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This thread is for the discussion of transgenderism / trans ideology from a gender critical and radical feminist perspective. It was originally created by Admin as an amalgamation of the TERF and Transgender threads.

Gender critical and radical feminism define gender as sociological (feminine/masculine) and sex as biological (female/male). Woman is defined as an adult human female. Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially. They strive to preserve women's spaces (such as restrooms, locker rooms, and health care providers) and areas of artistic and intellectual expression separate from men.

Trans ideology posits that one's gender is self-determined based on one's feelings and defines woman as the characteristics and behaviors traditionally ascribed to females by society. Increasingly, transactivists are conflating gender and sex and asserting that a person can self-identify both gender and sex.

Gender critical feminists strive to maintain the distinction between gender and sex. The conflation of gender and sex erases the biological reality of women, eliminates women-only spaces, and disestablishes women as a protected class. Existing laws and legislation currently being passed around the world allowing for self-identification on legal documents do not differentiate between gender and sex.

The acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism) is used primarily by transactivists and their allies to denigrate radical feminists and other women who express gender critical ideas. Transactivists portray TERFs as violent oppressors by virtue of their ideas alone.

Posts of related news and web articles are welcome. Posts of photos, videos, and blogs of transactivists for the purposes of discussion and critique are welcome. Please refrain from derailing, infighting, and ad hominem attacks. This thread is not intended for the general discussion of feminism, sexuality, misogyny, or misandry.

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https://www.genderidentitywatch.com
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https://www.lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts
http://www.peaktrans.org
https://resistersunited.org | https://twitter.com/resistersu
https://www.sexandgenderintro.com
https://www.standingforwomen.com
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https://www.transgenderreality.com
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Inauthentic Selves: The modern LGBTQ+ Movement Is Run By Philanthropic Astroturf And Based On Junk Science
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https://www.peaktrans.org/crime
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Parents and clinicians concerned about transgender youth
https://www.4thwavenow.com | https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow
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No. 387276

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I look through before and after pictures of trans women and although there are definitely some ugly guys who transition,there are also some very good looking ones
Contrpoints is a good example

No. 387280

>>387276
Nick is one of the few ecxeptions really, it's usually incel looking ones who transition

No. 387291

>>387276
Yeah you posted this in the last thread. I think “very good looking” is very subjective here. To me he looks like your average dorky white guy before his transition and downright scary after. I’ve seen handsome “before”s, but they tend to be gay.

No. 387310

See, I don't see why it's worth giving a fuck about any individual trans persons choice. You do you.

But it shits me when they mix up sex, gender and personality.

No. 387312

i see "pseudobisexual" thrown around in some of these threads but how is this like a valid term? if someone exhibits bisexual desire what makes it 'pseudo'?

No. 387325

>>387312
It means autogynephile straight men who aren't attracted to men but will fuck men to fulfill their fantasy of being female, they're more sexually attracted to the thought of being a woman than to the guy

No. 387350

All right ladies, get ready for a masterfuckery of a shitshow I just read. The original text is in Finnish so I'm doing my best to translate and summarize the whole mess. This happened in Åbo Akademi, a Swedish-speaking university in Turku, Finland.

>An African Feminist organization, Sahwira Africa International, is demanding Åbo Akademi, particularly its gender research facility, to give up its racist practices

>Dr. Faith Mkwesha, the representative of Sahwira is claiming that the leader of the facility, Salla Tuori has been preferring her white subordinates over others
>Mkwesha tells that during the Christmas Party held for the facility, the international researches were asked to introduce themselves to the students. When Mkwesha did just that, a trans person present in the room demanded to know which English-language pronoun she uses to refer to herself as the Finnish language only has one 3rd person pronoun ("Hän") and it's used to refer to both genders.
>Soon the whole group was demanding her to tell them her pronouns and Mkwesha saw the whole situation as humiliating, because the white doctorate student introduced before her wasn't asked to tell their pronouns. She let the group know that she was a post-colonialist feminist and didn't want to recognize her pronouns in a language that was forcefully brought to her country.
>The group didn't accept her explanation, and they let her know that she was being transphobic. Around a week later her colleagues confronted her in a public space and berated her for being offensive and not showing solidarity towards trans people because she refused to tell them her pronouns earlier.
>Mkwesha wrote an e-mail to her colleagues asking them to stop behaving so unprofessionally towards her. This only fueled the fire as she received 16 aggressive replies back, which she described as homonationalistic (roughly described as white countries expecting nations with lower development rate to have the same culture and ideas as them).
>Mkwesha let her colleagues know that she felt this flood of e-mails was a racist attack towards her, and one of the recipients was shocked to tears upon hearing this claim. Mkwesha says that one white woman crying was enough to steal the attention away from the racism black women experience in the facility.

TL;DR: A black African woman refuses to introduce herself with English pronouns due to issues with colonialism, gets told that she's being transphobic. The original text is here if fellow Finnfags want to look into it more or translate additional bits I didn't go over. https://www.reddit.com/r/FinnishGenderCritical/comments/azhb7h/%C3%A5an_sukupuolentutkimuksen_laitoksella_konfliktia/

It's crazy how racism was the worst sin you could ever commit just a few years ago, but now the absolute most heinous thing you could ever happen to do is to hurt a troon's feewings.

No. 387355

>>387350
Why are trans so racist? This is nowhere near the first time I've seen troons targeting black women specifically. They seem to genuinely hate black people, particularly black women.

No. 387376

>>387350
What the fuuuuck. I don't get how people can be so entitled on top of being racist.

No. 387379

>>387350
Oh I see this shit all the time. Western troons trying to "educate" other people about their degeneracy. I hate when "woke" people use the word educate because it has underlying pity and shame for those who didn't grow up similar to them.

No. 387395

>>387350
Literally idiot mob politics. I've seen it. They get even dumber in a crowd. Trans politics are weaponized racism, misogyny and homophobia.

No. 387401

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It’s Pride Month in Wellington and as a part of that Out Wellington Inc. hosts a fair called Out in the Park.

We had our place at the fair confirmed in early February so we’ve been planning on attending for some time. We were excited to go along and show that it’s okay to be a lesbian and proud, but instead we’ve been banned because our kaupapa is not “inclusive” enough.

Festival directors Drew Hadwen and Karen Harris emailed us seemingly out of the blue rescinding our stall and invoice. They said that because they “welcome all people, groups and organisations who want to join with us to celebrate the amazing diversity and creativity in our LGBTIQ+ community” they can not have our lesbian feminist stall or “presence” at Out Wellington Inc. organised events.

https://lesbian-rights-nz.org/2019/03/14/getting-the-l-out-of-the-park/

No. 387402

>>387401
they don't even hide that they hate lesbians anymore.

No. 387415

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Wyley Simpson and his fiancé Stephen Gaeth were surprised to discover last year that Wyley was pregnant, as he had transitioned several years before and was taking testosterone. Due to his hormone therapy, his menstrual cycle had stopped – which led Simpson and Gaeth to believe that he couldn’t conceive.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/03/07/transgender-man-gives-birth-baby/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6776865/Wyley-Simpson-transgender-man-gives-birth-baby-boy.html

No. 387422

>>387401
>welcome all people, groups and organisations who want to join with us to celebrate the amazing diversity and creativity in our LGBTIQ+

Guess they actually meant GBTIQ+ only cock suckers allowed!!

No. 387423

>>387415
The misogyny of the trans movement becomes painfully obvious every single time a trans man is only celebrated in the media for getting pregnant.

No. 387434

>>387350
I don't have anything to add that other anons haven't already said, but thank you for posting this. It's important to hear from various countries and what they're facing.

No. 387464

>>387415
I thought piv sex was dysphoric? She sure seems like she was fine with it

No. 387480

>>387401
We have to start lawsuits against shit like this. They'll keep taking until we fight back the way they've been getting everything they want.

No. 387482

>>387415
So are there absolutely no side effects to children being conceived by people on hrt?

No. 387488

>>387482
Wouldn't that require a scientific study? TRA would never let it happen in case the results are negative.

No. 387493

>>387488
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4528852&page=1
This is from 2008, I wonder how it turned out.

No. 387496

>>387493
From "Transgender pregnancy" wiki, looks like she continued having more children after the first.
> In 2010, Guinness World Records recognized Beatie as the world's "First Married Man to Give Birth."[15] Beatie gave birth to a girl named Susan Juliette Beatie on June 29, 2008.[16][17] Barbara Walters announced Beatie's second pregnancy on The View,[18] and Beatie gave birth to a boy named Austin Alexander Beatie on June 9, 2009.[19] Beatie gave birth to his third child, a boy named Jensen James Beatie, on July 25, 2010.[20][21]

No. 387535

>>387415
>>387482
>>387488
I do wonder how babies born from TIF's will turn out
The cxcess Testosterone from the hormones their mothers were taking before and even during their pregnancy will have dramatics effect on them

No. 387582

>>387482
Have you guys read about the case of Mary Lynn Witherspoon? The son of an ex boyfriend became obsessed with her, stalked her for 20 years and eventually raped and murdered her. The son trooned out in prison and wants the state to pay for his SRS.

There's a quote that really struck my attention:

"If I had not been such an emotional basketcase I would have pled 'not guilty' and taken my chances with a jury trial," she wrote. "If I had been able to dress the way that I would have felt more confident, I would have been dressed in a cream-colored Chanel skirt-suit with a pair of 4½-inch spike heel Jimmy Choos and make-up."

Like this man literally became so obsessed with Mary that he raped and killed her but now he wants to basically become her. The whole thing is fucking nuts.

No. 387583

>>387582
more details from when he killed Mary:

"Brown stalked Witherspoon for years, finally breaking into her home in 2003 to steal a pair of her underwear. Upon his release from prison later that year, he bound, raped, and strangled Witherspoon, resulting in her death. When he was arrested, he was found wearing a pair of Witherspoon’s slacks and underwear, and had purchased a pair of foam breasts and “women’s clothing” using Witherspoon’s credit card. He had also changed the address on his driver’s license to her residence. Although Brown pled guilty, he now claims he did so “under duress during an emotionally difficult time…likened to PMS.”"
https://genderidentitywatch.com/2016/04/21/edmonds-tennent-brown-iv-usa/

Wtf is wrong with troons

No. 387584

>>387583
>likened to PMS

why do so many men so blatantly hate women. Both the men that say these things and all the men around them that let it slide.

No. 387595

>>387496
The “pregnant man” from 2008 was the first time I questioned the whole trans thing. I was like, “WTF? If this person really considered themself male, the last thing they would ever want to do is be pregnant, give birth, and lactate, all indisputable female biological functions.” Back then, trans was very rare. I only knew two trans people and they were both chill. One was a TIM OG transsexual ultra-effeminate gay man who would never have dreamed of encroaching on women’s spaces or doing the whole “Suck my dick or you’re an evil transphobe and I’ll sic the whole trans Voltron (Voltrans?) on you to make your life a living hell!” thing to anyone, man or woman. The other was a TIF (back when only the butchest of butches, the ones who were often mistaken for men even way before transitioning, were transitioning) and was also mellow. I didn’t really regard either of them as their “chosen gender,” but they were harmless enough and I didn’t mind humoring them about pronouns. But these days the whole trans thing has metastasized into what we’re talking about in these threads, so…

No. 387596

>>387582
>>387583
yeah, this getting to be encouraging ed gein tier nonsense. he'd just kill women in his fancy clothes.

No. 387598

>>387595

Same! I'm not at all trans or even GNC, but I personally have serious issues with the idea of pregnancy. To the point where I would rather not have kids than go through it. How on earth can someone who claims to experience gender dysphoria cope with the SERIOUS hardcore body changes that come with pregnancy? Makes me seriously doubt their sincerity and / or mental state.

No. 387615

>>387464
>>387595
>>387598
The concept that using the primary or secondary sex characteristics “assigned at birth” causes dysphoria is only trotted out when they’re demanding free surgery, telling women to be quiet or denying that someone Brave and Stunning could possibly use his female penis to rape anyone. Outside of those scenarios you’re not supposed to mention it or else you’re a hateful transphobe advocating for forced sterilization.

No. 387656

http://www.newsweek.com/sex-offender-busted-drag-queen-who-read-book-children-city-library-1365384

This is why I am uncomfortable with these “progressive” pushes to expose children to drag culture. Children can meet positive LGB role models that aren’t sexually caricatures, and that aren’t fucking creeps like this guy. And of course they didn’t think to do a real background check on the guy. It may have been an innocent oversight or they might have thought it would look insensitive or whatever. But JFC.

No. 387660

>>387656
Someone on r/gc brought up that the drag scene in general is filled with men with records for drug use and prostitution, so I have to wonder if the library decided against doing background checks because they might disqualify too many of the participants and cause a PR shitstorm. Either way it's extremely negligent and if I lived in the area I'd never take my child to that library again.

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>>387656
It horrifies me to no end how people defend something like Queen Lactacia/Nemis Quinn Mélançon-Golde, the 10 year old drag queen performing at sex clubs, by claiming that the people who think what he's doing is sexualized are the real perverts. Excuse me? If it was a 10 year old girl in similar clothing doing the same thing everyone would be undeniably saying it's a child being groomed for pedophiles. But when it's a ~progressive queer thing uwu~? Well that just makes it brave and amazing!

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Has anyone heard about what just happened in Canada? Vancouver’s oldest women’s shelter and the only shelter that exclusively serves female clients recently had annual funding from the city severed due to an ambush at city hall led by everyone’s favourite swamp-dwelling NDP Vice President.

https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/03/14/vancouver-rape-relief-would-rather-lose-city-funding-than-include-trans-people.html

Basically Oger and his cronies stormed city hall and signed up to petition for the funding to be cut. Vancouver Rape Relief has almost no time to defend themselves and were only able to send 1 rep to the meeting while Oger had a handful. It was brutal.

You can watch the whole shit show here https://vancouver.ca/your-government/city-council-meetings-and-decisions.aspx

Select “watch meetings online”, go to March 13 and move the time stamp to 11:43:00

No. 387730

>>387727
All because they wouldn’t let an entitled narcissistic man in a skirt volunteer in direct contact with rape victims.
>vancouver-rape-relief-would-rather-lose-city-funding-than-include-trans-people.html
More like “trans people would rather spend a decade working to destroy a women’s shelter than volunteer at a different one” but okay

No. 387734

>>387730
They'd rather invade a space for women who are rape victims than invest in a shelter for trans women. It goes to show how much they don't actually give a fuck about "helping trans women" but instead continue to take away our spaces for their own misogynistic ego. Thia whole thing pisses me off

Watch more people hit peak trans

No. 387738

>>387734
This guy wasn’t even looking for shelter himself, he wanted to be put in direct contact with rape victims as a volunteer. Shelters screen anyone volunteering for such a position. IIRC he was offered a different volunteering position that wouldn’t put him in direct contact with vulnerable women and he refused. There were other shelters in the area who would let him volunteer in the position he wanted and he refused those too. Instead he chose to embark on a decade-long legal battle with VRR to drag them through the mud and drain their funds. Because that’s what people do when they genuinely want to help, right?

Transphobia or not, the fact that he doesn’t respect other people’s boundaries, can’t take no for an answer and is clearly incredibly vindictive are proof that VRR absolutely made the right call in not letting him have contact with vulnerable women. The fact that the media is trying to spin this as “rape shelter excluding trans people” is disgusting. They’re excluding a narcissistic piece of shit who enjoys hurting women. All his actions are proving them right.

No. 387741

>>387695
>by claiming that the people who think what he's doing is sexualized are the real perverts.
God I'm getting tired of this argument from obvious pedophiles and perverts, only in America where you call people out for putting children into sexual situations, would you be called a pervert for not being oblivious, no wonder so many children are sexually abused

No. 387748

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06y51dp/episodes/downloads

This podcast series on being Non-binary by desperately fame-hungry 'drag queen' Glamrou is pretty fucking hilarious to hate-listen to.

BBC!

No. 387760

>>387748
holyshit did they just fucking trans Storme Delarverie

No. 387765

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>>387695
From what I've seen from a couple episodes of RPDR (the extent of my drag knowledge so don't yell at me please), drag is inherently sexual and a lot of it revolves around sex, glorification of drugs and alcohol, and other adult themes that aren't appropriate for kids to see, let alone participate in. Like on RPDR there are tons of jokes about sex. Am I misjudging entirely?

No. 387768

>>387765
You're not misjudging. Drag might be a performance art, but it's generally a sexual adult one.

However, they usually do toned down shows when it comes to shows for teens/YA. I personally don't think drag should be done in front of kids younger than 14-15

No. 387773

>>387738
5 bucks says the only reason these fuckers wanted trans to be able to apply as volunteers was as some sick form of validation for their "womanhood", not genuine need to help rape victims. There are a billion positions in the world where gender doesn't matter, but these assholes wanted to infiltrate a shelter for abused women, most likely women abused by men. It's just a fucking power trip for them.

>>387741
>>387765
Also most people agree that child beauty pageants are sexualizing kids and find the dolled up 6 year olds uncanny, even though the girls are "just having fun". Those contests are even banned in France for harming the development of a child. Why would this be any different?

No. 387774

>>387695
Yeah nothing sexual about the drag name "Queen Lactacia". Move along, nothing sus here.

No. 387792

>>387765
Drag is absolutely something that should be kept in nightclubs and ballrooms and pride events, there's no reason why a 10 year old should be doing drag. Playing dress up is fine and I totally encourage that, but everything has its place. Kids shouldn't be part of entertainment for grownups.

No. 387796

>>387656
I’m really bothered by the whole drag queen storytime idea, but if I ever bring it up people think I’m being homophobic - I doubt anyone would claim I’m misogynistic if I didn’t want to take my kid to stripper storytime though. I get that the idea was that it’s supposed to normalise gay people to children, but why not just invite gay people to read in casual clothes that read pride books rather than huge men wearing woman costumes? I feel like it’ll have the opposite effect intended and these kids will start to view gay men as deviants or weirdos if all they see are drag queens.

No. 387799

>>387796
100% this. I'm a lesbian and I absolutely would rather kids were exposed to more "normal" gay/bi people instead of drag queens. Don't get me wrong, I love drag queens/kings, but I'd rather children grew up viewing LGB people as just like one of them and not some freakshow.

No. 387846

>>387773
>some sick form of validation for their "womanhood"
That's a very charitable assumption, I would've guessed they were actively seeking vulnerable women to take advantage.

No. 387893

Looks like this thread got momentarily taken down hmmm

Anyway just wanted to post this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gc_woc

No. 387974

>>387893
If that happened it's probably by the same mod that autosaged the last thread.

No. 388050

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From CahpoTrapHouse
they often joke about turning "Fascists" into sissy bimbo's and having them raped

No. 388052

>>388050
I don't care about the sissy fetish on its own but they always relate it to women. Like "i'm so dumb and vapid just like a woman haha!" or "I'm submissive and love sucking dick… like women do!"

Fuck off. Don't drag us into this. Sissy is a 100% male thing, women have nothing to do with it.

No. 388054

>>388052
Sissy fetish isn't just male, it's THE most male thing. To get off on being emasculated you have to be a man.

I know plenty of women who get off on being dominant and calling the shots. I know lots of women who enjoy being "alpha" and muscular and strong. Don't know a single woman who gets turned on by being emasculated the way sissies do. That's a male thing. Ironically even though they think sissification makes them feminine, it's the malest thing of all.

No. 388055

>>388054
It really just goes to show how misogynistic they are to their core.
The most humiliating, degrading, powerless thing they can come up with relates back to a twisted notion of femininity. The whole concept that a woman (especially one that fits into the notions of performative femininity) is nothing but a weak, stupid version of a man that exists only for sex.
It's just grotesque and disgusting. I feel like to many TiMs, "becoming a woman" actually just means relinquishing any real responsibilities in life and being a pretty hole to fuck.

No. 388063

>>387974
As soon as I mentioned it in the radfem thread I noticed it was back up within the hour. Someone has a vendetta

No. 388067

>>388063
Possible troon mod?

No. 388069

>>388067
Careful you don't get tempbanned for speculating such a thing, anon. I'm pretty sure at least one person on the moderation team gets very, very testy about that sort of thing.

No. 388071

>>388050
>Oh god shush already

can we start saying this to them whenever they start demanding even more insane shit from us? talk to them how they talk to women lol

honestly, why do they pervert literally everything about women and womanhood, down to sleepovers, periods and hairstyles like pigtails? they don't know a single thing about actual womanhood and never will, not truly. i'd love to know why they make it all a sex/fetish thing. it's degrading and puts a gross filter over my own childhood.

No. 388072

>>388071
They don't fetishize the shit parts of our lives…like the endless emotional labor or the housework dumped on us.

No. 388079

>>387415
Wow. Such an incredible news. A woman got pregnant. Stop the prints!

No. 388080

Hey (real) ladies. Ive got a question for you. How can I find an lgb normal group without pandering to troons? I know there is r/gendercritical, datalounge and the lchat but I want to meet Irl. I've got some red flags if I find a lgbt group. If they start talking about intersectionality or terfs Im out. If they are mostly troons or fakebois Im out too.
So how can I find normal lgb people? I know that there must be some hiding in the open but I dont want to risk myself to violence if I tell a fellow dyke that I dont like ladydyck. I just keep myself to straight normies but god damn, I feel so alone.

No. 388083

>>388080
Go to more normie/mainstream LGB events??? Most of my male gay friends are super normie cause there so isolated from the gender crazies unfortunately finding women who are not completely indoctrinated is harder… I also think women are a lot more wary about talking openly about GC stuff

No. 388089

>>388083
nta but what would a normie event be? Even the most mainstream of all, Pride, is overtaken by troons where I live.

No. 388098

>>388080

Build a time machine.

No. 388104

>>387695

>the 10 year old drag queen performing at sex clubs


At actual sex clubs or do you mean gay nightclubs? Also you might be confusing him with Desmond who was filmed performing to songs by No Doubt and Hole.

KF has threads on both of them.

No. 388106

>>388080
Your best avenue might be to find a local gc/radfem group and ask them, since many radfems are lesbians too. You could also join that gc reddit sub for real lesbians (I forgot which it was, most lesbian subs are full of men apparently) and see if anyone there lives in your area and knows about irl meetups and lesbian-friendly bars.

I hope you find something, anon. I’m straight but from what I can tell via LGB friends and family members, our local LGB scene has been invaded by TRAs too. The more “normie” people might not be up on the latest gender rethoric and make fun of tumblr sparklegenders but they’re still virulently anti-TERF and would rather excommunicate a lesbian than offend a straight man in a skirt. My friend’s boyfriend always seemed pretty sensible and down to earth but last time I was over at their place he suddenly started ranting about TERFs out of nowhere, equating them to white supremacists and saying they deserve to get beaten up like nazis do. It really took me aback but fortunately it’s relatively easy for me to avoid him.

No. 388127

>>388106
The gc lesbian reddit sub is r/truelesbians, in case anon is interested

No. 388128


No. 388136

>>388127
my understanding was that r/truelesbians was in fact infested with troons, same as any other subreddit meant for women. unless it's gendertrender (now gendertrending) or 4th wave now i don't trust any site. hell, i don't even trust most of lc anymore.

No. 388155

>>388104
>two different sexualized 10 year old drag queen kids performing to the public
just kill me right now

No. 388172

File: 1552954334354.jpeg (181.24 KB, 566x1626, 10D8C3D3-1AE4-4764-9D52-7A3943…)

So I guess correctly identifying someone’s gender in your head is a thought crime

No. 388174

>>388172
trans is just an inclusive word for narcs. nothing's ever good enough for them.

No. 388177

>>388172
Calling someone certain pronouns the entire time you've known them, which could be years or decades and then suddenly having to change it is exactly comparable to instances where there's no established habit and you have no trouble re-categorizing. Gooooot it.

I really wonder if people like t his have any life outside of thinking up harebrained examples of oppression to write a twitter-essay on for their echo chamber to nod at.

No. 388189

File: 1552959664792.png (25.63 KB, 450x289, bs.png)

A spa I visited in the past had private optional clothing bathing areas for designated genders. I'm assuming clothing will remain optional with this unisex bathing area they've created. Yuck.

No. 388211

>>388189
Gross, I swear to good troons and fakebois ruin so many things.
I recently went to a spa and it was such a delightful experience seeing everyone lay down and unwind.
Then, towards the end of my stay things started to feel tense once this group of fakebois came in one of the saunas. They sat in the middle of the floor looking like fools. It was obvious they were trying so hard to be unique and "meditate correctly" in front of everyone. I'm also pretty sure there was a troon in the jacuzzi tub as well when I first got there.

No. 388221

File: 1552968492090.png (1.02 MB, 1440x1429, Screenshot_2019-03-18-23-07-17…)

sigh…

No. 388237

File: 1552971635109.jpg (353.5 KB, 1075x1424, reee.jpg)

they did it.

they removed funding from a rape crisis centre

No. 388238

File: 1552971665209.jpg (478.95 KB, 1075x1472, reee reee.jpg)


No. 388241

File: 1552972628467.jpg (295 KB, 1066x1385, liessss.jpg)

this troon won't stop lying and sperging out

No. 388243

File: 1552972643762.jpg (370.47 KB, 1080x1393, lies.jpg)


No. 388266

>>388172
>What's up with all these cis bastards not indoctrinating themselves to believe in pseudoscience and an ideology not rooted on reality?!?!?!
lmfao

>>388237
Imagine hating women so much you want to cut funding from the oldest volunteering rape crisis centre in the country because they didn't allow your hairy ass in a dress to enter a space for women abused by men. These people are purebred narcs, taking away female spaces is nothing more than a personal power trip for them.

>>388241
>thathappened.jpg

No. 388309

File: 1552994016763.png (324.88 KB, 980x1378, b_.png)

Azealia Banks talking about being sexually harassed by TiMs she thought of as her friends.
With how much AB is willing to say about people, including gay men, I've noticed she never touches on trans-women in any sort of negative way. I wonder if she's hitting peak trans, but keeps it quiet so she doesn't get completely blacklisted from the industry once and for all.

No. 388310

>>388309
Wonder how long it will take for her to be called a terf

No. 388311

File: 1552994680398.png (118.44 KB, 1152x498, trf.png)

>>388310
It already happened multiple times. She was harassed by her own fans for trying to discuss being sexually harassed and wanting a space for cis women.

No. 388312

>>388311
>woman opens up about being harassed by a tim
>"honestly it really just reads like veiled trans exclusionary feminism."
just fuck off

No. 388313

>>388221
Fake fans, it's Mewtwo that said that, not Mew. But Mew is pink and fits their godawful ~twans flag~ color scheme

No. 388314

File: 1552995058796.png (121.9 KB, 1176x534, sx.png)

>>388309
This has happened six times in her experience. Just think how often it happens in literally every other "inclusive, trans-friendly" space and all the women are told to shut up or accept it, or else they're transphobic.

No. 388316

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No. 388317

>>388309
That's so sad. She says she will pay for a TIM's hormones, nails, rent, surgery but they repay her by sexually harassing her.
Stop supporting these parasitic fuckboys Banks!

No. 388318

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No. 388319

File: 1552995468578.png (278.25 KB, 1170x1140, xc.png)

>>388318
She's trying so hard to explain herself and even repeatedly calls them her "sisters" to make peace, but her TRA fans are not having it.
It's psychotic how much these people hate women.

No. 388320

>>388318
>I'm growing beautiful boobs
Fuck off forever, blokes.

No. 388321

I feel like because people think azealia is problematic in a dozen different ways they won't actually listen to what she's saying. Which is sad

No. 388322

File: 1552995741768.png (190.08 KB, 1236x816, xv.png)

>>388321
They won't, but with the aggression she faced just for daring to talk about this, she's definitely having her internal wake up call on TiMs and TRAs. IMO, all that matters is that more and more women open their eyes to how fucked up this all is.

No. 388323

>>387415
cursed image

No. 388326

>>388318
>TiM starts talking about his "beautiful boobs" while a cis woman is ranting about being sexually harassed by them
That's some hardcore NPD talking there my dude

>>388319
>C-CIS WOMEN DO IT TOO!!!
Yeah I'm really scared of a 5ft6 cis woman slapping my ass compared to a 6ft man in a dress with a functional penis and twice the body mass I have. Jesus fucking christ.

No. 388327

>>388322
Anon do you know what the tweet she's responding to said

No. 388328

>>388326
That's the thing that really gets me. They always play into the predatory lesbian trope. Always. "Forget that I'm a man, lesbians are the real creeps!"

No. 388330

File: 1553000119515.png (135.25 KB, 1204x514, 990.png)

>>388327
Sorry, no. I only saw all this on her Twitter after the whole thing seemed to die off.
I wish Tweets were still visible when quoted.
>I love my trans sisters
These aren't your sisters, AB. These are weird, sad men.

No. 388332

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>>388330
Nvm, decided to look at the troon's Twitter page and found this.
https://twitter.com/try2unlockit/status/1107870543385026560
He made some more shitty, dismissive comments, posted a message he sent Kim Petras to get him to not collab with her (honestly? good riddance lmao), and blocked anyone who called him out.

No. 388333

>>388330
The amount of people completely dismissing the fact that she got assaulted is heinous

No. 388334

So, did they suspend AB's twitter account?

No. 388335

>>388334
Just saw that her tweets are protected, sorry.

No. 388341

Thoughts? This shit keeps being liked by some people on my TF. https://twitter.com/InkKatana/status/1107288462586200066
Can any biology-related person confirm ?

No. 388344

>>388341
God people on Twitter are so dumb I would like to actually see the studies they posted cause I have a feeling they're misinterpreting them

No. 388345

File: 1553007501760.png (140.5 KB, 640x1136, IMG_4546.PNG)

>>388341
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testis-determining_factor

The stuff about XY not necessarily meaning male is true. It sort of irks me when gender-critical people claim that sex is definitively based on being XX or XY, because that's so easily refuted by this.

Using your chromosomes as a sex marker is still very much of the time valid. Additionally, when the testis forming gene is present in XX individuals, that individual is going to be pretty much entirely male, and same for XY individuals in which it is absent.

No. 388346

>>388334
I still simply cannot understand how trans issues became such a big deal that you can't say literally anything negative about it without being silenced. There's nothing like it. Imagine if misogyny was treated the same way. They want to larp as us so badly but don't give a shit about us.

No. 388347

>>388341
One last point but that person brought up intersex conditions but intersex conditions are sex specific. Only men can have klinesfelters and only women can have Turner's syndrome.

This is the same tired argument that biology don't real because disorders and anomalies exist

No. 388354

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No. 388355

>>388136
No, it's not. It's openly gc and troons get banned on sight there, even if they don't disclose it some mod or user would check the posting history. Maybe you're confusing it with r/actuallesbians and r/lesbianactually, both infested with troons beyond saving

No. 388357

>>388347
This. Trannies using intersex conditions as a shield is bullshit, you wouldn't claim a human can have any amount of limbs just because someone is born with an extra arm or one leg every now and then. Sorry Harmony, you were born with XY chromosomes, functional testes and a penis, you're not intersex. You're a man and in no place to talk about muh chromosome anomalies. Admittedly it does happen that a baby born intersex gets assigned the wrong sex, but it's relatively rare and an entirely different issue from a normal person wanting to mutilate their healthy body.

No. 388358

>>388354
>assuming that employee's gender and pronouns
ugh how problematic

No. 388359

>>388346
>I still simply cannot understand how trans issues became such a big deal that you can't say literally anything negative about it without being silenced.
Because it's lead by men (albeit, mentally ill men pretending to be women). The ironic part of the trans community is that if it weren't for male privilege, it wouldn't have reached the heights it did.
A pack of sick, delusional men still have more power than women in any given society. Let that sink in.

No. 388363

>>388354
This is some hyperspeed levels of irony.

No. 388364

>>388354
>so I snap a photo of the employee without their consent

stay classy

>>388359
Exactly this, Bruce jenner is a classic example. 90 percent of the shit he got away with because he's still a man. he's a man pretending to be a woman, but he's a man.

No. 388384

I'm reading an online book and some of the author's points about the uniformity of thought and wrongthink is extremely applicable to TRAs.

> First: shift the burden of proof to the converse of your unsupported hypothesis, defining it as the null hypothesis—true until proven false.


> Second: raise the standards for proving it false to an absurd and unsatisfiable level.


> Third: declare victory.

No. 388393

>>388341
Them taking it off as a mental health disorder will only help insurance providers not have to help cover their srs kek

No. 388424

I have to ask. At the end of all this "TERF" screaming, what have TiMs gained from attacking and subjugating us? Where are the fruits of their labor and tirade? We women aren't the ones in control of society. Men are still killing, raping and invalidating them, not us. We were never the main threat, but they still focus on us the hardest. Why??

We already know cis men will never accept them as women, so now it's some big awkward fucking clubhouse of liberal women with internalized misogyny sniping other women to defend their tranny sisters under the guise of "intersectional feminism", and all other women walking on eggshells trying not to get the libfem/TRA/troon army on their ass for daring to talk about their reproductive health, for only prioritizing their "cis-ters", for not wanting to fuck someone with a dick, or for discussing being sexually harassed or raped (because "Trannies have it harder!").

Is this "winning" for them? Is this what they want? Just to bully biological women all the time and get awarded pity prizes/participation points at every turn? Are men really this pathetic?

No. 388426

>>388424
They have won over spaces meant for women, by calling everyone who disagrees a terf.

No. 388427

>>388424
>We already know cis men will never accept them as women

We know that, but a lot of them don't realize this. They think they can bully men into it, the way they've bullied women into pretending to accept them.

So far it's worked for them. But if you read any troon community or forum you will see that once it's time to try and get a date or a relationship from men, suddenly they start hitting roadblocks and it kills them inside.

No. 388429

>>388393

Quite the opposite. Reclassifying it as a physiological condition guarantees health plan coverage of medical treatment.

Gender incongruence has already been reclassified by the WHO for the ICD-11.

Gender incongruence, meanwhile, has also been moved out of mental disorders in the ICD, into sexual health conditions. The rationale being that while evidence is now clear that it is not a mental disorder, and indeed classifying it in this can cause enormous stigma for people who are transgender, there remain significant health care needs that can best be met if the condition is coded under the ICD.

http://www.who.int/health-topics/international-classification-of-diseases

No. 388433

>>388429
>evidence is now clear that it is not a mental disorder
What evidence is this supposed to be, anyway? Because their bodies are perfectly healthy and normal.

No. 388438

File: 1553025212401.jpg (270.81 KB, 1075x959, he.jpg)

We have rapists and child abusers in this world getting off easy but let's involve police when misgendering occurs!

Twitter thread here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107779340723515392

No. 388440

>>388438
This is the third time Susie Green has reported someone to the police for "transphobic comments"

Start charging Green with wasting police time.

No. 388455

File: 1553027184893.jpeg (1.21 MB, 1242x1701, assignedmale.jpeg)

finnish tervens… when you see it…

he did talk about moving in with his boyfriend on fb and had mentioned before that he has a finnish bf… does this mean…

No. 388457

>>388455
Oh god no. How long will it take for the media to catch on and get him as the ultimate ~trans consultant~ for every trans related issue ever?

No. 388459

>>388429
So while this is being thrown at them we still have natal women having to fight for hysterectomies? Disturbing.

No. 388460

>>388354
Pretty sure establishments put up signs notifying customers of cleaning attendants of opposite sex that they will be in the bathrooms at certain times. Would not be surprised if this creep laid in wait.

No. 388474

>>388455
Wait, when did he move to Finland? Ei vittu

No. 388488

I can't help but feel that most celebrities only support trans ideology through thick and thin due to the fear of losing their career. It's just baffling to me how it's now reaching the mainstream, and only normies are the ones calling it out.

You step into stan/lgbt twt and it's just cancel culture, only respecting people with the same opinions, and being blind to all the misfortunes that occur or just downright not caring bc it challenges their beliefs.

Seeing celebs supporting "protect trans kids" for their fans and careers is mind numbing.

No. 388494

>>388488
protect trans kids is the most disturbing shit ever. I have to stop following anyone who is promoting that abuse.

No. 388495

>>388438
>>388440
This is so embarrassing. I agree, let's stop charging her with wasting police time when real issues are happening.

No. 388507

>>388494
That's exactly what I've done imo

I was a huge fan of Zendaya, but the moment she uploaded "protect trans kids" on her accnts i knew I had to let go of supporting her. (It's not like it mattered. She's fucking rich).

Now, I'm hearing that Zendaya's new show is gonna be starring a TIM named Hunter Schafer who's been transitioning since he was in 9th grade.

