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now shut up
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How intense do you think the proliferation of TRA ideology has gotten to the mainstream where you live?
For me personally, I think in the US it is very present possibly more than anywhere else in the world thanks to social media and Biden's administration enabling their delusions. He recently hired some strange looking non binary troon as Department Of Energy Head and he has that Chris Chan looking tranny in another high spot.
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anyway have this specimen of nightmares to rest your eyes upon
there seems to be a gap between the terminally online people who copy everything from the internet and the regular folks.
troons have some media power here but on other hand transitioning is a long and kinda difficult process which means that people just can't go and become a troon on a whim which means while there is many of them in certain spaces there isn't too much of them. by kinda difficult i mean that because you have to prove that you're not too mentally ill to transition but because most troons are head cases they don't get the permission to start hormones and they lose their shit about it. if you don't seem like a complete freak it's rather straight foward and even then they make mistakes and there is a growing detransition community here which has made the doctors be more careful.
the tras try to get these laws changed but because we tend to do things later than the rest of the world our politicians have been basically just pushing those decisions later and later, like some law change proposition about self id has been on the parliament for a long ass time but they just don't do anything about it but just keep pushing it away, and the tras have noticed it and are angry about it.
so troonism has gained some media power but not that much of it compared to other countries
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Facebook AGP telling a woman who is uncomfortable with her boyfriend interacting with many OnlyFans creators (most of the accounts he follows are porn stars) that she isn't allowed to feel upset. These faggots are so fucking transparent. Ladies, never date a porn addict. They're worthless.
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I was just going to post about him.
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anyone want to tell him, he's not the ""lesbian"" she's referring to?
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i want you to notice
My first exposure to trans was in fandom drama communities in the 00’s. Some of the worst wankers trooned out to live out their gay HP or LotR buttsex fanfiction in real life. Even back then it stood out to me how everyone tiptoed around the ridiculousness of these women suddenly declaring themselves men but ripped the same women apart for everything else they did. You would get instantly permabanned for ‘misgendering’.>>1441604
Sounds like my country though I’ve encountered several troons who’ve fully legally transitioned despite openly being batshit insane, including with diagnosed personality disorders. They whine about having to get a year’s worth of therapy before being eligible for surgery (and hormones?) but I’ve never heard of anyone being disqualified as a result of something unearthed during that therapy. It’s all affirmation, they just have to wait a bit. Still they call it conversion therapy and insist that it’s literally killing them.
In middle and eastern Europe it's not so crazy, gay marriage isn't legal in most countries here anyway (which is a shame). Troons will appear on trashy TV channels such as RTL, but I have seen maybe one trans person irl while walking through Vienna. There was a shitty politician who transed and said the best part about being a woman is shopping, gross.
You can't make the languages here gender neutral as a lot of them have gendered verbs + 5 to 8 declinations but there's been some really shitty attempts. I don't think slavic people will ever accept trannies since western gender stereotypes don't exist here, women are expected to be mentally tough and fight for themselves, and even fought in ww2.
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"Carefully wording sentences" is the best that many people can do. They're trying to avoid the gender subject entirely so as not to hurt their fee-fees. I see it as a genuine effort to not "misgender." (Pardon blog, but I do this a lot at school.) You can't misgender if you don't gender. But of course
it's not good enough.
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The first four star female admiral who only transitioned a few years ago :) anyone else think this guy is fucking scary? Watching any video of them speaking and immediate red flags. I feel like this person is gonna get arrested for owning CP at some point(emote)
He means uteruses anon
They want your reproductive system for a kink
aren’t those all the tifs and handmaidens though who are like ‘shdisbdj totally!!1! i’ll give u my organs i don’t want them’ or something
my lord they’re dumb
Hellscape for me in woke-Ireland unfortunately, they're quite powerful here but you wouldn't realise it unless you were following every change in the law, since its never publicised. Shitshow. War on lesbians and women, plain and simple. My mother called me a bigot for feeling terrible for a local lesbian who had her tits removed, none
of the men get surgery here. I hate it so, so much.
because we all know theyre … special
and not in a good way
but people don’t want to say it
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blocks your path
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but wait there's more!
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God these things are ugly
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Oof, this dude claims to be 29. Why do AGPs age like milk? The only explanation I can come up with is that most of them are sedentary and eat like shit, but I feel like there's gotta be more to it than that. I've known plenty of lazy moids that live on McDonald's and still look their age.
It's because men age like milk, see: https://elifesciences.org/articles/63425
What you're observing is man dressed like a woman effect, which partially removes all the cultural accommodations we make for male aging. That immediately reveals how fucking old they look compared to their female peers. It's why twinkhons are a thing, as in whenever a twink becomes a woman he transitions immediately into a post-menopausal one.
Dress him like a man and everyone will think he looks his age or even younger due to penile affirmative action.
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And the more you try, the more inferior you look to real women. A grotesque knock-off may fool someone on its own, but not while standing next to the original.
Moids used to cope with not being women via compensatory distancing from femininity, and it was actually your best option. At least you could sometimes convince yourselves that you didn't want to be us anyway, despite building your entire lives around beta orbiting anything female-related. But as soon as you got the idea that you should actually attempt to act on your inferiority complex, it became disastrously obvious that you simply can't
, no matter how much you want to. It looks like something completely beyond your reach, your ultimate defeat. Not a choice, but simple inability to fashion a turd into a diamond.
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1/2 Troon veterans have come up in previous threads, but it absolutely baffles me that taxpayers are footing the bill for surgeons to perform orchiectomies and FFS on troon vets who are clearly mentally ill while vets with PTSD struggle just to obtain referrals to qualified mental health specialists.
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holy shit Vogons irl
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Lord he eminds me of that creepy rat fuck in Harry Potter
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And here I was thinking Chris Chan was the only troon with bent duck syndrome.
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more like reality
They absolutely do. Someone on kf noticed that most troons have "Chad" facial genetics and the thought hasn't left me ever since. Female troons are all hyper feminine cherub faced childbearing hips straight women, while male troons are hypermasculine ogres.
Also, he's not balding like he's 59 kek. He's balding like he's 30ish, he's just blond so he looks balder.
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this is so delusional
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Please do not ban me for not uploading the actual video idk why it won't go through but what the fuck is wrong with this tiktok male….
"I wish I was cis because i feel like i've missed out cause i don't experience discharge and i feel like i could've done something special with that"https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdBrNG3m/
Imagine this faggot running in front of you on a busy sidewalk, only to turn around and lisp at you "I'm one of you!!!", while flashing his ~painted nails~. Funny how the least preferrable types of men decide to become women isn't it.
His stupid "disarming" way of speaking is the cherry on top. Fuck off.
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sophie from mars got this hilarious tattoo. The dick and balls look so fake. It's almost as if they wouldn't fit on a female body.
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She deleted after the troons came for her
Those are easy to answer questions tho. >A boy asked her how he can have a baby
"You can have a baby with a woman once you are grown up. It takes both a man and a woman together to make a baby."
how the fuck is that terf
-y? we truly live in hell
ot but i work with kids (3-4 years of age) and we have a large collection of different books
inevitably there's some trans propaganda in there and i've tried to do my part by putting those on the high shelves where the kids can't reach them
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>>1442257> Is this actually part of the school curriculum now?
Yes literally, and most parents don’t know about it nor can they opt out because it’s not a “sex ed” class but something else coded as an effort for diversity or something like that. The teachers can teach this stuff to little kids through reading books aloud to them like I Am Jazz, etc.
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Gender expression is when running and spelling.
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ding ding ding
they obviously dont "feel like women on the inside"
so they believe terfs shouldn't have access to birth control? that's usually how pcos is treated
they're sounding more and more like fundamentalist christians every day
Enlighten me what would happening to these people if we would live in a matriarchy then?
no changing of legal sex, no hormones or surgeries for chlildren, no access to women-exclusive spaces or participation in women-exclusive events or sports
it's that simple
I'm just autistic>>1442332
Only for MTF or also for FTM?
>>1442337>We live in a patriarchy, this is what we got.
Yes I know that but how should it be according to you, like >>1442332
So tifs should have excess to men rest and changing rooms?
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I see … that I have no thanks for all my fighting because I was born a racoon
I wish you good luck on your political endeavors anyway Nonita, tho I have to say they will most likely infertile ones.>>1442348>I'm just waiting for the normie men to get sick of this shit
Your waiting for reinforcement from the normies will be in vain nonnie
. They're lemmings and not made to rebel.(sage)
This shit has taken off because it’s mostly men in positions of power and in control of the law. They only got their total position control by oppressing literally everyone else (not allowing woman in office for a long time, not hiring certain people due to racism & sexism & homophobia) which they enforced through violence & religion originally, & then just hiring people like them over & over. This meant they could ignore the concerns of women & others & enforce shit that purely benefits men (indulge in degen coom shit, treat women as just small men in medicine, etc). That’s why back when women and black people had their movements in America, shit wasn’t pushed harshly down from the top, they weren’t the majority of institutional control. Now since Hollywood/ the US makes most English media & most sites being US run, the US is able to export all of it’s bullshit everywhere else. Men reee about diversity hiring, but this is why it was implemented, to combat the control of the one group of the whole system so they didn’t only fulfill their own desires & fuck everyone else over for it, it was just too late. It was done after coomers tried to push their shit as the same as being gay & succeeded.
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Now he needs to get himself some smurf essence.
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KEK no fucking way ugliest mf I've seen in a long time. gargamel looking ass lmao.
