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Gender critical and radical feminism define gender as sociological (feminine/masculine) and sex as biological (female/male). Woman is defined as an adult human female. Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially. They strive to preserve women's spaces (such as restrooms, locker rooms, and health care providers) and areas of artistic and intellectual expression separate from men.
Trans ideology posits that one's gender is self-determined based on one's feelings and defines woman as the characteristics and behaviors traditionally ascribed to females by society. Increasingly, transactivists are conflating gender and sex and asserting that a person can self-identify both gender and sex.
Gender critical feminists strive to maintain the distinction between gender and sex. The conflation of gender and sex erases the biological reality of women, eliminates women-only spaces, and disestablishes women as a protected class. Existing laws and legislation currently being passed around the world allowing for self-identification on legal documents do not differentiate between gender and sex.
The acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism) is used primarily by transactivists and their allies to denigrate radical feminists and other women who express gender critical ideas. Transactivists portray TERFs as violent oppressors by virtue of their ideas alone.
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New Reddit thread.
Since anons on /ot/ always want to pull the "take it to GC/PP!" card.
there's the theory where men become fixated on the things that first aroused them as young boys/teens (so same age females aka young girls and teens), and then their tastes never evolve past that as they mature into adult men.
I'm not sure how true that is though.
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Thank you based mods for this early Christmas present. I'll post some stuff I've seen around here
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JK FREAKING ROWLING comes out to support women!
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People are attacking her now. TERF is even trending next to her name on Twitter.
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I guess she really must be GC then.
if you comb through the bullshit all those attacking her are some ugly lefty guys or troons with cartoons as their pfp. Even on tweets saying jk is wrong, everyone replying is saying she's right and said nothing wrong.
The Humans Rights Campaign twitter posted something like "transwomen are women. Transmen are men. NB are NB. CC: jk Rowling" and everyone in thr replies clowned the shit out of them like>cats are dogs>war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength
Yeah, some people combed through her likes, and found she liked a Tweet that was against self-ID, if I remember correctly.>>89
The HRC is so embarrassing now. I still get e-mails from them, but I'm just not inclined to support them anymore.
Imagine being told you can't use your name because "people won't buy a book from a woman!!" and 20 years later women get fired for not using men's preferred pronouns.
And now these sheltered troons and fakebois are harassing this woman who worked herself from food stamps to millionaire status, as if that's gonna change her views.
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Based. Should've known the woman who wrote McGonagall wouldn't put up with male bs.
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Mark Hamill was dogpiled for liking the tweet.
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imagine being so deluded and such a coomer that you get turned on by taking hormones
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just read my first dworkin book, and some essays. i've been crying for hours. being a woman suffering
NTA but seconding Woman Hating. Intercourse and Right Wing Women are really good too. http://radfem.org/dworkin/
Radfem Library has all her pdfs for free.
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Thoughts on the theories of Lisa Marchiano? she's a psychologist and a feminist theorist who tries to anylize the patriarchy specifically from a analytical psycholical (Jungian) perspective
I've enjoyed a lot of her writing, but I have to be honest, I hate how much of her work gets published on Quillette. That site gets hold of these feminist writers who have interesting stuff to say about trans bs, then you click the woman tag and it's just sandwiched between endless articles on "girls don't need female role models everything is fine i'm not like other girls no one's ever catcalled meeee blah blah victim
culture is to blame" and it's like……..I wish I could see her work on a site that allows her to dig into the gender theory that informs radfem perspectives on transitioning but that a site like Quillette doesn't seem interested in? Like they want her to talk about girls being pushed to transition early and how shitty it is and how the entire trans rights movement is implicated but they don't have much space for the connecting thought of "maybe it's because girls are treated unfairly and are maybe victims
of a misogynist society."
I did like her interview for Feminist Current for this reason.
Seeing this being reposted by genderspecials and furries of the like https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/10/christian-rights-new-strategy-divide-conquer-lgbt-community/>“Gender identity on its own is just a bridge too far. If you separate the T from the alphabet soup, we’ll have more success,” Kilgannon added.
She compared allowing teenagers to transition with “the 1950s lobotomy fad in psychiatry.”
Attendees were also told to wrap their transphobic rhetoric in the language of feminism, claiming gender identity is a concept offensive to women.
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Tbh I feel bad for transexuals because the current trans narrative has been hijacked by nutcases. I mean if the usual argument went more along these lines of
>I know biological sex is real and that I'm not literally a man/woman, but it would make me more comfortable to present as the opposite sex and be referred to by these pronouns
I would have an easier to time finding sympathy. The fact that the current narrative is so detached from reality underlines that it's a mental illness and society shouldn't be enabling their delusions. Most children with dysphoria desist and grow up to be normal gay adults, that's why transing kids for playing with the wrong toys is stupid and dangerous. Medical transition should be reserved for the most persistent cases of dysphoria.
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Chicago drag queens are trying to save the troons by donating to one of the scammiest help lines. They can't even TRA right and find out how shit these organizations are, as long as they WK enough it's all that matters.
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God I fucking hate libfems.
>>192>girls don’t get girls pregnant
Y I K E S, TERF alert! Girls get other girls pregnant all the time
! Girls get boys
pregnant all the time! How is babby formed? Well, it certainly has nothing to do with the parents being male or female, those distinctions are only about whether your brain is pink and frilly or blue and rugged. It sure would be nice to have some terms that are more concise than sperm-ejaculator and uterus-carrier to describe humanity’s two reproductive classes but I guess our languages just never evolved that way.
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Director of the Castlevania Netflix series, Samuel Deats, retweeted this trans headcanon fanart. Spare us from official creators virtue signalling by supporting the regressive fantasy that feminine men and masculine women are actually trans.
How dare this motherfucker foul the work of Ayami Kojima, let us keep our beautiful men without shoehorning this tranny bullshit into it. Fuck this makes me mad. At least make your own stupid trans characters instead of doing this sort of colonizing work.>>183
Old school transgenders are often sad but harmless, they acknowledge the gender binary and that they're "visitors" in the gender this surgically altered body of theirs is representing. It's the new wave of cumbrained twitter troons who are a problem with their pseudoscience lobbying because they want to pull the whole world into their IRL fetish roleplay.
God this is really disappointing. Both the artist and the director.
But this also got me thinking: what are you even supposed to do if you're a drawfag and someone sends you money to draw this troon shit? Like yeah free money, but what if you don't want to post/draw it? Is there even a way to say "Sorry, i don't want to draw this" without triggering
a tranny spergout?
It's a difficult position for artists and other creators who want to make money for sure. I wouldn't create anything that I thought had a harmful message though. Drawing a male character with mastectomy scars is a harmful message - it tells weeb girls that they, too, can become a cool anime bishie if they get their breasts cut off.
I'm especially disappointed by the director. He better NOT add any trans nonsense to the story.
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Yeah, I've also seen comments about the scar on his chest - that it also means he is trans. Even though the scar was obviously from when his dad attacked him and isn't the right place at all. These delusions shouldn't be pandered to.
Alright,why do I even bother??
He's male and always has been!
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Ironic when the female main character is competent and 0% objectified. It's partly all the yaoi they fap to that makes them self-insert as the male characters.
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I've been following a few TEHM blogs on tumblr, some of them are pretty funny. This guy makes me kek
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Non binaries are even more annoying than the trans folk imo
Do they not realize those labels exists to protect people and their privacy? Going in between both and helping yourself to everything because of society(tm) seems like such a scum move.
Also this user referred to getting her breasts removed as "Themboification" and I just.
Even if she meant it as a joke, it only pushes the point that this is just a fetish further.
Its not going to be long until this girl happens to be in the wrong restroom at the wrong time with the wrong males who have 0 patience for a female entering their restroom, let alone ~non binary demiboiis~, and will proceed to beat her the fuck up or worse. Its only us women who are stupid enough to give this shit a pass and coddle these people because of our socialization. Its only us who are dumb enough to see an obvious male creeping on girls in the restroom and actually applaud "her" for "her" bravery.
You're not supposed to say it but since I've been radpilled I can't stand how intentionally meek and harmless and weak women make themselves out to be. We should be violently rioting in the streets and ripping males eyeballs out and cooking them over an open fire.
And yes, Alucard is too hot to be a tranny. They all look like dogshit.
Oh man this image lmao. ngl I've always hated this sort of "hollywood butch look" so much because it's ridiculously cookie cutter, overused and only there because it's the absolute limit men can handle with masculinity in women and any further than that means you must be a man. If they had long hair they'd look like your basic starlets.
Anyway god bless TEHMs, at least they aren't the victims
of female socialization and can speak out against all the bullshit they want. Fight the good fight brothers.
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bc of you, I realize I need to spend more time in the spicy side of Tumblr discourse
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so close, and yet so far
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Reminds me of this gem
Honestly it's so frustrating. Like, I honestly respect Bronies now because they at least knew they were men who enjoyed a fandom dominated by young women and stayed away from them. These troons have no decency. Honestly it's board culture to nitpick and when troons are in the mix, it's like walking on eggshells we just have to say "Ohhh so beautiful! Very cute! Yes, girl!" Despite them being ugly as shit and not question their predatory motives because either them or their TRAs following so closely behind them will shun us down.
Case in point, there was some old troon who paraded around the fact he was hanging around Japanese high school girls. On PULL, now filled with enbys and troons, so many users were shamed for pointing out this MAN was preying on these girls.
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I want to believe that this is fake because goddamn, this is North Korean level mind games. >>252
I'm so, so glad that my country doesn't have a lot of trannies to begin with, but because I'm a weeb I deal with them every now and then. It's so, so hard to pretend to see this 6ft man in a dress as "one of us" and I really, really doubt other women sincerely consider them female but only play lip service to avoid conflict. Talking in private about them with other women results in them usually saying, in this certain meek, fearful voice, that "I think SHE's a wonderful person and I respect HER identity and all that, but I just.. don't consider her female like us!". No really? You don't see this balding, hulking fridge wearing thigh highs and kids' clothes obsessing over lesbian anime girls as a woman?
Another chapter are the FTMs but they're usually too shy and socially female that they'd throw a massive shitfit then and there when you consider them female. What worries me is that I've seen a ridiculous amount of women in their late 20's
suddenly deciding that they're men and getting on T&Surgeries in less than a year. Bitch you lived 28 years as a woman with no problem and now you're suddenly dying if you can't get your tits cut off? One of my old acquaintances did exactly this, she was always extremely gender-conforming, never showed signs of tomboyness or gender dysphoria, was in a heterosexual relationship for maybe a decade, then suddenly started dating a transman and in less than 5 months
cut off her hair and became a fullfledged troon. At 28. Now she keeps obsessing over "transmasc art" in which hypermasculine characters are drawn with mastectomy scars and a vagina. I'm sorry sister but no matter how much testosterone you inject you won't turn into this hairy, tall, super buff body builder lumberjack with angular facial features.>>261
When they interview that doctor saying that they inform the kids about the consequences of HRT it makes me think back to all the British detransitioners who said that they were sent to hormone therapy without so much as a psychological evaluation. In the light of those leaked documents of medical professionals downplaying the effects it really makes me think if they're straight out lying or at least twisting the truth on camera. Especially because that one trans teen was able to get on T due to fucking conference calls with some pediatrician she found online. I'm really waiting for the first death case from all these illegal hormones kids are instructed to order online.
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If you want to witness some overclocked cognitive dissonance at work, read this article. I'm fucking appalled that someone is able to write down all the reasons why the trans movement is based on misogyny yet still firmly believes in it. https://thenewinquiry.com/on-hating-men-and-becoming-one-anyway/
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All the Twitter handmaidens have come out of the woodwork since this JKR thing, especially the uwu progressive queer (codeword straight) types. I feel like they deserve their own thread, but here's a gem I saw.
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True… Reminds me of this article I saw on these people.
They're def the absolute bottom of the barrel.
I've noticed a lot of troons and tankies (troonkies?) are obsessed with violence, but never seem to have any practical real life experience with fighting or physicality in general (hence why they think men and women are totally equal in all things and it's mean to not let men in dresses compete with women in sports). If some of these kids were beaten up in middle school maybe they wouldn't be such toxic
assholes now. >>236
10 years ago, feminist spaces were talking about consent and boundaries, and now we're not allowed to say no to dick unless we were sufficiently traumatized (and even then we should be "working on unpacking" that).
>>285>I've noticed a lot of troons and tankies (troonkies?) are obsessed with violence, but never seem to have any practical real life experience with fighting or physicality in general
sadly true, the local antifa groups here in germany are either borderline malnourished or pudgy soyboys while the rightwing unironic neonazis all look like they engange in moderate to high level exercise and basic combat training
I got kicked out of a socialist group over this, these men had/have no idea how to do anything, because any attempt at training of any kind was met with either derision or complacency. We had a couple of ex-bundeswehr guys come by a couple of times, but they dropped out after 1-2 meetings when they realized we were lame.
sage for blog post but
as a teen girl I took up karate. the place I went to was run by lesbians and was more focused on traditional form and self defence rather than sparring or "combat" training (idk if other karate dojos do this). the majority of the attendants when I started were older men (I was 15-18 and the men were 35-55) and the occasional older woman, usually a partner or spouse of one of the men. at one point a 12 yo boy joined and I was his defacto partner.
