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21 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/635136
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
(currently deactivated as of 2/14/19)
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:> Jennifer Dean refuses to actually help her daughter and blames others for the whole situation > Colin from Slaves posted on here about his experiences with Jonny. His posts start at >>>/pt/637869> Apparently are planning to move to a new house> Implied she had an eating disorder> Cannot keep story straight on rehab, has stopped posting about it> Posted an Instagram story with needles visible in the background> Continues to make stories on Instagram where track marks can be seen on her arms > Several animals that have been MIA were posted on Instagram after being mentioned on here. This includes several snakes, Ella, Mushu, Star, and Kronos> Star is overweight> Mushu is not dead (somehow) but is kept on a crowded tank sitting above her dishwasher> Kronos is not dead (somehow) but is still incredibly untame.> Valentino (Sinaloan Milksnake) was allegedly returned to the breeder after regurgitating his food and developing a respiratory infection. > Still no results from Chesse’s autopsy> TND promised a return to youtube in mid February, still has not come back near the end of March> Refers to detox as “getting healthy again”> TND and Jonny have moved into a curvy house with an atrium, which she claims she is intending to make into an enrichment space for the lizards> Have posted multiple photos/captions indicating that Star is extremely stressed in the new house, but both are too ignorant to the signs of stress in cats to recognize it
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Claims to be attending an outpatient rehab program, where they receive Vitriol injections> Jonny was kicked from the Slaves for incessant drug use http://archive.is/JO9vO> Taylor admitted to using heroin, this was corroborated by texts from Jonny http://archive.is/4GnJG http://archive.is/6sYGI> Accused former friend Breezexotics of sexual harassment http://archive.is/HiCCr> Has deleted Twitter once again> Friends have gone on damage control, trying to save their own reputations> Snakes are morbidly obese> Has returned from over a month long hiatus (for now)> Versatile Reptiles, Breezexotixs, and whatever (video anon) are verified with Tripcodes> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons> Admits to live feeding, and knocking rodents out with blunt force instead of a CO2 chamber (as recently as mid Nov, also leaving a live feeder alone with her snake for 20 mins, only checking on it once)> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths> Claiming that she's one of the few pettubers that is actually up front with the accident and the issues they have, despite trying to continuous hide the deaths of her mantis shrimp, lionfish, skinks, pacman frog etc for weeks-months after they happened> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes> Cheese died suddenly, conveniently when she released new merch featuring him, has been pushing her merch harder than usual> She has alluded to a ‘friend’ that has a cowfish twice the size of cheese that she may replace Cheese with (if she hasn’t already)> Gave Cheese a “viking funeral” then sent him for autopsy (put him on a boat during a monetized video)> Videos calling out her care have stated to take over searches for her> In combination with the call-out videos on YT, after she posted the video of Cheese’s “funeral” TND began to hemorrhage subscribers> Other pettubers began making (monetized) videos to defend TND and claiming that they were worried that “the bullying against Taylor” might ‘make her’ self harm> Other pettubers begin distancing themselves from TND> TND shuts off comments on the videos and instagram posts around cheese amid mass criticism > Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese> Recent Known Deaths: Orchid Mantis, Mantis Shrimp, Pacman Frog, Crocodile Skinks, Zazu, Cheese
Unconfirmed Milk:> Ursula (Halloween Crab) died of a mismolt, was possibly replaced with another female crab.> Electrical malfunction story was fabricated. Croc Skinks died of dehydration due to her not giving them enough water during a heatwave. Pacman frog died of malnutrition due to only being fed mice. > Gucci escaped from their enclosure and was missing for 2 months. Taylor bought Parada as a replacement. Gucci was found in Gus’ enclosure after eating him. Taylor claimed Gus died of old age. > Had a mite infestation, Bindi (Blue Tongue Skink) had it extremely badly> Mantis Shrimp died after only a few days instead of a few months as claimed> Leopard Gecko is kept in a dark tub > Valentino was not returned to the breeder and is dead> Her and Jonny were evicted> Is still using despite claiming to be clean
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
Why is the burner # in Cali then, where Manda herself lives? I know a lot of you guys are here because Taylor is the cow, and JC is just a symptom. Yet, I've been following the JC drama for a looooong time. He's the cow I'm, most interested in. Manda has been really unhinged about the entire thing, and granted, she has reason to be. However, as an outsider who has been watching their situation unfold for years, I bet either Manda did this to bring attention on herself for once as a survivor, instead of it always being Chelsea - OR - it's someone JC put up to doing it, a flying monkey. I do not believe it is JC himself.
Can someone explain how we know the burner number is Cali? I'm fucking dumb about this shit.
Secondly, can't you assign your phone number to be anything you want, even if it is a burner?
If you can't ask for whatever number you want, didn't Jonny travel to LA recently for 'work' and couldn't he simply have picked up a burner there? Genuinely don't see how we know the number in the first place, read the last thread and still not getting it.
Thank you, I thought I was going nuts or something. This assertion that the number is a California one is a little weird.
Besides the fact that there's no way to know where the number originated, my own area code has changed twice, there's voip phones and google numbers, you can fuck with phone numbers any which way. There have been some weird posts lately where someone is saying 'this screengrab proves x', I don't know. It's kinda sus.
I made it. >>648766
House is rented not bought, and tbh since she’s so sporadic with twitter I’ll update on the next one.
This doesn’t mean anything. You can install apps that assign you numbers with different area codes. Several years ago I installed an app that assigned me an American number and I wasn’t even in the country.
“The area code proves it isn’t me” is the kind of logic Jonny would apply if he got caught.
Amanda shouldn’t have answered his texts, though.
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he been lurking, seen our tinfoils, and posting stuff to disprove us while flipping off the camera. looks like he got a thermostat and a doorbell that can be linked to mobile apps, hence the phones on the boxes. be more obvious, Jonny. you're still a scumbag cheater and we all know it.
Again, I'm sure their new neighbors are going to love
I mean, the dude could still
have a burner phone though?
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So the entire story is that Amanda made a post, and that due to that post, JC got upset & sent her those texts. I'm including the original post that supposedly set JC off so that everyone has context for these supposed recent texts.
Aww, what's the matter Jonny? You mad that you're being watched?
I thought he just sounded high as shit kek >>648880
That would be so fucked if she immediately gets a dog, let alone a puppy right now while not even being properly settled in. Though I really wouldn't be surprised if they're looking for one now "Because they have the space now".
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Looks like Taylor got another mantis?
Thanks to old thread anon for making the thread! It’s other thread anon here, I haven’t really been on lolcow much lately due to lack of milk. Thread image is gold, I love it.>>648913
But anon, that would involve her actually having to record a video and send the files to someone, then tell them what to edit, and that is probably too much work for her at this point.
There's plenty of reasons. For starters, she'd need to have a regular upload schedule. She'd be an unreliable employer considering her constant need to take breaks and breaks from breaks. Then there's Jonny. The only reason Betsy is helping them is because she's an enabler. I'd like to think she's helping Taylor because she knows Jonny is abusive
, but it's still enabling regardless. Bringing an editor to help her out would not fly with Jonny, not to mention that he'd probably whine endlessly if she actually commited herself to a regular schedule because she wouldn't dedicate all her time to him anymore.
And then there's the simple fact that her videos don't really warrant an editor to begin with. She uses iMovie, and that program is really easy to use. A video like hers takes less than a day to edit, but she's probably sleeping all day to bother to do anything.
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I think they are just focused on twitch, honestly. I guess he will be the one doing it, because I can’t see them buying two set ups like this. As a pc gamer, this is a fairly serious rig, and for anyone that doesn’t think they are serious about twitch- I think you’ll be wrong. I’m surprised he would go from console to such a serious gaming pc, but I guess they really think it will take off for them.
Some people buy this sort of shit for themselves, you know.
Other anons have already stated what's obvious - they need to be dedicated and have some sort of regular schedule to even make a foothold in twitch, and they just aren't those kinds of people.
You're kidding right?
She is known
for her pets. If she starts a twitch channel, her viewers will constantly
demand to see her pets all the time.
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New photos on Taylor's IG.
Bindi in the oh-so-natural atrium complete with artificial turf!
Oh please. It is her addiction, not her depression that stops her from posting.
Either way, people have expressed concern and she’s decided to chase an abusive
relationship and the image of an addict. It’s not “waa depression”, it’s “waaaa I’m an addict that doesn’t want to seek help. Send me money pls”
That’s because he does. He claims his teeth cost 40,000 but the cash me ousside girl got 30,000 dollar veneers and they are considered the most expensive teeth out there.
In reality dude got his rotten teeth pulled and got a cheap ass bridge that looks like a child’s flipper from toddlers and tiaras.
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…And it wouldn't be a Taylor Nicole Dean™ photoset without one of her clutching it in only one
hand, held high up from the ground.
NTA but he said they cost $53k.>>649101
does she, like, think this is a funny way to show her animals? I just don't get why that's the only pose we ever see them in, gripped in one hand with most of their body dangling unsupported. Why can't she handle any of her animals properly???
I mean, to be fair, you CAN be depressed and addicted at the same time. Addiction can stem from other issues.
Not trying to justify her choices/actions- being depressed/addicted doesn't mean you shouldn't take responsibility for your shitty decisions. I just know depression can look completely normal from an outside perspective so trying to say someone is/isn't depressed is fruitless.
I mean, does her phone/camera have a 'timer' option?
