/g/ - girl talk

>>543274
Schizophrenia probably

His entire gimmick is cringe and unfunny but ironicelm is so cute

This doesn't completely fit the thread theme but it makes me so upset that this breed of kinda cool but also lame slackery guy with nerdy interests almost completely died after the 90s and also kind of early 2000s… Genuinely makes me want to die, because I was too young to date these kinds of guys at the time and just stared at them from afar and watched crappy teen comedy movies about them. There are some guys my age that try to achieve this aesthetic, and I'm aware it might make me sound like a spoiled brat, but it just doesn't feel the same most of the time. It feels like such a disingenuous larp.
My older female friends told me that these types of guys used to tend to be total fuckboys though, and I won't lie, that's kind of a turn-off. Oh well, like most moids it's probably better as an unachievable fantasy anyway.

>>551014
You mean Scott Pilgrim-coded?

>>551014
You should read Phonogram

>>548236
I think >>548439 is right that she ore than likely wasn't saying that you don't have to listen to the music to be goth but just suggesting that they keep trying until they might find one that they like and can build from there. But I totally see what you mean with your other criticisms and it sounds like you've been watching Angela for a good while now which I have as well as I discovered her in 2017. I remember really being into her content because she came across as a positive example of an elder goth who was not afraid to lay the law down in a general sense without specifically targeting anyone directly like during the whole Snowy Lowther drama where Snowy was saying that you don't need to like goth music to be a goth. I also liked how she filmed herself without using face altering filters though I think that was because filters weren't as prominent back in the mid 2010s like they are now. I thought that she was a good example of not being ashamed for being older while still being in the goth scene and just being alternative in general but as soon as she hopped on TikTok, she started using the filters like life support and started using them in her YT videos and it was just a shame to see her go down that path when there was nothing wrong with her natural appearance and I do remember her saying that she didn't use filters when it was clear that she does so that was disheartening.

I do remember in I think her last Q&A where she admitted that she doesn't have as much energy to argue with and/or get in drama with people who misconstrue goth and instead, has a "choose your own battles" approach so that's probably why she doesn't really run defense as much as she used to. I don't necessarily mind her clothing hauls though I still prefer the thrifting ones more than the online brand stuff but at the very least when she does the later, she still makes them look tolerable with her added in accessories, I actually learned some styling tricks form them so I can't hate lol.

But yeah, her pandering to troons and the lack of physical facial representation does kill her vibe for me but I'd still rather watch her than It'sJustScammer (Freya). The only thing that may make me throw in the towel with Angela is if she does a video virtue signaling for troonery with a title lPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>542079
>Unfortunately that happened to many of the symphonic singers later on. If they started out operatic they became classical soprano when they signed up with a popular label. Tristania's older music was good but now they sound generic.
Right, I mean it's been awhile since I've dipped my toes in the symphonic metal genre but I do remember a lot of the bands started having female singers who would go for a safer classical soprano voice to the point where they all sounded too similar. I still remember when Nightwish did that when they got rid of Tarja for that other vocalist who didn't sing in an opera style and it just killed the vibe for me. And good point on Tristania, I loved Vibeke Stene's voice in those first few albums and was pretty disappointed in their later work when she left the band.

>I listened to them a little as a teen and didn't know they had broken up by then. The only reason I liked them was the ode to her cat because I thought my cat was cool too. I haven't heard of Scarling but I'll look it up. And yeah, that vid was kind of generic spooky pop.
That's fair lol I was like 13 when I discovered JOJ back in like 2005 so I was the right age for that angsty music. Scarling is pretty good and they have a maturer sound and they took a more shoegaze approach, definitely not bad stuff imo.

>It's a shame and I hope it doesn't last. I never signed up to be in a Black Mirror episode where everything including music and art is A.I. generated. Personally I think A I. music should be banned.
It's just insane that we're even at this point but I take solace in knowing that there will always be artists who will still want to create and not let A.I bully them out of their passions. I'm a painter myself and I refuse to give that up just because some computer program can generate an image in seconds, there's no soul or human passion involved and I think that will always prevail when it comes to things like art and music. And yeah, I'm also glad that She Past Away and Twin Tribes were able to figure out their sound all their own without using A.I tech. Thankfully though, I think most goths do prefer the organic stuff vs the A.I so the scene doesn't have to (hopefully) worry about getting overrun with A.I.

>>548439
>>548768
Maybe I misunderstood her point. It just sounded like she was condoning wearing the clothes without listening to the music. We're a music-based subculture so it's important for people to get that. Influencers have an advantage of reaching a wide audience and what they say has an effect on the subculture. I still like that she addressed Jake's bullshit and told people that he's not goth and doesn't have a say on our community. I hope the algorithm picks up her video because I'd hate to see his be promoted as the voice of everything goth.