ANYWAY, maybe since it was led by lesbians but the men were never creepy or douchy. despite their courtesy, the difference in strength was unreal. I had some advantages of being smaller faster and more flexible, so I was essentially able to wiggle out of body work exercises, but I understood. if any of these men went apeshit and went brute Force… nothing would matter cuz I'd be fucking rekt.
I was totally into the badass fighter woman narrative before this lol. not anymore. weapons are legit necessary for women vs a man.
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There's no reasoning with these people. To them, being gay is inherently bad because gay sex doesn't involve incels with autogynephilia or straight fujos. This kind of homophobia is really damaging, I feel bad for young lesbians and gay men being exposed to this troonacy.
well he's right about one thing you don't get to decide who deserves to be a woman cause woman isn't a privilege to be earned… you either are female or you aren't.
Sounds rough, sorry anon.
Right? I tried to tell him that being a woman isn't something that's deserved because you're either biologically female or not, and he insisted that it's the same thing as saying TW
don't deserve to be women cause both are exclusionary. I literally had no idea he thought any of this despite him mildly saying he didn't really agree with all my views before. and assume without the drinks he never would have told me so I dunno what to do now, this is only the second time we've ever fought in 5 years since we met. Thanks anon.
>>267>I really, really doubt other women sincerely consider them female but only play lip service to avoid conflict. Talking in private about them with other women results in them usually saying, in this certain meek, fearful voice, that "I think SHE's a wonderful person and I respect HER identity and all that, but I just.. don't consider her female like us!". No really? You don't see this balding, hulking fridge wearing thigh highs and kids' clothes obsessing over lesbian anime girls as a woman?
Yeah, I've been detecting that too. I've even fallen into that as well when I was younger, and would attack other people for suggesting transwomen were anything other than brave and stunning, because I was just surrounded by that mentality on Tumblr, and I knew
if I said anything else I would be attacked and regarded as a bad person.
I feel like there are very few people who legitimately consider trans women to be the same as cis women, even trannies have to know deep down they'll never be anything more than a bad imitation of the real thing. But with today's political climate, it's hard to say anything about it openly.
the reason it took me so long to be more gc is because of all the blogs I followed on Tumblr. Nobody really digs deeper into these ideas, they just go along with them because it's the socially acceptable thing to do. I even had a brief conversation with my bf about the whole trans ideology and he barely knew anything about it beyond 'let people do what makes them happy' since that's the rhetoric everyone uses.
I keep quiet about my viewpoint because I know it'd lead to me being crucified by my friends and people in our community. It's pretty sad. Thankfully, my mom is on the same page as me so we can have conversations about some of the idiocy
The "anarcho-communist tranny antifa" stereotype is just sad in general, they think that full on marxist communism will allow them to laze around doing nothing and their horse pills will rain from the skies free of charge as they get their complimentary sex surgeries. In reality they'd most likely be starving on the streets because they can't contribute to the society the slightest or take care of themselves. I don't understand why they always think they'd be in the position of some high-ranking party official living the good life when they can barely exit their apartments without having a panic attack.>>293
He's 100% a chaser and/or an egg in making. Be aware.
I totally get what you mean anon, I feel pretty stupid for my choices in a way rn and like I was just Not-My-Nigeling. but I also didnt know the extent of this until yesterday. We were friends before we even got serious so I thought I had known him well enough to have weeded out red flags like this.>>306>>311
>I’d be incredibly nervous if my husband suddenly started whiteknighting for troons THAT hard>He's 100% a chaser and/or an egg in making. Be aware.
Yeah… I am actually incredibly nervous about the possibility of him trooning out now, especially based on how he phrased/repeated the who "deserves" to be a woman thing. And the fact that it exploded seemingly out of nowhere while he was intoxicated and he is just acting weird/deflective today now that he's sober and downplaying how mad he was about it.
It is. I wish there were more XX exclusive places to meet women who have things in common with me.>>269
NTA but I agree with her. Women don't get angry enough over the way men treat us.>>290
Some of this depends on what martial arts you pick up. Martial arts like judo are a lot better for women because the size difference is less important. A trained woman will never be able to punch or kick as hard as a trained man, so why bother? Agreed that weapons are necessary though. I think all women should arm themselves.
>>292>“Just the tip” but make it progressive>>296
I’ve seen this a lot as well. These guys see no problem with misogyny, racism or homophobia but make fun of an AGP’s programming socks and suddenly you’re going way too far
omg have some empathy for their suffering :((((
I agree with >>301
that they’re not necessarily chasers. Many are simply misogynists who recognise, consciously or subconsciously, that trans ideology harms women and strips us off our rights and safe spaces. They think we have it coming.
had a family member who was a labor and delivery nurse and there were lots of stupid lesbians who would have sex with men and be super shocked they got pregnant
sometimes people are just….stupid
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Does anyone know how to cope with hating being biologically female?
I don't suffer dysphoria and am actually quite comfortable with my appearance (the exterior at least) buy boy i despise being weaker than men, no matter how much i trained and trained some obese neckbeard basement dweller could easily overpower me if he had his mind set on it, my country has very strict weapon laws so i can't even use other things to defend myself, heck carrying pepper spray could get me in trouble with the law. I just feel hopeless and like Prey in this shitty world.
I also have 0 of maternal bones and a phobia of pregnancy, if i could rip my uterus off without health concerns i would, the capacity of getting pregnant is just a dangerous liability.
I hate this weak ass body and i hate that no matter what i do i could never be strong enough to live life freely.
A) go on long-term contraception, maybe see a doctor about a partial hysterectomy in the future (if you go and ask about it every 6 months they'll realise you're serious eventually).
B) stop viewing yourself in comparison to men. It's not healthy to use them as a measuring stick to the point it makes you hate yourself.
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I wish I knew, anon. I'm sort of in the same boat as you but I have some dysphoria as well.
Someone I know came out (or whatever you call it) as a gay trans guy this year after being a lesbian for as long as I've known her and it made me jealous that she could so easily identify into manhood not knowing it was all a lie. I have a phobia of pregnancy too and I just don't understand how someone can go from being a lesbian to going on Grindr with no internal conflict or fears. I could write more but I'm not sure I'm making a lot of sense.
Pic related because this girl is into reading Lou Sullivan and Foucault now and posting about it on Tumblr because… of course.
>>342>Maybe see a doctor about a partial hysterectomy in the future
By law im not elligible for hysterectomy, you can only get one due serious health concerns (ie cancer) in my country, im only allowed to go as far as getting my tubes tied. Ironically enough fakeboys can!
>Stop viewing yourself in comparison to men.
But how? We all have to interact with men in a daily basis, we see men go berzerk violent enough times during a month be it irl or the news, women are technically the weaker human being and society doesn't tire of rubbing it in our faces.>>343
>It made me jealous that she could so easily identify into manhood not knowing it was all a lie.
Ignorance is Bliss.
Fuck fuck fuck what kind of gross ass fujoshi fanfic is that book? It reads exactly like some AO3 fanfiction. Is this what passes for activism for them?
Tubes tied is better than nothing, stops you from getting pregnant without pumping yourself full of hormones at least.
Uh, you just take control over your own thoughts? Realistically if you're doing regular strength training then you will end up being stronger than quite a lot of men - there is plenty of overlap between the two sexes, you just won't ever be stronger than the strongest man. But living with the way you think is similar to hating being alive because there's a reasonable chance you'll get a serious illness in your life. It's anxiety-driven, however justified, and it isn't good for you.
I don't have any advice but I'm sorry. I've been using online dating sites recently, and all the women I match with are genderspecials and all the men are leftie bros who have drunk the tranny kool aid. Some of them - even the straight guys - have stuff in their profiles about hating swerfs and terfs. This incident you're talking about is making me want to stay single forever. I had heard about this stereotype but I had no idea how prevalent it had gotten. It wasn't like this the last time I was using tinder/okc five years ago. Although I was still a libfem five years ago, so maybe it was. idk. >>307
I know I usually find myself tiptoeing when discussing anything vaguely related to genderism when it comes up in person, especially if it's someone my age or younger. I was talking to a family member about cheating/doping in sports and that led into me talking about the chinese women's relay team and that cyclist dude mckinnon. i didn't let myself talk about any of the numerous other males I know about in women's sports and used feminine pronouns because this person is a young, vaguely liberal guy who uses reddit and reddit is overrun with tranny mods so they've probably gotten to him in some form already. thankfully, he got why i was against it and the conversation moved on but I felt awful censoring myself and trying to sanitize my opinions.
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I've been keeping an eye on the abortion fetishist tranny from the last thread. He might be getting outed at school, (it seems like he might live in san francisco? also he also thinks all hispanics look the same kek) he cross posted someone's horrifying abortion story that has several things in common with the sexual fantasy he posted a while back. He posted more about wanting to beat his students, lots of wanting to skinwalk specific women and tims who were castrated as children like nicole maines - the creepiest examples I saw were the teen girl characters from harry potter and what seems to be some poor random woman who survived cancer. He seems fully aware that his "identity" is a fetish, but goes back and forth on admitting to it.
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Got a facebook ad for a safety app my city is using, aimed at women. You can mark problem areas and write experiences you've had so the city might (maybe) work on safety downtown.
Lo and behold there's handmaidens in the comments whose greatest concern is the inclusivity of the app. There was a woman who got the shit beaten out of her on the train just a little bit ago and a trend of girls being assaulted downtown but let's make sure we include ALL identities you guys.
I feel it too, anon. I also understand most people don’t believe it, but it’s hard to remember when you’re working with a fetishistic TiM who makes his little daughter call him her “mommy”, and forces everyone at work to call him “she”.
Hugs. I hope you’ll be able to find a way to connect with other GC people.
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A lesbian meme page I like on Facebook shared this shit
personally I cope by trying to lift heavy every single day and i know am genuinely stronger than an untrained couchpotato. i am also trained in self defense and i'm much larger than the average woman.
that being said im still gonna be weaker than most men who are even moderately athletic but hey its something. yes i hate it and yes it is depressing but if you learn to use a weapon women tend to be faster and more accurate with those i guess? (i do not own or endorse owning guns just saying weapons are your best bet).
there's nothing we can really do about it but for me it's still comforting to be as strong as I possibly can.
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Please tell me that there are more lesbians waking up to how ridiculous this all is.
I just googled him.>he shared a photo of the removed penis of a transgender patient and shaped it into a heart, with the comment, “There are many ways to show your LOVE.”https://www.miamiherald.com/news/health-care/article227512769.html
Mengele psycho vibes.
If it weren't for the trans movement supplying him with a steady chain of
consenting patients he'd probably be getting his jollies by cutting up prostitutes and homeless men. People like this would have true crime documentaries made on them if it weren't for the fact that it would shine an uncomfortable light on genital mutilation surgery as a whole, so I'm sure that the trans lobby would prefer to keep this quiet if possible.
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male on male violence is women's fault
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I physically cringed due to this
Rei telling Gendo to go fuck himself in the end as she proceeds to disobey him
pretty much represents objectified young women finally gaining their lives back because that's essentially what she was, a doll doing what men tell her to. But of course these coomer troomers would see her only as the kawaii obedient waifu and thus proving the character's purpose right. Disgusting.>>408
The ironic thing is that they've already decided that Asuka is a tranny because of the scene where she's mad about having her period.
Definitely me. I was a TRA up until maybe 3 years ago when I peaked, these threads helped me a lot to come to terms with my thoughts. I was never one of those really delusional ones and I was always wary of TiMs, but I definitely identified as trans for years myself and contemplated on getting on hormones and surgeries because I sincerely believed the "I will kill myself if I won't get treatment" meme. It took me a long time to realize that I'm your generic tranny story, a woman abused by men, in denial of her own homosexuality, hating being sexualized, not connecting well with female peers growing up et cetera. Which is why I understand where a lot of TiFs are coming from and can't really be mad at them for being the victims
of female socialization no matter how much I want to. >>404
Absolutely loving how they hate women so fucking much that they're willing to pin a man killing a tranny to be the work of the terf boogeyman.
I hate it. I'm fucking dead over the fact that foreigners are celebrating how we have the ~youngest prime minister in the world who's also female~ like we're super progressive but in reality she's a libfem representing a very traditionally corrupt party, likely influenced and controlled by the group behind her. The only good thing is that she wouldn't allow transitioning for minors under 18, but as far as I'm aware she's a supporter of self-identification.
