/g/ - girl talk

Any nonnas diagnosed with vaginismus? Is the pain more sharp or dull? I'm 90% certain I have it, but I'm terrified of going to a doctor about it (if I do have it it's entirely psychological because of trauma). I bought a dilator kit in the mean time and it's painful on entry but when it's inside there's this really weird dull ache and it doesn't seem to be that consistent with what I've read about vaginismus online.

Since I hit puberty I've always smelled down there. Whether I wash with PH sensitive wash, plain water, or whatever within about 24 the smegma just comes back and I smell bad. I've been on antibiotics for UTIs in the past few years, I've taken thrush pessaries, taken BV gel, but absolutely nothing changes. What gives?

>>516286
Isn't this normal? I don't get a lot of smegma but definitely get some after 24 hours. I wouldn't say I smell particularly strong tho.

>>516076
For me the pain feels like a sharp burning wall on entry. Vaginismus can present in a lot of different ways honestly nonna. Some women can't even insert a pinky finger, some women manage fine on everything except the largest dilator, etc etc. It would be best to speak to a doctor that's understanding about women's health anyway just to rule out any infections or other issues. You can explain your trauma around penetration and you don't have to do anything you don't want to.

>painful on entry but when it's inside there's this really weird dull ache and it doesn't seem to be that consistent with what I've read about vaginismus online
That's how my pain feels too. Burning and painful on entry but once it gets past a certain point it's replaced with a more dull mild pain. Have you been using the dilators long enough to see an improvement pain wise?

Is it normal if it hurts when I masturbate during the first days of my period? I climax for a few seconds I don't feel anything before the most painful cramp known to man strikes me

>>482605
sped take

>>497078
>>517452
>>517581
>>517687
I've never met a picky eater male who wasn't a selfish prick.

I hate:
- tall men
- hairy men
- fat men
- buzzcuts
- facial hair

>>517730
Based

>>517268
I'm not really a fan of msub personally but I notice that Japanese creators are more willing to do this? Maybe you could try dipping your toes into Japanese audios. From the ones I've listened to, mainly mdom, there's not a ton of name calling either, so I would assume that msub would have very little as well. I will say though that they go way too hard sometimes with the sucking, licking and slurping noises but if you can get past that you might find something enjoyable

https://soundgasm.net/u/AugustInTheWinter/M4F-Destressing-the-DILF-Next-Door

Didn't see this one posted but someone shared it in one of the fetish threads a while ago. It's Msubby.

>>516953
I know I keep going on about this, highly encourage nonnas to request in the MSA thread. I feel like if the MSA thread on 4chan gets more active, more men will come in looking for attention. Then once a nice voice comes in we can request many audios and accumulate a nice lolcow-custom audio library https://boards.4chan.org/soc/thread/33841415
It used to be kind of active a few years back and I got some nice audios

>>517317
I was going to request in that thread but seeing it being overtaken by a guy whos kink is mommy/son incest is really off putting.. to say the least

Try
>>>/m/439178

>>517001
As a fellow millennial, I hate to say it but you are right. I mean personally, I didn't have too many bad experiences with trads compared to others but tbf, I didn't interact with a lot of them and the few I did were helpful though I did hear stories of some of the not so welcoming trads who didn't help newcomers as much and seeing where goth is now as it is semi-mainstream (on social media, not so much irl), I totally can see why some of the trads were not as open and preferred to keep things underground. Because so many of our generation practice openness to the point where we allowed things that didn't have anything to do with goth, namely politics & "gender identity". I know that politics had somewhat been a thing with the trads but they made sure for the most part to keep the goth subculture and politics separate.

>Thry took our subculture and made it soley about gender bullshit and whatever popped into their head.
That and how much it exploded on Instagram and later Tiktok turning it into a fashion popularity show. These people certainly existed back in the 2000s but it went into overdrive when Instagram and later TikTok became popular.

But yeah, it's time that we did set things straight and try to reign in the crazy that the trads were afraid would happen, we owe them that much which is why I'm not afraid to speak out and "terf" when I see BS about gendie specials appropriating it.

>And this is why I will gatekeep in a constructive way. I get why Trads wanted to keep goth exclusive because they didn't want it hijacked. It's not too late to pull the reins in but I think in order to reclaim goth for what it is, we need more people gatekeeping.
Exactly.