I feel like that would make things a little
safer & easier for her & whatever animals she's holding…
Didn’t say she wasn’t depressed. I’m saying her inability to anything for more than five minutes is because she’s shooting up, lol.
No doubt that dislike of herself and depression drove her to make bad choices, but at this point she’s first and foremost an addict.
why does the bruise have obvious toes then? it's clearly a weird shadow of bindi.
she does, however have actual
bruising on the left of her hand at the top of the tattoo, which looks like bruising from injecting.
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the "bruise" has 5 perfect little points that match the shape of bindi's foot.
God that atrium is so ugly. Kek. There’s no actually sunlight anywhere… it’s basically a room with no roof with shitty fake grass carpet. Her ideas of fashion and choices in life is so baffleling. Everytime I see a photo of her new place, i get so triggered
cuz there was a house that is 1000000x better than that one and it’s a few blocks down with a beautiful yard. Then again I guess thaat ugly place was the only one that accepted them
lmao She went on & on about how the atrium is going to help her "connect to nature", but the grass is literally fake
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Taylor, just because an animal is not squirming around doesn’t mean they’re not stressed. Just because you THINK they don’t mind doesn’t mean they do. Just because they’re leaning on you as you hold them means they’re fully supportive.
Handling and taking care of an animal is not about what YOU THINK is better for them all the time, it’s also and always about what THEY think and feel. There’s a difference, Taylor. Please start thinking outside of your little mind so you can see wtf you’re doing
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She doesn't care even if they are
squirming around, as we've seen >>595938
I don't even get why she takes pictures like this. They aren't aesthetically pleasing and the focus goes straight to her hand in every photo. So she's putting her animals into uncomfortable positions, not supporting their bodies and stressing them out for ugly, shitty photos.
Taylor really just has to insert herself into every damn pic because she's that much of a narc.
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So much for that "Dream Apartment" lmao
What will be interesting is if she actually returns to YouTube. >>649198
I thought when had 2 cats not just ghost
EXACTLY… if you love your animals so much and claim your goal is just to show people how beautiful they are and educate them, why does every picture have to involve you? She makes it about herself rather than the animal. I remember her weird video about how animals help with her “depression” or something, the thumbnail was of her literally kissing her geckos, and idk, that says a lot about how she is. To focal point has to be her, oh look at me look at me, tell me I’m pretty. She has that kind of attitude because she is constantly starving for internet attention. I admire people in the pet community who post their animals in their enclosures or out in a safe play area, rather than pictures where they are nonstop being held like Taylor does.
She truly is narcissistic, begging for attention always. She probably had a huge high off of all the compliments she got on the new house (even though it’s… so expensive and unpractical?). I’m guessing the glamour of the new home is already starting to fade so she finally has to return with something else to offer for the attention.
… she has 3 cats, but this one story is about ghost. Not sure what you're trying to say>>649187
this video triggers
me so much the way she just whips the snake around like a piece of rope then jams it into one hand like I do not believe she knows how to handles as anything other than props (probably because the only time she handles them is as props for her social media)
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i mean it certainly isnt just a shadow. but they are moving so ehh.
Are some of you autistic? All these comments for nothing. Look right above the tattoo of her snake's head. That's exactly where a vein is. And she is confirmed someone that shoots up. For fuck's sake.
It's not even in the green stage of a bruise yet, so it's decently new.
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Ooo look out we got a badass over here… Sounds like something a 14 yo says after their first joint.
I have no doubt her addiction is gonna get much worse. Recovery? lol
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Wonder what's behind that big black sticker at the bottom…
Ohohohoho that's "Karma" all right!
…Karma for Taylor
, not us.
It appears to be a screenshot of another Instagram picture. Maybe he's sharing it to be funny or gauge her reaction so he can decide if he wants to do the real proposal that way?
Also fyi the black and white pic of her looking depressed is BEFORE the pic of the shoes
will marry you me?
Anyway it really wouldn't be surprising for him to propose to her. He better secure those money bags especially now that he's unemployed.
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Repost without my profile picture**
False alarm, this was posted on Instagram multiple times under the hashtag “proposal”
I do, however, speculate we will see a proposal soon. There's really nowhere else to go with their relationship (other than ending, but that's not really possible because Taylor doesn't make logical or reasonable decisions)
I imagine Johnny is testing the waters with it. He has nothing. He can rely on what is remaining of Taylor's career. They've got a house. What's next?
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Confirmed was not a proposal
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She’s making a bunch of video promises on her Instagram post of bindi.
So far she has promised an unboxing video, moving in video, reptile room tour video.
Then there’s just this, so the fans that don’t follow her outside of YouTube are just meant to accept the fact she’s missing a few animals, in a completely new home, been fucking missing in action for a few months now and that all those call out videos apparently never happened?
He’s so high he can’t even speak right, good lord. I’m guessing that’s what he meant but honestly idk>>649347
Ok LMAO, Jonny just got kicked out of his own band, Taylor has been inconsistent with her “career” for years and hasn’t done her job in literally 4 months. Yeah they must be so “focused on their careers” lmfao>>649352
That’s so stupid. So she expects everything to be completely normal pretending literally nothing happened, instead of owning up to her shit? She is still the same person she has always been, she hasn’t changed at all nor is she really getting better. Still going to just lie her way through everything, or at least omit the truth so that even her fans have no idea what’s going on.
I'm on this site for the Kanadajin3 and Onision threads, but I just realized something about this guy - is it possible he's been obsessively pushing his bands on 4chan?
I've been on 4chan's /mu/ board for a long time. I just realized this guy was in Dance Gavin Dance.
It's generally understood that there are two very different genres called "post-hardcore." One is experimental rock bands that are rooted in hardcore punk - that goes back to bands like Fugazi, Quicksand, and Drive Like Jehu, and more recently has led to bands like Touché Amoré, mewithoutYou, Big Ups, Brand New, At the Drive-In, and Planes Mistaken for Stars.
The other kind of "post-hardcore" is basically really terrible, glossy pop punk from the Hot Topic scene kid era, that superficially throws in random clichés from extreme metal. Obvious examples include Escape the Fate, From First to Last, and Underoath.
Needless to say, the first kind is generally considered good, the second is generally considered terrible.
Dance Gavin Dance is pretty definitively an example of the latter category. But for a long time, there were a few really obnoxious people pushing Dance Gavin Dance in every punk thread that came up. I actually listened to them quite a few times, trying to "get" the appeal. I finally gave up and left it alone, figuring there must be something that's not clicking with me.
But now that I know he's a childish junky, sexual abuser, and lolcow, I wonder if it was literally him and his friends trying to promote their shitty band.
Shocker, a narcissist wants everyone to rugsweep and just accept her "It's just how I am" shit. Fuck off.
I honestly doubt she'll post a video this year at this rate. It's April in several hours, still nothing.
It was probably one of his five total fans. Jonny is not smart enough to pull off any level of viral marketing. Post hardcore was just a fad, just like the scene kids that listened to it.
I'll never forget about the laptop debacle though.
thank you for the summary anon!
so even jonny knows that taylor is way too young for him.
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Just came across this comment by Jenn on a video about Jonny getting kicked out of SLAVES lmao
Thanks for these!
Now I want to see Slaves do amazing and Jonny have the full Pete Best experience.
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From Jonny's insta story, she clearly does not want to be filmed yet he starts filming her from behind and even after she clearly doesn't fucking want to be on camera he keeps going for a few seconds.
Also given she's this camera shy now I wouldn't expect a video anytime soon. Jonnys still a dick for filming her though.
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lmao he keeps yelling & shit & she's just responding out of obligation. She is so
sick of him.
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There's also this - posted today, March 31 2019
Wonder when she'll actually post it. Or not post it (more likely)
feel bad for her when he does this shit to her. Almost. But she clearly knows exactly how rough she looks and is so so uncomfortable and ashamed and he just does not give a shit about how she feels. It's sad. What an awful "relationship".
I know right?
All that flexxing. All that "We're SO happy together!!! #CoupleGoalz" BS.
We know it's all an act.
Remember back when she wanted him to OD & die?
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He is basically Taylor’s son at this point. After watching all his story videos, he obviously doesn’t give a shit about Taylor’s feelings or her choices. His mentally is “fuck you, i do what i want but i love you so can you give me toys?” towards her. She’s so stupid being with him. He’s gona milk her dry until he’s on to the next one
LMFAO yeah like Cheese's "necropsy results?" Nice April's Fools joke, bitch.
Her videos aren't something that require much work to make. She sits in a spot, manhandles an animal for two for like 10 minutes, then just uses shitty transitions and inserted text/images. It's really not that long or hard of a process.
Calling it now that her video (should it come out) has comments disabled, and she'll have another social media meltdown.
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jonny honestly seems like he has a mental disability with how much he randomly screeches. id be so ashamed if i was taylor
the mood is so uncomfortable in these clips.
And he sounds like how all the heroin junkies in the local park of my hometown sounded if you riled them up by walking by at a bad time. That exact exhausted sounding yelling…
A lot of junkies with spare change put on the pounds, though. Junkies who can, eat like pigs. Especially sweet/fatty crap. I think she def looks heavier than before and it's not like using makes you want to go
to the gym, more like you pass out watching MeTv reruns of some heinous shit that you forgot ever existed. Truly living the dream.
I wish she would have the balls to stand up for herself and tell him to gtfo. Poor girl is miserable.
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How lazy are you Johnny?! Just take yourself to someone instead, there are probably plenty of good tattoo artists in the SA area.
Don't you, y'know, go to a tattoo shop
to do that?