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Gargamel needs to chill
my flight or fight instinct
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I love you, nonnie
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So he wears skirts and bras because it makes his penis get hard and not because he actually believes he is a woman - wow who would have thought ?!?
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i found the cervixthief guy's tweet on the wayback machine and their bio says they're 14, so they've still got a good chance of growing out of it. i also found the account of their partner who's been shitting up this thread but i won't post them here bc they're obviously a kid kek. if you guys are still reading this please get off lolcow/4chan and go be kids, play outside or something
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Troons pulling down their pants to show each others axe wounds, what a heartwarming story.
So we have entered the phase where these moids want to deny women medical treatment unless they agree troons are women. >>1442269
It's 2022 and there are still women defending AGPs. Can anyone like explain why…? Of course she peaked but I'm baffled women still support these men.
So we have entered the phase where these moids want to deny women medical treatment unless they agree troons are women. >>1442269
It's 2022 and there are still women defending AGPs. Can anyone like explain why…? Of course she peaked but I'm baffled women still support these men.
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Troons are fucking retarded.
they call themselves "women" but get angry when they are grouped under women?
And then it turned out they all went to the same surgeon.
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Gender Identity shit was created by John Money, a literal pedo who molested twin boys (one of them had a birth defect). The two brothers would later commit suicide- the brother with the birth defect was the one to first go, but the later brother would feature in a documentary to shine light on John Money and his only wish was to stop this twisted man and his ideas.
Seeing this shit is more unsettling to me than it is funny. No amount of "le clown world frog" is going to help me cope with how horrifying it is that blatant child abuse is allowed to run free in public schools no less. I can't imagine how the parents who are aware are feeling right now and how justifyingly paranoid they are.
Even if you don't care about kids, we can all agree that having a future filled with nothing but mentally unstable adults isn't a good one to have. Imagine if you're in a hospital and you die because there's too many staff members having mental breakdowns or some shit you get the idea.
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It's hard for me to mock Sophie from Mars when nature already did it for me. Look at the absolute fucking state of it.
idk about what the exact case in America is like but sadly this has been a thing in Sweden since the early 2010's, we have pre-school children having read to them books like the "a boy who became a princess" and other books about "gender expression" that are basically trans-bullshit and the worst fact is that even trying to oppose this type of shit you get labeled a bigot and fascist and could very well be shunned from your entire community with that label attached to you
so there's not much anything anyone can do
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Here's a list of all the statements that will get you branded as a ebil TERF
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I s2g this will be a mass peaking event
Show this to literally ANY normie and they will agree with all of these statements. I guess anyone who is not a troon is a TERF
He's an autist so if he troons out we all know why. If anything, I think it would be much more likely to call himself asexual or x-gender and then literally nothing would change. Luckily even the most degenerate autismos in Japan rarely troon out. The batshit ones you occasionally hear about online are almost always westaboos with a gaggle of Tokyo language school weebs from California acting as their hype guys. Or ABJs.
Much more common (comparatively) are crossdressers who will freely admit that they are men and never insert themselves into women only spaces. Even Matsuko Deluxe corrects people who try to call him a woman.
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Shut the fuck up, these are all human beings they are not fictional characters you can headcanon for your fetish. also the fact that its an AGP TIM wrote this post is telling
TRAs do this to every smaller/thinner guy and every woman who isn't white and even slightly GNC
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further TIM cope and justification
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THE QRTs ARE ALSO JUST AS BAD>“I bet she pegs him” “need me a manly woman like her” “he’s gonna transition to a transgirl once his marvel contract is up uwu” "Tom is zendayas girlfriend"
just gross racist and fetishistic all over, I’m SICK
I mean 90% of people I saw who were defending the post were white and asian TIMs
but I find it weird how often they see a woman whose dressed down and wearing casual clothing their minds just jump to "headcannoning" her as their femdom mommy wommy
I mean like every woman occasionally dresses down from time to time, esplicially if it's with a partner who they trust intimately
It's fascinating how it turned into sexism with extra levels. Meanwhile bearded men in diapers still have to be called women.
In the early 2000s the standards for "transexuals" were through the roof, there was that MTV show "I want a famous face" where a porn actor troon called Gia wanted to look like Pamela Anderson and to this day I have no idea what he did with his voice, they were pushing for hardcore passing only.
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There's also this white TIF handmaiden defending against woke twitter teens who can't call them out for the degenerate prevents they are https://twitter.com/blotchkat/status/1487492821632356359
even woke twitter girls can see how offensive this shit is
This is one manic moid. His crazy eyes, fake overly wide smile, and spastic jerky movements trigger
my fight or fight response.
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well this one is an Asian TIM defending the post, but yeah its mostly white TIMs and many white TIFs defending that post which is filled with vile fetishistic comments, a lot of woke girls(many black) are trying to point that out but also still trying to be respectful towards the TIMs/TIFs otherwise they'd be labeled TERFs
also >Fucking let trans fems have one crumb of fun
this is all a dumb game for them https://twitter.com/ChaosIsMel/status/1487480290402390018
Game I play = my personality
Super hardcore popular dark game = more personality
Anyone trans is a product of peak consumerism. The TV taught them blue = boy, pink = girl and that's how they're trying to construct their whole personality.
They know they aren’t women more than anyone else. >>1442564
I hope this guy gets maimed severely and has to live like that forever. Death would be too good.
I had some libfem friends have told me, that since I' am tall and have a big nose that must mean I should sympathize with TIMs cause I surely must suffer from mis-gendering
the thing is even when people don't correctly guess my gender the first-time, as soon as they see my face for a couple seconds or hear my voice, I know that they know that I am a woman
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On the opposite end of this reality with regards to Tom Holland, while he is a short male with somewhat of a baby face, he has a body that only a biological male can posses
no TIF in the world can have the same body structure and musculature he has
also it’s like 500% easier for males to be ripped overall compared to women
both tifs and tims are delusional about what they actually look like
they imagine themselves as these short soft boys or tall statuesque women but nothing could be further from the truth
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The man that told Chibi “I’d prefer if you’d be quiet” during the Tomba speedrun is now trans.
why are speedrunners all trooning out?
is it because of the autism required to play one game over and over to improve your time by 0.01 seconds?
As funny as that would be, this is not true at all, CavemanDCJ dropped the monikor and goes by Unifiedbranding https://twitter.com/UnifiedBranding
Some tranny swiped @CavemanDCJ on twitter and made it a tranny jokehttps://twitter.com/iongravirei/status/1398621074925948928
This is a now privated tweet where he asked people to report the old account, you can get the context from the replies.https://twitter.com/UnifiedBranding/status/1408868502883164163?s=19
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your post reminded me of this AGP fantasy comic
they basically see all tall or even slightly masculine women as pseduo-males, not real women rather mommy doms who will take time to feminize them and peg them, fulfilling their AGP fantasy and desires
what caping have black women done? if anything its white radlibs doing all the push and piggybacking for trannies yet they don't get treated as bad as black women
blacks as a community have a huge disdain against anything LGBT related to this day, why do you assume or say black women are at the forefront of the tra movement? not to start a race debate but be real with yourself please
look at the "black" trans lives matter protests, did you see any black female activists come out in support
the transmeds who use black women's bodies as justification for their sick fetishes, same as women with pcos, infertile women, any other colored women as well use these women as gotcha cards to give grounds for their opinion
Then do you say that about them? That its their fault for "caping" for trannies?
They're just easier prey>you deserve it because you asked for it
It's funny because there's an entire rash of conservative scrotes who say feminists (and women as a whole) "deserve" the TRA/tranny shit because they lobbied for women's rights and upset the "balance" of gender in the first place, but the same person who posted what you just quoted would probably get mad at such a statement
Some kinds of people follow shitty, victim
-blaming logic selectively. When they themselves are included, it's bad. When it's a group they're not a part of, it's perfectly fine, even if we're all women. It's fucked
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You know it just occurred to me that the reason this is being allowed to happen might be that the men who run the legal system think castration is a fitting (funny) punishment for offenders. Completely ignoring women's safety, but they hate women too. I wouldn't put it past them to not have looked into whether or not getting the chop factors into transition. Normie dudes seem more almost as clueless as children about troons. They think in cartoon logic. probably think they could get pregnant if they got kicked in the balls hard enough.>>1442957>feminists (and women as a whole) "deserve" the TRA/tranny shit because they lobbied for women's rights
I hate it when people say that. Few things piss me off more than someone hearing about an issue they've been doing fuck all about and blaming the people who are fighting their asses off to stop it. As if the people saying troonerism sucks were the same people who were doing fun feminism a decade ago. The majority of people who hate gender shit have always hated it. Before I gave a shit about troon politics, I still found the bastardization of feminism on the internet obvious and hideous. The faux activism and obsession with identity politics over class, the eyeliner as sharp enough to kill a man!
bullshit that was clearly marketed to part girls from their money and distract them from liberation.
I'm sorry for black women who get that treatment. Regardless of race, The megaphone is going to be given to the idiots who say the right thing
, so it's easy to say "(type of person) has always supported this." I don't think that was the point that >>1442788
was making (I think they were clumsily trying to say that they supported black women, but "these" ones were stupid for supporting troons). I've always admired black women's strength in defending their right to define themselves as women. Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie will probably never be heard of in the mainstream again after standing up for women (unless she's being dragged) but I'll never forget what she did.
