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21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/635136
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
(currently deactivated as of 2/14/19)
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:> Jennifer Dean refuses to actually help her daughter and blames others for the whole situation > Colin from Slaves posted on here about his experiences with Jonny. His posts start at >>>/pt/637869> Apparently are planning to move to a new house> Implied she had an eating disorder> Cannot keep story straight on rehab, has stopped posting about it> Posted an Instagram story with needles visible in the background> Continues to make stories on Instagram where track marks can be seen on her arms > Several animals that have been MIA were posted on Instagram after being mentioned on here. This includes several snakes, Ella, Mushu, Star, and Kronos> Nemo has a UTI> Star is overweight> Mushu is not dead (somehow) but is kept on a crowded tank sitting above her dishwasher> Kronos is not dead (somehow) but is still incredibly untame.> Valentino (Sinaloan Milksnake) was allegedly returned to the breeder after regurgitating his food and developing a respiratory infection. > Still no results from Chesse’s autopsy> Most of her time is spent on Instagram going on possibly drug induced rambles, contradicting herself every other comment, and talking about how much she loves her animals and definitely does not neglect them
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Claims to be attending an outpatient rehab program, where they receive Vitriol injections> Jonny was kicked from the Slaves for incessant drug use http://archive.is/JO9vO> Taylor admitted to using heroin, this was corroborated by texts from Jonny http://archive.is/4GnJG http://archive.is/6sYGI> Accused former friend Breezexotics of sexual harassment http://archive.is/HiCCr> Has deleted Twitter once again> Friends have gone on damage control, trying to save their own reputations> Snakes are morbidly obese> Has returned from over a month long hiatus (for now)> Versatile Reptiles, Breezexotixs, and whatever (video anon) are verified with Tripcodes> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons> Admits to live feeding, and knocking rodents out with blunt force instead of a CO2 chamber (as recently as mid Nov, also leaving a live feeder alone with her snake for 20 mins, only checking on it once)> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths> Claiming that she's one of the few pettubers that is actually up front with the accident and the issues they have, despite trying to continuous hide the deaths of her mantis shrimp, lionfish, skinks, pacman frog etc for weeks-months after they happened> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes> Cheese died suddenly, conveniently when she released new merch featuring him, has been pushing her merch harder than usual> She has alluded to a ‘friend’ that has a cowfish twice the size of cheese that she may replace Cheese with (if she hasn’t already)> Gave Cheese a “viking funeral” then sent him for autopsy (put him on a boat during a monetized video)> Videos calling out her care have stated to take over searches for her> In combination with the call-out videos on YT, after she posted the video of Cheese’s “funeral” TND began to hemorrhage subscribers> Other pettubers began making (monetized) videos to defend TND and claiming that they were worried that “the bullying against Taylor” might ‘make her’ self harm> Other pettubers begin distancing themselves from TND> TND shuts off comments on the videos and instagram posts around cheese amid mass criticism > Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese> Recent Known Deaths: Orchid Mantis, Mantis Shrimp, Pacman Frog, Crocodile Skinks, Zazu, Cheese
Unconfirmed Milk:> Ursula (Halloween Crab) died of a mismolt, was possibly replaced with another female crab.> Electrical malfunction story was fabricated. Croc Skinks died of dehydration due to her not giving them enough water during a heatwave. Pacman frog died of malnutrition due to only being fed mice. > Gucci escaped from their enclosure and was missing for 2 months. Taylor bought Parada as a replacement. Gucci was found in Gus’ enclosure after eating him. Taylor claimed Gus died of old age. > Had a mite infestation, Bindi (Blue Tongue Skink) had it extremely badly> Mantis Shrimp died after only a few days instead of a few months as claimed> Leopard Gecko is kept in a dark tub > Valentino was not returned to the breeder and is dead> Her and Jonny were evicted> Is still using despite claiming to be clean
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
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All the milk from Thread #32 Edition 1
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This did not age well…
September 22nd >>>/snow/694360
I didn't comb through previous threads. I searched for "site:lolcow.farm taylor nicole heart tattoo"
Cheese and Egg tattoos July 17th >>>/snow/638910
Thanks for that info. It'll certainly make it easier for me to find out information for myself. I can't keep track of all Taylor's shit anymore. >>640579
A lot of them strike me as teenagers or younger, given their inability to use proper grammar and critical thinking skills. But given the state of education these days, I could be very, very wrong.
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$750 for a pair of shoes
Because when they split up he can take the shoes with him. Its in Taylor’s dime so why not try to buy everything he can?
Also, those Balenciaga shoes are terrible and the last season. Maybe cop come common projects, JC.
>Jonny continues to flex with new shoe purchases and hinted at starting a new band
It's not about the shoes themselves. Jonny considers himself to be a functional addict, and like most addicts who consider themselves "functional" he is blind to his dysfunction. As long as he is able to live his rock star lifestyle (buying overpriced kicks and starting a new band) the façade of denial remains unbroken.
He only went to CleanSlate to humor Taylor and her fans and as a "functional addict" clearly resents it.>>>/pt/631010
>I did the hard part and got crucified for it so I hope this is all worth it
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He's paying $760 for shoes whose condition is listed as "used, markings." I found the same pair for $770 brand new. What a dumbass.
No reason to get so upset with people anon pretty sure no one comes to lolcow for legal advice and if they do then that's their problem.
Pretty sure the mother just wants nothing to do with a person like jc. I mean the kids 10 now you really think she wouldn't have already considered the options for child support at this point? She's probably got her shit figured out by now.
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Lol wasn't he defending Tay's made up heat pad story before
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(ban evading to spam threads again, sad)
Because this person posts literally every story, every comment, everything Taylor and Jonny do. And it's getting excessive. >>640829
Is a mod able to actually talk to this person and tell them that not every story is milk? Sure, the song has the word "drugs" in it, but it's still not really milk.
It's okay to let the thread be a bit quiet while Taylor herself is being quiet. I know it's hard to get used to when the threads have been so busy, but she'll be active soon enough.>>640865
Inb4 "don't worry keep posting everything" anon appears again.
Yeah honestly I love how she pulled the “I’m going to take a break (kek) from YouTube, I think Instagram is my happy medium~”
And yet literally she can’t even stay active on Instagram. It’s just posting a few pictures a day of an animal. She’s unwilling to share multiple animals a day because it’s too much work for her. Now she can’t even handle posting ONE animal per day (when she owns 50??). Idk how she thinks she is going to be able to come back and handle YouTube when she’s literally doing nothing but binging drugs all day.
I know it’s kist speculating since she’s not being active but she was so set on showing up every day she was at the clinic. Now that’s disappeared completely. I think she definitely stopped going and is just on a binge again. This is pathetic on her end, it really is. But she’ll conveniently come back with “ohh, I just needed to stay off of social media for muh health so I’m still getting better!!” When it’s clear she isn’t.
Again, she will never be seriously committed to bettering herself with her rapist boyfriend Jonny around. Period.
This is what I don't get. It takes a whole minute to snap a picture of an animal. She could get pictures of all of them in an hour or two, and then upload them quickly. What's so hard about posting a picture of an animal without manhandling them?
Is she THAT lazy that she can't be assed to take a picture of a pet that lives in a tank/cage maybe 20 to 50 feet from her bed?
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video isn't needed, it's just the movie in the background
we've seen how great jonny's gone with this guy before, it doesn't bode well.
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She literally said she tries to post every day, but it's been close to 2 weeks since her last post
Is that guy even legit or he's the new dealer? Another person for Taylor to spend on. >>640982
Makes it worse if all her "friends" use her for views and money. I wonder if they still talk to her? Probably not that much anymore cuz they won't gain anything anymore from her but drug drama
Definitely the start of another drug bender. It's not a hard thing to post one picture of your many animals a day…>>641011
Like talking to that guy was such
a great help before. It obviously did nothing.
Not like I expect someone like Jonny Craig to be able to recover without being actual inpatient.
No pretty sure she didn't, not really that surprising. Elijah was dumb to broadcast that all over social media as if it was really gonna happen.
It's honestly kind of eerie how she just went silent all of a sudden but jonny is still posting to his story and stuff. Also wonder if she's gonna reactivate her twitter doesn't it get permanently deleted after 30 days? It's been what 3 weeks since she deactivated?
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Some prehistoric milk here but it's nice to know Jonny literally hasn't changed in over a decade. He posted the girl's nudes after these tweets and called her a slut on stage he'd be reamed for that these days.
she said he passed away from old age because he was already a certain number of years old when she got him.
theres a screenshot about it back in thread #21 idk how to link it, its post 596484
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Its definitely for the best that she didn't go, unless she went quiet to plan the trip.
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It was complete bullshit too cuz if she knew it was migraine season she wouldn't plan anything. She just likes to bait her stans so they stay long enough to give her money while she binges out.
Stans: omg I miss you we need another vid!
Taylor: I will! I will on [insert date] just wait! continues to do nothing
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her twitter literally looks like a tween girls whose first bf broke up with her
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she just blocked my main and went on private. anyone know if she's going on a sperg right now about "the haters"?
This just screams passive-agressiveness. Who is he talking to? One of his now ex-band mates?
lol honestly often times the people who have to express how they are doing amazing and are so happy, then following it up with drama are the people that are the least happy with their lives. Sounds like he’s trying to shove in someone’s face how much better he’s doing than them.