I mean, just use your gf's money, like you always do, to get tickets & 'fly out' yourself!
…Or is he not allowed to leave the house/town or something?
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Must be why he can't afford to fly out to get his tattoos fixed…
Except he's offering to fly someone IN.
I don't think money has anything to do with it. I think he's just lazy.
He made a comment on someone's artist suggestion about how the artist is always busy. He wants it done, he wants it done NOW, and he wants someone to come to him. Very typical "celebrity" tattoo attitude (except this dude's no celebrity)
God, all this "gamer gear" is so freaking tacky. >>650492
Right? Wouldn't flying someone in for tattoos be ridiculously expensive? Specially considering the need for equipment etc
Not that Taylor was ever responsible with money but this last month she is going nuts, and that's only really what we are seeing.
I just had the chance to watch all of Jonny’s stories from the past 24 hours, and holy shit, I almost feel bad for Taylor. She clearly hates being filmed and not having control over angles and such, idk how the fuck she thinks she’s cut out for Twitch unless she’s going to just be a titty streamer for money. He acts like a complete idiot in public, she looks so embarrassed to be with him. It’s one thing to be able to have fun and let loose with your SO and not care what others think, but she is clearly not in on it nor is she having fun. She’s embarrassed to be around him when he’s yelling and acting like a total moron.
I especially felt how dead she is from the one where they’re in the car. Notice how she looks completely DEAD in the eyes but the second she realized the camera was on her, she “joins” in on the moving to the music or tongue sticking out. She looks beyond fucking miserable.
And you know what, I still am incapable of actually feeling bad for her. She wanted this life, and won’t grow the balls to boot him the fuck out so she can grow up and turn her life around. The life is just slowly still being sucked out of her by him. So many people have tried to help her, and she’s shoved each and every one away.
Their relationship is so beyond fake, it’s sooo gross. So much for being total “couples goalzzz!!” After they read all these comments on her about Jonny’s storied they’ll probably start lovebombing each other so that they maintain that fake “goals” love that they just have to prove to the world. Makes me wanna vomit. They’re so fake and gross. Don’t understand why you’d wanna fuck up your life this bad and ruin your chances of ever being able to turn around. For what? A dude who acts childish, cheats on you, uses you for money, gets you addicted to heroin, and sucks the absolute life out of your soul?
Many tattoo artists are accustomed to traveling for cons and guest spots at other shops. It's more about Jonny unrealistically expecting a top artist to cancel their existing appointments at his beck and call.
Druggies aren't known for having realistic expectations.
"lost my memory card in the all the chaos of the move!"
I wonder how she thinks she'll ever do an "all my pets" video again. I'm sure there are going to be so many new animals we don't know about, and so many dead animals that she never told us died.
Easy excuse is dying from stress when they moved, stress kills many animals and it would be easy to defend.>>650557
Fewer artists fly out for one person to do in their home (yuck, so unsanitary, especially with all their animals).
I’m still stuck on the fact she is STILL getting away with lying about Cheese’s necropsy. Whoever she spoke with on the phone to “prove” it’s real, was clearly a “friend” or someone she paid to pretend to be a vets office. She straight up lied and her 12 year old fans have already all forgotten that she promised she was getting a necropsy done on him. She can’t just get away with everything forever. She can’t just pretend nothing has happened. She has to own up to her shit and grow up eventually, or she will continue to spiral downhill.
Guessing we’ll see the next video in a month from now, comments disabled and she’ll pretend nothing happened. I’m with >>650560
anon, if she does another All My Pets video (which she will because she will grow desperate to take in the $$$), there will probably be so many random new animals we’ve never seen and so many that won’t be mentioned because they’re dead. I’m sure the few of her tween stans that are left with interest in her won’t be sticking around very long after her return. It may be slow but it’s definitelty all downward from here at this rate.
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I don't think she didn't call, I think she just didn't like the answer of "your fish was too decayed and gross to necropsy, stupid," or "you killed him, moron."
Either way, we're never going to hear about it again from her.>>650722>>650723
Her editing style are a few shitty transitions, horrible music choices, some text/pic inserts, and a few animations. This doesn't take long. Either she's that fucking lazy, she's lying, or she has a very severe mental health issue that has removed all her motivation. I think it's the former two, but I'm not a psych professional.
>>"your fish was too decayed and gross to necropsy, stupid,"
Or, according to Taylor "This is the most AMAZING dead fish we've ever
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*pay our rent with Taylor’s money
"LMAO We couldn't afford to actually buy
a house WE ON TOP!!!"
What the fuck is that face he's making?
Taylor really chose a nice guy
Several Rape & Pedophilia allegations against him, AND he looks like a newborn baby with colic covered in ballpoint pen doodles?
Ohh but he has suuuuch a beyootiful voice!
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>>"from his terrible trio of psycho stalker exes"
Um… I think it's more than his 3 exes buddy.
Try the underage girls he preyed on.
Amanda has been screaming
about his abuse/rape since 2013, 4 years BEFORE the Me Too movement was ever started.
Larkin (his gf BEFORE Amanda) also spoke out about his abuse BEFORE 2014 but was called a liar bc she was also using heroin
Chelsea got back with Jonny because guess what? Emotional fucking manipulation. I guess this person doesn’t know that you can have loyalty and love for your abuser, even while/after they abuse you. It’s called being brainwashed
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Eh, at least she's not dangling it this time…
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He’s too cheap to buy his own f’n license?!
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taylor is the tackiest person to ever live. makes my skin crawl to see her pets on fake grass while their cages are full of fake plants. fake everything>>651079
this is such a ridiculous looking setup. wtf is that chair?
Johnny: flexes about the house that's 1k over their (Taylor's) budget, flexes about all the computer stuff he NEEDED, flexes about all the furniture they're buying, new, for the house, offers to fly in and pay a tattoo artist to fix up some old work.
Also Johnny: "Can I use someone else's Windows key plz???"
Ah yes, gaming where the center of your focus is… the edge of three screens. Enthusiast computers are so stupid.>>651092
A "spare windows key"? Who the fuck hoards windows 10 keys?
He also seemingly hired someone to put the computer together for him. He posted videos of him just watching someone else assemble it. Isn't that like half the fun for computer enthusiasts? Building the machine yourself? He obviously doesn't know shit about computers and just bought the most expensive elements, or the ones that people who actually
know about computers recommended to him
Yep, and he’s not even interested in learning. He really thinks he’s going to get on pc & his twitch career is going to take off with Taylor in the background somewhere.
You can almost imagine the convos with the manbaby
“I want to stream from home and make money”
“Babe, you’re a musician. I do the YouTube thing”stamps tiny foot encased in overpriced shoe
“IF YOU CAN MAKE MONEY STAYING AT HOME, SO CAN I. give me all your money, fan base, and delicious energy that I’ll use as my own to make this happen.
Is that picture of the computer set up posted on his Instagram page? Why post a screenshot to your story if you can just go and take a picture of the computer in two seconds. Unless it’s not his or the desk is already covered in their filth
i'm not even a streamer, just a viewer and gamer and even i think his set-up looks bad. every time the twitch thing comes up too, i've always said they'll be bad at it. in my view twitch falls into two categories, the streamers who are good at games (esport pros) or streamers who play games and are good at entertaining you. in this day and age, you usually have to be both or at least good at the game you're playing if it's online comp. ain't no one going to watch some bronze, low-tier gamer.
jonny actually thinking he can be successful or even make money off of twitch is hilarious.
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Thanks for clarifying, Jonny.
This looks like the type of shit old people have stapled to the ground in their front porches. I'm so embarrassed for her, thinking anything about this house is worth the price tag>>651187
>stamps tiny foot encased in overpriced shoe
Thank you anon, I cackled
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Awwww someone hurt Jonny’s feewings! I love how he has to act so big and tough and like nothing bothers him. Idk man if you feel the need to bitch on social mediaevery time someone says something you consider mean to you, you don’t have thick skin.
Notice how having an expensive rental home and a shitty girlfriend to mooch off of somehow is his redeeming quality. Lmao, what a catch Taylor. Them constantly having to spend money shows how miserable they really are.
Royalties are a tricky thing since they're all based on what you contract in the first place. Does he have streaming rights? Just royalties on record sales? Merchandise? Did you contract for royalties in perpetuity? You get the idea. Usually they're peanuts, though. Like bands will get between $0.006 and $0.0084 per song per sale or stream on an online service, which is why so many bands depend on touring to stay solvent. You're not getting much unless you're with a big-name act. I doubt very much any band he's been in has hit it big enough to net him much in royalties.
Of course I don't know what exactly he's claiming when he says "5gs." Is that $5000 a month? A year? Maybe he could be getting $5000 a year in royalties, which really isn't anything to brag about when that amounts to a thousand more than one month's rent on the fugly house you're living in.
GUYZ INPATIRNT IS SOW EXPENSIVBE. Right…
They're totally still using. I hope she gets flamed to hell in her upcoming video.
5gs in royalties annually huh. balling. taylor must be so proud.
without touring this guy doesn't make a living wage.
$5,000 for a 3 monitor computer LMFAO. People are invested in computers and it's hardware knows you can get all that for CHEAP. Jonny and everyone else who tries to flex on how expensive their rig is are dumbasses. I'll be more shocked at those that can build a $5,000 rig but cost them $1,500 total.
It'll be hilarious if he's trying to run on 4k Max and we all see his computer struggle as it tries to bottleneck everything in 3 monitors live on twitch.
Also, if you give no fucks.. then why are you crying all the time, Jonny?