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I don't think he's feminine either but he is a little short and he does have a cute face, I feel like If he wanted too be could be more rugged looking but he seems confident in himself unlike tims/tifs
In fact his build and frame for his height is quite impressive, he's built like a boulder and he has the same proportions as someone like Mike Tyson or Naim Suleymanoglu, a proper punch from Tom could knock someone into next Sunday and his forearms are also well developed, his grip strength would be impressive as well
Tom Holland could beat all these twitter tranny's at once, if he wanted too
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he wouldnt even look out of place as a chav and these people think he is a uwu femboy
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His response here is interesting. Does he feel actual remorse? It's hard to tell underneath the spiritual mumbo jumbo.
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saged for autism but i wish it wasnt like this, i dont know what it is that attracts them so much to this series but i want them out
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This is what men really want
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>>1443060>He was a Lunar sign as opposed to the rest of his family, including his sister who were Solar Signs.>Assigned the role of Lunar Priest, which is a female role - Also the Lunar Priest doesn't get to interact with people.
This is why scrotes think he's female.>Also physically deformed, ie not a giant and has tentacle feet like the other mutant royal that lives in the painting.>Pretends to be his Older Sister, to lure men into doing his bidding because men live by their dicks and will do anything a giant pair of tits tells them to do.>Literally lives in the basement and spergs out if you come into his room.
Jump forward to Dark Souls 3.>Gets his shit kicked in.>Held hostage by a coomer cannibal priest>Gets absorbed and the priest is wearing his pretty face and using what's left of his body to coom and kill.
There's not a lot to unpack with this character but people rather make shit up than go by what little is actually in the game.>>1443108
There's trannies in DBZ? When did this happen?
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TERFs are canon in elden ring
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they have already sadly, I genuinely loved the game growing up but I can't stand the "fandom" filled with TIMs and a smaller number of TIFs
worst: affluent liberal areas, big cities
still okay: rural areas mostly. or the conservative parts of the south
Most troonery: California
Least troonery: Mississippi
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I saw this one on the other farms and it pissed me off more than usual
I'm like 95% sure this was made by a terf
to show that our fact-based "opinions" are decried as dogwhistles, thereby showing how illogical trans ideology is
a key part of being educated and intelligent is the embrace of the idea that people can live the way they want so long as they don't break the law. academia teaches tolerance which, sadly, many people lack on this issue.>>1443217
i never said anything of the sort but thanks for displaying not only your transphobia but also your racism.(do you know where you are)
dilate dilate dilate tranny
you will never be a real woman
Gwindolyn was designed to 'have the body of a 10 year old girl' according to its designer, he even adjusted the head size to be more appealing to Japanese incels. Then there's the lore of him impersonating a goddess. Are you shocked troons flock to the character?
Outside of him, most female Dark Souls characters are what troons would find sexy, which is child-faced, 'pure', submissive. They don't pay attention to the ones they call 'hags'.
AGP troons also love hard games and speedruns and all that crap.
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same guy lmao it's already over he's picked up the classic tranny begging strategy. speaking of check out #transcrowdfund on twitter if you want to die instantly
Gwindolyn was designed to 'have the body of a 10 year old girl' according to its designer, he even adjusted the head size to be more appealing to Japanese incels. Then there's the lore of him impersonating a goddess. Are you shocked troons flock to the character?
Outside of him, most female Dark Souls characters are what troons would find sexy, which is child-faced, 'pure', submissive, with a few badass ones they can self insert as. They don't pay attention to the ones they call 'hags'.
AGP troons also love hard games and speedruns and all that stuff also.
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i love the "muh high IQ" autism cope, especially when it comes out of the mouths of either the most greasy, gnarliest neckbeard ogre ever or parched bucktoothed sewer rat
pic rel this musteline creature appears in a cloud of skin flakes to loom over you while bragging about their mensa membership. pure pottery.
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sage for slight a-log but im so fucking sick of troon petras’s coom-fodder being praised as art. His album that came out this week has ‘slut’ in the title and all of the content is just blatant misogyny disguised at ‘uwu bimbo empowerment’. He is the only human being to have willingly produced an entire album with alleged rapist Dr. Luke, while actual women including those he has sexually assaulted are still being forced into 10 year contracts. No actual woman would be this traitorous to other women.
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>A Scottish man who repeatedly sexually assaulted a woman has been jailed for 23 months for his crime.
>Laura Miller, a biological male who identifies as "gender neutral," was sentenced at Inverness Sheriff Court in Scotland on February 11 after pleading guilty to the charge of sexual assault on the day his trial was set to begin.
>On at least one occasion, Miller filmed himself while he was assaulting the woman. In the video, he is described as being seen "removing [his] victim’s clothing, exposing her private parts and touching [her] breasts." He is also making vulgar sexual remarks of an offensive nature towards her
Moids stay coping with aging like dogs.
Daily reminder that you can't possibly age better if you're designed to die earlier. Any geroscientist will tell you this.
A diseased male on hormones doesn't even age better than normie males, let alone women.
Literal acromegaly. MTF troonacy = hypermasculinity.>>1443042
Ah yes, "biohacker". When being a tranny bombs and you try to find another cope for your moid feelings of mortality.
thought this part was hilarious.>During a meeting which took place that month, Pipitone asked Beck point-blank to identify his sex. She responded, “You’re male,” to which Pipitone replied by accusing Beck of violence.
what a little bitch boy.
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They're always racist as fuck and don't even realize it.
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This is what he looks like btw
I would love to know what is not biologically the same? What started this bullshit?!
Are they seriously referring to skin colour? If so, why aren’t other people of colour in this delusion? I’m pretty enraged and confused by this shit
Ah yes, non black people… well known for their impartial, fair judgements about black people
Tranny racism is unbelievable, they really have the gall to use black people as their woke cred 'gotcha' while overtly insulting black women (and assuming everyone else feels the same way about them) in the same breath.
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>>1443469>Black women are not biologically the same as other women.
I really want to know how troons even come up with this bullshit.
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I want to add on this, in my country dark skinned people are associated with meekness and slavery, dark skin is not associated with anything remotely masculine
If your light-skinned or have certain asian features that means your ancestors were either Turkic or arayn conquerors who subjugated and enslaved the native dark skinned inhabitants and its not un-true either, the original darker-skinned dravadian of Indian were conquered by the Aryans who completely wiped them out in the north and the Turkic peoples raided and subjugated the descendants of the aryans
Not sure about that anon but according to this study Mexican-American men actually have more testosterone than either black and white men.
>Contrary to the postulated racial difference, testosterone concentrations did not differ notably between black and white men. However, blacks had higher estradiol levels. Mexican-Americans had higher testosterone than whites but similar estradiol and SHBG concentrations. Given these findings, it may be equally if not more important to investigate estradiol as testosterone in relation to diseases with racial disparity.https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2519/2598282
I think it's lifestyle factors.
Your research paper is comparing data between women in late stage reproduction phase with lifestyle and BMI differences (reportedly the African-American female group has higher rates of smoking and higher risk of obesity) while another paper (https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/10/3199/2834917
) shows the inverse pattern is observed within a study that doesn't use smokers or women with BMIs over 30, unlike your study. But obviously since AA women tend to have higher BMI and more unhealthy lifestyles this will affect their hormone profile more than the ones with controlled BMI and non-smoker backgrounds. This just means it's something lifestyle based and not genetic or hardwired in the DNA like the troons are arguing though.>>1443669
Even from the research paper that concludes aa women do have higher testosterone than ca women it's higher by a few decimals not the rates of which men have higher testosterone (270-1070 ng/dL).
you're using "asians" (all the studies of measuring ethnicity differences in sex hormones have used Asian Americans and South Asian men from the UK, lmao), "whites" (White Americans), and "blacks" (Black Americans) as some kind of unifying category for all others who fit this definition per American cultural views of race despite the studies focusing nearly exclusively on people who live in the US.
Not everyone comes from the same environmental or genetic background just because they wind up grouped in the same categories per the U.S definition of race.
You're saying "asians are shorter than white people on average" to argue that other anon but there are white countries that have a shorter height than some asian countries.
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Big legs, long hair, a filter, and a dress doesn't make you a woman. I swear, it's so offensive how they make the argument of how "see I'm such a bimbo tee hee" to argue how they're totally women lol
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since when do femboys identify as trans? this gets more and more confusing
then you should know your southern neighbors who are known for being manlets can be even shorter than an average asian height lmao
>No useful information could ever be gathered by grouping people by race because what if one African in Nigeria is different?!?!
Why should African Americans who have unique environmental factors and 20 to 30% european dna on average be used as a representative of non racially admixed Nigerians or South africans? just curious what bullshit reason you'll come with this one lol
Just to clarify that situation: the media spun it as banning women. Iirc the actual situation was about people with intersex conditions (has a vagina and testicles) competing as women, especially if they didn't have it in their medical record. There was also the case of Russian women being pushed into using testosterone as doping to achieve higher results and it had horrible effects on their bodies if you look into that.
As always, a lot of trannies co-opt the struggles of intersex people and women.
>>1443743>African Americans have more genetic markers in common with Africans than with white Europeans
Objectively false, they inherit from both sides and levels of admixture depend on the state they come from and their family. Some can be as high as half European without seeing a full blooded white ancestor in centuries. I remember seeing a chart about genetic markers using different ethnicity averages as a basis and they're in the middle but have a lot of similarities with East Africans (who are anciently admixed with Eurasian) but ironically your type argues East africans are actually caucasian for some reason lmao>I'm sorry you don't understand how statistic works and that "WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO IS DIFFERENT?!"