>>517259
There has been plenty of discussion in this thread and the previous one ranging from music to DIY tips, and history lessons along side venting about trans ideology (which yes, has become a big thing in the subculture). Like >>517307 said, you're the only one who seems to have a problem with it. Just ignore it, you don't have to participate in the conversation. Just bring up what you want to talk about and engage with the people who engage back with you.

>>517259
youre trans arent you? why are you even here lmao you have 100 subreddits kissing your ass 24/7. anyways ive been enjoying listening to screams for tina

I have a situation similar to >>459736 where I also have a sister who started getting into goth and how it's making me feel a certain way as someone who has been into the scene since 2008. Granted, we aren't twins and she's one year older than me but still, similar situation of uncomfortable feelings.

But yeah, my sister started getting into goth last year and like other anon, I'm pretty sure it's because of TikTok and Instagram because she's very much into those social media. To be fair, she was a bit of a metalhead in the sense that she listened to a lot of metaclcore bands like In This Moment, Butcher Babes, and Bring Me The Horizon but style-wise, she wasn't someone who dressed in all black or anything like that though she did dress somewhat like a metalhead what with having piercings and tattoos. But in late summer she all of a sudden started wanting to go goth where she started wearing all black and somewhat getting into the music though with newer bands like Moonvampire and Molchat Doma. And I know that this sudden interest is mostly from social media because I know those bands were trending on TikTok last year.

Either way, I get anon in the sense that it does feel weird when you have a sibling suddenly become interested in something like a subculture that you've been interested in for a very long time back when it wasn't cool or popular. I know that it's petty to wish your sibling stayed out of an interest that means a lot to you and I guess I feel this way because we already had enough in common yet we had something that defined our sensibilities (her being into metalcore and hip-hop music, me being into goth and post-punk) It just feels weird, especially when it more than likely is happening because goth is trendy on social media platforms at this time. Like >>460196 said, it's totally inline with a feeling of loss identity.

I'm not going to be an asshole and tell her to stop or anything like that because that's immature but like other anon admitted, I just don't engage with her about goth because it's something I want to keep to myself and she can just try and talk about it with other people instead though deep down I'm hoping it's just a passing phase and I'll be surprised if she's still interested when the goth sensationalism on TikTok & Instagram diePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

No amount of whining is going to change that trans and goth are two separate topics. And not because there is any requirement on being or not trans to be goth. Just like there is no requirement on having any certain political ideological outlook to be goth. It always been a spectrum. You don't have to like it either to be goth. Goth is not about liking or not reality. Just look at Valor and all conspiracies he believes in.

Should I ever become known, in varying degrees, would my internet sex stuff come out? What should I do to avoid that now?

Will I move out with my friend soon? Things getting heated here

>>500914
Nonny is right about the female voice being oppressed. Ovaritmin just announced ovarit will be closed the site soon and there is no other space like that
The VPN ban is also going the way you predicted nonnie

Can I get some help interpreting a spread? I've been feeling lost about the career path I want to take (I'm a wagie college dropout who'd like to progress onto something better). I got these results:
>My current position
10 of Wands reversed
>My natural talents
King of Pentacles reversed
>Challenges to Overcome
Ace of Pentacles reversed
>Ideal Career Path
Wheel of Fortune reversed
>Next Step
Five of Pentacles (the only upright card I got), and Six of Pentacles reversed.
I also pulled a card from the Celtic Goddesses oracle to see what goddess archetype I'd embody in my professional life and got Morgan Le Fay.
Am I correct in assuming this means traditional career paths aren't for me?