>>550429
It's fine, I can understand why you had that hiccup. And right, it's nice that she did call out Jake because as much as I feel that no one who is seriously involved in the goth scene would ever take that edgelord seriously, he does have people outside the subculture who watch and would totally take his word seriously. My only annoyance when it comes to criticism of Jake not being goth is that it feels like they insinuate that his ex Toxic Tears is when she isn't neither. The only difference between her and Jake is that she wasn't as aggressive when expressing how much she doesn't really like goth music but she has been vocal in the past how much it's not her preference.

As someone who is single and trying to date here and there, a thing that I thought about that makes this "goth girl" trend you see on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube shorts of these women in black who blast #goth on their posts yet are not actually interested in the goth scene is that when they play music that is not goth and further give the impression that goth is just some fashion aesthetic.

I've casually dated a few guys who claimed that they were into goth women and when we talked music, I'd bring up bands like Twin Tribes, Christian Death, and Rosetta Stone and when they'd check it out, they'd not surprisingly be into and some have said that they didn't think that goth music sounded like "that" or that they just like the "goth aesthetic" and the sad part is that 2 of them were metalheads so you'd think they'd be a bit more understanding that goth is a music-based subculture.

It's just annoying how these attention whores in black have tainted the term goth just so they can get clicks and likes on their posts.

>>550110
…What are you on about KEK

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>>549529
>>549565
Ty! And love the pic inspo. Bottom right fits are really fun to me.

>>549574
ty nona, tumblr spreading misinfo as usual.

>>548263
I had pretty slow puberty, at first I just grew tall and become hairy. A lot of people mistake me for a boy which I liked. When I started to get bullied at school for liking girls I wished to be a boy so it would be okay, had hard time accepting myself as well. But when I got closer to adulthood and finally grew boobs I kinda liked it and experimented with more feminine clothing. However it didnt feel like me and I went back to my old style in couple of years. As a child I played with neigbourhood boys but tbh thought they were kinda retarded, all my actual friends were girls even though I felt different from them.

>>548263
I was 100% into playing with boy toys as a kid and had a big video game addiction into my early 20s. No real gender dysphoria because I considered girls/women things to be not for me for some reason. Didn’t start looking butch until my late 20s and that's when I started going to the gym and cut my hair. Bums me out when I hear about teen "butches" wanting to go on T to make their features more masculine when the they're to young and usually too overweight to have things like a sharp jawline defined cheekbones and muscles. All they'll gain is a pube stash accented by an unflattering haircut.

>>548286
>They’d fuck off as soon as they found out I was an autistic lesbo dork though lol
You sound cute, glad you got "over" it without trooning out. I feel like autism makes any puberty changes especially challenging
>>548292
>and just played with dress up dolls and stuff
Sidebar but I never understood the focus on dolls as a symbol of a child's gender conformity. Preferring dolls just points to having an interest for people. Girls skew in the direction of "people over things" but boys commonly play with them aswell, just as girls play with legos etc. On the flip side of this I hated sports and was the total opposite of what people think a tomboy is but i liked boy things a lot. tl;dr every single girl/woman has her own specific way of combining feminine and masculine traits and it's cool
>>549450
Breathable black t-shirts, tank tops and long cargo shorts (camo or black). Boring kek

come to the martyr tour

>>548004
>And what if I never feel this was again?
best way to stay in crap relationships is thinking like that

>>548575
Kek nona I saw that tickets go on sale today and I was thinking of going just for fun. I've only listened to that one album though. Any others that I should listen to?

>>548575
can we all go to the bladee tour together nonas? his music is so dark and doomerish now and it would fit with us freshly broken up sad nonas

Two weeks since I broke up with my boyfriend. I realize that I have no choice but to turn inward and become even more based and esoteric than I already was.

>>548737
I'll be there nona!

>>551728
I wonder if his dad is the type who went out of his way to provide a softer life for his kids than his own, but also gets frustrated over it too. Probably not at the daughters, but at his son kek Plus Weegie being a code monkey isn't as admirable as a doctor like Maria, or useful as business operations (& then stay at home mom) like Lucia.

>>551689
But why a cockroach story? Kekk tbh I'd expect her to tell him to play up the sad helpless puppy loverboy angle instead.

>>551736
That's what she probably told him to do, but Weegie decided to go rogue.

>>551736
This would be the smartest route. People have already been over-analyzing all the quotes he liked on Goodreads.