Did other finns see the Helsingin Sanomat article concerning JRK's tweet? Our nation's biggest newspaper deadass calling "terves" the people who threaten trans people with violence and basically forcing the twitter narrative with absolutely no sources. Shameful.
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I would honestly prefer someone like Margaret Thatcher over a libfem PM any day of the week
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I present to you the expected coldest take on Little Women's Jo
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Just another gross AGP
>>415>Blanchard was a fucking idiot for thinking AGP were just as harmless.
this is something I've noticed when the topic of terfs comes up in unrelated spaces. men just do not understand that they as group are dangerous to us. It's not fuckin personal, it's just reality.
There was a harry potter meme on the subreddit for my country a few days ago, and obviously jkr's terf status came up. Even if these guys acknowledged that tims can never really be women they just could not comprehend why women need separate bathrooms, changing rooms etc. It's like explaining algebra to a goat.
I was literally an FTM as a teen, but it was a few years before TRA went mainstream and my parents wouldn't let me take puberty blockers/T. One of my close friends is 3 years younger than me and went through with hormones and surgery. Now she has serious health and emotional problems and is not a good looking boy or girl. I really lucked out and I kind of feel like it's my responsibility to help keep girls that are younger than me from making that mistake.>>344
I have the copper IUD and I really like it. It can last for up to 10 years apparently and it doesn't have any hormones in it.
As for comparing yourself to men, just remove them from your life as much as possible. Avoid living with them and if your hobbies or work require you to interact with them keep a respectful distance. Also, stop watching the news and try to consume media created by women. I know the media (and statistics) make it look like women are constantly being attacked by men, but if you keep them as only strangers and acquaintances you are unlikely to ever need to worry about defending yourself from men.
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I am tired of ironic weeb trannys ruining anime, fucking gross
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Saw this in the fakeboy thread and I’m honestly triggered even though I’m mostly desensitized to the shit I see on lolcow
>I can excuse rape on tape but I draw the line at shipping anime boys
NTA but I'm still a hardcore weeb and I hate how trannies ruined the whole kawaii aesthetic which was supposed to be for girls who wanted to express themselves loudly instead of being obedient and mild-mannered. Thank god at least fujo stuff is safe because fakeboi Aydens hate women too and think fujos are ~fetishizing them~.>>497>said by a heterosexual woman larping as a gay man
yeah like clockwork. Imagine being such a bootlicker that you defend IRL porn based on exploiting actual living women but go on a rampage over other girls liking two fictional men getting it on. >>501
Honestly from having met a lot of these fakeboi troons my perception is that they're sort of jealous about other girls being (seemingly) comfortable with themselves which is why they lash out at them. Some of them are closeted lesbians in denial, thus dating only other "transmen" and they think every cis woman is a prototypical mean, evil straight girl who bullied them in high school for being "a dyke". It's sort of like NLOG but instead of wanting to suck dudebro dick they want to remove all femininity from themselves to escape being objectified and sexualized by men.
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The comments are filled with people named shit like Cherry and Blue
Just to make it clear I’m not >>144
and I’m still really new to radical feminism. So I just finished woman hating and the first half of the book hit quite deep but I’m still conflicted about the conclusions she draws at the end. Is androgyny the way to abolish sexism and how are we supposed to talk about the problems we face as women when the whole concept is obsolete in her opinion? What do you think about it?
Oh for sure.
And you know, it’s kind of funny because I think I’ve only ever met one gay dude who liked BL. The others just watched porn of real people.
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Happy New Year everyone. Here's to another year of this bullshit.
I hate Travis. Justin is the only valid
McElroy because he doesn't have pronouns in his twitter bio.
sorry if you don’t want spoilers but basically:
Taako’s twin “sister” Lup starts getting alluded to early on, but I don’t think she has much of a role until the Stolen Century arc. Tbh, I still really like the whole campaign, the whole trans thing just puts a damper on it (and debates of Taako’s ethnicity but I’ll refrain from talking about it to avoid race-sperging)
Many conservatives actually leap at the chance to trans gay kids. They prefer a gender conforming trans child to a gender nonconforming gay one.
I’ve seen it before in news articles and videos celebrating conservative religious parents supporting their children transitioning. They tell the child “you can’t wear a tutu, you can’t be a princess, you can’t play with dolls, those are girl things” so the kid says “okay then I am a girl” and the parents accept it rather than having a son who wants to be feminine.
80% of childhood and adolescent cases of gender dysphoria clear themselves up naturally without intervention and the most common result is they become a GNC gay adult.
It's exactly because of Japanese conservatism that they can not comprehend how a man can be attracted to other men but the man having a "female brain" and being attracted to other men is understandable. Thus this trans shit makes more sense than gay rights. Most Japanese trans people I have met are HSTS.
Japanese people are very big on gender essentialism or the idea that males and females have innately different essences. They legit think a man eating sweet things makes him "feminine" and a woman eating spicy food is "masculine". Women are discouraged from becoming chefs because they menstruate which makes their hands "too hot" to handle sushi yet it is their duty to cook for their families every day.
Marriage also serves much more of an important social service to ensure women reproduce thus allowing gay people the right to marry is seen as "unproductive" since they are incapable of naturally reproducing (and most gay couples choose to not have kids). To Japanese politicians, allowing gay marriage serves no practical benefit and the birth rate is already dropping so they see gay marriage as a way to hasten the decline of their population.
Not giving gays their rights is sort of like a way to punish them for not "conforming" or "contributing" to society.
Tbh I blame Buddhism (mostly Theravada in SEA) for this. While it teaches people that homosexuality is innate rather than a choice, it also teaches them that you can be born in the wrong body so you have people trooning out all over the place in Thailand or people becoming third genders in Indonesia.
Homophobia was not as bad in East/Southeast Asian countries when compared to Europe/Middle East/North Africa due to Abrahamic religions not being very influential so we have a lot of cases of men being allowed to have male lovers if they fulfilled their duties of keeping a wife to provide heirs (so basically bi men were accepted and gay men had to be functionally bi). Of course women are never allowed to have female lovers since they are a resource for men to produce more babies with and aren't allowed sexual freedom (if they are even thought to be capable of having their own sexual desires at all).
During the era of Western colonisation in Asia, a lot of East/Southeast Asians were taught to view homosexuality as a "mental disorder" by Europeans and homosexual acts became illegal under their rule. One of the worst affected was the Philippines since the Spanish converted them to Catholicism but they do seem to have some leftover beliefs from their time as an Indianized archipelago hence the trooning out.
This reads like copypasta even though I know it's 100% unironic.
Ah yes the two genders:>The Smiths and Little League baseball, drugs and debauchery, tight asses, and homoerotic
and>Vegan cooking, Venus of Willendorf statues and discussions of sperm banks
I ask myself the same question. Why do anons care for that pathetic shitshow of a country? Straight up one of the worst
places for women
Honestly not going to like i generally like them at least more than your regular tumblrtroon because they realize that the whole "u dont need dyphowia to be a twanz" is bullshit and some even realize they won't ever be a "real woman" and they made peace with being only "trans" which i actually respect more than this "transwoman are real women" bullshit.>>637
I hope 2020 is the decade where the population hits peak trans including lots of troons detransitioning since tranny bullshit is at an all time high right now
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Absolutely. I think most women struggle with this, and I'm still not in the place I want to be wrt to it. But I think there really are a lot of small things you can start doing and keep doing, even when it's hard, that slowly change this part of you. It's one of my favorite things about radical feminism–it's hard, scary, and a lot less fun than pop feminism, but the freedom it can help you find is a lot deeper and more real. Libfeminism could sort of bring me fun, but radfeminism has brought me freedom and the actual joy that freedom allows.
Some stuff that's helped me: exercise that I do because I love doing it that isn't focused on calorie burning (for me this is dance) that helps me think of my body is terms of strength and flexibility and not thinness, reading books/watching movies/etc by women that feature non-Barbie looking women, unfollowing models/influencers/etc, noticing when I'm in a "oh god I'm ugly" spiral and doing something RIGHT THEN to absorb my mind. Silliest way that manifests: talking to an imaginary person about a movie I hate, explaining it detail why I hate it, lol.
I sometimes feel like I was poisoned from a very young age, and that the poison might never leach entirely from my bones. Like I still definitely think in terms of "am I hot do I look hot for men" even though, like you, I'm not ever really looking to be with a man ever again. But there are ways to fight back and become more free, little by little. I hope what people say really is true, and that as I age, I'll care less and less. My grandma was every inch the midcentury gorgeous Betty Draper type, but she always said she loved her last twenty years as an old woman best because she didn't care about being beautiful anymore.
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They think gay male culture is The Smiths, Little League baseball, drugs, debauchery, tight asses, and homoerotic 'I love you man' moments; whereas lesbian culture is Ani DiFranco, roller derby, womyn's lands, vegan cooking, Venus of Willendorf statues, and discussions of sperm banks.
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I don't know if this belongs here but I recently found this Wikipedia article on GNC women, gender expression, and lesbians in Thailand and found it kind of interesting.
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I don't understand why people like Jamil. She's just another annoying libfem celebrity.
said seems correct to me from an inside perspective, we go over the top to seem more progressive than the USA even when it harms people. Look at the Joshua Boyle verdict, of course he got off largely because of his connections and his father, but it would be unlikely to assume there wasn't also a fear of backlash over religiously persecuting him if he was punished for abusing his wife.
Canada is becoming increasingly unsafe for women in my opinion because more and more high profile predators are being excused, and women's spaces are vanishing fast. But I feel like people assume that's crazy talk.
How do you avoid this? I was thinking maybe the solution is to ask to be treated by doctors who are female and/or black only, but I can imagine some services not knowing this information and refusing, thinking it's some hateful/discriminatory thing.
There's already countless anecdotal stories of even white women being gaslit about their own health by incompetent, retarded scrote doctors, and they end up suffering for it. I feel like being a woman and
black in that context might as well be a death sentence.
Some women are giving advice in the comments section. A couple have said to make sure the doctor documents when they refuse to run a test on you or give you treatment you ask for. They either do it and or it scares then to actually do it and check you.
Sad you have to do it anyway, but ya know…
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What’s the word for troon Nigel-posting?
iirc there was drama when Jazz dated a boy and his parents were super upset that he could be gay, and in turn Jazz's family had a meltdown over "NO THIS IS OUR DAUGHTER WHO IS NOT A GAY MALE"
It all reeks of massive cope and homophobia.
I remember that one clip from I Am Jazz in which Jazz was sitting in the car with his mother, telling her that he doesn't really like guys and is attracted to a female friend of his. The mother was fucking mortified and had a spergout over how he should give men a chance, he just has to try enough times to "find the right one" etc. I can just imagine this bitch counting 1 + 1 in her mind, transing her effeminate son irreversibly because he might be gay, then it turns out he might be straight after all.
And the second scenario >>825
mentioned, Jazz had awkwardly started dating this boy (iirc the same he told his mother that he isn't really interested in) and the boy's mother said something along the lines of "You kept on saying retarded homophobic stuff and now you're dating a boy yourself?" and Jazz's mother was fucking enraged over it, rambling on about how "SHE's not a boy, SHE's a girl so your son is NOT gay and neither is our daughter!!!!" like being gay was the worst thing ever. I was at loss of words watching this unfold, they're being blatantly homophobic on screen and everyone focuses on the mother being strong and brave for defending her "daughter's" gender identity. Fucking clown world bullshit man.
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TQ+ discourse is so confusing.
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Transbians are always the most disgusting
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This is the exact type of person who would get the word "faggot" tattooed on them lmao
Was this girl just exposed to a lot of gay porn/yaoi when she were young? cuz this shit reads like a really bad fanfic. The choice of words and fixation on the baseball team is kind of unsettling.>>820
It's most likely because they've developed a fetish because they consume a lot of anime porn.They probably love the idea of being a super kawaii moe blob that everyone loves and life will magically become better. Kinda like how those psychos on r9k think taking hrt/becoming "fembois" is the best way to escape being an incel.
Shit is fucked and I hate how the anime community defends it.
I know a lot of straight women who aren't into yaoi but do have a fetish for gay men. Meanwhile they are disgusted by bi men and they really, really hate lesbians whereas gay men are sort of like this non-threatening accessory to them. They want gay best friends and sometimes they want to be desired by gay men even though that is impossible so they start to imagine themselves as gay men to be attractive to them.
Blanchard wrote about how autohomoeroticism is more pronounced among straight TiFs >>541
where they get off by imagining themselves having gay male sex while straight TiMs get off by imagining themselves having female bodies.
maybe not that fact back but fanfic does goes waaaay back. The Aeneid was straight up a fanfic, half the Eclogues are basically slash fiction, Virgil was a dirty slasher that managed to be in his own fanfic by Dante Aligheri. Hell shipping wars date back to ancient Greece, when famed philosophers would hold public arguments about whether it was Achilles or Patroclus who took top.