He really can’t spend any lengthy amount of time without trying to flex his life and how great it is. When looking at it, it just looks really sad…
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>>641553>Pet care is so subjective
I mean, it's not. There is a minimum standard of care you need to follow or your animal will die, there is no two ways about that. If it were subjective you could argue you can keep fish in tanks with no water or animals that need UV without it. Just because people have different minimum standards doesn't mean the topic is subjective, there's an objective minimum standard that if not followed results in deformed or dead animals. Subjective does not mean people have different opinions on it, and always remember that people's opinions can be wrong.
>Tank tub or in between no matter what she is going to get bashed if she shows her enclosures.
She's deservedly gets bashed because she has no fucking excuse. She's rich and has no job or other commitments. There is no barrier to her having top tier care, neither time or money are an issue for her. Her animals should be living in paradises, not empty tanks with no water, inappropriate diets, inappropriate substrate and no enrichment.
There's a difference between people being nitpickers who need to put down other people's petcare when they're doing their best and deserved outrage at someone who has no excuse not even managing the bare minimum standard.>>641557
I do KIND OF see what this person means though. There's a huge battle between ball python owners regarding tubs vs proper PVC enclosures. Some people think small tubs are better than a 4x2x2 PVC enclosure. Clearly Taylor goes with the tubs because "ball pythons get scared in big spaces!!!!" So yeah, for a lot of species you can find a "bare minimum" and a "proper minimum". Taylor normally goes with the bare minimum, which is normally not enough. I hope this makes sense but it's pretty much why Taylor sometimes
isn't lying when she says that the enclosure size she's using is "what her research said is okay"
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He's trying to humanize himself so people will be fooled into feeling bad for him.>>641600
Passed out with one needle in her arm and the other in her lip.
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Sorry I missed that section >>641685
Dont want to start round 2 but it is true. High protien diet is everything when it comes to urinary problems along with stressful environment and you know the water bowls are empty. Last I heard she feeds dry fromm which isn't great even though it pretends to be. Should be getting canned 2x a day and an actually good quality dry food like Go!(derailing)
She was in jonny's story two days ago when he went to the movies with some dude and taylor (see >>640987
), so I doubt she's in any type of inpatient unfortunately.
I agree, I think she just refuses to admit to anything else going wrong right now. She knows any issues happening with the animals now will rightfully be blamed on the heroin addiction.
Also, it doesn't really look or sound like they're moving? No mention of anything like that in any of their recent stories it seems like. Still posting pics in the same dirty bedding with the game controllers still out. No whining about moving all the animals. Looks like business as usual from the little bits we have seen recently.
I am aware that's a cap of his Instagram, that's why I asked if the person who first posted the picture here had created it, or if Jonny could have found it elsewhere online and taken it from there>>641808
This. I think she's MIA because she doesn't want to have to lie about being/getting clean. Better not to say anything about recovery when it's all a lie, better to be quiet and just do your heroin and feel less guilty about shooting up since you're not pretending
to be sober on the internet. Plus easier to be inactive and silent rather than coming up with excuses about why you haven't stuck to your own schedule for returning to YouTube.
>>641812>easier to be inactive and silent rather than coming up with excuses about why you haven't stuck to your own schedule for returning to YouTube.
You hit the nail on the head. She promised to be back to filming mid-February, but it’s been radio silence since the 4th. She knows she can’t keep her promise.
Either that or she is only talking to that creepy group chat she keeps with her underaged fans.
I let anons know that her account is open so that they could look at it for themselves and not keep asking about it or capping it.
I archived it for maximum annoyance of Jennifer since people who don't read this thread will be able to find it. So archive it every time she spergs out!
There have been videos where she got brand deals that she's banged out in under a day. All she would have to do is film her "daily" routine of checking on/feeding/watering her animals, with a little added info about each animal. Then throw in some jump cuts and a quick intro/outro. It would be maybe 3-4 hours of work excluding what she should
be doing to take care of her animals.
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This might be a dumb question, but does taylor's archived insta work for anybody else? It just looks like this for me.
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Not all of them
Her 'Anniversary' post is gone, but other than that, he's still everywhere else.
She might have deleted that one because of the comments.
I agree; I think it’s weird that Nemo is going through these issues and only Jonny is speaking about them. “I
took Nemo to the vet” just came off as bad that Taylor didn’t even go. She knows that saying anything makes her look bad because she works up her pet care as so perfect. “Nemo is LITERALLY my best friend ever guise!!” but says nothing about his UTI and vet visits. Makes her look worse that she won’t say anything, imo.
Since she was at the movies with Jonny last week it’s clear she’s not doing inpatient rehab. The only other acceptable excuse I could see for her absence again is that she’s moving. But I’m pretty sure Jonny would be bitching about that too so I’m skeptical that they’re already in the process of moving. I’m guessing this is going to be a typical “I needed a break for muh mental health” kind of thing. Which we all know is a BS lie. She’s probably on another binge like she was over the holidays.
If she wants this thread to truly die she should get a new, non-internet job and take herself out of public eye altogether. at this point that's the only way it would happen (unless she completely fixed all of her sub-standard care and ditched Jonny and actually got clean and took responsibility for her fuck ups. basically stop being a cow. I doubt that will ever happen though)
if she did leave the internet I would just be so concerned for her animals. I feel like a lot of the times she's fixed her mistakes have come from people calling her out (with the monitor, for example.) Without rightful criticism her animals' quality of life would plummet.
Taylor has become so lazy and reliant on her numerous excuses to get out of working. I doubt she'd be able to hold a real job now. Who wants am employee that calls in sick because it's "migraine season" or is just a complete no-show because she's off shooting up somewhere? Pretty sure when Tay runs out of money, she'll just move back in with her parents.
Which would be for the best, it would force her to downsize her animals and maybe, just MAYBE she can focus on an actual education. She was interested in marine biology and if she got her shit together, she could go study and make something of her life. No idea why she thinks living in a small apartment, hoarding animals, shooting heroin and banging a rapist is somehow a good life.
I agree. She doesn't deserve income for being a pet tuber for the way she takes care of her animals, and putting them in that situation. Once she runs out of money (and drug money) she will have no option but to rehome them.
She won't be able to hold a real job. And won't make enough money with one, either. She has no experience or education. She fucked herself over.
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Yeah but the other days the total gains have been positive still.
I was wondering if anyone knew why she gained 10000 followers on IG on the 15th, I thought Instagram was just getting rid of bot accounts?
Also, I like that she's clearly still on Instagram, she deleted something on the 11th and unfollowed and followed someone on the 16-17. I thought her taking a break meant actually staying off of social media but I guess it just means staying away from her critics.
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Problem is a lot of people aren’t really asking about you Taylor. They’re concerned about YOUR ANIMALS. “They’re all safe” yeah I dunno the last few times we’ve been told that, a week later it comes out a few more died in some freak accident you made up. So sorry if you’re not exactly a believable person…
She’s lied so much that I really can’t take her seriously. Again, if she’s still with Jonny, she’s not being serious about turning her life around. I don’t doubt her animals are still suffering neglect but I just hope none of them have passed away again from it. She’s hardcore avoiding the criticism
I was stalking her comments earlier, a majority of her recent comments (on posts that even allowed them) were concerned fans asking where she was and if she was alright. Young fans, mind you, but way to turn it into a weird kind of guilt trip TayTay.
The funny thing is, there are no debates and no negative comments from what I can see - or at least very few. Is she making it up for pity from the same fans she's getting at? Hell, she's admitted before she has her comments restricted to prevent them from being overly negative or critical with filters, so she's just contradicting herself with her attempts to get pity.
"I gotta focus on me," she says, but she's also got to log into Instagram to push a bit more of her victim
narrative into the mix.
I tried to have a shred of sympathy for her, being trapped in a relationship with a manchild and all, but the fact she can so blatantly turn even innocent comments from concerned fans into a pity party for herself is beyond me.
A part of me hopes that perhaps the world takes mercy on the animals that are suffering most - Mushu for example - because she's making no attempts to change and nobody is helping to sort their care out.
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Time away from social media should be good for her if she is actually working on her recovery, and hopefully she'll spend more time caring for her animals. She has such a defeatist attitude though just say you're taking a hiatus cause social media is a distraction to your recovery. She's always gotta make herself the victim
, god she needs to learn how to take accountability and be responsible instead of typing out these long ass paragraphs about how everyone is so mean to her when as anon said >>642714
most of the comments she's gotten lately have been positive and wishing for her recovery.
"My social media is a platform I like to share my love of animals on"
The love you enjoy sharing so much you say you could post so many more images before going silent for weeks at a time? The love that involves you neglecting your animals to death, coming up with excuses to avoid showing them off, the love that makes you hold them in risky and sometimes painful positions to look cute?
"It's hard watching people debate on your mental state"
Your addiction to drugs and your laziness isn't debating your mental health. The comments on it are your fans saying to get well etc. - nobody can debate because you have limited your comments so severely. Unless you're looking here there is no debate, TayTay, you've silenced a vast majority of your audience.
"My animals are in safe hands."
I sincerely hope that means they aren't in her hands. If she's recovering from an addiction she's incapable of caring for fifty animals. At the same time shoving the care onto the likes of Betsy doesn't equal good hands. Either they're with her or someone unqualified to care for them.
You can see she clearly got the perpetual victim
mentality from her mother, change a few words and Jen could easily have written the same thing.
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>>642710>All animals are still safe
I won't believe it until I see it. You've lied about an animal's condition for months in the past, you've lost credibility. Post an "all my animals" video with CURRENT footage and I'll believe it, until then, I'll assume at least a few are dead/dying.
Also, no mention of Nemo having a UTI. your animals are not all safe. He had to be catheterised after not peeing for 2 days. That's not normal.
