/g/ - girl talk

>>478647
I used to post on /tttt/ back when it was first introduced (I still remember the pop tart memes in the ftm threads) and it is wiiild that men are still spouting this bs about women being able to be more gnc. It's on par with them claiming they didn't get male socialized because they got called faggots for being bad at footyball or something, it's beyond retarded.

They don't know what it's like to be a woman and assume because a woman can wear pants while they can't wear their shitty schoolgirl skirts from aliexpress, that any woman who's actually GNC (not just a "tomboy" a la anime porn where it's a girl with short hair and a curvy body with huge boobs), it's socially acceptable.

>>477260
>>477285
Thank you for taking the time to give real advice, idk what to say but it genuinely helps.

>>477593
No you just can't read.

When I was a teen I was an FTM, and I did a bit of binding but thankfully detransitioned before taking T or doing anything drastic. I had typical low self-esteem from being bullied for most of my childhood. Hated my body after SA. I was also a total handmaiden, and a libfem who only knew shit through circles of Tumblr. Total SJW. Then I started hearing those arguments made by trannies where cis people had to date them or else it was transphobic, and it didn't sit right with me (I can't believe I didn't peak because of all the other shit they were saying going around too, but hindsight is 20/20), because I believed people didn't have to date anyone they didn't want to date. Didn't matter if you had a thing about race, religion, or just because you didn't like the same sports team (which I would have thought is stupid af but people can do what they want), but on the other hand I was conflicted because it was still MuH TRanSpHobia. So, wanting to have a conversation about it, I made a thread on a trans forum with snippets I had found from arguments against it, and my own opinion asking what other people thought.

The thread BLEW UP with posts, and there was like one person who responded rationally to it, where they explained their side (which amounted to "It hurts trans persons feefees so it must be wrong. Anything that hurts feefees is wrong") and the rest of the comments were either calling my post bait, or calling me a fucking retard because it's totally not okay to not date trans people just because they're trans at all ever and how dare I even ask if it could be okay, even though they never gave any explanation as to why (majority of responses were from TIMs if you couldn't already tell kek). I felt really bad about offending the tranny cult, feeling like I had done something wrong, even though I was just asking because I was conflicted on the matter. It actually made me cry, because I felt so bad to have even asked the question. I was a stupid teenager. But this experience caused me to go outside of the echochamber I was in because now I felt distanced from them, and I read some arguments from the other side, and eventually I peaked myself because all of their arguments made more and more sense to me.

I don't know where I'd be, or how fucked up my body would be at this point, had I not made that forum post. I'd like to think that I would have peaked eventually anyway, but I don't know how long it would have taken because back then I baPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I'm not an actual detransitioner (maybe more like desister?) and I don't wish to make light of/compare myself to actual detransitioners, but I wasn't sure where to post this, so apologies in advance.

I struggled making friends at school as a 13 year old, and due to my interests I ended up on reddit. I would always lurk, but I saw these people as my "friends" in a collective sense, and also as many of them were adults I always saw them as smarter, more mature and more informed than myself. I had little by way of interaction with either sex as a teenager, but especially as I went further in to these online communities I started seeing how women and girls were treated and viewed there: the nasty DMs from pedophiles and sex-pests, the constant jokes at their expense that wasn't a thing for boys, etc. The general consensus on these things was that they were normal, and there were often comments from "women" I realised later that many of these people were probably not actually women at all saying these things were fine, that accepting them is just part of being a woman, and that many of these gross compliments and interactions were flattering to them. As I had no opinions from other girls and women in real life to reference this with, and considering there were so many of these type of comments, and many of them seemed to be by adults, I believed this (but could not accept it for myself). I thought there must have been something wrong with me, that was until I saw upon people talking about transgenderism in this context (suggesting to the heavily downvoted comments that expressed discomfort with it that real women did not have an issue with it, and if they did they might be trans men). While I didn't really understand transgenderism because it's bullshit that makes no fucking sense it did seem to line up with how I felt: discomfort with (what I now know is called misogyny), discomfort in my body and secondary sex characteristics (something which made my peers and parents consider me abnormal, despite it being a fairly common teenage experience), and interests more associated with boys. I trusted these adults to know better than me, but I nonetheless did my own research (in complete good faith) to try to understand how this phenomenon worked. I read through all the (peer reviewed!) medical documents they linked, went through wikipedia sources to find them, went through medical journals to find thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Probably doesn't count but I used to really hate attention or being looked at/perceived as anything. I just didn't want to be anything and felt like a theythem because female was something and I didn't feel like something, I didn't feel male, so guess I was another thing. But theythem is still a "something" so I ditched that too and went back to defaults kek. Still don't want to be seen, but at least don't buy into the gendie shit

>>518401
This is nonsensical. Younger women become single moms too

>>519015
Freezing eggs is a scam if you’re healthy though. unless you’re about to go through cancer treatment (radiation and some chemo drugs can damage the eggs), or you’re looking to put off kids until like a few years from menopause (50s for most women, but can vary). I grew up in a town where it was common for women to have kids older though. I can see why women would be worried if they’re from somewhere with younger mothers and it’s out of the norm, but if you’re healthy and have a regular cycle, there really is no need to waste money freezing them. A lot of the risks associated with older pregnancy are just fear mongering, most women still have healthy kids, and there is inherent risk with pregnancy at literally any age, younger women do have kids with health issues as well but that’s never discussed for some reason. I think some of it is ageism.

