her because of the "Bechdel test" and take the L.

No. 1900423

15 years is a joke. He will only do it again when you let him out. At least lock him up until he's too old and frail to act again. This is vile.

No. 1900427

>you will not hurt me, i am a MAN, MALE
tragic but familiar line of thinking

No. 1900428

Nobody thinks that about her, she’s not a feminist figure or even a theorist, she’s a butch lesbian comic book artist. Gen X’ers like her and buck have always had masculinity and internalized misogyny issues. The comic pictured is even alluding to the strife lesbians had about self-hating homosexuals transitioning even back then. Can’t even mock ftms without revealing your lack of critical literacy, smug ignorance of gay women’s history and culture, and absolute disdain for this generation of women’s attempts at continuing to create something that is meaningful and represents their experiences in the modern world.

No. 1900445

I'm fairly certain I've seen a radblr user cover everything wrong with Bechdel, from her frequent tranny promoting, to the way she basically dismissed her father's predatory actions and cheating on her mother with "but he was probably a closeted fag, which makes it more defensible" in Fun Home. No one actually cared, though. They just went right back to sharing panels from her shitty comics.
Why should women be expected to give regard to a woman who criticized Michfest for being "too much woman energy" and not allowing in TIMs? Bechdel is a retard who is more likely to destroy female-only spaces than promote them.

No. 1900459

AYRT, I'm a lesbian and in my experience, both online and off, radfems and rad leaning women can be a lil hero worshippy of Bechdel. Don't get me wrong, when I was a baby butch, I thought it was cool to see someone like me be visible. But she's a navel-gazing libfem, not some important documenter of dykedom, kek. If the tide is turning online like >>1900445 said, then good, it's about damn time. How anyone can defend her after she's caped for her pedo dad and made her views on female spaces so clear is beyond me. That is smug ignorance of gay women's history and culture, not calling a shitty cartoonist cringe.

No. 1900472

Kek i've literally only seen pretentious 40 year old trutrans tifs ever even speak about Fun Home

No. 1900475

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As I already posted in the bad comics thread, the real issue with her and her type of feminists is that they are academics, their feminism is based and dictated by whatever pretentious theories is popular

No. 1900480

do you know the reason why men have a history and a canon and women don't is that men don't tear down men in the past who were wrong, there is an understanding in academia and in the pursuit of truth that each brick is built upon the other and a little progress is made each decade. women throw each other away for very minor wrongs, young women to old women especially. but i know i'm not talking to actual women.

No. 1900481

I was recommended it by a he/him "lesbian" younger than I am. It was one of the most insufferable reading experiences of my life, despite being a fairly short comic.

No. 1900485

Academia schmacademia. I'm sick of you pretentious fucks. >>1900475 hit the nail on the head.
>but i know i'm not talking to actual women
Incredible. You get called a moid for literally anything these days, kek.

No. 1900486

Oh, yeah, because male "culture" has done such good things for the world. Even if you only look at its effects on men (the ones it's designed to benefit), it makes them reckless freaks who swing rapidly between narcissism and inferiority complexes. Why should we want to replicate their style of "culture"?

No. 1900488

>The dictionary became erotic
I remember the first time I read that line. I thought, "That certainly makes her work make more sense."

No. 1900492

>Fun Home
It's a shitty comic by a pick-me libfem who can't draw OR write. It was never part of the canon except for college students pretending to be lesbians

No. 1900500

"I got a surgery and it was okay! :)"
Sure, sure.
Let's wait a year, shall we?

No. 1900532

None of those terms existed back then, please learn how to construct some arguments

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Her subscribers are really creaming themselves about it, picrel. Her voice is also starting to sound froggy.

>let's wait a year shall we

They don't know they have to wait since they all think its a one-and-done kinda deal, which shows in how they talk about it and how they don't know or just don't keep up with caring for their new wounds, and of course bully anyone into silence if they talk about the bad parts even if its a tif saying it.

No. 1900556

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>going on a spooky film binge because its that time of year
>in one of them, there's a tomboy character in an all girls school, of course she's a tif
This is becoming a straight up character trope at this point

No. 1900571

1 starkly contrasts all the others… so counterproductive

No. 1900575

Bait, or genuine retardation?

No. 1900580

If this is about the movie I think it is , the animated movie with the black girl with green hair , than I'm also disappointed that this character is a fakeboi. Could've just kept her a tomboy but no , can't have that for some reason which is a shame since I don't entirely hate the art style of the movie.