>>Also, if you give no fucks.. then why are you crying all the time, Jonny?
Seriously for someone who "don't give a shit" & has such
a good life, he sure does give an obscene amount of attention to his 'haterz'…
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He has as much personality and charm as he does talent. Can’t be a successful streamer if you don’t have fans, can get your gfs fans if you have a history of treating people like shit.
I’d give him a generous 5 minutes of streaming before he’s belittling every single person in chat for god knows what ever reason.
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This is an imageboard.
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Bonus shot of her new office.
Soon like; I'm gonna upload at the end of February. Wouldn't be surprised if its at the end of April. Truly, her work ethic is pathetic.
With all the money she spends you'd think she could at least upgrade her enclosures. That tank looks like something a 5th grader put together. She's got the time and the money to make some pretty sick looking setups. Just fuckin lazy I guess.
She spends $1576.88 for an outdated desk inside her outdated home and tosses Mushu's tank with fake plants.
I wonder what goes on in her small tiny brain of hers?
Taylor and any person who buys things for the price instead of their value and/or practicality is painfully new money, that's what it is.
She's immature and financially irresponsible, with an equally immature and financially irresponsible manchild of a boyfriend. She's more blinded by how expensive something is instead of thinking it through.
People who are either born into wealth or ridiculously wealthy tend to be super lowkey about it, because they don't want to drive attention to themselves. New money people usually go for the flashy things as a way to assert themselves into the social sphere they want to be part of, aka validation. It's all so other wealthy people validate them.
Plus she thinks YouTube is an endless pit of money that'll last her totally 4eva so it's expected for her to literally blow her money on the most bizarre/tacky/useless shit she can find.
>>It's all so other wealthy people validate them.
I mean, why else
would she move into a rich neighborhood?
No, same tank. She's saying it's a new video of transporting Mushu and setting up the tank in the new house. Makes you wonder, if she's making a video specifically about transporting Mushu, does that mean she moved her after all the other animals? She left Mushu behind for a bit longer? Was Mushu stuck in a sterilite tub with no proper filtration somewhere in a closet in the old place for an extra couple weeks? And if it's a full re-setup, guessing the tank probably cycled for like all of a day before she plopped poor Mushu in. Even with pre-populated filter media, oof
Pretty much all speculation here, but that's how I'm reading the fact that she's singling out Mushu's transport from the rest and the fact that she's mentioning a process of setting up the exact same tank she's been in.
That monitor is really popular from gamers to streamers, what are you talking about?
And its 144 hz so doesn't really matter. Since 240 hz is a waste of money since the difference is so small.
This setup is not bad like everyone is saying..
But he's gonna strain his neck a lot.
My guess is that the two lower monitors is for gaming, and the one above for streaming. >>651279
His computer wont bottleneck.
I am 100% sure that someone with computer knowledge helped him pic out the computer. And if you want the newest/best then computers will be expensive. The parts are 'only' $2300. And thats really good for an extreme computer.
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Screenshot for easier viewing. There are a few insta posts with the same photo of the setup.
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You were just flexing your ugly sofa, Jonny.
Also food and drink on the cat tower? Classy, can't wait to see it become a dumping ground within a week.
They don't know how to throw away their nasty ass shit, just look at their apartment pics. She's so broken its not even funny.
TBH It's not 100% her fault but she let her life get this way, shes gotta live with her choices. Shes smart enough that she could turn it around (Dump Jonny + trashy friends, rehome animals) but she won't because deep down she's afraid of being alone.
Good job taking yet another embarrassing photo
of Taylor & posting it publicly, Jonny!
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Jonny's actual setup!
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what the hell is on that dashboard( 7.3 Milkless social media statuses and images)
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those thighs definitely look like they've blown up from january
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Continuing to downplay the fact that she was addicted to drugs to her 12 year old stans.
spends $5k+ on computer set up, doesn't buy two chairs (since it's supposedly both
of them doing twitch, I would think that would be an obvious necessity…)
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Taylor claims she bought the desk for 150
It's possible. She hasn't been a beacon of truth though.
I agree their breakup is inevitable. I wouldn't be able to look my SO with respect if they were wasting their life away with Drugs/games at 33. heck in 7 years he'll be 40 gross.
No his cpu is good, and can handle that. There's literally only a 0.9% chance his cpu will bottleneck even with three monitors.
Stop trying to trash talk his computer, its a beast.
it was posted in one of the previous threads>>651679
can we be done with the computer braggery, it's tiring
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god look at all that fuckin algae
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Jesus… she really does look horribly miserable. But I also agree with the anons pointing out, she wanted this. She doesn’t want to be saved. So many have tried to step forward and help her, almost every single person she’s associated with has spoken against Jonny. Everyone’s already said how toxic
he is for her. He’s isolated her so badly and given her the “us vs the world” attitude. She has no friends or family to really support her or care about her.
Well if you’re miserable with him, I guess buying your manlet lots of toys and excessively spending money on things you don’t need is one way to keep the peace and attempt to stay happy, isn’t it? What a shit life. All the money/easy income in the world couldn’t make me want to be prisoner to this kind of sad, shitty life.
When their relationship fails she's gonna look back at all the time she's wasted and cry.
She does seem to have an "I can fix the badboy" syndrome. Guess it kinda backfired when she got addicted to the smack.
All her animal care and hoarding is deep rooted in some psycological shit. She's trying to take care of things because "noone-was-there-to-take-care-of-me-wahh". Gotta grow up and realize nobody is gonna look after you except yourself.
he legit has the body shape of my 60 year old dad
that's fucking nasty, imagine this bloated sack rubbing up against you every night. bloody hell taylor, you can do so much better.
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This made me laugh till I peed a little.
Thank you, anon.
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This is the mother of jonnys child that hes a deadbeat to, right?
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He fancies himself a hardware engineer now?
>try to learn how "too" stream
He seriously thinks people are going to give a fuck to watch him playing video games?
And his solo stuff? I need to see how many people are actually going to watch that shit. If he's not in a band, why would anyone care? Plus he would be doing all the social media marketing all by himself. Or inb4 he buys all his followers and views. He's going to be such a failure and I'm so here for it.
It means he found a fancier case and wants that one for himself. Likely a tempered glass case that flashes colors. He’s giving Taylor this one that he has deemed unworthy. She pays for it and doesn’t even get to pick out her own case- lol.
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Taylor just posted this, how old was she in 2014?
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why does he always go back and forth between begging for shit and flexing about buying expensive shit. it's bizarre
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Do they not realize the irony or are they actually making light of the fact he's a horrible father
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Even with a shit ton of makeup and photoshop, you can still see the pick marks / scabs
Sum buddys got daddy issues…>>652182
Probably just acne, drug users definitely have terrible skin but im not seeing any scabs.
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he's had his pc for 3 days and he's already fucking with it. >>652182
she looks miserable imo
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she looks like she's in pain in this picture, like she's screaming internaly
that hand looks roooough…
I don't think we're gonna see a video anytime soon. Too much damming evidence.
Jfc… she quite literally never
looks happy. She looks so fucking dead in her eyes. It’s so scary seeing what Jonny has done to her. She has no life left in her. Is so clear she’s just going through the motions at this point. I almost feel bad for her.
But then I remember she chose him, pushed away every individual who’s ever tried to help her. Chose to defend him for the horribly human being he is, and let him enable her to be a horrible person too. She wanted this, but I’m not sure she foresaw having the life sucked out of her this bad. Everyone tried to warn and help her.
At this point I feel like everything is a cry for help. The last 10 pictures we’ve seen of her, she looks absolutely miserable. She doesn’t try to bother hiding anything. Jonny’s the one that hides things.
But even if it is a cry for help, I 100% guarantee if someone tried to help her out of this situation right now, she’d yet again push them away like she did to everyone else.
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lol what happened to “this is turning out amazing i love it” you have so much money at your disposal yet can’t find a good tattoo artist
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"Get it redone"
I'm no tattoo artist, but you'll probably need to get that lasered before anyone can improve it Taylor.
Looks bulimia cheeky to me. Unless she carries fat in her face in a real strange way.>>652245
Do people other than junkies talk about the 'ditch' of their arm? Straight question. I never heard anyone call it that until then.
No, it's the shitty snake heart>>652277
Yes, that's what that part of the arm is called lol
Kek it’s funny watching her lies slip out. Constantly lying about how happy she is, example “I love this tattoo so much I’m so happy with it!” Comes out later, “yeah it’s a bad tattoo I’m gonna cover up lolz” lmao that really is the story of her life. Lying to the world about how happy she is in her relationship, but years down the road there will probably be storytime videos about how she was so horribly manipulated.
You DO have a choice, Taylor. Gtfo and get away from him.
If she does
get out, imagine the stories she'd tell. Imagine all of the young girls she could save just by telling her story!
That's what it will turn to either way.
I do wonder how their money situation looks considering she hasn't done anything for months and views for older videos must be somewhat low.
I remember some people here stated that anatomical hearts are some kind of drug humor. (I didn't get it tbh)
Maybe she simply regrets her meaning of the tattoo? I mean she wouldnt say yeah, I don't like having a symbol for my drug habit on my arm, right?
When she first posted the linework she got a LOT of criticism about it, so she never posted a finished photo and deleted the post of the linework.
It's been ugly from the beginning, thoughts competent artist might have been able to make it nice.