>>518324
I have noticed lot of people fear mongering women over having kids later are just loser guys who are mad at women. These same guys think it’s good for 80 year old celebrity men to father kids with one foot in the grave, as if that makes more sense than a healthy 40 year old woman having a child

>>519036
>>519030

when manosphere peaked scrotes would make memes about women being empty cartons at 35, dried up, expired, etc. Yea, that's not how it works. Until you hit menopause in your 40s, your chances of getting pregnancy are still high. I bet for childfree women they wish their reproduction system shut down at 35 so they dont have to care about BC anymore but yea thats the not the reality.
And i'll see comments in reddit and etc of people spreading misinfo that at 35 a woman's chances significantly decreases every year which isn't true too. The difference between a healthy 27 year old vs a healthy 37 year old is 4%ish (87% v 82% chance in the first year, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14704244). But then they'll bring up disabilities, and I forgot where the study was but when they say the risks doubles, it's like .01% to .02% or something like that. It's all like fearmongering to pressure and spook women. But if you're overweight, health issues, pcos, family illnesses, THEN you're kinda fucked.

>>518136 so dont worry about it, you have plenty of time. Take your time to find the right person otherwise you'll regret being connected to a loser for like 18-20 years.

>>518871
>>518980
>>519547
I appreciate the supportive replies. I feel so alone right now and none of my friends check on me. Maybe it's because I don't show my emotions so freely, but I'm dying inside lol.
People are so incredibly negative about the 30's dating pool that it makes me feel blackpilled. Plus I just can't believe I've been rug pulled by someone I trusted. This just makes me feel so scared of getting close to anyone. And I don't think I could financially swing being a single mom by choice.
There will be no oopsie baby with a rando, I want to do it right or not at all. I'll try again some day to find someone, but in the mean time, I just have to fill my life up with things that give it meaning regardless if this all works out or not.

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Sorry nonnies, I thought I had successfully deleted the thread after I noticed the typo but the April Fool’s CSS got the better of me.

im so glad i never killed myself. i finally dont feel extreme anxiety and depression and panic attacks every day. i feel like a functioning member of society lately but i also feel a lot of emotional blunting. but at the moment idc cuz its better than extreme mental suffering

>>513246
A bit late and might not be related to your issue at all, since I didn't have the same problems, but I slept on a hard mattress for two years and as soon as I got a softer one, it resolved a surprising amount of issues I had. Maybe check if something about your mattress could be causing this.

>>518369
if your pcp is being a bastard you can go to urgent care or the ER. tell them you've VERY recently started having extreme thirst and peeing an insane amount, now you're feeling weak and like something is really wrong. that'll get them to run the tests to check your blood sugar, urine, and kidney function at the very least and you'll have a better answer. don't dick around waiting for retarded pcps to do the right thing nona.

I have an itchy bump on the inside of my labia that appeared yesterday. Went to the doctor and got tested just in case but she told me it likely is just a dry irritated patch of skin. Has anyone else experienced this, im freaking out.

>>518482
Sounds like your body is processing the stress. You still have all the hormone related issues but may miss a month of "bleeding". If it happens again, then it is time to consult your obygyn. It isn't uncommon after major body changes, inflammation, weight loss or infections to miss a period. Your body may have focused it's resources on the stressors elsewhere. Document it for now and talk to a dr if it repeats.

>>518859
gonna try urgent care when I next feel horrible. I'd love to try the ER but I'm not sure if my insurance would cover such a thing so I'd only go if I again feel like I'm dying like I did a few times last year.

also another gross thing I noticed that is new and feeling bad is that my BO is absolutely terrible, almost like ammonia or some other chemical, rotten scent even if I shower daily probably just is a stress thing and not some kind of clue but it's so embarrassing. it seems to take a few days to wear off and I start smelling normal again after I have a particularly bad episode.

>>516186
>Attractive Women You’d Want to Fuck
lowkey all of you
But particularly the goff ones

>>516363
and her

>>516364
and also her

Wanted to post this but there's a moid. Sorry for the shoddy emojis

>>516650
Does the perm involve any significant heat or chemicals at all? If not, perm. If yes, stay frizzy, use a lot of gel, and try to regrow healthy hair again.

hi! i have long (mid-back length) and thick 3a curly hair. i'm biracial (black + white) and can use products for natural hair comfortably. i've been a bit of a hermit for a couple years while finishing my degree so i've just been letting it grow and throwing it in a braid, but i'm starting an outdoorsy job this summer and i need to do… something with it. it's a bit unruly and gets frizzy if i leave it out of protective styles for too long.

my curls are healthy, but i've never really taken care of long curly hair. the humid weather where i live now also affects it a lot.

so two questions, i guess. 1. how do people cut 3a hair so it actually has a bit of shape/style? 2. products for keeping it tame while it's out of braids? i currently use 'not your mother's' curl cream, it works okay. i've also used almond oil but i'm not a huge fan of it. like i said, i can use heavier products and my hair will just eat it up, so not too concerned about that.