I don't know much about inpatient treatment but I'd assume it would leave her unable to post the rant she just did.
I think even if she had, she'd have been bragging everywhere about how expensive it was and how dedicated she was to getting better. (Or how those treating her say she's the healthiest heroin addict they've seen, there's nothing wrong with her etc. etc.)
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the only thing i could think she's referring to here would be tyler's stream….aren't you a few weeks late to that, miss?
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I remember Jen in the chat pretty much breathing down everyone's necks during Tyler's Live stream.
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Here's something depressing. Not only are kids/tweens watching & being influenced by her, but parents with small children as well.
Wait a minute… doesn’t Taylor have filters on her comments? And don’t you have to be a follower in order to comment?
While it’s possible to navigate around her comment filters/bans, I can’t foresee a whole lot of people successfully speculating on behalf of her absence without their comment being muted.
My personal speculation is she visited lol and read through some pages. Because she’s got to be bored right!!! And she knows she’s on the radar!!
$100 says her instagram message was meant to us lol goers.
Which really isn’t a huge deal at all, and nothing super groundbreaking… but I’ve been thinking about it.
I thought that was obvious.
"Debate on your mental state" = farmers discussing how she's definitely not sober. She can't actually use the words "heroin addiction" because a lot of her teenage fans don't know about it, so she uses this weird passive aggressive code. which makes it seem nebulous, but it's clearly about lolcow "tearing her apart" like girl we wouldn't have "fun gossip to tear apart online" if you were actually responsible, owned up to your multitudes of mistakes (and I DON'T mean by shifting the blame to breeders/commenters/"accidents") and committed to improving your and your animals' lives. it's because you refuse to do any of this that we still talk about how whack you are. always the victim
, never in the wrong, that's Taylor ~queen of pettube~, who hasn't put out a video in almost a quarter of a year.
step one is booting out the rapist with liver failure. step two is rehoming the animals you can't care for. that's how to start improving the lives of yourself, and your animals.
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Old milk from pettube thread but I just got caught up and was wondering if Emma's ackie was with TnD and Jonny when it died? I know Tyler and Maddie are more likely but wasnt emma visiting TnD in December? But maybe I'm just tinfoiling…
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I really feel like this is all him manipulating Taylor to make sure she doesn’t leave. It comes out that she’s going to stay with Elijah, and suddenly Taylor goes radio silent. Then, that road to rehab guy flies out to see JC and Taylor. Almost like he was saying “see babe? You don’t have to go, I’ll being the recovery expert to you.” And now he’s going on about how well he’s doing. Idk what the actual truth is but I’d bet Taylor is stuck and miserable.
Tbh if she’s miserable with him that’s on her at this point. She’s had so much time and advice on how to get out safely and yet she’s still with him. I think she is addicted to the constant asspats and attention and validation he gives her. Getting it from her fans isn’t enough because that means she has to go through the criticism also to read the comments. Whereas she can go radio silent and avoid the criticism and Jonny will still enable her. She’s grown dependent on him.
There’s so many ways she could get out and make sure her animals as well as herself are safe. So many people would support her getting him out of her life. She wants this lifestyle.
I feel like this whole “getting better” thing is just being faked; they’re hoping the speculation and criticism will just die down. Last few times she went radio silent so suddenly, she was giving promises of getting her “health better”, but in reality she was on a major drug binge with her animals dying. Given that, I don’t think I can believe anything either of them say
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I guess he’s starting a new band he can get kicked out of.
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It's really not that milky, I don't think it's worth posting it all here. I grabbed the milkiest shots though. Just Colin saying "you don't know what really happened" without offering any information about "what really happened". so, the usual. I'll add one more below this, but other than that it's not worth clogging up the thread.
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samefag, deleted last image because it really wasn't milky. just more of Colin saying he's done standing by Jonny when he's chosen drugs over the band so many times.
instead here is Chelsea's mother offering a little bit milkier/rarer information.
It's too bad Mama Dean already shut her out too.
Makes me wonder if she'll start reaching out to these people again when it's over between Tay & Jonny?
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i don't think that pic is current, unless jonny is having #4 flown in from someplace else. san antonio is a bth town, it wouldn't cook up that pale. he could be getting it off a silk road type site, i guess, but why go to the trouble of waiting when you don't have to?
unless i'm reading this wrong, and the point of the first picture is to compare the safety cap on the sharp, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense as all sharps are tipped with orange? either way this feels alittle weird.
thanks for clarification, anon. makes a little more sense now.
could we ask for a favor in thread that photos be posted with the correct info, if known? it would help reduce confusion on what some of the stuff we're looking at actually is.
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I swear Jonny posts things like this to piss Taylor off in a passive aggressive way. We’ve been speculating if they lied about moving, and if maybe that’s one of her excuses for her radio silence. Then Jonny comes and says they don’t even have a house yet, they’re still looking. She knows she can’t do anything about it because by the time he posts this stuff it’s too late. They must be miserable all the time, with all the passive aggressive stuff Jonny shows.
I really don't think they're buying. I think they're looking for another place to rent.
This is just speculation on my part though.
Plus, heroin only stays in your piss a few days. At the clinics, it's tooo easy to sub your pee with someone else's.. And the reality is, these places are harm reduction. You can still use while going without getting kicked out or meds denied.
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lmfao at this sticker, can he make it any more obvious he's hiding needles and shit?
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She said they were moving in the next 60 days, on February 1. It's the 28th of February now.
"Time is almost up" clearly means something different to you than it does to me.
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if the timestamps on jonny’s story are correct then they’ve been in bed for 15 hours.
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sticker story for all you blocked anons
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They “are” finally learning? Not learned? So I’m guessing they may have been fighting or being territorial ever since star came into the picture… you can’t just throw an unfamiliar cat into the house and expect everyone to get along magically. Every cat is different. I don’t understand why they couldn’t just be responsible pet owners…
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Imagine exploiting your daughter's shitty situation for views on a vlog. What a pathetic excuse for a mother.
so fucked that she uses her own daughter as a buzzword for her vlog. Especially when said daughter is taking a break from social media rn
I skimmed through the video the only time she mentions her is to this couple that was holding a snake and she says her daughter has 15 snakes and lots of other animals and she's on YouTube the couple asks who she is she says tnd and say they've heard of her blah blah just mundane converstion then one of the staff says she remembers Jen taylor and tanner to which Jen also adds that Jonny was with them that's literally it. At the end there's a message that says hi taylor I love you written in the sand.
Can't believe I just watched a 25 minute vlog of a petting zoo.
>Starts with Jen and Tanner looking at kangaroos/alpacas/rabbits/lemurs/etc in some weird token-based petting zoo, and Jen speaking to all the animals in a weird baby voice. this continues through the whole video.>Jen speaks to Tanner about the animals, and speaks to other adults about her son as if he isn't even there/can't understand>brags to people holding snakes that "my daughter has 15 snakes and she's only 21, she has lots of animals and is ~youtube famous~">Keepers ask if it's Taylor, and then get excited that they've met her mom. Say they should get them in with the lemurs (for free it seems, just because of her daughter.) Jen laughs a lot and says she has visited before with Taylor and "her boyfriend".
This one sentence is the only mention of Jonny in the whole video.>Tanner wants to name the rabbits "one Taylor and the other Dean." Jen finds this hilarious>Taylor doesn't know that octopuses like to hide, said when she was there "there's no way an octopus could be in there" even though they're masters at hiding because they're incredibly solitary/anxious animals>Jen continues talking to keepers as if Tanner can't understand her talking about him>long, uncut segment of Tanner feeding rays>shows an actually-grown cowfish that's at least three times Cheese's size>Tanner is good with all the animals, asks to make sure it's okay for the parrots to be eating the food he was given, says it's weird to have birds on him but seems to enjoy everything>Jen ignores Tanner and keeper talking, films birds climbing on her shoes>makes a dumbass joke about "reindeers are better than people", gets no laughs, has to explain it's from Frozen>feeds alpacas, tells them they're adorable, ignores keepers talking to Tanner again>"If you need someone to feed animals, just call us, he will do the rounds"
(why not go take care of your daughter's neglected animals instead?)>Talks to keepers about The Little Rascals, talks about Tanner like he's not there while he feeds alpacas>feed kangaroos from bottles>"thanks for watching, please like, comment subscribe, come back for our Florida videos" with weird Sims-ish music over it>last shot is "HI TAYLOR" written in sand at the beach
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doublepost but the video description is weird as fuck and almost incomprehensible. "The sacrifice these animals are making" is just like ???? they did not decide to be there, they're kept in (for some of them, too) small enclosures to entertain whoever pays to see them.
It's already been over a month, she deactivated it on January 24th. >>630059
however she had had it deactivated for well over a month when she was gone from December to January, and she still got it back, so I guess she contacted support and asked them to reinstate it. Hypothetically she could do that again, not sure if it would work this time.
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Apologies if I’m wrong, but in Jonny’s story did he just pan over from the TV to the Switch, with Taylor naked right behind it? If so god he’s such trash. It doesn’t matter that nothing was revealed, it’s still weird and trashy and possessive to me.
Sorry for the awful picture, he was moving fast and I don’t know how to post a recording of stories on here.
Theyre probably so high right now cuz i’m pretty sure they love playing games while on drugs.
She’s in her underwear Anon but I feel like Jonny is the type to make her walk around naked as if hes in American Gangster
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she looks so bad, i thought that was a guy at first jfc
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Either detox has been rough, she is sick, or something else. Doesn't even look like her… Makes me wonder if it's really her?
Hmm, this really confirms for me that they're not buying a house but renting it, if they're sticking to the 60-day move out timeline.
