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No. 1413384[Reply]

A thread to discuss the online hilarity of a subgroup of racial identitarians known as the goldensphere.

What would happen if white nationalists and hoteps had an interracial gang bang? The result would definitely be this group of cows.

This thread is specifically about light skinned or mixed-race African Americans who genuinely believe that they are superior to other African Americans (even blasians) based on their "golden skin" and that they need to secure a nation for "golden people" and "golden children".

Important Note: no racebaiting, no posting normal mixed/lightskin people, and no regurgitative comments about black culture, race-mixing.
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No. 2048111

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>>1794196
Here he is threatening more women online

No. 2050986

>>1980526
You are CreoleChief100, lmao(sage your shit / doxxing (dox has been deleted))

No. 2058513

This guy not only going after Don Armando he join forces with grand ultime merchant,lashid & blewish jewlatto to shut down content creators in YouTube and has said he's trying to get content creators in prison or deleted.(newfag)

No. 2059684

>>2018936
This man is being monitored by fbi because he is a nazi connected to David Chao
https://youtube.com/@JorJorCrelatto(learn2embed)

No. 2059685

>>2058513
Weren't you trying to seduce a young mentally impaired girl, "sithgang?"

You are a grown ass man.(sage your shit)



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No. 2026090[Reply]

From wikipedia:
>Polyamory is the practice of, or desire for, romantic relationships with more than one partner at the same time, with the informed consent of all partners involved. People who identify as polyamorous may believe in open relationships with a conscious management of jealousy and reject the view that sexual and relational exclusivity are prerequisite for deep, committed, long-term, loving relationships.
It's basically cheating plus self-righteousness.
So how does that work out?
At best, the relationship is never as strong as it used to be. Not everyone is so lucky.
https://archive.ph/DkN3s
>Man Who Featured in 5 Person Polyamorous Relationship Charged With Child Abuse
>Infant suffered broken leg, arm and skull fractures during vicious attack
Mostly, they make a lot of noise online and irl.
Why is it lolcow-worthy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTsdKycVZZ4
They see it as part LGB-related sexuality, part MLM recruitment scheme. They are extremely proud of their poor decisions and want attention for it.
Bonus lols: any selfie posted on r/polyamory
Points of Interest:
Heavily popular in the trans community with many crossovers.
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No. 2059653

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>>2059651
Dropped screenshot

No. 2059654

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>>2059653
Damn, Molly Ringwald fell off

No. 2059657

>>2059653
Which group is this?

No. 2059659

>>2059565
I'm still following her. I don't see anything milk worthy. I wonder how she knows who to block because she has so many followers.

No. 2059674

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Old and not milk but there's no way they actually hide the worse parts of their lifestyle from her daughter like Dana says they do. Their home and even clothing are littered with dated references to "sex work" and fucking.



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No. 2056155[Reply]

>Admin note: Please remember this thread is not to discuss general grievances and phenomena of the trans "community". Only post here if you're talking about specific trans cows and are able to provide screenshots of their behavior. Generalized vents don't belong here, nor do your personal experiences. Use the appropriate threads on our off-topic boards for this.
/ot/ gender ideology general thread: >>>/ot/2121106

News sites/Studies:
https://reduxx.info/
https://janeclarejones.com/
https://transcrimeuk.com/
https://ovarit.com/
https://terfisaslur.com/
https://www.theredtentcollective.org/transgender-crime-map
https://www.the11thhourblog.com/
https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/ (TiM violent crime stats)
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No. 2059648

>>2059643
>>2059642
These scrotes would get on their knees for a whiff of pussy mind you, their contempt is just lack of access kek.

No. 2059669

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>>2059642
>mog
lmao

No. 2059671

>>2059185
>the "square jaw" line isn't even in contact with her jaw
>her hair and eyebrows are perfectly normal
I also feel like her cheekbones are fine too idk bitches hate buccal fat for no reason these days
seems like projection especially with those big ass bangs, but alright

No. 2059679

>>2059669
Nonnie your pic is fucking killing me KEKKKKKKKK

No. 2059688

>>2059541
LOL I swear this is their fucking uniform. its so funny because i almost never see other women wear skirts irl



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No. 2058104[Reply]

>Admin note: Please remember this thread is not to discuss general grievances and phenomena of the trans "community". Only post here if you're talking about specific trans cows and are able to provide screenshots of their behavior. Generalized vents don't belong here, nor do your personal experiences. Use the appropriate threads on our off-topic boards for this

This is a series of threads about fakebois and trans-identified females (TIFs).