>>517246
>Current position
Burnout, hard work, dead end job energy. Physical exhaustion, it’s time to move on from your wagie job and find something else that’s more fulfilling. It’s a completion card before the start of a new journey, ace of wands, which would represent a creative venture of some sort, so maybe you were probably inspired to take a new step in your life from seeing others people’s lives and creativity being expressed.
>Natural talents
King of Pentacles reversed means the positive energy of the king of pentacles would be blocked, so I think you’re very stubborn, complacent and want things handed to you on a silver spoon. The king of pentacles would be like the king who turns everything into gold including himself, but I feel with the reversed it’s the earthy resourcefulness and knowing what its like to be the underdog with absolutely nothing to their name that could turn you back around and lead you into better opportunities, essentially a rag to riches tale if you play your cards right.
>Challenges to overcome
Another reversed pentacles card, problems with paying off debts and bills is a huge one. I feel your wagie job is struggling to catch up with your bills I’m intuitively picking up on, putting you into difficult financial situations. I get the feeling this is like maybe borrowing money or receiving money from banks and not being able to pay it back, but your wage is just not covering your expenses here which could be a challenge if you want to transition smoothly to the new journey you seek in your life.
>Ideal career path
Again this is kind of the same message I said with the king of pentacles reversed, rags to riches but honestly I don’t know what it would be. I honestly think it’s talking about you being a college dropout because it’s a card of missed opportunity, I think it’s urging you to really reconsider education and to have better faith in your ability and future because when you dropped out, it really out your life on a stand still and it’s digging you into a cyclical rut that will become even more difficult to dig yourself out of if you wait longer.
>Next step
It would be removing yourself from unfair situations, which would be your wagie job and youPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>517642
I feel like Tracy isn't the type to keep a secret either, if Sydney dated him she probably would have said it.

>>517463
looking at this again, he really has a thing for 5'7-ish (or taller) barely average women. i think he wanted to ensure his kids were tall and not short through out their school years like he was KEK
kind of surprising that he actually deviated from the typical redpill guys that prefer "petite feminine women" since it seems like he incapable of thinking for himself.
his more recent supposed exes dont really even seem that feminine especially with the way the type of accounts he follows lament that modern women arent feminine…? he isnt beating the homo rumors

>>517648
Maybe she wasn't that retarded and knew better than to bring up an ex since that would bring needless dogpiling on someone who doesn't want the attention.

>>517648
Tracy plays up on whether they were more than friends - the couch video, the blacked out convo that might have been about stargazing - and she can't do that if she says he had a girlfriend, it makes him like like a POS and her like an attention seeker

>>517651
Agreed, she spends more time insinuating she was close with him
>>517650
Yeah, but if not Tracy, slimy RJ would have said something but his take was weegee couldn't fuck. He probably said that out of jealousy or maybe he really had no gfs out in Hawaii

>>516184
>>516538
I think it's best when a wife and husband have only known each other. That's why virginity is good and being a slut isn't.

I lost my virginity at 19 in a college bathroom with my 19-year old boyfriend back then, a classmate from one of my courses, after almost a year dating.

Honestly, the foreplay was really nice, decent cock in size and girth, but the sex itself was pretty mediocre, the guy was super sweet while doing it, kisses and a hip massage included. We would hang out like usual and even meet to have sex after class in his place or by a motel, and again, foreplay was the best part. We broke up after a big fight a couple of days before my 20th birthday and we never spoke again.

Honestly, my first time was nothing special, I liked the guy, but after that and other past relationships with both girls and dudes, sex as a concept became a bit overrated for me.

>>516535
Well that’s usually the case. In the west the guys you want will use you without commitment as you’ll pump up his ego. The guys you don’t want obviously are not at your standard
Basically the 5 chases the 7 and rejects the 3. In trad cultures it gives you the chance to trap that 7. Especially ones were sons are favoured where there’s more men then women . So you get more choice. Just got to watch out for the leftover rapey 3s.
Its basically reverse of Russia where women out number men. Eastern Europe idols full of beautiful 9/10 blondes with guys that look like shrek.
Just by being modest you automatically win in a patriarchy . As long as parents and cousins are involved we keep each other in check.
This hook up culture just wastes your prime and leaves you jaded
Ya raised muzzy but not religious just modest in front of family and not really an extraverted to go get drunk go nuts in a club and mess with a bunch of moids. Like must feel gross to get used and then just walk home that some caveman was grunting on top of you.
That plus a feel weird in clothes that are super tight and showing off my muffin top lol
I do love shoes though

>>516419
32, not from a trad culture and not saving myself for marriage either, I don't even want a LTR, I'm just not attracted anyone and only uggo moids are into me because they can't do better. And I'd rather die than let family find me someone kek.
>male virgin
No thank you.