No. 1900594

I think the trans thing is never going away, it’s just going to matter less and less. People are going to start identifying with their sex rather than gender. “Transitioning” will really just be in the name.

No. 1900611

>fairly short comic.
it's over 200 pages??

No. 1900612

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>Sam zelaya
Never heard of her but she looks very young, and already a tif? She has old videos of herself on YouTube too but its unclear if she was a tif then

No. 1900617

She almost looks like a female Elliot Rodger

No. 1900620

I was talking in terms of books, not one-off strips.

No. 1900630

Kek get her ass
You think queer studies are real don't you

No. 1900658

No she doesn’t but that’s what /tttt/ would have said to crack his egg kek

No. 1900677

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Based Hori, the stereotypical tif bone structure if u look closely.

No. 1900687

>name a recent fashion trend that has lasted for 40 years
Nta but it's just as much a lifestyle and subculture as it is a fashion choice, so I'd probably compare it to the hippie movement instead. Being a hippie was "cool" in the late sixties and early seventies, and it's gradually become less common over subsequent decades without completely vanishing. Hippies still exist, following Phish around the country in their campers, but they don't dominate the popular consciousness like they did in the sixties and are basically rare to the point of irrelevance these days. I believe that's the trajectory of the trans fad; some of them will continue to adhere to this retarded identity for the rest of their lives because they like the community, have no sense of self, sunk-cost, etc. But most will fall away, and look back on their tranny phases with embarrassment and nostalgia. They are the Zillennial equivalent to hippies who grew up and voted for Reagan.

No. 1900688

smells like anal seepage in here

No. 1900691

I feel like I bang this drum a lot, but Bechdel deserves to be the object of ridicule for the cavalier way Fun Home regards the way her father sexually abused his teenage students. If a straight woman wrote a book about how ~misunderstood~ her asshole dad was and she found naked pictures of female teenage students among his things, she'd be expected to fucking condemn him as the predator he is and raked over the coals if she didn't. But Bechdel frames the whole thing around how discovering his kiddie porn stash meant that she had a ~speshul gay connection~ with her pederast father, totally refusing to address how utterly fucked his behavior was. I don't care that he was gay, or that it was a "different time," soliciting nudes from (and probably molesting) your teenage students is never excusable. I'm glad that sicko killed himself. You just know that if he ended up in court of possession of child porn or statutory rape, his retarded daughter would be the first to defend him.

No. 1900692

Nta but not everyone who disagrees with you is a scrote. You're blaming women for the erasure of their own intellectual history when you know damn well that isn't the case. Women aren't to blame for our own underrepresentation, bootstraps-chan.

No. 1900694

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I mean, the characters and events from the comic are amalgamations of various people she knew at certain points in her life. with the exception of Moe, who is simply a self-insert. That being said, there are certain events that are both mundane yet expected, which probably did happen to people she knew. For example, there's a bisexual lesbian who marrys a balding, bearded, fat progressive man. Additionally, there are two separate lesbian couples who had hoped for daughters but ended up having sons (as getting pregnant through sperm donation often leads to). Furthermore, one of these lesbian couples' sons later comes out as transgender(which has some unfortunate implications). The comic also explores how these characters react to real-world events happening around them like 9/11, but in a pretentious academic way.

No. 1900713

i don't understand how you can post on lolcow of all websites while thinking that every single thing any woman has ever done must be lauded and upheld in order to establish a Female Cultural Canon. sometimes women are just bad and pretentious writers with little of value to say. what good does it do to pretend that's not the case?

No. 1900730

sage for a bit of blogpost but also some reflection
Lately a friend of mine socially trooned out as a theythem and started to bind, I tried to express my concern with shit like "are you sure you want to give yourself back pain, rib pain and breathing problems just for aesthetics?" and she went "Well nonna you used to bind too!"
I didn't ever bind my body, I wore compression stuff because my piece of shit ex was telling me I was obese, so with compression stuff I knew exactly how much space I took. Yes, I was young and stupid, that's not the point, but the she went
"You were traumatized, but I'm doing this for myself! I'm happy!"
And that's when I realized that either tifs are doing it to cather weird looks and weird attention, like the Ezra bitch who sure as he will still wear feminine dresses despite being disfigured or they're totally nullyfying themselves. When I compressed my body, I wanted to be small and didn't want nobody to notice me (I was thinking shit like that if my bf thought that I was fat, then everyone was thinking that) and they're doing the same exact thing but they deluded themselves into being happy. I wasn't happy and they won't be either.
I still have some empathy, in fact I know that the world isn't kind to women, but I kinda relate to them in some way and I hate that the world is telling them to dissociate themselves from their body because boobs and being female bad. They don't want to be men, they don't want to look like their dads, they don't want to look like women, period. I know this isn't something new but I can see where they are coming from and I can see the psych damage and the difference from treatment. The world tells women they are fat but no surgeon will cut off all fat (except for money hungry butchers), the world tells women that they're women and women are bad but mutilation is tax-paid and encourage. I want this bubble to burst.