TIFs are girls and women who take on the 'trans' label to any extent, including undergoing ("gender-affirming") surgery under that label.

"Fakebois" are girls who pretend to be boys, either by becoming TIFs or larping biological males through the screen (classic move). Fakebois usually style and present themselves as androgynous or feminine-looking boys, or wearing girls' clothing and make-up while insisting on being addressed with he/him (or occasionally they/them) pronouns and take great offense at being gendered as female.

These threads are also now a catch-all for any minor TIF cows without threads of their own. Even "serious" troons, (like Kalvin Garrah and Ellen Page) are fair game, as are horrific troon surgeries and pregnancies. Just remember to spoiler that shit.

**TIFs, no one cares if you think you're ~more legit~ than the cows posted here.**

Additionally, occasional discussion of fujoshis is fine, but don't sperg and infight about it. Report and ignore bait.

Notable FtM-related subreddits:
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No. 2059677

>>2059675
It costs more to keep the nipples and they have a high rate of falling off or losing sensation so some just take them off.

No. 2059678

>>2059675
Keeping the nipples almost always involves completely removing them and grafting them back on the chest in a different place. In America at least, it's cheaper to just get rid of the nipples completely.
I've also seen some extremely online nonbinary women like gray folie who think that having no nipples makes them somehow more nonbinary, because both sexes are expected to have nipples …I guess??

No. 2059681

>>2059677
>>2059678
Wow, I had no ideia about the extra cost to keep your nipples. Very weird. Kind of makes me hate the doctors who do this type of unneeded surgery on mentally ill women even more. Thank you nonnies

No. 2059683

>>2059575
Are you gay? Most straight women know it feels anywhere from bad to mid. So what does that "butch lesbian" see in dick that straight women don't kek?

No. 2059687

>>2059670
Yeah, scars can heal pretty well if you got a surgeon who knows what they're doing, are at a good BMI, and if you research and follow guides on how to minimize scarring. Unfortunately many doctors do trans surgeries for the guaranteed Medicaid insurance money or are using ghost surgeons, and a lot of tifs are overweight and too depressed/autistic/in love with their twitter validation transboy art with huuuge stylized chest scars, to bother with scar tissue management. Some of them don't even know you have to do specific things so the scars don't end up being potentially painful and intrusive.



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No. 2050490[Reply]

A thread dedicated to the worst subsection of the Commentary Community. This community is characterized by contantly infighting, regurgitating the same points that another person had said with little to no new input, cannibalizing one another when they feel like their own reputation is at stake, and moral grandstanding.

Notable Figures:

>HopelessPeaches: A fat, mentally stunted, british woman. Was in a borderline DDLG relationship with LioConvoy before she threw him under the bus. Currently MIA after running from her involvement in the Rosa call as well as the FCK.

>LioConvoy: A fat and smelly, Chris Hansen wannabe, scrote who collects mentally damaged women as "daughters" like the Thundercats figurines he has. Was Peaches biggest meatrider before she turned on him. Had a Discord server called "The Senate" where he would drag people in to verbally berate them, until it imploded.
>Omnia: Kai's Ex. Has an actual life outside the internet, but can't help but run back to it. Made claims against Kai being abusive and took his cat, along with collecting money for items that probably weren't stolen. Not as active in making videos and mainly posts on Twitter.
>Kai/Zae: Volitile manchild that goes off on tirades at any perceived slights, but has recently stepped back from the ACC. Admitts to beating Omnia and tries to say it was mutual.
>JustARobot: Autistic grifter sexpest. Has said multiple times that he's stepping back from the ACC, only to come crawling back because none of his other videos get nearly as much traction.


Others in the community include: PonderSprocket (well respected, but also has a weird dynamic with her teenage fanbase), HitenMitsuru (pretentious vtuber wannabe, loud and uses big words to sound smart, but cracks when the slightest bit of energy is returned back to her.), NezzieMonster (suicide baits and just like Hiten, can dish it out but can't take it.)



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No. 2058956

>>2056586
late but i think a big reason people here are so drawn to defend synni is that she's clearly extremely mentally handicapped and grew up in a community that would lynch each other over the smallest of things, which probably didn't give her brain much room for growth, on top of the fact that she didn't show any interest in actually dating minors, she just seemed to want to connect to someone else as fucked up as her and probably didn't fully grasp just HOW young the person behind the screen was due to them being digital. now that more stuff has come out about synni i'm finding it harder and harder to defend her and i just don't want to anymore but for a lot of people, especially on this website of all places, i imagine it's difficult to want to eternally damn a woman so clearly in need of mental help.

