/g/ - girl talk

>>509820
I think a big problem lies in how heavy it's expected to be. If any heavy makeup wearers are considering nixing it but cant fathom where to start, the first thing you can do is stop wearing foundation. Use a tinted moisturizer or thin bb cream for a bit, then switch to only using a blurring primer/sunscreen. If it really bothers you to see your natural complexion in certain work environments, try to only use a really small, thin amount of bb cream on your red or ruddy areas. Eventually if you can become comfortable enough with seeing your real skin, just doing a really light mascara and eyeshadow with groomed eyebrows will be enough. You'll start to realize that heavy makeup actually looks silly in natural light, that you feel way more comfortable day to day, and that it doesn't matter if your complexion isn't caked in crap. I've also been told by a couple friends who do the really intensive makeup routines, that they have dreams that they're panicking and trying to put on makeup before they go somewhere or before they're seen by their peers. If that's any of you, maybe tapering could really be positive in your life.

>>575557
Tapering is pretty much what I did just by accident. I'm a lot happier now that I've done it. I grew up with all that drag queen beauty guru nonsense and would do a full face just to go to high school. At the time my self worth was at an all time low. I kept going with it until I had to get eye surgery in university so I couldn't wear eye makeup for 2 months. I still wore lighter face makeup and lipstick at the time but I realised I was saving myself an extra 40 minutes in the morning not having to do some creative look under the guise of "self expression" and that I felt perfectly myself without it. I liked being able to touch my eyes or cry if I needed to without having to worry about what my makeup looked like. Then when COVID happened I lost the lipstick and remaining face makeup due to working from home. In that time I got used to my natural face and I'm very confident in my own skin now.

This is bit of a tangent from just makeup but maybe other anons might relate. I was always considered a creative, artsy person by my peers and adults in my life growing up. It became a big part of my identity to "express myself" through my looks so people would think I was interesting or complex. I was always into fashion, including alternative fashion and I would use it as a crutch to "express myself" because I wasn't very confident. In the last few years I've done a lot of work on this and gotten more comfortable with expressing myself in other ways. I now express myself with my words and actions instead of fixating on my appearance. I do still like fashion, but I no longer feel like my identity or self worth is intrinsically tied to what I look like. I'm still the same person regardless of how I am dressed or what I have on my face.

As for makeup I admit I do still wear it from time to time, for example if I want to wear fun eyeshadow and lipstick to a concert. I still have some products left over and sometimes I get given it as gifts so I do use them. I feel guilty throwing away stuff that is still usable and I don't want to offload it to my younger female family members or other women in my life for obvious reasons. Main thing I guess is that I don't tie it to my personhood anymore, nor is it a daily ritual or something I feel I need to feel 'presentable'. I used to get so upset as a teenager if I had to go somewhere and didn't have the time to do aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I stopped wearing makeup years ago after my breakup, except for super special occasions. got into skincare. not only do people usually think im a teenager now but when I glam out, the ppl that normally see me are pretty impressed. best of both worlds imo lol. go for it!!!

>>575722
Ayrt and enjoyed reading your tangent. You can't make younger women understand it and they have to learn on their own eventually, but as time passes you start to understand that you don't need artifice under the guise of expression because you aren't required to express yourself to others at all. Its a freedom to realize you dont need to be percieved any certain way by anyon for your life to matter. There isn't anything wrong with makeup for the sole purpose of expression, but a lot of women who think that's how they use it are actually cripplingly insecure and have a really unhealthy relationship with themselves/their image. Makeup in itself doesn't have to be unhealthy, but it's often comorbid with low self esteem and vanity. You sound like you are much happier and use it for a casual intended purpose rather than it ruling you and how you perceive yourself. The older I became, the more I like seeing real people and skin, texture, etc. I now look at heavy makeup and can only think how much better the person looks without it–not in a catty way, just an observation I don't think my younger self could fathom.

>>575760
Ayrt and thank you. You are exactly right. If someone had tried to tell me these things when I was a teen I know I wouldn't have listened, but back then I was very young and surrounded by Tumblr liberal feminism. I'm not necessarily a radfem now, but as I approached my mid twenties I started questioning many libfem talking points, and the more my justification for "self expression" was starting to feel meaningless. I was already gradually wearing less makeup and getting used to my natural face like I said, but at some point it was like a spell broke over me. It caused me a bit of a quarter life crisis at the time kek
>It's a freedom to realize you dont need to be percieved any certain way by anyone for your life to matter.
Basically this. I realised how much I tied my physical appearance and how other people perceived it to my self worth and I didn't want to do that any more. I realised that one day if I am lucky enough, I will get old and won't fit the beauty standard anymore, but that doesn't make me less worthy, smart, skilled or complex. Then I realised that neither my youth or my appearance were what currently made me any of those things now. It was so freeing.
>I now look at heavy makeup and can only think how much better the person looks without it–not in a catty way, just an observation I don't think my younger self could fathom.
I do this too sometimes. Online or in extremely edited photographs is one thing, in person it is very jarring. When everybody does the same style of makeup they all look like they have the same mask plastered on top of their individual features which get lost. I think that maybe getting lost and conforming was what my younger self wanted, but I fell for the meme that it was self expression. I feel way more myself now than I did back then.