No. 1900733

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I seriously thought this was an edit of Ariana Grande's old face on some random teenage boy kek

No. 1900740

there's a "peak trans vent" thread over at 2X nona where you can blogpost all you want

No. 1900741

It should be illegal to perform it when the patient comes in with short blue hair looking like a troll doll

No. 1900742

>men don't tear down men in the past who were wrong
yeah we fucking know, men protect men even when they know they're wrong and then they throw women under the bus. not news
>there is an understanding in academia
Academia IS what is largely pushing trans ideology right now though

No. 1900744

>That is correct though.
The point is more that they think it's their own fault something happened to them, that they "failed" by being a girl when in reality it happened because the abuser was a piece of shit and chose to do that to them. Plenty of little boys get abused too, often for being gay which we can see in hsts detrans men who tell a similar story, and they in turn troon out thinking it wouldn't have happened to them if they were a girl.

No. 1900753

Go king, mutilate that healthy body! Also the fact she's posting this like it's for people who are scared of surgery and not just narc fuel is hilarious. That whole "things you're afraid of" series is just a way to vlog and get extra asspats for it.

Her fans are so sycophantic. It's genuinely freaky how parasocial they are and how much they lie to her because she's a troon. She'd be a few weeks on testosterone and the comments would be like "omg your face shape is so masculine now!" and "wow I thought you were cis" as if heaven and earth moved to give her a Chad like bone structure, kek.

Agree with you 100%.

No. 1900760

seriously. there was a thirteen year old in the comment section complaining about how her mother wouldn’t buy her a binder. fucking bleak. I wonder how her fans will react when she begins her detransition.

No. 1900764

Jesus Christ. I've seen similar comments myself, and it's so scary to see how these freaks are influencing young girls, and their echo chamber comment section reinforce this ideology by effectively love bombing them. Telling them to persevere, how dare their parents be concerned for their child's health, etc etc etc. It's like she grooms her audience and then her audience groom each other. I think if Ezra detransitions, she'll do it on the sly. She seems addicted to the attention, so I think she'll just quietly stop using testosterone and then use ye olde "trans men come in many different forms" excuse. She already dresses like a woman - even her "masc" outfits, kek - so it's not like she's fully socially transitioned in that respect.

No. 1900774

I can see Ezra detransing and then playing it like "it's okay to experiment with your identity!" but don't you dare call it social contagion, poor self image, confusion, grooming, mental illness and misoginy. I can see her still wearing slutty lace suit with scars and going "I can wear anything despite my gender!" but we will never hear her saying the word "regret".
If not this, I can see her spiral down into depression because she swallowed the genderpill and stop posting, pretending that nothing ever happened, to also avoid responsibility on her teen, botched and brainwashed audience.

No. 1900779

there is no term on earth I hate more than “bisexual lesbian”, it doesn’t exist and now men think I will fuck them because bi people and the truly deluded keep trying to dilute language. Not a complaint at your post, that’s the most accurate description of the character fwiw

No. 1900795

AYRT, I agree, I think it's a case of sunk-cost fallacy. She's been so outspoken about trooning out and dived head first into the cult which has made it very hard for herself to back out of it now. Like you said, she'll never mention regret. She'll dance around it, but never address the elephant in the room. I think her audience would pounce on her if she did and tell her that only 1% of troons regret their transition (or w/e bullshit statistic it is they throw about) and that it's just internalised transphobia that she's feeling. Maybe some fans will even dump her for some new up and coming gayden on YouTube, fresh meat for the cult to feast on. I find it hard to give a fuck about Ezra because she's so infuriatingly smug for a NEET who dropped out of uni and lives off what must be her parent's money. But Christ, what a bleak future. She could speak up, be the light at the end of the tunnel for other misguided women, but I highly doubt that'll happen.