I wanted a lighter brown but stylist gave me auburn brown and now dark brown. I want to get it lighter and dye it a lighter brown with box dye myself.
Would you recommend using a color remover like pic related or the classic baking soda, vitamin c and head and shoulders diy thing? I want the best integrity for my hair possible. Im not trying to lift the color a lot just a lighter brown but not blonde. Not looking for bleach. I used color oops years ago and it made my hair damaged imo so I’m thinking of using color fix now.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a hair product to use in order to keep braids sleek? Braids are one of the only hair styles I can do but they look so frizzy.

>>517148
I've got thick long hair but a bit looser (2C-3A) so take this with a grain of salt, but a recent game changer has been to apply a strong hold gel then NOT scrunch out the gel cast after drying the hair. By letting the wear of the day and sleep do the work of removing the cast you end up with curls that stay in place with minimal frizz for a few days. I would suggest something like a curl custard since it'll have ingredients that both moisturize and lock in that moisture (picrel is my recommendation). As far as haircuts go, you can't go wrong with layers. They'll free up some weight to allow the curls to spring up and create fun textures around the head. You don't necessarily have to spend $200+ on a curly cut these days but when shopping for hairdressers definitely look at their portfolio/before and afters

Another xhs male

>>518584
I like imagining /fit/ moids have an inside joke that’s just a butt

>>518800
eww why did it give me a rance pfp

>>518801
Sounds about right. Gayasses.

>>516123
I think I have a fetish for backwards-hat frat boys. I would never fuck one, but it would be fun to watch them fuck each other.

Manifesting I get hit by a bus badly enough to survive but not have to work ever again.

>>461090
>>474811
>>487241
I get pregnant in april

I am happy and healthy, as are my family members and friends. I have a great job that fills me with joy and is really well paid, way better than I expected. I rent my own cute apartment, it is so cozy and wonderful, I enjoy living here very much. I have a boyfriend who adores me and is handsome, sweet and chill. Things are going great for my friends as well and I get to see them often and we travel together.

I don't have an incurable std, I'm just being paranoid or it's an easily treatable infection like syphilis

I’m so happy that I have my dream job here in L.A. I’m so so happy that I have INDEPENDENCE! I love going to concerts here, I always meet wonderful people and even some artists.
Also I’m so glad that my family is healthy and doing AWESOME, can’t wait to visit them again and go to the beachside like we always do. Also I’m so happy with my body, my legs and ass look phenomenal lol I can see that everyone is always asking for my workout routine. I’m so glad for everything!

>>515730
it has been long time coming and some people posting in these threads have been the exact people to encourage it

>>515730

straight women are just as put off about lesbians as straight men are with gay men they just are more passive and thus show it in more subtle ways. like with shady comments or social ostracism.

>>517418
Exactly, most people are grossed out by the sex they're not attracted to doing it. Lesbians are disgusted by straight shit as a result. It's retarded as fuck that straight people go out of their way to be pricks about it. It's 2025 and these straight women still think we're sex offenders by default

i feel crushingly lonely. no irl friends at the moment. my last female friend has been ghosting me for months. sometimes i feel like i wont ever find a woman who will share her life with me the way i want her to. all the women in my area are handmaidens. im tired of being lonely and craving intimacy

>>518784
I hope I’m not the friend that’s been ghosting you…

>>501175
Femcels arent real and neither are incels. Most 'femcels' are black, brown and Asian women who aimed for a white guy who was out of their league, got pumped and dumped by him or rejected for a blonde Stacy, and now have a hateboner for white women and think not being able to get a top tier model bf makes them celibate. Incels are the exact same, 3/10 guys who wont settle for anything less than a 8/10 woman.

>>501175
I guess thats a fair conclusion, though like you mentioned I wouldn't exactly conflate activity for prescence.White women likely consist of the majority just going based on Demographics of english users

I definitely noticed dogma in the vein of -cel thought on here racially. The whole yellow fever thing is kind of a new thing for me and I just cannot for the life of me believe it. I grew up in Hawaii and white moids going after asian women happens ig but not like how its potrayed here. Mainland racism isnt as fun as back home.

>>502687
>white moids going after asian women happens ig
>The whole yellow fever thing is kind of a new thing for me
literally you

Hope this doesn't count as racebait. Are white parents generally just not as physically affectionate with their kids? I remember my mom kissing me on the head and cheeks a lot in public as an older child and she was seen as a fucking creep for it by my white peers/teachers when it happened at school. It wasn't even on the lips or some shit. I was so confused and still am to this day.

>>518538
Depends on what you mean by white and depends on what someone’s parents are like. I don’t know about Americans but in Europe there’s a lot of cultural differences as well as personal. Some people have jealous demon mothers, some have helicopter parents, some have nice affectionate parents just like anywhere else. My mom did the same and it’s considered normal where I am from, she still kisses my cheeks and forehead and I’m a grown adult. Maybe somewhere like Norway or Sweden it isn’t but I’m sure they have loads of different kinds there too.