I've never purchased a house myself, but doesn't it usually take a long time to finalize the papers, and isn't there usually a 30-day gap between finalizing the contract and actually taking possession (at least on homes that were previously owned)?
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Including a bird.
As she once mentioned she'd get a bird once she finally got a house.
She looks like a junkie here, not like someone who detoxed a month ago and is now sober like she claims.>>644102
Chelsea said on Feb 2 that they're not just "house hunting" but dealing with an eviction. This is the first we've heard of them actually
looking at houses (Jonny is not the type to hide anything he could possibly construe as a "flex") and someone said they will have 60 days to get out of their apartment. So they wasted the first 30 days not doing any looking for a new place. Somehow this just adds to the story that Taylor freaked out after everyone found out she's addicted to heroin, secluded herself, and went on another month-long bender to "cope". Now that time is getting tight they're finally venturing out of their hoard house/drug den to find a new place to ruin.
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I can’t believe he’s posting the name of a housing community that they might move into, lol. He’s gotta do this stuff on purpose
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Taylor's posted this to her story (as well as the exterior of the house, will she never learn?)
The feature in the photo is unique, and the house it belongs to is for rent.
Nvm this is the house: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2-Amber-Gln-San-Antonio-TX-78257/26476078_zpid/?fullpage=true
$4k a month. Why would you pay that? If she has that money surely it makes so much more sense to buy a house.
It's her and Jonny flexing… well Jonny flexing.
I'm betting rn she doesn't move in to any of those houses because she can not afford them.
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>>644138>> "It's $1000 over the budget I set for myself tho,…"
…But you just had
to have that super-cool & super-rare CHIMERA ball python back in August, remember?
HOA's won't interview you unless they're some kind of nightmare subdivision trying to control every aspect of the neighborhood. Most HOA's don't care about the people personally only that they pay whatever is owed. Unless the people living there are doing something that is disruptive to the neighboorhood they won't care, but what's considered disruptive can vary of course.
I have to wonder though if whoever is reviewing her application would google her since she would probably list she is a YouTuber on the application. A quick google search of her brings up all the drama stuff and a search of jc isn't very flattering either.
I'm pretty sure they just went there to try and flex on everyone. Wouldn't be surprised if this is all Jonnys idea and them wanting that rockstar life.
Living in California, i would have to say is that these houses are CHEAP AS F*CK so i don't know why Jonny is flexing so hard when their budget is $3000 on RENT and NOT a owned house. so much for "looking for a house!"…much like.."looking for a place to rent out"
she applied for it even though she has exotic pets and >>644119
. great use of your time Taylor.
Even if they can supposedly afford these homes and somehow got in even with the 50+ animals… I don’t understand what the fuck the point is of having all that space for just the two of them. Yeah it must be great to live in a lavish home (I do love the modern style) but she can’t even keep up with the tiny apartment she has now. She has to have her friend with a toddler come over and clean FOR her. Imagine how much they would trash this place?? She’d have to have several personal maids just to make it look decent lmao. So much for their “budget”
This all seems just to flex. I love how Jonny was literally talking about buying million dollar houses. And here they are looking at places that rent for like 50 grand a year. What a waste of money down the drain when with that kind of money, they could easily own a smaller and still really nice place.>>644160
I agree anon, as another CA anon I think it’s stupid that he has to flex about houses that are actually quite cheap. In California these WOULD be multi-million dollar houses. But here he is bragging about paying $4k a month to live in something that isn’t theirs.
Taylor, when her bird with a lifespan of 95 years dies after one month: "he lived so long and lived his life to the fullest, I guess this is just his time, some animals have short lifespans, nothing I could have done!"
Really though we should stop speculating about her getting a bird, I feel like she'll decide to do it just to try to "prove the haters wrong." She shouldn't have any of the animals she does have, let alone an entirely new kind of pet.
This. An eviction will screw any chance of renting with an HOA.
If pets other than cats and dogs are not specified in the rental agreement, then she can have however many of whatever she wants. There is no local or state ordinance regarding the animals she has (I posted all of the animal-related statutes and ordinances in a previous thread).
If she owes back taxes, unless the IRS and/or Texas Board of Taxation has filed a lien, her debt will not appear on her credit report. Liens are public record, however.
She went threw hell at that apartment. With ACS and stuff. Wouldnt it make sense that she would want to move? Also Im sure if someone dug back they could find out when she moved in. Most leases are either 6 months or a year.Just for curiosities sake.
They'd be moving with more urgency if it was an eviction. Ive seen several neighbors get the 60 day notice. And most leave before the last day…because the sheriff locks you out of the house and jacks your shit on the last day.
Perhaps they renewed, decided to move before the lease was up because "new sober life, new house, new healthy life" bullshit they've kinda been shitting out, and they've promised a person to sublease at a specific date.
They probably thought that it was as easy to rent a house as it is to rent an apartment. At their price range I'd imagine there's probably a hefty amount of paperwork and shit to go through to finalize the rental agreement compared to the apartment they're currently at.
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Since when did she get another tarantula?As far as I remember she only had Cersei. Jonny answered this to someone on his newest insta post
They're both 5'5. I think it's funny they drew the manlet as taller than her. Also no Nemo? weird they included Star but not the cat Taylor is ~sooo bonded with~ to the point she can't tell people he had to be hospitalized for a UTI and inability to urinate
They got Jonny's ugly-ass shoes right though
She does have a scorpion, or at least she did.
I thought that he might have confused them as well though lol.
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There is at least one Instagram post about Loki, I grabbed this today. She has another posted of him under a black light.
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that fucking family
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I wonder if he's referring to baby rats or how many animals are still alive.
She can post crap like this to her story but can't take pictures of some animals? The same animals she's "so passionate about" and "wants to share with the world!" >>644691
It was so weird how she went from posting her rats pretty frequently (on both her story and posts) to not showing them even a little when she was active few weeks ago.
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The “27 more” comes up under the tarantula comment. He says only 3 under the rat question. Post properly to avoid unnecessary speculation…
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i felt.. inspired :)
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He's referring to 'Scene Daddy'
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Does Instagram notify you when someone screenshots your story? I just did without thinking. But Nemo's arm is still shaved like he's had an IV in, but didn't he get it taken out like two weeks ago? Shouldn't the hair have grown back a bit more by now?
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Looks like some people are re-uploading Taylor's videos on Youtube…
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Was I blocked or is his Instagram deactivated?
can't you just log out and check this for yourself?>>645183
report it so they can
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It never ceases to amaze me how she can’t even keep up with her tiny, disgusting apartment but she thinks she’ll be able to handle upkeep on a two story with a huge backyard and pool lmao. Unless she decides to really put in money into house/yard keepers (we all know she wouldn’t do it herself), wherever she moves into is going to be just trashed within months…
They can't handle a pool. It's a lot of work. It'll be green in a month unless Betsy's going to break her back taking care of it.>>645262
I'd take one look at at their junkie selves and reject their application on the spot.
why would she look at any properties with a pool for fucks sake?
50 animals is already really bad but pools in backyards are even worse, you NEED to hire someone who can come check the filters/clean/etc and check it weekly while caring for it yourself
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Cute house hunting outfit lol
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Sure. You’re not a clean junkie Jonny….you should be the poster leprechaun for a reason NOT to do drugs!
Also why it was so appalling that she got bottle kittens, who are sensitive and need a LOT of special attention. Surprise surprise, she lost one. Idk how Nemo survived her mediocre care. >>645431
I thought the same thing. Most houses have a yard though, and we all agree she should be in a house with the number of animals she has.
she didn't even "lose" one. she killed
one out of neglect. making her "work for her food" by forcing her to chase after the bottle to eat, keeping them both on hot water bottles rather than heating pads which are much more reliable heat sources, and probably failing to stimulate her to go to the bathroom until it was too late. but guise! her vet said Taylor's amazing and all her animals were doing amazing, including the kitten even though she was refusing to eat! the vet said she was still totally fine even after 4 hours of her not eating, when not eating every two hours is already too long!
SHE DID HER BEST! THE VET SAID THEY WERE HEALTHY.
I work in a rescue in the ward where cats first go when they come in. Countless bottle kittens that have everything they needed, vet checked and weighed every single day and are often given to nursing Queens so they are given the best chance.
Taylor didn't do shit for those kittens.
To be fair dogs do require more attention and training than a cat, so in a way cats are more chill because they don't need you to be looking after them all the time like a puppy.
This is not to say that cats are easy pets. No pet is easy or cheap to take proper care of, and it is true that a kitten died in Taylor's care, plus if I remember correctly, the vet records for the kittens were posted in past threads and they were less than stellar.
Your individual cat isn't every cat. Cats that go outside TEND TO live shorter lives. Not to mention the extra health risks associated with outdoor living and the damage outdoor cats do to indigenous wildlife populations.
Of courses if you're taking your cat outside on a leash or in a catio, it's a bit different.
OMG the the amount of crazy cat ladies in this thread. Good luck out there incels.
IMO reptiles are about equally as easy as a cat. And I very easily have kept both for years.
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Why would you post something like this on your Instagram as a recovering addict? Seriously dude, every time everything seems to chill down something like this happens. This is why people doubt you're in recovery.
Yep. Exactly, they haven’t stopped using and are not trying to recover anymore. At this point Taylor just wants everything to be swept under the rug as usual. I’m sure she will continue to use with Jonny but will be more careful about what she does to avoid the blowouts on social media she kept causing. However, they’re inevitable when she keeps neglecting and killing her animals, then lying about it. Jonny is an idiot for constantly posting shit like that. Like wow it must be really funny being a drug abuser
. It’s a month past when she said she’d be going back to trying YouTube, but here we are with nothing. I can’t imagine the day this girl can’t use YT for paying the bills anymore. She couldn’t handle a real job, not for a day. She’s on drugs and doesn’t function like a normal adult is supposed to.
