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No. 657790
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22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread:
>>>/pt/654132The basics:
> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Several pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.Taylor's Links:
Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/taylorndean (currently deactivated as of 2/14/19)
Instagram:
http://www.instagram.com/taylorndean Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaOTXKuQ-t-eTikY96B9n-Q Facebook (private:)
https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean Jonny's Links:
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/jonnycraig4L Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/jonnycraig4lJen’s Links:
https://twitter.com/tamonandpumbaList of all Taylor's pets:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#New Milk:
> Colin from Slaves posted on here about his experiences with Jonny. His posts start at >>>/pt/637869> Cannot keep story straight on rehab, has stopped posting about it> Posted an Instagram story with needles visible in the background> Continues to make stories on Instagram where track marks can be seen on her arms > Several animals that have been MIA were posted on Instagram after being mentioned on here. This includes several snakes, Ella, Mushu, Star, and Kronos> Valentino (Sinaloan Milksnake) was allegedly returned to the breeder after regurgitating his food and developing a respiratory infection> TND and Jonny have moved into a curvy house with an atrium, which she claims she is intending to make into an enrichment space for the lizards> Atrium has been shown several times with absolutely filthy water which the animals have been swimming in> Have posted multiple photos/captions indicating that Star is extremely stressed in the new house, but both are too ignorant to the signs of stress in cats to recognize it> Released a video on April 13th (2 months after she said she would return to youtube), slurring words in some clips, and showed alcohol in the kitchen and bedroom of the new house> Cheese’s necropsy results were inconclusive (obviously)> Claims she is totally sober from drugs but alcohol doesn’t count and her rehab coaches are completely fine with her using alcohol > Bindi’s enclosure shown in the new house as only a bit of substrate and a couple of simple hides, no enrichment. She has said that Bindi doesn’t need enrichment because “she doesn’t do anything anyway”
> Recent Known additions to the horde of animals: Tarantula, frog> Recent Known Deaths: Moon crab (Ursula), > Recent Known “Rehomed”: Satanic Leaf geckos, all fishtanks not including the 150 gal, other moon crab (Triton)Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation:
https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9wOld Milk:
> Claims to be attending an outpatient rehab program, where they receive Vitriol injections> Jonny was kicked from the Slaves for incessant drug use http://archive.is/JO9vO> Taylor admitted to using heroin, this was corroborated by texts from Jonny http://archive.is/4GnJG http://archive.is/6sYGI> Accused former friend Breezexotics of sexual harassment http://archive.is/HiCCr> Has deleted Twitter once again> Friends have gone on damage control, trying to save their own reputations> Snakes are morbidly obese> Versatile Reptiles, Breezexotics, and whatever (video anon) are verified with Tripcodes> Still never made an apology video for slandering South Texas Dragons> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing stated that she will be updating mushu’s condition in a video, we will see if that happens> Attempted to purchase two new crocodile skinks on the down low before a smaller pettuber ratted on the cover-up of the deaths introduced the new skinks> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes more empty and scummy water dishes shown in the new house as well> Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese and her herion useUnconfirmed Milk:
> Electrical malfunction story was fabricated. Croc Skinks died of dehydration due to her not giving them enough water during a heatwave. Pacman frog died of malnutrition due to only being fed mice. > Gucci escaped from their enclosure and was missing for 2 months. Taylor bought Parada as a replacement. Gucci was found in Gus’ enclosure after eating him. Taylor claimed Gus died of old age. > Had a mite infestation, Bindi (Blue Tongue Skink) had been shown infested with mites> Mantis Shrimp died after only a few days instead of a few months as claimed> Leopard Gecko is kept in a dark tub > Valentino was not returned to the breeder and is dead> Her and Jonny were evictedAll Previous Threads:
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taylors instagram story, i first thought it was from jonnys cause… why is she opening up about her feelings in this random story about her fat cat? lmao
No. 658005
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Wtf is all over the mirror…dude just doesn’t give a shit!
No. 658007
>>658005sorry, but what does 'swipe up' do?
im really not into my phone so…
No. 658009
>>658007If you swipe up on Instagram stories to opens whatever link they add to the story. in this case he linked his twitch stream.