I guess what I'm saying is My Immortal is actually a philosophical textbook and should be revered as such, as one day it will be recorded as significant historical literature by our ancestors whether we like it or not.
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>>903>These fictional gay romances mimic the dynamics of heterosexual couples far more than actual homosexual male couples
sadly this is common in a lot of yaoi
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>>897>Meanwhile they are disgusted by bi men and they really, really hate lesbians whereas gay men are sort of like this non-threatening accessory to them.>They want gay best friends and sometimes they want to be desired by gay men even though that is impossible so they start to imagine themselves as gay men to be attractive to them.
That's really disturbing actually. Saw this post a couple of day ago mention something similar about gay men being appealing because they're non-threatening.
The more I look into it the bleaker it becomes, jesus christ.
Yes, becoming pseudobi is pretty common among AGPs since they are still attracted to women but now also want to be fucked by faceless men to "validate" their femaleness.>>955
No. She's just peak transed.
I left this comment on her video a week ago and she deleted it:>“Women are always expected to make themselves sexually available to men. Women are not viewed as fully actualised beings but as a resource in this society for men to use. A woman telling a man that she is not interested in him is seen as an insult to a man and men often kill women for their rejection. Men of all races, classes, or creeds are OBSESSED with penises since they view it as a weapon to enact sexual violence or superior to the vagina. Men will compare their penises, take photos of their penises, take medication to make their penises larger, believe their penis is inherently tied to their worth as a man so female sterilisation is more frequent in population control even though it’s more invasive + less effective than sterilising men, graffiti penises over things, many cultures worshipped penises while viewing vaginas as disgusting etc. Trans women aren’t an exception to this since they were socialised male and usually have a penis. These trans-identified males are often obsessed with their penises than non-trans males.”
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Hahaha, holy shit.
You literally never see the term "Trans-identified males" outside GC online spaces.>>963
I will concede despite being more 'Gender Critical', like her I still believe sex dysphoria exists. Seeing lesbians guilt-tripped into liking pene is peaking people.>>970
That's how I originally understood it, before I saw how it was actually used. You guys gotta bare in mind she's like /the/ biggest Lesbian with a YouTube platform, with still a big trans following. At least "truscum" at this point, the rest have already called her out as a 'bigot'. She's running a tightrope.
Of course dysphoria exists, the question is whether it is the result of something like a fetish (AGP/AHE) and homophobia (HSTS); or if it is actually an inborn condition arising from an incongruence of physical sex and "brain sex" (which is basically just HBS).>>993
They have been for awhile. Just search up TEHMs.
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Transbians be like that.
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Ah yes, the baeddels.
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>The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms has announced it is representing another esthetic salon against Jessica Yaniv at the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal.
>The She Point Beauty Salon, owned and operated by women of the Sikh religion, has become the newest target for Yaniv’s litigation after declining Yaniv a leg wax. In their Tuesday morning Press Release, the Justice Centre notes that leg waxes are performed in private with the client undressed or nude from the waist down. Citing religious and safety reasons, the salon refused Yaniv service.
He's at it again.https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-jessica-yaniv-sues-more-women-salon-owners-for-wax-job-refusal/
Haha man, the unholy combination…
Reminds me of a personal encounter with a possible AGP. There was this guy I was friends with for a brief moment who was studying IT and told me he might be trans. We were talking about it for a bit and then he said: "The first thing I wanna do when I'm a girl is wear knee socks." From that moment I knew I had to stay away from him.
They are butch lesbians who are attracted to other butch lesbians but they both have dysphoria. When they become trans men they have to adopt TRA logic which means they are both actually gay men.
A lot of lesbians think trans men are hot because they look like tomboys or butches and a lot of trans men identify as lesbians before gender transition. This means they are well-connected to the lesbian community or already had a lesbian gf but because they are "men" now, their gf might have to identify as bisexual to "validate" their gender.
I knew this butch/femme couple and the butch hated her body and began to question if she was non-binary or a trans man because she was being infected by her friend group's tumblr stupidity and her conservative Latino Catholic parents. The couple planned to get married and the femme was supportive of whatever the butch wanted to do but she could never bring herself to identify as bi and still saw her fiancée as female so she could never considered them a "straight couple". I wasn't a libfem but still somewhat supportive to trans issues but the whole situation confused me and made me wonder if a lot of people transitioned due to societal pressures like homophobia and not the "wrong brain in body" theory.
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You only get “access to womanhood” if you’re a woman, tittyhaver.
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God this girl's entire account is a fucking cringe fest. I don't understand why it's so difficult to admit that you're bisexual? She said she's dated men before, it's not as if this troon dick is her first dick. "Lesbians" capering for troons will never not fucking make me want to die.
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Someone on my friends list just posted this, so many bad takes.
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This is literally a straight couple
Seriously, what the fuck makes a woman a woman if not her biology? What makes a man a man if not for his? I hate this stupid take because it makes no fucking sense. People also have the right not to sleep with anyone they don't want to sleep with for whatever reason, and crying "transphobia" over it doesn't change the fact that you're promoting rape rhetoric.
I hate the whole "man-woman is a European concept" shit too. It's not. Even if it was, you're blatantly disregarding that the only people who made up these third/forth/fifth genders were homosexuals and that the concept of a third gender was steeped in homophobia, which is an actual thing that actually affects people unlike transphobia. What they consider transphobia is either homophobia or rape rhetoric.
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>>1172>>1173>"bi"lesbians>do not define lesbians as "same-sex attracted individuals"
This is literally clown world . LITERALLY.
The amount of support these posts tend to have is fucking scary.
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it's a big cope for techbros to fantasize about wiping out women across the planet. that the tech of those wombs would most likely stay in hospitals. I've heard alot that the focus of them is to help premie babies develop. Or to help endangered species. It'll never be some commercial item you can buy at the store lol. >>1233
there's so much support online and from countries ran by clowns but wasn't there a poll showing that publics approval for tras were dropping? Remember reading something like that a while back. It's being pushed too fast that's its going to crash and burn
I was referring to the European definition of racism. I'm an Americafag & I'm sure a lot of TRAs who make those comparisons are as well.
Honestly didn't know about these cultural differences had names so I'll be researching those in a while, thank you!
I think you're thinking about this too deeply. African religions couldn't survive a few generations of slavery so I don't think feminist attitudes would survive either, especially considering how tribes were shuffled once they arrived in the colonies.
I do think it has a lot to do with the culture of candour among black Americans though. You call a spade a spade. If a black person pulled the "tHeY'rE aCtUaLlY wOmEn" card around other black people they'd be dragged until they realized what they're saying is fucking stupid.
>>1208>transwomen are real women. They're not the same as cis women, but black women aren't the same as white women, either.
Fuck off, racist. People think black women and white women are somehow magically "different" from one another due to bullshit race hangups. Black women and white women both have periods, give birth, are at risk for breast cancer, if they have a stroke, the signs for it aren't the same as they are for a man. Black women and white women both deal with the same sexist bullshit from males and the same violence from MALES.
Transwomen share none of this with women.
Nearly all American slaves came from West Africa and there is a lot of misogyny in the region. Many of them practise FGM and believe women to be property of their husbands.
The traditional homeland of the human species was East Africa and it’s thought that the Hadza there are one of the oldest ethnic groups on the planet so they have retained the traditional hunter-gatherer lifestyle of early humans. They have a fluid tribal structure, ambilocality, serial monogamy, and all resources are shared. But just because the Hadza are so genetically distinct from other people which means a deep isolation and even if they do live in the traditional human homeland, we can’t say for sure that the lifestyle they practise today is anything like what they did 10,000 years ago let alone 100,000. Their culture has already drastically changed since the European colonization of Africa so a lot of them wear modern Western clothing and they are losing their land to pastoralists. Hadza have a gendered division of labor and men get more respect than women but there doesn’t seem to be a culture of misogyny or female subservience like in other African cultures or in Europe, or anywhere else really. >>1320
You’re correct but Traditional West African religions were far from women-friendly and many enslaved African people were actually Muslims. When they were under the ownership of white Americans they were converted to Christianity which is still the dominant religion among black American today. However, as part of the Civil Rights Movement some black Americans sought to learn about their history and embrace their heritage which meant converting to Islam since it was the religion of their ancestors pre-slavery.
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Has anyone seen this? Is he coming out as trans because he's mentally ill or did he get all those Ken Doll surgeries to run away from his trans-ness?>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7860243/Human-Ken-Doll-Rodrigo-Alves-seen-time-coming-transgender-woman.html
sage in case this is OT
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They will always play the victim. TiMs managed to shut people down from calling out their misogyny and now they want to get away with pedophilia too.
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Here's an example of his art.
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But it's not a fetish!!
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I just want him to die already.
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When a literal baby girl (like, months old) was raped and feminists were talking about violence towards girls etc, Katelyn Burns said that the babies "gender" had nothing to do with the rape.
This man, who btw left his wife and 2 children to play his fetish 24/7, made a babies rape about HIM.
KF has a big thread about him. He also purcahsed a couch so he could fuck guys he met on grindr on it rather than buy his children beds. Pretty sure his ex-wife was done with his shit when he blew up about his children celebrating Mother's day with their actual Mother instead of him.
He's honestly a great cow and deserves a thread. He just got his stinkditch a few months back and is already crying no men will fuck him anymore or be seen in public with him lol
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These idiots literally think that women cant be tall and have big shoulders because women r not like that in their porn and anime kek
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I just read that there's a distinction between TRA and trans people, and that radfeminist (???????) transmen call themselves "tbros".
1. Why do we make a distinction between trans and TRA? They both are on the wrong and reinforce toxic gender roles and stereotypes? What?
2. How (HOW?) can you be a radfem and a trans person at the same time, I just-
Do these people even know what the movement is about?????
Pic unrelated but I thought it was funny so I wanted to share.
Being trans and believing in biological sex aren't always mutually exclusive just because the nutjobs hijacked the entire movement. Some trans people with severe dysphoria may still choose to undergo medical transition to emulate the secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex even if they know they aren't literally going to become the opposite sex.
Considering this, they can choose to be on the side of women's sex based rights in the trans debate and support women's issues in general. They're biologically female so it makes sense to be against the oppression of females.
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Omg that pic! The TQ is more of a parasite cuckoo forcing itself to be fed and protected by the LGB while kicking it's real eggs out though.
transmen "terfs" are so annoying. it's one thing to be open and willing to discuss ur dysphoria online, or to discuss women's rights while passing as a man irl.
its another thing to go "FUCK MEN THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DYSPHORIA AND GENDER" and in the same breath go "but also call me aiden and use he/him pronouns, if i'm perceived as woman like the rest of you i'll die instantly" or even worse, "you can't critique men because I, a transman, identify with men and their traits and feel attacked by this"
i dont think publically medically transitioning for personal comfort and dysphoria is an positive contribution to radical communities at all. i see more women coming out as trans men "terfs" who still bind and need pronouns and give terrible advice to other dysphoric women, and I've seen very few dysphoric detransitioning radical feminist women who actually have experience combating dysphoria without depending on transmedicalism.
tbros are worse then liberal women in that they know they depend on destructive gender roles to house their egos, yet they refuse to leave, doubling down on testosterone and binding and saying they've had too much surgery to reidentify as a woman. but if educated radical women don't detransition openly, how will other young transmen learn that they can detransition despite having numerous changes and surgeries as well?
imo you have you be at least gender critical to ID as a truTERF, ie, you know gender is fake and a waste of time and sex is immutable. people that still play with gender and ID as TERFS are laughable.
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TQ is the worst cancer imaginable
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I love this
It really shows you how they despise an ugly or just plain women. they're killing themselves because the thought scares them>>1452
In current year the statement a woman is not a man is revolutionary. It's just sad to think about
i agree with the bulk of your post but i disagree that wearing makeup or fucking men doesn't make you a radfem. it's stupid to be with men, but you cant fault women with acne, needing to wear it for work, or for wanting to self harm through relationships with men. it doesn't negate their beliefs and their activism otherwise, so long as they're willing to admit that these things suck. wearing makeup is not a feminist act but being that they're under pressure to do so, or be penalized, some women simply aren't in the position to be able to buck it. i think there's a big difference between loudly admitting that these things are NOT okay, they're not smart or feminist actions, and they suck, but still engage in them and argue against them. defending makeup, for example, while claiming to be a radfem obviously conflicts, and it's not smart to be with men in most cases, but imo, as long as women admit their men are likely losers and their relationships are more than likely to cause them suffering while men benefit, that doesn't conflict. giving support and encouraging voluntary celibacy but being the type of masochist that wants to deal with drooling retards nonetheless in her personal life doesn't negate what she supports, ideally, imo. you can support the right answers wholeheartedly and still admit you're making dumb choices.
the problem is that a lot of "radfems" want to defend men, defend their sons, defend the nuclear family, marriage, etc, and claim radical feminism. that just doesn't work. afaik there's no "you must not wear makeup" radical feminist stipulation, though that's obviously closer to living your truth.