Except you wouldn't allow a racially admixed white person to be counted as the same with white europeans so there's no reason a racially admixed black person should be used as the same with black africans, who are more diverse group than white europeans and have very diverse genetic markers.
>but I can't replace this clear lack of education through comments on an online gossip board.
Ironic because you think your stats from pol and half assed looking at research papers, ignoring stuff that contradicts your little factoids is "educated" when it's far from kek!(race sperging and derailing)
Some do (who I think, overlap a lot with current troons) say wm are less masculine than bm which is probably why a lot of transgenders in the US are so confident they can pass compared to black or latina women who they think don't fit conventional beauty standards in a similar vein as them for being biologically male. I think this logic is probably more slightly popular (I say slightly because I truthfully don't notice it outside of North America or countries that imported a bit of North American racial politics) in more progressive leftist countries? I don't think Russian and Italian men consider themselves less masculine than black men.
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Reposting this because it got ignored in the previous thread but this is still pretty horrifying.
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Not really milk but seeing a Troon in a photo shoot with all women always makes me giggle
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They're all wastes of the Y Chromosome trying to skinwalk the worst of the X Chromosome.>>1443718>If they're attracted to you, they're gay.
I don't understand the kick these twinks get of that.They wear the most fetishist clothing, then they purposely conceal all their features, then photoshop, then edit and if a scrote thinks it's a female for 2 seconds, they apparently "win". This is exactly why these guys get beaten to death.>>1443765
Speaking of skinwalking, that character he's supposed to be looks familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it. I tried Akinator but without more information it pulls comic book characters. >Power-puff girls shirt>Shitty home depo projector you're not supposed to point directly at yourself.>Blacked out teeth and camera angles that invoke a horror movie.
I should turn on the sound but I think I'll pass.>>1443792
They hate all women, but they especially hate black women. Especially black female athletes. "HOW DARE THAT WOMAN HAVE BETTER MUSCLES THAN ME, SHE MUST BE A MAN"
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This might be just a joke for him but it’s still weird as hell, who even thinks like this? I hate that we’ve had tiny bins in our toilet stalls since forever with no problems but now it’s like… can we get bins which aren’t accessible? Because I legit don’t trust these freaks.
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anyway new specimen
yes? northern italians are italian too nonnie
kek if you want to single out one ethnic group say southern italians (even then there are "white" looking southern italians) or meditarraneans or something. also plenty of swiss people are literally italian. but i digress(derailing)
It's called context anon, obviously I'm not referring to those who you know are genetically similar to the group being compared to. Also being "white looking" isn't actually relevant, unless you think genetics are just looks (which would be retarded, I'm not saying you do)>but i digress
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You're right anon, should've ignored the obvious scrote bait. Here's a spot of troon self-awareness
This comic has been posted a couple times but it still always makes my eyes roll, they woman basically does all the work "feminizing" the guy without any effort on his part
Its like TIMs expect women to do it for them
Ignore the male. Y motoids leave when they realize that this website isn't filled with women getting in line to be in his imaginary harem.>>1443816
Is that a lesbian flag? This kind of men are the ones who flood lesbian spaces with their retarded shit. Disgusting.
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I have to agree. Honestly kf and lc are very similar, this site just (thankfully) has less moids with a boner for racism and misogyny. Both are people spending a lot of time laughing at cows, which may or may not be cow behaviour in itself. I do not really know kf deeply though, I have never made an actual account there.
Probs a repost image for tax, but goddamn that grandpas face
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>>1443882>a ton of shit gets crossposted on both sides it's very obvious there are many people using them interchangeably.
Half the thread images came from the KF thread.>>1443888>If you only knew how bad it really was
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My issue with KF is that it's mostly scrotes, pick mes and "based self-hating" /pol/tard trannies (some of which are actual moderators), and they can't integrate for shit. Even if content is crossposted, anyone who unironically gets mad enough to defend Null's shithole has obviously been there too long IMO
Anyway, more tranny comic cringe
>>1443850> I'm afraid that i'm just lying to myself
It's ok, Timmy, all trannies are lying to themselves after all.>>1443743 >I'm sorry you don't understand how statistic works and that "WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO IS DIFFERENT?!" is not an argument against global averages
There's a huge difference between saying "cats aren't quadrupeds because I have three-legged cat" and correctly pointing out that you shouldn't act like all felines are fatty persian cats. And lmao at her recognizing that the risk of Tay-sachs is specific to ashkenazim instead of all jews, what a hypocrite.
> I'm afraid that i'm just lying to myself
It's ok, Timmy, all trannies are lying to themselves after all.>>1443743
>I'm sorry you don't understand how statistic works and that "WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO IS DIFFERENT?!" is not an argument against global averages
There's a huge difference between saying "cats aren't quadrupeds because I have three-legged cat" and correctly pointing out that you shouldn't act like all felines are fatty persian cats. And lmao at her recognizing that the risk of Tay-sachs is specific to ashkenazim instead of all jews, what a hypocrite retard.
>I'm afraid that i'm just lying to myself
It's ok, Timmy, all trannies are lying to themselves after all.
>I'm sorry you don't understand how statistic works and that "WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO IS DIFFERENT?!" is not an argument against global averages
There's a huge difference between saying "cats aren't quadrupeds because I have three-legged cat" and correctly pointing out that you shouldn't act like all felines are fatty persian cats. And lmao at her recognizing that the risk of Tay-sachs is specific to ashkenazim instead of all jews, what a hypocrite retard.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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>Damn, you wanna start this up again? Ok let's fucking go.
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whenever I need a laff I just sort troon selfie subreddits by controversial
Couldn't even wait for his father to kick it
Oh no, he had to disgrace his family in the last months of his father's life instead, let him did heartbroken
It's the tranny way
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what did i tell you. he doesn't regret at all!
I’d have to agree with you on that nonnie
. I’ve been around both sites for years. Kiwi farms is so into their hivemind that sharing a different opinion sets them off and they’ll screech bloody murder kek. I’ve casually trolled some threads with unpopular opinions and it’s so hilarious.
For some reason, TONS of troons and other extremist woke people are teachers!
Confusing kids and indoctrinating them from a young age
Also happens to be the source of "you are nothing but a vag" troon chimpouts. If troons were anything but their dicks (and the repulsive taboo of fucking a dickgirl), men would still want them after shitwound surgery.
Projection really is how all moids cope, isn't it?
I know surgery is "cirurgia" in Portuguese and "cirugía" in Spanish, so I get where it maybe came from.
Also what the fuck with all these repeated posts today? Did the DDOS tranny put on his programmer socks again?
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You're right anon, it's a goldmine.
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It fascinates me to see the poses they make. Most of them try to mimick teenage girl selfies. This one made me laugh. Its like emo skater girl on the bottom and a 40yearold accountant lady on the top
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Dresses are what REAL WOMEN wear, duh. Are you a man? You wear a shirt to the doctor? Cis girls really do pass worse, huh. Can't pass if you aren't in a dress like a lady.
It’s really English that mutated the word into “surgery,” it’s from Latin chirurgia (via French) and in most Latin-derived languages it still looks more like the original
But anyway the amount of troons who think that uterus transplants is already creepy, but this guy also apparently thinks that a transplant would give him the complex hormonal balance that causes menstrual cycles. None of them bother to learn even the basics of how the female body works before claiming they’re “women”
It's a man and will go away if you ignore him. He literally got mad I told people not to reply to scrotie because he thrives off the attention. Don't engage.>>1444094
Based. Even intersex people who have xy chromosomes but have uterus and vaginas can't menustrate.
of this is happening because people will bend over backwards so much to avoid upsetting white men. The fact that they’re white men in dresses is irrelevant.
troons claim they get periods from taking the same dose of estrogen over and over
meanwhile actual women have fluctuating estrogen, progesterone and lh levels
in china they tried it with rats
to sustain a pregnancy they had to sew the male rat with the transplant to a pregnant female rat and even then only 3% or something of the offspring lived
Once that happens people will finally peak once and for all, right?
Nah j/k, they'll probably wait 3 years until people get more desensitized and cover up their true intentions in a self pitying, faux compassionate tone to pull on the heartstrungs of boxheads like they always do.
First the Nazis did it and it failed miserably.
Then some scrotes stitched a male mouse to a female mouse to make sure it survived the faux-pregnancy.
Doing something every biologist could tell you is a waste of study resources should be scrutinized harder.
This topic made me realize that even in advanced sci fi scenarios you can't perform an ideal transition. You would have to change the body on a cellular level, change your DNA, and that would probably be easier to achieve by growing a whole new body from 0 and after that's achieved you have to question if that's still you or just a copy of memories placed in a new body.
In theory you just need to get the right hormones to the right place at the right time to ovulate/carry a pregnancy so if you could create some sort of artificial pituitary/hypothalamus (think of the artificial pancreases they have for people with diabetes) and get good at transplanting the organs in. You would have to override the bodies natural hormones so probably would need to irridiate your real pituitary/hypothalmus too.
Like unlikely in our lifetime but not impossible in like medicine terms.
I can see it happening in the not too far off future.
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“how can i make this about me”
Not this fucking shit again.
God damn it , black women do not have high levels of testosterone comparable to a man ever!! Thinking black women are unfuckable and having a porn addiction to fantasizing about black men's bbc and "hypermasculinity" doesn't make them on the same level of men!
I really fucking hate American scrotes and trannies.