Imagine that, the entertainment industry going back to its roots by having males play female roles once more.

No. 388517

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Is it true that Keanu is dating (or engaged?! as some sites are saying) to this troon? If so, wtf Keanu

No. 388526

>>388517
I did some digging and all i found that there are rumour that he was dating the person in question, also that he might be secretly married. They are likely just co-workers and the media is just trying their best to squeze a story out of their relationship because they laughed together one time.

No. 388533

>>388354
>Daniel in the ladies bathroom
>"This man in here makes me feel unsafe!"

This has to be a joke, right?

No. 388538

>>388517
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5254761/Sad-Keanu-Reeves-smiles-date-mystery-woman.html

>Reeves hasn’t been linked to a woman since 2015 when he was rumored to be dating transgender Jamie Clayton.

No. 388546

File: 1553042152581.jpg (409.81 KB, 1079x1837, Chin.jpg)

>>388517
I hope not, or else his standards are abysmal

No. 388550

>>388546
He isn’t ugly but goddamn does he look unhinged

No. 388567

>>388455
>>388457
>>388474
do we have any terf agents in turku? i mean if he moved there then i guess it's only matter of time until he appears in the queer scene there

No. 388632

>>388517
Wtf I hate Keanu now
Pls don’t be true

No. 388635

>>388424
>Is this "winning" for them? Is this what they want?
Yes. They hate women. Taking over our voices, spaces and whatever their grubby hands can grab is exactly what they want. They know they're in no life-threatening dangers because even the trannies getting killed are black prostitutes and not white IT professionals, their endgame is to completely have women crawl at their feet.

>>388488
Celebrities are always ready to go with any mainstream ideology to keep their career afloat. I doubt they actually believe in the shit they support unless they have a family member who's into it. At this point in time it would be the ultimate career suicide to speak out against trannies, I'm surprised Graham Linehan hasn't been detained for "hate speech".

Sort of related but maybe last year or so I was watching a TV panel show popular in my country, and at some point one of the hosts started screeching about troons and how self-identification laws should be installed right the fuck now. It came totally out of nowhere and it was so fucking obviously done as a publicity stunt. Completely made me cringe, especially after it received massive applause from the audience. It was a Finnish program called "Hyvät ja Huonot uutiset" and the person who did this was Niina Lahtinen iirc.

No. 388644

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>>388546
This guy is on Sense8, a show Netflix tried to cram down my throat for weeks upon weeks. When I finally gave it a chance it was so tryhard, like they let a tumblr wokenes checklist dictate the creation of all the characters and their storylines. There were gay male main characters but of course the only lesbians (with the exception of the meanie terves harassing an innocent transbian at pride unprovoked ofc) were this TIM and his “lesbian” girlfriend. I looked up the creators and of course it was the Wachowski “sisters”.

No. 388676

>>388567
Turku terf here, will report any local sightings

No. 388684

>>388488
If you're talking about don cheadle I think it's cause his kid is trans but that might just be a rumor

No. 388707

File: 1553094132818.png (4.96 MB, 750x1334, 27192CFF-2E66-4B03-8D78-96C8B4…)

… if you say so… lol

No. 388710

>>388707
I'm sure the existing employees are thrilled that a man is there to finally show them how to properly wear dresses.

No. 388711

>>388707

> no waist


Sure jan

No. 388714

>>388711
>jan
*jon

No. 388732

>>388707
>>388711
the lack of waist makes it look like a muumuu on him.

No. 388745

>>388707
He really thinks that looks better. Delusional.

No. 388770

>>388707
>pairing that trashass purse with that dress
Literally as if he didn't look ridiculous enough, the fact that he cannot coordinate is so hilariously embarrassingly, out of touch male that it isn't even funny. Looks so dumb.

No. 388781

>>388707
They always hop into female spaces and start spouting how they're actually better than cis women. Then when women don't want them there they cry about the lack of support and ask where the sisterhood is.

We're expected to bend over backwards to accomodate them and send them endless compliments but they will come for us and insult us in ANY situation.

He is literally just attending a job interview. There was no need for the dig. He could have said "When you have an interview at Kate Spade and you're matching the mannequin." But no, lets' just drag some women down since they don't really matter.

No. 388787

File: 1553112544901.jpg (46.36 KB, 408x594, vagina.jpg)

"I haven't swam with a vagina before! Does water like go up the hole by itself?"

Summary of the latest episode.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/i-am-jazz.52472/post-4453105

No. 388788

>>388787
I'm no expert but going for a swim in the ocean a month after getting a neovagina seems unwise.

No. 388793

>>388787
How would female friends know what happens with a neovagina anyway? They're so different to real vaginas.

No. 388799

>>388787
i actually feel so bad for him. hes still a child and yet he/his parents have completely mutilated his genitals and destroyed any chance of him ever having a normal life.

not to mention that even after all this he still looks so painfully bulky and male.

No. 388802

Ok, I'm being serious. Have you all thought of playing the long game of calling yourselves transwoman to get back our rights? My radfem friend did this with a scholarship and they gave it to her when all she said that she was "trans" and she has a fake troon account on twitter and everything.

The logic is kind of like how it's seen in affirmative action, where it's purpose is to help minorities but the majority are given to white women because women is a protected class. (I know bad example but that's all I got)

No. 388804

>>388802

>playing the long game


That's gaming the system. And no, because the system needs to change,not my identity.

No. 388806

>>388804
Well we already see men doing this for more privelge points so no one can call them out for being racists and get away with it, I say why not?

No. 388808

>>388802
Don't they ask for your real ID or any other proof before giving you a scholarship?
Btw yes, I've actually thought of claiming to be a troon in order to open a gofundme and get some TRA money. Of course I'd donate half of it to some women-only charity, was thinking of Vancouver Rape Relief actually

No. 388809

>>388808
There are a few that do it on twitter / tumblr for asspats and betabux and troons get secretly angry about not passing as well as who they think is a MTF (kek). Radfems could start doing this to avoid being banned on twitter and all they have to say is that they're post-op and don't show old pics because it triggers their disphoria. Twitter and reddit is a hug box so if anyone calls you out they immediately get shamed.

No. 388810

>>388808
Samefag but you could also say that you transitioned early / intersex and that can work as well since troons and males have no problem doing the same.

No. 388815

>>388808
I really wouldn't advise doing that just to start a kickstarter for your own profit unless you're prepared to own up to the lie oneday and accept whatever social (or even legal) consequences come with it. Also any GC points you have will be undermined by it until you eventually come out with the truth.
But if it's your ticket to a free education or something like that, then hell yeah, get it girl. They can't prove that you're not trans and you can always 'detransition' after

No. 388818

>>388815
How would anon have to own up to the lie and have social and legal consequences? No one would be able to know who she really is and prove that she's not trans, and as far as I know gofundme doesn't share your real info… I've always seen a lot of scammers on that website, no one was doxxed.
Just make a twitter/whatever account, insert yourself into TRA circles, fish for attention, start ebegging for a bit and if it's successful, stick around for a bit more to say how "happy" you are and then disappear into thin air claiming you're leaving social media to enjoy your new life, focus on your job or whatever (or delete your account)

No. 388834

>>388809

>Radfems could start doing this


No self-respecting woman, let alone radfem, would do this.

No. 388836

File: 1553124738955.jpg (22.69 KB, 540x406, SEI_56991810.jpg)

A transgender woman threatened to stab a 10-year-old girl’s mother during a terrifying sexual assault in the female toilets of a Morrison’s supermarket.

Katie Dolatowski, 18, admitted grabbing the youngster by her face and forcing her into the cubicle before demanding she take her trousers off at the store in Fife, Scotland, on 4 March. She carried out a similar attack just weeks earlier, on 8 February, when another young girl using the toilet at an Asda store in Halbeath spotted Dolatowski using a mobile phone to spy on her over the partition wall.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577

https://www.theblaze.com/news/mother-blasts-sentence-transgender-attacked-daughter

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/transgender-paedophile-hid-internet-searches-dxz772k9z

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/832849/warning-as-transgender-sex-offender-placed-in-womens-hostel/

No. 388841

>>388818
Exactly. If I decide to start saying that I'm a trans woman who passes beautifully, who's going to tell me that I'm not? The insanity is such that everything is self-id anyhow. Everyone in this thread is clearly a troon and we should all get free healthcare for our terribly interesting, self-lubing, self-cleaning, no-hairball-forming vaginas. We even have the strange ability to carry children in some mysterious pocket in our bellies, produce healthy food from our breasts, who knows what else we can do! Obviously, there needs to be more study into this extremely unique and clearly superior form of trans woman.

>>388788
My mom couldn't take a bath for six weeks after her hysterectomy. More proof that these butchers don't care about the bodies of these kids.

No. 388846

>>388836
>things libfems and TRAs say doesn't happen

No. 388854

File: 1553127508712.jpg (675.37 KB, 1080x1460, Screenshot_20190320-170617.jpg)

Way to feed into the societal expectations of beauty that real women work hard enough to disregard. Didn't we just have a hashtag last month celebrating noses of all sizes? Anyway, I get frustrated enough with all these dudes who manage to be given piles of money for various unrequired surgeries, but to specifically point out his nose? It doesn't even look that big , jfc

No. 388870

>>388836
I might be a bit fucked up here, and I obviously don't want women or children to get abused or harassed ever, but every time something like this happens I like the fact it's going to make more and more people hit peak trans. Trannies are way over represented in sex offender and paedophile statistics, the more of them getting caught and peak transing people the better.

No. 388873

>>388854
I wish people would give me money to fix my perceived problems…damn

No. 388891

>>388854
kek, the funny thing is like… it's everything else that's the problem, dude. your nose isn't what's making you look masc

No. 388896

>>388854
there are plenty of natal women with noses like that. his nose isn't what's making him look male.

No. 388911

>>388896
Is it necessary to say natal women? If yes, why? Thanks.

No. 388919

>>388854
What is the point of getting surgery when he is just gonna go off and feel insecure about something else later? Just take your roman nose and gtfo

No. 388940

>>388911
it isn't, it's a habit I have from trying to convert handmaidens and not wanting to use the word "cis".

No. 388946

>>388836
>It's just a bathroom, claiming that this would happen is bigotry!!! CIS WOMEN DO IT TOOOOOOO
If this isn't kafkaesque horror, I don't know what is.

>>388854
People commit suicide over severe BDD all the time, why are you qualified to get free surgery instead of therapy the minute you claim you're trans?

No. 388957

>>388836
Ughhh but guys they just wanna use the bathroom though! Kek

No. 389012

File: 1553175680844.png (105.32 KB, 537x452, 3d18feb810c348f96ab7316adb65c3…)

They really love doing that "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU TERF" shit huh. No matter how politely and respectfully someone brings up their point, they'll just start reeeing and blocking if someone doesn't agree with them.

No. 389025

It really annoys me that the detrans woman kalvin garrah decided to talk to is clearly unwell and believes in a ton of weird conspiracy shit. There are a bunch of detrans women that are closer to kalvins age but ofc go for the one that seems insane to discredit any point she may make

No. 389027

>>389012
>I feel females need their own spaces for safety, something easily proven by male criminal rates being the same as TiM's cirminal rates.
>I CANT HEAR YOU DUMB TERF

No. 389048

>>388330
>I was sexually harassed
>TERF!
Jesus Christ. Aealia will insult anyone and probably savage a fucking infant if they looked at her wrong but tip toes around trannies. Pisses me off. She's not this stupid also funny this is coming from a person who has an entire song about men who are jealous and wanna be women. "ALL THESE OTHER BITCHES H-TO THE-I-M-S!" Lmao.

No. 389049

File: 1553183168236.jpg (56.54 KB, 598x442, kalvin.JPG)

>>389025
Wait since when has Kalvin been detrans? Still going strong with the trans shit on twitter at least.

No. 389052

>>389049
no he talked to a detrans woman on his youtube

No. 389068

Anyone tried LARPing as circumgender to trigger TRAs/TiMs/TiFs? They have no real argument against it, so it's pretty funny.

No. 389069

File: 1553185860177.png (32.39 KB, 1500x1000, signs-of-low-emotional-intelli…)

Was going down the article rabbit hole and stumbled on this one about low emotional intelligence. Seems like a lot of trans people fit the signs of low EQ.

No. 389088

>>389052
ahhh my bad

No. 389103

>>389069
not to be a femcel but i think that's just men, which also further proves that trannies are definitely, certainly, no doubt about it, same as the average man

No. 389126

Does it piss anyone else off how troons keep framing Japan's laws around changing gender as "sterilization"?

For context: Japan requires troons to have had SRS to legally change their gender. Troons have decided to start writing headlines saying shit like "Japan requires awesome trans gals to be sterilized to change gender."

It's so deceptive. Yes, having SRS will sterilize you, that isn't the goal and they know it. I'm so sick of how troons twist and manipulate words to get their own way, and everyone just falls for it every time.

No. 389133

>>389048
She has a troon brother, that could be the reason.

No. 389153

>>389133
she does? ?

No. 389177

>>389153
Sister, rather. Her sibling is an ftm.

No. 389189

File: 1553199072516.jpg (535.17 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20190321-130910_Twi…)

Took me a second to decipher what the fuck they were saying

No. 389194

>>389189
The massive amount of infighting within the troon community is probably going to be good for us in the long run so I condone it.

No. 389195

>>389189
I swear I've read and reread this about 3 times and I still don't have a clue what this post is about.

No. 389198

File: 1553199402789.jpg (82.42 KB, 500x744, tumblr_inline_pol9zqzGgH1sodnt…)

This is what desperately jealous sour grapes look like.

No. 389199

File: 1553199435239.jpg (85.06 KB, 500x704, tumblr_inline_pol9zumlut1sodnt…)

>>389198
Another troon's even more desperately jealous reply.

No. 389202

There’s a god damn Laverne Cox quote up on one of the billboards at the school I work at. That’s it. I’m just pissed about it.

No. 389205

>>389126
It’s disingenuous as hell. When they do want SRS it’s vitally important and saves billions of trans lives a week and should be fully covered by insurance or the state with zero waiting time or gatekeeping, but if they don’t want SRS then it’s forced sterilisation and practically genocide. Somehow both are true at the same time. They want everything they ask for handed to them instantly for free with compliments or else their human rights are being violated.

Japan’s system is how it used to be in most countries that acknowledged transsexuals at all. “Female” penises are a very 21th century concept.

No. 389207

>>389198
majority of the male population are still straight and into vaginas, none of them except the desperate ones will accept your girldick, get over it. you ruining your asshole is way more likely than a woman ruining her vagina.

No. 389211

>>389198
>>389199
You can never take the man out of the tranny. The violent rhetoric they spew reveals exactly what sex they are.

Who body shames like this when they don't get what they want? I think it's guys. Yeah. Pretty sure it's guys. I for one am very, very happy that Anastasia here will never, ever pass on his defective genes. Good show, my man, good show.

No. 389214

>>389198
>>389199
Did some handmaidens/libfems respond?
I'm imagining something along the lines of "oh, uh…that's not ver-very n-nice of you, you're totally female and I support you though, hahaha…" and "omg yeah we ciswomen drools transgirls rules, yass queen you go girl, am I cool by the way?"

No. 389219

>>389207
The joke here is straight men do talk about how vaginas smell and are ugly and whatever but you can bet they'd much still rather find one on their new girlfriend than a dick.

No. 389220

>>389219
because men's precious dicks taste like chocolate and smell like roses uwu

No. 389221

>>389198
>>389199
Fucking christ what an ugly beast. That profile and the comments from other trooncels are what you'd expect from a typical misogynist. Hating women, hating vaginas, hating reproduction, hating women who have kids, periods and other bio things women experience. They say this shit and wonder why nobody wants them around

It's so fucking hilarious how they cling to men being into trannies are their ace card against women. When it's been shown how alot of men are first to shut troons down and push for this tranny agenda to end.

No. 389223

>>389195
It's basically saying that masc trans men (IE, women who put effort into looking "male") are oppressing fem trans men (IE, women who want to be special by claiming to be a boy while putting no effort in) by saying they're not "tru trans"

No. 389225

File: 1553201129685.jpeg (144.08 KB, 1400x1400, 0FAD2049-AFE3-4B3B-9B00-7A9B03…)

>>389198
> “supreme female”

No. 389227

>>389205
Samefag but I wonder if it’s possible to pit the people crying sterilisation against Mermaids’ Susie Green, who took her underaged son to Thailand to have his penis inverted. I love seeing TRAs turn on each other in their hypocrisy.

No. 389230

>>389225
>lips and long hair present
>still clocked as a man moment I saw this
A tragedy

No. 389237

>>389198
i think any straight man alive would pick a "worthless vagina" (regardless of look/smell/taste/everything else that's supposedly "disgusting") over the dirty stanky asshole of another man. and if you're a troon, you obviously want one of those "worthless vaginas" too… but go off, kek.

the bitterness and hatred of women is real.

No. 389260

>>389068
Call yourself transracial, they'll start cussing you out kek

No. 389264

>>389198
If I didn't know I would've thought this was an incel

No. 389271

Anyone else who was on Tumblr and saw the "Trans Girl Marco Diaz" thing going around? I watched the show with my niece and Marco being trans seemed like another case of taking a GNC guy and transing him.

He wore makeup and a dress in the show and I guess that's all you need to be a girl.

No. 389272

>>389264
be fair, he IS an incel.

No. 389274

>>389225
Kyle Massey?

No. 389303

File: 1553210882567.gif (32.62 KB, 200x200, 1445391095942.gif)

>>389198
>>389199
>>389225
The amount of troon delusion never ceases to bewilder and amaze me.

No. 389306

>>389223
Thank you for clarifying that for me, Anon. I do appreciate this but at the same time why the hell would trans 'guys' give a shit about this kind of stuff? If they want to be men they're doing it wrong imo.

No. 389307

>>389306
No problem anon. I don't really get it either. Then again, I don't really get why people troon out at all.

No. 389308

>>389271
Ugh, I watch that show with my kid and he loves it, it’s clear that they’re pushing more the idea that he likes to cross dress/do drag, which I’d say is still an issue for a kids show (why not just show he likes wearing dresses instead of making him create an alter ego for it?) but the TRA will latch onto anything and claim it’s trans. I mean, egg culture is an unironic thing so they’re definitely desperate

No. 389310

>>389308
Hey, drag is better than mainstream cartoon troons. At least drag queens are (mostly) gay guys who accept that they're male.

Obviously drag is… not the greatest, but I'd rather that than awesome trans gals

No. 389311

>>389310
maybe not a popular opinion around here but I personally don't mind drag

No. 389316

>>389311
I have mixed feelings about it. And the intentions seem to be different from drag artist to drag artist.

Honestly the thing that bothers me the most is them referring to woman/femininity as fish. Feels like such gross slang imo. But I cant say im surprised since a lot of gay men are quite misogynistic

No. 389333

>>389311
I like drag as adult entertainment, although I’d like it a lot more if they toned down the sexism, but I don’t think it belongs in kids spaces when it’s heavily intertwined with nightclub culture

No. 389335

>>389310
No, I agree that it’s better than making him Troon out, but I still wish that they just instead showed that it’s fine for a boy to wear dresses and other feminine clothes without having to create an alternate ‘female’ ego for it. It started off by him having to infiltrate an all girls school but they really made it spiral from there on into a kid doing drag for drags sake. And we all know how well that’s working out for the likes of Lactatia

No. 389343

>>389311
I don’t really have a strong opinion on drag. I don’t personally find it enjoyable but if it’s just guys having fun dressing up and making personas then whatever, I just don’t like when they purposely try to make a mockery of women.

>>389316
What exactly do they mean by referring to women as fish? If it’s implying what I think it is…ugh

No. 389389

I think because I think drag is pretty important to LGB history and have read about early drag both for men and women I've always had an interest in it. I really wish there was a drag king scene tbh sorry this probably doesn't belong here.

I understand not liking the misogynistic aspects though.

No. 389455

File: 1553231059007.png (1.19 MB, 1916x1080, 4ggnvdsxy3l21.png)

Is it just me or do the "soft gay boys uwu" make up 90% of the TIF community ?

No. 389458

>>387259
Why does this thread keep getting taken down

No. 389459

>>389455
Just like how autogyns make up the majority of the time community.

No. 389460

>>389455
"Male terf" so they're admitting terfs are female lol

No. 389461

>>389458

Are you looking at the catalog or the index?

No. 389503

>>389458
I havent had any issues with the thread

No. 389525

https://thespinoff.co.nz/parenting/04-07-2018/im-pregnant-and-im-going-to-be-a-dad/
>Because I used a sperm donor and the first question everybody has asked, before their disbelief, has been “cool, who’s the dad?” Insert side-eyes emoji here.
>"Hey, I have some news! I’m pregnant!”
>"Oh cool! Who’s the dad?”
>“Me, I’m the dad.”
>“Haha no, you know what I mean, the real dad.”
>“…..me. I’m the real dad.”
>In other words, my pregnancy has become another excuse for the people around me to deny my gender exists in the same breath as they preach acceptance and allyship. Which, frankly, sucks, and I shouldn’t need to say it but it is the total opposite of allyship.

No. 389530

>>389525
>I am a boy. A pregnant boy. There is a foetus in my uterus.

I swear the trans movement is just full of retards

No. 389534

>>389530
just imagine having a woman who believes she's a anime Yaoi boi as a parent

No. 389535

>>389534
The ultimate fujo cringe.

No. 389546

>>389535
>>389534
I do sometimes wonder how males who were raised by fujo/yaoi mom's will turn out

No. 389550

>>389546
I'd feel really sorry for a girl raised by a TiF. Imagine if your mom had so much internalized misogyny that she identified as a man. Wouldn't be great for the kids self-image and imagine how triggered the TiF mom/"dad" would be when their kid enter puberty.

No. 389559

>>389550
>>389546
>>389535
>>389534
Good lord anons, Angelina Jolie has indoctrinated two of her daughters to troon out and she's a cis woman. She's just a histrionic unstable piece of shit and a washed up drug addict, that transcends all boundaries in human demographics.

No. 389560

>>389534
I know (online) these kind of uwu soft boy types who are mothers. One of them is embarrassing "i'm a yaoi gay boy uwuwuwu" type with a husband, when she had a birthday party for her kid it was all about unicorns rainbows queerio cutesy shit as if she was actually having the party for herself. Too bad she tweets in finnish she kinda is fakeboi lolcow material.

No. 389562

>>389560
I need to know who, I'm a Finnish terve. I have an idea but if it's not her I'm gonna die if there's another mother like this

No. 389563

File: 1553251704408.jpg (77.2 KB, 517x508, UWUUUUU.jpg)

>>389562
Google search menniäinen + twitter and I'll think you'll now who I mean

No. 389565

>>389559
Yes? It's well known in these threads that there are crazy moms who encourage their kids to be trans, like Jazz's mother.
Imagine all that craziness combined with your mom getting her tits chopped off and calling herself Aiden. Fuck I feel so sorry for those kids, whichever type of TRA parent they get.

No. 389566

File: 1553252102787.png (302.58 KB, 521x709, weww.PNG)

>>389563
Thanks anon, I got a brain aneurysm from this shit.
>Rough translation: Mother (the "enbie" troon) is in such a bad place mentally that she has to be committed, the kid's father refuses to take care of the kid's dentist visit because he's hungover and his place has been trashed by a weekend of binge drinking
What a stable environment for the kid

No. 389568

>>389566
So it's not the same person? There's more of them here??

No. 389573

>>389568
Google Kimmo Lust. Another deeply traumatized ex-sex worker woman who got caught in the nonbinary thing and has three kids. That Menniäinen person was far more spastic though, the other one is more of a tragic case than something to laugh at.

No. 389619

>>389562
>>389563
>>389573

Why the spoilers?

No. 389632


No. 389639

>>389525
>I’ve desperately wanted to have a child since I was tiny, and I’ve known it was my calling that long too.
yuck. it is not any woman's "calling" to birth a child.

>I’m finally at a point in my life where it’s actually a sensible move to get on with it – my degree should be complete at the end of next year,

still in undergrad and getting pregnant on purpose. how sensible.

From her bio at the bottom:
>Scout Barbour-Evans is a takatāpui and transmasculine boy living in Dunedin.
Why do all these people describe themselves as "boys" and "girls"??

Question for any kiwis who might be reading: Is the use of so many maori words and phrases an everyday thing in NZ or is it an overcompensating SJW thing?

>>389559
I see posts like this here every so often and they always bother me. It seems like it's the same anon every time. Is there any actual indication that Angelina Jolie's daughters are twans or are you just triggered by little girls who are tomboys and have short hair?

No. 389640

>>389639
Some Maori terms are in common usage but takatapui refers exclusively to Maori people. It's like if a white person called themselves a hijira, or a two-spirit. If you're not Maori, you're not takatapui.

No. 389642

>>389639
>Why do all these people describe themselves as "boys" and "girls"??
cause they don't want to be "ugly smelly hairy dirty men" they wanna be like their yaoi boys with hairless bodies,cute faces and short stature

No. 389648


No. 389670


No. 389673

>>389670
Kind of a sexist and shallow thing of me to say, but Shiloh would have grown up to be a very beautiful woman. Such a waste. Everyone is probably thinking after she transitions she'll look just like Brad but in reality she'll end up a tranny version of her uncle James Haven.
It weirds me out because she resembles my niece and I can't imagine giving a child hormones.
She'll end up topping herself or becoming another hollywood freakshow.

No. 389676

>>389673
Wait, did Angelina really let her kid troon out? What the actual fuck happened to letting her be a girl and dress however she wanted?

No. 389678

>>389673
Tinfoil but after having seen how crazy and petty Angie is (referencing the gossip sites accounts scandal, we talked about it in the celebricows thread) I wouldn't put it past her to be deep down jealous of her daughter, because of how similar to her young self she looks. Better to make a man out of her, so that she can remain "the one and only"

No. 389679

>>389678
Okay thats defiantly reaching in my opinion

No. 389680

>>389678
I had the exact thoughts. My mother has the same narcissistic personality and she always tried to sabotage me through food and encouraging me to be as masculine as possible.

No. 389705

File: 1553278046717.jpg (90.63 KB, 627x833, gayflag.JPG)

Fakeboi got assblasted at the gay male flag made to piss off trannies because of m-muh inclusivity. News at 11. Someone said this was a troll flag created in 4chan to cause LGBT drama but I have no idea, it's still hilarious.

No. 389742

File: 1553283433466.png (256.71 KB, 1842x696, 1553262303458.png)

Troons claim we terves "reduce women to their vaginas" and then go and write things like this.

>I need pussy in my life

>Dicks are the genitals I'm forced to be with

No. 389745

File: 1553283867558.jpg (215.23 KB, 1080x1024, IMG_20190322_204210.jpg)

Hating terfs? Bitch, that's so 2018. All radical feminists should die now.

No. 389748

File: 1553284405454.jpeg (594.42 KB, 750x1195, 9EE90D85-B3F6-4647-95DB-F5A3FB…)

>>389742

Turns out OP is a pedophile, too.

No. 389750

>>389748
they're all pedophiles

No. 389754

File: 1553286418043.jpeg (51.02 KB, 1125x625, 9A11D093-342A-4DC3-AFE4-DD785F…)

>>389742
>>389748
This is the same creepy troon who tweeted things like this, and who admitted to stealing women’s clothes and ejaculating into them.

No. 389755

Man here, was digging around exploring various chans for something new. Sure is a lot of man hate here, but your conversations are legitmately interesting to read. Less shitflinging than usual chans, but more unified hatred together on a subject. I always wondered how feminists felt about the lgbtbbq encroaching on their territory. I like that you guys tend to source more than usual as well. Easier to get a fair picture.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 389756

>>389755
man-chan, you seem nice, but men aren't allowed to post here so you played yourself.

No. 389757

>>389742
>”I want to have the immense validation of a cis lesbian telling me “I know your past, but it doesn’t change the fact that I still like you”,”
>a cis lesbian
“I know your past” how is it in the past if your dick is still there? There’s so much irony in this passage. A person with a penis wants to be seen and treated like a cis lesbian, but is not willing to fuck other people with penises who call themselves women, because it’s not validating enough. Almost as if even MtFs see being a transwoman with a penis as different than being an actual born woman… but still want to be the exception to this rule

>”I want the immense validation”

Disgusting fetish. Prioritizing getting off on being seen as a woman during sex above all else. We love a contradictory kween, kek to the next dimension

>”I’m not saying this in a scumbag objectifying way”

Rewriting reality, your mental health is showing

>”I’m fucking pissed they don’t recognize me as a lesbian, they see me as lesser”

You won’t fuck someone with a dick, you see them as lesser

>Getting off with vibrators

Jacking off to or being aroused by the idea of pretending you’re a chick is a fetish, not a gender identity

>”I’m not even looking to top!!”

This is literally such male thinking, your penis is showing

No. 389759

>>389755
BEGONE male voyeurist

No. 389761

>>389755
No one cares, sage your useless blog postings for the chan you came from, sage noncontribution and read the rules before posting. There’s so much rampant spewing of hate towards women on all other chan boards but I’m certain you’ve never once typed in their threads “Sure is a lot of woman hate here.” I promise whatever corner you crawled out of had women riddled throughout it, forced to keep on the DL from the standardized woman hating culture. Any disdain we harbor is only from you scrotes sowed.

No. 389762

>>389755
tits or GTFO

No. 389764

>>389761
Agreed.

Men really think their opinions are so important, like we're sitting here desperate for their approval. If only we had a man's perspective in a thread specifically for how much we hate men imposing their perspective on women!!

No. 389766

>>389756
Rules are easily broken when you're a phoneposter thankfully.

>>389761
Its frustrating seeing the same opinions all the time, its good to talk with people on both sides of an issue.

No. 389768

>>389742
why are these freaks always on poly stuff? all the troons i've met are poly

No. 389770

>>389761
Damn anon go off! It’s fun seeing retarded people get loud

No. 389771

>>389768
they're ugly so they're trying to get anything they could i think. every poly person i have met has been ugly as shit

No. 389774

>>389764
Its funny that you think that. I figured the angle you'd go for was that I wanted YOUR approval. Really I'm mostly neutral and on the side of logic and rationality. I think social media has destroyed society and largely created the mess this thread is about. I was wondering why more women weren't upset about men getting into their washrooms or fighting back against it, it seems you are a minority.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 389785

File: 1553291422795.png (393.41 KB, 1440x1842, Screenshot_2019-03-22-16-46-14…)

Not like the other girls!
>Diverse, liberal
This girl thinks being a special snowflake makes her basically non-white.
There's a lot going on in this post KEK

No. 389790

>>389785
Anon, she said she LIVES in a diverse area. Jfc the things you guys sperg over sometimes.

No. 389848

>>389546
no need to wait for long. Onision's first born will be old enough in a few years

No. 389857

>>389848
I knew a guy whose parents were super leftist hippies and he joined the marines just to piss them off,I feel like thats what Onison's son is gonna end up doing

No. 389902

>>389742
If you want pussy then why don't you….

Stop being a TiM ..hopefully you haven't had any surgeries..

Be a straight male..

and date straight women??

No. 389916

File: 1553329832531.jpg (141.98 KB, 720x755, 20190323_012730.jpg)

The top tweet somehow ended up on my timeline and at first I thought it was a parody by a misogynistic man. Then when I realized it was a fugly troon it all made sense.
>b-but they're not feshists!!1!

No. 389917

I saw some people saying they were glad for her she wants a sex change and honestly i just want to throw up. She’s obviously being affected by men threatening to violently rape her

No. 389918

File: 1553331882359.jpeg (85.7 KB, 640x748, FF1D3D39-24DB-4FB4-B7DE-30096C…)

Pic dropped.

No. 389919

>>389918
I looked into this and i haven't seen anything 100% confirming this. There was rumours of her transitioning last year aswell but it turns out they weren't true. I think she is only considering it to get away from gross men. I don't blame her for considering transitioning to get away from this attention, but i hope she doesn't go through with it. She needs people to have her back and try and talk some sense into her.

No. 389920

>>389918
Can you link the article, it seems like click bait. Kodak is disgusting though and has been sexually harrassing her. I remember awhile back he said that he doesn't like dark skin women because they are too tough and light skin women are "easier to break down," so it doesn't surprise me that he's rapey as hell. Sad that woman can't even be who they are without being harrassed for being "masculine," which I guess is somewhat of a gender critical topic.
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/music/kodak-blacks-comments-about-young-ma-show-he-doesnt-understand-consent-11122749

You can watch her response in this video where she calls herself female.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvKBvWcHMic/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

No. 389952

>>389918
If I were in her shoes, I'd probably just start claiming I had a sex change just to disgust men and make them leave me alone.

No. 389957

>>389952
Unfortunately, even that wouldn't make men leave her alone. I remember the caps of a FtM on Grindr, she received a bunch of creepy messages from dudes who wanted to "fucked her in the pussy". On Grindr.
Moral of the story, nothing ever disgusts men. They even fuck TIMs.

No. 389993

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I thought this article might belong here, since they do mention that the previous creator was transphobic.

Why can't "lesbians" (read: bisexuals who date TiMs) leave lesbians and their things alone?

Also the "new flag" is ugly as fuck.

https://medium.com/@lydiandragon/a-lesbian-flag-for-everyone-cef397b89459

No. 390005

>>389993
Weird, l stumbled upon this same article last night while searching for what the stripes in the lesbian flag stood for. I saw someone try to say the white stripe is meant for non binary lesbians.

No. 390008

>>389993
this looks like a pack of fruit stripe gum. it'll last about as long as the flavor. 10 seconds.

No. 390009

>>389993
These people always have the design and color sense of a toddler. None of these colors go together

No. 390011

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>>390005
OP here. I found it pretty much the same way. I was looking for the lesbian flag and I ran into pic related on the image results. Maybe on the second or third line.

I thought it was some homophobic article. Turns out I was right.

No. 390021

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Ran into a Troon in the wilds of Facebook. The girl who posted shared some tumblr screenshot of a text story where a guy believed that all women had their period during the full moon.

Saw this troons comment and saw they were in a “gay” relationship. And honestly? Im just here to bitch.

No. 390027

I know a lassie who goes by they/it, and she has a boyfriend who identifies as a girl. they call each other gay and say they are such lesbians, but now her boyfriend has gone back to using his male name? idk whats happening here but it rlly isn't a lesbian relationship and it bugs me lol

No. 390040

>>390027
I don't understand why anyone would want to go by 'it'. It seems so dehumanizing even if you're "okay" with it.

No. 390047

>>390021
The full moon thing is hilarious but how is it "cis-normative"? I swear troons always flip out when anyone mentions that women menstruate and always start mentioning themselves despite that the obvious major group it doesn't apply to is post-menopausal women. But we never see post-menopausal women or women with other medical conditions that make them not menstruate start selfishly whining over women who speak about menstruation as a female issue. Speaking about the female menstrual cycle never gets called anti-elite-athlete, eating-disorder-phobic, ageist, etc., just transphobic.

No. 390058

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>>390047
That’s why I posted it here lol. I just rolled my eyes - oh how sad for you a scrote didn’t oppress you congrats.

No. 390063

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They're delusional all of them

No. 390066

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Fucking delusional

No. 390091

>>389785
>huge community of transwomen
so, straight white men then? one time i tried to get involved with a dnd group that said they were mostly women but i go in there and me and the "nb femme" are the only females in the room. it's almost like they don't know how actual women in these nerd spaces get treated… also imagine unironically lacking enough personal agency and self respect to demand other people play along with your LARP. haha oof.

No. 390095

>>390063
>narcissists tooting their own horn is revolutionary
I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means.

No. 390097

File: 1553376075477.jpg (413.97 KB, 1076x1369, Nope.jpg)

Why do they even try and spread the myth that a neovagina is more pleasurable?

No. 390114

>>390097
Because men must always be better than women at everything, including having a vagina. And of course the only function of a vagina is to make penises feel good.

No. 390124

>>390097
just speculating here but wouldnt a neovag be looser or less elastic? since it doesnt have a pelvic floor

No. 390129

>>390124
Absolutely, that's why they have to keep dilating it.

No. 390130

>>390097
Of course trans vaginas are better: they have teeth! What man doesn't like teethy vag?

Seriously though, they aren't. I'm not a specialist but from what I read it's far from "AL THE POSITIONS YOU CAN IMAGINE!!!"

Is penetration even pleasurable for a trans women? They don't have clitoris or real vagina, so why would it even feel god?

No. 390131

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>>390097
>he unironically said "dialation"

No. 390136

>>390097
>Dilation allows it to size down or up to fit the partner

Yet another man who doesn't understand that the vagina is a muscle that can shrink and expand depending on the situation.