>>1461>Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially.
I know people tend to be walking contradictions, but being a radfem transmale takes the prize. I don't get what's your deal or what kind of mental gymnastics have you made up to believe women accepting gender roles is radfeminist but ok. You aren't radfem, just so you know. (You said "we" so I guess you're refering to yourself as tbro as well)>>1467
Nta but I agree with her. While I don't mean for everyone to suddenly go outside with their legs unshaved or stop fucking men, I think whinning all day about patriarchy and doing NOTHING to strike back against it it's just like if the Sufragettes had just talked about how wonderful would it be to have the right to vote while sitting all day sipping tea without doing nothing to change their situation.
You don't have to make radical changes in your life style, but slowly working on yourself to start accepting your body hair, your face without makeup, EVERYTHING IS PERFECT AND NATURAL ON THE HUMAN BODY. I still can't bear the courage to go outside with my legs unshaved, but I refuse to shave them and I have been avoiding it for two years straight. However, I don't wear makeup anymore. It was a gradual change. I know everyone can do it, don't be hopeless and don't try to shrug off your image issues. They will only become worse. I'll keep working on mine too.
And, as I like to say, some people just need to see others doing that thing they always wanted to do but felt ashamed of. That's how you start revolutions. Let's try to start it.
>>1477>>1477>I think whinning all day about patriarchy and doing NOTHING to strike back against it
that's not comparable. you can wear makeup but still do activism that results in material change. some women have severe cystic acne and people associate it with being unhygienic, are bullied, penalized, etc, for something they can't help. some women are under the poverty line and can't afford to skip their undereye concealer and be fired or treated like shit at work when they're depending on their meager job. none of this negates their beliefs or activism. the conflicts come when they're out here painting their faces for fun or defending makeup. none of this doesn't make them radical feminists. they're just not FEMINIST ACTIONS. it doesn't mean they aren't radical feminists. these women could be working on their issues. to cut and dry say "you're not a radical feminist because you wear concealer" is insane and has nothing to do with radical feminism. saying "you're not a radical feminist because you're a thatcherite" is different, true, and is a non-negotiable, however.
there is a big difference between not living by ANY of your principles, and doing a few things that you disagree with, but you do to get by in life. some women are simply not in the position to buck these things, as i said, and it doesn't mean they aren't radical feminists. it's not only autistic, but totally wrong and not a thing, to insist women can't be radical feminists because they wear foundation or date men but openly and loudly admit they're not feminist actions and aren't advisable at all. if they're defending these practices and defending men, that's another thing entirely.
No, no, you got me wrong. I fully agree with you here, if you don't have the option to change things (like you said about the job) or the backlash is too strong to bear, then I get it. I alredy said that I don't have the courage to go outside without hiding the hair in my legs, because that would be a very controversial thing to do and I don't think I'm prepared to bear the consequences.
>the conflicts come when they're out here painting their faces for fun
This is what I was talking about: the extreme example of a person who has the means to change their life style but won't do it because of petty reasons or laziness towards change, because I think that's not an excuse to conform to gender roles. Sorry for giving the wrong idea.
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Anyone else here bummed to learn that Catharine MacKinnon supports troons, It seems to me that she is too brilliant and too radical to not recognize that the trans phenomenon is problematic in at least some ways. Any thoughts on how her position on this issue came to be?
this isn't about troons but males shouldn't be on female wards. When I was raped I tried to OD and was involuntary committed to a mixed sex ward. I disclosed I was raped, I begged the nurses and psychologists not to put me on the ward. They did anyway and didn't let me file a police report. They just gave me an aids test. I was hit on by males. There was on situation where a male attendant got angry at me for pointing out another girl was in her room suicidal. I came out of that place 10x worse and loathing males.
All the women there had severe sexual trauma. All the men were there for drug addiction. I'm not shitting over addicts here, but the males sucking dick for crack should not be in the same ward as the girl raped as a child by her uncle.
Fuck mixed sex wards and fuck any tranny that forces its way in.
A lot of women transition due to trauma (nearly always child sex abuse), homophobia, and severe experiences with misogyny. They only discover radical feminism afterwards so there’s a lot of detrans radfems on twitter and some can’t detrans due to monetary, legal or health reasons or because there’s no way they could socially pass as a woman again to use female spaces etc. without making other women uncomfortable. Saying that these women who faced so much patriarchal aggression are just performing mental gymnastics and re-enforcing gender roles is ignorant of how they are pushed into those things as an act of survival.>>1482
I know a woman like this too. Her father used to stick random objects up her vagina as a little girl and he started groping her breasts when she started puberty so she hated being female and believed she would become safer by being a man. Completely fucked up the way this world treats women and girls.>>1487
It’s the legal aspect that make MacKinnon question what a “woman” by law even means.
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Kek, and just two years ago she was getting hate for wearing "vagina pants" because they were considered "terfy".
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This site is going to fucking shit. People who speak like this on image boards deserve lifetime IP bans. Whatever they do with the XX threads I don’t really care, as long as nobody here ever stands for this shit.
Sam Smith is such a disgusting little man. "Hurr i have feminine energy because I'm submissive in sex and like to feel pretty."
Like are people really expecting women to call him they/their when his whole fucking reasoning for it is based on misogyny? I'm not going to help validate or normalize his views by playing that game.
I saw some parents are concerned about a book being purchased for middle schools and looked up the synopsis out of curiosity:
"Lily and Dunkin narrate the book from alternating points of view. Lily, who is a boy, wants to be a girl. Most of her family has accepted that she is transgender, but her dad refuses to accept it. To make matters worse, kids at school always pick on her for looking different. Lily tries to get along with everyone, praying that it will get better one day. She can’t wait until she’s able to officially change her name from Timmy McGrother to Lily."
"Meanwhile, Lily’s friend, Dare, starts acting strangely. She’s a tomboy who supports Lily and wants her to be happy, but she’s hiding secrets of her own. Dare thinks she’s a lesbian, but she’s not ready to share that with Lily. She’s worried that Lily will assume Dare is in love with her, and it will ruin their friendship. Lily knows that Dare is hiding something, but she doesn’t know how to confront her about it. This takes a toll on their friendship."
"For much of the book, Dunkin explores his conflicting feelings about Tim and Lily. He finds Tim attractive, but he knows that Tim is really Lily. He briefly questions his own sexuality and what his feelings mean, but as this is primarily a middle-grade novel, romance isn’t explored in the narrative."
I don't even know where to fucking start.
Please tell me that woman got help and her father got killed somehow. Anytime I hear a scrote whine about how girls are treated like princesses and made to believe they are, I think of those cases. >>1487
Start at point blank and ask them what is a woman
. They'll never answer because deep down, tras want women to just be a feeling or a status
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loling at how high the onision subreddit is in sharing common users with r/gendercritical. how many farmers post there?https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/gendercritical
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>>1462>conservative women>radical feminist
Imagine being a Christian radical feminist.
idk, but i really hate female dating strategy. a lot of it to me seems like stooping down to men's levels (ofc it's still nowhere near as bad) and finding it okay because "they do it to us!"
isn't there a female dating strategy thread here though too?
I've found the most effective strategy is just to introduce them to trans forums. The #girlslikeus tag on Twitter and /asktransgender on Reddit are my favorites. I play dumb and say "Oh trans issues are SO important but I prefer to listen and learn so I read this forum."
And then I leave them to it. Troons do the peaking for me just by being themselves. I check back in a few months, subtly raise a few GC talking points, and every single time the libfem has been singing a very different tune from when I first talked to her. It's so funny.
One girl went from a very intense pro-troon libfem to saying stuff like "I don't think male people ever lose their privilege" in private to me after reading asktransgender. I didn't even have to do anything.
damn youre still here doing this 3 days later. if you have gc leave the fucking thread.>>1559>>1558
and you're samefagging too now. Get a life.
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Ppl w vaginas
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i'm so tired of this shit. I'm actually really fucking pissed at how things are right now.
I hate trannies,i despise them
this,they're the reason some of us have to hide. Like me.
They witch hunt whoever doesn't suck troon cocks and admit they are totes real women!!!
You can get death,rape,…threats and more if you're openly GC
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he does pass facially but damn he big, bigger than literally any other guy he stands around too. there are some women this size though so tbh based on that alone i wouldnt be able to tell. he does pass but is enormous.
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honestly, this explains a lot. The facetune abuse, the horrible fillers, his drag style of makeup, his way of talking like a gay man, his massive size. He was on puberty blockers and still came out 6'3. What a waste. He's been on youtube since he was like 13 so his parents must have started him on a medicalized path really early.
r/BeautyGuruChatter is doing the expected libfem "omg she's soooo brave i'm literally crying" bullshit but quite a few of them are talking about how his fiance was apparently not aware of any of this lmaooo.
As a tall woman built like a brick i feel so bad when i see this shit,no wonder some people think i'm a troon
that's what being a woman is to this kind of garbage human.
Pwetty skiwts and long hair and pink and boobies UwU
So where are the actual women beauty gurus. The top ones are either gay men or trannies now telling women how to be attractive with drag makeup>>1702>his fiance wasn't aware of this
So he had bottom surgery? How was he not aware lol
I don't keep up with gurus but I didn't expect that.
Is there any famous woman guru? I'm sick of gay men telling women how to dress, how to do make up, how to be women. Fuck off.
I could understand an insecure 13 year old watching them for beauty advice but 20something year old women watching that shit need to grow the fuck up. They need to stop giving views to anti-feminist drivel unless they're the liberal feminist types who think make-up IS feminism and that participating in make-up culture is some sort of activism rather than the patriarchal expectation.
Sheila Jeffreys was right when she said make-up culture makes women stupid because they spend all their money and time on rapidly shifting trends for male approval instead of working on real self-improvement or female liberation.
>>1686>My mom has always supported me
She didn't want a feminine gay son, she wanted a girl since he was in the womb>>1689
He looks like a terribly made character creator that doesn't raise just the height but everything on the character.
Or at least go back to clean makeup that's minimal and simple. I'm sure the tims and male beauty gurus would throw a fit if women changed course and just started rejecting their drag makeup methods since they wouldn't be able to pass without those 10 step routines. >>1732
Maybe a couple out of the thousands of surgeries end up kinda decent. But still it's just a hole that your body is desperately trying to repair, hence the dilation. Take a peak over at forums of neovags and see the pics and read the horror stories. Puss, blood, literal feces and sometimes hair is expelled. Then the smell and pain. It's not surprising that alot of tims suicide even after surgery. It doesn't fix shit.
It's a giant human experiment for doctors to do these types of surgeries and should be illegal tbh. No one sane wants that.>>1736
Libfems are the final boss of picks mes
I noticed that there's on poster who always is really aggressive, types strictly in all lower case and uses lots of abbreviations, that might be the same person.
But that wouldn't be a problem if mods and admins wouldn't go along with everything they say
Yeah, that poster is very obvious. They always describe any GC talk as "screaming and crying" too.
Why ARE handmaidens so often very aggressive like that anyway? They always seem to be so angry and volatile like they're ready to start screaming any second if you disagree with them, no matter how polite you are.
What a disappointment. I stopped watching him because of his shady ass sponsorship practices, but i think he was actually quite talented without the facetune.>>1741
It's funny to see other farmers throw out the word "radfem" and terf" whenever something even remotely tranny offensive gets said. Most GC people i know, including me, aren't even radfem and hate trannies. Kiwifarms hate trannies and that place isn't radfem central, neither is 4chan or etc.>>1747
They feel justified because we're the "bad guys". We're "literally killing trans people" by just arguing about transgender politics.
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Some say that women are stealing from the culture of the men who pretend they are women.
Kinda surprising but not at the same time. The weight really does hide it better. Well, that and choosing to be filmed from the chest up, at most.>>1715
Lisa Eldridge and pixiwoo, though they're not as famous as the typical Youtube beauty guru types. Probably because they're women and they actually know what the fuck they're doing.
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No woman wants their clown makeup and style.
Same with fashion. Look how Céline, a brand for women by a woman, became this coked Parisian girl fantasy made by a gay man.
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I often see articles on mainstream media about how gay men or men of color can be misogynistic because they are men yet never anything about how trans-identified men are misogynists. Instead they are portrayed as the victims
and somehow women are oppressing them. Why out of every group of men do we excuse the men who think they can get uterus or vulva transplants lmao.
So things women have that men don't:
-Ovaries/ability to rear children
-Ability to exist peacefully without associating everything with sex
-Ability to exist peacefully without trying to find excuses to commit violence
-A natural desire for healthy community which doesn't revolve around money
-No power complex
-No obsessions with particular body parts
-Doesn't think every stranger needs to service your body parts
-Good at looking after animals
-Intelligent without boundaries, distractions
-Can be a high achiever and create art without having some dark history of sexual assault or worse to counter it
-Respect for other humans
-Generally softer and prettier regardless of size or shape
-Not the people who do 96% of the murders and rapes
-Find it easier to be good friend, loyal, kind etc than a man does/can be a good human without financial or sexual motivation
-A creative mind that is constantly changing, learning and growing
Makeup and hair and shit are not what makes us female, but being pretty with comparitively low effort is something all women have.