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peep the caption. Apparently this is her "return to YouTube" outfit
samefag/doublepost but she legit looks like she forgot how to smile and is doing it for the first time in months. it does not reach her eyes
also her extensions are trash, do not match her hair at all, and are only going to cause more damage and hair loss in the end. she's so stupid. but now I understand why she got them, so she can feel like ~the queen of pettube~ again even though she fell from grace almost three months ago now (and hasn't posted for one-third of the past year)
It's the whole arianna grande, black culture appropriation look. It's just trendy right now, just like the whole lip filler Kardashian thing. It'll pass.
I'm guessing comments disabled in her upcoming video. Could've propelled the pet industry to higher standards of care and responsibility. Downright shame shes slipped this far.
I was thinking the same thing!! She looks like she literally forgot how to genuinely smile. Her eyes look so dead even though she’s trying to “smile”. Fuck she looks so miserable, her whole life is just this big fake show… but at least some people can pretend they’re happy and make others believe it. She’s fighting to pretend she’s ok and that she’s happy but god her attempt is awful; she looks just miserable
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Look who FINALLY decided that her axolotl needed a chiller
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Someone posted part of this story but I couldn’t tell Maui is actually in the water until I watched it myself so here’s another snippet of it.
It doesn't look too deep for them, besides, Maui's probably thrilled
to have some
hydration after all those times they've been left with a bone-dry water bowl!
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Maybe you shouldn’t let Maui in it then?? Ball pythons are not aquatic animals the heck?
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wow i hope she's not being serious? there's no way she'd be able to handle taking care of ducks. they get extremely depressed alone, she'd need at least two of them. that little pond is nowhere near large enough for just one duck, let alone two. ducks poop every 30 minutes, a nightmare if she ever brought it inside, and lets not even get started on the upkeep of the atrium. she cant even keep the water from turning green lmao.
>>652350>What is one day TND just got off social media and we can just let this thread die.
she literally can't do it, that's why she's a cow.>>652348
I don't think she's serious tbh
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Then & Now
See how much smaller the eyes on the left are? How the outer corners of the eyes wrinkle? That's a genuine smile.
On the right? Shit looks as dead as her cowfish. (Too soon?)
I can't even say yay because "too little too late" is an unbelievable understatement. I cannot believe what she's done to Mushu. The sheer fact that she's done permanent damage to an animal that can regenerate 95% of its body…
At this point, I honestly wonder if it might be more humane to consider putting Mushu down. She's got to be suffering constantly. Her gills are so shrunken, she basically has underwater severe asthma.
ok so I joined the discord and he's such a dimwit.
he doesn't know the first thing about streaming. he didn't know that subscriptions are paid on Twitch. he didn't know any streamers (people were recommending him dr disrespect and he was like dr who?). he didn't know what a fucking bot is. who even put the idea of streaming into his head? he obviously isnt into the community.
he was also talking about how his haters and psychotic exes had probably infiltrated the voice chat (you can make it require a rank to avoid randos jfc).
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which Saturday? Saturday, May 4th?
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looks like she lets her ball soak.
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this was all in the voice channel, there was bunch of people there. nothing very milky in the text, he's just flexing his pc, funko pop collection and posting selfies.
You really shouldn't let animals into these sort of water features. They aren't intended to be green, there is a chlorine like coating on the sides to prevent algae build up. Not only this but they become a breeding ground for mosquitos, parasites and harmful bacteria. Ie. swimming in poorly maintained pool and getting an ear infection.
Algae attracts bugs, bugs attract birds, bird shit in pool, parasites get in the water through shit, animal gets internal parasite. Not a good picture. What shes doing is irresponsible and idiotic. Plus shes gotta re quarantine every-time she takes em outside.
Of course it's nothing but impotent flexxing.
(Must he always
look like he's either retching or just smelled a fart?)
Yeah she definitely said there were cleaning chemicals in it because it was all bubbly like they'd added some kind of soap. I don't know enough about water features to say whether there are any animal safe chemicals to clean these things but at this point I know enough about TND to assume she didn't even bother to try to find one. >>652426
all of this, yes.
If she only takes out one or two animals a day a few hours apart I guess they might be okay on the fake grass, assuming she doesn't take anything new out there and risk spreading mites? Most bacteria would dry out in the sun with sufficient time between exposure to a new animal, but that water is a different story entirely.
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What are you talking about with the "fresh tattoo"? AFAIK her last tattoo was that Boo tattoo on her thigh.
I think Jonny only did the dog thing twice, yeah? I'm not diligent with watching his story.
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looks like he will be streaming soon
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Already trying to find a way out of the video she’s been “editing” for over a week.
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seriously, his teeth are disgusting.
in animal news, he posted pics of ghost, star and lego in the discord today.
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ease up anon, they didnt seem quite interesting enough but here you go.
14yo brian in a 33yo body. If a room reflects yourself…
Candy cereal, kek, between that drugs and no brushing no wonder his teeth went to shit.
First it was "by Saturday". Now it's "by the end of the weekend". Next it's gonna be "by Wednesday" and then again "by Saturday"
just stop, Taylor. don't talk about when you'll "definitely be done" and just DO THE WORK and let people know when it's actually ready. you would think this girl would learn after 1.5 years of lying about her schedule constantly
Looks like we can depend on Jonny to actually show
how her pets are doing. For once, I am proud of him!
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Taylor posted this video of Star (I don't have any of the video-recording apps or whatever you use to capture the videos, but it's just her petting Star's belly).
She still looks pretty overweight, even though the angle makes all kitties look chunky.
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>>"not to mention he didnt even know who taylor was."
Good to know her fans are desperately trying to discredit anyone who dares to criticize her & Jonny.
>>"So please unless you here taylor or jonny saying they did something wroung…"
lmao they never fucking do that's why people call them out in the first place!
>>" do not believe it jsut because you saw it on the internet a couple of times."
…And do not believe "Everything's fine" just because Taylor and/or Jonny says it is, because they've lied to you before, and no doubt, they'll lie to you again.
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When you've got your very young fans defending a known abuser, rapist, & child predator…
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They're stories are full of it too.
Kids/teens often see her critics as they would nagging parents, always nitpicking & trying to ruin their fun by determining what's 'safer' for them & others. Taylor definitely takes full advantage of that, especially when she mocks anyone showing concern for her animals.
Kids feel like they identify with Taylor a lot, especially since she has hit a major rebellious phase.
She's living their
fantasy right now. Moving out, buying as many animals, clothes, & toys as she wants, & can just turn around & snap "Shut up I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING!!!" at anyone who tries to remind her about reality & caution.
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Apparently it's coming out on the 13.
She looked kind of rough with some of her animals even in those 2 second clips when she was moving them so fast
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She really was jerking them around. that has got to be stressful, especially if she did multiple takes. I think part of why she moved so fast/such short clips was to keep us from seeing her bruised arms. I paused and screenshotted and you can see bruises as well as injection points. at the very bottom of the screen under her alligator tattoo you can see a very suspicious bruise right in her inner elbow
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nice kitchen counter.
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What a slob.
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What a slob pt 2
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If she promotes her boyfriend through her Youtube videos as much as she does on her Instagram, she's definitely gonna have a problem…
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The blue cases on the counter are definitely angry orchard
But they're totally sober and focusing on their health
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At least some people see that she's full of shit
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looks like there's another 12 pack of cider at the bottom of the cart near the end. if they're not shooting up (which they are, and obviously) they're drunk. I bet they're never sober for more than an hour at a time.
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Taylor claims to be completely sober yet admits to drinking… her house is covered in beer bottles that’s NOT sparingly drinking. God she’s dumb
I mean how many times has someone you known lit up a cigarette or two "…Just to calm my nerves"?
…Don't do drugs, kids.
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new tweet message imploring for support
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The twitter video
owwwwww this is gonna be cringy.
When your friends cry over your addiction in a live stream video and you come back acting like nothings wrong.
>>652757>> I'm newly 22 and figuring life out.
And there have been a ton of people who managed to figure life out in their early 20s without dating piece of shit abusive
rapists, becoming a junkie or having more pets than they can take care of properly. Your age is not an excuse, Taylor.
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Heeeere we go again!
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>>"It just helped me get off harder things and now I can focus on not drinking anything"
…Which is why you recently bought more?
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>>"they know of my ciders."
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…And of course, her stans eat it allll up!
C'mon! According to Chelsea the man cannot live
without his daily dose of Twisted Tea!
What goddamn addictions counselor is going to be like, "i totally believe you're only drinking what and how much you say, and i approve that you do so"
holy shit. she cannot be in recovery in any capacity. she has no idea what it's like at all. no one that has been would ever believe that bullshit.
I'll take that as a "Yes I do
still need my daily dose of Twisted Tea!"
>>652783>It (alcohol) is helping me get off harder things
Shes such a lowiq brainlet im pretty sure Luna is more aware of herself than Taylor is. How do you say to your young fans that you "cope
" with hard drug abuse by drinking? How do you tell anyone
that kinda dumbfuckery and not immedietly feel embarrassed.
Either way whew she really is deadset on living a messy junkie life with her bf cause she could have split ages ago and so much could have been done but instead shes on twitter saying alcohol is her little distraction from harder drugs cause thats how logic works right? spiraling queen.
you dumb bitch, "sober" does not mean drinking every couple of days. you're still consuming alcohol.
also good luck, youtube is now filled with videos about your drug binges and hoarding because you're such a liar you can't keep stories straight and people got fed up with you.
It's so incredibly toxic
that she uses alcohol, even just one bottle to calm her nerves. That very quickly gets destructive because it becomes a coping mechanism. Just like the drugs. It's a quick, easy fix that she can afford.