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Trannies ALWAYS have to bring Caster into the argument and if they're not talking about Caster, they're insulting black women.>Commission finds Semenya to be an intersex at birth, assigned female.>Has more male features, but has chosen to live as a woman.>Testosterone is too high to qualify as living as a woman and female sports.
>>1443226>people can live the way they want to>so long as they dont break the law
kek, outstanded that you have come up with an even more bafflingly moronic version of libertarianism. do you actually have an intellectual impairment anon? i hesitate to call you a dribbling retard because it seems like there really is something wrong with you.
always awestruck by the mental prowess of self described educated-and-intelligent tranny cultists. no words for this tier of banal stupidity.
that doesn’t discount the fact that male bodies are quite literally not equipped to do that, like even with the hormones their bodies cannot regulate it properly and it would kill them
also according to the study it was to see the effect of what pregnant blood does or how it works
but even then in humans, males cannot touch blood from a pregnant woman or one that was recently pregnant as it’s horribly toxic
to them and lethal
They really need to stop grouping black women together with cross-dressing white men indulging in a misogyny fetish to make their struggles seem more "valid
". I really hope more black women speak up against this.
also you can’t apply that to pre existing organs in a body that we all have and can mimic
males don’t come with the dna and or biological parts to carry a pregnancy, so what is there for it to mimic? the baby is gonna come out deformed if it makes it that far, like refer to the comic the nona did in the last thread for this
i’m sorry i just get kinda annoyed when people say ‘in the near future’ when it’s playing into tranny wishes and kind of going along with what they want but cannot have
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>>1444027> Lookin big bro
I mean if they are transplanting the ovaries they would inherently have eggs inside them which would have functional DNA.
You then just need hormones to target the reproductive organs in the right quantaties and timings and that would work, it wouldn't matter that the rest of the body has xy dna.
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I bring this Brazilian troon that got a job as a professor and teaches dressed like this. His twitter is pure agp coom autism and I didn't even open the youtube channel.
Twitter bio says: "Non-binary transwoman, genderfuild (catgirl = femboy), ace, maid, communist, science sharer (youtube Make Science BR), biologist and palentologist."
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same nonna you replied to here, sorry, am i misunderstanding? it seems i’m getting like two very different messages from this board sometimes like
it goes from no matter what no they can’t have babies the biology doesn’t add up here’s the proof
then to actually yes it’s possible here’s how and i’m getting mixed messages but the thought of pregnant trannies or males makes very extremely ill
thing is, I hate the idea of trans people harvesting female parts for their fetish/mental illness. Even if it is given with "consent" I rather them work around it within their own body altering instead of stealing other peoples parts and sex cells.
Artificial hormone control system + ovarian and uterine organs grown and implanted. let them enjoy the risked of child birth if they want, might reduce the burden of reproduction on us, if scotes actually started to understand the shit involved with it up-heaving your life.
that being said, organoid development got a long way to go before we get it to the actual functional organ stage.
this is so awful I had to pause several times just to make it through
this is literally worse than nails on a chalkboard for me
high doubt because not even some intersex people with the correct organs can get pregnant no matter what they do
it does highkey seem like you want it to happen though not trying to sound snarky
OOP same nonna again now i get it haha i’m just a dumbass
that comic haunts me
where the FUCK are those parts gonna go when they have no space in their bodies at all or anything to hold it up with
even with somehow growing their own where would it go
Here's why so many trannies think black women are men:
1) back in the 2000s, internet racial anthropology and radical white supremacy movements were gaining a lot of steam on messageboards which overlapped with a lot of gaming and anime communities starting around either the late late 2000s or early 2010s.
2) oftentimes during these discussions (whether overly from racialist websites or not) the beauty of other races would come up as well as pseudo scientific measurements about the masculinity or femininity of certain races which were fueled by popular dating website statistics and hypothetical research papers.
3) these men would virulently hate black women and take a sadistic pleasure in bashing them. oftentimes they considered black men more masculine and attractive than them so they were both envious and hateful towards them at the same time. they considered east asian women the most feminine of them all and fetishized them and white women were also feminine (except when they were being compared to east asian women to bash all western women)
4) many of this stuff got seeped into the internet if you were in more nerdier or niche circles, point blank. a lot of trannies expose themselves as having former nazi incel roots when they use this logic to justify their warped ideas of masculinity and femininity.
there's also a bit of the logic in mainstream us media of course not as autistically detailed as what the internet says but the reinforcing tropes both on a socially and media level are observed
well its not just the artificial womb thing in the long run. the womb is just the organ to help keep things contained and reduce your risk of bleeding out once the parasitic placenta rips a chuck out of you once it detaches.
The important bit will be the artificial hormone crap and the systems that work with it. oh and a functioning artificial ovary to grow the eggs in. Cause turning the stem cell into female sex cells thing still requires a functioning ovarian system. We have only really gotten half baked useless attempts at it so far cause the ovarian organiods that we can grow arn't proper functioning organs just shitty lumps of goo.
The biggest hurdle is not the womb, its the understanding of the hormone system (and the multiple systems it affects and works with) and being able to mimic it correctly.
which honestly we are no where close to.
You dont. Don't get into arguments. Just say "Black women are women. Trans women are men. And you are a racist."
Dont let them drag you into some stupid argument about it. That's what they want.
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1/2 found a new awful subreddit
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No, white men love to call black women they don't like a man.
Republicans called Michelle Obama a trans women.
Serena Williams got called 'manly' a lot.
Troons are using that same playbook.
I still think the horny oversexualized schtick is a cope and most of them can no longer feel arousal. Just look at Kim’s lyrics, they’re so oddly rote and clinical. They’re pornsick for sure, but there’s nothing sexy
about them since they lack any passion or mystery. It’s how a coomer who is numb from the waist down THINKS a hot bimbo would feel. Because yeah, most men aren’t looking for a barely convincing simulacrum of a woman. They’re either straight and prefer (real) pussies, or gay and prefer (real) dicks.
I was the anon that preferred ectopic pregnancy at best. I rather they just figure out mimicking the hormone shit and letting it implant in their abdominal cavity and they run the gambit of the…
-die and bleed out by accident placenta detachment
-they survive with half their organs cut out too remove the placenta so it doesn't rot and kill them off with sepsiss after its melded with their other organs.
moid skin stretches like ours does. so you can shove shit in there. holding stuff up and blood supply would be the real issue. I'm not well versed on whether they have the same ligaments we have to hold up the womb during pregnancy if we did figure out the artificial womb bullcrap to get around the ecoptpic pregnancy.
But long run wise, when it comes down to it.. even with the what ifs of science advancement they would still be horrible crippled for life with a much greater risk of death.
They are never gonna get their dream real working womb and pussy.
They at best might sacrifice their bodies to try and grow a fetus in some attempt at a functioning womb and have it cut out of them afterwards. They ARE already keen on getting their dicks flayed and shoved into their taint so I doubt it would stop them from more pointless self destructive bullshit in the name of mental illness.
And really its just speculative bullshit at best atm since we haven't got enough of an understanding to even grow organiods into a functioning structure with a proper blood supply and all that jazz yet.
crowdfunding posts set off the kill bill siren in my head. I don't know what's wrong with me. I think I got MKUltra'd to start chimping out when I see internet scams.
it's possibly the least retarded thing about that cap, but seeing "curvy" spelt "curvey" is really rustling my jimmies. And he wrote "horney" in the first one you posted. They're so dumb.
Get the dumbest and most unfunny perverts and add them to the Woman Category. Bringing men's hateful stereotypes about us to life!
good and fair explanation. as far as i know, no they don’t have the ligaments that we do and their body cavity is way to narrow to hold our organs properly without it potentially hemorrhaging or falling in on itself
i also do think they would 99% die or be handicapped for the rest of their life at the end of the day the odds are against them and they’ll kill themselves in the process
Troons are racist. If you go onto /lgbt/ or any of their vc chat shitholes that are anonymous all they do is insult black women. They have to keep up the pretense of being anti-racist in public to have one of their greatest gotchas, the Trans Day of Remembrance and 'trans women like me are murdered for existing'. Black, indigenous and SEA troons do get killed via deranged moids in hookups and relationships, prostitution, drugs, etc., so the same /must/ apply to the vast majority of American white and East Asian am-holes making 500k a year who never even go NEAR men.
I've never seen an AGP be attacked in public, ever, meanwhile Twitter acts as if Larry Wachowski is a real candidate for a victim of 'cis violence', KEK. Even Stefonknee and Wi Spa troon was barely criticized in public, let alone attacked. I know why… many moids sympathize with or coddle these creatures, it's a kind of fetishism they like (compared against homos, who make them murderous).
In reality black troons only overlap with one demographic as far as murder is concerned (whose deaths are actually higher when you compute it)… effeminate black men. But they stay LETTING white troons do this bullshit because they love browbeating black women also.
I'm used to homosexual transexual trannies here but I really hope these agp cooker get hatecrimed as hard as the other trannies do
i think so too, different anon btw. but i seriously don’t see it happening i feel like this shit will have been falling in the ground (as it is failing now as we speak) or we’ll be nuked by the time we even advance that far in science
i think it’s just wishful thinking for troons, there was a thread on kf i went into a hot minute ago that explained a lot of why it wouldn’t work as it was under the srs horror thing or whatever and it was somewhat informative or, some of the entries were there … not all
i have seen SO many troons proudly admit on twitter that they used to be rabid incels/just your average hateful moids shitting up the internet with their barely functional brains. Think about the shit they're into. They're all socially inept computer geeks.