No. 390139

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>>390097
>foecal bacteria present in 79% of TW neovaginas

No. 390140

>>390124
Well, it's a gaping wound that is constantly trying to close itself so in a way it might be tight

No. 390141

Another story of a tranny making the guy look bad for rejecting them after they disclosed they are trans. They talked online, met up in person for a "sandwich" date, then I guess he told the guy shortly after that and posted the texts in this youtube video.

Gee you couldn't have said that earlier? Oh right you are the victim here once again and saying "I know how you truly are" to the guy making HIM look like a bad person.

Pathetic. They just got SRS so had a dick back then too.

No. 390142

File: 1553384546299.jpg (114.83 KB, 1065x599, tranny.jpg)

This is the text.

No. 390147

>>390141
They're men. They should know better than anyone that you can't shame men into doing anything they don't want to do (including getting into a gay relationship, but calling it something else), lmao.
They can't browbeat their own kind like they browbeat women.

No. 390149

>>390142
>I'm completely straight
>But muh feelings!!

No. 390150

>>390097
.. Straight trans women and their retarded incels vs trans "lesbians" go

Idk which is worse. They both hate us. One wants to just eliminate all women and replace us. Another wants the same but also are entitled to us as sex partners

No. 390151

>>390141
>>390142
It was a trap

No. 390157

>>390142
Oh I am laffin

"Glad I can see how you truly are"

You mean.. like a massive liar?

No. 390178

>>390097
he's got to be a virgin to spout this nonsense. if he'd actually been with a woman, he'd know for sure that what he's pushing is garbage. it's laughable to know that they truly, 100% believe a literal gaping wound is no different, if not better, than real female genitalia. it's an insulting imitation at best, and as much the same as a child's shitty drawing of the sun is to the actual sun.

i've never seen a fellow man help them with their cope before though, how nice of them to come together once again to shit all over women and put us down for existing. /s

of course doofus incels like this would think that other men can do womanhood better, because mutual bitterness and hatred. the fact he doesn't realize that the vagina is a muscle that can accommodate different sizes without getting all loose and floppy is the funniest part.

No. 390201

>>390097
I just want to add

Since he's probably a chaser aka tranny fetishist, I would guess he's not "a fan of vaginas" at all. He's helping trannies cope so he can cope with the fact that he's gay. I'd bet money the dude who said that knows his way around dicks and assholes more than vaginas and is in denial about the reality of that.

No. 390210

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Guys it gets better/worse

I didn't even realize that screenshot wasn't the full image. I just expanded it

No. 390213

>>390210
but the design it's based off is literally a natural vagina wtf, how can it be more 'perfect' than what its trying to imitate? the absolute state of troons

No. 390214

File: 1553398807077.gif (743.25 KB, 200x200, 1525409621571.gif)

>>390210
just googled neovagina and wow its mostly just studies about the disgusting reality of getting one

>Ultimately, studies reported on 1,684 patients with an overall complication rate of 32.5% and a reoperation rate of 21.7% for non-esthetic reasons. The most common complication was stenosis of the neo-meatus (14.4%). Wound infection was associated with an increased risk of all tissue-healing complications.


So even when you get one you can grow hair in it, you will likely have to get back under the knife, foecal bacteria is highly likely to be found in it.

but like he said it's just better because it's just designed

No. 390217

>>390210
"It gets wet like a vagina"????
No, it fucking does not. Penile skin does not have the ability to secrete mucus nor does male arousal occur the same way female arousal does. If anything that "wetness" is probably a mixture of sweat and urine. Fucking gross lmao

No. 390223

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>>390210
"They make it perfect"
They suuuuuuurrrrreee do.
(NSFL)

No. 390224

>>390223
Holly shit! How I regret hovering over that spoiler.

No. 390225

>>390223
Omfg I’m gonna cry TiMs are mostly shit but I still feel so bad for the ones who get surgery

Also the skin even still looks like a ballsadk and why is there 2 holes? D:

No. 390226

>>390225
>why is there 2 holes? D:
I've been wondering this too. All neovags have a weird second hole, what is it for?

No. 390227

>>390226
>>390225

For peeing, I suppose.

No. 390229

>>390227
Is it to create a "clit" for them? You know the other day, I forgot where I heard some refer to their still intact penis as a clit?

Can anyone answer the 2nd hole question?

No. 390232

>>390227
No, it's not the urethra. I'm talking about the bonus hole below the, uh, fuckhole.

No. 390233

>>390232
Oh I thought you meant the small hole above that.

No. 390251

>>390227
>>390226
>>390225
I don't know why but is reminding of the guy on reddit who had 2 dicks

No. 390258

>>390141
>>390142
Ew, cotton ceiling creeps are literally the fucking worst. What is so hard to understand that some people don't like certain genitals? Most sane people would agree that if you don't have the right parts, you're out of the dating pool. Find someone that loves you (chasers lol) instead of guilt tripping people into dating you.

I remember an article about this one tranny that was getting tired of straight boys curving her, and she mentioned an idea of a law called "Give a a girl a chance" so that you'd have to go on a date with a trans girl at least once before dumping them. Literally state enforced tranny chasing.

No. 390261

>>390258
"Being with me doesn't change your sexuality lol"

Yeah I mean my butthole is just like a pussy! And that dick and balls between my legs are feminine so if you play with them that's totally straight too LOL. In fact, it's not even a dick at all it's a clit. If I fuck you in the ass with my feminine penis/clit it doesn't make you gay/bi. I mean, some straight couples use strap-ons right? Same thing. Nothing here but a straight man and a straight woman LOL.

Oh you say you don't want to? Wow. What a transphobic, woman-hating bigot you are.

No. 390263

>>390258
>she mentioned an idea of a law called "Give a a girl a chance" so that you'd have to go on a date with a trans girl at least once before dumping them. Literally state enforced tranny chasing.
Wasn't there an incel who wanted government mandated girlfriends? This is almost the same exact shit.

No. 390276

>>390210
Lmao this fucken incel.

You know who actually makes vaginas perfect? Fucking nature. Women are born with perfect (functional, healthy) vaginas 90% of the time. What does this asshole consider "perfect" anyway? It's like saying someone has "perfect" ears or "perfect" knees.

He sounds like he's trying to sell a car. Dude, this is a human being's body part. If transitioning is "personal" and "not a fetish", then why should what their partners think sexually matter this much? Let's go down the line on all this crap. First, the nerve endings are not even remotely the same: a neoclit is just a chunk of glans, whereas an actual clitoris is the same amount of nerve endings as a WHOLE PENIS compressed into a tiny membrane. Second, it doesn't get wet "like a vagina", it gets wet like colon tissue because that's what SRS surgeons use. The normal cells in the vaginal wall respond to estrogen to lubricate, which allows the vagina to vary its lubrication based on the situation (ovulation, sex, menstruation, birth, etc)- colon tissue just lubricates at the same rate all the time, and the liquid smells gross. "Sizing up and down" isn't true at all. Once a neovag shrinks, it can't go back- it can only be maintained at whatever size it shrinks (read: heals) down to. The whole point of different positions is to stimulate the anterior and posterior fornices- which men don't have. They just have a prostate (that usually is weakened by the HRT).

The period thing isn't factually incorrect, but the way he describes it as a "hassle" for him, the male partner, is really misogynistic. Oh boo hoo, your fear of blood prevents you from fucking a woman for five days. Meanwhile, she has to put with bloating, nausea, cramps, ruined clothes, and a whole host of other things. Fuck you, it's not a hassle for you, it's a hassle for her.

No. 390278

>>390223
What quack did this surgery? Is that hole in his neo-fupa supposed to be a clitoris? That's… not even remotely where a clitoris is supposed to be. The clitoris is under the clitoral hood, which forms the vulva with the labia minora. For most women, the labia majora completely obscure the clitoral hood. The clitoris isn't just a random bump above the labia majora, the fuck. If it's supposed to be the urethera, then it's SUPER wrong. On normal women, the urethra is below the clitoris, above the vaginal opening.

Here's a thought: maybe your surgeon should be someone who's seen a normal human vagina before?!?! What madman "doctor" looked at this mess and said, "yep, that looks like a vagina"?

>>390263
Cool, so legalized rape.

No. 390283

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how male. tfw people don't entertain your delusions and have sex with you so you have to kill them

No. 390284

>>390142
>Being with me doesn't change your sexuality
it does. sexuality is based on sex. troons love to forget the fact that not everyone is some polysexual panromantic autismgender sjw who is open to fuck anyone. if a man is into both women and tims he's bisexual. two tims dating is not lesbian. a man and a tif dating is not gay, they are straight. of course you having a dick is going to be a deal breaker for a straight male or a lesbian. the guy in the screenshot was extremely nice to him compared to how most straight guys would react.

No. 390288

>>390284
I don't know what their dating life is like now and I'm not going back to their youtube channel to check, but I have a feeling now that they've had the SRS they will go into stealth mode and not tell straight men at all. Then we'll have another story like the one posted in a previous thread where the guy can tell while fucking them for the first time, or hopefully earlier for their sake just seeing it or touching it for the first time but yet they're still the victim.

No. 390290

>>390284
Yep, and those are just the rudimentary problems with dating TiMs.

The high incidence of cluster B personality disorders in troons makes them extremely toxic partners for people with anxiety disorders, depression, or histories of abuse.

Troons often don't want kids regardless of whether or not they're still fertile, which is a problem for people who want kids. Adopted kids aren't often viable either. The whole NPD thing makes most troons unfit for parenting.

No. 390292

>>390290
It doesn't help that they can't fulfill that last part of the fantasy. They don't feel "woman" enough if they can't get pregnant, or "man" enough if they can't get someone pregnant. It's the same thing with the cotton ceiling shit, if you deny one of them a date/sex it's like you're denying them their "rightful gender". There's always trannies on youtube whining that they can't get pregnant.

No. 390296

>>390210
>size up, size down to fit the partner
Proof these guys think we are just blow up dolls
A cis woman's vag uh…also does that? Because it's a muscle? It can even fit a baby out of it, or struggle to fit a tiny tampon…like a human mouth. It varies. Nope, women just have one fixed size in all circumstances, this guy is right

No. 390301

>>390142
Putting myself in the guy's position in this situation, I'm a girl. I like dick ;D. The thought of eating out a woman out grosses me out, never even tried. I want a real dick vs any strap-on or god forbid one of those corndog looking FtM dicks.

I find a "straight male" I like on a dating site and agree to meet for lunch. We spend time talking, make time in my schedule to meet them it goes well then look forward to meeting them again.

Oh by the way, I didn't tell you this but I'm transgender FtM. I have a vagina. Bitch you just led me on, duped me, and wasted my time and no I won't go out with you again. But you call me the asshole? JFC these people….

It hurts a lot and has led to a lot of rejections but I have a STD (herpes). When I disclose depends on the situation because I can still make out and do things with a guy and not pass it. But I would never make someone go out of their way to meet me THEN tell them. That's just herpes but a different sex than what you say you are? That's just fucked up.(;D)

No. 390309

>>390301
Eh idk about this analogy, herpes is way more serious since not disclosing could change that person's life forever. It's not like having sex(?) with a tranny will turn you gay, it's just a monumentally shitty thing to do to someone.

No. 390314

>>390309
I’ve heard of plenty that will insist on just anal, wouldn’t that technically be rape as they misled the sexual partner so they couldn’t actually consent?

No. 390319

>>390142
>"TRANSWOMEN GET LITERALLY KILLED WHEN THEY GO ON A DATE AND THE MAN FINDS OUT THEY'RE TRANS!!"
>guy politely turns tranny down
>tranny still screeches and acts as if it's Literal Murder™
Guess they prefer being killed then

No. 390333

The whole “having sex with a transgender person of the same sex doesn’t make you gay” just seems really regressive to me. Yeah, you’re probably gay or bi, so what? I thought we were working towards making people be more comfortable with being gay or others being gay, it just seems homophobic to act like there’s something wrong with having a vagina and liking vaginas or having. And it seems to me men like Blaire whites boyfriend are in denial.

No. 390347

Some women were briefly discussing online how they have back pain from their boobs. A TiM butts in and says something like "I feel like my boobs are still growing. Eventually I'm going to just be a giant boob."

Totally not a fetish though!

And as with most Troons this dude is a major attention whore etc

No. 390349

>>390347
I hope they get foecal matter in the neovagina.

No. 390354

>>390333
what about a gay male who is in a relationship with a TIF
would he be really in your opinion

No. 390359

>>390309
TIMs are significantly more likely to be HIV-positive compared to “cis” gay men and actual women. Something tells me that if they believe they don’t need to disclose their actual sex to a potential sex partner, they might be more cavalier about disclosing their HIV infection too.

No. 390363

>>390354
then he's bisexual. a man dating a tif can get her pregnant, a tif won't have a prostate or fully functioning dick, they are in the same biological circumstances of straight relationships, not gay relationships.

No. 390375

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/10/i-was-americas-first-non-binary-person-it-was-all-a-sham/
Maybe there's hope for them after all.

tl;dr:
>pornsick TiM with mental illness resulting from childhood trauma calls in and demands hormones "or else I'll get them off the internet"
>he gets the hormones and an easy ride, documentation changes, etc with almost no one questioning him
>he fires the one therapist who tried to get him to stop and called her a "gatekeeper", while the rest of the trans community agreed with him
>3 years into transitioning, the fantasy ends, he realizes he can't "become" a female, and that biological sex is immutable
>to escape it, he starts to call himself "non-binary" under the delusion of "bringing the third sex back to America"
>everyone buys it, doctors agree to validate him, and he gets another easy ride, birth certificate changed to read "unknown" instead of male, etc
>he gets mass support from LGBT groups throughout all this, until he speaks out against gender-confused children being mutilated and sterilized to "transition", and transgender people in the military
>they all completely mute, freeze out and ignore him as a "conservative pariah"
>he swallows some hard truths, and by January 2019, reclaims his male birth sex, saying "Two fake gender identities couldn’t hide the truth of my biological reality."

No. 390380

>>390333
They care more about their fetish of being seen as a true woman and banging totally straight dudes more than homophobia
And vice versa

No. 390424

>>390347 I once was talking to a troon I knew about how bug boobs actually kinda suck because of the back pain, clothes not fitting and bras being more expensive. He couldn't believe it. He literally thought having big boobs would be like in anime where it's all fun and dandy.

No. 390580

File: 1553482354183.jpg (108.15 KB, 960x836, girly.jpg)

#justgirlythings

No. 390606

So tired of seeing women on twitter correcting other women on their "language" when talking about women health issues because they don't want to leave out "women" who don't have vaginas. I pray to see the day women realize trans women ain't shit

No. 390680

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The women were asked to leave after being told they were not welcome at the ‘inclusive’ event at consultancy firm Accenture’s head office in London.

The group, which included a journalist, a Labour Party activist and a woman who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals, refused, telling organisers they had obtained tickets and had not interacted with anyone else in the room. A message was sent to ticket holders telling them it was open to 'everyone of all ages'

Tickets to the event were freely available to the public, with organisers Helena Pradip and Oliver Holmes of the Pride in Accenture diversity network sending a message to ticket holders which said: 'Please be reminded that this event is centred around inclusion, open to everyone of all ages.'

At the event, however, Ms Pradip told the women: “My panel does not feel comfortable with you here”.

The panel included Susie Green, head of transgender children's charity Mermaids. Hours before the event, Surrey Police released a statement saying they were no longer pursuing a case against Caroline Farrow, a Catholic mother of five after Miss Green had complained about tweets she claimed were abusive including the misgendering of her transgender child.

Mermaids encourages the reporting of online communication considered to be ‘malicious and nasty’ as hate incidents. There was no indication from organisers Miss Green was responsible for the complaint.

Devout Catholic Caroline Farrow was accused of 'misgendering' by Mermaids CEO Susie Green. Police have since dropped their investigation.t

Other members of the panel included a transgender former police officer and the chief executive of Gendered Intelligence which offers support to the trans community and consultancy on inclusivity.

One of the officers who attended Accenture’s offices told the women: “Our legal framework here is to prevent a breach of the police and that’s what you guys are going to do. We’ve been told you’re being disruptive and you need to leave the premises or we will be forced to remove you.”

Dr Long, a researcher from London, objected to the officer’s use of “guys”, saying: “Did you know that’s a hate crime nowadays to misgender someone?”

Dr Long, 54, described the police response as a “complete disgrace” adding: “We were just sitting there having a quiet chat at an open event and were asked to leave with no-one able to tell us what we’d actually done wrong.”

Dr Long was involved in a protest at last year's Pride march by lesbians claiming their rights are being eradicated by demands from trans activists. In January, she challenged a prominent transgender activist in Washington who is campaigning to increase trans rights through Congress.

She added: “Almost every meeting women have tried to hold over the past year to discuss the impact on their rights of transgender demands has been met with protest and disturbance with police offering little to no assistance to ensure women’s safety. And yet within half an hour of receiving a complaint about a trans event seven police officers were dispatched because the presence of four women was considered a threat.”

Commander Jane Gyford of the City of London Police said: “Police were called by security guards of a private property on Fenchurch Street at 18.26 on Thursday 21 March 2019. The security guards reported a group of four people who were causing antisocial behaviour and refusing to leave the property. Officers attended to assist the security guards and ensure there was no breach of the peace.”

A spokesperson for Accenture said: “Our request was based on security concerns expressed to us by participants at last night’s events. Although an unfortunate situation, we made a polite request that several individuals leave the gathering. Upon their refusal, we sought assistance.”

The women are understood to be considering legal action against the police and Accenture.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/22/seven-police-officers-sent-remove-four-women-inclusive-talk/amp/

No. 390683

>>390680
video of the incident.

No. 390692

File: 1553513319139.jpeg (140.01 KB, 794x1024, D2RImiEWwAAVGoi.jpeg)

Thread: A selection of images of a book distributed to all Grade 7 classrooms in Nova Scotia, Canada.

These students are 11-12 years old.

Transphobia: deal with it and become a gender transcender by j wallace skelton (2016)

https://twitter.com/turnthetide2018/status/1109089766082052097

No. 390695

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No. 390697

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No. 390698

>>390692
Glad to know that even rural N.S. schools that can't always get new textbooks will be included in twans indoctrination, while still suffering under budget cuts in every other capacity and sometimes lacking sport or other extracurricular for girls. Great prioritizing going on here, folks.

No. 390699

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No. 390703

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Rules for DSD/intersex athletes must not dictate transgender policy – here’s why

https://fairplayforwomen.com/dsd_sport/

No. 390704


No. 390706

>>390697
Great, we're normalizing the cotton ceiling for children now?

No. 390708

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Declaration on Women's Sex-Based Rights

On the re-affirmation of women’s sex-based rights, including women’s rights to physical and reproductive integrity, and the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women and girls that result from the replacement of the category of sex with that of ‘gender identity’, and from ‘surrogate’ motherhood and related practices.

https://www.womensdeclaration.com

No. 390724

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Getting upset over everything must be exhausting

No. 390726

>>390697
This is brainwashing and I'm surprised they used a TiF not a Tim here.

No. 390727

this video is in the sidebar of this >>390683 posie parker upload, along with a buch of other right wing conservative shit. I hate these people so much. I hate that our views intersect on this one thing (even if it's for different reasons) and that some people in our movement work with them. It's so frustrating.

No. 390730

>>390726
They probably did that because if they had a straight man going out with a tim men would have gone ballistic, but no one cares if women are coerced into sex and relatioships.

No. 390733

are any other bi women getting a ridiculous amount of troons messaging them on dating sites lately? it feels like i've been bombarded with it all of a sudden and i've never swiped for them to warrant it. they're either dressed like stereotypical hookers with jet black hair, red lips and fishnets or stereotypical weebs with stiff wigs and thigh high socks and there's no in between kek. idk if i'm biased but their messages always creep me out, especially with the "uwu" shit slapped on the end. like a man trying to write how he thinks a little girl would.

No. 390735

>>390727
samefag, I posted this before I watched the end of the video because the first two speakers unsettled me so much. I think everyone in this video has been through some shit, especially the third and forth speakers. I think my post comes off a little insensitive in hindsight. Anyway, the framing of the abuse they went through as if it's an inherent part of being gay is really disturbing.

No. 390736

>>390724
women are generally more curvy, what is his point

No. 390739

>>390730
This, and of course the correct answer has to be "don't worry honey it's totally straight, you're not one of those lesbians". Funny how they say that it's not just transphobic but also homophobic to call a girl in a lesbian relationship a lesbian, as if the word lesbian in itself is an insult.

No. 390742

>>390724
I could immediately tell this was a TIF who draws curvy softbois, and I was right.

No. 390761

>>390606
That's what makes me peak trans every time. It's vile how it's somehow become socially acceptable to shut women up about women's bodies and health issues. Everyone walks on fucking eggshells, all the female symbolism used until <10 years ago (uterus/womb imagery, mentioning the word "pussy"…) now warrants a thousand disclaimers that "O-Of course you don't have to have a vagina to be a woman!! Support our trans sisters!!" in case a manbaby somewhere on the internet has a narc rage episode and threatens sudoku. Who the fuck cares. It happened to me and I just ignored the TRAs and didn't edit anything, fuck them. Wish everyone would do the same, we wouldn't have to deal with those loons anymore.

No. 390779

>>390733
Not bi, but troons have taken over dating apps lately. See these posts from the previous thread:
>>378748
>>378753

No. 390787

>>390724
This is like, basic art. It's one of the first things people are taught. But hey, trannies like to ignore secondary sex characteristics since it tends to fuck them over. This person probably likes traps.

No. 390808

>>390680
Is there a website that keeps track of all that crazy TRA shit going on in GB?
TRAs there are happy to call the police about misgendering/radfems simply existing but will show up at women's events and harass them. There is been A LOT of that stuff happening so I wonder if there was some collected resource on it.

No. 390819

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old but still relevant

No. 390821

>>390819
Holy shit this reminds me of this troon who's in the furry webcomic scene who always drew his characters having sex in a pedophilic manner and his excuse was "I like my B I G characters and my small characters! They're adults! I also have PTSD and unresolved trauma!" Like fucking red flag right there and everyone was praising him going "Aww honey it's your art we love you no one thinks you're disgusting uwu"

No. 390822

>>390821
Everyone needs to shame these people more, if you have weird kinks that involve abuse or lack of consent you should face the maximum amount of bullying possible.

No. 390823

>>390819
I've literally never seen any tumblr SJW agree with the first 3 "fetishes" lol I usually agree with this board but I gotta admit these are some dogshit strawmen.

No. 390824

>>390823
Oh, I’ve seen people defend “rape play” vehemently on Tumblr. Agree about the other two, though.

No. 390825

>>390823
what are you talking about? the second is routinely defended and literally defended by them daily. none of them associate 'fantasy' rape with actual rape. they insist it's "just a fantasy".

No. 390826

>>390823
Dunno about the nazi thing but have you really not seen MAP supporters on tumblr? And come on, rape fetish is so mainstream and one of the most defended on tumblr

No. 390829

>>390823
obviously it's an exaggeration to point out how these people never come at straight or gay men for being into whatever fucked up shit as hard as they attack lesbians for not being attracted to tims

No. 390832

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>>390819
you know what I may some flak for this but I will defend the 3rd dude(Dressing up as a Nazi) obviously beating up your partner is unacceptable but if my bf were to suggest doing this fantasy and role play I would be open to it especially if he got a proper uniform

No. 390833

>>390823
I don't think the post was referring to SJWs, it just said "tumblr" and there's a big fetish community on Tumblr.
I have seen SJWs defending dd/lg kink though, which is as fucked as those kinks mentioned.

No. 390835

>>390832
Doesn't even remotely sound hot

No. 390837

>>390832
You sound like you're definitely not German and probably a little sheltered.

No. 390838

>>390832
OT but I feel like people that say these things have only watched bad Hollywood films where nazis have smart hair, cheesey accents and drive shiny cars. This is their frame of reference, rather than the emaciated bodies of concentration camps, or the pills of glasses taken from prisoners. Disgusting.

No. 390845

>>390838
This. Remember the six billion goyim. The most important historical event ever to take place.(racebaiting)

No. 390846

>>390837
true I'm not German
I'm also a mixed POC and my bf is also a mixed POC but he's white passing and looks like a white guy with brown hair,green eyes and a strong jaw

No. 390847

>>390832
This is not the right thread for that

No. 390848

>>390832
>>390846
Are you the same anon who shat up the radfem thread previously with your boyfriend-posting?

No one is asking you to "demurely kowtow and apologize for sleeping with the enemy", just….shut the fuck up. No one wants to hear about your boyfriend. No one cares if you're a ""mixed PoC"". No one asked about your fetishes. Degeneracy passes will not be handed out.

It's not socially acceptable, you know this. And honestly, it shouldn't be, which is why it never will be. Just keep that shit to yourself, or in a thread where it's actually the topic of discussion.
>inb4 "no, stop silencing other women! this is feminist because it's my choice uwu"

No. 390849

>>390848
Pretty sure they got banned this seems like a different person

No. 390851

>>390845
Back to /pol nazicel

No. 390856

>>390704
>only males would be in glee at tearing down shleters for vulnerable women.

Glad to read the outrage and disgust at this. More people realize what they're doing, more pushback. I'll be donating to the rape relief center soon.

>>390736
B-but anon humans being a sexually dimorphic species is bad uwu and triggering!

No. 390877

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Yoinked from r/gc:

>Paraphilic Sexual Interests and Sexually Coercive Behavior: A Population-Based Twin Study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26754158/
>Recently I came across an interesting Finnish study that looked at self-reported behaviours of people with paraphilias. What they found is that transvestic fetishism - almost universal among non-homosexual TIMs - due to its correlation with various other paraphilias is associated with increased rates of all kinds of undesirable behaviors. For example, the self-reported rate of sexually coercive behavior was 18.5% for men, 3.6% for women, and whooping 28.3% for those with transvestic fetishism (the vast majority of whom are men). Voyeurism: 18.2% for men, 6.3% for women, 39.8% for those with transvestic fetishism. Those are the guys who are obsessed with women's toilets and changing rooms. Exhibitionism: 4.3% for men, 0.6% for women, 12.4% for those with transvestic fetishism. Sadism: 2.7% for men, 2.3% for women, 11.5% for those with transvestic fetishism. Looking at this, you would actually be considerably safer in a changing room with a regular man than with a TIM. As they conclude: "paraphilic behavior among young adults in the general population increases sexual offending risk."

No. 390879

>>390877
This is definitely r/itsafetish material.
We should all share this the next time a TRA or TiM insists TiMs pose no risks to women in public bathrooms, changing rooms, etc.

No. 390883

>>390877
>Voyeurism: 18.2% for men, 6.3% for women, 39.8% for those with transvestic fetishism. Those are the guys who are obsessed with women's toilets and changing rooms

Who is surprised? We could already tell.
It's good to have a stat to show to others though. Although TIMs and their allies would argue that uwu pure transgirls are different from transvestites.

No. 390929

Have anyone worried about children & teenagers from today that transitioned early and ended up not feeling it? Will it enough to be a 'lost generation' people look back as medical malpractice?

No. 390937

>>390833
Fair enough. As soon as I see the word tumblr my mind immediately flies to sjws, so that's my bad. It's true that there are some real degenerate sexual communities on there, but I still don't think there's a huge overlap between them and anti-radfem/pro-troon sjws. I just think the post is dumb is all.

No. 390974

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this troon I follow is transitioning but he’s been begging online for his woke facelift with that fucking haircut… what a mess

No. 390979

>>390974

Okay, I'm totally going to call it a "woke facelift" now

No. 390995

>>390974
Is he dating a fake boy? lmao

No. 391026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yawM1CRWxE

has anyone posted this yet? This was partially just frustrating to watch cause some of the audience members who ask questions are so purposefully obtuse and idiotic

No. 391030

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>>390995
afaik no but who can tell if he posts shit like this. here’s one of his more obnoxious begging posts.

No. 391033

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>>391030
sorry, last one but here’s his sad tranny cone tits

No. 391038

>>391033
not that i care so much but does anyone else still have kind of similar cone tits? i see a lot of people joking about the cone tits but isn't it kind of normal? i mean the fact that they're on barrel bodied, chest haired freak men is the worst part

No. 391044

>>388424

"I have to ask. At the end of all this "TERF" screaming, what have TiMs gained from attacking and subjugating us? Where are the fruits of their labor and tirade? We women aren't the ones in control of society. Men are still killing, raping and invalidating them, not us. We were never the main threat, but they still focus on us the hardest. Why??"


There are studies (which I do have on hand, sorry) but these studies do explain that TIF are actually much less likely to be murdered than normal white men. They know this, they know that other men are not a threat to them. The only ones getting murdered are those in prostitution (who probably do not disclose to their clients that they're trans).

So yeah, from a trans perspective, the only people who are a threat to them are lesbians who won't have sex with them, and other women who refuse to go along with their delusion. Their biggest issue is getting women to have pillow fights with them and borrow lipstick.

No. 391045

>>391038
Cone tits are perfectly normal, just not on men.

No. 391047

>>391038
The thing is tranny tits won't ever mature to actual tits. They are permanently stuck in that awkward phase. Even if you as an adult woman have cone shaped breasts, they will (usually) actually be fully developed.

No. 391049

I'd unsubscribe from Google's channel if I didn't get some useful info every now and then. This just sucks. It's mockery. He looks like egghead ffs and we're supposed to take him and celebrate as a woman in tech?
I was hoping they got rid of him but nope, here he is again.

No. 391050

>>391044
We're a threat to their ideology, not a physical threat. The thing is that we aren't actually bigots, who are easy to discredit and can be used to garner sympathy. We're women, feminists, often lesbian and generally very supportive of gay rights and gnc people. Troons hide their predatory, fetishistic nature under a guise of being an oppressed minority and use SJW-fueled peer pressure to get their way, they rely on SJW support. But we actually have the ability to change their minds (unlike conservatives, the alt right etc), there are a lot of people who buy into transactivist lies but hit peak trans because of terfs having reasonable arguments. We also make people who are already questioning things more confident in speaking up. I don't have high hopes for us being able to suppress their lies because they are men and have rich, powerful backing, but still, there's a reason terfs scare them to the point of violence and aggressive silencing.

No. 391054

>>389742
So transwomen can want a vagina, as it's fine and 'validating', but if a cis lesbian DARE to want just vagina, she's a 'TERF' that should be terrorised???

No. 391063

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lol

No. 391064

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Okay, I won't post more but I thought it was funny how so many of these troons lack self-awareness. Sometimes I go through the #girlslikeus and just have some laugh.

No. 391066

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Some girl I went to high school with spends her days in the house of a rich troon and dyes her hair like him constantly, they have the same haircut and dress the same.


Wtf she was a lesbian when I knew her

No. 391071

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No. 391080

>>391064
I absolutely see a fucking man, Kristin. Bolt ons and a slutty dress doesn't make you a woman.

>>391066
I deadass read this as "going vomiting" and felt the same. It looks like the combination of all the all the parody troon images the internet has put out. The fishnet stockings, the cheap ass aliexpress $5 cosplay skirt, the nerdy t-shirt and stringy pink hair. It's all there.

>>391071
So which other niche group gets this much fucking validation and support? Like 0,001% of the population is diagnosed as trannies yet they get much more exposure than gay people, women, racial minorities, disabled people or any other demographic that was dealt the B class citizen cards. It honestly feels like it's fucking tranny celebration week all year long now.

No. 391082

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Have some laughs.

No. 391087

>>391071
Is this real? It seems absurd to put a trans flag next to the US flag, as if it represents the whole country

This is like those "brand mimics meme and fails" type posts

>you love trans people right

>so…how about this

No. 391088

>>391082
It's more concerning that their dog would be afraid of one of it's owners at all? Like pets usually make exceptions for their owners even if they hate other humans

What did you do to fluffy?

No. 391089

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>>391047

They don't appear to develop beyond stage IV on the Tanner scale which is generally 1 to 2 years after menarche.

No. 391090

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And the number of threads on Reddit about tuberous trans tits is as endless as the tweaking of estrogen and progesterone levels in an attempt to achieve the perfect breasts.

Jazz' case appears to be fairly severe.

No. 391093

>>390808

The UK based radfem groups post many news stories on Twitter.

No. 391098

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Should Mack Beggs(TIF) be allowed to wrestle with boys in your opinion
she has been trying to compete in the male competitions for a while now but as of now barred from competing in the men's division, so even though she Identities as a Transman she wrestles in the girls division and dominates it thanks to the testosterone she's taking
but she's still adamant about wanting to wrestle with males

No. 391099

>>391064
>you see a dude
I see an NFL player with those linebacker shoulders. What does he expect? He looks like a man who cross dresses on the weekend. Which is actually not far from the truth.

No. 391108

>>391071
Oh for fuck’s sake.

>>391098
She’s doping so in my opinion she shouldn’t be allowed to compete at all. Should’ve thought about that before going on hormones.
Though personally I don’t really care if she wants to wrestle men of her own volition, since unlike with TIMs in the women’s division she’s unlikely to irreperably harm her male opponents. The person most likely to get hurt is herself.

No. 391112

>>391080
What actually makes it so trans issues have such a disproportionate amount of air time?

Is it just the case that trannies are the most extremely-online demographic?

I hate how often a person gets absolutely dogpiled on various online leftists spaces for making the slightest critique of trangenderism. It makes me exhasperated knowing that navelgazing around these issues will only help to further alienate any working class people /global south proletariate from engaging with socialist political parties.

No. 391114

>>391108
>The person most likely to get hurt is herself.
I bet she will be hurt
wrestling all those muscly young men being and having them pin her

No. 391117

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Why do I even go on /cgl/ anymore? Poor trans people, needing to pretend to have dysphoria to actually get treatment for dysphoria UnU

>>391112
My theory is that they have so much power because their loudest members are the people who’ve always had the most power; straight white middle-upper class men. There also a lot of money behind the movement for pharmaceutical companies which makes it much easier to lobby politicians.

No. 391119

>>391071
It blows my mind how much the West is focusing on troons and only them, even though they're now the most privileged ""minority"". You literally get more hate for being slightly twansphobic than you'd get for being openly racist, misogynistic or homophobic.
That's why the rates of people trooning out are absolutely exploding, any woman-hating incel is jumping on the bandwagon for this get out of jail free card.

No. 391123

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I'm quite new to tinder dating. Do you think is this cotton ceiling? I do not want to date trans and I rejected this person this is the message I get.

What should I say back?

No. 391127

>>391123
Trying to reason with troons is like trying to play chess with a pigeon, anon. It will shit all over the board then strut around like it's won.

When troons bother me on Tinder or anywhere else I just say "Thanks but you're not my type! Good luck out there though!" and then ignore them. They can't accuse me of being a terven witch for that, even though we both know the real reason they're not my type.

No. 391129

>>391123
Keep engagement minimal.

"You don't need to justify anything to me, of course. I wish you all the best, have a great evening."

Then block.

No. 391131

>>391123
lol you don’t owe him a response. just say respect my decision, i’m not interested and i won’t be answering you any further.

No. 391132

>>391123
say that you're not into manipulative types of people

No. 391133

>>391127
>That's why the rates of people trooning out are absolutely exploding

any source on this?

No. 391136

>>391127
Or even better, on tinder you can just unmatch them, they won't be able to dm you again and accuse you of anything - even though I'm sure most people are able to clock them on sight and just swipe left in advance.

>>391123
Don't say anything and unmatch.

No. 391137

>>391123
This. Anything further that you say may be used against you. Just politely wish them to have a good day because nothing good will come out of this.
It's same with men on dating apps tbh, even though I try to as politely let them know that I'm not interested, they will still bother in hope that I might change my mind.

>>391136
lel, I saw on r/transgender trannies complaining about tinder and getting banned or something. And they have the audacity to complain after not disclosing they're trans in bio but they get clocked anyway and surprised that others could tell.

No. 391140

>>391137
* r/asktransgender, sorry.

No. 391143

>>391123
You don't need to justify your decision to him, he needs to learn to accept rejection and that not everyone on Earth is going to validate his gender feefees. Any variation of that could work, or better yet don't even respond. You don't owe him that either.

No. 391145

>>391123

Most people don't know I'm gender critical, so I avoid interacting with troons as much as I can. When they do approach me, I keep my rejections nice and vague but firm, the same way I would for a man I suspect will get violent if I provoke it.