>>516315
Fingers in mouth is so elite I love the vulnerability of it.

>>516941
why would you post this disgusting male shit here

>>517221
I didn't watch the video but I'm pretty sure it's just an oldhead joke about bulimia. disregard

>>517279
you people will just say anything kekkkkk you weren't even close. not any of the previous anons but it's a clip of lucy liu putting on a seductive voice and licking some moid's fingers…

>>513787
My last ex had unmedicated ADHD. I didn’t see the full effects of it at first, because after we met we were in different countries, and he seemed to live a full and interesting life. Then he came back to my country. I’ve never had such whiplash in thinking that I knew somebody:
I came to realise that he was so detached from the real world that I became so tired of telling him ‘no’. No, we can’t just hire a boat and sail down my city’s major river. No, we wouldn’t be able to eventually get married in my city’s most famous landmark. He was unable to do basic chores to the extent that I thought he might be retarded. On the other hand, if it was weaponised incompetence, he came across as so incompetent I lost all attraction to him. He was a master of lovebombing, which initially distracted me from the fact that he had no respect for the fact that I had to work full time and didn’t have the time or energy to cater to his every whim. I was like a shell of myself.
I waited for him to go back to his home country to break up with him. He flipped and sent endless emotionally manipulative messages and voicenotes. I asked for space, which he didn’t respect, and so I blocked him and then he started messaging my family members. According to the latest update from his social media from a friend several months later, he thinks I was cheating on him. They live on their own fucking planet. They don’t see others as complete people, but caricatures of themselves who are good (enabling) or bad (emotionally resilient; self-preserving).
When we got together, this thread was active: >>>/g/381978. Nonas talk about their experience with ADHD moids in it. I wish I'd paid more attention to it.

>>516914
I'm the anon who previously said that dating ADHD moids isn't worth it and this is exactly why (full disclosure I never dated one, but some of my friends have). If you look at typical dating advice forums, even kind of retarded ones like FDS, one of the useful takeaways is 'never date a moid who doesn't actively make your life better than it was when you were single (outside of sex). A lot of women are kind of bad about this because we've been primed from childhood to think that life with 'romance' or a partner is automatically better, but whenever I see a woman in some early relationship stage asking 'ladies, is it worth it to date (X type of man with massive neon red flag above head)' I just automatically think 'no, if you have to ask it isn't.'

The best case with an ADHD moid is that he is self-dx'd retard making excuses for why he can't complete any tasks or goals in school or work. The middle case is he's a semi-normal moid who has talked a therapist into a diagnosis and is going to be an amphetamine addict for the rest of his life as a result. The worst case is that he actually has ADHD, which is a neurodevelopmental disorder that means he's literally been brain damaged in some way from birth, and while neurodivergent women frequently manage to rise above that with self-discipline and empathy for other people, neurodivergent men basically don't, ever. They will never 'get you,' they will act deranged and use their diagnosis as an excuse for lacking ambition and life skills, they will pity themselves when you expect them to rise above their neurological issues the way most women with ADHD/autism are expected to. The other really horrible thing about ADHD moids (highlighted in that thread) is they will be the most porn-addicted coomers alive, 10 times worse than regular coomer men. The only instance in which it makes sense to date an ADHD moid is if you dated him for a year or more before even finding out he has ADHD, he seems normal and together in every way and you just found out he has ADHD by accident. Otherwise literally why would you add that kind of chaos to your life when even mentally 'normal' men are on average so awful to date?

>>516918
I'm the anon you're replying to and couldn't agree more. My ex came along when I was feeling ready to say 'yes' to everything because life had felt quiet for a year and it seemed like a partner was the only thing 'missing'. The fact that he wasn’t from my country was exciting, and he seemed to have a lot of ambition which – in the longterm – would have opened up opportunities for me also. It was only when he was here that I realised I had replaced all his other future plans and he put his education on hold to become a neet hobo in my country.
In hindsight, my life was complete. Steady job, own living space, good friends, hobbies. I’ve done so much reflection since he left, journaled until I can’t anymore, and opened up to friends about the shame I feel for missing the red flags. What comforts me is that I’m invested in my personal growth, whereas I know that he’s still blaming me for everything going wrong and looking for the perfect sex-mother. Whereas I'm content to just get laid every once in a while lmao.
Also I've just realised I completely fucked up replying to >>516187 so I hope she sees all this.