No. 1900817

Who is this?(spoonfeeding request; lurk more)

No. 1900842

>no I swear it's definitely bisexuals doing this
what bisexual have you ever seen do this that isn't a pornsick male tranny? I'm being serious - show proof. I'm yet to see a single normal person saying or supporting this. the only people I've seen are trannies calling themselves lesbian. trying to pretend it's anything other than that makes you sound legitimately schizophrenic.

No. 1900850

I don’t mean to sound schizophrenic. It’s mostly trannies, including ones I know personally. I know about 6 bisexual women irl who “identify” as lesbian and date men and trannies though. east coast USA.

No. 1900852

My best bet is that the 1% are the ones who stayed troons even if they regret. Total number of regretters have majority detransed.

No. 1900859

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Honestly, that part was unintentionally hilarious because the character Sparrow was shown to be more man-hating than other characters. So, it was shocking when she started dating (and would later marry) a man. The other characters speculated that she must have been with either some super-macho dude or a super pretty guy. However, it turns out she was seeing a chubby, balding, bearded "progressive" man who is secure about his masculinity. It was comedy gold cause this probably did happen to someone she knew.
There's another character sydney, who is a woman studies professor, very obsessed with feminist theory, and calling out "cis-white-male patriarchy". However, she's bankrolled by her dad, with whom she has a very good relationship. She doesn't care about the fact that he married one of his students who is the same age as her. Again, that's unintentionally hilarious.

No. 1900916

>"you sound legitimately schizophrenic" while insisting it's only TIMs doing the "bisexual lesbian" schtick
KEK, don't play dumb. Plenty of women are calling themselves that nowadays. It's not a condemnation of all bisexuals to say that some of them are language diluting, pomo assholes. Unclench your cheeks.

No. 1900917

This comic is just Dilbert for Liberals.

No. 1900952

This will stay in my mind for the rest of my life. I feel I have learned something profound from it.

No. 1900960

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some TIF comics are just plain sad. left is how she actually is and right is how she wishes she could be

No. 1900961

Wait, there's a bad comics thread? Where?

No. 1900963

As an autist myself, I find it very funny that she still dresses exactly the same in her fantasy where she's not autistic.

No. 1900970

Imagine dreaming of being a fat, scruffy slob. At least aim high and try to manifest into a Chadsona.

No. 1900974

Why can't she work? Even child abuse survivors are expected to work. Why is bougie McDonalds-fat not required to work? I also don't know why her tits would magically hurt unless they were rotting off from diabetes.
TIFs need help but a front-sausage graft isn't going to fix what's wrong with them. Even after trooning out they'd still be autistic unhealthy losers.

No. 1901015

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I can honestly see Ezra ending up similar to mxmorphling/CallMeLaddie, detransitioning and claiming to be nonbinary despite clearly living as a hyperfeminine woman as to not lose all her followers. These type of detransitioners piss me off the most because you can obviously tell they regret the hormones and surgeries but double-down on the gender shit because claiming to be a pronoun freak is more respectable for them than a woman.

No. 1901029

>unintentionally hilarious
You think her obviously intentionally funny shit is an accident because it doesn't say THATS THE JOKE in huge bold letters below every panel?

No. 1901030

>"uwu i want my clothes to look good on me!"
>wears crocs

No. 1901038

i think she's very tired of the negative attention she gets and just wishes to disappear and not be fearful of randoms anymore. an average looking moid is the "default" type of person, she just wants to be seen as "normal" (notice the autistic/not autistic). i get her, to be honest, she wants her life to be easier.

No. 1901042

You could use your brain and think about how much easier it is to be a man for any woman who is even vaguely independent and not interested in living the life that entails male attention and pursuit.

No. 1901045

offtopic but crocs are actually in nowadays. no, I don't get it either

No. 1901062

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If anyone follows @ofangie in the art side of instagram. Literally the same tale over and over again.

No. 1901064

I don't know anything about this person specifically, but even "high-functioning" autists can struggle to hold onto jobs. I got fired from a lot of jobs in a relatively short span of time when I was younger, it took me quite a while to find a niche. In that situation, it's hard not to get depressed and worry about the viability of working long-term. There also could be something besides the autism affecting her ability to work. Just my two cents.

No. 1901072

Can't tell if that's supposed to be God, the artist holding a past version of herself, or Toki from Metalocalypse.