Like already mentioned, saying 'You're not my type' is good. If they ask 'But how am I not your type?' just shrug and say 'I dunno, can't put my finger on it, you're just not I guess.' If they keep pushing you can say 'Why are you being so pushy? I said no, OK?'

Don't bring up the trans thing at all, they're manipulative and will twist words and move goal posts the moment you do.

No. 391147


No. 391149

Anyone else notice the same people who go out their way to make it known trans women are hotter than real women, are also hypercritical of cis women's looks and more lax if a tranny doesn't have a big butt, big perky boobs, wide hips, perfect skin, etc? Not to mention it's more acceptable if a troon has had 50 nose jobs, 3 boob jobs, 5 butt and hip jobs and takes a trip to the spa every week but cis women get judged if they were heavy makeup or use a waist trainer?

No. 391161

>>391123
Why do post op troons always feel entitled to someone's sexual attraction and feelings even if they are fundamentally unattracted to them?(pre op troons too)
>>391149
Something something, trans women will get literally murdered if they don't pass, something something

No. 391170

>>391123
Update on tinder troon I just unmatched without saying anything. Although before I said I promised him not to ghost so I broke that promise. Now she searched my Facebook and asked why did I do that? Should I reply or block? I don't want any harm in myself if I keep escaping.

No. 391171

>>391170
just block them on fb and any other media if they pop up again anon - clearly they are seeking out to harass you for persecution points and personal gain later on, as troons are wont to do

No. 391173

>>391170
If I were you I would screenshot all the interactions with this said person in case they try harassing you

No. 391178

>>391170
Typical male trying to guilt you into paying attention to him. Block him without comment and document any further attempts at contact.

No. 391198

>>391170
Wow, he moved into stalker territory pretty fast. Block him.
>she

No. 391199

>>391145
Just wanted to say that this
>just shrug and say 'I dunno, can't put my finger on it, you're just not I guess.'
is key. Troons are hyper paranoid about their troonery, so keeping them calm as possible is the best thing you can do. I know someone who had a similar experience and the troon escalated it quickly, though in her case this was a face to face situation at a job.

It's a smart idea to have a set of phrases one can say to them to de-escalate the situation because their first instinct is to go balls to the wall rage due to the narcissistic injury, which is not a pleasant thing to be the focus of.

No. 391202

There are so many troons on Tinder, I'd say it's a good quarter when I checked recently under just women. Some of them out themselves as autogynephiles(sissies) and others are straightup cis looking men saying "Lesbian. NO penises!" I've given up looking for girlfriends there.

No. 391204

Episode 12, in which Jazz enthuses, "Before I know it this procedure will be complete and my vagina will be beautiful and life will be good!"

No. 391206

>>391170
What a creep.

Reply with something like "I don't feel we're compatible. Please leave me alone, you're making me feel scared."

Then block.

Hopefully you saying you feel threatened will shock the creep back to reality. If not, you can screenshot the conversation as proof of harassment.

No. 391207

>>391198
I tried to say he (see the first pronoun in that post) but I slipped off because I've been talking to tran issues with my trans supporting friends lately.

Pic later if anyone wants

>>391199
We basically talk and we decided to meet up tomorrow a few days back. However he came out to me as troon And I just said that's probably my type if we wanted to go further and asked me if it's genital that I was worried. He was blunt with me so I got a bit blunt back then he rammed me with this..

No. 391208

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https://www.comicsands.com/pennsylvania-student-transphobic-federal-complaint-2632370212.html?utm_content=inf_10_3759_2&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=GTAK&tse_id=INF_3ccdf1404f4811e9b433ab68d22425b2
has this article been posted? It’s batshit insane. And George Takei strikes me as a creep for that caption

No. 391209

>>391207
Just curious, but was he particularly well-passing? (as in well-shooped, lol)
Of all the troons I've seen on dating apps, not a single one was unclockable enough to fool me into even just swiping right

No. 391211

>>391209
I thought he might be troon after he said he likes moshpit (it's fun but as a woman I got pushed down fast) his pics but he could pass as a dumpy looking woman. It's mostly camera angle though

He's kinda 'could be troon but my aunt looked like that too' type. It's mostly the desc that lured me in.

No. 391216

>>390974
Oof that Amélie haircut is doing him NO favors.

No. 391220

>>391170
block and ignore. screenshot the messages.

No. 391222

File: 1553632532917.png (873.29 KB, 800x1073, Screenshot_2019-03-26-13-20-48…)

When you see a post or get an email like [pic related] from a company or organization you like and respect, do you hold your breath as you scan the photo and read the text in anticipation of being let down, and then breathe a sigh of relief when it checks out?

Do you put your money where your feminism is?

No. 391224

>>391208
Takei is a creep, wasn’t he outed by a younger gay man when #metoo was picking up for being very predatory? Does he still have fans after that?

No. 391225

>>391222
No offense, but what are you even talking about?

No. 391227

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This shit writes itself.

No. 391229

>>391225
It’s pretty obvious she’s just asking if you’re always expecting tranny bullshit whenever you seem something that’s supposed to be about women

No. 391236

>>391222
are you the autist from the last thread who wouldn't stfu about your shitty facebook memes?

No. 391238

>>391071
that trans flag looks so cheap and tacky next to the American flag lol. OT but I hate it when people buy flags/folded fabric and don't put any effort into getting the folds out, fucking iron that shit.

No. 391250

>>390697
>dating trans is okay :) but being a lesbian should be feared, you dont want your friends to think that, right?

No. 391258

I'm loving the /cisles/ tread on /lgbt/.

They made a discord where you have to verify your female voice and troons are having a FIT because they can't pass to enter

No. 391259

>>391258
What, are there actual lesbians on /tttt/? Don't they get banned by their tranny mods?

No. 391265

>>391259
They only have a general thread where they talk about their shit there

No. 391268

https://mobile.twitter.com/SerenaSonoma/status/1110659967068049413

This tim seems like an absolute psychopath. (Didn't screen grab bc of video)

No. 391272

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Stunning

No. 391276

>>391268
uhhh, and how exactly do they expect to be able to get a womb transplant? it's one thing giving someone a transplant that has the existing structure to support one that isn't diseased or something, but just giving a dude a working uterus won't be a thing for forever. that's going to be incredibly difficult. damn, tims are so simplistic and stupid. meanwhile, plenty of them hold prestigious well paying positions on account of being fucking dudes. the glass elevator is so fucking real.

we can't even reverse greying or balding yet but dudes expect to be able to have a functioning uterus soon, kek, ok

No. 391286

>>391258
the reality is these blokes can never pass to enter a lesbian space, unless they start screaming "terfs!!! vagina fetishists!! genital preferences kill transwomen!!". you can get 8373893 botched facial feminization surgeries but you'll always have a manly or a tryhard helium voice that no actual woman normally has. the "you can never know what my chromosomes are" thing is a meme. most people can look at you and tell that you're a man by your face, bone structure, hands, shoulders.

No. 391291

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Lmao @ "phlight"

No. 391297

>>391227
And yet libfems will still defend pornsick men over women.. Astonishing. Wouldn't porn be the transphobic thing for them. Trannies are literally a fetish in it

>>391276
Biology and sexual dimorphism aren't troons friends.

No. 391304

>>391291
>phlight
>old adage war
Can they just stop trying to sound smart?
Aside from that, at least this one is using his fellow (black) trannies as a weapon instead of bringing up black women as a way to liken his struggle to racism.

No. 391308

>>390263
I was going to say the same thing lol, incels push this woman-should-be-forced-to-date-me-by-law shit all the time, its pathetic.

No. 391322

>>391258
Why the fuck would they want to enter a discord with cis lesbians anyway? Wouldn't that be too uwu invalidating :'(((( for them?

No. 391324

>>391322
it's because they feel entitled to every female space, and god forbid that there are lesbian servers that they can't have access to

No. 391328

why did the t become a part of lgb anyway? it's so different than being attracted to the same gender. you can understand gays and lesbians coming together since they fight for the same rights like same sex marriage, what does trans havw to do with anything? is it because being gay and trans tend to collide?

No. 391329

>>391322
Lesbians are the ultimate trophy for them, notice how they're never as angry at straight men for not fucking them? All they want is the mythical lesbian pussy, the greatest prize of all.

No. 391333

>>391329
it's fucking rapey, why are they so obsessed with the idea of fucking someone who clearly isn't attracted to their sex? you don't see troons barking at straight men for being vagina fetishists as often as you see them coming at lesbians as if it's their job to validate their uwu femaleness.

No. 391334

>>391333
Because it means they've "made it" as women if a woman who only has sex with other women is willing to have sex with them.

No. 391336

this is an old video but holy shit does this remind me of some witch hunt

https://twitter.com/Womans_Place_UK/status/977243562076200962

No. 391341

>>391112
>>391117

I think it's this and the fact that dudes (straight and white extra but really, all dudes) aren't and don't feel threatened by the trans movement. They're not vulnerable the way women are, esp. lesbians, but all women – both in the sense of "letting males into intimate spaces" sense but also, no one's spending as much time trying to convince men that actually, they're not a coherent group, and they have no shared history or movement, and "man" means "whoever identifies as a man" etc. Like, yes, I know trans men pull this a little more now, but lbr, they will never have the force and socialization will always keep them from doing it the way trans women do.

I know so many "good" "lefty" """"feminist"""" men to whom it's like being gay – "well who are they hurting???" and they're already inclined, even if they don't think they are, that women are hysterical lying crybabies and lesbians are cruel heartless bitches. So trans stuff asks nothing of them, and makes them seem like an extra good person if they support it. They stand to lose nothing and gain everything. Women are screwed over, but who's ever given a shit about that.

No. 391343

>>391291

Like this pansy ass baby could last one day in an actual black women's life, lol. They have no concept how much of a woman's life is just thankless fucking work

No. 391348

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Do they ever stop lying

No. 391350

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>>391071
Even though I dislike Trump, I totally agree. The left need to get their shit together, badly.

No. 391355

>>391350
Tangentially related, I didn't know too much about her so I looked her up and apparently Camille Paglia identifies as trans, but from what I can tell she's a ~cis~ female. She doesn't use male pronouns or anything?? So she's basically a fakeboi.

No. 391367

>>391348
>I can't believe we live in a world.
Neither can I.

No. 391368

>>391355

Im pretty sure she means gender nonbinary female. She just isn't up to current lexicon on this stuff.

"Although I describe myself as transgender (I was donning flamboyant male costumes from early childhood on), I am highly sceptical about the current transgender wave, which I think has been produced by far more complicated psychological and sociological factors than current gender discourse allows."

No. 391381

File: 1553662546625.jpg (136.54 KB, 1080x1801, 20190327_005243.jpg)

Inspirational quotes from tranny hookers.

No. 391385

>>391368
Ah ok, GNC female makes a lot more sense.

No. 391408

>>391224
A male feminist who shields trannies is a predatory creep? Color me surprised.

Personal rant: A twitter mutual recently came out as nonbinary. She's super feminine, likes traditionally feminine stuff, straight as a nail, specifically said that her "gender presentation doesn't decide her gender" so she's well aware of it too. She's in her mid 20's so she's not exactly a young twerp either. Will this crazy train ever stop moving?

No. 391410

>>391408
every nonbinary girl I've known has been very into performing femininity and acts more stereotypically feminine/bubbly than everyone else, it's strange

No. 391411

File: 1553673216132.gif (1.54 MB, 400x236, bodysnatchers.gif)

>>391336
They're shouting "terf" like some sort of alarm signal and it's horrifying.

apparently the yelling TIM has assaulted somebody before, noice

No. 391414

>>391329
Because they're straight men themselves. Why would they want to get fucked by straight men.

No. 391420

>>391411
Yeah it's the guy who attacked the woman at speakers corner. I think his name is Tara wolf

No. 391423

Just noticed the profiles of troons on Tinder. Most of them have it goes about geeky hobbies, which is not wrong on its own but they seem to boast that so hard. DnD, anime, gamer girls "I am soo quirky and socially anxious" with dyed pastel 'cute' hairstyle. Really creepy smile accompanied

Most geeky real women might snuck it in their profile and they can talk about it but they usually feel more like they have a life outside of that.

Almost that they're kind of clones in that regard and I wonder what internet has spawned.

No. 391434

>>391414
There's HSTS, aka gay men, as well as AGP

No. 391452

>>391423
I agree, but if i might add: most geeky no-life gamer women keep it hidden, it's not a trait commonly sought after. For troons though it's another part of the fantasy.
>>391348
>physically
kek, never

No. 391462

File: 1553691919958.png (113.76 KB, 1222x596, 9.png)

i've never rolled my eyes so hard. they put themselves above literally everything.

No. 391471

>>391322
Because their NPD brains can't fathom the idea of not being included in something: everything has to be about them, everything. Even if they're not really interested.
If you made a group about people pulling grass off the ground and taking pictures of it as a hobby, and said the group was meant to be trans-free, you'd get a group of trannies out of your door picking a fight to be let in in a heartbeat.

No. 391474

>>391462
oh fucking hell. I can't believe I used to stan these deluded freaks. Next they'll be saying it's worse than cancer.

No. 391497

>>391474
Well there was that one TIF on twitter complaining about breast cancer patients being prioritised over TIFs for mastectomies…

No. 391500

the endometriosis fb group i'm in has been inundated by TIFs complaining that the group is too ~woman focused~. it's so fucking infuriating to see the handmaidens playing into their bs

No. 391508

>>391500
Pls show caps

No. 391556

>>391500
>endometriosis
>too women focused
What's next to target? Birthing classes and pregnancy groups too woman focused? Jfc

Tinfoil but who else was or still is suspicious about the whole drag makeup trends. Thick IG brows, full face, thick lashes, Kim K contouring and highlighting etc. It came up around the time tras really started to push themselves forward. But my theory is that it was all planned for women to start looking like made up men aka drag queens so troons would have a shot at not being so easily clocked in public. I'm talking about ones like Nikita Dragun and Eden the Doll. If women start to really push for natural plain beauty, they couldn't pass whatsoever.

No. 391566

>>391462
i'm probably reading into this too much but i love that a disorder that primarily affects women is "no longer the most deadly" because men are having their feelings hurt.

No. 391571

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>>391556
I'm seeing a lot of girls and young women in my city going back to a much more natural look. Drag brows are disappearing and there's so much less contouring and highlighting going on. It's definitely leaning towards pic related.

No. 391572

>>391571
Make-up definitely goes in cycles from natural to very exaggerated back to natural back to exaggerated and the troon craze has got big in the middle of an exaggerated cycle. Once it properly cycles back to natural we're going to start seeing thinkpieces on how women not wearing a ton of make-up is actually twanzphobic.

No. 391575

>>391572
lol, they can cry man tears all they want, it'll still suck to be them when it happens. I'm not a big fan of makeup, mostly because I'm lazy so I only get to look 'current' when the trend swings back to 'natural'.

No. 391584

>>391462
gender dysphoria is deadliest because of suicide rates or what? Also if they're going by suicide rates wouldn't schizophrenia be the 'deadliest'?
(sage bc I could be wrong but I thought schizophrenia had the highest attempts and suicides)

No. 391597

>>391584
Around 40% of people with schizophrenia attempt suicide at least once, and the statistic is roughly the same for troons, so you're right, anon.

10% of people with schizophrenia commit suicide.

However despite information on how many troons attempt suicide being both widely available and commonly reported, I can find absolutely no statistics on how many of them succeed. At all.

For context, the mortality rate for anorexia is 20%. This figure includes both deaths from starvation and from suicide. Without suicide factored in, the rate is 10%.

Suicide attempts in anorexia patients, if you don't include the starvation itself, are on average 60%. So basically, the troon is wrong.

No. 391598

What does anyone thinks of this?

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-47706818/online-pornography-age-checks-for-uk-web-users

Seems like a good idea to me, trying to barr people from watching porn.

No. 391600

>>391597
Every study I’ve seen claiming high trans suicide attempt rates used self-reported data, which does suggest that their success rate probably isn’t very high.

No. 391602

>>391598
I think it's a bad idea for one reason: I don't trust the government to possess private information like that and use it ethically.

No. 391604

>>391600
interestingly, the self-reported suicide attempt rates in the u.s and canada are 48% and 43% respectively.

in china it's 12%. now, china obviously has a huge stigma around suicide so that could be a factor but these surveys are all completely anonymous.

No. 391605

>>391604
double posting but another revealing statistic: among the 48% attempt rate for the u.s, ftms make up 50%. mtfs make up 30%. the remainder are non-binary, who are usually female.

guess which sex has higher suicide attempt rates in the general population? that's right: females.

No. 391606

>>391602
If people don't want to give info, they would not watch porn anymore

No. 391620

>>391556

I once had a troon have the audacity to tell me he wanted to petition the government to change the terms:
"midwives" to "midworkers"
"maternity wards" to "birthing wards"
"womens hospitals" to "family hospitals"

No. 391622

>>391598
All authoritarians must hang, that's what I think

No. 391626

>>391622
you sound dumb

No. 391627

>>391620
> "midwives" to "midworkers"
The second some troon gets introduced to me as my "midworker" I will throw a fit and start a fucking petition. Maybe I can even work in some "think of the children" since women don't seem to be worthy of protection from fetishists.

No. 391629

>>391627
I was thinking the exact same thing. Midworkers would absolutely be the straw to break the camels back.

Then again, that gets said about a lot of things TRAs do.

No. 391638

>>391620
i love that they petition so hard to get rid of female centric terms under the guise of it being outdated and non-inclusive, but getting rid of male centric terms is seen as a non-issue or a joke that nobody genuinely cares about, like the gingerbread person shit. it's like how they expect female bathrooms to be gender neutral, but nobody gives a shit about the men's.

i wish they'd just say what they're really feeling: they hate women and are bitter, nothing the handmaidens do for or give to them will ever be enough. they could take out their womb and hand it over on a silver platter and troons would still ask for more.

No. 391668

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>>391620

The push for "inclusive language" in midwifery started in 2014.

https://mana.org/healthcare-policy/use-of-inclusive-language#

No. 391669

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>>391627
hopefully you'll put paid to the notion of a troon catching your firstborn on the way out the door? they can't 'midwork' if you never hire them.

No. 391670

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HarryTheOwl has run afoul of the UK thought crime law hate incident policy again.

https://twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1110503943245688832

No. 391671

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No. 391707

>>391671
That’s ridiculous. Seriously, since when has „you’ve upset someone“ warranted a call from the police? People get upset all the time, tims are just mad that they’re the butt of the joke for once.

No. 391712

>>391707
If only rape victims had police trying as hard to catch and prosecute their rapists as they do for trannies getting their feefees hurt on the internet. I hope this bullshit doesn't spread to the US.

No. 391724

>>391423
They think social anxiety = femininity points because girls are cute and shy right uwu It's also the root cause for a lot of TiMs because everything that can be considered as some sort of a weakness is seen as feminine, so when you have a quiet, shy man he just MUST be a pussy and a girl.

>>391600
Wasn't the suicide rate meme conceived by a study that counted all self-reported self-harm and self-destructive thoughts as a part of the calculated suicide rate? I remember reading the study and thinking to myself that the TRAs who shill the numbers from this one probably haven't.

No. 391725

>>391670
>>391671
>Why do you have the need to voice your opinion which is also a scientific fact?
lmfao it's literally the thought police in the GB. It's ridiculous, they have no resources to defend a battered wife from a stalker husband threatening to kill her, or track down a serial rapist, but harassing people over relatively harmless tweets? Better go kick that door down and make some arrests!

No. 391730

>>391725
I have an online friend from Yorkshire (same police force as the ones harassing that guy) who was raped by her ex-boyfriend. When she reported it they basically told her they couldn't do much since she hadn't had a rape kit done after it happened.

They can spend all day harassing people for not licking the boots of troons though.

No. 391734

Will this gender insanity going to end soon? I wonder what it will look like if in 30 years in the future they look back at our media today trying to pander with non-binary and genderspecials characters with 'labels'.

I don't think it'll be like youth subcultures or political movement in the latter half of 20th century.. will it be?

No. 391738

>>391734
It will be thought of as equivalent to lobotomies or conversion therapy. The political stuff is bad enough but the medical malpractice that is SRS or letting kids transition will really be what turns public opinion imo.

No. 391740

>>391734
Once it really hits the mainstream media and normie women will be exposed to the menstruator/womb carrier shit it'll be done for. For now it's mainly lesbians who have to suffer for this shit but it's going to leak over at some point. It's been going way too far way too fast with no scientific merits, it's not going to last. Like >>391738 mentioned, it's very similar to lobotomy. It was also a money-grubbing medical practice that exploded in popularity and was enforced whenever possible, threatening everyone with the high suicide rates of mental patients who wouldn't go through it. Of course the press was telling everyone how it works 100% and makes the patient a lot happier, when in fact some cases gained brain damage so severe they couldn't perceive the outside work and kept being giddy. And we know how well that trend ended.

No. 391741

What fucks me up that once this shit is over all the bastards who kept pushing it will hide under the rocks and act as if they didn't do anything. Imagine, there will be a generation of people who can bond over the fact that they sexually harassed lesbians online but once they get fed up with their queerlarping they can just return to live their straight lives and perhaps chuckle a little bit about their "silly teenage phase" while they leave people to clean up their mess. It infuriates me.

No. 391742

>>391741
And worst of all people will most likely blame it on the evil feminists and gay/lesbian people who pushed the narrative, when it was all perverted straight men who were responsible for driving the movement.

No. 391743

When you research the lobotomy it's actually shocking how many similarities there are.

>They called it surgically induced childhood, and claimed it was like having a second childhood patients would eventually mature past.

Troons constantly claim HRT is like a second puberty.

>They performed them on more women than men

As trans gains steam, clinics like Tavistock have reported much much higher rates of "AFAB" patients.

>The lobotomy was rapidly accepted and used often, despite nervous criticism from a minority of medical professionals

Exactly the same for trans.

>It was claimed that the lobotomy was the best solution because otherwise people would undergo terrible suffering and eventually commit suicide

Exactly the same for trans.

The main thing that led to lobotomies falling out of favor was the rise of pharmecutical drugs… and the medical community being able to get greater profit from those. HRT, of course, requires you to be on it for life to continue working, essentially making you a captive customer.

No. 391744

>>391741
sage for blogging

It's something I lost a friend I had for years over. gay boy TIF (straight girl), not yet medically transitioned but she goes by the philosophy of 'people made mistakes too!', which is nice but she never owns or feel guilty of any bad things she did and it's always someone else fault.

The kind of type that go into keyboard wars and acting smug. But using 'I'm female-bodied' in an argument when it's convenient.

Yes, I hate how that queerlarping people got all attention and face no repurcussion when things stopped being trendy.

No. 391745

With "misgendering" becoming illegal in Canada and the UK, what do you all think the next big push from troons will be?

I'm willing to bet they'll try to make it illegal to reject them for sex, by arguing that if a lesbian rejects a MTF she's misgendering him.

No. 391748

>>391742
I wonder if it's possible since we have so much evidence of troons's homophobia. I at least have spend years saving screenshots of troon homophobia, maybe it's stupid but I want to save them for the future that if/when shit hits the fan there is all that stuff to remind people what was going on.

No. 391749

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"Trans women age better than cis women!"

Lauren Harries, 41, transitioned as a child.

Harries is the same age as Liv Tyler, January Jones and Sarah Michelle Gellar.

I'll let you come to your own conclusion.

No. 391757

>>391745
I don’t think any western country is going to make it legal for them to rape women, regardless of mysogninistic we still are.

My bet is either
A) kids will be taken away from parents that refuse to transition them ‘for their own safety’ (while legitimately abused children continue to be neglected)
B) no one will be willing to fire trannies in fear of being slapped with heavy ‘discrimination’ fines
C) women begin to be phased out of pregnancy. And I don’t mean just the language like it is currently, but the majority of obstetricians, midwives, and sonographers will be replaced by either troons or just straight up men

No. 391758

>>391749
Gross, who even says they age better? Lmao
Troons would say you’re cherry picking though

No. 391759

>>391749
No he had his dick cut off in 2001, I looked it up.

No. 391760

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This is him with his "husband". All troons should date amongst themselves.

No. 391761

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Nightmare fuel…

No. 391762

>>391759
You realize there's more to transition than having your dick cut off right? Harries has been on HRT since his teenage years.

No. 391763

>>391762
Ah fair enough, Wikipedia just didn't mention that.

No. 391767

>>391749
I don't know what I can say but his face came across as… very strange, like not really human.

And no, both 'cis' men and women look better at this age

No. 391770

>>391761
>>391760
So how does Sex-Work
does she a Use a Strapon and fuck him or dose he use his Penis for fuck her

No. 391771

>>391749
>41
Holy shit is this what HRT does to you?? I know it's known to shorten your lifespan but there's no way in hell that person is less than 75.

No. 391773

>>391771
Same happens to TIFs
a lot of female athletes in Eastern Bloc countries who were doping with testosterone suffered from complications in later life and most of them died when they were in their mid to late 50's
same result is expected to happen for TIF's

No. 391776

>>391771
When I was having my troon phase what helped me to re-identify was meeting other troons in real life and seeing how old and sickly they looked. Maybe they were just really unhealthy bunch or something but I just thought "is THAT what I'm going to end up looking like if I start hormones?", they looked uncanny valley.

No. 391794

>>391776
One common thing troons that haven't transitioned yet but neck deep in the ideology say is that they'd rather live a happy life hooked on medications and complications than to have dysphoria. But like you said, they really do look sickly and uncanny. Maybe if they can accept that, but I find it very tragic in a way you see shriveled down drug addicts on the street. Of course aren't they happy taking what they're taking?

It's just sad really, in almost a black comedy way.

No. 391798

>>391556
I hope everyone saw the teaser trailer for nikita dragun's makeup line. Gives me big second life troon vibes, absolute nightmare fuel.

No. 391799

>>391798
who's going to tell nikita that he'll never have this body because it's not a woman or a normal human's body. this is an uncanny valley alien.

No. 391800

>>391749
Looks like a distant cousin of Jazz's alien grandma. ACK! ACK!

>>391760
>>391761
Christ, these pictures are scary. This is straight out some Junji Ito material. Look at his weird deformed body. The way it bends, the lump on his back… dios mio

No. 391812

>>391798
Totally not a fetish, though!

No. 391828

Thoughts on 'straight' FTMs? My best friend is the only FTM I've met who isn't a fujoshi.

No. 391832

>>391828
Of all troons they're the most bearable. Some of them are even willing to criticize MTF and fakeboi shit.

No. 391834

>>391828
they are more chill than the sjw and fujo tifs but i've seen so many of them tending to be misogynistic and lesbophobic

No. 391836

Socially conscious beauty in 2016
>let's end photoshopping!
>no more unrealistic body ideals!
>any body can be a beach body!
>ethically conscious products!

Socially conscious beauty in 2019
> >>391798 literally IMVU!
>I felt self conscious about my body so a realised I was a man!
>lip injections and pad for the gods hunty!
>this youtuber palette comes with a pound of sequins and plastic just as packaging do you know it's quality!

Barf

No. 391837

>>391408
>>391410
I guess non binary is the new "I'm not like other girls uwu"

No. 391841

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jk rowling is cringey for other reasons but she's based when it comes to tranny bullshit. so funny people are trying to cancel her for liking this post and comparing trannies in women's prisons to roosters in a henhouse when she's absolutely right. people try to silence gender crit women so hard. so misogynistic

No. 391842

>>391841
i am in love with the term brocialist. but tbh i would never positively reference jkrowling for anything. she trumps out on twitter almost constantly.

No. 391844

>>391842
if trannies (especially TiMs) had any aesthetic sense, they would have known how to groom and dress as men and remained men since they would fit in well enough to not act out as fake women.

No. 391845

>>391828
I feel like homosexual trans ('straight') are generally saner than straight troons, they used to be the majority of transsexual until gendercult boom. May hold homophobic and crazy views but they feel pleasant and have actual social skills.

I'd rather not see them transition though.

.. I wonder why most straight troons (fujoshit included) nowadays look like they have no social skills and act like if real life is like anime and video games?

No. 391846

>>391798
This is so low-quality. If you're going to go for CGI when it comes to anything professional, it better be high quality movie-tier or high budget video game shit, not your fucking IMVU character with a broken spine and mammoth hips. Final Fantasy level graphics or better. We're not so nostalgic for old Playstation 2 games that we even like the cheapest, shittiest graphics possible.
Trust trannies to have no aesthetic sense, I guess. And you just know that disproportionate, hideous body is what "Nikita Dragun" wishes he looked like. Only a pornsick AGPer would think that looks anything but grotesque, lmao. It's like he's been so deprived of some much-needed kink-shaming and embarrassment for so long, he thinks it's a good idea to use the avatar he used to have cybersex with neckbeards in MMOs for makeup ads.

No. 391847

>>391842
a stopped clock is right twice a day.

No. 391850

>>391845
>.. I wonder why most straight troons (fujoshit included) nowadays look like they have no social skills and act like if real life is like anime and video games?
true point. tims who are into women and tifs who are into men are usually socially inept as fuck and have no idea how the sex they are trying to pass as are.

No. 391856

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I don't know how much of this is true, but from what I've observed it's true that HSTS tend to pass better than transbians (they still look like troons, but look less gross than transbians). I wonder why

No. 391860

>>391834
>>391828
From what I've seen a lot of the fujo FTMs are gay only with other FTMs so it's just basically internalized lesbophobia&misogyny and coping. Like everyone knows a ton of fujos are lesbians, but the media mostly shows lesbians as boring butch stereotypes compared to the sassy quirky gay stereotype so young girls would rather turn into gay males like all the cultural icons they have at their reach.

>>391841
I wonder how come she's otherwise so ~woke~ with her bullshit all the time but didn't go with the tranny craze?

No. 391869

>>391856
I grew up in a place with a lot of HSTS TIM, troonbians were unheard of. I'd say it's partly true and while they can have overdone performative feminity and their kind of annoyingness. You can have an interaction with them like a normal human being and don't get creeped out for some inherent creepiness AGO have.

They tend to take care of their appearance more, that's one big difference when it comes to passing. It's sad they have to transition after all, it's a harmful worldview although a few years back a lot of HSTS generally accept that they were not 'real women'.

I don't know about average IQ point though. Why are lonely agp incels are so obsessed with IQ.

No. 391870

>>391856
>troons possess a high IQ

lol k

No. 391871

>>391860
wouldn't that be bisexual? would an actual lesbian really be into watching two dudes banging?
you have a point and there are fakebois that fit into what you're saying but i think most of these fujos who troon out are autoandrophile and celibate straight girls who consume way too much bl they end up wanting to become an actual bottom gay stereotype. it's like these hentai obsessed weeb incels who think they are going to become a cutesy anime girl after one estrogen shot and putting on a dress.

No. 391873

>>391856
This is really telling lol. Gay men don't have a huge dating pool so they try to resemble a female enough to get some men hooked. Straight men, on the other hand, keep being typical straight men.

No. 391876

>>391871
>>391860
Weirdly, the first fujo TIF I've seen is dead straight, always pinning for a cis guy and loves dick. For some reason she's recently got a 'previously straight' bf and I didn't know how that even work. They met in DnD group and how she told me she never thought people could like her so it's probably desperation on both side.

Lesbian fakebois do exist, but I feel like they're the more popular ones who latched on the trend for attention and not exactly the socially inept type that's closer to the majority of fujo fakeboi population.

No. 391879

>>391856
I'd say this is pretty accurate other then Farrah Moan who is a drag queen and not a tranny being included in this.

No. 391881

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>>391856
>>391879
They also forgot about one of the most famous AGP TS

No. 391882

http://kittyit.tumblr.com/post/177744771682/kittyit-there-is-currently-a-video-going-around

This is literally some man's corrective rape fantasy.

>You call us trans-identified males? What kind of lesbian thinks about men so much? If you ask me, it sounds like you might be a little bi. A little bit curious.

No. 391893

>>391882
Holy fucking shit that video seems so disturbing. I don't even want to watch it. It reads like one of those hypnosis videos but except for "girlcock" conversion, christ.

No. 391909

>>391882
This is just straight-up cope. He wishes the things he claims were the case, and because he sexualizes everything about actual women, this ridiculous fantasy came naturally to him. It's a form of self-therapy, at this point. "Those evil TERFs totally want to fuck me as much as I want to fuck them!!".

>You little TERF, I bet you wish you could be here, right at my feet, worshipping my body. I bet it’s all you think about as you sit on this website and watch your tr** videos and obsess and get angry and get wet and get sexually frustrated. I bet this video is a godsend to you. I bet you’re gonna watch it, it’s gonna make you come, you’re gonna get your panties all wet, and then you’re gonna go on Twitter and get mad because a woman like me made a lesbian like you come. (laughs) You’re pathetic.


The fact that he attributes rage and dislike to sexual frustration just highlights how male he really is. It calls to mind that one screencap of the guy from the "sissy recovery" subreddit going on about how much he hates femdom, hates female porn stars and feels "raped" by them, even though he's the one who obsesses over them. It's nearly always men who have this psychosis where they simultaneously want to kill everything/everyone they want to fuck.
Unironically, this would only ever work on a man. In his bid to "own the TERFs ;)))", he's reminding us all why his kind are so disgusting and abhorrent.

No. 391935

>>387259
>>391812
I'm not the only one grossed out by now Nikita keeps saying "don't worry, I'm going to be laying more eggs," in regards to the first makeup batch selling out, right? I know sex sells, but this just feels unnecessary and gross.

No. 391937

>>391909
lol trying desperately to spread his disease to women who don't want him in their space, good luck dude. what does he even think this is? terfy hypno? so embarrassing. this is the edge of madness, stay away from him, you know he's on the verge of snapping.

No. 391938

>>391882
He looks like a vogon in drag… Disturbing

No. 391947

>>391882
lmao i'm a masochistic dumbass yet this was extremely vomit inducing and hilarious. this is borderline straight male's conversion therapy talk. no terf or lesbian wants your obnoxious ass, i really doubt that anyone would get off to this other than closeted incels with sissy fetishes.

No. 391949

>>391947
He usually makes sissy hypno videos for men and other troons.

Because he's a man he doesn't realize that hypno fetish is a 100% male thing, and doesn't work on women. Seriously, I've seen women with all sorts of weird kinks but never ever have I seen a woman with any sort of hypno fetish.

No. 391963

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No. 391967

>>391963
Ew wtf

No. 391968

Sucks that a story like this comes from such a conservative source but I am still grateful the issue is gaining traction.

"The Equality Act sacrifices female safety in restrooms, locker rooms and even domestic-violence shelters."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-transgender-war-on-women-11553640683?mod=e2fb

No. 391973

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>>391882
disgusting

No. 391984

>>391973
i legitimately thought this was matt christman. ginger men have to be 700% more likely to troon out than men of any other hair color

No. 392008

>>391973
Why is this person reminding me of Clancy Brown?

No. 392012

>>391882
I'm a straight woman and this make me dry-heave. Lesbia–Sorry, I mean "TERFs" I feel sorry for you.

No. 392021

>>391973
jesus what a disgusting subhuman

No. 392028

>>391973
Of course, a fucking brony.

Why is it illegal to cull these kind of men?

No. 392029

>>391973
Even Buffalo Bill looked less ugly.

No. 392033

I objected to being called afab by one of my friends and she asked me why and I said because I'm female and my sex was assigned. She told me the lingo was helpful which?? Makes no sense to me

Why is that these people will shit themselves if you try to define them but the moment you object to a label forced upon yourself you're in the wrong

No. 392034

>>392033
Wasn't*

No. 392035

>>392033
i don't get what you're trying to say.

No. 392043

>>391949
I've met a TIF with a hypno fetish. She went on about how she hated all the rape in hypno, it was weird.

No. 392055

>>392043
>hypno fetish
>but I don’t like rape!!

What else is supposed to happen in a hypno fetish sesh though..?

No. 392059

>>392035
Maybe lurk more? I understood what they were saying.

No. 392062

Probably the best passing one I have seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QLPjUR3FzU

No. 392068

>>392062
the voice is actually okay but damn that jaw doesn't fool anybody

No. 392104

>>391968 Article behind paywall. Can someone post the text?

No. 392116

>>392035
>friend calls anon afab
>anon says she does not want to be called that
>anons friend says why
>anon says because she is female and her sex wasnt assigned
>friend said the lingo (afab) is helpful
>anons face when

No. 392124

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>>391968
>>392104

The Transgender War on Women

The Equality Act sacrifices female safety in restrooms, locker rooms and even domestic-violence shelters.