They're not even especially racist over the average man (lower empathy + more power = more likely to make convenient assumptions about What You Are being better than What Everyone Else Is) but the lack of social skills makes them fucking loud about it.
And I don't mean "oh he didn't mean it! he just didn't know!" I mean that I don't think that idiot would have said that if he realized how hilariously racist it sounds because he's trying to fit in with a group who would shun him for that.
A lot of men get dangerously butthurt if you tell them they're wrong. They want to look capable and intelligent, and they convince themselves that they ARE instead of trying to learn anything. So they get up on their soapboxes and shart out the first idea they've had on a topic after only just having encountered said topic for the first time in their lives. Which is how "huh. black women not the same as white women. me not the same as white women. me must be like black women" comes about imo
as an aside, I've never come to loathe any group of people more as I find out about them. Except for one.
Except that Chinese scientists could only get a 3% fetal survival rate when they tried that with male rats even when they had the male rat sharing its circulatory system with a female rat
. Male pregnancy does not work.
For the other nonnie
: some XY intersex people can and do give birth (note there are different types of DSDs that give you a female phenotype with XY). The chromosomes don’t matter so much as how you developed as a fetus. XY Females with Swyer Syndrome have given birth, although it’s difficult I believe. I think there was one case of CAIS successful pregnancy as well but that was an exception.
(When TRAs go on about “aktually chromosomes don’t matter that’s just fourth grade biology they are partially right about that fact
, but they are depending on the fact that most people don’t know that much about biology and will not realize that the fact is meaningless. You can be an XY female or an XX male due to genetic errors, but that fact has nothing to do with trans people and does not mean that “sex is a spectrum” or whatever bullshit they are pushing. It just means that genes end up on the wrong chromosomes sometimes)
“The only reason this guy is dead is because he doesn’t have a head anymore, if we got him a new head and attached it it would be problem solved basically”
Artificial hormones can barely do their job well when it’s basic shit like insulin, and you think we could come up something that functions as a whole-ass artificial pituitary gland?
Are you a troon? I have only ever heard delusions like this coming from AGPs who decide after ten minutes of Reddit “research” that they’ll be able to live out their pregnancy fetish any day now
This is likely it. Using TWAW is just a convenient excuse to express the racism they already have in their hearts.
They know that, on average, bw have way
less tolerance for their bullshit and they resent the shit out of them for it.
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some more TIM/TIF retardation/cope on this post, also it was genuinely upsetting me seeing so many TIFs defending TIMs
Well with the narrow bit its more a problem with giving birth. That just wont happen. Its cut it out or nothing for them. No birth canal nothing zip.
But having space to fit it in the cavity is fine since its mostly skin and stuff holding in the abdominal stuff. it stretches. just gotta pump them with the right hormones to loosen the muscles like it does with us.
Its the hormones and how it interacts with our other systems that is the real thing that is next to impossible at this stage. We don't even know enough about FEMALE pregnancy to map that shit out properly atm.
The increased blood flow, the loosening of muscles, the organs getting shoved into our lungs, the suppressed immune system and how it functions… the list goes on.
There are so many changes that are needed to happen to a females body to facilitate healthy fetal development. Mimicking artificially is a pretty big stretch atm.
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worst one imo
imagine being this porn brain rotted
This is so fucking retarded, no one has ever doubted the womanhood of middle eastern women, they get otherized and feitshized like asian women, but their womanhood has never been questioned
as for bw, If black women weren't considered real women, they wouldn't have been raped en-masse by arab and later white slave masters, there bodies wouldn't have been used as test subjects for new medical techniques that cost them their lives
One of the reasons is the transgender law center's advice for getting voters on their side
>Most effective message at moving voters away from opposition sports policies and towards supporting transgender student athletes, as well as driving enthusiasm to join together with others to create change.
Here is the dialogue they suggest to achieve this goal:
>Whether we are Black, white or brown, Native or newcomer, transgender or not, we want the freedom to be ourselves. But some people try to get and hold onto power by putting us in boxes based on what we look like, where we’re from, or our genders. We see this in how schools tell Black kids how to keep their hair or send girls home for the clothes they wear. And in how certain politicians exploit lack of familiarity with transgender people, excluding trans kids from healthcare, school, or sports. They stoke fear so we turn against some group instead of demanding what our families need.By joining together, we can make this a place where we are all free to thrive and support each other for who we are
There was another extremely damning report that I can't find atm where a bunch of lawyers from the biggest lawfirm in the UK put their heads together to try to make the public pro-troon, and their plan was basically that if you convince white liberals that troons are the same as black people, those white liberals were more sympathetic to the cause. Also that any troon thing (argument or a proposed law) must be tacked onto another cultural group's issue. Otherwise it looks insubstantial and people get suspicious about how it just looks like a big goofy fetish.
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Northern European and Medditeran women have roughly equal amount of body hair growth, Mediterraneans and the Middle Easterners often have darker hair than Northern Europeans. This leads people to think of them as “hairier” although they often aren’t. I see this in my family. My cousin is quite hairy but her hair is blond, therefore you have to look real close to see it. My other cousin is overall less hairy but these few hairs are brown. so they are more visible
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proportionally the strongest and tallest women in the world are also from northern europe, hell most Scandinavian women are taller and hairier then most men in africa and asia, but no one denies their womanhood
You could just have saged nonna, but yeah the race speging is always dumb, I'm from a country with barely any white people and most of the TIMs here are HSTS trannies who have their own set of issues
yes the wokies here have adopted rhetoric from the america and it all always ends up awful sounding
the main problem would be connecting it up imo not the space.
Space wise the way room is made for the uterus to expand for fetal development is simply our organs being shoved up further into our abdominal area into our lungs and we just gotta deal with our digestive track and ability to breath being compromised. Its not that we have that much extra space. Just our muscles and ligaments are softened from hormones to facilitate crushing them up into our upper half. I'm sure moid organs are not extra delicate and cant handle a bit of squishing like ours goes thru.
And the concept of the artificial womb (cause I refuse to think about them stealing our organs to feed their self destructive fetish/mental illness) is purely speculation on my part. It is just there to reduce the organ lose/bleeding to death in minutes/sepsis that ectopic pregnacy would incur if we DID somehow manage to get the artificial hormone balances and the systems it affects down pat.
In my speculative scenario the artificial womb would have to be at a point of development that its cultured into a fully structured organ so the blood vessels, tissue structure and what not is where its meant to be to actually keep it alive and function is all there. And even then its only really there to contain the fetus and provide a buffer to stop the placenta fucking up the miod in a super life threatening way.
Shoving that shit in their would be fine enough. Its connecting it to the blood supply and nerve system that would be tricky. Nerve system especially so if we want it to work in harmony with the other abdominal muscles to ensure contractions after the baby is cut out of them to reduce the the chances of them bleeding out. And as I stated before ligaments to hold it in place. the uterus has two main ligaments that work in tandem with the pelvic floor that anchor it in place then soften and loosen when we get pregnant so the uterus can grow and push the rest of our stuff out of the way and when the pregnancy hormones wear off they contract back and help bring our uterus back into our pelvis area where it contracts into a fist shaped organ.
Honestly there is so much convoluted stuff our reproductive system needs to do, the most I can think an artificial one will be able to do is be a meat bag with reduced chances of rotting in them and playing a protective buffer to stop the placenta consuming their organs. Having it function like an actual female reproductive system would require rebuilding the miod on a cellular level.
not true at all, being called masculine is one of the most common insults aimed at black women, and it comes from many sides not just one race or one gender that perpetuates it. the "black femininity movement" which some black women youtubers base their whole platforms on was made because of this very thing. to say that a small little irrelevant group like white troons made it up is laughable ignorance.
i think what happened is that they are aware this is a thing and use it for their own agenda. literally all of these "oppressed groups" like to compare racism to transphobia, fatphobia etc.
Yeah I think one of the reasons black women make them seethe is the same reason women in general do, which is that they unconsciously expect women to support and care for them and play the mommy role the troons have assigned them to, and then rage when women don’t.
When males reject them it’s less of a narc injury because it’s expected. But women exist to support and validate them so it fully triggers
the narc rage when a woman disobeys. Especially when she’s “one of them” like Rowling for example.
Black women as part of the rainbow coalition and so they are supposed to look up to male troons all dewy-eyed and accept them as fellow victims
of the patriarchy, and when they don’t the troons seethe. That and all the other racism stuff lmao.
as someone who once thought this way: find cases of women being oppressed not on the basis of their ""gender"" but their sex. just taking a moment to realize that i myself wasn't abused because i was a woman, but because i was female, helped me immensely.
also, ask her why she feels that way. ask her what forms of oppression she's seen towards trans women that aren't merely "misgendering" (don't say "merely" but y'know).
much like the nona’s comic from before they’d have to sit around all day because no, they would be unable to
way too delicate and no way for their lower halves to move
agreed it’s all speculation and so convoluted it’s not funny
it’s like the ultimate reach
technically yes. They would just be a bit more prone to falls than females. Female center of gravity changes during our pregnancy thru the softening of our ligaments from pregnancy hormones and just the automatic corrections we take to maintain our balance thru out.
Bone wise the difference in females is mostly to help with giving birth. Widening of hips and softening of ligaments to help with it literally cracking in half to fit pushing the baby out.