Not gonna but you sound pretty delusional if you didn't know men have been controlling the beauty industry since forever and make billions of dollars out of telling women they're ugly and brainwashing them into self-objectification. >>1781>being pretty with comparitively low effort is something all women have.
Being female means being of the sex which creates ova, it has nothing to do with looking pretty. That itself is sexist.
Again, compared to males. I assume anon is confused by what they see as feminine things being coopted by males, however the immense effort those males have gone to (surgery, drugs, etc) in order to invade women's communities shouldn't be understated.
Jeffree star openly hates women and gays yet that is his entire customer base. They insert themselves into things they hate
as a power game.
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lmao even when you try to uplift women you resort to sexist stereotypes and put emphasis on women's worth being tied to their attractiveness.
They would make us subordinate to them even if we had lower empathy; all they have is physical strength over us. Men have almost no empathy or ability to love, it's a fact which isn't a negative reflection on women but on men.
Don't consider your biological traits as bad simply because they are used as "excuses" by manipulative sociopaths, who would abuse women even if our only difference (sexual dimorphism) was in height and weight. Everything males do is about power.
It was in relevance to Nikkie tutorials, a literal beauty youtuber?
People on this board are dumb; you really just want to slit your own wrists and be unhappy. You actually argue against
biological facts about yourself because muh male abuse.
I'm NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO THESE THINGS. I'M SAYING THEY ARE THINGS MEN LACK. YOUR NATURAL TRAITS ARE NOT NEGATIVE.
Enjoy arguing amongst yourselves.
Shut the fuck up. You are not revolutionary by saying women are naturally more nurturing or pretty. This is the same gender essentialism that cultures have used for millennia to argue that women's role as a sex object or babymaker is innate and unchangeable. >>1797
r/gendercritical is full of conservatives or "terfservatives".
Rule of thumb: if a man would find it sexy or endearing, it's man-approved femininity. If a man would find it weird or stupid, proceed.
Not a perfect example, but a lot of dudes think Lolita is fucking weird and that's why it became so popular.
Lol at this reaction. Do you throw tantrums in real life when people tell you you're wrong? Women aren't naturally more empathetic. At most, we're socialized to act like we are.>>1807
Are you samefagging? Literally no one said empathy was bad, just that it's retarded to claim women are somehow more empathetic. Unless you have something other than bullshit pseudoscience to back that up.
May I direct you towards: Male crime stats. 96% of murders. 96% of child rape/pedophilia. (hard to find adult rape stats but it's likely to be the same, most victims
of rape are female)
If you really think all
crime can be attributed to male socialization alone, and otherwise males and females are exactly the same? If women were socialized differently we would all be rapin' children and killing? Nothing to do with testosterone's effect on the human body? k
>>1807>I feel sorry for those who view the world through male eyes and think empathy is a bad trait to have.
Nobody said empathy was a bad thing but the irony of you saying "male eyes" when you're saying the exact same things males do.
>Listening to male excuses for abuse is also a mistake. They abuse and control because they enjoy it, not because of "reasons."
Abusing others can give you material benefits. Capitalism is a system that rewards human greed where people are slowly destroying the Earth and each other but they won't stop because they get money; Europeans invented racism to put colonized people into subhuman categories and justify exploiting them; men put women into a subordinate category and groomed the sexes using gender so they can have women be their caretakers and fucktoys, but most importantly, babymakers (they strictly control the woman's reproductive system to ensure paternity). These systems of oppression didn't just pop up out of nowhere and get re-enforced for fun.
>>1822>empathy is bad
I hope wherever you guys move to has less pointless infighting. The original post that led to this dumb subthread was a specific reply to one anon with reference to Nikkie Tutorials. It was not a thesis, just a simple summary for someone who thinks femininity is based around makeup/"female" interests alone, and was therefore distressed to find out that men were the ones running the show.
The argument is not that women have more
of x, but that men have none
(yet again, please look at the crime stats, and the specific horrors of some crimes, you cannot argue that men have any
I repeat again: women do not have "more", men have none.
If men are more object focused and women more people focused, that means women can concentrate on both
objects and people, where men can only focus on objects.
You need to view these statements as descriptions of male deficiency
. Women can do x and
y, men can either only
do y or neither
It seems you guys are viewing things in binary terms of either/or instead of correctly seeing men as broken humans who are unable to do the basics.
To be fair I am pretty sure on average women actually do have higher levels of oxytocin.>>1832
Still a retarded point since the vast majority of men will never commit a violent crime in their life. Just as bad as aut-righters going on about how blacks commit 50% of the murders, even though that's like 0.0000001% of black people taking a life.
Whats the point of this other than to celebrate your fortune and shit on the misfortune of others?
Congrats you got a supporting mom, do pass, and transitioned early. Take that 99.99% of trans people that will never be as lucky as I am.
I fucking hate "coming out" stories like this. You did nothing stunning or brave. You didn't indure any hardships. You're as privileged as they come.
Samefagging but a major trigger
for oxytocin is physical contact. Look at how often female friends hug or touch each other when compared to men. Of course men can hug each other too but they have a stigma against being too physically affectionate which destroys that chance of creating oxytocin.
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I saw this thread on twitter, clicked the profile, and of course it's a mentally ill troon with a "headmate"
Only trannies get angry about dumb bullshit like this.
For them it's about ~validating~ their ~gender identity~, for women it's the hundreds of years of systematic oppression and invalidation of their whole being
honestly when i read this i can only hope he and others like kill themselves quick.
How the fuck did they let a man with a ""headmate"" get on tit pills? Ah well,at least with shit like this more and more women will peak trans faster i can only hope
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Look at this shit i found on this lunatic man's twitter
Somehow it's incredibly enjoyable to see them face the truth they'll never be a real woman and seethe about it because deep down they know WE are right.>>2015
Good,good,this is how i began anon.
We are starting to be more and more
I was never pro-sex work even in my libfem phase. Like >>2024
, I could never understand how that was feminist or even just a good thing.
Radical feminism was just an extension of the basic feminism I grew up with: gender is fake, make-up is sexist, men control women because of reproduction
I never was indoctrinated into liberal feminism because I had no experience with Tumblr or Twitter (I think most people get into trans cult shit through there). I was supportive of trans people getting surgery so they wouldn’t kill themselves but I struggled with using their pronouns and I did not believe TiMs experienced any of the same oppression women did. I still don’t think transphobia exists and it’s just misogyny or homophobia.
Lol on this site I feel like a lot of the userbase had massive internalized misogyny from growing up on places like 4chan then shitting on other women on LC before getting pulled into liberal feminism because of Tumblr/Twitter. Then they either peak trans and become a radfem or remain a libfem who feels like they need to defend troons from the “TERF
My story is unusual in that I was always sympathetic to communism so I had that strong distaste for liberals in general but as many of you are aware, communism (the whole left, really) has a troon infestation that has been going on for over a decade. While radical feminism has always been a part of the radical left, it was hated by a lot of leftist men and now it’s even more hated because it’s “transphobic” and they make up bullshit about it how it lacks “material reality” or is “revisionist”. The only Marxist collective I know that seems to support radical feminism is Redline while everyone else is a part of the Pronoun Party these days.
I know! They want to be hairless,have big tits,a high voice,good makeup,wear dresses,get fucked "like a girl"…
Tell me again how they aren't fulfilling a fetish or mocking us?
But on the other hand,if they do none of this it'll be even more obvious (if not equally) that they're trannies,there's no winning for them and for that i'll admit i feel bad. They can't ever be a woman no matter what they'll do.
>>2024>I thought how could it be feminist if it is just supporting what men already want?
Liberal feminism is feminism for handmaidens. Every single element of it is to the benefit of males. It sends a confusing message to women that you can either support men 100%, or be a liberal feminist and support men 100%
Radical feminism which actually supports women is of course, "bad", and men and liberal feminists are allowed to send death threats to radical feminists for not supporting males 100%, which is what feminism is all about.
Liberal feminism views women as individual agents under patriarchy, rather than focusing on class analysis like radical feminism due to radical feminism being heavily informed by Marxism. It's a bliss to be ignorant of how much males have hated females for millennia and you feel good about yourself if you apply the post-modernist approach of re-framing every action you make as a "feminist" one, such as wearing make-up.
But to say "Every single element of it is to the benefit of males" in liberal feminism is blatantly false. There are some good things that came out of liberal feminism like girls being allowed an education and women being allowed to vote.
I just think liberal feminism is useless and ineffective in the long-run as the whole system was created for the benefit of males so just changing some laws to give women certain rights still doesn't fix the underlying issues of male supremacy. I can see how radical feminism is not applicable to most everyday, ordinary women since it's so academic in nature and it can be very distressing to see how misogyny permeates every facet of society. Liberal feminism is much more easy to embrace and "useful" because the average woman cares more about making as much money as her male counterparts than she does about worldwide femicide rates.
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wow when i first heard this news i felt sick, i cant believe i ever felt bad for her, i remember her old 'natural' makeup look which was still really piled on and felt bad for her thinking she was really self conscious and was happy and surpised when i heard she was so tall, it felt great to be represented as a tall woman out there, i also felt bad for her obviously far back hairline but now i just realise its a regular mans hairline. honestly fuck this guy, i dont believe for a second he wanted to share this one day he definitely wanted to stealth for as long as he can, even his own boyfriend didnt know, thats so fucked, he deserves to be left by his bf after the lies and humiliation he caused to him. fuck nikkies mother for destorying her gay son for life. and fuck beauty industry and community, its not art, its just another chore the world expects women to do to be deemed normal, fags have to put in effort to not conform but a woman who exists naturally as herself is nonconforming with no effort. fuck the fags, trannys and men who profit over womens insecurities and tell them they only have worth if theyre beautiful. sorry for sperging, someone wake me up in 3020 when this clown shit and pseudoscience is over
With the Nikkietutorials thing, I have to wonder where all these people going “well to be fair Dutch women are a race of manfaced giants UwU” are really coming from. I know very tall women and I know women with more masculine features but all of them are still clearly female. Seeing pictures of this guy next to actual women makes it obvious something’s up, and apparently trans rumours about him had been circulating in the Netherlands for a good while. I can’t help but feel that people are just jumping at any excuse to neg an entire country of women by implying we all basically look like men.>>2078
Crocheters are so fucking weird.>t. knitter
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Those giant hands tho
On one hand,I feel a little bad for this nice grandma who probably thinks being trans is like being gay and something she has to support if she loves her granddaughter, on the other, what the fuck?? I don't know if I could handle my older relatives making me a fucking strap-on sleeve.>>2103
I hate that this degenerate is too narcissistic to be part of the 41% statistic. >>2146
So can the handmaidens cucked by Sephora all stop doing drag makeup now that they know they just look like trannies trying to pass? Tinfoil but the push for acceptance of OTT plastic surgery and heavy makeup that makes most females look worse is to level the playing field for troons.
Notice the priorities of problems @ 1:00 he mentions.
Trannies brainwashed everyone but us and now we have to hide or else be hated and witch hunted.
Radfems who are publically anti trans are the real brave ones,not a man in a dress
Hey so am i!
If we get on top of each other we stand a chance anon,time to stack up like pancakes
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This is discussed plenty but i was going through some body positivity account on instagram and it pissed me off how they said that some men are flamboyant and some women are masculine as in they're challenging the gender stereotypes then wreck that by going on saying 'not everyone who gets a period is a woman….'. it fucks me up how they want to challenge gender norms then when they dont fit into these they go and change their gender, such stupidity such contradiction.
I always wonder what would they say if asked about how does it feel to be a woman/man..
I usually never see them answer that, they just go full rage and scream transphobia
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Some women are born without a vagina because of Mayer–Rokitansky–Küster–Hauser syndrome (Müllerian agenesis). It has nothing to do with transgenderism though.
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Does anyone have images like this please? Dump them before GC dies for good.
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Since GC is in terminal care and will fade away soon enough, I wanted to reflect on the history of GC on this site.