No. 2058988

>>2058956
I don't think it's that people are "defending" Synni here exactly but people are holding Birdie to the same standards. Birdie is a jobless retard who directly encourages her underage fanbase to draw fanart or interact with her nsfw shit and it's all public, and she has the audacity to do that consent retraction bs to paint Synni as a rapist, and is a jobless lazy retard on top of it all. If Synni was even half of a bum as Birdie or was as shitty as Birdie…(sage your shit)

No. 2059071

>>2058745
This is still probably cathartic for him lol(sage your shit)

No. 2059583

>>2056586
>I want to uncancel John Bob so much
Why?(sage your shit)

No. 2059655

newfags for the love of god sage your shit



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No. 2026456[Reply]

Ethereal electronic-alternative hipster musician turned washed-up imperialist-friendly space bimbo devoted to whiteknighting Elon Musk and performing shitty DJ sets. Billionaire exploiting his workers whilst neurotically dog whistling on Twitter and abusing various drugs.

Recently:

>Grimes hypocritically decries AI music creation program Suno, calling it “sad and dark” whilst utilising Stable Diffusion and Midjourney for concert visuals >>1980256 , >>1980298 , >>1980981

>Grimes quotes Bladerunner whilst using the power of pure uninhibited mustiness to make Vivienne Westwood look cheap >>1980614
>Claire’s new boyfriend Anyma with one of many Grimes shirts with clearly A.I. generated graphics >>1980983
>Grimes threatening new music, Fortnite collaboration >>1984338
>Grimes hosts a Coachella dumpster fire with several technical difficulties on account of her inability to DJ, count, perform, or do any sort of damage control/problem solving. Complete with the premiere of a few new songs: the most shitty and lacklustre EDM “music” in the history of sound. >>1985329 , >>1985335 , >>1985337 , >>1985341 , >>1985343 , >>1985344 ,
>Plus, the live chat from Youtube: Post too long. Click here to view the full text.(wait until the old thread has reached 1200 posts before posting the new one)
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No. 2059664

>>2058976
It's Lauren Southern and "Alt-right" women are upset that "alt-right" men are treating them terribly" all over again, lol.

No. 2059666

>2059374
We all totally called it when those infamous texts leaked with her telling AB that they should be pregnant at the same time, kek. We said that she would be retarded if she tried to get pregnant before they were married or had some kind of contract in place. Even Azaelea was smart enough to try and encourage Grimes to go on a shopping spree with her on Elon's dime but Grimes was so stubborn about being the Cool Girl who didn't ask for money because she thought it would make him respect her more, kek. Genuinely retarded.

No. 2059667

>>2059303
He wanted her likability in clone form that he can mold but wasn’t ever in it for the long haul. Best to choose someone unstable so getting primary custody is ez pz unlike Justine or his previous exes. I know haha grimey is as charismatic as a potato but there’s a reason she was able to fraud her way to her current position and that’s her it factor/presence. I’m not saying she’s cooler than Amber or anything but that’s why he wanted a creative type specifically one w an appealing public brand. It def backfired like his plans eventually do but if there’s anything he’s talented at it’s falling up

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Well, it seems Claire’s buddies Nusi and Kanye had a lot more in common than anyone realized:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/kanye-west-model-jenifer-an-sexual-assault-lawsuit-1235178235/

No. 2059673

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>>2059672
picrel



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No. 1996943[Reply]

Passport bro, or passport bros is a movement of men who go to developing nations in order to find girlfriends or wives. These men believe that feminism has corrupted Western women, and seek to find a youthful, submissive, modest, conservative and feminine woman. Despite their claims passport bros often get caught with prostitutes, or seemingly never actually stick to one woman. Some have been robbed, assaulted or scammed on camera. But it doesn't deter most of them. A few have also been arrested. Most overlap with redpill and manosphere communities, especially the black manosphere. Which is why many have a hate boner for black women and speak on black (male) issues. 

Some examples of passport bros: 

>Auston holleman 

>was arrested in Brazil for sex tourism crimes in 2023, returned back to the country in 2024.
https://youtube.com/@austonholleman?si=70ukWovAjJ3px0LX

>International passport 

https://youtube.com/@internationalpassport?si=gqB4VVkgUij1ASZJ

>more to life 

https://youtube.com/@more2lifejay?si=LW2FiNrm0emUide3

>The Philip Scott show 

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No. 2059308

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>33 year old Bong moid
>teaching English to Thai children
Yeah we all know why he's over there lol.