No. 1901093

>"Right" and "wrong" hormones
>Female tumblr-user typical art style
>Female typical typing style
>Weirdly misogynistic and objectified representation of her pre-transition self
>Clear fascination with stinky-looking men
This one image alone could probably win TIF bingo in a single turn.

No. 1901114

Nooo what? I always liked her art. Then she started dating this TIF she was friends with and was "suddenly attracted" to her when she trooned out. Really surprising because her art has always had a focus on the female body but idk haven't tuned much into her recently. I always thought she was so pretty too.

No. 1901164

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Redditor having IVF and doesn't want a daughter, she admits it's because she doesn't want to bright a daughter into this world because of female oppression. I never want kids, I wouldn't want a son or daughter, especially for the same reasons. But she gets delusional in thinking that her daughter could just identity out of being female and everything would be fine.
>I am lucky enough to have some mtf trans friends. So hopefully a female child would, statistically speaking, feel differently and actually like being female, and if not, hopefully they could do something about it and not have a life of misery like I did.
>I also recognize that the child could always change their own sex, but I am not concerned about that because if they felt that freedom in a way that would be living my dream so of course I wouldn't be against that - it would be a beautiful example of how much the world has changed, even if it is still imperfect.
She shouldn't even have children with this mindset, and if she's the one who's going to be pregnant it will be the biggest reminder of her sex. I can sympathize with the trauma we all have from being born female, but I can feel the hatred for women oozing off her post.

No. 1901166

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No. 1901167

She's a narcissistic idiot for even doing IVF and then jerking off about what a shit life she's about to give to her baby on reddit. Very easily avoidable problem that she insists on giving herself and then pretending to be tortured about, it boggles the mind.

No. 1901168

yes, if she so wanted to not cause her child major suffering, she wouldn't breed at all

No. 1901171

You'd think she'd also not want a son because if a daughter is guaranteed to be traumtized from being female, then a son would be guaranteed to be misogynist and could grow up to be a rapist, but because of her "trauma" she only focuses on how there's nothing worse than being a woman, and you're better off being anything else.

No. 1901172

the first comment in >>1901166 gaslights her into oblivion:
>thinking that birthing a moid is bringing another oppressor = silly
it's likely a mtf commenter though, so obviously, like every common moid, he wants her to breed and defends it. or a tradthot

No. 1901191

why do they all want to be old fat ugly men, self hatred?

No. 1901202

Maybe they're just trying to be realistic, they see themselves as fat ugly women but they think being male in itself is better so they'll be fat ugly men

No. 1901212

>but because of her "trauma" she only focuses on how there's nothing worse than being a woman, and you're better off being anything else.
Does she and the others know how insensitive this is? Seems like touching grass and going for a day field trip is never enough for the bunch of TIPs. Literally you cannot choose the sex of your offspring, live with whatever it comes Tiffany.

No. 1901218

It's probably best they have a boy tbh. I'd really pity any girl growing up with such a misogynistic, victim blame-y parent.

No. 1901220

They're going to raise a super entitled misogynistic freak with no boundaries if they have a son. The best possible result is if they sterilize themselves and every alternative is somehow made unattainable for them.

No. 1901222

TIPs are literally built for sterilization. If we answer to them once more we're giving them what they want. I suggest we ignore this topic if it includes them

No. 1901258

What makes her believe that as a man she wouldn't have autism?
This image only shows that troons are people without self-esteem who over-idealize life as the opposite sex, not because they have real dysphoria problems.

No. 1901286

I mean, she does feel dysphoria, as in she is dissatisfied with her life and feels uneasiness about it. But can it be fixed? Of course it can, she can just go to a doctor, get her hormones checked so she can get some medication for her fatness, eat actual food instead of fast food and candy, workout and find other autistic people to hangout with.
I just hate how trannies try to turn a term used to feeling dissatisfied and uneasy into something that’s somehow very serious and totally important to treat immediately.

No. 1901351

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No. 1901357

Not sure what she's even trying to say here.

No. 1901370

Are TiFs just stupid low IQ women? Your style and personality have nothing to do with how your body looks. You don't have to dress femme and be girly just because you have big boobs. You don't need to be on T to dress in shorts. She looks happiest in the second drawing.

No. 1901378

You can tell she wants the ugliest scars possible to attract attention. Nothing better than old smelly socks on fresh wounds that need to fucking breathe!

No. 1901380

Stupidity seems to be the pattern. You have to be at least a little retarded to go on hormones at the very least.