>>551736
He wants his BPDs to be comfortable saying "cock" kek

>>547180
I know it's taboo to say but I wish she'd have realized sooner that she just had a fetish

>>548659
What do you mean by that?

I'm biracial and more or less "accepted" by both sides.

I never tired hard to be accepted. Actually took a reverse approach and always stressed I'm only half. Which funny enough made them want to accept me more.

I've always tried to integrate my identities but it's kinda made me lonelier. cause now I don't relate to a lot of "mixed race struggles" of being othered and rejected.

I always wanted to be in a relationship with someone of the same mix as me, but I knew it would be the longest shot. I tried to ignore that desire, but as I get older those feelings get stronger. it doesn't help that people aren't supportive. why are mixed race people supposed to accept monoracial people, or accept basically always being in an interracial relationship?? if two whites, two blacks, two asians get together it's super normal, but if I want that it's a problem??

I’m from a very mixed country, in a region where most people are typically white.
For a long time I simply saw myself as white too, until I became too chronically online and had access to weird internet niches, then noticed I wasn’t white.
It was kind of shitty because I was also raised in a weird way. Never really participated in anything cultural related to my region, rarely had contact with the culture of the white side of the family (only in my greatmother’s birthday, easter and sometimes christmas), the nonwhite part was mainly “sterile” because of evangelicals just being insane and anti anything insertmycountryhere related.
I feel It’s meaningless to try to participate in these things now that I’m an adult, just a very elaborate LARP. Sometimes I like to try finding out if other people had similar experiences, but most of the time the discussions end quickly because of floods of “but isn’t cool to be this unique?” and similar talking points.

i love my nigel so much
>actual nerd, he's so fucking smart
>very passionate about his hobbies, he's taught himself how to draw only four years ago and is already objectively better than most artists who have been drawing since childhood (myself included)
>comes from a nice, very welcoming family
>grandma's boy
>neat and tidy, constantly helping me clean my messy room without ever complaining
>keeps up with politics and current world events, well versed in history
>doesn't buy into any retarded ideologies
>despite having a somewhat rough childhood, he's able to fully function as an adult and genuinely cant think of a time he was ever depressed
>was the quiet and cold friend of the group but melted whenever i was around
>has never insulted, gotten mad at or raised his voice at me. always willing to have awkward or tough conversations but it never feels like that because of his patience
>always opens doors for me
>generally stays away from alcohol and refuses to do any substances
>i'm his first girlfriend ever despite him constantly having girls trying to ask him out throughout highschool
>incredible work ethic and discipline, gets restless when he doesn't have a routine
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my nigel is very shy and scared of intimacy so i get to take the lead most of the time. he always eagerly reciprocates and gets more brave each time, it's very cute
unfortunately we're long distance which means we only get to meet once every 3-4 months so things are moving slow. very slow. so slow it's killing me

>>548681
submissive men are pretty cute. hang in there, nona !

wants me to cling on to him (which i love fuckkkk) sometimes he will say it but mostly he just hints it

takes off my makeup for me when i’m tired cause i ask him too
cleans up after himself

the rest i feel like is the bare minimum so not gonna brag abt it

women who smoke

I’m really into femdom, but I think naturally submissive, complacent moids are unattractive and pathetic. I think misogynist moids are kinda hot and I fantasize about pegging them often. I don’t even have to be super physically attracted to them, just the act of physically dominating a condescending, arrogant moid while he tries to verbally berate me is super sexy. I almost pegged a cute moid once, but his personality was so boring and mild that I didn’t follow through with it.

>>549750
I've got the reverse taste in submissive men, complacent and servile but simmering with evil energy

>>549760
I could see the appeal behind that. Do you have experience with those kinds of moids? Unfortunately, most of the submissive moids I’ve met irl also had mommy kinks and it turned me off from them.

A few weeks ago someone posted in the Fetishes You're Ashamed Of thread that she was ashamed for liking it when her bf came inside her. That's like the thing I'm least ashamed of. I got a hysterectomy a few years ago and greatly enjoy having my fiance finish inside me without worrying about getting pregnant without having to be on hormonal birth control. It feels great and it's a huge bonus in our relationship, so what's there to be ashamed of? It really shouldn't even be considered a fetish.

There are a few other things I feel like I should feel weird about but I don't really care. I like fucking while high. I like making him get me off with oral before I let him stick it in. I like catching our reflections in the mirror. I like when he has a finger up my ass while we're doing it in cowgirl or doggy position (I don't know why this feels so good, it just does). These things aren't too far outside the realm of vanilla though. I guess I'll save my more questionable desires for the other thread.