By Abigail Shrier

March 26, 2019 6:51 p.m. ET

It has become rightly fashionable to ridicule the idea of “safe spaces,” places where adults can hide and sulk like children avoiding ideas they find threatening. But women need actual safe spaces—not from intellectual challenge, of course, but from physical threat of harm from men. As a biological matter, most women are physically outmatched by men. Men are stronger and faster than we are, though we’re better able to tolerate pain and tend to live longer.

House Democrats introduced a bill this month that would outlaw safe spaces for women. The Equality Act—so called because, to put it charitably, Democrats excel at branding—purports merely to extend protections of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to people who are gay and transgender. Insofar as it would prohibit landlords from evicting tenants and employers from firing employees based on sexual orientation, it is no doubt long overdue.

But the bill goes further, proposing to prohibit discrimination based on “gender identity.” That claim directly competes with the rights of women and girls. Any biological males who self-identify as females would, under the Equality Act, be legally entitled to enter women’s restrooms, locker rooms and protective facilities such as battered-women’s shelters. This would put women and girls at immediate physical risk.

Because courts typically interpret Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 according to the provisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, amending the latter would alter the understanding of the former. Biological boys who identify as girls would gain an instant entitlement to compete on girls’ teams in all 50 states. No more democratic discussion of accommodation, competing interest, sacrifice and fairness. No more debate about whether we should really allow girls’ scholarships and trophies to go to male athletes who were unable to excel on the boys’ teams. No more discussion about whether it’s right to allow, as we have, biological men to pick off championships in women’s and girls’ powerlifting, cycling, wrestling and running. These emergent public discussions would be locked away in a vault of civil rights.

Part of the reason women have been reluctant to object to these incursions into their hard-won rights has to do with embarrassment at acknowledging our biological differences, which some leading feminists have denied for years. But women are biologically different from men, as the chromosomes in every cell of our bodies readily testify. (How absurd that this is necessary to point out.) And one source of many of our physical differences resides in our glands.

Boys undergo a testosterone surge during puberty that is 10 to 40 times what girls experience, conferring lifetime physical advantages: vastly greater muscle mass, bone density, more fast-twitch muscle fiber, larger hearts and lungs—all things that provide absolute and unbridgeable advantage in strength and speed.

As long as women had their own safe spaces, such disadvantages never mattered much. But that may soon change. Not because women and men have changed, but because of the progressive left’s sudden rush to strip girls and women of separate facilities, sacrificing their rights to a group a notch or two higher on the intersectional pecking order. As Kara Dansky, media director of the Women’s Liberation Front, put it to me, the Equality Act would eliminate “women and girls as a coherent legal category worthy of civil-rights protection.” It would do so by redefining the category of “women” to include “women and those who say they are women”—which means women and people who aren’t women at all.

Activists typically counter this argument with the claim that men wouldn’t pose as men-who-believe-they-are-women unless they sincerely believed it. There are too many taboos, and the transgender life is too hard for anyone to want to fake it, they claim. But under the Equality Act, pretending to be transgender would sometimes be rational.

It doesn’t strain the human imagination to picture a male convict renaming himself “Sheila” and heading for the women’s prison. Nor would it surprise anyone if rapists began to “identify” as women—no physical alteration is required to change your gender identity—to gain free access to women’s showers. What pedophile wouldn’t want open access to girls’ bathrooms? And many a biological man with no place to sleep would prefer the quieter, gentler confines of a shelter for battered women to the dodgy enclosure of one for homeless men.

Are there sincere transgender people who ought to be accommodated with appropriate facilities? Of course. But their need, however real, doesn’t justify the immediate transfer of the hard-won rights of women and girls. No comparable sacrifice is asked of boys and men, who are unlikely to feel threatened by a biological woman in the restroom. No top male athletes are likely to lose competitions to biological women competing as men. Only women are made to sacrifice for the sake of this new “equality.” And what women and girls are being coerced to cough up isn’t an unfair privilege but a leveler they require.

The bill is unlikely to become law while Republicans control the Senate or White House. But this isn’t the first time the Democrats have introduced the Equality Act, and it won’t be the last. It’s a proposal worth taking seriously because it provides a glimpse of the left’s willingness to sacrifice women and girls to those wolves in sheep’s clothing—transgender or not—who would take advantage of them.

Ms. Shrier is a writer living in Los Angeles.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-transgender-war-on-women-11553640683

No. 392157

Recently hundreds of parents have withdrawn their children from UK schools in protest over lessons that include the children reading And Tango Makes Three, which is a picture book about those male penguins who adopted a baby penguin. The parents have stated gay people are not natural and are sinners and should not exist. They have been protesting outside the schools with signs claiming gay people will burn in hell.

The police have stated this is not a hate crime.

Meanwhile, if you tweet a limerick that implies troons aren't stunning and brave you will get a visit from the police with threats to prosecute you.

No. 392159

>>387259
Has anyone been following the Morgane Oger thread on KF? I have never seen so many people hit peak trans in real time. In fact, there were a couple of posters, just looking at their posting history, that they were in strong support of trans rights just days before coming into the thread. It was amazing how Morgane’s assault on Vancouver Rape Relief finally woke them up.

No. 392160

>>392157
>The police have stated this is not a hate crime.
Ex-fucking-cuse me. In the UK of 2019 you can fucking protest against gay people outside of schools and yell how they will burn in hell and this is not considered a hate crime, but the moment you tweet "trans women are not women" the police will come after you in a matter of hours? This is a fucking dystopian timeline right here.

No. 392162

>>392157
This happened in a german school as well. Not because of what they taught, but because there was one gay teacher. If you can guess the religion of the protesters, then you know why the police didn't do anything… Could be the case in the UK as well.

No. 392163

Isn’t it funny how we can acknowledge that homosexuality is observable in hundreds of animal species and it requires no medical intervention/surgery to become that way and thus, it is natural but TRAs can only point towards cold, slimy non-mammals that change sex on their own due to survival? How is their cause more scientifically and biologically valid when no similar species displays their condition or uses the medical process needed to get there?

I see these ridiculous articles stating “Look at this fish defying your perception of gender!” when no human has ever changed sex to ensure survival and cannot do so in their own. Where are the healthy, physically normal apes injecting themselves with hormones or aggressively demanding their troop treat them as a female? There is not a single direct parallel to transgenderism in the animal kingdom at all. If we simply look at animals defying gender roles or having a genetic condition/mental state that makes them assume opposite sex traits, where does the demand for government-funded hormone replacement and endless cosmetic surgeries come into their defense?

No. 392164

>>392163
They're desperate for something, anything scientific to point to. They don't care that there's no real point to be made about human gender identity in regards to other animals changing sex, they just need something to cling onto.
Granted, you could use the "it's natural" argument for everything from rape to shitting in the street, but people still fall for it anyway. That's their main goal, is to make people believe that gender reassignment is more than just wish fulfillment.

No. 392166

>>392164
I just really would love to see how they would explain how they NEED hormones, surgeries and experimental transplants if it is supposed to be natural, when no other creature in existence has needed artificial intervention in that way. Maybe we should step in and help our animal friends that are sexually divergent? Create funds for doggy SRS and manufacture little implants for chimpanzees? If humans need these things than surely animals do!

No. 392173

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I brought an e-book called the Trauma Cleaner without bothering to read the blurb. I didn't realise it would be a troon's biography/life story. This is how the writer describes the troon. The book is filled with exaggerated descriptions of how gorgeous the troon is..

No. 392175

>>392173
Holy mother of god this reads like a bimbofication fetish description. Barf.

No. 392176

>>392163
>There is not a single direct parallel to transgenderism in the animal kingdom at all
There is such a thing as sexual mimicry, which is rare but does occur in some vertebrate species. It generally functions as a strategy for weaker males to avoid detection by or to pacify more aggressive, dominant males and for them to get access to females for sneaky mating. Sound familiar?

Of course this is totally different from what TIMs are doing when they demand access to women's prisons, shelters, changing rooms, support groups etc. Completely different. In fact, the biologists who describe this behaviour are surely crypto-TERFs trying to slander the brave and stunning.

No. 392177

>>391963
Thanks for reminding me never to sit near troons in public with my child.

No. 392181

>>392124
Part of me wonders if they might use this to get women to vote conservative. I could see this really getting pushed by Republicans in the US.

No. 392187

>>392062
His jaw and mannerism are a dead giveaway. They all have this creepy exaggerated way of speaking and moving, like they're trying to be as feminine as possible that in the end it just seems like a parody of women, since real women don't do that. If they behaved like normal people they'd be less obvious.

>>392159
It's going to get better, anons. A lot of people are starting to wake up and speak up compared to, idk, 2 years ago. As the trans movement shows its true face and gets bolder, more and more people finally realize the sham. Trannies always shoot themselves in the foot, and you can only manipulate people until you cross a certain line.

No. 392197

>>392187
>As the trans movement shows its true face and gets bolder, more and more people finally realize the sham.

Will they, though? It's so trendy to be 'non-binary uwu' and genderqueer these days in left-leaning communities that saying anything negative about it(even to criticize the hypocrisy of fakeboi fujoshis who present entirely as women) is the social equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

No. 392205

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Look at these transphobic videos Youtube keeps on suggesting me… smh

No. 392208

What im confused by is that genitals apparentlt “arent” sexed YET brains “”are” and trannies always use that as an arguement..

No. 392211

>>392208
They've turned everything completely upside-down. Apparently now sex is a social construct but gender is an immutable biological fact.

No. 392221

>>392211
Its fucking insane, like “Your vagina and uterous dont make you female, your ladybrain which isnt even proven by science does though!!”

No. 392236

>>392211
>>392221
I think there are two different types of trannies making these arguments, and both are retarded.

Type A believes in brain-sex (a scientific falsehood) and will defend its existence. They generally claim to believe they were a woman born in a man's body. They will act in stereotypical female ways to try and pantomime what they think women are like.

Type B is absolutely saturated in postmodern ideology and wants to actively destroy most sorts of social structures. Hence why they call themselves "women" while wearing sportswear and rocking a full beard. Why should they have to shave or wear a dress or act feminine when "cis women" don't have to do that to be women? These types don't even pretend to bother with the science bits. Questioning them on why they believe they're a women will result in a nonsense word-soup that probably amounts to "I am a man who pretends not to be a man for woke points online, something something destroying patriarchy, something something I fuck more lesbians than you. Read theory."

Type A and B probably both watch shitty cutesy quasi-pedophilic animes cause they're both cumbrained men. Not sure which is more worthy of disdain, personally I think it's Type B because they are less mentally ill and more just playing a weird manipulative game, but that's just a subjective opinion.

No. 392237

from the phoebe tickner thread in /snow/:

>>791455

>lololol she was asked if she could ask freddie mercury any question it would be about his "gender identity" and if he were alive today would he identify as a guy or more pansexual.

No. 392239

>>392033
Tell her afab and amab are stolen from the intersex community and that they object to and resent having those terms appropriated for non-intersex experiences.

No. 392240

>>392236
Oh, forgot to add something, please excuse the double-posting. Types A and B will make weird and unsupported claims that humans are not sexually dimorphic, thus sexuality is not real. It's very odd and blatantly untrue to anyone with eyes so I'm not really sure why people even say it. It's like a weird brainwashing mantra.

No. 392248

>>392221
>A feminine penis is exactly the same as a vagina you bigot! You'll never even notice you're not banging a cis woman!
>>392240
>Types A and B will make weird and unsupported claims that humans are not sexually dymorphic
I've seen this more often than i should. It's usually along the transgender sports debate, and the usual arguments are that it's just the in which way men and women are raised differently and that there's nothing biological.

No. 392290

File: 1553884516404.jpg (120.34 KB, 1078x1477, MensCyclist.jpg)

Here's a bit of good news

No. 392293

File: 1553884746878.jpg (675.44 KB, 1564x1564, CryMoar.jpg)

>>392290
Sob story on his Instagram.
So much entitlement.

No. 392295

>>392290
>>392293
YESSSS finally. I hope he doesn't get it back.

No. 392321

>>392239
I would have but I know that would just have made her suspect that I'm an evul terve

No. 392325

>>392293
Isn’t this one of the guys who celebrates when so-called TERFs are banned from twitter for shit like misgendering? Funny how it’s apparently justified when it happens to a woman he disagrees with but a “transphobic silencing attack” when it happens to him. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
inb4 “omg the transphobes want me to literally be killed with a sword??!?”

No. 392388

>>392205
OT but I love Ahmed Aldoori’s videos, he’s so chill

No. 392394

>>391734
We'll go back, but only because non-whites won't tolerate this

No. 392520

>>392240
it's just a cope honestly

No. 392656

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He deleted the tweet so I stole the screenshot from another site. He thinks he walks into a locker room and we don't immediately balk at the sight of his male body?

No. 392657

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>>392656
Who does he think he's fooling?

No. 392666

>>392656
This motherfucker is delusional. Just because someone doesn't point at you and yell "THAT'S A MAN, BABY!" like you were in a movie it doesn't mean they didn't clock you.

>>392293
You started this game of bullshit twitter reports, other people can play it too. They're just following the rules. Live with it.

No. 392704

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>>392656
>>392657
>People are generally SHOCKED to learn I'm trans
lmao

No. 392705

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No. 392708

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>>392293
his account is back. this is the tweet he was suspended over. He replies to the other troon to reiterate that when he says this, he does mean it literally.

No. 392709

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I signed into audible to use my monthly credit and this was the first thing I saw. Why are they showing me this?

No. 392711

>>392709
Troons have a retard concept of gender lmao. Literally if you can't handle the sex you were born as, something is mentally wrong with you and you need therapy.
I think a lot of trans people deal with high anxiety and give into it rather than seeking help on how to control it. They think transitioning is the quick fix, when in reality recovering from an anxiety disorder takes years. Their case isn't unique.

Sort of OT, but I'm in a Facebook group for people who are trying to recover from anxiety. There was one woman who recently said she was dealing with intrusive thoughts and the one that started scaring her was the thought she's having bad anxiety is because she's trans. Obviously, it's just an intrusive thought and she's aware because her reaction to it is fear, but I'm wondering since a lot of troons have autism, if that affects their reactions to intrusive thoughts.

No. 392714

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hahahahahahaha

No. 392726


No. 392744

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https://twitter.com/RockCandyGames/status/1109218048270049287?s=19
This entire thing is a mess but I noticed something funny. There's two characters in the game who are trans. One is white. The other is desi, which means they were more than likely forced to transition due to desi countries being homophobic. But it's progressive!

No. 392746

>>392714
>chinatsu
>waifu
disgusting, she's in middle school. and why do these fucks think having the same name means you're close, at all?

No. 392748

>>392656
I'm so glad MTF's are banned from powerlifting in the US. Iirc they can't reach low enough level of testosterone or something even with meds, also because shit that messes with hormones in generally banned

No. 392752

>>392744
This is so fucking pathetic, holy shit.

No. 392754

>>392173
This was written by a man

No. 392768

>>392744
Now it got me think

I find it funny that they say 'inclusive' and diverse, troons and genderspecials non-binary are almost clone of each other in term of personality and their lack of touch in reality. The only thing that diversify them is the label they choose for themselves.

It's almost like astrology at this point of people thinking these labels mean something, but astrology is less dumb because they don't ask for law and media to cater to them.

No. 392773

>>392656
This is what happens when you nurture these people's delusions. Handmaidens - and even normal people, to a certain degree - will play along out of kindness (aka pity) and pretend that "OMG you're trans?? I really didn't see that coming, you look more womanly than biological women! So stunning and brave!", and troons are thick as shit and the obvious fakeness of it just flies over their heads, so they believe it.

No. 392776

Does anyone have that screenshot of Jonathan Yaniv trying to lure a child to his hotel under the guise of needing menstrual products? I'm tired of this pedo walking free. Canada's pedo report website is shittily designed but I want to try it.

No. 392791

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My TIF cousin just posted this.

I had recently discovered GC feminism, and wasn't shocked to find out I agree with most of it. But when I had no clue what it was, I basically narrowed done trans ideology to respecting people's pronouns and that the world is changing.

I still call my cousin by her preferred pronouns - when I'm with her or discussing her with other people irl, but I no longer think I can communicate with her with my ideas about transgenderism changing. Not only that but she mutilated her chest, so she's too far gone for me to talk her out of bottom surgery or the harmful effects of continuing Testosterone.

I dunno should I progressively ghost her or just stick around to see if this trend dies out and people have finally got some sense snapped into them.

No. 392796

>>392791
unrelated but I hate how Bart Simpson has become deep character for "sad boys" who pretend he's deep
also Sadbois dont even have to be boys i know a "cis" girl who has that exact bart profile pic

No. 392804

There's some stuff on Twitter about how Alexa had a "day of trans" "voice of Trans" which is just a regular male voice, meant to represent a FtM, the "voice of trans" offers to tell its algorithm-approved stereotypical "trans" story like a character in a children's book.

I think people on Twitter are trying to be offended, because while it's shitty and dumb that that exists, commodifying a gender identity is…exactly what women (aka cis females) put up with from the day we are born. We are used to sell products, we are offered as prize and incentive for men to achieve, or behave, or incentive to earn a lot of money and thus be supplied with "babes" or trophy wives. Our bodies and personalities are used to sell products, but also to deride, laugh at, mock, control. We are stereotyped, assumptions are made about us, and apparently only when Alexa, the female robotic servant, had a "trans" voice did MtF become horrified at the concept of being a commodified servant, able to be controlled and derided by cis people without any means of defence. We'll just ignore the fact ALL of these robot servants coincidentally are coded female, Alexa, Siri and so on.
Trans related corporate shit like that is just equality for them, but the response is of horror and confusion.
Being commodified is part of the deal, part of being female, and it's interesting that only when corporations started to try and profit from trans identities did this concept occur to MtF, despite their "female" brains surely reaching that conclusion well before now.

No. 392809

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>>392714
>ashley
>madison

uhh

No. 392814

>>392714

NTA, but wow that's really cringe…

No. 392818

My has a lesbian friend whose girlfriend decided to transition. Pretty much right away, the new "boyfriend" started acting like an asshole.
My sisters friend was struggling with this to support "his" decision to be a man but still supported "him"
eventually a few months later "he" left his girlfriend because she was a transphobe who didn't support "him" and is is now currently dating a cis-male and self Identifying as a Pansexual male

No. 392855

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Those crazy eyes…

No. 392860

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>>392855
What the fuck is it with troons and psychopathic eyes?

No. 392885

>>392860
they think opening their eyes wider makes them look cuter.

No. 392895


No. 392898

>>392895
The tim isn't even trying to pass. He's literally a man wearing a pink shirt.

And the girl isn't either. She's talking about how she's GNC but look at her.

No. 392908

>>392895
I think he would be my type if he weren't a tranny. He's handsome and I love his features. Fuck, why does he have to be a troon.

No. 392914

>>392895
Why do troonsbians try to mimick gay lisp

No. 392915

>>392895
This is the most cringe inducing thing I've ever seen

No. 392917

>>392895
Unpopular opinion but I didn't hate this.
I went into this ready to ree about clothing stereotypes and gender norms, but honestly this video was pretty sweet. It's always nice to see any couple examine their feelings toward each other (even if it's in front of a camera so there's a little posturing and signal virtuing). Even seeing the nonbinary one saying that they feel like a mother or misgendering their partner was refreshing and miles different from the cutthroat state of intersectional politics which you usually see on twitter etc.

But then I'm on the softer side of GC, I really don't mind people just living their own personal lives in a nonstandard way, my GC concerns lie elsewhere.

No. 392921

>>392917
Nah it was cringy and transbians dont love anything but themselves

No. 392925

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>>392917
I really don't care how they want to live their lives either but I still can't stand guys like this. He wants to be objectified like a woman and reclaim faggot? Even his girlfriend knows he's a man. It's ridiculous. There's nothing special about heterosexual relationships. They'd be happier if they just grew up and stopped pretending to be something they're not.

No. 392950

>>392925
Exactly. If they had just gone into this acting like a normal heterosexual couple I wouldn't have any issue with it, because that's what they are.

But as soon as the man said he called his girlfriend his boyfriend, it got stupid and just went downhill from there.

No. 392951

>>392917
>they feel
>their partner

"enbies" aren't real so I've got no clue why you're doing that. She's a female. Call her female.

No. 392976

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So why did everyone rightfully flip their shit over Rachel Dolezal claiming to know the black experience yet it's okay for troons to claim to know the female experience?

No. 392979

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No. 392981

>>392917
I don't care about transbians. They're the same breed of woman who pretends to be a boy so they can act out their yaoi fantasies. I only respect trans women who are straight and go after cis men because they feel more comfortable presenting as women than men. Transbians are disgusting predators.

No. 392987

>>392979
Why is bisexuality the only one in the lineup that actually belongs under the fag flag lmao, where are gay and lesbian - or are they not ‘fringe’ enough to matter?

No. 392995

>>392987
one of them is the "gay" flag, the rainbow one. I really wish gay guys would take that shit back because i'm sick of it being the "lgbtqwertyuiop" flag. and lesbians obviously don't matter to genderspecials.

No. 393001

>>392995
samefag but i just remembered this dumbass reddit post i got sent and my favourite quote from it
https://www.reddit.com/r/ainbow/comments/wcsjt/would_someone_who_is_even_slightly_artistically/

>Besides, I feel like I've come to assume that the "rainbow flag" stands for "gay" or "lesbian," and it doesn't feel quite right to me to make that association (thereby implicitly excluding bi, trans, and other queer people). Am I the only one who can't help but think this way? Or do I just sound "oblivious to my privilege"?

No. 393014

>>392976
according to a TIM I know those are two different things. Because racism or something. Not like women have been discriminated based on their sex or anything

No. 393029

>>392995
It wasn’t labeled and is at the front so I took it as a ‘you all belong under this flag~’ sentiment

Unpopular opinion but the gay flag is obnoxious, of course they have the loudest one that overpowers everything else visually and is also considered to be all encompassing

No. 393034

>>393029
I mean there's actual history behind the use of the rainbow colors (the current one isn't even the original one) and it's above and beyond more valid than any special snowflake flag.

No. 393038

>>393034
No I know that but it’s still hugely obnoxious

No. 393042

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ignore if this has been brought up before, but i saw this article/blog post on reddit.
https://deadwildroses.com/2018/11/15/i-was-called-a-terf-brave-women-who-dare-speak-their-minds/
women sharing reasons why they've been called terfs. pic attached caught my eye because i've said something similar before around my "woke" friends

No. 393044


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No. 393047

>>393044
hontra is acting as if men don't describe women in the exact same sort of detail.

No. 393054

>>393044
Addresses some of the major GC talking points with a bit of lucidity at times, but mostly strawmans, concludes (despite claiming to have nuanced views) that GC is only hateful transphobia and nothing more based on a few examples of people being nasty that could be set next to a counter example of a TRA being equally nasty with equally little effort.

Notably does not address at all the subject of trans being given access to women's sports, shelters, safe spaces, crisis centers, healthcare, etc.

No. 393057

>>393044
I have no desire to spend 30 minutes listening to contra fellate himself to completion on this, or any topic. The man has nothing of value to say.

No. 393063

>>393044
He really hates women who won't submit to his ideology, doesn't he?

No. 393067

>>393044
I am so tired of their bizarre male socialization argument. No, transwomen do not "internalize" misogynistic beliefs they grew up hearing about women. No, transwomen being bullied for being feminine does not mean that they do not benefit from male privilege or do not experience male socialization. By that logic an effeminate gay man understands female socialization and experiences misogyny. That obviously makes no sense, so why should it for transwomen? Not every experience of male socialization is enjoyable. And being ridiculed for and discouraged from being feminine is definitely a male experience. So many of the harmful stereotypes and beliefs about women stem from our bodies, so how could transwomen possibly internalize a reality they are incapable of experiencing?

The main reason I experienced so much distress at being a girl when I experienced misogyny for the first time was because of how inescapable and completely out of my control it was. I didn't understand how someone could think so lowly of me simply because of the sex I was born as. Growing up hearing the way men think about women absolutely did not make transwomen project those beliefs onto themselves. That is evident in the blatant difference between behavior that we see in transwomen and "cis" women. I'm sure Contra would roll his eyes at me saying that, but it's fucking true.

He also framed questions like "What do you mean you feel like a woman?" and "What is a woman?" as disingenuous gotchas that TERFs don't actually care about the answer to. Sure, if I were to ask that now, I wouldn't expect a thought provoking answer. But back when I was a libfem, it was something I genuinely didn't understand. Why can't he just answer that? How did he know he was a woman. Sure he's expressed discomfort at typical male sex characteristics, but how does that transform you into a woman? The whole concept literally just doesn't make sense. And it's not because I'm not smart enough to understand Contra's philosophy jargon. It's just logically inconsistent.

No. 393070

>>393044
Lol at contra pointing out how terfs are big meanies cause we can clock tims. But not pointing out that all the abuse women face for even being a suspected GC feminist.

Also I love that he basically hate reads GC,lc and kf LMFAO

No. 393071

>>393044
the only good thing about this video was the ending. It's definitely going to peak more people's curiosity about gc and have them searching it up, especially since he nitpicked from r/gendercritical and confirmed he hate reads forums

No. 393072

>>393044
30 minutes long and hontra still can't define what a woman is. He also confused sex and gender once again

No. 393075

>>393044
I wouldn't expect any different from Contra having Theryn Meyer put on that annoying mocking voice for the r/gendercritical comments, but the fact that he put on that voice for the Sylvia Plath quote was just disgusting. Interesting how the "former" MRAs are all buddy-buddy mocking the trauma of a suicidal woman lamenting how much male violence restricts our movement in the world

No. 393077

>>393072
This may seem obvious but how is it they scream about women being defined by more than their sex characteristics and yet they spend thousands of dollars trying to mimic these sex organs, prostitute themselves trying to afford it, or kill themselves if they can't? If womanhood isn't defined by breasts and vaginas and different fat distribution etc, why transition at all? Why not identify as ~women inside~ and not alter the body in an attempt to replicate what we were born with and defined by our whole lives?

Why is is gender dysphoria the only illness where people aren't encouraged to learn coping skills for their mental issues the way people with EDs, body dysmorphia, or PTSD from sexual assaults are? Why aren't rape victims granted special treatment in public spaces the way trans people are? It's interesting how McKinnon says TERFs aren't a protected class. He's saying women aren't historically denied opportunities and access and respect over the past 2000 years? I guess men like him figure that hormone therapy and dresses in his closet put him in the same category as women who have suffered FGM, died in period hits, were married off as children to old men, denied maternity leave, etc etc etc.

They know they aren't the same as us. They remind me of rapists in that they care tremendously about exerting power over women, "putting them in their place", laughing at their discomfort, and caring only about their own happiness and pleasure at women's expense.

No. 393081

>>393044
Telling how Contra doesn't acknowledge either of the two biggest GC talking points: the concern for women's safety due to the number attacks from transwomen being allowed in our spaces, and the intense mental health issues that accompany trans people that indicate perhaps they aren't of a sound enough mind for us to take their word that mutilating their bodies is the best way to deal with their gender dysphoria.

No. 393082

>>393081
Let's not forget the absolute horrifying spate of medical malpractice that is childhood HRT and SRS. That is also becoming a banned 'terfs only' topic that only terrible transphobes talka bout. I believe contra probably files that sort of thing under the umbrella of sneer scarequotes "concerns"

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>>393075
>Interesting how the "former" MRAs are all buddy-buddy mocking the trauma of a suicidal woman lamenting how much male violence restricts our movement in the world

That's when I stopped watching the video. Sylvia Plath's writing has always resonated with me but a shared female experience means nothing to these men. They mock and belittle the trauma that so many women experience because of men. They won't acknowledge male violence or privilege. They can't empathise with women at all.

No. 393087

Unsurprisingly people are now flooding the GC subreddit with their misconceptions about what it means to be gender critical.

No. 393090

>>393044
just a bunch of tranny gibberish. the comments are more fun imo, a bunch of ~enbys~ and people unironically thinking menstruators/periodhavers are good terms lel. actual clown world

No. 393101

>>393086
Yup. I immediately noticed how he left out the first half of the quote - the part specifically mentioning anatomical differences and how it's that which is the source of our oppression. He literally made it about Plath just wanting to kick back and have a beer with random guys, completely missing the point and once again somehow finding a way to tie it back to himself and make a joke about sucking dick. "Engaging in good faith" my ass. I used to at least kind of respect him, but the more he talks about trans shit, the more I'm growing to straight up hate him and his utter disregard for women.

No. 393113

I would actually love to watch contra debate someone like Meghan Murphy cause I know his arguments would not hold up and it would be incredibly entertaining

No. 393119

>>393077
On your point of casting away therapy for sex dysphoria to instead let them transition medically, I believe the "T" movement being lumped in with the LGB helped it gain the untouchable "identity" status, like it's something thats Not Allowed To Be Invalidated because otherwise it's *~bigoted~*. What it should have always been was a psychological disorder, but of course, being trans had to have been wrongfully made an unshakable identity similar to being gay, lesbian or bisexual.

No. 393122

>>393119
Wasn’t the T originally transvestite?

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Sorry I couldn't resist

No. 393127

>>393125
chasers are absolutely blind to everything but dick and long hair, i swear

No. 393128


No. 393132

>>393125
The level of delusion….astounding

No. 393142

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>>393044
i looove how nick couldnt help but objectify his "TERF" character/side, too. his material is so lacking in substance and all he does for every fucking video is drop $700 at Marshalls and on eBay for cheap, gaudy shit to throw on and calls it a day

No. 393144

>>391471
Can you not use NPD to describe normal people? You're grossly misusing the term when you could've used another one, like self obsessed or absorbed, etc.

Sincerely, from a victim of someone who's officially diagnosed w/ NPD

No. 393145

>>393142
His "TERF" character has devil horns.

But it's totally just being objective, guys!!

No. 393148

>>393144
They are using the term correctly. Most Tims literally have NPD but it won't be diagnosed.

>>393145
Lmao right? Totally in good faith! I can't believe this retard went to Northwestern. Like obviously he knows what he's doing but if I was supposed to be an example of an academic, I'd be so embarrassed to do that

No. 393158

>>392895
IK this post is a little old now, but this quote lmaoo

TiF: "I hate talking about things in this way, but I wanna protect you like a boy."

TiM: "That's awesome. I think that's cool. I'm kind of a sucker for, like, weirdly-internalized, like, patriarchy things, but only in the sense that they make me feel more like a girl. Sometimes I just want to be objectified in the same way cis women would."

later:
Tif: "When you told me that somebody called you a faggot, I wanted to fucking kill them. […] I wanted to beat the shit out of them like your boyfriend but hold you like your mother."

oooooof

and they acknowledge that these stereotypes are harmful, but then dismiss it because it's different wen ur trans!!11

No. 393159

>>393148
No it's not. Using NPD on a normal person isn't correct, it's grossly wrong and disrespectful to the victims of people w/ NPD. It comes off as if it's "normal" when there could be a better word for it that accurately describe it. "NPD" is not one of the them, "narcissistic"? Sure, but not NPD, that's a personality disorders.

No. 393161

>>393144
Also, there's a huge difference between non NPD and NPD diagnosed people, so using NPD on unofficially diagnosed and perhaps people with no personality disorders is just plain wrong. Mentally disordered would have been more correct

No. 393165

>>393159
first of all, no male tranny is normal – that's why they're trannies. but studies literally say that like 64% of male trannies have NPD and like 81% of them have personality disorders of some kind (usually cluster bs). idk why you're reaching to get offended. NPD isn't even that rare of a personality disorder so idk why you're acting like it's impossible for these men that seem pretty obviously disordered, are being called out for being NPD af. and LC isn't a site for formal discussion. go to a site that specifically has to do with abuse or something if you're so pressed that people are being called out for being cluster b AF without being "OFFICIALLY DIAGNOSED!!". they won't be officially diagnosed, ever, because A. male narcissism isn't recognized as something worrisome, and B. it's just thrown into a package as part of their 'condition', just like, like, no trannies are getting specific treatment for other comorbid issues because it's just misattributed to trannydom

No. 393168

>>393165
Link to the statistics

No. 393170

>>393161
Most people with NPD are never officially diagnosed because they’ll never acknowledge there’s anything wrong with them and won’t seek help or cooperate with mental health professionals. Trans-identified people in particular will be very resistant to being diagnosed with any kind of personality or mental disorder because it might interfere with their trans diagnosis, so they will lie and manipulate to only get the diagnosis they want. There are many posts with tips on how to do this floating around on tumblr and reddit.

No. 393173

>>393165
If you were a victim of someone who has NPD and someone decided to use NPD as an insult to someone, you'd be offended because you know there's a clear difference between someone who has NPD and those who doesn't.

Most of the troons I've seen here doesn't seem Onision-y or come off as someone sinister or "off", if anything they come off as someone who needs therapy for their gender dysphoria that is just a fetish in disguise.

No. 393177

Why are there so many GC feminists with a crush on this guy?

No. 393181

>>393044
Contra's verdict on gender critical ideology is basically summed up in this quote:
"if transwomen being feminine is bad, and transwomen being masculine is bad, then there really is no way that transwomen could behave that terfs would accept."

This is a gross misconstruction.

It is bad when transwomen believe that conforming to stereotypes of what "femininity" is what makes them women.

It is bad that transwomen are biologically male and therefore have the sex drive, ill intentions, physical strength, and misogyny found in most males. When transwomen demand access to female spaces and demand to be allowed to participate in female-only sporting events, being biologically male and having been raised male is obviously bad.

No. 393182

>>393174
Source to the post?

There is a clear difference between NPD and body dysmorphia, you're just talking bullshit at this point.

No. 393205

>>393159
>>393161
>>393168
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/

Literally my first google result. Wow, that was fucking hard.

No. 393207

>>393177
cause at one point he was just a crossdressing dude who made fun of Alt-Right guys and we liked him when he was just that

No. 393210

>>393044
Hontra, I know you probably hate read here, the way you keep making your "TERF" straw men grab her tits is fucking nasty. Your misogyny is showing. Also really classy you took the musings of a suicidal women expressing her frustration at the sexist world she was born into and would eventually take herself out of, proceeded to mock it and make it about yourself. And even though you contended to a lot of points gender crit women make and said you understood it often comes from a place of trauma and frustration at having our identities appropriated by people who have not and may ever know our struggles, you still compared us to racists and bigots. sorry hon, but black people don't like it much when you appropriate their struggles.

No. 393211

Why is it seemingly only genderqueer people who will "muh suicide rate" to win arguments when they have none?
Why do you never see people with autism or bipolar do so? I mean those two have high suicide/depression rates as well.

No. 393212

>>393210
he is just a stupid straight male and an awful sjw youtuber that always goes for the low hanging fruit. i can't even stand a video of his for more than 2 minutes because his forced helium voice makes my ears bleed. you are a predatory misogynistic asshole, stop calling yourself a woman, you are never going to be one, stop calling yourself a feminist when you don't even have an understanding of what a woman is and are ready to attack women who don't fit into your narrative.
by the way i don't know if he does his own makeup and styling but it's really shitty.

No. 393215

gender dysphoria is not a real thing but being delusional is. if a woman doesn't mean adult human female, then what is it? any human that has long hair, wears makeup and "women's clothes"? how do these tras define a woman?

No. 393219

>>393215
I honestly think they view it as a religious experience.

TRAs might not call it that, but all I've ever seen when it's not horribly circular is that TIMs just "know".

No. 393228

>>393215
I think sex dysphoria is a real thing but much more similar to body dysmorphic disorder and much less common

No. 393239

>>393044
the absolute mad lad. these people are utterly delusional and it's insane that they get such a strong platform to shit out their angry man feefees. people actually listen to this crap and that's the scary part.

everything they have to say and everything they want is becoming at the expense of women. they can't hit us into submission like they want to and it shows.

No. 393253

>>393159
Its not that deep, its like people throwing around autism

No. 393263

>>393228
it's actually pretty common among young women, that they usually grow out of, but some unfortunately do not. it's a psychological disorder that stems from internalized misogyny or childhood trauma mostly, but it SHOULD be treated with therapy and not hormones and mutilation.

No. 393268

>>393044
Of course he strawmanned and went for the most low hanging fruit arguments and didn't address the bigger, unrefutable arguments. He's just a dishonest hon, like all the other trannies.

>>393144
"Normal" people? 81% of troons have a cluster B personality disorder, it being NPD (in most cases) or BPD. Did you really believe that we were using the NPD/BPD word as a slur in these threads? Lurk more.

No. 393270

>trans visibility day during UK/Irish Mothers Day, during Womens History Month

Fucking hell. I'm American, and I'm gonna retweet Mothers Day stuff, fuck em.