Taylor if you're reading this, find healthier options. Seriously. Drinking isn't a bad thing, but when you use it as a coping mechanism it is NOT a good path to go down. And for fucks sake, stop putting this shit onto social media where your underage, impressionable fans can see it.
The stupidity of this girl never ceases to amaze me.
>>652804> can afford expensive ass house> can afford to buy her manlet stupidly expensive tech> cant afford to pay for proper rehab, instead opting to return to destructive "coping mechanisms"
Truly, an icon
In other news, anyone else expecting Jonny to pull an Onision with his Discord?
It looks like they just live off of cereal too.
(tnd inserts story that shows them eating in a restaurant or take out food LOL)
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what a sob story
Tyler rugge did, a few months back in a younow stream. He said he was scared for her and started crying >>652824
It's literally so crazy to me how she exposes herself most of the time by lying or just straight up admitting stuff then trying to downplay it and lying more. She shows so much of her life when she really has no reason to she could have just filmed in her office or her animal room but she felt the need to move around the house showing how sloppy and full of alcohol it is like what in the world? Why would you ever film something with so much garbage in your background as if people won't notice? She could kick her clothes to the side and dispose of the beer cans or even just push them out the way so when she takes a selfie or films it's out of frame but she doesn't and expects people not to say anything? Does she think people don't recognize beer cans, cases, and bottles? Does she really think drinking is a better alternative to heroin as if that can't escalate as well, especially since she admits she uses it to cope. Im really starting to think she's really just is that dense or has been living under a rock her whole life.
Who wants to bet if she gets out of control with drinking she's gonna say the same thing she did about why she started heroin? "Everyone was saying this is what I do, so I thought why no be what everyone thinks?" "I have an addictive personality!!" "I was so depressed :(" like god go to therapy you literally have the money for it
He’s telling people to pop in and leave a comment on her video… so she’s not going to have comments disabled??? That is shocking if true.
That or Jonny’s just being a dumbass by speaking for her.
“My girl is currently sobbing in bed but ima just sit on Discord here and let y’all know lolz”
What a wonderful and supporting bf you have Taylor!
Yep, here we go again with the sneering and smartass replies to “defend” herself! I really didn’t realize she was this
stupid… cant be 100% sober and STILL drink… wtf??
She has not changed one bit and she is proving it all right now. When she’s caught red handed she attacks everyone on Twitter as usual. She can’t just openly admit it’s all a lie. She was never sober. I’m sure they still use, maybe less, but they’re for sure using and now replacing some of the using with alcohol.
Wonder if she’s been up all night frantically trying to edit out clips where there’s more evidence against her? Video should be out in 2 hours, right? If it’s pacific time.
Either way I’m glad people are already seeing through her bullshit. She hasn’t changed. Her return to YouTube will be nothing like she wants it to be at this rate. She’s already lying over and over again.
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The video is still theoretically coming out today. I think just under an hour until the premier time she promised?
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15 minutes ago
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Nice mustard & beer bottles on the nightstands.
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Sorry for the blurry screenshot but ugh the poor rats have zero lining in their cage and are just walking around on the wire mesh which could easily injure them.
I was gonna comment that her voice sounded weird too.
God that wig also looks horrible.
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(Original comment was about her saying electricity didn't work)
She's just blatantly lying now. She lost way more than 3 animals at her old apartment.
Taylor: “ i’m In a much better headspace now”
Also Taylor: “ I eat every meal in bed”
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Geminis enclosure "after" she fixed it up. The water bowl looks filthy and scummy.
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Not sure who's enclosure this is. 0 substrate. Not even paper towels. Sad.
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She did, back in December. I also agree that it's sketchy she never mentioned their names.
She's now arguing with comments that are calling our her bad care, honestly what a mess. >>652917
The monitors enclosure is at 8:24 I think?
i'm guessing she feels so uncomfortable around him that she waits until he is either sleeping or out of the house to film.
wouldn't be surprised if that's a big reason it takes so long for her to film.
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She had the same response to Bindi's enclosure being the same since November 2018 - it's just temporary.
Temporary meaning until they die.
Pure laziness on her part, I don't think she really cares about her animals much at this point. They're just business props and flesh toys to play with between highs.
She turning into an actual hoarder. All the trash and squalor is just disgraceful. Shes supposed to be an example to others. Only took 1 year for her life to turn into a dumpster fire.
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Her monitor is very dehydrated and underweight. It should not be wrinkly like this…
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there's still shit on the floor. who keeps that many animals in a carpeted room
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aaaaaaaand she’s still getting new animals
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From her twitter just now…. lmao
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That looks like some nasty scum in Sabor’s water bowl when she’s filling it
Omfg seriously. She's sick in the head, theres just no way she's looking after them all properly. rather than have this hoard she should stick to a couple animals she really loves. I'd say keep only Keep it down to 10.
For Taylor, seriously rethink your situation
>Animal hoarding is keeping a higher-than-usual number of animals as domestic pets without ability to properly house or care for them, while at the same time denying this inability. Compulsive hoarding can be characterized as a symptom of mental disorder rather than deliberate cruelty towards animals.
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From her instagram comments on the new frog post
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Second new animal is another tarantula.
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>I know my limit
lmao this is hysterical. TND and knowing one's limits really shouldn't be in the same sentence ever.
collections are well organized and taken care of. They're often well displayed, visually pleasing, clean and focused.
What Taylor has is a hoard. A random collection of reptiles, mammals, amphibians and aquatic life. Its dirty, unhealthy, unsafe and lack any kind of cohesion or focus.
If she'd take some time to build proper enclosures, with respect to their habitat, lifestyles ect. MABY it could be called a collection.She just gets animals because they make her feel good.
If these animals and enclosures are going to be shared through YT. There's a company in houston that does awesome vivariums, aquariums display work ect. There's absolutly no reason for the amount of resources that she has, for her displays to look like that. They're absolute crap.
I live in New Zealand where we have only 4 species of reptiles, so there isn't a huge community here and people build amazing enclosures for their reptiles.
She has no excuse living in the US. None at all. What I would give to buy the stuff they have over there. Taylor really does not care about her animals, there is so much she could do for enclosures and enrichment and yet she sticks those poor animals into whatever "looks good" with promises to upgrade them later into yet another shit enclosure. Rinse and repeat.
Ball pythons actually prefer smaller places. A hiding ball, is a happy ball. When they’re really active, they’re stressed. They do well in bigger places only if they have LOTS of clutter which we know TND is too much of a cheap ass to invest in. Think of all of the clutter and cleaning that would require. But it’s not uncommon for balls to go off feed because of being insecure in a space that’s too open / big
Colubrids (her corns/Kings/milks) do need bigger tanks. Lego, her corn, should be in at least a 40 gallon.
young balls feed off almost exclusively on small birds and chicks in the wild. Don't believe what the pet trade tells you to keep snakes in. They just want to sell you more.
Her enclosures are bare minimum at most. For someone who professes to be an educator she needs to be held to a higher standard.
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our queen is eating in bed again.>>653006
stop minimodding pls, it's more annoying than anything else. you don't have to read the posts you dont like
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No shit it's inconclusive, you thawed him out and floated him on a god damn lake… >>652967
Never going to happen lmao she's such a liar.
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Aka some animals died
OOOoooo maby a new video soon?>>653034
Def killed em off. That or the move killed em.
Im guessing It'll be a month till she posts anything else on YT. Her MO seems to be put out as little content as possible so it gets watched.
She must spend all day censoring comments because you can't find a single concern or negative response.
Wow yeah. Just watched the video and the voice change in ‘part 2’ is incredibly jarring. People weren’t exaggerating. She sounds all over the place, slurring, jumbling up her words and barely sounds like she knows what she’s talking about at some points. Really apparent baby voice. How she could go ahead and upload a video of herself sounding like this is absolutely beyond me.
Also, despite her constant mentions of not cleaning the house for the purpose of the video (why not??) you can constantly see her jolting the camera around during the house tour to avoid showing the giant piles of rubbish stacked all over the place.
The thing is, this isn’t really a criticism about her having a messy house because that’s certainly to be somewhat expected after a big move. I think it’s more that this is totally indicative of the fact that she is in way, way over her head with this new house that she (well, they) clearly cannot take care of and that this will obviously be reflected in her animal care. If she can’t take care of her home (or even hire someone to do so for her)- even to the point that she’s putting it all out there for the world to see in this big return video - how can we believe that she will be able to maintain her animals to an acceptable standard?
Genuinely shocked that this is what she deemed appropriate for her big comeback. Yikes.
I can't stand the funkos it's consumerism at its worst. Filling peoples home with crap plastic that will invariably pollute the earth. Truly the beanie babies of our generation.
Im not surprised she likes to hoard them. She just likes to BUY things, wether its animals, clothes, wigs,overpriced jewelry. Shes a hoarder in teh making.
The video cuts are just so awful and jarring>>653045
I don't mind funkos since she can't kill those unlike her poor pets.
Thank you anon for backing up the video here. Who knows, her video may mysteriously be taken down from all the “hate” on it.>>653039
A lot of people are seeing through her bullshit… but not a single negative comment in her comment section? Yeah she’s totally censoring every little negative comment. Pretty sad when you have to spend your whole day trying to hide the truth.>>653021
Well said…. I don’t know if Whatever still reads here (I assume so), but Whatever you should really make a video breaking all of these things down you’ve said. It’s insane that this girl can get away with this shit, the constant lying is horrible! Making videos will help show people who she really is, some people don’t believe what’s said until it’s properly broken down in a video.