No. 1901398

Like >>1901114 said, it's upsetting because of how she would draw women. But from what I've seen from multiple posts of hers, she seems to just hate that she "bimbo-fied" herself and now wants to be a man. Using the 4chan "foid" to describe herself. A woman cannot be non-feminine, not smart, not funny, gross or weird, because all of these things are "man" apparently to her.

No. 1901399

I'd wager she just invented a problem so she could post something online again. "yeah yeah this is totes a life hack, no no, I promise I'm not a narcissist". The fact she mentioned the bloat from the medicine seems like her old ED mentality is still there tbh. I hadn't even noticed because, well, she has fucking socks in her post-op binder. But she just had to slip that in there to let her fans know she's not an icky fatty. Anyway, infection arc coming soon?

No. 1901411

idk about her ed but I saw the fat part as a massive cope so she could delude herself that it will go away. She is getting fat due to testosterone and will get even fatter, she will look like a middle aged british man with a beer belly. Tragic

No. 1901413

Yeah, as someone with PCOS you gotta get your cardio in or the weight gain can snowball real fast. It's not so bad if you already lead an active lifestyle, but for internet addicted TIFs who think their radioactive gel will turn them into twinks, it can be 41% fuel.

No. 1901558

hate being into niche obscure nerdy shit like boomer shooters or horror movies (not the ones with slashers that girls lust over tho) or dinosaurs or something and meeting other women and 95% of the time its a tranny.

No. 1901561

same nona. you can actually meet other real women at irl meetups if you have any in your area. i love a specific music genre and 99% of the time online "women" into that are mtfs (or themlets), but irl i see actual women

No. 1901562

nice nlog blog. try making friends offline

No. 1901565

>I don't want to being children into this world especially female because of the state of it, but im going to because I have timmy tim tim friends from whom my daughter can learn to love being a woman through their sexualised pedophilic lens of being girls!
Do they test for mental illness before ivf or just physical

No. 1901573

seems like the 2nd girl is her right before puberty, she was happy before puberty hit her and she started to get feminine and not childlike which obviously brought unwanted sexualisation
many such cases!

No. 1901580

have irl friends, they aren't autistically into the same shit i am, and that wasn't an "nlog". it was more like being excited to encounter another woman except they reveal themselves to be a tranny. this is a common complaint in the thread so >>1901562 calm down tiffany.

No. 1901657

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Not mention also the "NLOG/Tomboy" is so '00.

No. 1901662

>whinge about "misogyny" but still identify as cis
is she really thinking she can identify out of misogyny? and why the quotation marks around misogyny? does she fucking believe it's a made up thing?

No. 1901683

Does CM stand for cis men??
So women are bitches by default because they're transphobic, but she babies transphobic men because they're only transphobic due to toxic masculinity (which is exclusively women's fault apparently)?
Is there context missing here? Because this feels comically misogynistic for pastel tumblr comic standards and she's agender so she's not even a trutrans. Is she just being really confusing over whether she's using "bitches" in a gendered/gender neutral way or…?

The way she draws herself/her self insert seems like she wants to do a "mean half-contraria edgelord that says things like they are with no sugar coating" LARP, so the only explanation I can think for this is that she twisted her brain so hard trying to be "edgy but in a TRA way" that she flipped herself into hating and blaming everything on women.

No. 1901692

this is a panel from the webcomic leasebound and is supposed to be satirical, for any anons who were curious. i was surprised to see a tif being so upfront with the misogyny but it turns out this wasn't made by a tif at all. still funny tho kek

No. 1901694

fuck i fell for it. the spelling of "transwomen/transmen" should've given it away, true and honest trannies don't spell it like that since it's associated with gender criticals.

No. 1901696

all this coddling of males and calling all women bitches kind of helps this chick pass… as an incel.

No. 1901699

didn't see this until after replying but that's pretty clever satire ngl

No. 1901702

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No. 1901707

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this is what she looks like btw

No. 1901717

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>Dyke is a gender identity

No. 1901742

It’s reddit, of course not. Quite a few people even suggesting she transition or see a gender specialist who will only indoctrinate her more. Lots of people thinking they’ve got a good gotcha point asking her what she would do if her kid is a MTF or nonbinary, when it’s clear she hates femaleness so a troon son or an aiden daughter would be a win for her. Also with IVF you can choose the sex unless it’s banned in your country.
Those can’t possibly be fucking dirty socks right, she’s this stupid and nasty wtf.