>>516929
>>516914
>>516366
Thank you kind anons, I figured it would be a bad idea. I also think it's not just adhd but also some co-morbidity of a personality disorder going on although I can't tell if the "being affectionate and then go directly to ignoring" is just an adhd trait or something else but this moid is already medicated and he is still showing plenty red flags despite at first treating me really well. Naturally I was hoping it would go back to that state at some point but reading your experiences here I have abandoned all hope. Seems like all they are good for is a situationship and to dump them right after if one is lucky enough not to catch feelings..

>>516929
This isn't the same thing but I have had a close female friend for the last 18 or so years who has ADHD and despite being more tolerable due to being a female friend, I relate to the 'seemed to have a lot of ambition which… would have opened up opportunities for me.' My female ADHD friend was constantly pitching projects to me which sounded ambitious and vaguely aligned with my pre-existing career/hobby goals and I kept pouring effort and energy into making them happen while she would eventually drop them and get defensive about the fact I was still talking about them. I can't imagine how much worse it would be with a moid who lacks the empathy and theory of mind to even realize that he is putting your life on hold for his fleeting, fake ambitions about 'projects' he will never commit to; at least my female ADHD friend felt sorry when she dropped the ball and actively apologized for stringing me along.

>I had replaced all his other future plans and he put his education on hold to become a neet hobo in my country.
This is such a common story from my friends who have dated ADHD moids it's not even funny. It's like they can only focus on one thing at a time so if they seem to be focusing on your relationship you can bet the futures of your unborn grandchildren on the fact he is definitely letting every other aspect of his life lapse and depending on him to bail you out if he's acting attentive to you. I had extremely accomplished, educated, together female friends lose months or years of their lives to these moids who tried to monopolize their energy only to then drop it on them they had no future plans outside of 'depending on the relationship for future happiness.' And like you're saying these were women with their own homes, friends, hobbies, good careers.

>>516933
>medicated and he is still showing plenty red flags
Could be comorbidities, could be that the ADHD diagnosis is a convenient cover for a cluster B personality disorder too. A man going straight from extremely affectionate directly to ignoring sounds kind of par for the course for ADHD (not caring unless something is the most amusing thing right in front of them) but it could also be something like BPD or NPD too. If he's alrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>513234
Have you been homeschooled?

I really wish I had a group of female friends, or at least more girl friends, however I feel so uncomfortable around most of them. I feel like they low-key dislike me, and I just can't be myself with them. I've been wondering if I'm autistic since it has only been with few clearly weird girls that I got along.

>>434994

Are you literally me? Because this is the same experience that I'm having right now. I didn't have a lot of irls growing up and not a lot of friends except online since I was like 12 and up until recently I kinda have more irl friends now (not a lot but still at least people to hang out with) but yeah explaining how I grew up, mentioning being a shut in neet and how it took me until I was like 23 to socialize normally is hard for people to understand or relate. The more I do socialize with normies though the more I realize I like that I enjoy my own company more but I wish I had more female friends who are socially stupid like me irl.

>>513230
i don't mind being banned for replying. do you know that women can actually talk in the real world and that most have shitty attitudes about other women? i don't feel bad for pushing her and for wanting my childhood friend to stop saying that teen girls are mini adults or that she didn't deserve to get raped and it should've been a whore instead. maybe you're used to being around conservative women who stick their heads in the sand but i don't want someone i'm vulnerable with to spout the same unimaginative and self-hating bullshit
>>515301
thank you. it feels like every friendship i've had has some kind of invisible wall that prevents us from being serious. i want to be more honest with people

>>434994
This is me minus a relationship, which frustrates me since I'm the odd one out IRL for that. I feel like you're (general you) kinda screwed if you never got the formative socialization of having childhood or adolescent friends. Even as a wagie that makes decent money instead of a NEET, I never understood how coworkers can socialize and just joke around like I never understood how classmates could. But I just find online interactions annoying, most memes and social media is obnoxious and I can't stand how undersocialized people are. Even as an autistic I hate how other spergs purposely ignore social cues and rules and act shocked when people dislike them.