Overall, what a horrible comeback, Taylor. They’re for sure still using and she’s killed more animals. Still the same old lying girl. She hasn’t changed one bit. If she continues like this, her comeback is just going to slip back into another blow up like there was before.
Inb4 she takes a few weeks away from social media because “muh anxiety” about the comeback and “haterz”
She’s truly getting desperate for money, I guarantee she would have went longer without posting a video if she didn’t need the money (esp since her leeching manlet can’t provide like he may have done before).
Hence why she’s also so focused on the expected views within 48 hours. You have 1.6 MILLION subs… 90k views in 8 hours? 200k within 2 days? Might be a decent amount of money but those still aren’t very good numbers.
I think she's running out of ideas. Theres only so many times you can show off your animals. It's cool the first time but every time after that meh. She should really focus on top notch displays similar to a studio or gallery.
what she's doing now will not cut it long term. people are already losing interest in pets, just look at any of the other petubers some barely manage to rake in 10k a video, if that. people are getting bored, she needs to do something new to stay relevant. Petube is dying.
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Her reason for why she sounds like a drunk idiot. Of course.
"moving disorder" Is that Taylorese for heroin withdraw?
If she can't take care of her own health how can we expect her to take care of her animals?
EXACTLY! You can’t have it all, you only get to pick one.
Either you can take care of yourself fine and therefore can take good care of your animals,
or you have a million different diseases that make muh life sooo hard and can’t handle 50+ animals.
I wouldn’t give a fuck if she was one of those people who bitches all the time, but was just responsible for herself. But when you are responsible for the well-being of like 70 pets?? You don’t get to bitch and moan. If you literally can’t handle life with that many animals because wahhh my body hurts wahhh my mental health wash etc etc, then maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t take on over 50 other creatures who depend on you? Idk just a thought. It’s excuse after excuse. She was 100% drunk or high in those clips. Not “tired”
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Friendly reminder that the same girl who posted this tweet
thought she could handle a Black throat Monitor (which would eventually weigh over 50lbs) from infancy to adulthood.
ya I don't know what she was thinking. They get huge 5ft long 50lbs PLUS if well taken care of.
Roughneck will stay smaller but he really needs a huge enclosure and water to swim in. His care is quite sad, he should live in a rain forest type enclosure with very high humidity, his lights are probably drying him out. Really not a species that will ever thrive in captivity.
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Didn't Jonny let that slip a while ago?
Friendly reminder: Taylor has a manchild that lives in her home that he call his, doesnt work, ranks up the bills, and not even help his girlfriend lift things especially knowing she's having trouble
I can just picture him in front of his pc, talking on discord about his exs while Taylor is struggling downstairs and Jonny telling her to shutup cuz she's interrupting his vc
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Taylor knows he's a bum and I don't think she really expects to get rid of him at this point. She's probably too scared to force him out. He's got her wrapped around his finger and knows how to get what he wants from her.
She'll tell herself that she wants this but she doesn't. She wanted him to turn his life around and go back to being a quasi famous pop star like hes was in early 2000's but apparently her plan backfired.
hoarder mentality, too much available money to spend on animals she either truly believes she can care for or truly believes she can hide the evidence of neglect from the internet despite years of proof she can't do either.
You can't expect TND to apply logic to her situation at this point, she wouldn't be in this mess (and we wouldn't be on thread #33) if the girl was capable of a single logical thought.
What lifestyle and fashion though? She sleeps between 10-12 hours every day and when she's awake she does nothing because Jonny is always around. He's pretty much isolated her at this point, so she wouldn't be able to at least pretend she has an amazing lifestyle or friends to share it with.
Her fashion sense is bizarre at best, and not in a good way either. She's trying to go for a street fashion baddie look and it never works. The market for "beauty and lifestyle influencers" is so oversaturated she wouldn't stand a chance. She'd actually lose the fans she has because most of them are children.
The general rule of thumb for snake enclosures is that the length + width should be at least the length of the snake. So for a six foot snake, 4'x2' would be the minimum enclosure size.
For more active species like kingsnakes I've been told you should have it be so the length alone should be at least the length of the snake.
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These are the enclosures for her new tarantula and frog. She says in the video she got them at the same time she got “duck and the scorpion” but never shared them. According to her Instagram she got Duck in August 2018 and the scorpion in October or November.
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To the anon who mentioned the LV bag, I saw it too. Here is the screen cap for the other anon.
Weren't most of her snakes in the racks? I don't think she showed them.
Generally I'm interested in how she moved all of the animals and where she actually put them because there is no way she had enough carriers.
she says, "ok, in all honesty, I really wanted the room completely clean ideally, in my vision of this video. I wanted it all nice and polished and perfect for the video….It's like 2AM, I can't keep doing this. For the rest of this video, it's gonna be dirty. You guys will have to see, ANOTHER you know, like I said, all my animals video, for the big reveal of the clean cages and everything…we are gonna through the cages because I did wanna show a before and after of the animal room."
UMMM. Wasn't the big reveal supposed to be this, Taylor?? Wasn't this your comeback? I think she just really wanted to release something because everyone here it would be monthsss until she did - so she did it just because? to prove us wrong? because someone who really would want to do a comeback the right way, would actually clean up, and do a legit before and after video. You wouldnt' have to say, "you guys will HAVE to see ANOTHER video."
ALSO: She could have done a, "organize my pet room with me" or something, and could have filmed herself putting all that shit on the floor away.
And I can see why she is filming at 2am: HIGH and/or Johnny is not there.
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did anyone see this yet? she claims she got this new frog 4 months ago but should we even believe her?
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Poor pup looks scared
Right??! That was the first thing that I thought when I saw that. Part of the reason moving with so many animals is hard is having to keep check of where things belong and not let it touch other stuff, I see she just gave up on that idea lol
Better hope none of them had parasites you didn't notice, Taylor.
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all that space in that new house and shes still keeping her snakes in a snake rack, almost makes me think shes saving all that room for more animals….
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I thought that too, but you can clearly see in the video that the pile of hides and wood is new. It's not supplies she had to take out of the enclosures for the move. It's brand new stuff that she just got from a petco and tried to pass it off as supplies her animals have always had.. The hides and wood still have the tags on if you pause the video.
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it could be a mix of old and new?
she's a slob, so wouldn't put it past her to do that.
Not surprising, I think we were all surprised she kept them alive for more than a month to begin with.
The whole 'downsizing' her collection thing also makes me laugh - it's such a careful choice of word that makes it sound intentional but we all know the animals probably died.
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Aka "Can't wait to buy more animals and add to my hoard"
Those are the two crested gecko tanks and she shows one of the cresties, Echo, in the comeback video.
I didn’t see any sign of the crabs or the satanics in the video
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According to Taylor in this story, one of Jonny's friends brought their dog over…
Into the atrium it goes!
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How the FUCK did you just move in, yet already have so many massive piles of clothing all over???
I can't tell in these images but is the green tree python really gone? I watched the video. Aren't GTP's usually always
hanging on their branches? Like, they don't burrow, or hide? I don't think? She really would fake them still being in there or something.
I don't know what heroin is like but when you're high does it make things seem better than they are? Because who in their right mind would show their house and animal cages appearing like that? Everyone on social media polishes things to make them appear better than they are when they post things. She seems to do the complete opposite???
if youre isolated from everything long enough you start to think your normal. she probably sees nothing wrong with her messy house and animal care because she is literally out of touch with reality.
i also think shes really broke the way they are going through money and with the cost of heroin these days.
i HIGHLY doubt this is a rent to own situation. i do real estate and that buying situation is rarely advised.
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So the new pet she mentioned getting is another tarantula, how long has it been since we’ve seen the other one?
excellent point! I suspected it was new or at least unused because she didn't seem sure what she was going to use in each tank, she acted like she was deciding as she went. >>653427
Really hope she doesn't get poison frogs. They're low maintenance compared to some of her other pets, but they really benefit from a bioactive vivarium. She can't even manage live plants in a single other enclosure, and I don't think she's even had a planted aquarium. No way is she going to manage to keep plants alive for poison frogs, let alone properly manage springtail and isopod populations.
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Yeah, I'm calling bullshit. You smoked heroin with your boyfriend as far back as December 2017, Taylor.
wait what timeline is she trying to sell here? Does she forget she told us all she had issues with heroin before Jonny? Is the "friend" supposed to be Bree at that con they were all at? Because I'm guessing Taylor still forgets that all of that was made public, was about coke not heroin, and it's already out that Taylor both brought the drugs and mocked Bree for not knowing what to do with them or whatever? Also where does Jonny's so called sobriety fit in here, Taylor? Everyone already knows he got kicked out of the band for HIS issues.
This whole "sympathetic animal mom with chronic pain gets led down the path of drugs by a 'friend' and wants to help other addicts now" is a nice narrative… except that your entire life is already online and we know not a word you said there is true, Taylor.
Not good that she can't even remember the name of the clinic and has to correct herself. makes it seem like she hasn't been in a while.
also, she was "working up to vivitrol" three months ago. she's still using, in the past 10 days. she didn't get "dead clean" before moving in, since they've lived there for 14 days and she still isn't able to get vivitrol.
This all just sounds like something Jonny made her to write to shift the blame away from him tbh. maybe she/he checked here after she posted the video and got upset.
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It’s funny you say this because I just found this screenshot from the end of January where she claims she’s done bioactive before and I forgot to post it.