I didn’t even think of the idea of Jonny having siblings. I feel bad for her but clearly she wants Jonny in her life? What kind of person wants a relationship with a rapist like Jonny?? Regardless of if you’re family or not, that’s gross.
Also I see the picture was deleted because she’s a minor? I’m not the one who posted it but I’m confused how she is a minor if she’s in college? I guess she could be someone really young getting into college but can’t say for sure.
He might have sent it to her & she's showing him via photo that she got it, & he re-posted it on his stories.
It's normal for abusive
people to reach out to younger relatives, because it forces the older ones to be more cordial with them.
Regardless, it would be best to keep his family members out of this.
It's easier to manipulate younger family members who haven't put up with your abusive
shit for as long as the older ones have.
It depends on when her birthday is. Or she's been accepted but her birthday is coming up.
Idk how the farmhands know she's a minor but it's probably just a precaution.
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Taylor's never afraid to just say "I/My/Me"
All that "We/Our/Us" is more of Jonny's thing.
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Good luck spending 4k a month on rent
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Uhm does Jonny know that most places you RENT do not allow home improvements, renovations, any sort of unauthorised building? Some places won't even let you bang a nail in the wall for a picture to hang. They're going to fuck this up somehow.
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“I’m so so happy my journey can help others”….BARF! She didn’t help anyone!!
And apparently she’s not worried about having doxed herself…the police will protect her! Imagine Jonny’s drug dealer friends turning up. There goes the neighborhood!!
Honestly they are so stupid for renting a $4k/mo huge house like this. You can easily BUY a nice home for less than this per month for the mortgage! This is all part of the flex they (especially Jonny) have to do on everyone to show how much "better" their lives are than other people's. With the kind of money she has she is literally throwing half of ten thousand dollars a month down the drain on something she will never own. I just don't get it.
This place is huge, too. I hope for the landlord's sake that she puts in a lot of money into housekeepers because with the way they treat the tiny apartment they have now already, this new place will be TRASHED with shit in no time. She will have to spend probably another thousand dollars a month just on housekeeping since she will never lift a finger and do it herself (and I'm sure Betsy doesn't have all the time in the world to do it when she has a baby to take care of).
I'm also worried her animal collecting is going to go on a binge again. She defends her quick collection of animals as ok because she has the money and space for them. To her, financial ability to care for = the best care. I feel like in a huge ass house like this, she's going to have TONS more room to get more animals so she will just say "oh well I have all this space, so they're well cared for!!"
funny, you say she uses "I/me/my", and an hour later she posts this >>646005
about "our" animals. we all know that even the animals that she bought as a "gift" for Jonny (something she vehemently speaks against, giving animals as gifts to people who aren't prepared for them) are really just an excuse for her to buy herself more animals.
I know this might be kind of tinfoiling but I kind of agree with you. The pet policy on the Zillow page says cats and dogs. Not sure how Zillow's description works, but why wouldn't they state that aquariums and reptiles (especially large ones like monitors) are ok?
Even if the landlord is cool with her having cats and fish and lizards, I HIGHLY doubt she told them how many she really has. I'm sure she did her usual "oh yeah I have like maybe 20 animals total including my fish tank" when in reality she has what, almost 60 or something like that?? I really don't see how any landlord would accept that number for a renter. I bet she also gave a sweetened up story about how she's an "animal educator~", so these animals are the only way she affords to live.
I agree with you she definitely downplayed the number. IME places say "cats and dogs" to differentiate from places that only allow cats or only small dogs or whatever, reptiles are never included because it's less common for people to have them.
A lot of rental places will let you slide with animals that live in tanks, but only if they're not likely to cause a problem. I can't imagine any rental agency looks at Taylor and thinks "oh yeah, she looks responsible." Plus the number of animals she has (including all her mammals, which don't live in their enclosures full time and are more messy/smelly than the snakes), and the fact that none of her tanks are small so a leak could destroy the flooring… no rental agency would take those risks.
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Aww yeah! Kronos is gonna tear that Atrium to PIECES!
…Not to mention temperature regulation
. I'm sure he's hardy, but what if it gets too hot/cold in there?
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This person clearly hasn't been looking at her most recent videos
…And living with a manipulative abuser
who continues to make underhanded attempts at isolating you from your support system.
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wasnt that the apartment?
damn the house is riduculous, does it hurt them to be a little humble?
Well, maybe if you didn't literally doxx yourselves, you wouldn't be dealing with this shit, Jonny.
All of the 'drama' & 'negativity' you've been going through is self-inflicted.
Taylor wouldn't be going through most
of this awful shit if she didn't have you
Yeah no one here said "I googled atrium home San Antonio" and found it, her dumb boyfriend posted the fucking community name on ig. Lmao. Just more exaggerating about how people are sooo crazy online and she's suuuch a victim
, wah wah
Exactly. When is Taylor gonna get that her boyfriend wants
people to bother her?
people to hate her. That way he doesn't have to suffer alone. Misery loves company.
What better way to accomplish that then by driving her crazy with paranoia & dismissing genuine concerns from her fans?
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(Regarding the Atrium)
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>>"I am so happy and relieved to see only positive encouraging comments"
>>"Me and my son love your videos so much and love jonnys music as well "
>>"power couple af"
>>"clearly very successful and have worked hard to get here"
This… its just a method of isolation from abusers. Jonny already severed the relationship between Taylor and her mom. Yeah they still talk and see each other, but only because her mom rolled over and suddenly decided to “like” Jonny, even though she hates him. She knows he is destroying is daughter slowly but surely, but she literally won’t be able to have contact with her is she disapproves of him because he will isolate her completely from her. Granted her mom is batshit crazy, but she’s still the only person in her life that seemed to somewhat care about her. All the perfect friends are very obviously fake and have been since day 1, and I highly doubt Betsy can care that much and support her rapist of a boyfriend when she has a baby to take care of and protect. Taylor really doesn’t have any real support or genuine friends. That’s why she relies on everyone on social media to shower her with ass pats and attention. Which almost makes me feel bad for her.>>646059
I don’t believe either of them are sober. Jonny already showed proof they are still using by displaying his blatantly obvious story on IG with the sticker covering the nightstand, where they previously had needles. Even if you want to believe he is using, but she is sober, there’s no way that will happen. For as long as he’s using, she will use with him. This is what Jonny wanted, the GF he can control and hook to drugs to be his miserable company and Taylor wanted the lavish rockstar lifestyle, even though it’s not very rockstarish anymore. I think she is being very careful about what she says and shows. But Jonny has not, which I think he intentionally does. He shows things she won’t, like Nemo having a UTI, trying to cover up their nightstand with heroin needles, etc. Shes being very careful so she gives the impression that she has gotten better, when she hasn’t. For as long as Jonny is around, she will never get better.
>>"For as long as Jonny is around, she will never get better."
This. He's got her down to his level, right where he wants her.
Also want to add that they're moving further away from her family. Who wants to bet her parents won't be allowed in by security?
I doubt her parents ever even went over to their apartment. They seemed to only be together if they were at her moms house, out for food, or Disneyland. Their house has drugs in it. I’m sure Jonny made it a ground rule that they are never allowed in the house for that reason. I’m sure he tries to be innocent and tell it to her in a sugarcoated way too. “Oh baby your parents would just never understand!!”
It’s disgusting but true, he really has her right where he wants her. She is riddled with self-doubt, no self esteem, and feels like she is in a corner with people calling her out on her bullshit left and right. So Jonny is there to be the enabler and tell her she’s not doing anything wrong, they’re all just haters! He uses the “it’s us against the world” mentality in a very toxic
I’m wondering if he will be proposing to her soon just to get that added security that she won’t leave him. If she had to divorce him he’d just get more money from her, which is a plus for him. But honestly he has so much control over her probably has more dirt on her that he doesn’t show, so idk if she’ll ever work up the courage to leave him. Plus she’s hooked on the drugs he provides her.
I remember a long time ago when she “broke up” with him on Twitter Taylor even mentioned she wants to have a family with him, like ewwww. I don’t doubt when she reaches her breaking point and is about to leave him, he’ll find a way to get her pregnant and then they’ll get married. Then she’ll feel stuck even more.
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>>"He shows things she won’t, like Nemo having a UTI"
But how is he gonna flex the things his sugar mama gets him without doxxing himself and then playing the victim
Yikes. I'd completely forgotten about the roaches. I would not want this white trash in my neighbourhood. The landlord is a fucking moron, and he deserves to have that beautiful home destroyed (and specially the Atrium) for allowing this piss demon to move in.>>646051
At this point she might as well be wiping her ass with $100 bills.>>646074
Eh. Taylor brought this upon herself. If she ends up completely ruining her body due to drugs, she kinda deserves it. She was warned by MULTIPLE people, but she had to be defiant because she's a petulant moron. At this point, I don't care what happens to her, I just hope her animals are safe, and I hope she doesn't get any more poor animals.
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Remember this folks. Keep it for future reference.
I like how it took her several weeks to say anything about it, Jonny did it for her lol.
Annoying how she goes on and on “omg he’s literally my best friend!!! uwu I love him so much” but doesn’t show when he is hurt/something is wrong and she’s getting him treated. She has to act like her animal care is so perfect… she’s always using this phrase “he’s perfectly fine”
probably paying extra. Large down payment? Insurance perhaps?