No. 393272

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>>393044
>I know the TERFs are going to say i'm literally clockable, but everyone else in my life doesn't seem to think so!
He… is clockable though. People likely don't point it out because they're scared of the backlash, but they know what he is. I don't know about anyone else but most GC people i know aren't even radfems, they can't even be classified as TERFs. People just like to laugh at trannies in their free time.

Also
>this comment
Cue those images of TIMs grabbing old tampons/old pads and stuffing it inside their panties
>but there's women who are infertile!!!11
Yes, but they were born right the parts in the first place, something that trannies will forever be crying because they don't have it.

No. 393273

>>393270
Please do, and post photos of breastfeeding moms to further put up the middle finger towards troons since they hate biology.

No. 393286

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>>393272
>Hontra
>Passing

Laughinggirls.jpg

No. 393297

>>393272
>b-but what about the meeen!!!

No. 393329

I remember when Jeffrey Marsh was just a lavish crossdresser who tried to spread positivity in expression, then the troon narrative took over and now he looks insane

No. 393343

natalie didn't address any of the "concerns" i have (other than refuting gender abolition as idealist, which, fair.) it was the same argument over and over of "trolls use this rhetoric to call me ugly so the questions raised don't matter."

i'm not a twitter troll, i don't give a shit about pronouns, or names, or if her eyeliner is wrong or whatever, i just think equating womanhood with hyperfemininity is busted and infighting is stupid. so this vid was not for me. it was a basic "gotcha haters >:)" pretending to be nuanced when it isn't.

No. 393371

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A few months ago somebody posted that the actor Liev Schreiber kisses his sons in a strangely intimate way and that he allowed one to wear a for children completely inapporpriate Harley Quinn costume.
Guess what, he's "trans" now.

Angelina Jolie called her own baby a "blob" and admitted to liking her less, because she hasn't "suffered" like any of her adopted children (who were adopted as babies…). One daughter already trooned out a few years ago, now the second biological daughter wants to be a boy as well.

Same for Charlize Theron's and Megan Fox's child.

Those "Hollywood has a pact with the devil and is actually just a gigantic pedo ring"-theories seem more and more plausible. Coupled with propaganda shows like Jazz and shit like the police calling you for liking a terfy tweet…

No. 393372

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>>393371
Simply gross.

No. 393387

>>393253
No, it's not. Narcissistic, yes, it's not that deep, but NPD? It's used incorrectly and comes off as normalizing tbh

No. 393392

>>393371
>>393372

Can we please stop posting about children here? Regardless of the fact that they're in the public eye, it's creepy and unnecessary. There are plenty of other things to discuss.

No. 393403

Male Chickens = Cocks & Female Chickens = Hens
Male Deer = Buck / Stag & Female Deer = Doe
Male Horse = Stallion & Female Horse = Mare

But female human =/= woman and male human =/= man?

No. 393405

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3547371-Lesbians-at-Ground-Zero-this-matters

>Get the L Out new research LESBIANS AT GROUND ZERO revealed that lesbians are routinely being coerced into sexual relations with transwomen. The report includes findings of a survey which shows lesbians are under huge pressure within GBT communities to accept without question that “transwoman are women.” Lesbians who responded to the survey reported a wide variety of sexual violence by transwomen, including sexual harassment, sexual assault and rape.

No. 393415

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No. 393422

>>393392
What the fuck anon? Trans kids are one of the biggest fucking sufferers of the trans movement and the immediate danger bestowed upon them is a pretty critical discussion point, I think it's fair to talk about the phenomenon.

No. 393431

>>393422
I think it's that (probably a chaser) anon from earlier that keeps screeching about troons not having NPD

No. 393434

>>393422
Because it's not like the parents of these children are going around saying they're trans and convincing them to be trans, as far as you or I know. Your son wanting to wear a dress =/= them being transgender, ffs. Kids go through phases and these kids' phases are highly publicized.

You're acting like they have their kids on hormone replace treatment or something. The idea that boys liking girl things and girls liking boy things has partially led to this whole "my son likes barbies, he must be trans!" craze. In reality these kids probably just want to wear a costume or a dress or are going through a phase where they want to be called by a different name and the parents put up with it because kids are a pain in the ass to begin with.

Kids have phases and they grow out of them. I'm sure you went through some ridiculous phase when you were younger and eventually grew out of it. One summer my little brother insisted on wearing a skirt every day and it didn't turn him into a tranny. He grew out of it once school started back. Yeah, parents who let their children have hormone replacement and shit like that are disgusting (like Jazz), but none of these situations seem like that.

No. 393438

>>393415
This is some serious last thing you see before you die shit.

No. 393439

>>393415
Which survival horror game is this from?

No. 393440

>>393415
This looks like a potential creepypasta image

No. 393441

>>393434
Angelina Jolie IS putting her kid on hormone treatment. Takes you 1.5 seconds to google it. Jesus christ anon you barge in in thread 14 and start "educating" people on how immoral they are for "harassing innocent kids" when it's their parents putting them out there for discussion? Is this some shitty bait or a troon?

No. 393444

>>393434
Absolute bullshit. MbP moms are 100% jumping on the transtrender train. They get tons of attention and they get to medicalize their children's entire lives in a socially sanctioned way.

No. 393445

>>393441
There is a huge influx on all the boards of either straight up troons or tumblrtards and it is blatant.

No. 393447

>>393372
this makes me ill. no child should be dressed in something that skimpy, kissing their father like that, or be described as shockingly attractive

big pedo vibes. fucking christ.

No. 393456

>>393415
Holy shit fuck I legit got startled that's so disturbing

No. 393460

>>393415
After Momo and el Ayuwoki, this is the new creature that will appear in the corner of your room at 4 am

>>393434
Are you STILL going on with that argument, anon? We told you one thousand times that yes, Angelina Jolie is putting her daughter on hormones. It's been discussed, linked and proved at least three times in the most recent threads - not to mention, it can be googled in a sec. You've got to be trolling

No. 393464

>>393405
Sadly not shocking at all. Look at the lack of commentary on this in a gc thread on a board that is supposedly dominated by women.

Kinda interesting, huh.

No. 393468

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No. 393470

>>393434

Confirmed for not knowing where you are and having never read GC discussion. Everything you said IS happening. You would have known had you bothered to barely read these threads. Lurk more before you decide to come and "educate us", newfag.

No. 393473

>>393441
I did google and the only source is a completely unreliable gossip rag and sketchy websites with 1000 pop ups. And pro-transgender reddit links. Stop believing everything you see ffs. Do you seriously not see that you insisting that every boy who wears a dress or every girl that cuts her hair short is transgender is further perpetuating that stereotype?

No. 393475

>>393473
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

No. 393477

I watched that entire gender critical video by Contrapoints and wow does he miss the mark hard. We all know the real reason he transitioned (substance abuse and mental illness) and it became glaringly clear how male he truly is in his aggressive, fighting response. Falling back on 'being beautiful' (haha) is the most immature form of cattiness I've ever seen, and only a dumb man in CVS tier acrylics press-on's would do that in a supposedly 'intellectual response' vid.
I absolutely love that he glazes over Sylvia Plath's fear of assault. Then goes on to say 'trans people are assaulted too!'. Sylvia and I cannot wash off our makeup and become 'one of the guys' and feel safe. He can. He's so ignorant of what it means to be a woman that his facade is essentially gender theater mockery in the realms of drag.

No. 393480

>>393477
he was heavily into sissy porn too, back in the streaming days when he was just a 'regular' dude.

No. 393487

>>393464
What are you talking about? This thread has regularly discussed issues like the cotton ceiling
>>393468
Is that odo?

No. 393491

>>393415
I just watched the movie Castle Freak the other night. I see he survived his fall and found some makeup.

No. 393492

>>393487
One of his relatives, infected by the morphogenic virus. Something about the original picture reminded me of them.

No. 393512

>>393475

If you're the person weirdly obsessed with Angelina Jolie, please gtfo. I agree with you and I'm tired of your vendetta.

No. 393525

If you were a girl dating a guy (no tranny-ness here, real genders just a regular straight girl and guy), and you were in love but in a discussion months into the relationship he admits that he slept with trannies in the past what would you do? Up to this point he had never mentioned anything about being bi to you because he sees trannies as women? And they were pre-op…

No. 393529

>>393525
Probably demand he get HIV tested because the STD rates in TIMs are astounding.

No. 393535

>>393525

Actual lol, at what point did he see them as women? Before or after he had to maneouvre or get off their penises during sex?

I probably wouldn't stay with my partner because I would rather date someone with a full heterosexual history but that's just me.

No. 393551

>>393512
Fucking seconded.

No. 393555

>>393525
I'd break up. I feel bad saying this but chasers are the type to talk shit about the real women they've dated because they aren't as desperate and submissive as trannies(they know they are bottom of the barrel in the dating world). Next thing you know, he's telling people online a tranny vagina is better than yours because he is mad about getting dumped.

No. 393577

God, I forgot the voice actor for Meowth from Pokemon is a troony balooney

No. 393632

>>393525
Don't date a guy who fucks with trannies, they're usually hypersexual and into some weird shit, and absolutely desperate. If the relationship was exclusively monogamous and not a weird fetish fuck fest (unlikely) than maybe he's a good dude but I would be skeptical and on guard.

No. 393666

File: 1554088954210.png (2.18 MB, 1656x1170, looksbadfam.png)

Curious what you guys think of this.

This TiF just got a surgical beard transplant. Had no idea this sort of thing even existed. It just looks so bad to me, like they didn't even bother with her neck??

Apparently she never passed as a man even with being on T for years. Do you think this would help?

No. 393673

>>393666
this seriously makes me feel sick. look at the blood oozing out of each hole, jfc

No. 393686

>>393666
She just looks like a woman who had a serious injury. How the hell isn't this malpractice?

No. 393691

>>393666
Is this right after or something? Is it supposed to look that shitty or does it start to look better? Wtf looks like terrible crossplay tier.

No. 393705

>>393691
>>393686
>>393673
jesus you dumbasses, this is immediate post operation, this isn't the fucking 'look'. See the bandage? on the back of the head where they took the hairs. It will probably look shit because head hair isn't like beard hair but obviously the bloody swollen mess isn't the 'result' lol

No. 393710

>>393666
From clicking around on Instagram, plenty of women on T get tons of facial hair and pass as a dude (until you look closely at their expressions and eyes)…if she couldn't grow any hair maybe this was a sign she wasn't supposed to be a dude

No. 393713

>>393525
If your partner has a mixed gender you are bisexual, I'd wonder what else he was holding back

>btw I have aids but consider it to be minor

No. 393726

>>393666
Jesus Christ the idea of scraping of your scalp to attach it to your face is so fucking creepy

No. 393750

>>393525
I'd dump him and get checked for any diseases. I wish I had the physical strength of a man because then I could punch him. Also, that would be terribly insulting that someone liked you and liked a tranny. You know their taste is shit.

No. 393764

>>393525
Break up. Especially, since you used the word trannies, if it was multiple troons. One would give me some pause, but several would be a no-brainer.
But even one seems like something that, AT BEST, would permanently damage how you see and feel about him. Rightfully.

>>393705
Calm down, only one of the anons you replied to was confused.
Doesn't stop it from looking like shit and something that is fucked up to do to yourself or someone else.

No. 393781

>>393705
To what extent though is this considered self-harm? It's a controversial topic, but if someone with Body dysmorphia began to mutilate their body to fit their ideal this would be seen as concerning. Taking a knife to you body to change gender is tricky ethically.

No. 393856

I don't know if it's only me or I feel like 'straight people' are now ironically more celebrated in current LGBT scene due to trans ideology than actual gay/lesbian people.

If you're straight and then transition, you'd be both transgender and homosexual. Which doubles the oppression point. Classic HSTS end up straight and are seen as more boring especially if you're rather sane. The loudest ones that define queer culture now are usually obsessed transbians and fakebois who love to flaunt how quirky and deviated from normies they are with 20 mostly self-diagnosed mental illnesses and meme-obsession. It became a club for socially isolated netizens to join in and feel special matter politically. Most TRA are like this from my experiences.

Actual gay people just go mostly quiet and become normal as homosexuality is more accepted, while it's the (loser) straights that co-opted the scene and overplay the 'gay' thing just for show and attention. If you look at tumblr the 'gay feels' posts are always from them.

A few years back with same sex marriage law and the boom of pride event made me feel relieved about being lesbian, now I just don't want to be associated with the scene anymore.

No. 393862

>>393666
My dad decided to have a hair transplant, it was ugly as shit at first and he had to change his bandages and clean up the mess for a few weeks. After a while, most of it went away anyway so he had to do it a second time (and he wasn't completely bald, just thinning hair like a lot of old men)

Anyway, just to explain why it's prob gonna look like crap and most of it will fall off anyway. Plus each strand looks pretty spaced out and anyone who's been in close proximity with a real beard knows that it's usually super dense. While I guess it works out to fluff up your thinning hair naturally, I bet it's gonna look dumb as hell for beard with no other hair around it.

No. 393863

>>393862
I've seen some turn out good

No. 393887

>>393856
Celebrated I feel like straight people are demonized! Heteronormativity is frowned upon.

Look at magazines from the 1950's. Do you see many other types of people other than white people in the advertisements? And now how almost virtually every ad today(tv or print) out there with several people or more is ethnically diverse? Companies want to be inclusive and the last thing they want to be accused of is "whitewashing".

Is anyone starting to notice these days who is ending up in more ads? Hmmm? How about the Dove ad with the two mommies, one of them transgender? Or the troon? maybe it was a woman? who threw a fit about the VS show (but good on VS they said no). Soon the next thing that companies will have to worry about is "straightwashing" or "ciswashing". That if their ad doesn't include the LGBT in some way it will be railed against.

Just to be clear I don't have any issues with racial diversity. Just pointing out that it changed over time and it was a positive change.But must the LGBT also be included in everything now too?

Sorry if I offended any lesbians/bi's on here but I'm responding to a post where one says she is tired of the scene herself so I thought it might be safe.

No. 393891


No. 393910

>>393856
I feel you anon. I'm bi but have only ever dated women and for the most part don't like to bring it up or make it a big deal. When I was more in the sort of libfem/gender circles it also sort of weirded me out but I wasnt gc at the time and didn't have the right words to figure out why it bugged me at the time. I hate that they're basically making anyone same sex attracted look like we're all insane and attention seeking when most actual gay people I know just want to get on with their life. It definitely stings when I see het couples being lauded for being subversive over actual gay people who had to struggle.

No. 393913

>>393887
Uh I don't think you understood her post. She's talking about how straight people have co-opted lgbt orgs and events by claiming to be queer instead of actually being same sex attracted which is the point of gay pride.

No. 393917

Sorry was up late and didn't read that correctly. Just read things like "straight" celebrated" and "LGBT" and knew those things don't fit together.

No. 393920

>>393891
He looks better than most troons here, as sad as that sounds.

No. 393925

>>393913
>>393917
I'm OP, yep, that's my point of the post. And those "straight" queer/trans people just 'overdo the gay' to the point of making people started to think we're all bunches of loonies and delegitimize actual struggle of actual LGB people when ot wasn't yet a 'cool' thing.

No. 393934

>>393666
Still looks like a woman.

No. 393957

>>393910
I feel the same. People from these kind of gender circles often look at me weird when i'm not screaming about my sexuality 24/7. The most 'coherent' response anybody has ever given me as to why is that they fought hard to be accepted and that's why they feel the need to do it. Or, "YOU KILLED ALL THE NICE GAYS!!" Which, you know, is fucking stupid.
>>393887
No worries anon. I'm worried about this too. But to be honest i don't get the whole representation thing in general, how soft do you have to be to look at an ad and not see yourself and immediately start screaming? Seriously. I say this as someone who is rarely represented, and frankly doesn't care. Most ~minoritees~ have more shit to worry about than if the new cartoon network show has their sexuality.

No. 393973

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This came up on my timeline jfc

No. 393991

>>393973
I wish they'd put the same amount of energy into hating the men who kill, rape, or assault TiMs.

No. 393992

>>393973
I swear they're more angry at "TERFs" AKA Women, than those you disproportionally harm transwomen and that's men. Is it because women are easier to intimidate?

No. 393993

>>393991
Oh hey, thought sister.

No. 394002

>>393920
He also has a much cooler voice.

No. 394004

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Pretty sure this was started because trans are trying to make woman = makeup and over the top femininity ?

No. 394014

>>393925
Odd considering the Q word is generally an insult against LGB and itself just means strange. Those using it maybe don't understand it's hateful meaning.

No. 394018

>>394004
This sounds made up. Women with small or no breasts are still recognisable as women the overwhelming majority of the time. Even if it did happen, the only reason women are hypervigilant against men in their spaces is because TIMs have been making such a big stink about pissing in our bathrooms. If women didn’t need to be on their guard about TIMs then nobody would look twice at a woman with a flat chest.

No. 394026

>>394018
It's like that dumb lie some troon told about being told to take their pants down and "prove" they have a vagina at knifepoint. By a stranger on the street. Randomly.

And they never explained how they got out of it, considering they are pre-op.

No. 394044

>>393992
Short answer: yes. Troons are scared of men, they know men wouldn't take their bullshit for one second, so they just bully women instead.

No. 394049

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I wonder if this is the same farmhand who "accidentally" temporarily deleted this thread and put it on autosage?

No. 394050

>>394049
That was a joke, it's April's fools today, I hope there is no mod with a "boypussy".

No. 394054

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This makes me irrationally angry.

No. 394055

>>394050
It is a joke

No. 394064

>>394054
except trans shit is being forced down our throats from every direction whether we want it or not, and even so much as mentioning the L in LGBT(without mentioning troons in the next breath to validate their lesbian girldicks) makes you a horrible terf committing literal violence now. idk what this person is talking about.

No. 394070

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>>394054
Trannies manipulate reality to fit their schemes. It's delusion

No. 394081

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>>394054
>Imagine if LGBT orgs focused on trans issues all the time!
Meanwhile, back in reality…

No. 394101

>>394070
Aw they're turning on their handmaidens. They just hate women, don't they.

No. 394102

>>394081
Is there a similar graph for 2018? 2017 it went down a little but I feel like it spiked back up. Also funny how the more trans is used, lesbian dissipates.

No. 394107

>>394070
These words literally mean nothing other then "I hate women - especially dykes who won't sleep with me!!!!"

No. 394134

Did TRAs fuck themselves over by having trans day of visibility on April Fools?

If so, that's fucking hilarious

No. 394136

>>394134
no trans day of visibility was yesterday the 31st

No. 394138


No. 394139

https://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/Transgender-community-and-supporters-announce-they-will-not-be-erased_173261396
> ST. PETERSBURG — Shy 6-year-old Skyler Rhodes-Courter stood on stage and whispered into her mother’s ear in front of more than 200 transgender people and their supporters who gathered at Williams Park.
With a smile, mom Ashley Rhodes-Courter relayed, "We will not be erased."

https://www.hrc.org/blog/hrc-sits-down-with-parents-for-trans-equality-councils-ashley-rhodes-courte
> Our daughter, Skyler, was also adopted from foster care. Skyler began her social transition at four years old.

No. 394172

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From ontd: "I swear, if people try to make kim petras happen, I'm going to a break a plate. She looks like Mr Burns in a wig." KEK

No. 394174

>>394172
I actually think he passes but that doesn't make him attractive.. not that it matters.

No. 394178

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>>394172
that forehead goes on for miles holy hell

No. 394179

>>394172
All the plastic surgery in the world can’t hide his gigantic man hands

No. 394204

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>>394136

I think they're plenty visible!

>mfw I used to volunteer for the Human Rights Campaign


I haven't changed. Liberalism has.

No. 394256

>>393973
Oh, they WISH they could.

>>394018
Definitely. A no-breasted/small-breasted woman still looks like a woman. There are so many fashion blogs and communities dedicated to post double mastectomy fashion and not a single woman resembles a man. As soon as I saw this person claimed it happened to multiple friends, I knew they were lying. If a woman is wearing normal clothes, how are you supposed to notice their exact breast size in the first place? What’s with the trans obsession with breasts being the only marker of womanhood?

No. 394258

>>394054
Surely this is an April Fools joke, right? Nobody can be this blind, right??

>>394256
>What’s with the trans obsession with breasts being the only marker of womanhood?
Aside from the obvious sexual aspect, you can buy them. Just like long hair, makeup and fashion. The hardest thing about being a woman is figuring out what to wear. That’s why they freak out whenever anyone tries to define womanhood by our biology and experiences that men cannot just purchase for themselves.

No. 394260

>>394258
It’s just weird. They say vagina and female reproductive system do not belong exclusively to a woman, that we are vagina fetishists for taking pride in our bodies or admiring other women’s bodies, that woman can have penises and penises are female, but all of them NEED boobs and cannot wait until HRT gives them preteen breast buds, no Matt how awful they look on their frame. They think it’s perfectly acceptable to fetishize breasts and center their “womanhood” around having them without regard to their biological purpose. That handmaiden above liked using the example of cancer survivors in her story but I really wonder what trans think of women who do not get reconstructive surgery and are still undeniably female.

No. 394264

>>394256
Exactly. If you even read back our threads, I don't think any of us ever said "look! They are flat chested! That means they are a man!" We remark on the chin, hairline, Adam's apple, hands, feet, muscle mass, brow, voice, narrow hips, rectangle body, damn near everything BUT breasts.

No. 394270

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>>393666
transgender ideology is terrible for women and it really stressed me out how it's taking hold in mainstream society, but I also like looking at pics of weird shit like birth defects. So I kinda like seeing troons fuck up their bodies if I pretend it's divorced from politics.

No. 394273

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No. 394280

>>394273
Except they couldn’t choose their skin color from birth, unlike the deranged men who think they’re suddenly women. Also, I swear they doing this to children also to just enhance the idea that one can’t decide to be transgender, one simply is. Trying to make them appear as if one can’t help it. It’s truly sickening to me.

No. 394282

>>394273
True. It’s also about changing rooms, domestic violence and rape shelters, prisons, sports and every other thing women have had to fight for but men have always had as a default. They don’t just want to pee, they want to abolish our ability to be safe from them when out in public. Just like how segregation was used to discourage black people from being involved in public life.

Or was that not the point he was trying to make?

No. 394297

>>394270
Me too anon, I get sick pleasure seeing fucked up neovags. Tifs' mutilated arms and bologna dicks just make me sad though. I feel like most of them could have been talked out of making horrible decisions like that.

No. 394298

>>394273

Remember when people tried to make "Asian Lives Matter" and "Native American Lives Matter" happen and the black community (rightly) said stop it, stop comparing your struggles to ours, stop co-opting our activism and come up with something of your own?

Funny how troons constantly steal and co-opt phrases and slogan and causes from everyone, including the black rights community, and nobody says anything. Troon privilege is real.

No. 394313

>>394273
I don't get why troons make such a big deal out of the bathroom issue. I mean if someone who looks vaguely female walks into the women's bathroom, goes inside a cubicle, does what they came to do, washes their hands and leaves, does anyone actually care? It only becomes an issue when the tranny wishes to harm women or children, as has already happened. The push for it to be enforced in law just feels like an erosion of the existing protections that are there to stop it.

No. 394319

>>394178
If he didn't troon out he'd straight out look like the Eggman guy right now, I can't unsee it

No. 394321

>>394313
They really shot themself in the foot over the bathroom stuff. Transsexuals in the past never made it an issue and no one gave that much of a shit. Now the spotlight on it only makes people all the more aware and wary (rightfully so).

No. 394333

>>394313
I don't get it either, I can't think of any time that anybody got violent with someone in a toilet over gender. I have seen loads of gay guys come into toilets with their girl friends so they could gossip and do their makeup together, or drunk girls use mens toilets to avoid waiting and it has caused arguments, there was never violence.
I'm Euro though, so maybe things are different in America where everyone carries a gun or whatever, so much of TRA here just seems to be parroting USA specific stuff anyway.

No. 394337

>>393044
Aright which one of you is this

No. 394338

>394139
>394280
They are absolutely pushing that narrative on children.
>Skyler began her social transition at four years old.

No. 394339

>>393991
I wish the trans movement was full of actual brave strong TIMs that shouted abuse at catcallers, and made sure that nobody was being sexually assaulted in their local areas at night, lending the strength of their bodies to support those smaller than them.
Why can't that be the reality? Instead of punching geriatric lesbians in LGBT marches or making tweets about the cotton ceiling?

Does anyone think the trans movement with split visibly, like how we have libfems and radfems? I doubt the older trans people who just got on with things can feel like they have anything in common with the current violent incels in rainbow anime wigs

No. 394374

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I already posted this on the Male Hate Thread but its related to GC without being too man hating
The Drama between this Idiot and ChapoTrapHouse TRA's

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No. 394376

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No. 394377

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No. 394407

>>394018
seriously, and besides, I have small boobs in the first place. there is no way in hell someone would suddenly think my 5'2" ass was a man because I had to get a masectomy

No. 394413

>>394204
Yeah, I still get emails from the Human Rights Campaign. They're so fucking embarrassing now. Fuck standing up for women or LGB or people imprisoned on bullshit charges or poor people/the homeless. Gotta cape for transwomen instead.

No. 394454

>>394337
This video is kinda incoherent. I wish she went point by point

No. 394455

>>394339
You can already see a split with the transmedicalists and tucutes but yes I think the split will just get wider. There are actually some chill GC/radfem trans people. I don't have have a problem with GC trans people at all

No. 394460

>>394377
Both of the people involved in this seem mentally retarded.

No. 394463

>>394455
gc radfem trans people? the fuck? this doesn't even make sense

No. 394464

>>394463
There are transmen in radfem circles. People who are dysphoric about their sex but know they are not literally the opposite sex.

No. 394487

>>394464
Those aren't transmen lol, they're dysphoric women. There's a lot of them and calling them trans is a little bit of an insult imo

No. 394492

>>394487
There are ones that still refer to themselves as transmen which is why I did. There's a handful of them on Tumblr too. Some refer to themselves as trans while other just say dysphoric female. I think the trans implies that they've taken some form of medical step

No. 394509

>>394492
I thought those were called detransitioners? I feel like someone who is calling themselves trans and gender critical is neither.

No. 394519

>>394509
Some people still transition to alleviate the dysphoria. I watched the pique resilience video "gender hurts" and about an hour in a lesbian comes up and talks about how her lesbian/GC groups still have transmen in them. Life is complicated

No. 394528

>>394374
chapo has gotten so embarrassing it’s sad lmao. nothing skeeves me out more than TRA left wing men

No. 394543

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No. 394544

>>394460
At least the dude dating the TIF knows he's retarded
the ChapoTrapHouse Troon thinks he's been justified telling the mentally ill suicidal man to kill himself because he's a "Transphobe"

No. 394546

>>394528
kek ikr? sad because i do like some of their bits (the caleb saga is hilarious). did anyone listen to contra on chapo? i couldn't bring myself to

No. 394549

Unpopular opinion Evil Terf edition
I really hate the word handmaiden, I feel like it's degrading (and especially on dunglr, with context)

No. 394552

>>394549
Same I feel like it's used too often and often used instead of refuting a point

No. 394558

>>394549
I’ve been wondering for a while, when people say handmaiden itt did it come from the book the handmaiden? Because that’s hoesntly a fucked up thing to call any woman, even those that you disagree with

No. 394559

>>394552
same
I feel it should be used but very scarcely but it gets used around so much in radfem circles that its lost its meaning

No. 394567

>>394549
>>394549
>>394552
>>394558
>>394559
Take this miserable fucking language policing to the radfem thread. I swear this fucking board has gotten a flood of dumbasses who only come here to be concerned over petty and meaningless things such as word choices and combined with the sudden "I actually think gender dysphoria is real because I know chill trannies who are not fake" replies in various threads and the "d-don't talk about children you creeps!!" autism makes me want to ask which tumblr blog lead you here. Handmaiden is a woman who throws her own gender under the bus to serve men and trannies, it's a perfectly descriptive and valid term and in this thread used in its original context.

No. 394574

>>394567
I don't think anyone is saying that it can't be used just that is gets thrown around a lot. It's ok to have disagreements

No. 394592

>>394567
I'm not saying it shouldn't be used I'm saying it gets used so much it losses its meaning
Like using "Nazi" as an Insult

No. 394593

>>394567
>d-don't talk about children you creeps!!"
what wrong with that ?

No. 394607

>>394593
>>394139
>>394138

Can they gtfo from my city. Russia is filled w only two types of grooms (and thanks god, you can't see them irl but over the internet): creepy fetishists that want to be an uwuanimegirl or fucking fujos.

No. 394608

>>394593
Nta but vulnerable children are being told that their feelings of insecurity and alienation stem from them being born in the wrong body and are being lied to about the reversibility and long term side effects of puberty blockers and HRT. Sweeping this under the rug because “omg don’t talk about children” is extremely unhelpful.

No. 394609

>>394607
I'm really interested in hearing about the Russian lgb and troon situation. There is a lot of awful news about Russia and homophobia as well. Could you tell us a little about it anon?

No. 394614

>>394607
If it makes you feel any better, that article is about St. Petersburg in Florida, not Russia. I agree with >>394609 though, I'd be interested to hear how troons are handled in Russia.

No. 394619

>>394546
I couldn’t listen to the contra episode either. I canceled my monthly Patreon and pretty much stopped listening to Chapo after that. I did watch their election coverage on twitch though. Was so posed when they said at the end that all the tips from that show we’re gonna be donated to trans lifeline. How can those dudes not know what a scam that “charity” is?

No. 394640

>>394593
Children are the most vulnerable individuals in the trans craze (see the transing kids phenomenon, Jazz, baby drag queens etc.) and they can't defend themselves. It's very weird mental gymnastics to call us "creeps" for discussing about how fucked it is

No. 394679

>>394640
It’s more projection. The people who don’t want to interfere with kids’ bodies are “creeps”, just like lesbians who don’t want to suck dick are “fetishists” and women who try to have an honest conversation are “violent”. TRAs tell you a lot about themselves once you’ve figured out how to listen.

No. 394705

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…so women cant reference periods ever otherwise they're a terf?

No. 394708

>>394705
Generally I don't like period art but jesus fucking christ do they take any chance to get angry at women for referencing their biology.

No. 394724

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>>394609
I'm not that anon, but I was born in russia and moved when I was child. I'd like to hear russia native anon opinon too, but what I noticed is that as long as someone in entertainment goes thru the motions of pretending to be straight no one seems to care how out of norms their behavior and presentation is. Some obvious gays-in-denial that I can think of off the top of my head are Phillip Kirkorov, Shura, Sergey Zverev and Gogen Solntsev. Some of them have even dragged their ass on dating shows looking for a girlfriend, generally beards tend to be older woman tho. Pic related got himself a long term older lady beard and then made her get plastic surgery to look better.

No. 394725

>>394724
if you're talking about the shura that google shows, it seems like she's out now.

No. 394727

>>394705
can women even mention female things without hurting uwu transgals' disphoric feelings? i wish i've known troons like these irl so that i could trigger them by talking about normal human things like periods, pregnancy and shit. it's amusing.

No. 394739

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>>394725
you're mistaken

No. 394746

>>394739
When I looked up Shura I got a Russian-English lesbian, who is out.

No. 394747

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This thread is hilarious.
http://boards.4channel.org/lgbt/thread/12188693#p12190158
>some anons talk about the risks of SRS
>triggered tranny calls everyone a "triggered incel who should take psych meds and spends all day shitposting about trannies", says all the evidence against SRS is fake, compares getting SRS to removing a tumor, calls "retarded troll" the anon who replies that it's a wrong comparison, says fakeginas and real vaginas are absolutely the same
This is further evidence that they're literally nuts

No. 394760

>>394054
they're always so adamant that there's no difference, it's insanity. i'd bet this troon has the same amount of experience with a real vagina as any other incel: none. you can't change your sex, i don't know why that fact won't go into their thick skulls. a neovag is still a dick, just chopped up and turned inside out. it doesn't magically change.

anybody who says shit like this (talking about how a neovag can get an infection like any other vagina is hilarious. do real ones get necrosis and die? have shit particles all up in them? hair? do they look like a creepy, oozing mess? do they need dialators to keep it from healing over?) has zero up-close experience with real ones and has no room to talk.

bit rich mentioning psych meds when they he sounds like a complete basketcase himself.

No. 394767

>>394727
The shura I meant was this singer who peaked in the late 90s.

he had a public girlfriend for a short time, but IDK anon Im not buying it lol.

No. 394768

>>394747
The mistake was engaging with them and trying to help in the first place. They DON'T want to be helped. Let them have their mutilation and an hero as a consequence.

No. 394769

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>>394747
This dude's plain insane, he most likely believes he's really smart and totally btfo'd the anon who pointed out his SRS=tumor removal false equivalence

No. 394771

>>394747
>Anon brings up risk of infection
>"Oh you mean like any pussy?"
No, like an artifical wound perpetually hellbent on closing itself, filled with intestinal bacteria, of which nearly 100% of cases would constitute a diagnosis of bacterial vaginosis if it were an actual vagina. All neovaginas studied have been shown to be overgrown with harmful bacteria (source: Microflora of the penile skin-lined neovagina of transsexual women). The authors of the study note that "a foul smell of the [neo]vagina was observed in most patients" which they linked to the presence of faecal bacteria, and that swab tests "revealed a mixed microflora that was even more complex and denser than the one observed in biological women with bacterial vaginosis" which is "more difficult to cure" than that of biological women and that "the neovagina … does not offer the colonisation resistance to such opportunistic pathogens observed among biological women." They finally conclude that as of now there is no proper advice for keeping a neovagina hygienic or solving the high rates of irritation and almost universal foul smelling infected discharge of the neovagina.

No. 394774

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No. 394775

This is a good response to the latest ContraPoints Video.

No. 394783

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No. 394788

>>394783
>I totally agree with this person until someone says they're a terf
like what, do women need male attention so much they'll let them dictate who to talk to now?

No. 394793

>>394771
Thanks anon now I feel sick.

No. 394832

>>394783
wow this is pathetic

No. 394840

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No. 394843

>>394840
Damn this is sad

No. 394845

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No. 394846

>>394845
This analogy really doesn't work I know contra used something similar in his last video… But you can legally change your citizenship status and while you can do the same thing for your sex on documents you can't really change your sex.

No. 394847

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>>394840
>Micro results showed necrotic cancer pieces in polymicrobial abcess soup
What the fuck

No. 394849

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>>394846
I clicked the article and honestly couldn't read past the first sentence where he mentioned a 9 year old hispanic girl who is U.S. citizen being detained for 30 hours, I knew it was going to be a shit show after that…

No. 394856

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>>394840
jesus fucking christ

No. 394863

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Is it possible to tell Sexes apart just by Smell ?

No. 394865

>>394863
This guy is definitely a cow but I'm not sure he really needs to be posted here

No. 394866

>>394865
I just admire him from afar
he makes some good points at times but also weird rants that make no sense

>I have been punched in the nose and in the head and more times then i can count and maybe thats effected my sense of smell


>I do plan on dying in about 5 years but don't have a specific plan on how I'll do it maybe acquire a firearm or maybe i'll just jump


>I don't know about other men but I have always felt I had "defective" genes or "monster" genes

No. 394904

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What a well earned accomplishment I'm entirely sure.

No. 394908

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>>393666

Update for anyone curious.

No. 394917

>>394747
reminds me of when my old friends stayed with a troon while traveling and he got so triggered from seeing one of them in a bra/underwear that he stopped talking to them and sulked like a child the rest of the trip

No. 394922

>>394917
these trannies are so overly sensitive lol

No. 394937

File: 1554361244075.png (Spoiler Image,1.37 MB, 756x1316, 1554360851889.png)

Buck Angel's Instagram post of an atrophy of a trans man from being on hrt.

No. 394938

>>394937
At least they're trying to raise awareness about it

No. 394942

>>394937
i dont understand. what am i looking at here?

No. 394943

>>394942
I'm not sure but I assume it's the result of atrophic vaginitis.

>Symptoms include vaginal dryness or irritation, especially during sexual activity, vaginal bleeding, vaginal discharge, and changes in urination.

No. 394946

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>>394937
>Vaginal atrophy 3-6 months after starting testosterone.
https://bust.com/sex/195055-trans-man-gyneologist-advice-buck-angel.html
>The atrophy fused my uterus and my cervix together, along with my ovaries and everything else, creating an infection that burst and became septic. The gynecologists who kept sending me home and telling me nothing was wrong could have prevented this from happening if they knew anything about trans men and testosterone.