Also, in the following story (were he is on stream) his pupils are pinned out. it's hard to get a screenshot because he's moving his phone all over but he's in a dark room with a light behind him and yet his pupils are tiny. no wonder he's shit at vidya, he's high while playing
No. 658053
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>>658009Not to WK, his pupils aren't pinned, we've seen them MUCH smaller in less light before
No. 658059
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More people appear to be waking up…
No. 658076
>>658059As other anons have said before, she didn't share it, she was exposed. She only came out and admitted to it when she was caught red-handed. She had every intention of sweeping it under the rug and denying she ever had a problem.
The fact that she talks about inevitable relapse and weeping off it using other drugs shows she's not serious about staying sober. Waking up a 3 in the afternoon and saying you still have time to take care of your 50+ animals is naive and stupid. They're suffering under her care due to improper care, negligence and laziness.
The fact that she spends her free time shopping for new animals, surfing Instagram and twitter shows she could care less about the animals under her care. She's in way over her head and tries to frame it like she's the
victim, is such an immature attitude that isn't suited to taking care of living beings. With the amount of resources she has at her disposal she could make truly exceptional enclosures but she spends it on more crap that will just sit in her closet or on the floor of the bathroom.
She's selfish, manipulative, a liar, a narcissist, lazy, naive, dirty, unhygienic, drug-addicted asshole.
No. 658077
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she doesn't even go anywhere…
how are the rats, taylor?
No. 658081
>>658077Seems to me that Jonny is changing her for the worst.
>>658076Let's just hope they don't get married and have kids or be extremely stupid and have kids because "We LoVE EaCh OtHeR So MuCH and ThiS iS WhAt HaPPeNs WhEn You LoVe SoMeOnE" then again I can see Jonny bailing again
No. 658084
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They are running errands.
No. 658088
>>658084"errands" aka cider runs, shit food, drugs
shit you'd think they'd at least keep it alittle tidy.
Nice ass grab, gotta let those internet trolls know who she belongs to. seems like a great role model…
No. 658098
>>658084This pic is giving me such anxiety. They look like trailer trash, and I come from a family of trailer trash. The rooms in the pic look so cluttered.
THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS OR 9-5P JOBS, CLEAN YOUR SHIT UP! I wish she'd understand this is such a poor reflection on her animal care capabilities.
No. 658099
>>658084Trailer queen, maybe.
He shit talks about not dating the maid, but at least the maid is cleaning and keeping herself looking professional. Taylor straight up looks like she's homeless here.
No. 658122
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Still no word on the rat cage, but check out this fuck-ton of makeup!
No. 658133
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>>657505Taylor is allowed to "Reshare" instead of retweeting a fan, but
no one can steal from her!!!
No. 658144
>>658139The irony is Kylie was used as a marketing prop for other people to get rich off of. Her whole brand is a marketing scam designed to capitalize on people's insecurity. Most models, herself included don't use her brand.
No1 curs what make up your using if your face and lips are bloated. Makeup alone won't make you attractive. She's a total butterface at this point.
No. 658161
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How many animals does she have to kill to get her fans to stop disregarding her neglect as "little mistakes"?
No. 658162
>>658122That's easily a couple hundred $ worth of make up. Probably paid mall prices too, good lord she can't manage money.
5k new monitor cage, 5k new gaming pc, 5k a month rent, 1.5k desk, 1k PER WEEK maid, but 20k inpatient is too expensive. Rats can go fuck themselves too, cage is too expensive. LOL.
No. 658169
>>658161Most of them are just naive kids who probably don't know any better. Some of them are probably willingly ignorant though, it's really sad even at their "best angles" they look truly terrible. Anyone who's been around drug addicts or been around
toxic people know this isn't going to end well.
She's in her own little world right now. There's no point in trying to talk her out of it. The only thing that might cause her to change is a traumatic event.
She seriously thinks that she's going to be able to have thanksgiving with Jonny and her family and have the perfect Disney relationship. Jonny obviously couldn't give 2 shits about her expect for easy sex and money. He's already proven a terrible father, not really sure what she wants to accomplish at this point.
No. 658191
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which illness is that, Taylor?
No. 658192
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>>658191Taylor, you have ONE job…
No. 658196
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Jonny also said "you don't need drugs and alcohol to have a good time" then posted this shot of Taylor "sleeping" with a beer bottle on his side of the bed. tay posted 30 minutes later a story of how scary the windows are when there's lightning
No. 658207
>>658169her own little world that consists of junk food, that's obviously not gluten-free, that goes straight to her face and hair. They're looking more and more like the stereotypical trailer trash you see in movies.