>>574931
I’m >>573988 and tbh I feel like anything in the realm of earth science got all the lesbians. Can’t go anywhere without bumping into another one. Ecology and biodiversity fields probably have a lot too because I think the idea of working outdoors a decent chunk of time just draws a lot of lesbians in.

>>574394
I was a librarian too and left because of wage and budget cuts. I was doing 3 jobs at once and only getting paid one wage. Awful awful field, wish I never got into it.

>>575137
Ayrt and I feel you. The field was already a mess before the IMLS cuts and now it feels impossible to ignore the writing on the wall. It's a shame because I am passionate about the missions of libraries and museums, but the reality of the job is more like retail than anything. I'm planning to try for more technical, data-driven fields, even though it would require upskilling. What did you end up switching to?

>>574198
>>574218
Thanks yall, I really appreciate it. I had a really rough day in the clinic and this made me feel a little bit better. Sometimes lurking on lolcow makes me wish I did psych instead of FM kek… And no, I don't lurk the ER or birth control threads. I simply don't have the time.

>>575602
> passionate about the missions of libraries and museums, but the reality of the job is more like retail than anything.
Same! I love the idea of free easily accessible educational content and that’s why I went into the field. When I first started, they put me on the reference desk which is exhausting. You get a bunch of students most of the time asking questions that could’ve been easily answered via Google. One time I accidentally did the entirety of a students assignment. Most students expect you to do the work for them when really you should only act as a guide and exemplar on how to seek information effectively. I was an academic librarian btw.
>I'm planning to try for more technical, data-driven fields, even though it would require upskilling. What did you end up switching to?
I’m eyeing User Design but that field seems to have been saturated since covid…

Can someone help me figure out what's wrong with me? When I'm in public settings and someone asks me questions I get really nervous to reply fast and I always reply either too much personal information or a lie and afterwards I wonder why I said that because I normally wouldn't lie or go into detail about my life. First I thought it was avoidant but it's almost like I want to give them a reply and my body just ejects words

>>575428
Social anxiety?

>>575374
Fart when they start talking together and isolating you.

So, my best friend told me today that basically a pedo who used to orbit her previous high school friend group, by chance met up with a friend of her's and hold her to tell her he's sorry for his shity behaviour in the past and now he's sworn off porn.

Context for the guy an my friend, he used to be weirdly close to her and told her (along with other people) that he was with a 15 yr and was cheating on her with other 12-13 yr. Confessed how he would jerk off to pictures of my friend while she was underage and many other people ingluding his aunt for some reason. Cut all contact with him after leaving friend group (she only later found out about the picture part).

My friend got a friend request today form an ig account where some proof of him being a pedo was posted. I talked to the acc, apparently it's run by some friends of a victim of his. Tried taking it to the police and they and the pedo's mom blamed the girl.
Tried following him and getting in a convo to get some confessions out of him but idk if I can take it. I'm not made for this shit man. But as fujed as it is, there might be milk potential.

Idk nonas, idk what to do with all this info. I talked to the proof account holder and told her/them I'll try talking around maybe try to reach out to some students in law or try to find some connections cause this scrote needs to be locked up. In prison or dead on the street but I'm not trying to catch a case.

My friend sort of nows here he lives. I've never in my life came across such a porn sick individual.

Wtf do I do?

>>574249
I don't want to date them because I'd have to lie to the police for their sake eventually and I don't think I'll ever be down for that.
>>574472
That's not biphobia, anon, that's the normal and rational reaction to most bisexual women.(bait)

I blame lolcow for giving me a menhera cutter fetish. I loathe this kind of moid irl and i used to think anons into this were deranged, but here i am. I just like the idea of pinning down a cute guy with fresh self-harm scard while he moans as he gets closer to cumming, wide-eyed and anxious about his performance. I'd tease him and play into his inferiority complex. He would ask me for retarded masochistic acts like helping him cut, spitting in his mouth and i would happily oblige. We'd spiral into a feedback loop where each of his insecurities (being abandoned, being compared to x and y, being treated like a dumb manwhore for his emotionality) would be eroticized and he'd start to enjoy them in a sick way. IRL self harm scars make me really sad and clingy masochistic men piss me off so i'm confused about why i even daydream about this. Maybe it's because a man like this would care so much about a woman's approval

I’m not even ovulating or anything right now I am literally on my period but I’m still so horny and having sex dreams about having raw sex all day and night long

>>575659
ah yes, the shameful fetish for…. having sex

>>575659
Seriously, anon. Just go to the sexual fantasies thread. Why are you posting this here unless you are ashamed of sex itself?