As long as she pay their overpriced rent, they probably don't care about animals. No shortage of greedy wannabe land barons. 4k in rent is outrageous for 2 people with no kids or steady income.
I wanna know how much moving all her shit is gonna cost. Its gonna be a shit show in a couple weeks. If this is them organized and settled what's moving gonna be like?
Sounds like an abusive
/neglectful parent tbh.
"I LOVE my kid(s)!" is often their first defense when concerns of neglect are brought up.
…And there's always the defensive "Are YOU telling ME how to raise MY kids?!?"
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Yeah babe sorry I got you hooked on heroin, raped some chicks and probs cheated on ya, all things that show love yeah? So let's focus on dem haterz baby so we can ignore the shitty things I've done. Gossip is worse than rape and heroin so focus on them babe. Btw sorry ur going through drug induced hell. Love ya tho!
Ugh he makes me sick.
"waiting for his UTI to end" is such a weird way to phrase it, she acts like they went to a vet and suddenly he was good. UTIs in cats are just like they are in people in that it takes treatment to make them go away if they get bad, wtf Taylor?>>646102
He probably swears his music is about to take back off and he'll be able to help her with the rent and she believes him. Meanwhile in reality, both their careers are doing terribly right now and she's probably going to end up with him dying or leaving her so either way she's alone in that house she can't afford with a billion animals she also can't afford.
he's probably on the search for another chick that doesn't have a dying channel like Taylor's. I'm betting big money that he'll leave her on the spot if he catches a girl that has 2x the money than Tay.
I'm all about people having free will and you shouldn't control your partner, but if someone loves you, they wouldn't even think of following a bunch of girls on social media because why?
That's right Jonny, keep telling her that people want to 'hurt' her & 'drag' her down.
Always gotta make sure she stays just as paranoid as you are…
Thing is she can kiss trending tweets goodbye because even those tween fans are beginning to question her animal acquisition. If she rolls up with another animal and some copy pasted Wikipedia info, I doubt it'll get far because people won't bother to repost it.
I'm pretty sure her YouTube career is screwed as well, I know I mentally tune out people who don't upload for ages or end up having no clue who they are. Even if they're still subscribed, I do wonder how many fans would actually click on a new video - especially a moving one. They subscribed for her animals, not some clickbaity vlog. (I'm placing bets on her calling it something along the lines of 'kicked out for killing my animals?!' just because she has 0 sense.)
It's so obvious! This is his form of manipulation towards her. Keep people hating her and make it look like he will be there for her and protect her against the ~haters~.
It's such an illusion. Nobody here is going to be calling the police or animal control or whatever, actually it's against the rules here. People will act solo maybe sure, but it won't be on this website.
Gotta make it always seem like them two against the world. Keep her where he wants her.
it's kind of a weird house, actually. still listed on most rental realty pages if you look at the price and the city, so it's very easy to find, given that picture of the atrium. there's a lot of nice, affordable housing rentals down there, but that one has bizarre rooms due to the curved walls. she could have gotten something super nice for half the price.
it doesn't make much difference as it'll get trashed soon.
the fact that it's a gated community and that they're on a corner is going to put them in a fishbowl for their neighbors, who will likely be keeping a close eye on all those bins coming in. gated communities are filled with nosey assholes, it's just fact.
She only had three videos over the past year pulling in 1 million + views, the rest have done pretty poorly for a channel with as many subscribers as she has. That being said, I think her moving vlog will see some traction if she combines it with an "all my pets" vibe >>646205
Apparently, that neighbourhood is for the "upper echelon" of San Antonio residents. If course they'll be nosy, they're probably paying a premium and don't want addicted messy faux-riche kids moving in.
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Here's to many more 'dark' places in the future!
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>>"I make more than 4x what I need for this house monthly!"
…Not enough for in-patient rehab though. :(
Well, now that you said it here, she's gonna pump it out asap.
Let's just see what unfolds…
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this is the apartment, that means she’s raking in 16k a month.
How?! She’s inactive she should be getting under ten thousand right?
He gave her the means and encouraged her INTO the darkest time of her life. How can she thank him for something he has a large part in?
These landlords deserve to have their house trashed. There’s proof everywhere of their drug use, excessive animals, and poor house keeping. On top of that, JC has awful credit and no bank account. I only feel bad for the poor neighbors that get stuck with them.
I doubt she's making that much. 10k a month on her best months, 3k or so on worst. Sponsorship deals 30k each. I could see maybe 200k year. That's before taxes and expenses and whatnot. Taxes on YT aka self employed is 15% plus. I doubt she realizes that money you earn isn't necessarily money you will keep after taxes. Her disposable income in reality is probably only 40k or so.
Hidden costs in time and money is huge in a luxury home. Large house = large upkeep = $$$. Heating/cooling, lawncare, utilities, repairs, furnishings, lightbulbs, ect. Her lifestyle is pretty decadent for such an unpredictable field.
Her spending rn is not sustainable when her YT career probably on has 3 years or so left. She's 22 in march and most successful youtubers start branching out into additional business ventures well before 25. If she was smart she'd reinvest that money into talks with big time companies or her own business. Her 1mil is peanuts.
when you rent there is much less investment though, that's money going down the drain
Like other anons mentioned her wealth and lifestyle won't last
If she's earning over 16k a month, she could easily save up enough for a sizable down-payment, which makes owning a home much easier. This is especially true in places where the living costs are low, like San Antonio.
If she was smart she would have been putting most of her sponsorship money away and doing something with it. Hell, the extra money she's decided to spend on rent compared to her apartment could have easily gone into savings, which is more than many people can afford to save. >>646267
Renting means you're not earning equity in property, or working towards something you can rent out or sell for a profit later on. Some people consider that a waste, but it's all subjective.
It's REALLY a waste when she could be renting a house for half the price, and invest the money she's not using for rent. In anything.
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…Make that Thursday.
It's been posted back when they looked at it >>644121
I wouldn't worry about revealing it, Jonny doxed them before they even applied for it.
It would have to be an incredibly massive down payment and she'd have to prove to the bank her income's steady enough to not make them nervous about her defaulting in the future.
I know there are YouTubers who have scrimped and saved to buy a house, but they're the ones whose channels see steady views and get stable income. Her income's all over the place because she can't do her job on a regular basis. I doubt she's steadily pulling in $16,000 a month. Plus given their drug habit and flexing, they're spending it as quickly as it's coming in. If her credit's shot because she's not paying bills on time due to not having money at the time or being too strung out to actually pay the ones not on auto pay, it wouldn't surprise me.
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A house like this is sooo much nicer and much cheaper. And also in a gated community. They’re so gross with their desire to get the most expensive place just to brag
Because she owes the IRS 100k in debt, which prevents her from buying a house, for starters.
Her saying she earns 16k a month is most likely a lie. Why else would she be so concerned about having a budget if she supposedly earns 4 times the amount of rent she has to pay? Maybe
she earns that when she's active on social media, but now? Highly unlikely.
>>646358>I bet you isn't worried at all about her youtube career and thinks it'll be easy to keep churning in money if she just posts here and there.
Funny you mention that. Just earlier I was watching a video by Stef Sanjati where she basically had to go back home because she was getting into massive debt from an indefinite roadtrip she wanted to have. She had that exact mentality that her YouTube money was gonna be there and it was going to be easy, but soon enough her bubble burst.
Taylor thinks this YouTube "career" is going to give her money forever, when it's more than likely that this house is going to catch up with her finances and she'll have to downgrade, especially because JC has no income. Like it's trendy to see young youtubers getting fancy houses but those people have a massive audience compared to Taylor and they branched out into other things besides YouTube.
I don't want her to fail because then her animals would suffer even more, but goddamn is she financially stupid.
I'm so curious when all this money will run out. She hasn't even posted a video in forever. I don't even understand how she is able to even live right now
. How she's in 100k debt, plus maybe more because taxes just came around again? It's all baffling to me. She has so many habits that she sustains with so much money, including Jonny, and all of her animals. Then being able to move into a place even more expensive than she was living before??? Is she the one selling the drugs?? Hahahahaha
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Is he trying to take lolcow down?
Could it be because they don't want their future landlord to be informed of this? Hmmm
>> "Something tells me Jonny takes this shit way more personally and seriously than Taylor does."
He obviously does.
Taylor didn't pay so much attention to 'the haterz' until
he came along.
He always has to keep her looking over her shoulder. Always. That way she has no one else
but him to run to.
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Some advice to Taylor from her good friend Elijah.
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You know, for a "Family-Friendly Pet-Mom", Taylor sure loves child-predators…
shit dude. so Jonny solicited nudes from a minor? and then when he threatened to publicly post this literal child porn, he laughed when she got upset? Am I reading this right?
Jesus Christ. rapist, pedophile, and threatening to revenge-post child porn. what a catch, Taylor
The age difference between them says everything you need to know. I know Taylor wasn't a minor when they started dating, but it's actually disgusting how he goes after younger women.
Then again Taylor also put out underage nudes of herself. So she's also distributed child porn.
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I don't suppose she's too bothered having the work of a pedophile on her forever if she's dating one
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Yes. Even when he started dating Taylor.
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Which tattoos of hers are from Romeo? It doesn't seem like any that she has would be easily covered up, especially the black blobs, like the heart she got to cover her track marks
She has a lot from him.
Snake with flowers on her wrist, By Myself, Nala, Cheese, a mantis tattoo, and a match and tree above her elbow.
No one can salvage that hideous heart. She'd need it lasered first.