No. 394947

>>394946
Given most people/doctors don't know the long term effects of hrt on males and females idk how they could have known?

No. 394948

>>394946
>>394937
>>394840

This is the kind of shit that made me hit peak trans. A lot of trans people are mentally ill/vulnerable people who are being taken advantage of and being used as guinea pigs.

Not only does the trans ideology threaten women and girls, it mutilates those who don't align with gender the 'right way'. All while also giving a 'minority' pin to all the wolves in sheeps clothing.

No. 394949

>>394937
>educating the health care system
What do they expect to happen, exactly? This is kind of on them for fucking around with something they shouldn’t, I imagine doctors let them know about the array of side effects - it’s not like they can make those side effects just disappear

No. 394950

>At the time, however (this was the early 1990s), even my own doctor told me I was basically a guinea pig. The medical community had no idea what the long-term use of testosterone would do to my genetically female body—especially my reproductive system. When my doctor presented me with paperwork that would absolve him of responsibility should anything go wrong, I signed it. For me, this has always been a matter of life or death.

It seems like both MtF and FtM commonly experience septic shock, surprise! I hope there's no legal way he can try to make this some kind of class action law suit when they knew what they were signing up for. Being guinea pigs.

No. 394970

>>394946
>>394947
>>394949
I love how she blames it doctor's lack of knowledge on the effects of hrt when the trans community is always trying to shut down any research into negative effects of hrt, puberty blockers, etc. You're not allowed to do research that doesn't 100% encourage transitioning, and then they're surprised when they experience the inevitable negative side effects of fucking with your hormones. I want to feel bad for them, but they foster this ignorance and turn any naysayers into pariahs. You'd think they'd be willing to cede at least some ground for the sake of their own health but I guess not.

No. 394974

>>394863
Well in seriousness, I would think animals with stronger smell than humans could smell sexes easily. For example the dog that hated all men including TiMS lmao

No. 394979

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its a fetish

No. 394985

>>394904
I know it's for good pr, but why Jazz? Jazz seems borderline retarded. What academic merits could he really have under his crazy mother's home schooling (even if he has tutors- I'm unsure)? Plus,imagine what HRT has probably done to his brain.

No. 394988

>>394908
>#pussyboy
looks like when cosplayers put stubble on with makeup.

No. 395002

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>>394904
Fucking gender studies lmao. Imagine going to Harvard to get a degree in gender studies.

It also really bothers me that he's defending his acceptance because of his ~advocacy~. Malala Yousafzai is a girl who did real advocacy for real women and had to deal with a way lot worse shit than coddled Jazz ever has. And she got into Oxford, and nobody had to question it, because she clearly deserved it.

>>394985
Can't find the article but apparently Jazz's brother came out in defense of Jazz and said he was top in his class out of 113 people and his GPA is a weighted 5.4 (I'm assuming out of 6). No offense to any Florida anons but I don't really take in that high regard considering how a lot of the school systems down there are… not great. And a 5.4/6 converts to a 3.6 unweighted which isn't bad but it is absolutely not Harvard material.

No. 395008

>>395002
Imagine how awkward it must be to have someone in your gender studies class whose fame and credentials revolve around his gender issues and (botched) SRS. Do classes like this hold debates? It would be practically impossible to disagree with any TRA talking points without him taking it personally and kicking up a stink.

No. 395010

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Why are they so cringe?

No. 395012

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BARF

No. 395013

>>395002
Plus, Malala's activism STARTED with being attacked for attempting to pursue education while female.

Like, education was tied to her public activism right from the start, giving even more reason for her to go to a prestigious college.

What has Jazz done regarding education? Nothing

No. 395015

>>395010
Arrested development

No. 395016

>>395012
>I swear officer, the child was coming on to me!

No. 395020

>>395012
> dick hungry lesbians
> dick hungry
> lesbians

??? i think this person is missing a few braincells.

also, speaking about kids as being "dick hungry" and "cock monsters" is disgusting, but i'm not surprised. these people are degenerates who regularly say suspicious and noncy shit about little girls fr. either that or they want to wear their skin.

why is your nasty dick even out for them to see in the first place? i'm sure they don't just 'sense' a troon in the stall next to them and crawl under to have a look at their shrivelled estrogen dick. i've never seen a single vagina out in the women's bathrooms, accidental or otherwise. why is this an issue now men are involved?

No. 395021

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/04/707685268/violence-against-women-act-gets-tangled-up-in-gun-rights-debate

So a bill designed to protect women from violent abusers is probably going to be rejected today in part because Democrats tried to tack transgender rights onto it. In particular, they wanted to expand access to trannies in women's shelters and other vulnerable women's spaces. So women lose either way.

I'm left leaning moderate but this shit is going to alienate me and people like me. I'm so frustrated that now women have to carry the burden of transgender rights whether we like it or not. We have our own battles to wage, let trannies work out their own bullshit like women have for centuries.

No. 395022

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>>394747
He believes that at some point the wound heals… let that sink in. Dude's in for a big surprise (and premature death)
Also
>"Saying something I don't like means you just want to fuck me!"
>"Trans is not a mental disorder!"
>all that projecting
Unironically Onision-tier NPD speech

No. 395024

>>395013
>>395002
To add on to that, Malala's grades hold up - she got straight As at a-level (end of high school equivalent) and quite a lot of A* at GCSE - so clearly actually intelligent. Exams/coursework are graded anonymously so there's no way to fake it.

No. 395029

>>395013
>Plus, Malala's activism STARTED with being attacked for attempting to pursue education while female.
She was actually already an activist before her attack and had received death threats from Talibans. The attack was an assassination attempt where Malala was directly targeted.
She's a hundred times braver than any TRA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai#Early_activism

No. 395037

>>395012
>52 likes on that post
I want to vomit. And they wonder why we don't want them in bathrooms, locker rooms or really anywhere near children or women?
This post might as well have been him screaming "I AM A NONCE WHO WILL RAPE YOUR KIDS AND THEN VICTIM BLAME THEM UWU" into a megaphone on a busy street, and idiot passer-bys clapping for #transrights.

No. 395054

>>394845
Change that to economic migrant and he got himself an accurate comparison of a trans.

Majority of them are able bodied males? Check.
Pretending to be someone they’re not? Check.
Coming from more fortunate, privileged background? Check.
Demanding spaces meant for other groups of people? Check.
Making scandals when people say they are falsely representing disadvantaged group? Check.
Demanding donations for their pretend status of victim? Check.
Pretending to desperately want to escape confinement of who they are, but still acting their old, violent ways they have been brought up with? Check, check, check.

No. 395060

>>395021
Most of the article is babbling about the NRA too, with little mention of the trans thing all together. They really don't care about women, only about attacking whatever convenient opponent they have at the time.

No. 395069

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No. 395070

>>395012
Calling an 8 year old a "cock monster", "dick hungry" or "horny" should be grounds for getting banned from any and all public restrooms.

No. 395079

>>394609
>>394614
I'm sorry, I thought that they meant Russia in article aswell till i clicked on it. My bad! And anon from >>394724 it absolutely right. The only kind of sexuality that is accepted around our media/etc are lesbians, and only in fiction LOL. if someone finds out that some star etc is a lesbian, they start screaming that she needs a man etc. And like i said before, the only troons that u can meet are basically creepy sissy fetishists (that are 30+ years old), NEETs who have watched a ton of (usually yandere) anime and are all about uwu shoujo ai!! Nyaa! owo thigh highs + trap hype, and of course, our good old fujos. I am glad that FtM fujos are more common than the worst type of trannies, MtF.If you tell people that you are bisexual or gay, they would either shrug it off, saying that homosexuality does not exist (if you are a girl) or will throw you creep status and will try to distance from u or talk shit about u (both). In Russia, females n males are forced into gender roles/etc since the very (and through) early childhood. All about patriarchy here/etc, but honestly ,its so much better than watching creeps in dresses calling their dicks female n being _transbians_ like in uk or usa.

No. 395086

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I love straw man arguments. Obviously abolishing gender involves abolishing sex segregated spaces and allowing men who "feel" like women (read: men who feel more comfortable in the stereotypes assigned to women- something we actually do want to abolish) to invade female sex segregated spaces.

What fucking dumbasses.

No. 395090

>>395086
Why do they always latch onto intersex people? The majority of trans people are not intersex, they don't talk about intersex issues, and I'm yet to see a community of intersex TRAs.

No. 395092

I need some advice from everyone. My sister in law started dating someone and recently brought the individual to a family event. I clocked her as a TiM from the moment I saw her. SiL has always been an sjw tumblrina type, and has always had bad taste in men. Recently started bitching about gender and how everyone is a little bit gay and w/e. Should have been a red flag. The question is, how should I interact? Its family, so constant drama is gross, and we see that part of the family really often. I also don;t want to be a pussy enabler of all this bullshit. I also don't want the TiM to stick around, because if I have children someday I think they should grow up without mentally ill rolemodels. :/ Do I refuse to play along with the fantasy, and cause friction, or do I keep my mouth shut and hope they break up soon?

No. 395098

>>395092
I don't doubt the relationship will fail. Your SiL is obviously straight (with the "everyone is a little gay" sort of thing) and compensating for it by dating a woman who dresses like a man. Being straight in SJW circles is a death sentence.

I would just give it time.

No. 395114

>>395092
>>395098
yeah anon I doubt it will last, but I get you, it's frustrating and obnoxious to be around people like that. I just think being honest as tempting as it is will just cause problems for you and your SO. People are vicious to gender crit women, one reason I;ve never said anything gender crit publicly except to my mother and SO. I know it sucks but I feel gender crit opinions may become more acceptable with time, once people realize what awful things hormone replacement therapy and "sex changes" (genital mutilation) does to people's bodies. Keep your head up my thoughts are with you

No. 395115

>>395086
radfem: we are going to abolish gender
troon: oh so we won't use gendered pronouns anymore?
radfem: i mean, that could be one outcome. however what we are more concerned with is the pervasive social idea that certain behaviours and personality traits are inherently female, like submissiveness, quietness, and being less intelligent. we also don't think that women should be forced into prescriptive femininity, and punished via social shaming or loss of income for choosing not to conform to gendered beauty norms. but sure, i guess pronouns could go too.
troon: TERF

No. 395128

>>395098
>>395114
Do you ever think though that hiding these feelings is what is letting all of the craziness spread? My SiL has never heard the word no before in her life. Her parents protected and coddled their precious baby from anything that might upset her. If my SO disagrees with her, she shuts down and can't continue the subject due to "anxiety," even if she brought up the subject in the first place. I think a lot of SJWs stay in their little cult because the others are so vicious and jump on them for wrongthink. If the people who actually cared about them brought up the mental gymnastics and insanity that is so obvious to us, might it not make a bigger difference?

I don't hate my SiL, she cares about people and has a really good heart. She is very sheltered and that often frustrates me. I think my inlaws did her a terrible disservice by not treating her as a capable human growing up, and she is paying for it now as an adult. She clearly isn't happy: she's gained a lot of weight in the last few months. The tranny she's dating is morbidly obese and appears so uncomfortable with herself it makes me cringe. I think I'm more sad than anything. No one said anything about her last bf being trash, and she stayed with him for too long and got more fucked up as a result. I want her to be happy and staying with someone who hates herself so much she rejects her own sex is not going to do that.

No. 395130

>>395128
That's a great point you're raising. I guess I would feel it out and see if she's one of those people to cut you off for disagreeing? I went to art school so I know a lot of people who preach physical assault or making gender crit women societal pariahs. The way I approached the topic with my mother (who previously called herself a trans ally) was I showed her a news story about a woman dying after getting a sex change, and the magdalen berns video about the tranny assaulting the old woman at a protest. It's not an exact science but I hope this helps. My best friend was a FTM and it was hard to see her go down that self hating path.

No. 395132

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>>395092
>her
It likely won't last long.

No. 395139

>>395128
>Do you ever think though that hiding these feelings is what is letting all of the craziness spread?
honestly, she's going to run into someone who will try to put some sense into her, but she won't realize it until months, maybe years later. that person could be you, or it could be another family member. possibly closer to her.
i had an aunt that basically told me my troon ex was just a confused gay man and he's going to end up dating another man. she was right. didn't realize it until months later. i got over my sjw phase a year after breaking up with my ex. did i hate my aunt for telling me that during that sjw phase? no.
i think i know how your SiL could be doing mentally right now, so i dunno, maybe ease it onto her in a more private setting. she most likely won't tell her boyfriend about what you told her.

No. 395141

>>395139
>>395092
>>395132

Ah crap. I wrote TiM but its a TiF. SiL brought home a girl who clearly doesn't like herself, gained enough weight to become a blob and is calling herself male now. Sorry for confusing the issue.

No. 395143

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No. 395146

>>395143
Brighton. Colour me not surprised.

No. 395152

>>395143
What the hell is up with England and Canada/BC? All the craziest shit seems to be coming from there.

No. 395153

>>394904
Ivy leagues doing this isn't surprising. But it's so tiring. We're still in the middle of that college bribery scandals too.

>>395070
TRAs and troons truly want kids to be sexualized and exposed to their fetish early. Only makes me hit peak trans more going after kids. Calling them derogatory names like that sounds so pedophilic jfc

>>395021
I do want women to be 2a if their country allows it. The more protected we are, I think the better. But to lump women with trans rights like that just goes to show you that neither political side is really pro women. Anons in other threads like the MH one pointed out that. Liberals will protect tras quicker and demonize women for being terfs whenever we're concerned about our safety and spaces. Conservatives don't care about women besides being victorian era wombs - seen but never heard. Idk what's the solution than to protect yourself however you can. And to donate to places that are being attacked by tras like rape relief centers

No. 395162

>>395152
I can only speak for the UK, but it's gross that trans people get more visibility then disabled people. The theory I've heard is that since the transition process is extremely expensive, the NHS are using troons to get more funding. I don't even think a lot of liberal politicians are even pro-trans, they just seem to be going a long with it so that they don't get forced to resign.

No. 395170

>>395141
Lol don't worry anon, I figured it was a TiF when you called her female

No. 395196

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Listen I can tolerate the gender as a spectrum bullshit but sex? What?

No. 395199

>>395196
This is ridiculous. They're trying to normalize congenital disorders. It's like saying there's a metabolic spectrum and that people with diabetes are just on a spectrum and aren't suffering from a disorder. This is all not optimal functioning. Trying to normalize disorders will have very bad effects on intersex people who need medical help in America. Insurance companies would be so fucking happy to not cover necessary procedures for them.

No. 395200

>>395196
Ugh. They're really trying to normalize actual, literal, unhealthy abnormalities while calling women who are definitely not intersex intersex just because they want to be accepted.

Polycystic ovarian syndrome doesn't make someone intersex. Most trans identified people are not intersex either. They constantly use intersex people as a backboard for their shit but they have nothing to do with each other.

No. 395202

>>395200
10% of women have PCOS and PCOS can literally be brought on by weight gain. It's not even necessarily genetic, and obv not an intersex condition. Disgusting.

No. 395203

>>395021
I just saw that this got renewed. The NPR article updated with info. To no ones shock, every other news article about this doesn't mention the trans thing at all, and only focuses on the stupid spat between the NRA and the Democrats.

>There are other objections. Republicans also oppose a new provision to allow U.S. citizens to be tried in tribal courts for crimes of domestic or dating violence committed by non-native perpetrators on native lands; a provision to create a pathway for an "alternative justice response" as a form of mediation between victims and abusers; and the expansion of existing protections to include transgender victims. Rep. Debbie Lesko, R-Ariz., an abuse survivor, attempted to strip provisions that would allow transgender women access to shelters and the ability to serve in prisons that align with the sex with which they identify, but it failed along party lines. Republicans want those access and sentencing guidelines to continue to correspond with biological sex assigned at birth.

No. 395251

so my country aired a documentary series on detrantisioning. the troons have gone absolutely ballistic on social media using suicide threats and claiming that it's going to make it harder to get "treatment"

No. 395257

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>I’m not saying that we have to abolish the system of gender completely, but it’s fundamental that we stop categorizing and socializing children according to their biology
>Attempts to change his biology to conform to gender stereotypes

No. 395261

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>>395257

But don't worry your pretty little heads, ladies, because troonery is love!

No. 395263

>>395251

Where is this? Links?

No. 395271

File: 1554442700712.jpg (1.06 MB, 1277x1826, 1554440849870.jpg)

/r9k/ discord that wants to enforce hrt on children and infect water treatment plants with hormones. Despicable fucks. I feel sorry for anyone with a young son who may stumble into this shit.

No. 395273

>>395271
like that's not even funny as a joke. estradiol is the most mutagenic estrogen. i really hope these trannies end up with cancer because literally they refuse to accept that playing with hormones is fucking dangerous.

No. 395302

>>395086
I don't get their obsession with pronouns. They are just words meant to differentiate male humans from female humans. That's what words do, categorize things so we can communicate clearly. How would abolishing pronouns destroy gender stereotypes in any way?

No. 395307

>>395251
Do you mean this Swedish documentary about female trans regretters and how girls are pressured into transition by health care "professionals"?
https://www.svtplay.se/video/21717158/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-sasong-20-avsnitt-12
I am so happy SVT dared to bring up this issue.
One of the interviewed girls is anonymous because she is afraid of the trans community's reaction. They're a fucking mafia.

No. 395308

>>395307
Yes. My facebook is full of troon "friends" crying about THEIR trannyism and encouraging us to share their "illuminating" posts which basically just call the doc transphobic and "literally killing us"

No. 395309

>>395308
>>395307
Swedish twitter is also full of RREEEEEEEEEing right now and it's pretty scary

No. 395310

>>395308
>>395309
Those who have seen the documentary will probably be unimpressed by mentally ill tantrums though.
Damn, it was good. Really brought home how unscientific transition is and how the doctors are playing with young women's lives.

No. 395313

>>395310
IDK, mentally ill tantrums got us here. Women really get the worst of it though, social contagion hits them harder and there's a significant overlap between autism/EDs and trooning. Glad I never fell for it.

No. 395315

>>395313
By the way, are fellow gc Swedes itt following the developments around self-id?

No. 395316

>>395315
no, just saw a twitter troon yell about it. What's the verdict?

No. 395317

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No. 395319

>>395316
This article mentions it
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/lakare-varnar-ungdomar-angrar-konskorrigeringar/
Looks like there is resistance against it, thankfully.

No. 395320

>>387355
Likely because black culture is itself extremely misogynistic and homophobic.

If anyone is going to call out a troon to their face, it will almost certainly be a black person.

Not trying to defend troons, just saying that it makes sense that they would clash so often with blacks.

No. 395322

File: 1554465913438.png (144.67 KB, 600x1339, 46-600x1339.png)

>1. Aren't they the loudest when it came to separating men from women?

>2. This is not itㅡㅡ


>3. Shameless


>4. Trangender people should compete against transgender people


>5. I'm sure that this is gonna be the future of Olympics, although I don't want it to happen


>6. They shouldn't allow this to be honest


>7. For sports, they should really discriminate based on physical abilities…


>8. No but their bodies are still those of mens'ㅋ


>9. The physical abilities are inherently different


>10. Are they joking? Their physical abilities are still the same as men


ttps://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/04/theqoo-trigger-controversial-topic-in.html?m=1

even korean ppl get it why is it so hard for westerners? too many libtards i guess

No. 395329

>>395307
You realize how truly malicious TRA's intentions are when they actively shut up detransitioners. The Pique Resilience girls have also been called "terfs" literally just for sharing their story. God forbid someone reveals that transitioning is not all sunshine and puppy dogs and decides to get therapy, instead of cancer inducing hormones and horrifying surgeries.
It's like they actively want other people to suffer. Misery loves company, I guess.

>>395322
People who have it worse can't be fooled by dumb rhetoric. If you notice, the places that are more affected by misogyny have the smallest amount of libfems: Korea, China, South America, Africa… there are a lot of radfems there. Why? Because the human embodiment of a libfem is a 1st world bored college student who lives a cushy, privileged life and can afford to use feminism as a prop, just a "quirky" line to add on their Tinder bio. They're not actually interested in feminist discussions or researches, they just spew whatever they hear on social media without critical thought.

No. 395338

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>>395317
kek this man's twitter is full of cis-hate and he is callig himself a 'transbian'

No. 395345

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>>395338
Hahaha , Sweden is transbian hell

No. 395347

>>394970
>>395329
>God forbid someone reveals that transitioning is not all sunshine and puppy dogs and decides to get therapy, instead of cancer inducing hormones and horrifying surgeries.
TRAs will only have themselves to blame when they start suffering from cancer, sepsis and other predicable consequences of HRT and SRS, but I'm sure that once the major pushback starts they'll still play the victim and hitch their wagons to the activism of the actual victims who were lied to and transed as children. I'm sure many of them will get away with it, too.

No. 395350

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No. 395353

>>395338
Why do so many troons have their ugly mouths open in their photos?
Is this some manga/animate shit they're mimicking?
They look so punchable.

No. 395354

>>395353
I mean, mouth with visible tongue sticking out. yuck.

No. 395357

>>395353
>Is this some manga/animate shit they're mimicking?
dude obviously, all of them are disgusting weebs that want to be anime girls

No. 395360

>>395345
>scared to live in Sweden
>the most PC place in all Europe
Send the faggot to Brazil, so he can understand what discrimination and being scared for your life really means

No. 395373

>>395350
>has remained a mentally ill misogynist all his life
>admits that he drove away all the people who were still friends with him with his retarded, shitty actions
>is now a less ugly, still hateful misogynist who attacks women while wanting to be one
What are we supposed to take away from this? Should we be feeling bad for this narcissist? Does he think this story makes him sound like the victim?

No. 395375

>>395338
huh. i guess every man with low testosterone and cone tits is now biologically female, going by this childish logic.

No. 395377

>>395350
I'm glad this pathetic loser didn't drag anyone down with him. It's always tragic when these incels have someone that decides to stick with them for better or worse.

No. 395380

>>395257
>we aren't mentally ill uwu
>many fall into cluster b
>will break down at the mention of basic biology and detransitioning and threaten suicide
>many threaten extreme violence against women for speaking up for their safety and concerns
>still expects insurance to pay for cosmetic procedures
>encourages young children to choose permenant choices on their body and highly sexualize them

>>395329
>misery loves company
they're mentally ill men not wanting to be alone so they drag others down with them. Instead of going to therapy, they want the whole world to be group therapy

No. 395397

>>395353
I agree anon. I love it how everytime a trannie is a mentally ill douche n a fetishist they always take this kind of a selfie. wtf

No. 395431

>>395350
>Women are fucking retarded. I hate them all so much.
So either this genius hates himself or doesn't view himself as a woman.

Why are we letting violently misogynistic incels in our spaces again?

Also, women were flirting with you? Sure, Jan. It's called being kind out of pity you sped.

No. 395453

>>395345
>W-WHY CAN'T YOU INTERVIEW PEOPLE WHO ARE HAPPY WITH THEIR TRANSITION YOU NEED SOME PERSPECTIVE
Jesus christ they're like 99% of the tranny voices heard, you're just assblasted someone who doesn't coddle to your ideology gets to say something

>>395350
What a pathetic piece of shit. How dare he parade around as a "lesbian" and then literally say "Women are fucking retarded, disgusting fucking cunts I hate them all so much"? Why does this asshole want to be a woman again?

No. 395462

>>395373
Angry incel hates that women are happier and safer with other women around. It's been proven that we trust each other more yet he hates that? Idk he sounds retarded and bitter. Wish more of these posts went viral to show how troons aren't peacefully living their lives. It's all just bitterness and misogyny that's fueling tras

>>395453
>why does he want to be a woman
It's a fetish. He doesn't want to be a normal woman, he probably wants to be a sex doll. Never forget that one guy who was trans but stopped when he was faced with misogyny and couldn't handle it. Wish I can find that post. It was posted on one of these threads

No. 395470

>>395329
>>395360
It's always fun to see the disparity of thought between countries, and of course people scrambling to rub their american-centric views all over a different country.
>N-No! It isn't a competition! There are transgender people in X country too!
Is the usual rethoric thrown. I think some of these people need a little free trip to south america or the middle east, maybe then they'll recognize just how lax their lives are in a cushy first world country.

No. 395618

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>>395309
My favorite reaction so far, very articulate
>This is terf rhetoric 101 lmfaodgjfgmjkgmfkgm idiots

No. 395628

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/tttt/ offers interesting chances to peek in an AGP's mind.
Pictured: a giant "NO U" projection from a delulu troon.

No. 395633

>>395628
idk, could narcissism in troons explain… everything?

to not kiss the ass of TRAs is to be undiagnosed autistic now? not sitting back and cheering them on while they shit out lies and misinformation is to have some sort of mental disorder? don't think so.

we relate to people just fine, just not people who try to force their ridiculous beliefs on us, while in the same breath threatening violence, fetishizing us and demanding our resources. why should anybody have empathy for people so selfish and entitled and delusional? they don't give a single shit about "cis" women, as evident by trying to close shelters and whatnot. they don't care about our feelings or experiences, so why should we care about them?

No. 395634

>>395628
>women point out that using synthetic hormones, getting plastic surgery, and mutilating your genitals doesn’t magically change your sex
>somehow that makes us autistic
>meanwhile OP is a troon posting on 4chan

TIMs have to stop projecting their problems onto women. Also, why do TIMs never go after men, who are the most likely to be violent against troons? The misogyny is so obvious, it’s insulting they think they could ever be one of us.

No. 395641

>>395628
Holy shit, they project just like regular men do. It's been proven by multiple studies that autism is very very common in troons.

No. 395693

>>395628
You know, on tumblr I came across a post an anti-terf/TRA person made saying that autistic radfems/terfs probably believe in that radfem ideology because they are autistic and they don't know any better. That person believed terfs were being brainwashed and taken advantaged of and "recruited to the radfem cult". The lack of self-awareness with that OP astounded me…

No. 395700

>>395693
it’s pure projection. they’re co-opting radfem’s valid observations based on reality and are portraying women stating the obvious as delusional/autistic so they can devalue our opinions and silence our voices.

just like all men do.

the maleness and misogyny of TRAs is so blatant.

No. 395728

>>395700
Why can't libfems realize this misogyny too? For how they see it in benign shit like man spreading, they can't notice it in tras when they're openly telling women to shut up about real biology and defunding rape relief centers.

No. 395729

>>395728
They will make any excuse to hate women. If they think Radfems are all autistic, then why do they advocate punching and killing them all the time? Sounds ableist if you ask me!

No. 395730

which male celeb do you guys think will troon out next? my money is on gerard way although i hope to god not. its mostly just because all his comic stuff has the type of strong alt girl who is also sexy stuff that troons are obsessed with.
also related: why do troons love generic alt girls so much? think life is strange or any hawt gamer girl love intrest from a shitty male centered work. i once read about some gross agp being sad about no1 wanting his peen so he danced around to bikini kill in his underwear. or how they all wear denim vests and plaid skirts lmao.

No. 395731

>>395730
Ezra Miller or something. Once they're wearing dresses in public it puts them on the pipeline to troonery

No. 395735

>>395730
>Why do troons love alt girls?

Same reason normal male nerds do. Troons are almost universally nerds.

No. 395738

>>395735
This. See the "big titty goth gf" neckbeard fantasy

No. 395761

>>395628
Not accepting their unscientific ideology is "autism" now. So all it takes to be autistic is to be firmly rooted in reality and have a functioning brain that can identify logical fallacies? Troons are so fucking delusional it's sad. The truth hurts.

No. 395781

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Not surprised. I don’t even hate drag, but who seriously thought this was a good idea?

No. 395918

>>395781
Not surprising. I wonder if kids ever panic at these events. I know I would have. Clowns are scary.

No. 396033

>>395781
This has to be a fucking joke.

How many regular children's story time readers are also sexual criminals?
Why the fuck is the percentage of men who abuse children/commit sexual crimes so high in the trans community?

No. 396068

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I swear to God they know how ridiculous they look

No. 396071

>>396068
lmao to be fair, thats pretty much what instahos look like without the perfectly executed photos and retouching. but unsurprising a man posing as a lady offers up this stupid clown characterization of their image of a woman.

No. 396076

>>396033
Why aren't they doing background checks on the readers?

No. 396078

File: 1554660497968.jpeg (260.58 KB, 750x547, DC35F87F-8CF4-476C-BD45-270933…)

check: disgusting tongue out selfie, "girl", obsession with altgirls

No. 396079

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No. 396081

>>396076
Because that would be transphobic.

No. 396082

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>>396079
#girlslikeus uwu

No. 396084

>>396068
Anon this is a jump scare

No. 396085

>>396082
All women can relate to taking off bras after a long day. But now men have to shoehorn their fucked up fantasies and call it just one of the girls right ladies uwu they clock themselves faster than we do

No. 396087

>>396082
We can't even mention the word vagina without being told we're murdering thousands of brave and stunning trans gals but they can write shit like this.

No. 396091

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>>395730
god, i said in another thread around the time umbrella academy started on netflix that he looks like he's started going by Geraldine and taken up speedrunning. I'm glad it's not just me.

No. 396094

>>396091
Wtf happened?? Wasn’t he kinda cute back in like 2005/6 omg

No. 396095

>>396094
He got fat and old and started working for DC.

No. 396100

>>396091
Pls don't terrify me like this anons. Gerard is fat and unkempt now but I want to believe he's just chilling basking in his wealth and done with being slobbered over by fans. It was also nice seeing him being a guy wearing makeup back in the day without being a drag queen or troon; guys need to learn that they can like things like that without turning womanhood into a joke or costume.

No. 396110

>>396091
He has a hot wife that gets to shag him and not me. Sad.

No. 396119

File: 1554668691958.png (116.99 KB, 1303x284, agp.png)

>Why should I feel like a fetishist for being turned on by the idea of dressing and acting as a girl? It's normal! I'm not an AGP I swear!

No. 396127

>>396119
>"identifying" with actor/actress while watching porn

TIMs always say this… Do most people actually do this "self-insert" thing when watching porn? I focus on the most attractive person, but I'm not identifying with or like pretending I'm that person…I just like looking at hot person.

maybe i should post this in stupid questions, sorry if i'm derailing here

No. 396129

>>396127
I don't really watch porn anymore, but even when I did, I don't remember of ever "identifying" with anyone… the troon is just a weirdo

No. 396160

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No. 396161

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>>396160
Definitely not a fetish…

No. 396171

Part 2 of the ContraPoints response.

No. 396189

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb_QyOsoHv8

>Gigi Gorgeous, her fiance Nat Getty on engagement, having kids and her new book


The comment section isn't buying it(embed youtube links)

No. 396196

>>396160
>incels skinwalking women

>>396161
>openly admitting this
>gets pissed off when people call them out on it

Wasnt there a doctor who talked about the influence of anime/internet culture on trans kids and mtfs and who got harassed for his opinions too

No. 396197

>>396161
This is next level insane.

It's one thing to look at a hypersexualized real woman, but it's a whole nother ballpark to say you want to look like the anime girls you cried yourself to sleep fapping to when you still "identified" as an incel

No. 396214

>>396171
I appreciate the points made in this video, but it is infuriating that just because a male says this stuff, it's taken more seriously.
Everything he's said has been said by many, many women before, only it has been labeled as hate and "literal violence".
I know he makes a cheeky mention of this in the video, but the point still stands.
Nothing women say will ever be taken seriously if we continue being "nice".

No. 396215

>>396214
Tbh it pisses me off that he says Nick passes. There's nothing that makes them more entitled and overly confident than getting affirmation from people they disagree with that they pass. And Nick does not. Not even remotely. I don't know if he's blind or just being generous but troons can NEVER be told they pass.

No. 396220

>>395317
Why do all trannies stick their fucking tongues out of their mouths such gross shit

No. 396221

>>396171
is this the same guy on r/GenderCriticalGuys who punches walls when he's drunk

No. 396223

>>396221
>>396221
No Confucius is American and is not particularly intelligent. This guy is fairly intelligent.

No. 396234

>>396215
Men do seem to often have a bizarre kind of facial blindness. I've been able to clock many TIMs immediately and men have been shocked. I don't know if it's a biological or social thing, but women seem to be way better at noticing subtle differences and things that seem off.

Not that there's anything subtle about Nyk's ability to pass. He doesn't. I'll admit his hair or makeup can look pretty sometimes, but he is still very obviously male.

No. 396249

>>396160
i feel like an actual female would have fixed her hair, done her eye brows, not taken it at a shitty myspace angle and cleaned up the room behind her lmao.

No. 396253

>>396249
Anon he probably only deals with sloppy camgirls lol
god i know dudes like this who honestly think they've become a 'gamer girl'.

No. 396256

>>396082
Yeah, posting every dumb thought you have on Twitter is pretty nice, but have you ever tried shutting the fuck up?

No. 396280

>>396234
Most (straight) men couldn't even clock a full blown drag queen. They see makeup, long hair, dress. That's a woman. They don't look much harder than that.

No. 396281

>>396249
Then you're imposing the standard actual women are supposed to do, I know the importance of grooming but I feel like this is getting a bit petty.

Or else this one looked just like someone I know who trooned out, very nerdy and quiet. Then goes on about "omg i have boobs and emotions" after taking HRT… It's all fetish and incel fantasy

No. 396282

>>396129
It's a man thing. They imagine themselves usually to be the man fucking the woman. This is just the other way around.

No. 396291

>>396171
I really thought his first video had some good points but his whole policing of the word tranny was just so stupid and unnecessarily drawn out for being gender critical he’s really worried about the ~feewings~ of troons he should have just aknowlaged that he had the luxury of being able to engage in civility politics and moved on

No. 396294

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>>396078
looks like paul dano

No. 396299

>>396127
I dunno, I just fantasize about fucking leon s kennedy

No. 396302

>>396223
hey don't Insult my baby boy like that
he may not be that smart but he's a nice guy

No. 396306

>>396280
Yeah men are pretty blind like that. It's obvious that women are the more visually oriented sex.

>>396299
Not even the gc threads are safe from husbandoism huh, kek

No. 396308

>>396223
>>396302
who are you talking about ?

No. 396316

A feminist memepage I follow wrote their @ in a pad and took a photo of it and they had to specify it wasnt "terf art" in order not to ~ offend trans people ~

No. 396321

>>396306
Lolcow always makes an exception for Leon

No. 396322

>>396316
Can't wait for society to "progress" until menstrual products in stores are kept behind a counter like cigarettes, and women have to ask for them as having pads in plain sight will be ~literally killing~ troons.

No. 396324

File: 1554725380347.gif (1.84 MB, 326x378, 1549820923381.gif)

>>396306
This >>396321. Also, Leon ages and his appearance changes - there are so many flavours of Leon! A Leon for us all.

Thank god for fictional men free from garbage beliefs.

No. 396326

>>396322
Having a period at all is violently transphobic, anon. How dare you do something that trans women can't do? You must be a TERF. You need to stop having periods by taking the Pill or just being pregnant all the time. Only evil TERFs have periods.

No. 396328

>>396324
hoy shit anon, the gif loaded slow for me so when he suddenly turned to look at me I fucking cackled

>>396322
reminds me of all the controversy over the use of the word 'bleeders' because trans people were getting triggered by sanitary products referring to their customers as women. It honestly makes me think it would be easier to be a faceless company that just doesn't interact with their customers.

No. 396330

>>396326
But anon, taking the pill gives our bodies more estrogen, which is appropriating twans women's struggles with transmisogyny (which is totally more important than boring old real misogyny!)

The only way to not be TERFs is clearly for us to go back to olden times where we stay at home making babies, churning butter from scratch, and isolating ourselves completely from society during our periods.

No. 396331

>>396189
imbed videos in the space below 'choose file'

>>396196
Remember anything else about this doctor? That sounds interesting.

No. 396332

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>>396234
>>396280
>>396306
My father in law apparently didn't clock pic related as a man until dialogue made it abundantly clear the character was trans and my husband admitted that while he suspected it, he wasn't immediately sure.

I think a lot of the time people are just being polite (or scared) when they pretend TIMs pass, but some men are legitimately fucking blind. All they see is lipstick and long hair.

No. 396334

>>396091
Oh my god… Thats gonna be fucking terrible!! He has children and the best wife he could ever have, Lindsay! I don't want his family to get hurt, please don't tell me its true. Lindsay is a smart woman and all, i hope everythings gonna be alright.

No. 396336

>>396331
It was Ray Blanchard (researcher who studied the HSTS/AGP dichotomy) tweeting an article from a troon discussing how anime had a huge influence on his gender identity.
https://medium.com/@socjuswiz/masculinity-anime-and-gender-dysphoria-8d682abcec54
Caused massive butthurt among the anime avatar trannies on twitter from being so blatantly accurate.