>2-3 years ago people with GC views started surfacing and debating in trans cow threads
>Noticed that there are other like-minded people, decide to put up a GC thread (originally transpassing thread I think which got merged with several others) to centralize the discussion
>Everything goes well for a long time, GC threads start getting more and more traction
>Out of literally nowhere admin/the mod team starts having a problem with GC and GCposters are accused of "constant infighting" and other cardinal sins of the board
>I'm confused, the GC thread has always been informative and has probably the least infighting or spergery on the whole board
>Suddenly people start complaining about "pronoun derailing" very aggressively on /meta/, accusing GC posters of derailing threads because they make ">she" greentext comments or "stop calling that thing a she", something that really doesn't deviate from other ways of shitting on people playing into cow delusions
>Admin, without warning, merges the RF thread, GC thread and PP thread, only gets madder and madder when GCposters demand their thread back because it had, and still doesn't have, nothing to do with PP and a lot of GCposters don't identify as radfem
>Infighting and even more spergery ensues
>At some point people really start forcing the "admin is a tranny" narrative and become extremely hostile, something that simply hasn't been seen in the GC threads which have always been appropriate and matter-of-fact unlike the traditional manhate threads which is basically for venting and thus clashes with the regular GC posters
>All thorough this whenever GC people try to ask for reasoning why they're being treated this way the admin becomes even more enraged, people camping /meta/ jump in to tell them that "we don't want your kind here"
>Suddenly admin wants GC in particular off the site with no explanation whatsoever
>What the fuck happened?
I honestly NEVER see those "why can't we just kill and slaughter all these nasty troons amirite fellow girls" sort of posts in GC threads. A lot of posters in these threads are ex-TRAs, detransitioners, desisters, GNC, other people who take the issue to heart and understand why people feel gender dysphoria. How come the most mean-spirited and violent posts always appear outside of this thread? Did the men utilize a Trojan horse attack? The price of anonymity comes with the fact that you never know who actually started the "admin is a tranny" meme and pissed her off.
Anyway good bye girls, I hope to find a compensating place where I can continue the discussion. 3 years ago I was a tranny in making and a TRA, now I'm proud to be a woman, appreciate my gender more than ever and am much more in terms with my homosexuality. I'm thankful to the person who kept on "infighting and derailing" with me and changed my mind those years ago.
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Fuck these people. Seriously.
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Really hope the replies are trolling too. But for real, it wouldn't even surprise me, since homosexuals do get castrated by forced transitioning and everyone just thinks they're stunning and brave transwomen.
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Some OC for future use. Someone can redo it better because I only have a shitty mouse.
Anyway, it was fun while it lasted. RIP.
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Is it just me or are TIM fantasies of "putting terfs in their place" with their dicks really rapey
This yt creator made a short 7min reply video to Nikki coming out as trans in a very reasonable and polite tone. His main points:
Transpeople should let a potential partner know they are trans upon meeting and understand that some may prefer not to date trans.
When Nikki describes feeing like a girl, she does so by saying she liked doing stereotypical girly things, such as playing with dolls and painting her nails. Dude points out that how both boys and girls can like and do such activities, and questions why it equates to being a girl.
vid got posted to reddit here ( https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/epby76/transphobia_labeling_has_gone_too_far/
)and it has been upvoted like crazy. the comment section is also surprisingly civil.
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Sorry, I summarized the first part poorly - his main point was that wanting to know your partner’s status as trans upon meeting (rather than after dating and falling in love) should not be called transphobic and is in fact a very reasonable thing to want to know. >>2249
Rape by deception laws are usually very narrow in the US, but apparently in the UK, yes. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception
(I screenshot the relevant section).
There's a problem with a lot of "radfems" right now who praise conservative views. Although most were already conservatives and just pretend they're radfems to not look like your typical conservative bigot.
What women need to do is let young girls know that there is a space for them in feminist movements that actually prioritize their interests. Women should really be speaking up against it but most won't in real life because the female socialization makes them cowardly.>>2274
Speak up against it then? Like, seriously, go start up collective about it. I'm from Argentina and we legit get into fistfights with trannies over this shit. A lot of people hate us but we are getting our message across. You need to take action instead of whining.
Kek, I remember seeing how people would always skew those statistics to say that lesbians were actually the most abusive
group and claim that "male domestic violence is a myth".
It will only really reform things if they know there’s an alternative to liberal feminism other
than anti-feminism, though. Growing up I always thought that liberal feminism was the only kind of feminism and was called anti-feminist for not believing that sex work is empowering etc. I never embraced the anti-feminist label because I knew that those people didn’t have women’s best interests at heart either, but it was really confusing and isolating for a while. I eventually went back to liberal feminism only because I’d been browsing 4chan and other scrot hubs long enough to know that they absolutely despise us, and liberal feminism seemed very benign in comparison and I genuinely thought it was the only alternative.>>2277
I suspect so. Men often insult vaginas, calling them axe wounds and saying that they smell like rotten fish. I suppose it’s possible that a virgin guy whose first encounter with a “vagina” is an actual wound that smells like colon mucus may not realise that something’s off.>>2291
It’s not that
common, and women of that height still have female proportions and are recognisable as women. Dutch women may be taller than other women on average but that doesn’t mean they look like men. Nikkie still looks like a man in drag with tons of plastic surgery by Dutch standards and rumours of his being trans had been going around for years.
How come when I search Nikki I don't get content like this? How did you find it?
Looking at some of his videos he's saying the exact thing GC Feminists have been saying since forever, but of course he gets no attacks and only agreements in the comments.
Something is bothering me about this thread if i may interject,i feel like you are telling bigger women (bigger builts,bigger hands,deeper voice,hormone imbalance or an unnatural rise of testosterone causing most of these things,…) that they look like trannies. Not going to lie,i am one myself (testosterone rise during puberty) and i feel awful about it, have been called a tranny a few times and i despise them,i despise the fact that some even look more "traditionally feminine" than i do. I don't even feel like a real woman because of it.
So,i'm asking,isn't that unfair to bigger women to call out troons on how they're built in some cases? And reinforcing the fact that women should be dainty beings? Unless we're talking Bruce Jener or Stefonknee (shudder) type of tranny,which i don't think or hope any woman looks like.>>2318
some do from what i could manage to stomach but for the most they are uncanny or straight up axe wounds.
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The inceloid rhetoric is getting more unbearable by the day. When will these unfuckable hags get it through their thick skulls that no one has to fuck or date you if you're trans. Withholding that information on purpose denies them of informed consent.
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They're so sensitive.
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I miss the days when RationalWiki was decent and making fun of Conservapedia. It wasn't infested with troons yet, just a bunch of annoying nu-atheists. Their radical feminist article was actually rational but now it's full of 'TERFS ARE EVIL' propaganda.
Some of RFH was legit crazy with the pseudoscience but they made a lot of good points.
>fantasizing about the impending extinction of the Y chromosome, development of parthenogenesis and instigation of a lesbian utopia
This is unironically based.
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Is this tranny bullshit? Saw on post secret and it makes no sense. I know clits get engorged and swell up but damn
Either this is a tranny or female hyena.
Although the longest ever clitoris found in a woman was 12 inches long so I guess it might be possible?
I am fucking sick of them witch hunting us and doxxing us.
When will the tranny tyranny be over?
"Tranny tyranny" sounds weirdly good for a band though,ngl
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it's feels like such a losing battle when trans have all the programming skills that it takes to force their agenda. we already lost the internet, the largest battleground, and can't even host our own imageboard. where are TERFS who code?
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No where is safe
LMAO it's always the weebs ain't it.
This is so fucking true though. Tbh I admit that if I hadn’t found GC, I probably would’ve trooned out too.
Troon shit is so concentrated in fandoms it’s not surprising that people (especially young ones) fall right into it.
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If you are using makeup, you might wanna avoid buying Too Faced.
>Too Faced co-founder Jerrod Blandino has fired his sister, who goes by Dani California on Instagram, after transphobic comments she made in regards to popular makeup YouTuber NikkieTutorials coming out as trans.
I'm sure not everyone is following the migration thread so I'm dropping this here! A kind anon made a new website for us. Obviously dead right now so it needs people to post. >>2509
Thank God I've only ever bought their stuff on discount at Ross and shit. Makeup company drama is so dumb.
I fucking hate how "untouchable" trannies are.
They are pure babbies and real wymins uwu
I want all "transwomen" to neck themselves,thank god lots of them do kill themselves and that the number will keep growing
Just be proud. Fuck those abusive
mentally ill troons.
Maybe the male realizes he's getting older after surpassing a big milestone in life and decides becoming a tra is the only way to regain his youth or some shit? What with all these TIMs being wittle trans girls uwu
. Or after a birth, the attention is more on the baby than him and that infuriates him.
And after a marriage, you've made that contract which you'll try very hard to keep intact so if you have an AGP husband he'd wait until after marriage to troon out, with marriage guilting you into staying.
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Original Reddit post already got deleted, but here’s a link to the twitter I got the screenshot from: https://twitter.com/AITA_reddit/status/1218165330566156289?s=20
Gender reveal parties are already stupid as fuck, but they managed to make it even dumber.
Same lmao, when I hear people harp on like “you don’t know how deeply this affects trans people, you don’t know how this could destroy them emotionally” I literally think “fucking good I hope it does, they need to get over themselves. Sink or swim baby”.
I have no positive association with trans people anymore, as soon as any of the woke language is used i shut down and stop listening and can no longer take the person seriously. In my city I have to see graffiti like “terfs are scum” and “trans women are women” written boldly, tackily and in unavoidable places like train stations and the centre of town. At least 1 bestseller out at any time is about some tranny horseshit, it’s about how evil feminism is or their brave ~stwuggles uwu~ or I meet some girl I used to know in school and discuss feminism with, suggests I read whipping girl. In fact if anyone breathes a goddamn word about it to me irl I act like a normie who has never been on the internet, like I don’t know anything, even though I honestly know quite a bit because as a young insecure tumblrite I used to swallow all of this bullshit, I would reblog their retarded text posts about ~muh validation~ And spout this horseshit in real life. Once I became a fucking adult I decided to stop pandering to utter losers, thus completing my transition from libfem to closet terf.
I just saw them as “regular people with gender issues”
Funny thing is, I never thought of gays or lesbos as “regular people with sexuality issues”, I don’t see them as having issues at all apart from homophobia, they’re different genus from straight and idc. I always thought it was strange to require a totally cosmetically modified body in order to live. In the end the tiddy skiddle gofuckmes where the final nail in the coffin.
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PULLs back up and Nikkie's thread got bumped, mostly talking about evil TERFs and transes dying. Found this gem on the first page. They pinpointed it correctly.
Not personally but a friend of mine had this happen. She was that 'cool, manic pixie dream girl type' and was copied from head to toe. This went on for around 6 months till we went to a party and she was accused of copying in front of a big crowd by the troon. So she decided to briefly switch up styles to a really generic 'pumpkin spice latte white girl' and the troon lost all interest in her and moved onto the next manic pixie dream girl in the group.
I guess copycat syndrome is pretty accurate for troons. Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is the correct term and is characterized by a long-standing pattern of attention seeking behavior and extreme emotionality.
In a smaller way, yes. Had one use a very specific turn of phrase I'd talked with him about a couple of weeks prior and pretend he had come up with it when I've been saying it for years. He also does friend group power play shit like trying to claim credit as being the one to "discover" restaurants etc. that I've recommended.
Even that little amount of copycatting made my skin crawl, I can't imagine how gross it would be to deal with a full blown skinwalker.
This is the truth. Studies have shown that abusive
men often either begin or ramp up the abuse after marriage and/or childbirth. It is not a coincidence that so many men transition after these two things too.
Well it's the dead of winter so I can just hang around in leggings and sweaters for a bit and see if he fucks off. I hate men so fucking much why can't they just leave me alone?! >>2713
It's got me fucked up, anon. Like what about me is appealing to troons? I guess that I'm confidently my own person (and that person is an femme lesbian)? I'm basically scared of men and already didn't want to deal with this dude but he takes it to this creepy level anyway!
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Has this been posted yet…
In what world are those two things comparable??
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I feel like crying. This girl is only 15, a lesbian… a lost teen. And her father loves her so much he just wants to do his best, without realizing what is actually happening.
The trans cult needs to die. Girls deserve to love themselves instead of this.
The comments are disturbing to me, I had to scroll way too much to see people trying to plant the critical seed.. but to God I hope the father will see them.
I'm sorry if this post doesn't fit, but it made me just so fucking sad.
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I have no words
lol implying this tranny won't kill itself first or could ever do anything else than crying/whining on their twitter when called sir instead of ma'am.
It's funny of they're all "punch the nazis! punch the terfs! kill them!" but they have a "panic attack" getting out of their house or asking for more sauce at a restaurant
I wish people would stop repeating this lie that AGPs are at an enormous risk for suicide or murder. They’re not. They’re more likely to be perpetrators than victims
of violence and are a bigger danger to their environment than to themselves. Repeating the false 41% statistic doesn’t hurt their feelings, it helps to further their agenda. That’s why it was contrived in the first place.
The statistic comes from the fact that the study in question used self-reported data and
lumped together suicide attempts with suicidal thoughts, self harm, thoughts of self harm, etc. IIRC they also made no distinction between LGB and TQ. So basically, all it proved is that 41% of self-reported LGBTQ+ respondents claimed to have felt really down at some point in their life.