THIS. If any of them are lurking FUCKING NOTE that this is the shit that is going to piss people off. Not to troll her or harass her for no reason. This is one of many
reasons. Most of her problems would be solved if she just broke up with Jonny.
I wonder if she has any clue as to how much it would positively
affect her career if she dumped him and spoke out about her experience being in an unhealthy relationship with this has been ass musician/child predator, or she's just too blinded by being with someone she can enable and who will enable her into her vices.
I doubt she would leave him so easily. They have like Sid & Nancy complex. They romanticize their issues instead of recognizing how unhealthy and fucked up their relationship is. I bet he gaslights her and plays all sorts of manipulative mind tricks. And Taylor gets off from being rebellious bc her parents coddled her & she knows people dont like their relationship. but instead of trusting people when they say he's a POS she romanticizes this 'us against the world' mentalitly. I will never WK her pet care and other shitty decisions but I do consider her a victim
of Jonny and her own naivity. I just hope she puts her pride aside sooner rather than later.
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this would be a great time for her to boot Jonny. I don't think she will, but moving into a gated community would provide her security from him showing up at her door to throw a tantrum. I highly doubt he's on the lease, and she could find a way to send him out to run an errand and then notify the gatehouse not to let him back into the neighborhood. call those police who patrol the streets and tell them to watch out for him too.
she won't, but it would make it easier for her.
"We" kek. How much of the $4k rent are you paying Jonny? And with what income?
When she inevitably dumps him he will have nothing and be homeless once again, so enjoy it while it lasts, I guess.
True, but now he has a taste for the good life. What other reasonably wealthy woman would want Jonny in their life?
With Taylor he has a huge house, seemingly endless spending money to buy all his crappy toys and shoes, doesn't have to have a job, can do all the drugs he wants with no complaints, cheat on her, the list goes on. I honestly doubt there is anyone else who would put up with his shit who has the kind of money and lifestyle he is now accustomed to.
If he dumped her, what would he have? Nothing. Therefore, I reckon he isn't going anywhere without a fight.
Colin implied that Taylor's parents were using her fer money.
Whether that's true or not, Jonny definitely
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>>"Gonna get all my shame and doubt off my chest and bare my soul"
"I'm getting better guys, really!"
God damn it these two really
need to learn the meaning of 'Show, don't tell.'
is this him claiming he's been sober for 60 days? lmao what a joke, the truth came out on Jan 24 so it hasn't even been 60 days since they started going to the clinic. And we all know they were still using even after they started "seeking treatment">>646763
so you're gonna admit to all the rape and abuse, the scams, the cheating, the drugs, everything? hm ok
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is that not an obvious injection site right under her wrist? also in the image she posted not on her story the back of her hand looks suspiciously bruised as well.
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You can make plenty happy by making 3 extremely good choices!
1, leave Jonny, he's a piece of shit and you know it. A real man would tell you to put that nasty shit down and treat yourself better, not encourage it.
2, Slow down on the animal purchases, and don't replace dying ones with more. Stick with a reasonable amount of pets that you can handle, maybe less accidents will happen.
3, Leave Jonny, he's a piece of shit. Get you a MAN who won't let you inject shit into your veins, who actually values you enough to not put you through hell and back with their troubled misery. A nice farmboy or something Taylor, you're in Texas for fuck sake there's plenty, they'll probs have a great love animals too and not treat you like an ATM machine.
Most of her content is shit. I’ve seen 10-year olds with better editing skills…
“I’m getting healthier”. WTF. It’s not like she was sick with the flu…she CHOSE (and probably still does) drugs. And don’t go off on the “it’s a disease” crap. Initially it was a choice. HER choice. Say it like it is.
And not reading comments?! Seriously? That’s how you interact and communicate with your followers. It’s not like her care is all that great.
And bets on how long it takes for that house to be trashed. The people who approved her application had to be desperate. Sure glad they’re not living next to me!
She says this same exact shit every time she pretends she's making a comeback from her "mental health breaks." How does anyone believe a single word she writes?
How many videos has she even made in the past 6 months-year? I doubt it even averages to 1 a month at this point.
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As much as I appreciate the much-needed self-reflection here…she's done this before (See pic)
in a relationship with a drug-abusing, women-beating rapist & pedophile.
Sorry Taylor, but as long as you keep supporting & promoting Jonny Craig, the amount of people supporting you is just going to keep getting smaller.
I'm so glad I'm not in the same neighbourhood as her, especially a nice gated neighbourhood. Lol. Can't imagine seeing a nice property get wrecked by these immature addicts.>>646812
She's made 29-30 videos over the past year, depending on how you want to measure it. She hasn't made any videos on YouTube since December, and she usually does them in small spurts.
That averages to 2.5 videos/month.
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Omg. Shows you how much of a fan this twat is…she thinks tay tay is the one with PW!!! Favorite YouTuber my shiny white one.
Um, no. Taylor is the one that comes up with anew disease/illness when it’s convenient!!
I'm not seeing her profile anywhere…
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Back on twitter & already
fucking lying smdh
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They’re becoming more aware
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lots of stuff going down. priorities, taylor, priorities.
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Down to earth? Sweet? Talks to her fans and best of all…takes criticism? Are we talking about the same Taylor Nicole Dean?
The one I know of couldn’t tell the truth if it were written out for her! Every animals age is extended from actual. The comments on her most recent tweet are nauseating!
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So, she thinks she can come back onto Twitter, lie through her teeth to all of her fans AGAIN
& get away with it?
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>>"I didn't lie about using. I only started 4 months ago"
so now she's claiming she was using in November? Despite claiming before she "relapsed" in December? And relapsed in September? and obviously whenever Petfest was? as well as early 2018?
was she ever not
using? wtf this girl just keeps adding to the timeline of her drug addiction and making herself look worse like she hasn't been clean for a year
She really thought she could come back to twitter & play everyone all over again…
Sorry Taylor, this ain't Instagram where you can 'moderate' other people's comments!
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Just gotta throw some shade huh, Jonny?
not that I don't want her career to spiral and crash and her to rehome her animals, but GOD this girl has been back on twitter for 25 seconds and she can't even ignore the "hate" already, she's instantly back to lying and defending herself all waking hours.
A normal person would reactivate their twitter and ignore the drama, but Taylor likes setting herself on fire for attention.
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Pretty sure a few people have and would say this shit publically if it weren't for you blocking and deleting every tiny bit of critism or judgement. Personally I think Taylor could easily redeem herself and become a better person, but not you Jonny. Oh How we all wait for the day she is not a part of your misery anymore! Shes not perfect but she's better off without you. I'm glad reading all this gets to you Jonny, because it wouldn't if you weren't guilty.
also you're sperging out a bit. people don't usually go to jail for being shit people.
People definitely go to jail for sharing child porn. And yes, collecting and spreading child porn makes you a pedo.
Most homes like that, especially if they're being handled via a realty mgmt. company, pretty sure they would force him to be on the lease. It's a bad idea to have a couple only put one person's name on the paperwork, especially when the rent is that high. Also easier if you have to evict them, like say if they use the home to breed dubia or feeder mice or what have you. If they rented privately and direct from the owner, maybe he could skip out. But that house was on every San Antonio realtor site.>>646912
I'd love to run into Taylor or Jonny, really. He's a manlet. What's he going to do with those stroppy arms and his multiple organ failures? Drool on someone?
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Buy a dictionary and look up the word slander, you window licker. Slander isn't written. That's libel. Not to mention that nothing is slander or libel if it's true.
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'Booj', you got a big storm comin'
This is from one of Jonny's former associates.
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His (former) dealer…
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…One of Taylor's friends…
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…A woman who worked with one of Jonny's bands…
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don’t forget Taylor and Chelsea’s conversation from December 2017 where Taylor says she’s been smoking heroin
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I'm sure her animals are gonna love this feature of the house
also she's speaking in that drugged out baby voice in her IG stories, not sure if worth noting
Just showing 'Booj' up there that Chelsea isn't the only
one '''slandering''' Taylor & Jonny.
You wanna come in here & blame Jonny's exes for all this drama? You better be ready to blame Jonny's former band-mates & associates, Taylors close friends & family, and Taylor herself as well.
Jonny already isolated her from most of them.
…Of course maybe 'The Help' (aka Betsy) will probably be the only one allowed to visit.
I'm with you, I like the house for the most part (don't like some interior design choices but the atrium is cool).
Taylor and Jonny are just idiots who decided to move into a house that's out of their budgets and is easily identifiable. And this anon >>647031
is absolutely correct, it's going to get disgusting once they live there.
Oh yeah, that baby voice is a dead giveaway. I had an ex that smoked H and he always had that stupid baby voice right after he left his high session in the bathroom. I hate that sound and it sends chills down my spine but they all have it!
Also agree the house is dirty, outdated and way overpriced. I don’t want to imagine how that already dirty carpet is going to look with all the animals housed in that room. They’ll have to tear the carpet out after J & T either move or get evicted.
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Just a friendly reminder that all of the money she gets from her fans enables Jonny as well.
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Kiki just posted this on her insta story
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When a crap ton of girls say one dude did this or that to them it’s likely true.
P sure he is referencing the most recent girl
He can go on ahead & mind his own damn business.
Just let this self-sabotaging cyclone take his course.
so we're all supposed to believe Taylor without question when she says Bree
rubbed up on her, but the multiple girls who have come forward about Jonny raping/beating them are all liars, no matter what they say or the restraining orders they obtained against him?
so much for believing the victims
, taylor. you're despicable
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I like how Jonny goes from posting stuff like this, to passive aggressive stuff, then back to this… he's literally just repeating the same points over and over about how "happy" they are. Honestly if you have to stress to people how "happy" and how much "better" your life is than other people's, then you have a shitty life. If you have to push how great your relationship is almost 24/7, you have a bad relationship. Lmao Jonny is so hell bent on proving to everyone his life is better than everyone's, which is honestly just sad.