Nonnas my period cramps have been really debilitating. I thought they had finally calmed down when I had my first pain free period four months ago, but the pain came with vengeance. These last three months have been hellish each time, I literally cried from pain.
Does birth control really help? What kind have you been taking mommas? Thank you.

>>574186
I don't get cramps on the regular combination pill but instead my boobs are sore the entire time aside from stop week. Which is still better than cramps but sucks in it's own right.

https://www.europeanreview.org/article/4579

In short: the pill depletes your body of several vitamins and minerals, you might wanna supplement if you're on the pill. (I bet this is why depression is a common side effect of BC). Posting this here because more women need to know this.

>>574186
Do you exercise often? Eat healthily? I know this isn't a quick fix but it really helped me. If I eat sugary, greasy food before my periods and don't exercise I will suffer. Leg, hip and back stretches are a must and anything that promotes blood circulation especially in the lower body helps a lot. I often don't feel very hungry the night before my period come so I fast or eat very lightly else the bloating kills me.

>>574186
This is going to sound maybe a bit crazy but I had horrible debilitating cramps all my life and they all went away after a month of daily exercising using an ab wheel. I'm not even kidding, for the first time in my life I was surprised by my period. This keeps up even when I take break from the ab wheel. I can't recommend it enough

>>574924
Guys really ought to take better care of their asses… Sigh.

>>574919
I see a pee pee…

>>575412
That one's fantastic what are you talking about?

>>575533
Pretty sure she's lamenting over average civilian ass

>>575549
It's delicious but those bums could easily be Greek God level if he put the least amount of work into them. By that I do not mean they need be humongous, but…

>>572081
if you showed me this with no context and told me it was a still from a low-budget indie horror youtuber film student project i would 100% believe you.
>'in this scene the monster chases a 5-year-old around their living room with a rusty saw. when the parents hear their child's screaming and arrive at the moment of imminent peril, it turns back into a $5 'haunted' Cabbage Patch Kid we found at the Goodwill.'

>>571720
>>572081
>>571989
These long bloomers really need to stop! They all look like redarded toddlers or ageplayers. It's an undergarment and shouldn't be seen. Why can't they just get an undershirt to add length?

>>571720
She looks like she's about to come after you for misgendering

>>575141
She recently introduced herself in the Dutch comm as well kekk please leave…

As far as I have seen Rosiers Sauvages actually organizes quality meets i.e. tea tasting, theatre shows and an international event now if I'm correct.
Just seems this old lady is jealous of her because she has standards uh… Owning brand ≠ having styling skills

>>575290
>>575220
Post this crap in the lolita lolcow thread, most of us dont give a shit about the discount French comm drama

>>575220
The drama in question: wk in action

>>575290
Posting this then moving to Lolcow thread

>>575146
Nah, women just get jealous of each other, it's sad

>>573978
She’s probably just joking, it’s a reference to that dress meme

>>571776
People go to the American parks in lolita all the time what are you talking about.

>>573975
Ugh, I want that blouse so badly. She looks so elegant.

>>573575
>>572765
This but I’m a lesbian with a high libido. I feel fucking disgusting like my interactions with people is an offence to them. I’ve never heard it put into words before though, feeling like a neckbeard around women. Makes me feel better that I’m not the only one who feels like that.
>>573543
…I don’t think this helps?

>>573692
This is just a lesbophobia thing. Lesbians are either sex objects or idols of purity who have no autonomous sexual desire of their own. A woman with sexuality towards other women that is self-serving and not voyeuristic is treated like a predator by straight women.

>>573394
That's really common among autists (except I'm actually gay). I'm really sorry you're struggling with these reactions even now, anon. I went through an attempt at being hyper feminine for a similar reason, to help me feel like I could connect better with my peers but it didn't work. What worked was spending more time with the other weird/outcast girls. Most of them were straight but still were very similar, masculine/non-feminine and understood the way I communicate. Do you have a way to connect with more women like that?

>>573692
This is also me, super high libido throughout my entire teens and twenties. I also feel really scrotey, it feels like normie women can sense it on me and instinctively avoid me, and I have no "gaydar" for other lesbians so I've just accepted being a celibate individual.

>>572765
>>573575
Damn, I've felt this way my whole life and never knew how to explain it. Being in an all-girls primary and secondary school made it even worse. (Though I would still rather that than ever attending a co-ed school)

>>573957
Yes that's actually exactly what i did, i tried to connect with women similar to me and so far i have 3 friends which is great, it's still painful going grocery shopping and trying to blend in. I hear a lot about gay women in this thread feeling this way and if any of you are reading this, 2 of my friends are gay women who are the same as me, lesbian and bisexual women are based tbh and it's why society can't deal with any of you existing.

>>573549
We can be cartoon hobo henchwomen together, you're the small one ofc