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No. 396338

>>396337
in regards to articles posted like

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/calls-to-end-transgender-experiment-on-children-k792rfj7d

"The only NHS gender clinic for children is risking a “live experiment” by sending hundreds for life-changing medical intervention without sufficient evidence of its long-term effects, experts have warned.

The Times has spoken to five clinicians who resigned from the service because of concerns over the treatment of vulnerable children who come to the clinic presenting as transgender.

They believe that some gay children struggling with their sexuality are being wrongly diagnosed as “transgender” by the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) clinic.

All five former staff were responsible for deciding which trans-identifying youngsters should be given hormone blockers to halt their sexual development. The vast majority of those who begin blockers go on to irreversible cross-sex hormones once they reach 16.

The NHS specialists warned that vulnerable children and teenagers had been sent down the path towards transition before experts had time to assess the causes of their gender confusion.

An Oxford professor has also raised concerns about the safety of drug therapies used by the clinic, saying the treatments were “supported by low-quality evidence, or in many cases no evidence at all”.

The number of young people referred to the clinic in north London has soared. In 2010 there were 94 referrals. By last year there were 2,519. The youngest was aged three. The five clinicians are among at least 18 clinical staff who have resigned over the past three years.

In an internal review, seen by The Times, the GIDS admitted it needed to improve its referral system and the way it obtained and recorded informed consent before young people were sent for life-changing medical intervention.

“I felt for the last two years what kept me in the job was the sense there was a huge number of children in danger. I was there to protect children from being damaged,” one clinician said.

“This experimental treatment is being done on not only children, but very vulnerable children,” another said.

All five said they believed that transgender charities such as Mermaids were having a “harmful” effect by allegedly promoting transition as a cure-all solution for confused adolescents. The charities deny the allegation.

The clinicians said they were often under pressure to refer young people for life-altering treatment, even though they did not always believe it was in the individual’s best clinical interests.

The clinic said it used licensed precocious puberty drugs whose long-term effects were known and insisted that its service was safe and that, “in the growing evidence internationally on the outcomes . . . there is little reported evidence of harm”. “We always place a young person’s wellbeing at the centre of our work,” it said.

The specialists expressed concern that many children decided they wanted to change gender after suffering homophobic bullying. Yet these young people were still referred down the route of hormone treatment, they claimed, without clinicians always exploring the possibility they may simply be gay. One clinician said that she feared the use of hormone therapy for such children could result in a scandal.

The GIDS denies the claims, saying it offers a “safe” service that recognises and respects the complexity of its cases.

Under the clinic’s rules, a young person who has already started puberty may be referred for hormone blockers. These are physically reversible, insofar as the body will continue to develop if they are discontinued, but the long-term effect on brain development is unknown. Irreversible cross-sex hormones can be prescribed from 16.

Carl Heneghan, director of the Centre of Evidence-based Medicine at the University of Oxford, said: “Given paucity of evidence, the off-label use of drugs [for outcomes not covered by the medicine’s licence] in gender dysphoria treatment largely means an unregulated live experiment on children.”

The service insisted that its internal review “did not identify any immediate issues in relation to patient safety or failings in the overall approach taken by the service”.

The GIDS said that time and care was taken at every stage to ensure that individuals grasped the potential consequences of their choices. It said that its staff had no preconceptions as to the appropriate treatment and that discussions around sexuality “now form a more explicit part of our approach to assessment and exploration”.

Addressing concerns over the scarcity of evidence, it added: “It is only in recent years that the number of young people attending specialist services worldwide has dramatically increased. Prior to this the numbers have been small and it has therefore been difficult to collect sufficient evidence to fully evaluate treatment pathways. We and other specialist services worldwide are actively engaged in research to better understand the characteristics and needs of young people attending specialist services.”

The Department of Health said that “the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust is subject to inspections, monitoring and regulation”.

No. 396341

Why do NONE of these people talk about how Lupron etc WAS used in decades past on young girls and it fucked up their bones for life???

No. 396343

>>396334
…Anon was joking.

No. 396344

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/23/child-transgender-service-governor-quits-chaos
>Governor of Tavistock Foundation quits over damning report into gender identity clinic

No. 396345

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No. 396349

>>396334
Chill tf out about Gerard. He’s had ample time to go troon and he hasn’t. It would have happened by now if he really wanted it imho. He’s less feminine now than he’s ever been. A total dad

No. 396350

>>388384
that seems familiar isnt that from mencius moldbug

No. 396351

>>396341
No one seems to remember what happened with diethylstilbestrol either. It's like no one cares as long as there's a profit to be made from selling it, regardless of how harmful it is.

No. 396352

>>396341
or how female eastern bloc athletes suffered from many complications in later life due to the testosterone they were taking

No. 396354

>>396350
Yeah, I read his Unqualified Reservations and loved it. There are many concepts, red pills so to speak, that keep popping up in everyday life. Trannies are just one of them but it's scary how accurate some of his observations are.

No. 396355

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Surejan.gif

No. 396358

>>396355
I saw that on the front page of reddit, made my blood boil but of course everyone was eating it up as so cute and wholesome uwu

Am I the only one who thinks this comes off as extremely noble savage-esque? "Look at this ignorant brown girl from a Muslim country with her cute broken English being so accepting, what's YOUR excuse evil whities?"

No. 396359

>>396354
He's certainly got a way of kind of "aligning" into a coherent picture many of the irregular facts that don't really fit into the prevailing jigsaw

No. 396360

>>396355
but their are Transgender people in Egypt

No. 396362

>>396359
Quite, I felt enlightened after reading his books. He managed to put some of my thoughts into words and not only that, he verifies most of it with data and facts.
I know this is kinda off topic, but do you have similar authors to recommend?

No. 396363

>>396362
Maybe
Christopher Lasch's books "The Culture of Narcissism" and "The True and Only Heaven" are kind of in the same vein. He's an erudite contrarian American social critic like moldbug. In the second book he draws from Carlyle who was one of moldbugs biggest influences.

No. 396365

>>396363
Sweet! Thanks, anon.

No. 396376

>>396358
That's the exact same vibe I got, lol

No. 396400

Has anyone done a FOIA request for Lupron/GnRH agonists in general?

No. 396401

>>396400
First result on google seems to point to no?

No. 396407

my uncle was given 7 mg of lupron for terminal prostate cancer. i was given 11 mg for fibroids. we both could only take it one time. I had some kind of stroke about two months after my first dose.
Transgender kids can have 3.5-7.5 mg a month for years?!

No. 396444

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>Makes untrue statement that makes no sense
>"If you argued with me on the basis of biology or reality you proved me right, checkmate terves"

No. 396457

>>396444
the secret to dealing with this level of dumbassery is to just ignore them honestly.

No. 396479

>>396457
True, but those 32k likes are a bit depressing

No. 396495

>>396444
TRA "debate" is based on projecting.
>don't want to believe secular science, choose to believe new meme ideologies over the internet instead
>"Y'all are UNEDUCATED! Educate yourselves!"
>trans people are proven to have multiple mental disorders, including cluster B personality disorders
>"Y'all are mentally ill sociopaths! How dare you disagreeing with a trans person? Don't you know you drive them to suicide?"
>trans people are proven to be violent as fuck
>"Terfs are assaulting poor trans people on the street and killing them!"
>lots of trans people are proven to have autism
>"Terfs are autistic, that's why they can't understand gender!"
>no one wants to fuck trans people
>"Terfs can't get laid lololol"
etc. etc.

No. 396496

>>396457
this, i used to get angry and bitter any time somethis this stupid ended up on my timeline, a couple weeks ago i decided to just block every account with this content and honestly, it's a relief

No. 396539

>>396495
Trans people, especially trans woman are so fixated on wanting to get fucked by cis people, and get mad when you say you’re not interesting. I remember them calling lesbian woman transphobic for not wanting to fuck em when the lot of them still have penises. It’s overall how disgusting they want to force to into wanting them to see them as an option for bed.

No. 396574

>>396444
>verified, peer-reviewed science endorsed by the worlds leading health organizations!!!

Kek, TRA arguments are all the same. They claim everything transgender is founded in pure and unbiased scientific truth, and if you disagree with them you must be uneducated. It’s also ironic that TRAs, who like to participate in the oppression olympics, would use someone’s education level as a means to undermine their opinions.

No. 396626

>>396076

In the case of the first one, he did not provide his legal name, just his drag name.

Drag Storytime originated in San Fiasco because of course it did.

No. 396628

>>396341

An excellent article on Lupron including interviews with several women who have suffered debilitating side effects.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/women-fear-drug-they-used-to-halt-puberty-led-to-health-problems

No. 396666

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Thoughts on The Man who would be queen by J. Michael Bailey
TRA's seem to hate it

No. 396669

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This proud to be single mum is transing one of her twin boys.

>I just hope and pray that all you parents WILL talk about this with your child. Teach them, there are biological differences between men and women, and wanting to wear opposite gendered clothing does not mean you are the opposite sex.


FTFY

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/5-year-old-gender-dysphoria-14212474

A five-year-old who cries every night about her body was left heartbroken when she was told she wouldn't be able to 'grow a baby in her belly.'

Lanu-Skylar, born biologically male, began showing an interest in wearing dresses when she was just two and a half and now her mum is raising her as a girl.

Mum Talitha Kriebel, 29, didn't think much of it when Lanu-Skylar wanted to wear dresses in the garden.

But a year ago she began to show signs of gender dysphoria - a condition where a person experiences discomfort or stress due to a mismatch between their biological sex and gender identity.

No. 396673

>>396669
Jesus Christ
why do these Idiots do this
I don't like Troons who Invaded women spaces but this are children being forced on hormones and the TRA Ideology

No. 396674

>>396666

His most recent tweet is an article about Tavistock.

https://www.twitter.com/profjmb

From Wikipedia:

Bailey's book The Man Who Would Be Queen: The Science of Gender Bending and Transsexualism was published in 2003. In it, Bailey reviewed evidence that male homosexuality is innate, a result of heredity and prenatal environment. He also reviewed the theory of Ray Blanchard that there are two unrelated forms of transsexualism, one that is an extreme type of homosexuality and one that is an expression of a paraphilia known as autogynephilia. Written in a popular science style, the book summarized research supporting Bailey's opinions.

The book generated considerable controversy. The most detailed investigation into that controversy was reported by Alice Dreger, a bioethicist and historian, known for her activism in support of intersex rights. Dreger included additional details in Galileo’s Middle Finger, an analysis of modern clashes between scientists and activists whose beliefs are challenged by them. In her documented account of the Bailey case, she concluded that a small group of self-styled activists tried to bury a politically challenging scientific theory by attacking Bailey. "These critics, rather than restrict themselves to the argument over the ideas, had charged Bailey with a whole host of serious crimes," but that "what they claimed about Bailey simply wasn't true."

No. 396688

>>396669
God imagine coming home from school crying because the other kids bullied you and you just want your mom to comfort you. Then you go to hug her and she grabs out her iPhone, pushes her face close to yours, and does a duck lip-frowny face pose, when a huge flash goes off in your face while your crying. Your disoriented from the camera flash, still crying, and your mom just turns around ignoring you so she can quickly upload it with an embarrassing t.m.i. caption about the bullying, that you didn’t even get the chance to tell your mom about, where she makes up a bunch of bullshit for millions of people to see. She just sits there smiling and getting excited from all the “likes” rolling in and you’re still there crying and now your moms just used you for views and ditched you, making you even more upset.

Poor kid shite

No. 396692


No. 396693

>>396692
I'm so glad people are focusing on the real issue here, misgendering.

No. 396695

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>>396669

Yet she also posted this. How has her brain not ruptured from the cognitive dissonance?

No. 396706

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Lily Maynard is rebuilding her site after it was suspended by Wordpress last month.

http://lilymaynard.com
https://mobile.twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard

No. 396709

>>396692
>all the comments saying this is fake because you flush tampons

Who the hell flushes tampons down the toilet? I've literally always heard that you throw them in the trash. That's what I do.

No. 396712

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/it-feels-like-conversion-therapy-for-gay-children-say-clinicians-pvsckdvq2

Text of the article copied from https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/bapamg/the_times_it_feels_like_conversion_therapy_for/

It feels like conversion therapy for gay children, say clinicians

Ex-NHS staff fear that homophobia is driving a surge in ‘transgender’ young people

Lucy Bannerman

April 8 2019, 12:01am, The Times

Inside the clinic rooms of the Tavistock, the private heartache of a new generation of “transgender” youngsters is being laid bare. There used to be about 50 referrals a year, mainly males with a history of gender issues.

Now there are thousands of young females reporting a sudden gender crisis for the first time. Many are convinced that transition — and the powerful drugs that make it happen — will be the solution to their problems.

Until now the specialists struggling to keep up with caseloads have stayed silent, but alarm over the number of adolescents being prescribed body-altering drugs, has prompted five former clinicians to speak out for the first time.

All five have resigned from the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) in the past three years as a matter of conscience.

“This experimental treatment is being done not only on children, but very vulnerable children, who have experienced mental health difficulties, abuse, family trauma, but sometimes those [other factors] just get whitewashed,” one female clinician said. “If someone was suggesting plastic surgery or any other permanent change we’d be saying, hang on a minute.”

The clinicians have warned that complex histories and adolescent confusion over possible homosexuality are being ignored in the rush to accept and celebrate every young person’s new transgender identity.

Clinical psychologists carry out each initial assessment at the Tavistock. They are the gatekeepers who decide whether to refer transgender youngsters to the endocrine clinic for the next stage of treatment. Therapists once had months to work through underlying issues before making decisions on medical intervention, but the clinicians claim that young people are now routinely referred for hormone therapy after as few as three hour-long sessions.

They believe that physically healthy children are being medicated in response to pressure from transgender lobby groups and parental anxieties.

So many potentially gay children were being sent down the pathway to change gender, two of the clinicians said there was a dark joke among staff that “there would be no gay people left”.

“It feels like conversion therapy for gay children,” one male clinician said. “I frequently had cases where people started identifying as trans after months of horrendous bullying for being gay,” he told The Times.

“Young lesbians considered at the bottom of the heap suddenly found they were really popular when they said they were trans.”

Another female clinician said: “We heard a lot of homophobia which we felt nobody was challenging. A lot of the girls would come in and say, ‘I’m not a lesbian. I fell in love with my best girl friend but then I went online and realised I’m not a lesbian, I’m a boy. Phew.’”

The specialists expressed concern at how little confusion over sexuality was explored when a young person requested treatment to change their body.

“I would ask who they wanted to have relationships with, but I was told by senior management that gender is completely separate to sex,” a third female clinician said. “I couldn’t get on board with that, because it isn’t. Some people were transitioning their gender to match their sexuality.”

The service said it was “a welcoming place for people from all sections of the LGBT community”, adding that it had made exploration of sexuality a “more explicit” part of the assessment in response to staff concerns.

Nevertheless, the clinician said that her unease grew after meeting an adult woman whose transition to become a man involved having a double mastectomy. She had since changed her mind.

“What can we do? We can’t reverse that. Do we suggest fake breasts?” she said. “We have such a duty of care to these confused young adolescents, but I think we are failing them.”

The clinic rejected the claims. “We always place a young person’s wellbeing at the centre of our work,” it said. “GIDS staff are engaged daily in thinking about the serious ethical dimensions of our practice. The diversity and complexity of individual cases will always be respected.”

Several clinicians suspected that some of the “transgender” adolescents were reacting to homophobia at home.

“For some families, it was easier to say, this is a medical problem, ‘here’s my child, please fix them!’ than dealing with a young, gay kid,” the third female clinician said. At the service’s “family days”, a parent was allegedly heard saying that they did not want their child to have gay friends because they “didn’t want them mixed up in that hedonistic lifestyle”. “It is converting people into heterosexuals,” one of the clinicians said. “We had so many families who would talk about not wanting their daughters to be lesbian.” Young people “repeatedly” confided their own “disgust” that they may be gay, according to the clinician.

In other cases, she felt young people had concluded they were trans because they didn’t fit traditional gender roles.

“Children’s bodies are being damaged in order to treat societal issues,” she warned. She recalled a case of a 13-year-old child “whose parents were really pressurising us for puberty blockers”. When the clinician refused to refer him, she claims one of the parents, a lawyer, wrote threatening legal letters to the service. The child was eventually referred for blockers.

She would have nightmares about her years at the Tavistock. “I would talk about it as an ‘atrocity’. I know that sounds quite strong, but it felt as if we were part of something that people would look back on in the future, and ask, what were we thinking? In the future I think there will be lots and lots of de-transitioners who feel their bodies were mutilated as young people and who will ask, why did you let me do this? It is very disturbing.”

Studies show that the vast majority of youngsters who begin puberty blockers go on to have irreversible hormone treatment at 16. Some go on to have gender reassignment surgery as adults.

All five clinicians expressed concern over how little young people and their families were being told about the impact of hormone treatment on fertility and sexual function as adults. One claimed young people were unable to give “informed consent” because it was regarded as taboo to discuss the impact of medical intervention on later sexual function in such a young cohort.

The clinic said there were no “taboo” subjects in its work, and that it did not “recognise this allegation as reflecting what happens in the service”. It rejected allegations of conversion therapy and insisted that youngsters were being properly advised on the risks of and about what is unknown about medical intervention. Time and care was taken at every stage to ensure that individuals grasped the potential consequences of their choices, it said, adding that the service had become “increasingly aware” of the need to discuss the impact of treatment on future sexual function.

The GIDS’s own internal review identified procedures around consent as an area of concern. It has recommended that written consent should be obtained before referral for blockers.

Another clinician described how youngsters entered his room enthusing about Alex Bertie, a transgender YouTuber, and My Life: I Am Leo, a documentary about a transgender teen broadcast in a teatime slot on CBBC.

“These are very simplified stories about how easy it would be to transition into being trans. . . that transition is a solution to feeling shit. That is very appealing to lots of teenagers,” the first male clinician said. I felt for the last two years what kept me in the job was the sense there was a huge number of children in danger and I was there to protect them from the service, from the inside.”

One female clinician estimates that she referred about 50 young people for puberty blockers. She now believes she referred too many. Their outcomes remain unclear. “When you start them on puberty blockers, you’re putting them on a pathway that could lead to sexual dysfunction problems and, for the younger kids, will definitely make them infertile. In what other specialism would physical intervention that leads to permanent change to the body be the first line of treatment for a vulnerable child? Activists will tell you it’s unethical not to intervene. But we know that not everyone with gender dysphoria will go on to identify as trans for the rest of their lives.”

One case has haunted her. “All the pushing was coming from the father to put the kid on puberty blockers. Thinking back on it now, I fear that the father was a paedophile and the child was being abused.” There is no suggestion the service knowingly ignored the case, and the outcome is unknown.

The clinic, which is run by the Tavistock and Portman Foundation Trust and whose director is Polly Carmichael, says it is tracking the progress of 44 young people who began puberty blockers in 2011, and that all available evidence is discussed with families. “This is a rapidly developing field and psychosocial and medical professionals are working hard to ensure that we respond to emerging evidence in an appropriate and considered way,” a spokesman said. The growing body of international evidence showed that “thus far, there is little reported evidence of harm,” he added.

“The service undertakes careful assessments over time and continues to see young people whether or not they attend the endocrine clinic following this assessment,” the spokesman said.

The clinic said it was aware of concerns and tensions between different perspectives raised by staff and “clinicians have a duty of care to raise safeguarding concerns”, adding that there were “safe spaces” and structures in place for staff to discuss anything that worried them. It would not comment on specific cases but stressed that a young person’s motivations and choices were discussed at each step.

What began in 1989 as a specialist clinic for gender issues is now under intense scrutiny. A report by David Bell, a former governor at the trust, revealed ethical concerns over “woefully inadequate care”. Staff were furious with the GIDS executive’s response to the report, which stated that its own review found no safeguarding concerns.

The whole service should have been halted when the number of “transgender” cases first exploded, one of the clinicians said. “That’s the point we should have stopped because we didn’t know what we were doing. Are we a service for kids with gender dysphoria, a medical disorder? Or are we a service for ‘transgender kids’?”

A GIDS spokesman said: “We are aware of tensions between different perspectives. These differences are inevitable in such complex work.”

One clinician said it was understandable if her former employer was defensive, saying: “If they are getting it wrong, you have to ask, are they making kids infertile by mistake? Because if they are to truly acknowledge [our concerns], then they will have to ask themselves, what the f* have we done to thousands of children?”

Gires, GI and Mermaids all denied they viewed transition as a cure-all or that they exerted any undue pressure. Susie Green of Mermaids said the charity “does not encourage parents to demand any particular treatment.” Gendered Intelligence said the allegations against it were “unfounded”. Bernard Reed, founder of Gires, said: “In medical literature . . . failure to provide timely treatment is described as ‘psychological torture’. As far as we are aware, GIDS has adequate safeguards against irreversible treatments being given inappropriately.”

No. 396714

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/families-exploited-by-gender-lobby-groups-pushing-for-treatment-5fddvml8r

Text of the article copied from https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/baqmgt/more_from_the_times_this_one_targeting_mermaids/

Families ‘exploited by gender lobby groups pushing for treatment’

Lucy Bannerman

April 8 2019, 12:01am, The Times

Transgender lobby groups are encouraging vulnerable young people and their families to push for medical intervention regardless of whether specialists agree it is the best course of action, according to clinicians who have resigned in protest from the NHS’s leading gender identity clinic.

Mermaids, the most prominent transgender pressure group, insists it does not “favour”, “lobby” or “push” for young people who identify as transgender to pursue medical intervention.

Two other organisations, Gendered Intelligence, and the Gender Identity Research and Education Society (Gires) say they do not automatically support physical intervention.

However, frontline clinicians who assessed the thousands of young people coming to the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) for help, said they felt families were “systematically” demanding to be referred for life-changing hormone treatment on the advice of campaigners.

“Mermaids are always saying this is a matter of life and death. ‘Would you rather an alive boy or a dead girl?’ That Mermaids narrative is everywhere [within the service],” one former clinician claimed. “Mermaids sell themselves as a support group,” said another. “They are not. They are lobbyists. During sessions they would sit in the waiting room outside.” She accused Mermaids of exploiting parental anxiety to promote their own agenda — claims denied by Mermaids.

The GIDS’s own internal review acknowledged the rise in the number of families “presenting with their minds apparently made up”.

The same clinician said: “The reality is that if you say the right trigger words, get Mermaids on your side, by 11 you’ll be on hormone blockers and by 16 you’ll be on hormones. That’s not ethical.”

The GIDS said it was independent and committed to providing an environment where staff were protected from pressures. Mermaids insisted that it “does not tell people what to say or do” and “provides information and resources only”. In its successful submission for a £500,000 grant Mermaids told the National Lottery that its focus was “not medical treatment”.

This claim was dismissed by a third former clinician. “Mermaids, Gires, Gendered Intelligence. . . they all act as if it were their service,” the clinician said. “They are able to call up executive members and influence them.” Another clinician said the GIDS received complaints that “you could tell were written by Mermaids because they are all the same”.

Mermaids admits that it supports families through the complaints process. Susie Green, the chief executive, said: “A system where complaints are denied or ignored would be highly unethical and goes against basic NHS principles. If Mermaids did not communicate with the clinic then it would face legitimate criticism.” She said the charity “does not encourage parents to demand any particular treatment”.

Jay Stewart, chief executive of Gendered Intelligence said the allegations were “unfounded”. “We recognise that medical intervention is not right for all young people,” he said. Bernard Reed, founder of Gires, said: “In medical literature. . . failure to provide timely treatment is described as ‘psychological torture’. As far as we are aware, GIDS has adequate safeguards against irreversible treatments being given inappropriately.”

The GIDS said: “The trust engages with a number of support groups, with a wide range of different positions. These groups include Mermaids and Gendered Intelligence but also those with quite opposite views. The trust always seeks to be independent and focus on the needs of individual children.”

No. 396716

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/doubts-over-evidence-for-using-drugs-on-the-young-2vk26hrvx

April 8 2019, 12:01am, The Times

Doubts over evidence for using drugs on the young

Professor Carl Heneghan

You would think, when it comes to children, the testing and evaluation of medicines would be robust — ensuring the utmost safety. Well, you’d be wrong. The mess we have gotten ourselves into with the treatment of gender dysphoria in children and adolescents highlights all that is concerning with the present use and evaluation of powerful medicines in this age group.

Most evidence for drug use is based on information in adults; evidence in children is scarce, and the majority of drugs in use are frequently supported by low-quality evidence about their use beyond the usual age for puberty, or in many cases no evidence at all.

Drugs in children, therefore, often require off-label use, meaning their use is outside of what the drug was approved for and detailed in the Summary of Product Characteristics, including using a drug to avoid, not just delay, puberty and following it with cross-sex hormone treatment.

As an example, in transgender females, oestrogen therapy alone is often insufficient to produce the desired feminising effects. Spironolactone, commonly used in the treatment of heart failure, is used off label owing to its oestrogenic effects. It blocks testosterone, and the oestrogen-like effects cause menstrual disturbances, breast enlargement and breast tenderness in females, and gynaecomastia (swelling of the breast tissue in boys or men) and impotence in males, often leading to its discontinuation.

The GIDS does not use spironolactone, but it has been used to treat adolescents with gender dysphoria in the US. All clinics use different drugs and different doses and that in itself is concerning.

Children are not small adults; their changing body composition requires careful dosing; their physiology creates unique challenges that increase risks, and off-label use may lead to serious and life-threatening consequences. In my view, given the paucity of evidence, the off-label use of drugs that occurs in gender dysphoria largely means an unregulated live experiment on children.

Treatments for gender dysphoria in children and adolescents include suppressing puberty and the use of gender-affirming hormones before decisions about gender-affirming surgery. The collection and evaluation of evidence, particularly when it comes to ensuring their safety, should therefore be a priority. It is not.

The available evidence comes from small studies, is retrospective rather than prospective, and has lost considerable numbers of children in the follow-up. Studies also lack control groups (making it difficult to tell anything about the intended effects), there are no randomised trials and the presence of subjective outcomes along with the lack of blinding mean all together the current evidence does not support informed decision-making. The dearth of evidence in gender dysphoria doesn’t surprise me. What does surprise me is that we have devolved responsibility for making life-changing decisions to one clinic, to a few doctors, with no national guidelines in place. And that we have accepted that individuals facing distressing life-changing situations are ill informed.

The Department of Health told the BBC’s Panorama programme that it was “committed to ensuring thorough accountability and oversight. . . and will review any arrangements when appropriate”. Its response is pitiful — “review any arrangements when appropriate”, what does that mean?

The BBC investigation I participated in highlights the considerable uncertainties that require addressing to inform safe care for gender dysphoria. If in doubt, ask for the evidence.
Carl Heneghan is a professor of evidence-based medicine at the University of Oxford

GIDS response
GIDS has explained it uses licensed precocious puberty drugs whose long-term effects are known. It said “There is growing evidence internationally on the outcomes of pubertal suppression and sex hormones in adolescents with gender dysphoria. Thus far there is little reported evidence of harm” It added that it “responds to emerging evidence in an appropriate and considered way.” and is carrying out its own research and uses “the preliminary data from this work to inform clinical care”. It added that the service is safe and an independent review “did not identify any immediate issues in relation to patient safety or failings in the overall approach taken by the service.

No. 396717

>>396709
I was going to say this also. I don't know anyone who flushes tampons, and have always been told to NOT flush them since it's risking toilet clogging.
I'm convinced those comments must be from men. At least I sincerely hope so.
Also if this was true, why would women's restrooms need sanitary bins at all?

I'd consider it being a troll but the persistence and insistence that it's "proof" of the story being fake leads me to believe it isn't.

Anyway that thread was a depressing ride. reddit must attract a lot of trannies and handmaidens.

No. 396724

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/baps75/times_investigation_calls_to_end_transgender/

The replies to this about how clearly this is just hate against trans people is worrying

No. 396726

>>396724

The text of this article was posted in >>396338

Replies where?

No. 396733

>>396712
>The whole service should have been halted when the number of “transgender” cases first exploded, one of the clinicians said. “That’s the point we should have stopped because we didn’t know what we were doing.

So fucking vile that they didn’t. I hope people start paying attention to articles like this and taking this shit seriously.

No. 396737

>>396709
>>396717
I swear someone replied to this with a JY reference but now that post is gone. Did the poster delete it herself or are we not allowed to mention JY here?

No. 396743

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>>396737

I deleted it because I was going to add to it, forgot to save the image, and the joke wasn't worth finding/editing the image again.

But speaking of Jonathan Jessica Yaniv, he just filed two new suits on April 4th. This time with the BC Supreme Court, not a Human Rights Tribunal.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jonathan-yaniv-jessica-yaniv-trustednerd-trustednerd-com-jy-knows-it-jy-british-columbia.49790/page-169#post-4547762

No. 396744

>>396743
Oh good, I guess I'm a little paranoid regarding censorship when it comes to this particular creep.

Is he going by "X" now?

No. 396750

>>396743
How does he even have the money for all those lolsuits?

No. 396774

>>396712
>One case has haunted her. “All the pushing was coming from the father to put the kid on puberty blockers. Thinking back on it now, I fear that the father was a paedophile and the child was being abused.” There is no suggestion the service knowingly ignored the case, and the outcome is unknown.
Reading that made my skin crawl. That father is absolutely disgusting and I'm sure he's not the only father of a trans "son" with the same motive. I hope that poor child is okay. Fucking sickening.

No. 396823

Anybody have a sibling or other family member who doesn't agree with gender critical thoughts? I brought up my gender critical views to my sister and she kept shooting them down by just saying "not all trans people are like that" and "stop being so negative!" I obviously decided not to talk to her anymore about it but her denial and insistence on living in ignorance kind of infuriate me. Then again, she almost believed that vaccines cause autism..

No. 396824

>>396823

Have you made it personal to her, ie. explained how the expansion of trans "rights" encroaches on spaces she inhabits? For example, if she is into sports, how would she feel competing against a TiM? If she has children, how would she feel if they were taught in school that they are the opposite sex because of the toys they play with?

No. 396826

>>396824
Actually I did bring up those points because she is about to have a child and is into fitness. I brought up that it's inherently unfair for trans athletes to be competing with female athletes and the instances of children basically being groomed into being trans. She actually just… ignored those points and just kept trying to shoot them down and get me to shut up as quickly as possible.

No. 396847

>>396826

She's probably never really thought about it. Many people do not want to be seen as a bigot, unwittingly sacrificing their own rights in the process. Is she / does she consider herself to be a feminist?

Because T has always been included with LGB, many people who are supportive of gay rights accept the TRA rhetoric without question.

No. 396863

>>396847
I think she was definitely shocked by it because like you said, she’s probably not thought about much about before. I wasn’t even being loud about it or anything and I just felt that anyone who has a young child or is about to have one should be concerned about all the genderfuckery going on. Anyways, it’s basically a lost cause for her because she’s always had that mindset to dismiss anything remotely “negative.” I’m sure she considers herself feminist but it’s probably a shallow form of libfeminism since I don’t see her as the type to think about stuff like this either. She’s easily swayed by emotional rhetoric which also makes it more difficult to convince her of any gender critical views.

No. 396878

Experiment on kids’: Cross-sex hormone therapy age down to 8 in US govt-funded study, doctor finds

Cross-sex hormones may now be given to US children as young as eight in a government-supported research program, despite the risks these drugs can pose, a doctor skeptical of transitioning gender-dysphoric kids has discovered.

“Imagine giving eight-year-old girls testosterone,” Dr. Michael Laidlaw told a Heritage Foundation panel. “They are in third or fourth grade. This is unbelievable. But this is going on.” Laidlaw, an endocrinologist, discovered via a Freedom of Information Act request that the minimum age for administration of cross-sex hormones had been lowered from 13 to 8 in a large five-year study being conducted at the Children’s Hospital Los Angeles.

This whole thing is an experiment on children.

Laidlaw blamed the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for “allowing unethical research to be conducted on children and adolescents,” as Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy, who runs the Los Angeles study, received a $5.7 million grant from the NIH.

(continue reading)

https://www.rt.com/usa/455696-kids-given-hormones-transgender-panel/

No. 396879

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TW: plebbit

https://np.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/bb05wn/aita_for_asking_my_roommate_to_stay_with_her/

a bunch of the replies saying that op is a clearly a troll with an "anti-trans" agenda, as if troons don't say this shit frequently

No. 396880

>>396692
>man violates a woman's privacy to an extreme extent by using biohazards to make fucking food
>b-but he wants to be called a woman!

No. 396884

>>396879
That’s what pisses me off the most. They believe trans people can’t be like this, so it must obviously be fake. God damn propaganda.

No. 396885

>>396823
My sister is like that too, but she's only 18 and going with the tide just like I was at her age. She'll have her own experiences and grow her own opinion, one day.

No. 396886

>>396879
They called reddit transphobic as if it isn't fucking full of troons.

No. 396887

>>396692
Even if this WAS a fake post the people only bitching about m-muh misgendering are being ridiculous. The "you don't have to tell HER to get help, she isn't insane!!" one made me want to die, you mean drinking tampon tea to become a woman isn't fucking bonkers?

>>396879
Hooooly shit the amount of NPD at work here is fucking unfathomable. I'd say this is a troll post if I didn't know these fucks actually pull stunts like this.

No. 396888

>>396879
This is definitely real. You can tell by the selfish, whiny tone and clear narcissism. No one but someone who's a troon or deep, deep in their circles can duplicate such a thing so effortlessly. From personal experience, this is exactly how they behave when they're in one of their moods.
I even checked the OP's post history, and from the way they behave after the fact, there's no way this isn't a troon.

No. 396891

>>396887
>>396886
>>396884
Speaking of which: any suggestions on how to handle "they're just the loudest ones - they're not representative of their population! the loudest, most obnoxious ones will always be the most visible!!!" people?

For like a year now I've been feeding my bf news and vids and examples of narcissism but he still refuses to accept that it isn't just a few bad apples that end up getting more media coverage or something because they're so notably bad

No. 396898

>>396891
The only way to get past that is to see those people in real life, honestly. It's very difficult to convince someone of the craziness of TRAs in general using social media.

No. 396908

Time to play troll or fakeboi, girls.

https://www.deviantart.com/sunflowerboi

No. 396911

>>396878
Non-sensationalist source:
http://grantome.com/grant/NIH/R01-HD082554-01A1
>The study will include two groups of gender dysphoric youth: one in the earliest stages of pubertal development to assess the impact of puberty suppression, and one in later stages of pubertal development to assess the impact of cross-sex hormones for gender transition.
>Specifically, in the earlier pubertal cohort (Tanner stages 2-3; n=80) the study will evaluate the impact on mental health, psychological well-being, physiologic parameters and bone health as well as document safety of GnRH agonists administered for puberty suppression.
>In the later pubertal cohort (Tanner stages 4-5; n=200) the study will evaluate the impact on mental health, psychological well-being, and metabolic/physiologic parameters, as well as document the safety of cross-sex hormones administered for gender transition.
The study doesn't aim to lower age of cross-sex hormones to 8, but to only administer GnRH agonists (to delay puberty) to Tanner stages 2-3 (usually age 9+) patients. Administration of cross-sex hormones is intended only for Tanner 4-5 patients (usually age 12+).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner_scale
GnRH agonists are not cross-sex hormones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonadotropin-releasing_hormone_agonist

Associated publications:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5604229/
>Fertility Preservation for Transgender Adolescents
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5549539/
>Multidisciplinary Care for Gender-Diverse Youth: A Narrative Review and Unique Model of Gender-Affirming Care
>parental participation is required for youth under the age of 18
>For youth and families interested in initiating GnRHa or gender-affirming hormones, the initial visit includes a discussion of GDC protocol and, when indicated, our clinical practice of considering gender-affirming hormones for youth who are cognitively and emotionally prepared around the age of 14. This practice varies from the Endocrine Society recommendation to wait until around age 16 for hormone treatment.

Request for records, still in progress:
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/california-52/the-impact-of-early-medical-treatment-in-transgender-youth-nih-70203/

No. 396916

>>396911

Thanks, anon! I couldn't find an alternate journalistic source and debated posting it at all, but Michael Laidlaw himself seems to check out.

I came across the article when I fell down the Tavistock rabbit hole.

No. 396929


No. 422190

>>388189
I went to a clothing optional gender mixed spa in the Netherlands some years ago. We fucked in the pool and caught another couple doing the same.

No. 422195




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