>>"Also where does Jonny's so called sobriety fit in here, Taylor? Everyone already knows he got kicked out of the band for HIS issues. "
At this point, she's proving Colin right about how she
was the one causing Jonny to relapse repeatedly.
Ya she's been doing heroin this whole time. As soon as Jonny came in it started. She's trying play the victim
card now because her lifestyle is threatened and people are waking up to her shit.
Shes got a vote on twitter to see what she should do.
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>>"My desire to turn the nightmare into a way to help others"
AKA "My Pettube channel might
fail & I still
need money you guys!"
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Looks like Taylor might be copying Jonny's model of 'Sobriety'
I don't think her ego can handle the truth. She's acting like life is this big movie that she's the star of, now shes just waiting for her redemption arc. She's immature and naive, If she does make a video I don't think its gonna go as smooth as she plans. That's career suicide imo.
She desperately wants the whole jonny relationship to work out. She seriously wants to have children and a family with this manlet. Without him shes got nothing just her animals and a big empty house. He's just gonna keep bumming and using, in 7 years hes 40 and shes 29. 7 christmases you really think hes gonna turn around in that time?
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It's still there anon
“My animals were always cared for”
“I have such an amazing support system that got me out of such a dark place”
Umm… if you actually had a support system that helped you, you wouldn’t be in a relationship with Jonny Craig. EVERYONE you know including your own so called friends and family has outed him as a toxic
, manipulative person. So no hunny, you aren’t out of this “dark place” you love to talk about so much for sympathy.
I can’t believe she has the audacity to say her animals were always cared for while she was “taking time for herself”… so what about when your addicted was completely spiraled out of control, BEFORE the so called “support system” came into the picture? Is that when you killed 12 pets in a month? Is that when the water bowls were completely dry, cages empty with nothing but bedding?
The fact that this girl just continues to lie, lie, and lie never ceases to amaze me. She is pushing to hard to make everyone believe this fairytale picture she is painting, like she was lost and then her Prince Charming Jonny saved her and now she’s all better :) In reality, this comeback has done nothing but prove she hasn’t changed at all. I’m fact, I’m shocked she came back as sloppy as she did - I thought she’d of course keep using and drinking, but she’d be more careful about what she shows. But nope, she’s completely showing her lies once again, and that she’s still the same manipulative person.
This shit only works so long on tweens. Her career is slowly dying. Her life has become such a shit life that she has to pretend to the world that it’s so wonderful. Yikes
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>>"EVERYONE you know including your own so called friends and family has outed him as a toxic and abusive, manipulative person."
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Incoming twitter feed spam with more details
Yeah, how fucking romantic
They loved each other so
much that they needed drugs to escape one-another!
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"…I was sobbing while putting the drug in me…"
Sound familiar anyone?
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Man, forget Jonny, Taylor + her poor fans are the real abusive
relationship going on here!
So much manipulation!
This bitch has seen too many disney movies and soap-operas romanticizing the turnaround junkie. Bitch needs to WAKE UP and get her ass in rehab seriously.
Better people with worse problems than your own die from this shit or struggle for years afterwards. Nobody fucking cares about your sheltered upper-middleclass-suburban-upbringing. You've had it very easy.
Nobody wants to hear a using junkie give a pep talk. Justifying your heroin use because you were depressed?!? SERIOUSLY??!
This is all just one big cry for help, family should just force her into rehab. Shes going off the rails and the ending doesn't look good.
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This is on Instagram, she posted the same thing there as well.
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Oh Taytay still trying to find a way to blame the band?
She never learns…
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they couldn't get clean long enough (9 days) for vivitrol.
also by saying jonny went through rehab too, she's admitting her lie right there. if he wasn't using why would he go and why take subuxone for no reason? ffs.
Yeah, if he wasn't
using, then why the hell did they both
'check themselves in' like Taylor just said?
This shit just don't add up.
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She's really going off on IG responding to tons of comments right now. Still pulling the "they said I was so I might as well become an addict" story.
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This girl is clearly not sober. People need to wake up and smell the bullshit.
>>"taylor is trying to say jonny was sober and then relapsed again because she started using."
…And by saying that she just proves that she's literally the worst person for him and they should not be together at all
I totally forgot about that… they were making it out to be that Taylor was clean and Jonny was the one who relapsed or whatever, so she told him to come home from tour to help him get clean.
Now Jonny was somehow the clean one who encouraged her
to get clean?
Lmao she really can’t keep up with her lies
She'll never be clean in that house. She's got low self-esteem and no internal validation. She's gotta work through that shit herself and find some other hobbies and do more with her life.
The lying is getting ridiculoso. So many conflicting stories, she can't be trusted at all. She made some poor poor choices and now shes got to accept the consequences.
If only Colin would spill the beans…
This girl is gonna kill Jonny & eventually herself too.
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Says she's been open about it for months, even though she denied having a problem for years and publicly always talks about her addiction as if it's some other random health issue.
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Her bragging about using "the strongest type" is like when she tried to shame Bree for not knowing how to cut a line of coke. Does she think this makes her look good?
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I also have a hard time believing that the same guy in these texts was the one trying SO hard to get her clean…
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"She didn't even know how to cut a line of cocaine. and was surprised it made her nose tingle."
~Taylor Nicole Dean
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not to derail the current topic of her addiction posts but just found this video of the atrium encountering hail. with the types of storms that are happening in SA rn, i wouldnt be surprised by a few broken windows cuz of that atrium.
Didn't she say that she already had a broken window from a recent storm? i wonder how long it'll take them to fix that lmao
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New assistant lies Taylor?
you can't "innocently" use heroin like what is she on about? that is this fucking sob story she's conjured that takes blame off her heroin addict boyfriend who has NEVER been sober and puts it all on this mysterious "friend". i didn't even bother reading more because holy shit. take some accountability. it was the FRIEND that offered it and it was her ADDICTIVE PERSONALITY that made her keep using! what a load of shit.
taylor legit just can't say she fucked up and got addicted to heroin. she just can't even type out of the words "it was offered, i wanted it so i accepted" followed by "i got addicted to it, that's my fault for using in the first place".
this is no one's fault but your own, taylor. not this "friend", not your "addictive personality". hell not even your rapist gremlin boyfriend unless he held you down and injected the needle himself - which by the way, he's done before. take some responsibility for your actions and fuck ups and learn some damn humility.
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I was curious about her socialblade stats for twitter, because I know damn well if I was still following her, this sort of tirade would have made me unfollow kek
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this. he had his setup updated yesterday
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Literally yesterday lmao(cowtipping)
"my animals did basically have temporary homes"
literally 2 sentences later:
"Instead of moving them to a new home and stressing them"
So its NOT a temporary home. Same shitty enclosures, same "dangerous electricity" she neglected them straight up. Betsy was there to clean her house not care for her animals.
I highly doubt there was any kind of primary or supplementary care given to her animals while she was smacked out.
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She’s staking the TND tea page
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do you think she's somehow trying to hint that it was Bree? who is she talking about lol
one more pic below, I scrolled through a bunch of her twitter replies and none of them say anything about vivitrol. she's lurking and answering our speculation
"I never knew it would turn into what it did"
You claim to have an addictive personality and never knew using addictive substances would lead you to becoming… addicted… right..
I do. Which is completely fucked up. She knows that everyone will immediately think of Bree since she already blamed her for her “relapse” earlier.
I’m sure Jonny made her say that it wasn’t him who got her hooked and that he was actually sober and she made him relapse. Okay, Taylor. Sure. Your longtime junkie of a boyfriend isn’t who introduced you to his drug of choice and he’s the one who actually saved you from addiction. Alright, Jonny.
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omg now she's switched to subtweeting the PetTubers, what is she doing
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Trying to make the band look like the bad guys again?
Does she ever fucking learn?
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anyone wanna bet she actually does it?
Taylor out here saying what we already knew about her Pettube 'friends'…
They were always
in it for the clout!
And when shit got rough they all bailed!
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She’s trying to guilt trip people who don’t agree with her new Instagram post
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Some people aren’t drinking the kool aid in her comments
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At first I was confused that she’s leaving some negative instagram comments up but I think based on her replies to them she’s leaving them up as proof of “mean bullies hating on her” to show her fans
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Didn’t she claim when she tried to throw Bree under the bus that she had struggled with cocaine addiction in the past? But now it “ended up at drugs at the end of 21”???
Ya her friends were there for her she just ignored them and their concerns.>>653659
Lets be real here. Her drug addiction and animal hoarding are both the same issue. If she's ever gonna get clean shes gotta get rid of some animals first. It's some interrelated mental shit. She gets a high off her animals because they give her mental stimulation just like a drug. There are longtime recreational drug users who have the self control to know when to stop. She apparently doesn't have this control and needs to make some serious lifestyle changes. Dump jonnny, rehome animals, get a sleep schedule, excersise, eat healthier. The path shes on shes gonna be dead.
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“Relapse is inevitable.” Seriously she is still using or planning on it. No one serious about recovery has the mindset of “relapse is inevitable.” She’s already creating an excuse to use.
BAD BAD attitude to have. She doesn't want to get better. Addiction is a choice, not a disease. If she doesn't have the self control to stop herself, shes gotta remove herself from that environment and people who'd encourage her to use. I wonder who's supplying her with her drugs? cough
Jonny cough cough
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“The mean haters made me use!!!”
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We’ve officially graduated from pet “educator” to sobriety coach. By your one and only, Taylor Nicole Dean. Hey, instead of using H just use some pain pills. And loads of alcohol.