They are no doubt experiencing a high from this upgrade in their house. Sorry but that's a temporary fix, something that will only make you feel good for so long… Jonny still isn't out of the picture so she isn't really getting better. Let's be real.
I figured when she returned to Twitter especially, she would be very careful about what she says. But NOPE, she's ALREADY back to lying! It hasn't even been a fucking day. Good god, she never changes. This is why she isn't getting better. She is literally still the same lying POS she has been for years.
This relationship between the two of them is not going to end well. Unless Jonny ODs before they break up.
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From Taylor's instastory, am I dumb and these are leggings, or are these 2 new tattoos?
they certainly look like tats but what a weird placement.
does she follow back on insta, or do you have to have been a follower for a while?
have AT LEAST two animal rooms, one for reptiles and one for mammals. It would be constantly stressful for her rats/hedgehog(s) to live in the same room as their natural predators.
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uploading webms of taylor's instagrams. jonny's arent interesting and I hate him so someone else can deal with that.
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keys and a bit of jonny
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cleaning the fountain
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the future animal room>>647123
don't worry, this one seems to have a closet, too!
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last one. video coming soon u guyssss!
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They're tattoo tights. Looks like these ones.
why are we sperging about her tattoo tights?
how much do you wanna bet one of her animals is going to drown in the atrium fountain because she's too drugged up to watch them?
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Seems like his parents know exactly what kind of person he is.
Outdoor fountains require care or their filters will clog up and motors burn out. That thing's going to be nothing more than a pool of green scum as soon as it gets warm enough. Unless, of course, it's going to be Betsy's job to make sure it stays clean.
That atrium is so 70s looking and from the little I see in the videos, negatively affects the usable space inside the house. It's sad they're after features they can flex about rather than ones which are practical. Oh well. Not my house.
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honestly, with Taylor's "I have no human friends in Texas" tweet, I doubt Betsy has anything to do with her anymore, paid labor or not. I sure wouldn't want this rape-and-pedophilia apologist around my child.
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some jonny tea was spilled in my fb group just now
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Both him & Taylor are all-hype.
Remember the livestream she promised back in Nov/Dec?
Remember Cheese's Necropsy results?
Shall we place bets on how long it'll take for her to edit her "Moving-in" video?
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Yeah, and when she does
deliver it's very skeevy and/or underwhelming.
I just remembered Repzilla's interesting analysis of her 'apology' letter to South Texas Dragons.
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another example of Taylor not knowing shit about taking care of cats: just tossed them into an unfamiliar environment without any adjustment period. typically it's recommended to keep them in one closed room for a day so they know they have a safe space they can return to that is their territory. but poor outdoor cat Star feels unsafe in a new, large, open house, and Jonny finds it annoying that she's insecure.
also their house appears to have no doors separating the rooms, so of course it would be difficult to properly acclimate a cat, unless keeping them in the bathroom or closet.
Well, she is
in the middle of moving…
I have been thinking about this. She posted what, 3? selfies in the clinic (and nothing more on behalf of her or Johnny and because they’re so hellbent on proving everybody wrong I feel it in my absolute heart that they would’ve posted more had they actually gone)
gal has relatively new track marks, gets on twitter (which tinfoil again but i feel like she got high and thought it might be a good idea)
and lies her ass off.
She will not get clean as long as Johnny is around (I know this has been said so many times before) and she’s definitely not clean now. She went from posting selfies constantly, to nothing. I know she’s moving now, but we know damn well Taylor’s selfie posting self would be flexing her hideous outfits in one of the bathroom mirrors.
It’s all tinfoil, but for good reason.
Agreed. This is major tinfoiling but I also wonder if sometimes Jonny gets a little violent and leaves even a small mark on her. She bruises easy so it would be obvious. I can see him “trying” to get clean, going through withdrawals, being verbally violent and pushing her around in some way physically, then using and then lovebombing her to make up for it. She is so vain and obsessed with the attention from others that I just can’t see why she would suddenly not show any of herself/her face (besides her nails).
They’re both definitely using, they just are so hellbent I’m making it seem like they’re better because they’re upgrading to a bigger house… I still don’t understand how to then, that = getting better and making progress. They didn’t even buy a house like was said all along. Poor Jonny must be upset he flexed that they were looking into BUYING million dollar houses, lmao what a joke. They’re renting a place that costs fifty thousand dollars a year, only to never own it. That doesn’t equal progress and getting better…
I can’t beleive she already lied her ass off on Twitter. She hasn’t changed one bit
Then… why are there new track marks on Taylor's hand? And zero mention of the clinic, despite posting it the first few times?
I have a hard time believing they are sober. Especially because they're both so obsessed with emphasizing how "sober" they are..
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Taylor gets her nails done, Jonny gets his hair bleached, they both look just like they did when they first met.
Looks like they're gonna start all over again!
Let the facade begin!
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Totally sober guys
It's not a retweet, it's a liked tweet. It's still in her likes. Also, I searched her name to find her profile (too lazy to type it in) and there are lots of negative tweets in the search. In particular, the people responding to the tweet from >>646822
and setting her straight made me laugh. Taylor really fucked up. I can't imagine she actually thinks she can come back from this unscathed.
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No matter how much money she has or how she can afford them she doesn’t have the time for them, there’s only 24 hours in a day and some of them require hours away from their cage each day.
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now she has… allergies to food? celiac is an autoimmune disorder, not an allergy. (which she definitely doesn't have, she may be gluten intolerant, but celiac is way more serious than she treats her condition) you would think she would know the difference considering how often she uses it to get out of shit.
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Boy, I hope SLAVES is listening to this shit, especially @colin_vieira
He mentioned at barely 1 minute in that he was done with Texas girls when he broke up with his ex.
then around 4:10 the host says "you mentioned … your girlfriend has a lot of animals, are you an animals guy in general?"
jonny:>"uhm yeah I mean I've always been. Anyone can tell you man, I've owned like, I've owned cats and obviously you know, breaking up with girlfriends they take the cat. course they try to act like I abandoned them and shit. but if I had the opportunity they wouldn't let me take them. so I don't know why they talk shit. but uh yeah, they wouldn't let me take them even if I wanted to, so they just talk shit for nothing but uh - I love animals"
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He says he isn't shit-talking them, but literally says in the interview:
“I’m not here to put anybody down. I wish the band the best. They have been talking so much shit
but i mean whatever if they wanna act like that they can. They’re adults they will get over it. They will figure it out”
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SLAVES co-founder Colin's only reaction to the interview so far…
Honestly they'd definitely only do it for the donations they would get… as if they have some kind of real passion or desire to stream. No full control over angles, what happens, unedited raw footage of them? It would be awful. She'd probably go full Twitch thot for sure and just go for the donations.
Also imagine the guilt she could pull on her younger fans, "all the money you donate would go to my animals! So they can live a better life! So please please donate to us!"
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It's the same guy he's been fooling around with over Skype, on and off for ages. Road to Rehab = Dave Sherman>>>/snow/642667
They posted about going to the movies together >>641011
so they definitley hung out in person.
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He probably has made decent money over the years traveling around and staying with musicians one on one. I can totally see Taylor paying him to come out for two weeks and keep Jonny's shooting up to a minimum. It probably involves some wonderfully delicate enabling.
I usually lurk but TND’s most recent post already shows animal cruelty.https://twitter.com/taylorndean/status/1108496916768268289?s=21
You aren’t supposed to touch any species of frogs with bare hands, especially dry bare hands. It harms the frogs skin, and frogs generally don’t like handling in the first place.
The frog also looks kind of stressed, I’m not a frog expert but thats what people have been saying
I'd like to see it because it would be a shit show. What would they even stream? Games? There are thousands of streamers who are both good at games AND entertaining. Twitch is becoming a very competitive industry. These two would flop hard in any gaming section.
Just chatting or IRL? So Taylor is moderately attractive, but let's be real. There are girls on Twitch who know how the game works and with JC in her stream, it just drives away the male preteens who would be her main audience. She's not hot enough to be twitch thot, sorry Tay.
Basically if Taylor's too lazy for Youtube, she's too lazy for streaming.
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What a tacky ass ugly couch kek.
She has to be close to broke. They spend money like water. Where I come from, when you move in you pay first and last month, plus security. Even if the place is pet-friendly, pet deposit is usually half the rent. Add this tacky ass couch that they probably bought at an overpriced chain and we're already looking at about 18k for this month alone. That's just dumb, sorry. She is running out of time quickly and you know she has nothing set aside for a possible dry spell w/r/t youtube.
how can she post something like this as a joke? this is pretty awful. she should really know better at this point>>647666
this is the video for anyone who can't watch ithttps://twitter.com/FLICTERIA/status/1086156438664347648
Irrelevant. Anyone can be a victim
of sexual assault, regardless of their past issues or problematic
activities. She's a victim
, we don't attack her for that.
Wow.by the end of all their expensive furnishing, their interier will look like a weird grandma is living there.>>647497
He’s 32 that thinks and speaks like a dropout higherschooler. Taylor must be so happy to be dating a “bad boy.” She must think that he’s a lost soul and she’s there to save him as if their life is a romantic movie. She lacks so much common sense and self awareness, tbh it’s fun to watch 2 dumb people choose to mess up their lives