The giving birth part isn't really in the cards for them honestly, no room hip bone wise and the idea of them getting a functional birth canal with all the muscles needed in there to function is laughable. That's the not structurally possible part imo.
Best they can hope for in the most convoluted what-ifs is a functioning meat bag to grow it in and having it cut out of them like an english bulldog. That's if they manage all the other hormone crap, and not having their immune system KO them for having a parasite grow in them.
thing is… I can see it happening in an ultra capitalist society sooner or later.
-lab grown organs reaches an actually useful stage of development
- commercialization of lab grown organs.
-rich mentally ill tranny pays someone with lose morals to give it a go.
- it becomes a thing that suddenly proven to work.
- lucrative market of further mutilating trannies in the name of mental illness and making a buck.
Of course that would also require scientists to give enough of a fuck to under stand how pregnancy actually works in females in a detailed enough level to develop a work around with the other convoluted bullshit. And there is no money in that.
When it comes to pregnancy they just expect us to do it cause that's what we do and we are lucky people figured some common sense ways to reduce us dying. So luckily I doubt it will happen any time soon.
I'm the anon going in detail with the what-is speculation atm. I don't think it will be anytime soon or anything close to to actual female reproduction. I'm just speculating cause it is interesting even if its shitty.
If I had to think about why too hard it would be because I'm a bit bitter about the reproductive burdens females have.
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Searching t4t has some interesting results, all of these are cis-couples
the common dominator from what I can see is that the woman is slightly above average height, being roughly equal or slightly taller then the man
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samefag, It seems women who have a dark /alt/ aesthetic almost always get "headcanoned" as trans as well
yes i absolutely agree bm played a big role in weaponizing this as an argument and a lot of bw know this which is why they end up hating bm with a passion. cant blame them tbh
samefag just before someone starts going full triggered
and twisting my words im not saying only pedos are attracted to EAW or that they look like children, but retards like trannies had insane logic from being nazicels in the 00s and 10s and group women by porn categories more than anything else.
They fucking wish.
Notice how they headcanon them as trans if they look slightly offbeat or unconventional over all? Yeah, that's totally not disconcerting for women or men who fit this category and have to see a bunch of mentally ill pornsick trannies "headcanon" them and people who look like them as troons for not being perfectly gender conforming by the standards of 1950s stereotypes. Yep.
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Inspired by another anon posting tweets from the t4t thing. They really think trans women are hardcore goth baddies and trans men are emotionally sensitive romanticists don't they?
That reminds me when this clip of an 1940s actor (Gene Kelly I think?) was circulating on Twitter and there were comments talking about how you can still find people like him within transmen communities and how this guy is obviously gay, kek
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This is just a tranny's way of saying "I really like the unconventional dynamic of these couples, but cishets are yucky and lame so I'm just gonna pretend they're trans"
Personally I think we should encourage people like this, because it shows normies that the entire trans thing is just a trendy identity that people take on to be "different" and if you can declare fictional characters and dead people trans then it really has no meaning and is something that can be assigned at a whim, unlike a real gender that you are born with. It proofs that it's all just a huge fucking joke made up by special snowflakes to feel unique.
The trans communities downfall will be that they are all autistic, not relatable and absolutely buttfucking insane. Normies are already starting to notice this, because their loudest voices are the most crazy people.
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best reply I saw to this bs
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The bi4bi thing in the middle reminds me of this cringe. Beta male + bisexual woman = "queer"
it's like millenials and zoomers can't live with being ordinary
they have to find ways to describe themselves and everything they do as "queer" even if they're as straight as they come
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Yeah, that explains this one time I was listening to the radio. One of the radio hosts announced that Beyoncé was pregnant and one of the others responded with "Haha, really? I always thought she was a man". I was confused by the comment since Beyoncé doesn't look like a man at all but I thought it must have been some inside joke among the hosts. Then years later I saw trannies always comparing themselves to black women and I found out that there was this stereotype of black women being "masculine". I realized that the radio host was just being racist all along.
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well it's not an explicitly racial thing imo, lady gaga has had trans-rumors against her for years
pretty much any tall and thing female celebrity gets accused of being trans https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jamie-lee-curtis/
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nta but if anything Beyonce has always been known for being curvy. How can you look at her and see a man? it is a race thing imo
dog post is golden though and that involved a mtf
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>>1444563>it's like millenials and zoomers can't live with being ordinary
exactly, the overwhelmingly majority of people will be "boring straight people" and there's nothing wrong with that
This reminds me of all bi4bi posts, every single one of them is just a regular healthy straight couple, but they can't really accept them, they have internalized these dumb ideas in their minds about the "yucky and problematic
straight relationships" and how superior queer relationships are, so they headcanon them as being bi and thus allowing themselves to ship them and its mostly zoomer girls doing this, they probably have some dumb woke identity but their all likely straight
so in summary its a combination of interlined heterosexuality, queer politics and varying degrees of fujoshi brain-rot https://twitter.com/search?q=bi4bi%20&src=typed_query&f=top
an additional detail I notice is that often a lot of white girls have this hc with a lot of woc
characters, even when race isn't an aspect of their character, it elevates them above boring "straight white people" and thus they must be bi
This is why I have always argued that positive portrayal of healthy hetorsexual relationships are more important then pointless queer pandering
kek, I remember bi4bi always being cope for racist fujos
fujos would rather ship two white dudes who have never met than acknowledge canonical chemistry between one such white dude and a woc
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>>1444618>>1444628>white "queer" fujos being just as racist as the TIMs they cape for, by masculinizing bw and casting a queer identity upon them
seriously, is it that hard to treat black women as just normal people(samefag; derail)
ironically they would be less boring if they were at peace with their relationships being straight
we've gotten to the point where pretending to be "queer" is the most predictable thing you can do as a teenager or someone in their 20s
2/3 actually, but I expected a backlash
weather you are willing to admit it or not, Fujos are the responsible for the current dynamics of the current TRA agenda and this whole "head-cannoning" straight and cis characters as being queer or trans
also most fujos are racist white girls
They do this to every social rights movement. Attach their fetishistic asses on and water down everyone's identities. Gay people are genital fetishists and their sexualities should include them and straight people should be allowed to identify as gay, womanhood is a nebulous concept so TIMs should be included in feminism else you're a TERF
and now black people are masculine and in the same category as TIMS in terms of being socially outcaste. This is the only reason why anyone listens to them. Everything they touch turns to shit.
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its so funny (insufferable) to watch these men lie to themselves, hunter literally has zero hips and still somehow this troon has even less than him, and yet he believes he has more? the delusion is almost impressive.
Be honest, 3/3.
>Fujos are the responsible for the current dynamics of the current TRA agenda and this whole "head-cannoning" straight and cis characters as being queer or trans >also most fujos are racist white girls
Neither of these statements are true and you are indeed that sperg kek. Most fujos aren't even white, they're young Asian girls.>>1444653
They are replying to themselves, they already admitted it. >that isn't milk
Neither is derailing ANOTHER thread with their raging fujo vendetta like they do every day. It's bizarre.
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Our queen azealia banks popping off again
>>1444364>yelling about headcanons
these are real people not cartoon characters retard
i'm 99% sure these people say things like "listen to black people and don't speak over them because you don't know about the oppression they face if you're white" yet when they actually need to listen to black women they act like this
What does this have to do with the thread?
Also, Julia Fox exposed her for being a crackhead trying to get pap pics with her lmao bpd femcels kin with Azealia tooo much
WTF are you on about, I have had a black-ex before and am not into any one racial group
I just think fujos can be disgusting and will erase woc
and actual good representation of healthy relationships(regardless of race) for the sake of their retarded m/m ships, cause as stated they are porn addicts(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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I really fucking hate how troonism has become more acceptable than something as natural and widespread as homosexuality but here we are. I guess they also don't think lesbians exist because how could women do something so icky, ew.
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If you find your mental illness fun then it isn't a mental illness.
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This has always been a phenomena in many conservative Islamic nations, usually born out of the extreme gender segregated nature of Islamic societies, the relations were always between an older man and a young boy who would "belong" to the until his early 20's
>cross-dressing boys and young men took their place throughout the Middle East; in some Arab countries, these dancers were known as gawwal, and in Egypt, they were known by the related term khawal. The khawal imitated female ghawazi by dancing with castanet self accompaniment, painting their hands with henna, braiding their long hair, plucking their facial hair, wearing make-up, and adopting the manners of women.
>The youths, often wearing heavy makeup, would curl their hair and wear it in long tresses under a small black or red velvet hat decorated with coins, jewels and gold. Their usual garb consisted of a tiny red embroidered velvet jacket with a gold-embroidered silk shirt, shalvar (baggy trousers), a long skirt and a gilt belt, knotted at the back. They were said to be "sensuous, attractive, effeminate", and their dancing "sexually provocative". Dancers minced and gyrated their hips in slow vertical and horizontal figure eights, rhythmically snapping their fingers and making suggestive gestures. Often acrobatics, tumbling and mock wrestling were part of the act. The köçeks were sexually exploited, often by the highest bidder.
libfems and TRAs use these practices as proof of how non-western cultures were so enlightened on trans and gay issues, but this was more or less how it actually way
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good luck finding that healthy irl relationship you fantasize about day and night via various self inserts girl… I mean it because the bulk of talented female fic writers will continue to write buttsex no matter how many times you call their sistherin pornsick raysists on lolcow.farm
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1)your being racist
2)I really doubt the latter part, but I'm sure you believe that you gay rape story where a male makes ass babies is on par with actual romance novels
>>1444768>Now they've completely enbraced the queer theory and their new thing is to say that there are no differences between men and women so trans women are therefore true and actual women
Correction, it's that troons are now biologically female. Because they are women so their parts are now female parts. 'biologically female' and 'biologically male' are now terf
Yep. They are coomers and their current level of degeneracy gets boring to them so troons always have to escalate.>>1444783
Nah, they don't even have to get the axe wound. The love going on and on about their "female penis".