No. 1901744

I seriously thought the character in the sweater was Mettaton at first.

No. 1901772

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>dyke is a gender identity completely detached from lesbianism!
>you can totally call yourself a dyke without ever having to touch an icky vagina!
>anyone who disagrees is an evil nazi bigot terf!

No. 1901773

saged for blogposty which is very common actually i remember when my breast grew the attention i got was way worse i was even catcalled on the street once i was 14 after which i started to bind my chest as so it wouldnt show,then wearing baggy shirts surprise surprise i was still harassed i was very close to the tif route too ,i think often times this is just the wrong way to deal with sexual trauma women face on a daily basis or them being lesbians and not accepting it, desexualizing yourself wont make the moids go away and defining femininity as girl wear skirt and makeup is redundant(blog)

No. 1901815

>"not an nlog"
>calls the anon a TIF with literally zero evidence
A hit dog will holler.

I'm so sick of hearing this shit. Like yeah, being a lesbian - particularly a GNC one - is an experience of being othered, no doubt about it. But how is this helping? The response to being told you're not a "real" woman is not to say "you know what? I'm not". God, I wanna a-log so bad.

No. 1901827

tif ""logic"" and misogyny at its finest.
>if only i was a male, i could be independent and ignore other males!!
tifs will sooner chop body parts than try to get their shit together. it's not even body dysmorphia or trauma here, just some excuse not to hold a job and live on their own like a shit ton of women are doing in the west. bc of course they never come from countries where women are actually forced to rely on a moid.

No. 1901842

>septum ring shows up on camera
This absolutely sent me. These people need a vacation in a gulag to reprioritize their lives

No. 1901888

See >>1901692 Is not a self-insert of the author, but a mock of all the TIFs that think like that.

No. 1901892

So I'm an artist who watches another artist do some livestreams and I noticed overtime that within her friend group that she invites on her stream are vastly younger than her. The artist is in her early 30s while her 3 other friends are in their early 20s (20, 21, 21) and two of them of TIFs and the other one isnonbinary.

Over the past few months one of her TIF friends (who also happens to be the youngest, she had just turned 20 this year) was going on and on about how she wanted to get her breasts amputated and she ended up getting it down last month.The other TIF is looking to "top surgery" as well as well as the nonbinary one.

Anyway the reason why I bring this up is because I can't help but feel that the older friend is being absolutely ridiculous in blindly validating and encouraging her very young friends to butcher their bodies. I mean she is a big handmaiden to troonery so I'm not surprised that she blindly validates and encourages her friends but as someone who is in her age bracket, I can't help but feel shame watching this grown adult woman help steer these young women into bodily destruction. I know that at the end of the day these early 20 year olds are adults but I still can't help but feel disgusted at the lack of critical thought the older friend has with these young'ins thinking that "top surgery" is a good idea for them.

No. 1901893

Oh thanks for clarifiying nonnas. I fell for it haha
I was finding it strange because that level of transparent woman blaming vs man coddling is something you'd probably only actually find in the trutrans MRA that larps as a 4channer on purpose to pass better type of TIF, not on the enby pastel creative type.

No. 1901900

Ah yes, what a very butch pose.

Seems she's on T but shaved her face. Imagine the shock you'd get if you overlooked the septum ring and took her home.

No. 1901903

How drunk would you need to be to do that? Is lesbian dating really that bleak? Or is this just how people look in The Bay(TM)

No. 1901919

Tbh if I saw her in clothes that covered the hairy ass and stomach I would find her cute.

No. 1901921

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Bpd chan fucks gay manwhore but is offended when he turns out to be a gay manwhore

No. 1901923

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Also some trans hypocrisy spotted in the wild

No. 1901934

'Rumors cis men know jack about vaginas'

Not gunna say that men in general are very knowledgable, but since we're talking about a GAY man….

No. 1901935

Congrats Aiden, you hooked up with a nasty UTI ridden bisexual male, notoriously the grossest moid subgenre

No. 1901937

This is honestly hilarious.

No. 1901940

I don't necessarily think the dudes bisexual.

Well , he could be but either way , if he's gay or bisexual , than it's possible the guy was trying to convince himself that he was into fakebois as a way of saying " I genuinely see you as a guy , so you can't call me transphobic " something like that basically

…or the fakeboi just has a really repulsive looking body overall and he's just specifically into her body since he apparently is messaging multiple fakebois.