A lot of passport bros seem to be getting killed and injured lately its nice.

No. 2059311

All men who travel to SEA alone and don't have family over there should have their phones and laptops searched by default. There's no way at least 70% of them aren't sex tourists and pedos going to have sex with underage Asians.

No. 2059373

>>2053047
Well I think THIS guy in particular went off jet-setting because English-speaking women who know what his Nazi tattoos mean kept calling the police.

No. 2059388

>>2050793
I had no idea you can honor kill men.

No. 2059567

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“and it's the birthplace of the most extreme of all extreme feminist movements” of course the passport bro would be against educated women who wouldn’t wanna date some ugly dude who only came to the country to exploit women



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No. 2054912[Reply]

Post your favourite e-begging cringe for cows who aren't significant enough to have their own thread.

El-Shab-Hussein

>Tumblr user who claims to be a man living in Gaza, but despite living in a warzone he spends his time making Tumblr callout posts and writes suspiciously like an American zoomer woman with a fandom blog.

>Wrote a long list of Gaza GoFundMes he says he personally vetted but never snows any evidence and claims people asking for evidence other than just his word are trying to doxx Palestinians. The Egyptian border with Palestine is closed and the banks in Gaza are shut, so therefore none of these "vetted" Gazans would be able to receive the money and use it to cross the Rafah crossing. Likely a scammer who's in on the GFM scams with the scammers he's posted on his vetted list.
>Vetted a person who forgot to switch accounts and sent a sugar daddy scam ask from his Gaza GoFundMe account. Instead of admitting the person is a scammer, he made up excuses such as them being hacked and them copying and pasting a sugar daddy scam without understanding what it meant because their English isn't good. Said he "revetted" them but gave no proof and accused people who asked for evidence of trying to doxx the obvious scammer.
https://www.tumblr.com/login_required/el-shab-hussein

Gwendoline Chant

>Gendercrit who was on Tumblr pretending to be an Asian lesbian refugee despite being a white bisexual Canadian woman with a Daddy kink irl

>Was in a group chat with Tumblr lesbians who organised each year to scam Transanta, a "charity" who are active every Christmas and just post Amazon wishlists sent in by trannies accompanied by a letter with some info about the life of the person submitting which they post on their Instagram so that TRAs can buy stuff off of the wishlists for Christmas. The charity claims to be for underprivileged trans youth but most of the wishlists they post are full of useless crap like anime merch and enamel pronoun pins, as well as people putting expensive things that would be immediately stolen from actual homeless people liPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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No. 2059378

>>2059101
>gives me the ability to further send good medicine throughout turtle island
im not american, but this reads as grossly caricaturistic.. would any legit native person say shit like this? genuinely makes her seem outright racist
>>2059175
absolutely fake and gay, this is some weird autopedo troon undoubtably. the cat mouth emoticon seals it for me

No. 2059390

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Someone's asking for a $600 gaming laptop, claiming they want to replace a laptop their grandma gifted them that their mom smashed.

No. 2059523

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>>2059378
>she (sage your shit)

No. 2059527

>>2059523
That's a small child in a red sweatshirt, is that supposed to prove she's actually a scrotum-haver or something? Her hair looks like it was pulled back in a ponytail as opposed to an actual short haircut, I think she's genuinely female.

No. 2059585

>>2059390
I've seen several laptops in lists and quite a few have been gifted. It's incredible how much money some handmaidens are willing to drop. At this rate someone's going to ask for a fucking car and get it. The post you're referencing is at least begging for a 'replacement', so many of these are literally 'Pls gib am broke teehee spinny' and they still get a ton of shit that nobody needs.



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No. 2033887[Reply]

Discuss people in your life, or people you have found online, who have lolcow potential.
Previous threads (in order but not properly numbered):
>>>/snow/20290
>>>/snow/34166
>>>/snow/614616
>>>/snow/925657
>>>/snow/1234227
>>>/snow/1656175
>>>/snow/1874504
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A couple of cows from the last course I did definitely belong itt.