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a broad generalization but more or less correct, this was however common throughout civilization in middle east, including in pre-Islamic Arabia and as Islam spread this cultural practice spread to regions where this practice was never a thing such as Egypt, Central Asia, rest of North Africa and India
This cultural phenomenon usually required a society to be at least feudal, have an extreme form of misogyny even for the time(where women are considered good for nothing but making babies) and an active salve culture,
This sounds suspiciously like bacha bazi.https://humanrights.brightblue.org.uk/blog-1/2017/8/18/bacha-bazi-afghanistans-darkest-secret
>Bacha bazi has antecedents in ancient cultures throughout central Asia. However, the practice appeared in its modern form in the 19th century. It typically involves wealthy Afghans, often Pashtuns, who acquire young men or boys for the purposes of sexual entertainment and exploitation. Women are prohibited from working as dancers or entertainers in many parts of Afghanistan, and young boys are used instead. These boys, known as bacha bareesh, or ‘beardless boys’, are generally between ten and eighteen years old, and tend to come from poor backgrounds.
>Parents are persuaded to hand over their sons for financial reimbursement, with the promise that they will be given work and an education. Ostensibly, the young men work as dancers at private parties, however many are coerced into having sexual relationships with their masters. Boys who refuse to do so are often raped, and, in some reported cases, murdered if they manage to escape. The boys are also generally deprived of education, ruining their life prospects when they are eventually discarded after having become too old.
Its not really suspicious, it was usually common in many Islamic societies
usually ended in the 20th century by secular nationalis leader
i love how they pretend that people are arbitrarily assigned male or female at birth
i wonder why none of the amabs menstruate or get pregnant or give birth etc
~it's a mystery~
>>1444792> Boys who refuse to do so are often raped, and, in some reported cases, murdered if they manage to escape. The boys are also generally deprived of education, ruining their life prospects when they are eventually discarded after having become too old.
Yass kween slay, based, how progressive, they were so advanced for their time, I can’t believe nobody thought of this in the year 2022 of our lord, insert some drag queen meme about being based here.
At this point, if there’s no mass peaking, this will happen publicly and we will all have to applaud those who traffic children because it will be based yass kween.
Pederasty exists where moids exist, period. Even the church was full of it in the 1100s (Liber Gomorrhianus) and the Italian city states were so full of it that some moid saint wrote a massive tract about it and concluded 'it's far less sinful to violate a little girl than a boy, so do that instead'. The wakashu in Japan were males of an age designated as fuck-objects and fuck-holes (not "third gender" like youtube idiots claim). Papuan tribes practice it. Its a perennial, perpetual scrote fixation to dress little boys up as little girls and rape them. So of course it was omnipresent in the Islamic world until recently, since Muslim men have no restrictions on their carnality
The femboy nonsense gaining traction everywhere is scrotes reviving this ideal again out of spite. The West briefly got rid of this b/s in the 20th century but it didn't last
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These troons are so embarrassing imagine a woman talking like these troons do.
boobies go boing boing xD
they weren't always dressed as women and while they weren't allowed in women's quarters cause they were men, they were still considered "lesser men" overall, which is what most third gendered people were
the "third gender" term in country includes gay-men, intersex people and tims casue they are all considered lesser men
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I have to make this about myself or else I won't be able to relate to it-twitter troon
These mukhannathun were not
dressed as women at all.
They were allowed into women quarters because they had no sexual attraction towards women, which later was proven to be false as some did and simply lied to force themselves into female spaces and were subsequently banished by Muhammad. Not because they were lesser men, they still had the upper hand over women and had the rights of a normal man and were recognized as males.
Islam doesn't recognize these effeminate men as a third gender and their scripture makes a clear distinction of females, males and intersex individuals who would still fit in the M and F binary. The mukhannathun who some Muslims like to justify transgenderism for was simply used by Muhammad to indicate an asexual man who sometimes possessed feminine characteristics or an asexual woman who would be seen as masculine although the woman could never enter a males quarter because of danger against her.
Muhammad literally word for word threatens "men who imitate women" and vice versa, rejecting the concept of transgenderism and being unwavering on the fact that there are only 2 sexes.
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Member the troon who put his festishes on display in his social media, the one who volunteered for a girl guide group, he was fired and the tra's are mad about it.
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NTA, although the autistic westboro-like ultra-trads obviously hates troons, the moderate normies tend to be more supportive of them than of the LGBs, since they think they believe trannies are mentally ill HSTS who will 41% if they don't transition, while L/Gs can be celibate and Bs can date exclusively with the opposite sex. But most of them are peaking now because of transbians and genderspecials, instead of "latching on to it harder and harder now" like nonnie
Also, my country has many followers of Alan Kardec's spiritism, and they believe that homosexuals are people who have spent several incarnations being of the opposite sex and haven't gotten used to their current bodies, which is perfect for troonism.
In fact, Umbanda, a offshot of Spiritism syncretized with african religions have a lot of trannies, and guess what, almost all of them relate to the oversexualized entity "Pomba Gira".
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Good Lord, I swear r/MTF is one of the most disturbing tranny subs on Reddit.
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Screenshotted cause this will probably get deleted, it's already downvoted because it's too honest, kek.
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That subreddit is a gooldmine. Also, look at the other posts by the faggot you screenshotted. He basically admits to being one of those incels who try to fuck other men to cope kek
“Waaaah I wish I could be pregnant waaaah it’s not available to me waaaah!”
Cry more, troon. You can’t have every facet of womanhood, no matter how much you cry and no matter how much you want to. As a matter of fact, you don’t have access to anything remotely close to it outside of what you think is womanhood, or, playing dress up and shitting your guts out thanks to the hormones you dope yourself up with. Turn to God or something, get help.
I guess it's because afro-brazilian religions are "minoritarian and persecuted", which is true but wokes use this fact to shield it from any criticism, such the ones against the animal sacrifices in some branches of these religions. >>1444263
Hi anã, nice to see other brazilian here. I always wanted to post tranny vacas from here but I thought it would be too niche.
KEK. terfsouls confirmed
to be fair, I played in the network test and unfortunately they have "body type A and B" instead of gender like the former souls games, which is unfortunate.
Trannies in mens prison is the correct choice. Banks needs to realize this. She’s fairly transphobic but still seems to think some troons are valid
JFC no wonder these people fall for the tranny shit, they’re insane. So he’s an heterosexual man, who has AGP, hates getting fucked by men, but is somehow gay, and went through conversion therapy at some point of his life>>1444905
Yet he says he’s straight again and is mad that women will never even look at him. Jesus, these men really need to get shoved in an underground cell so nobody has to look at their ugly faces rotting.
I don’t know anything about queer theory but the “no difference between men and women” thing really is being pushed. They’re now saying that male and female are meaningless terms, “biological sex” is a TERF
dogwhistle, sex is a spectrum, etc. A surprising number of normies have been convinced of this too just because they think it’s what “good people” believe. “There are only two sexes” is becoming a culture war phrase and good liberals know they’re supposed to be on the side that doesn’t say that. All because being reminded they’re male ruins the AGP coomer fantasy.
Probably a lot of academics and intellectuals get on board with it because it makes them feel smarter and more enlightened than the average idiot who still believes that there are only two sexes and those sexes don’t change.
Women and men are both social constructs only existing to uphold the privileged cis heterosexual white able-bodied patriarchy. Keep up nonny
! Cis women are as bad as men but trans women are the same as cis women!
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ah yes, compare the fact that you want to mutilate your bodies to fucking nazi germany
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Because talking about how healing from your elective butchering "among life and death" felt like a "religious experience" definitely doesn't sound cult-like at all.
What the actual fuck. This one can't 41% soon enough.
>>1444731> The verdict came after the hearing of a case brought by a Kuwaiti man who was charged under the law.
>Lawyer Ali Al Arian told The National that his client identifies as a woman.
>The person's medical records, dating back to early childhood, include a doctor's assessment that they have gender dysphoria, the distress caused by someone’s gender identity not matching their biological body, Mr Al Arian said.https://9k.gg/UUHJF
This is not something I ever would have expected. Kind of stumped.
“Its not imitating the opposite sex if you have gender dysphoria”. I wonder why the client was diagnosed with gender dysphoria as a child.
Its also weird seeing anons bring up whats a pretty dead and obscure practice as something that defines gender and sexual relationships, most muslim arabs will have no clue what you’re talking about if you bring up dancing boys.
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when can we send these people back to hell where they belong
putin nuke us off the map already
I suspect it is because they have more difficulty achieving orgasm and so spend more time building up before release, so they experience the buildup/payoff differently than before and interpret that as the difference between male/female orgasm.
Much of what I have seen them describe aligns with this, which they associate with stereotypes of female orgasm because women often do struggle to orgasm during sex (at least with men), which is then attributed to some great feminine mystery instead of poor sex ed, low female self-confidence, and male sexual selfishness.
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Like universal for all women? I guess not, but I'm almost certain that only women can have multiple orgasms back to back. Just kind of like how not all women menstruate but only women menstruate.