No. 1901963

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They're so fucking sensitive. I've seen so many TIFs who start crying and sitting their pants if the eldery woman at the clothes store calls them "she". And there are ones who can't even stand someone else having their name? Weak. No man would act like this.

No. 1901973

Deadname, really? Sounds very alive and well. They really are sensitive and real dumbasses. These people just don't put any effort into learning not to react to the supposed "dead" name of theirs or cannot even think many or possibly countless other people share the name. Such navel-gazing.

No. 1901980

please don't tell me she got triggered by hotel room service

No. 1902000

If she's in her 30s and her only friends are in their early 20s, she's too much of a stunted adult to begin with, I wouldn't expect an adult like that to stand up for much of anything.

No. 1902003

Maybe I'm a prude, but hookup culture is repulsive to me, you're just going to put some stranger's dick inside you? I almost gagged at the UTI mention, men are so fucking gross, thank god I'm a lesbo.

No. 1902050

i actually agree with her, not with regards to the labels "dyke/lesbian," but in the sense that butch/femme are functionally gender identities, as historically they had very strict roles, codes of conduct, and rules of presentation intended to imitate, to some extent, heterosexual/patriarchal norms. of course, as a result i am critical of those labels, whereas she thinks they're a good thing kek

No. 1902058

My guess is that this tif character was supposed to be portrayed as a 4channer redpill moid larper

No. 1902061

Homophobia is rampant bc misinformation that tends to be read from this moid alone and 100 other similar bi moids

No. 1902063

>this bi male on grindr didn't know my anatomy at all, kept criticising my body and asking weird questions, and let me give head though he had a UTI. Why did this happen?????
Sigh. Also,
>I have a habit of going on grindr when my self esteem is even lower than it clearly already is
So there's gonna be plenty more encounters where that came from. Pray you get out of it with nothing more than a curable STD bc that's the best case scenario there.

No. 1902074

im going to disagree with you here and say she seems more in line with the tumblr "transandrophobia" types. both are brazenly misogynistic but the faux-progressive language and infantilization of moids and tifs is more of a tumblr thing ime

No. 1902086

that's daft. gender "identity" is not real. butch and femme are lesbian subcultures with their own codes, not gender roles.
the tifs just want to say it's a gender so they can divorce the term from homosexuality and appropriate it. classic pomo "words mean what i want them to mean" kweer tactic.

only fucking afab people? sounds like a "genital preference", which as we all know is twansphobic. someone's gonna get slapped with the terf label kek

No. 1902106


Lesbian with extra steps

No. 1902108

>butch and femme are lesbian subcultures with their own codes, not gender roles
why do you think there used to be (and still is) so much hand-wringing about butches transitioning en masse? because the traditional butch role is almost functionally identical to the stereotypical masculine gender role, and it was designed that way so they'd be more capable of blending in back when homosexuality wasn't considered socially acceptable. there have always been arguments within the lesbian community regarding the merits or potential harms of this form of role-playing, but there is undoubtedly a lot of overlap between the butch larp and the ftm/wannabe man larp, even if being butch is perceived as more of a fashion statement nowadays. i'm not saying it's the case for all women who call themselves butch, but throughout history it has been used in ways that are quite similar to what we perceive as a "gender identity" - that is, identification with a socially constructed cultural norm dictating the ways that certain women should look and behave.

No. 1902160

Then explain why did Noelle troon when she looks like the femme lesbian with Molly

No. 1902162

Being a prude is just being sane and having basic common sense at this point

No. 1902167

not every person transitions for the same reasons, but noelle in particular came from a highly religious household and struggled a lot with molly having previously been in a relationship with a man, so i wouldn't be surprised if she transitioned in order to fill that role, so to speak.

No. 1902168

I fucking distrust butch/femme dynamics, and I now understand why after TIFs troon they gatekeep heavily and become the "trannier than thou"

No. 1902171

i don't get it either, especially for women. just get a sex toy ffs

No. 1902190

Samefag, these TIFs dont want any other women to fill the male role because that would mean exposing the basis of their tiffery.

No. 1902318

every gay man i've ever known, and every gay man i don't know who has talked about relationships, describes how they are in an open relationship. even married ones. every single one sleeps around and it's more "okay" because they're with another man where monogamy means nothing. i've even read articles by gay men about how lonely they are despite sleeping around and that sleeping around solves nothing but they feel compelled to do it. typical male brain.

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