There’s another statistic about the average lifespan of transwomen being ~35 or so which was based on HSTS street prostitutes in South America (Brazil, IIRC) but of course white AGPs with cushy IT jobs appropriated that too, which is funny because many of them don’t even transition until middle age.
>>2834>average lifespan of retarded male larping as women is 35
god i wish it was true. If only they could off themselves sooner it'd be better for the rest of the world.
I'm tired of being silenced by autogynephiles anime fanboys. Here's the thing they fail to understand: in under no circumstance will you become an anime girl,or look "kawaii",you'll always look like a freak who only gets pity fucks from handmaidens
35 is the average lifespan for prostitutes in general, I read that somewhere. So that statistic doesn't prove anything.
I've noticed a lot of trans women have permanent gofundme/kofi/paypal.me links going so these stats are helpful in attaining donations.
They really are fucking scumbags, never ceases to amaze me. First they divert statistics to look like the worlds greatest victims
, then they manipulate people into giving them donations, which for sure all go to cosmetic surgeries, thigh highs and cat ears, instead of what a single mother or a woman on the breadline would spend it on; food, housing, nappies, toys for a woman’s children, medicine etc. But oh no, we don’t want to waste it on “CIS PRIVILEGE”
This is why I am proud to be a fucking terf.
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The 41% comes from>The National Transgender Discrimination Survey>conducted by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and the National Center for Transgender Equality.https://www.thetaskforce.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/ntds_full.pdf
Pic related are the relevant pages. These numbers are life attempts (i.e. childhood, pre-transition, and post-transition).
AFSP and Williams Institute report is much more detailed.https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf
But again, these are life attempts.
Here's a systematic review, which will probably be closest to truth.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28861548>Results: Across these 42 studies an average of 55% of respondents ideated about and 29% attempted suicide in their lifetimes. Within the past year, these averages were, respectively, 51% and 11%, or 14 and 22 times that of the general public.
So 29%, not 41% lifetime, and 11% "in the last year".
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No one here wants to say this because it ruins your delusions but i will say it.
The reason why women are oppressed is because of other women.
Women dont care what happens to other women unless it happens to them.
Women are extremely judgmental and nitpicky towards women's appearance.
Women bully women and socially exclude women who are socially awkward,socially anxious,mentally ill or weird.
Women are extremely competitive of each other and will always try to rival each other and even in the highest feminist environment there still will be competition.
The reason why sexist cultural practices and killings exist is because women allow them to exist. When ever you see a woman/girl suffering from some sexist practice there is always some woman who is happy for heir pain,thinks she deserves it and allows it.
lesbians too who try to imitate male sexist behavior by treating women good only if they find them attractive and bullying ugly women.
Feminine lesbians are also way more likely to get raped by a butch lesbian than they are by another feminine lesbian.
Women also are obsessed with cancelling women over every little mistake they do and ruining their life, but are okay with men who are pedophiles,murderers etc.
Women glamorizing serial killers and lolita culture.
and i could go on and on.(bait)
yes. we know. women can be bad. and>The reason why women are oppressed is because of other women.
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Men are trash but the fact that none of you want to hold women accountable or yourselves accountable for treating other women horribly just speaks cognitive dissonance.
How will misogyny stop if women also perpetuate it towards other women?
Yes, it's called internalized misogyny. They repeat men's opinions and act out men's wishes in order to gain favor from men.
These same (coward) women would be echoing the female leader's opinions with equal fervor if there was a matriarchy. You're proving the point that men are in control of not only themselves as a group, but a significant percentage of women.
If that anon can even comprehend that, they don't care. They just want to blame women. It's always easier to inhale the false empowerment of self-blame than name the real problem. It also gives them a nice superiority high to pontificate to other people in an oppressed group.
I swear that anon is thinking to themselves "I'm not like the rest of these bitches, I'm WOKE. It's like they don't even realize women can also be bad people! They won't even mention it! They are hypocrites!".
Like, this is how anyone acts when they want to have "subversive" opinions and viewpoints, but also don't want to take on the danger of actually contradicting the structure of society.
It's like if Shoe0nHead was a doomer.
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>>2731> Like what about me is appealing to troons?
It's probably two things:
1) AGPs style themselves after types of women they find attractive (think of all the "become the catgirl/goth GF/Stacey" sort of memes out there). There's a high chance this dude is into "femme" "lesbian" porn and trying to get that look.
2) There's a huge occurrence of personality disorders in the trans community. Cluster Bs tend to "mirror" others, whether to ingratiate themselves (seemingly to your friend rather than you) and/or to fill the gaping void of their self-image.
For the first you're out of luck, but for the second you could try something like the Grey Rock method. Similar to how the other anon's Manic Pixie friend acted boring for a while, you just have to make him think you're dull and that he won't get his emotional fix from you until he gives up.
With women who claim to be NB I just take them at their word. When they start talking about feminist issues I say I'm uncomfortable with people who aren't women acting like the authority on feminism. When they complain about misogyny I say "Huh? But you're not a woman?"
They hate it but I'm following the woke party line so there's nothing they can do without admitting NB is fake.
>>2906>Have any of them tried arguing anyway though? Something like BUT I was raised as a woman before I choose to be a nb, so I still count or similar?
They have ALL tried that. I say that sounds pretty terfy, and it sounds like they're saying that trans women aren't women because they weren't raised as women. And they can't argue with that without admitting that sex-based oppression is a thing.
Roughly half of them DO admit they think that sex-based oppression is a thing and that trans women have male socialization after that. And after that I say something like "If you said that to anyone else you'd probably be called a TERF!"
And they know I'm right. And you can see the gears start to turn in their head as they realize maybe this is all bullshit.
Im new here on this thread (and side of the board) so forgive me if I'm just saying dumb shit, but this has been getting on my nerves recently. Maybe it's because I just started paying attention to it, but how come so many transwomen and gay men (or cross-dressing fem presenting men, Like Jeffree & James) so into "straight" men and calling their partner "straight".
I just got into Blaire White and she has to be the biggest case of self-hate I've seen. To me no matter if you have tits or whatever, if you have a dick and you are with another man, you aren't straight.
I'll call people their pronouns or whatever, but at the end of the day it's Gay, bisexual, pansexual whatever, but it's not straight.
Maybe I'm wrong, and someone can explain it to me.
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>women's (and trans men's and AFAB non-binary folks)
No, just saying 'women' sufficed.
>proximity to a cis man's wealth
huh, funny how they don't mention trans women or AMAB non-binary folks here.
Thanks for the answer, I wish people would touch on this shit instead of brushing it under the rug. I got into an argument about how it's not "right" for me to say these people aren't the sexuality they say they are, when I feel they are pushing the "Straight spouse" thing because they have a penis and BECAUSE they have self-hate.
I don't consider myself a transphobe, I just get sick of a lot of the bullshit around a lot of the LGBTQ+ media, I feel like it's often the worst of the worst, these big circuses.
There's so many transwomen who i feel are just fetishes for their partners and to the world, & people pretend it's something it's not. Like Nikita, it's all about getting men, it's all about being seen attractive and passing. Nothing else.
I don't know, maybe I'm just venting a bunch of jabber, I feel bad even typing this because i feel so wrong for feeling it, but I'm sick of the way that the media pushes these people, all the representation is sexed up and meaningless.
I don't know if any of this makes sense.
and for some reason racist, I've met a lot of transwomen/gay men who are very misogynistic, homophobic and racist towards me. I try not to judge based on the few I know online or in real life but it's hard.
I feel like i'm coming out as a "transphobe" and I don't want to be, because I love and respect all people.
but I'm sick of the way transwomen and gay men act toward women and how it's handwaved away.
Like it's cool if we call it self hate or whatever, but it's not funny, it's not a joke, it's not something we should "Stan" it's just as harmful as when a straight man does it.
I don't find it funny for a man to call me "fish" because he likes dick or wears a dress, or call me "bitch" right away because his other friends do that.
I've battled on these thoughts a lot and I'm happy I came here. I see a different side to the issue that I was once one sided on.
I have seen people call out gay men for their misogyny in mainstream media though. With trannies it's a bit different because they are a highly protected class and apparently they can't be misogynistic because they are ~women~ too. I've been around a lot of trannies and the HSTS are annoying but the AGP are on a whole other level of awfulness. I think the big push for trans acceptance in MSM was spearheaded by AGPs since so many of them are well-off straight white men thus they already had the capital + privileges to shape society as they see fit.
I guess I am very different from you because I do't feel have any shame in being a "transphobe" since transphobia is not an institutional form of oppression and there is no such thing as 'cis privilege'.
>>2926>>2931>I don't consider myself a transphobe>I feel like i'm coming out as a "transphobe" and I don't want to be, because I love and respect all people.
You are not transphobic, just gender critical.
Calling out someone on their prejudice, misogyny, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc. doesn't make you a transphobe. Being gay, trans, person of color, woman, or any other minority or oppressed class doesn't make such behaviour okay.
Nowadays to be trans it's enough to just claim being one. Don't be surprised that most of them aren't, being men with fetishes or people with issues instead.
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Why are men like this? Why would you want to be harassed? Because it's gender affirming? They will really stop at nothing to be validated, it's sick. They have no idea what it feels like to actually be harassed/catcalled. They just take it as a joke because "UwU they called me girl!!"
Seeing shit like this it's like peaking into the mind of your average unhinged, mentally screwed troon.
They literally think witnessing how a significant portion of the other half of the population wishes death and torture upon you online because you exist lifts our spirits as long as we get acknowledged as a teehee girl uwu. That's how detached they are of reality and it's mindblowing. No wonder they can say and do all the stuff we see online, they need to be locked away.
what in the actual fuck even
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Low self-esteem and they usually perceive it as better than the physical violence and bullying they had to endure so far due to homophobia and sexism.
They are not completely happy with it, but they perceive it as a compliment at the same time.
It also applies to TIFs.
>>2960> In fact it feels almost exploitative that universities offer young people the chance to spend tens thousands on the ability to sit around and say your opinions. Going to class feels like an utter scam.
Shit no sherlock.
We still live under patriarchy. Of course regulated studies won't offer a decent analysis of women's issues. They are just something unis started offering since liberal feminism became trendy thanks to the 3rd wave because they saw an opportunity of exploiting a niche business. But don't even dream of them getting in deep analysis about the authors and voices of the 2nd wave and their philosophies and ideas, because none of them are politically correct to scrotes since they call out how fucked up the systems scrotes keep designing are and how every single fucking """liberation""" movement scrotes ever lead or start ended up in a complete hypocrital clusterfuck of a failure. (And scrote feefees can't handle being hold accountable for their fuck ups). Plus if they were serious about it, they'd have to talk about trans issues affect actual women and we all now that's a no-no.
I'm happy I found this thread yesterday, So much of this shit is hitting home and I feel bad, I feel like I've been conditioned SO much to just, "Let people live! it's not hurting you! Don't say anything! "
There have been so many cases where I wanted to go, "Huh, that seems wrong" Like with Jazz Jennings, but I've been afraid to say anything.
Even with the whole Nikkie thing, someone brought up her mother saying the "I knew you were a girl" & I said something like, "that seems kind of problematic" and I was called out so badly I deleted my twitter.
Then I notice so many trans people on youtube (mainly transwomen) have content that's either about surgeries and how fuckable men find them before they found out they are trans. Or transwomen discussing their spouse's sexuality, or showing them old kid or pictures of them when they were younger. Nikita's whole THING is being a transwoman who just wants to appeal to men.
What has always killed me is, that I'm not allowed to speak on trans issues even though they affect me, but we have transwomen who are allowed to speak on WOMEN issues. Transwomen like contra & Blaire who speak on shit that literally has nothing to do with them.
But if I say, "I don't agree with this or that" then I'm transphobic.
If I ask, why so many transwomen focus on looking like blow-up dolls and how much men want to fuck them, or how "passing" they are and nothing else, then I'm a bigot. If talk about how some of them (and gay men) Obess over rather their spouse is considered "straight" or not, then I'm wrong. It's all self-hate as you guys said.
If I say I feel it's wrong not to disclose you're sex to who you are fucking, I get people going, "It doesn't matter!!"
I feel like for so long I've been critical of a lot of this stuff & I feared that saying something would give me that label.
How come SO many people can speak on women's issues so freely but if I dare to speak on trans issues and how I feel then there are people who are going to label me?
Transwomen are WOMEN according to the loud majority right? So why can't I speak on them the same way they speak on me?
(sorry for the rant, I've been reading last thread & this one, I have a lot to get out)
Being harassed is just a new and exciting thrill for AGPs. They can feel safe, secure and even smug in the face of harassment and abuse because they’re so shielded by privilege that it doesn’t truly get to them. They can take off the womansuit and go back to being at the top of the totem pole as regular straight dudes whoever they feel like it. Hell most of them are treated as such even with the womansuit on because nobody really