>>516590nona, i loved Xeno 1 (the Definitive edition is excellent) and 3, but is a completely different vibe from DQ. as you say, they are slow games. and for anyone who just wants to play a game for an hour or so, no one can be arsed to wait 2 or so hours until you get a sliver of entertainment out of it. DQ11 made me cry like a baby on game reset, so that means you need to play it twice (!!) to get the whole package, and that's around 110hrs. that's clearly no instant satisfaction, as none of the elements of the game (story, combat, etc) caters to that. as for Golden Sun, i liked the second one better for some reason? they are very similar to Lufia, Lufia 2 being one of my fave rpgs of all time. it's very "go from town to dungeon to town etc etc" type of game, but i think the appeal of the first one might be that the characters are more on the lawful heroic type than the second one.