Cow one:
>NLOG on steroids
>Literally the adult version of picrel
>Always scowling or glaring at people
>Has a deeply unpleasant personality which becomes obvious within 2 minutes of talking to her, least of all being a total edgelord
>Like, honorary moid levels of edgelord
>The qualification is animal related and involves a lot of direct handling. This girl takes great pleasure in telling us all that she could totally work in a slaughterhouse "if she wanted to" and that she could kill anything they gave her like le emotionless edgy badass
>Brings this up with every animal she works with
>Whenever something related to the "dark side" of nature is brought up (animals eating each other etc) she does a really loud sigh and goes "OMG THIS HAPPENS AND IT'S NATURAL GET OVER IT" even though nobody complained
>"HAHA THAT SOUNDS SO BADASS AND BRUTAL CAN WE SEE EXAMPLES?"
>"I'VE SEEN WAAAAAAY WORSE GORE THAN THAT JUST BY WALKING DOWN THE STREET, DID I MENTION THAT THE PLACE I GREW UP IN HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS A WARZONE" (it's not)
>Loudly bemoans the fact that our class is mostly girls
>One time I was having trouble catching a chicken and getting it back into its carrier, everyone else just found it funny and was either trying to help or making jokes, but this girl chimped out and SCREAMED at me to grab it
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No. 2059516

>>2059251
I've seen some of her posts before I deleted Instagram about how autism is akshually a superpower that gives you enhanced people skills or something and it pissed me off so badly I blocked her kekk

No. 2059518

>>2059463
I mean… Pearl is toxic AF, but is Roma really the one who should be pointing that out?(sage your shit)

No. 2059533

>>2059001
Correct, social work degrees mostly attract people who have received a bunch of useless therapy so they feel qualified to provide useless therapy to others

No. 2059561

>>2059533
previous anon from before but yeah, agreed. even though 90 percent of my class this year were incredibly good people, the previous cohort I was with was mostly made up of women over 30 with saviour complexes.

one of them used to brag about her ability to wrangle traumatized kids due to her own kids facing trauma because SHE didn't take the appropriate measures in any way to protect all three of them from their abusive shitbag father/her baby daddy and would laugh about it, now she's a case manager and worked for the government department that calls the shots for child protection to remove kids from homes.



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No. 2038272[Reply]

Coquette aesthetic or "Doelet/Dollette" is the neo Nyphet fashion trend between young women on social media. It's exactly like nymphet, only that it's apparently "less pedophilic" just because they said so (read: hypocrisy) even though the way they fantasize about Dolores Haze and obsess over being petite is exactly the same. They also dress the same, talk the same and post the same crap Tumblr did 10 years ago. Claim to be morally better than nymphet, but in fact they’re just the same (still into DD/lg, still romanticize abuse of women). Coquettes spend entire days on "girlblogging” (reposting same 10 pictures of Lizzy Grant taken from Pinterest), making idiotic Whisper memes, posting fawn pictures, posting thinspo and calling themselves "waifs,” even though most of them weigh 60kgs, and tagging everything with "Alana Champion Lily-Rose Depp Lana Del Rey,” even when it has nothing to do with those chicks.

Recent Milk:
>Alida moves in with longtime fan and musician, Brooklyn Shaw >>1991835 making half-assed attempts at launching her own music career >>1991832 >>1992146 >>1992189 and her followers fuel her delusions of grandeur as per usual >>1992202
>Alida still thinks she's a Nordic Aryan princess and God's favorite >>1991834, ties to neonazism >>1992243
>Suspicions of Alida and Orion being over for good >>1992802 >>1992972
>Anons find Nina's bloated 55 year old husband's Twitter, where he predictably likes and retweets posts normalizing large age gaps >>1994000 young women's anachan bodychecks >>1994000 might be Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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No. 2059407

>>2059147
there was no case. brooklyn wasn’t even in nashville. y’all are tinfoiling way too much. it was a restraining order. you don’t go to court for that it’s a one and done. brooklyn got a restraining order on alida, not the other way around.

No. 2059408

she constantly posts schizo shit like that. she prolly just posted that because she was in nashville, remembering things. and trying to convince herself she was the innocent angel in the situation. how many times has she said “the truth will come out” ??

No. 2059503

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>>2059407
Why did she post this story outside of a court building then? I do admit I was tinfoiling but why would she go back to nashville then?

No. 2059550

>>2059503
she probably saw the word “justice” and wanted to take a photo by the building since she’s constantly quoting “justice will be served!” come on guys its ALIDA. you really think she’s in a court room talking like a normal person? and who does photo shoots when they have to go to court. brooklyns dog bit alida, and then somewhere after that brooklyn filed a restraining order on alida and on restraining orders there’s an option to have the person removed from living at your property. why would court be involved at all for this? nobody was arrested, no crimes were committed other than brooklyns dog biting alida. she’s so deranged and delusional that she really truly believes she’s the victim in every situation and she schizo posts about that all the TIME on the internet. she’s so “holier than thou” justice shall be served!!! kek

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comparing both pictures, it's weird how different she looks now. she used to be pretty and now she looks so average



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