>>658162Geez. if she had a drug-jonny-free brain, she could've used that money for college and I'm betting she would look younger, happier, and glowing but I guess that "rock star experience" is better.
No. 658271
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idk what the context is but he posted this to discord
No. 658274
>>658271>>658272They were probably delinquent on their rent. 1st of the month probably showed up, they were still asleep at 3pm and landlord probably lost their shit.
If Taylor's mom is involved they're probably using her credit to rent. She probably Co-signed with them for their house because they're credit is non existent or too fresh.
Now they're probably scrambling to pay the rent and the management company is having trouble with the bank. Landlord is an idiot for renting to these buffoons.
They like to pretend they're independent but mommy has to send the reminders to pay up.
No. 658275
>>658271Not really a good idea to be mouthy to your landlord either.
>It be like that sometimes!No, just no. You pay your fucking rent the first of the month. It isn't hard.
No. 658294
>>658271lmao I
knew they weren't going to get along with the community & it's higher-ups.
No. 658331
>>658311I wanna know how her mom is involved in this. Does she really believe her daughter is off heroin? Is she just playing along with Jonny to keep Taylor in her life? Why is she responsible for the invoices? Does she not see where Taylor's life is heading? So many questions.
>>658329 Something's really funky with their money situation. No way they should be having trouble paying rent. All these purchases and stuff send out a bunch of red flags. still nothing for the animals.
No. 658384
>>658331Well I mean clothes/shoes/gaming computer you can put on a credit card. I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor has a lot of CC debt since she doesn't seem to know anything about budgeting.
Rent has to come from your bank account directly usually.
Although it still doesn't explain the whole Mama Dean involvement. And she is definitely an enabler. Taylor has surrounded herself with enablers. Tyler still acts like nothing ever happened and everything is totally fine.
No. 658484
>>658384>>658456What repair? there's no evidence of Jen ever paying for a repair. We don't know if Taylor got the A/C fixed and why would it go to mama dean? That doesn't make alot of sense.
More likely they just forgot to pay rent, and Jen has co-signed or is involved somehow. The Landlord isn't asking for an invoice, jonny is using it as an excuse.
>>658458 Seems unlikely.
No. 658485
>>658271LMAO did he put his landlord in as
Prema Donna
No. 658501
>>658271The landlord is an idiot for renting that house to those two.. then again.. they're probably desperate since no one wants that ugly house.
Seems like "forgetting the account number" is their excuse for not paying on time. These two LOVE excuses and use them on everything that isn't ugly shoes
No. 658548
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No. 658586
>>658547>>658583She has had a video break over 1mil views in over a year. For someone with 1.6mil subscribers that's not good. Her most recent videos will probably cap 400k range at best. Not bad but not great. Its also misleading because she only uploads once a week (sometimes) and people will watch it if that's all they got.
She's coasting off her old videos when she pulled in million+ views. Her video views have consistently come down since jonny entered the fold. People are getting bored with the Pettube FAD. Other pettubers are even worse, they best stick to their day jobs.
Projections arn't good for TND. She'll probably always have a group of devoted stans but she already peaked a year ago. Subscribers don't really mean much it's more about the number of views. That and the videos about her heroin addiction will turn alot of would be subs away.
No. 658597
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Because Jonny totally respects women. He’s totally not a rapist. Nope. He totally didn’t post your nudes and tell everyone to check out your “amazing body” or anything. Oh that’s right. You supposedly told him to do it.
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No. 658599
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>>658597>>658598Breaking up with that garbage pile of a human would also help young girls "so they never have to feel they way we did"
No. 658601
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>>658597>>658598Oh, there it is, the
real reason she tweeted this; Attention.
No. 658610
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Any clues who this might be? This person just randomly popped up defending Taylor on the now deleted tweets.
No. 658611
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No. 658613
>>658610>>658611No idea but I don't doubt what they are saying if they actually talk to her. Jonny did similar shit to his exes. Taylor's family is absolute trash for enabling this if so.
I don't blame her for not leaving if she is physically in danger. But I do blame her for getting involved in the first place where I wouldn't normally blame other abuse
victims. She was warned and had so much help to leave in the beginning and she fucked over everyone trying to help her.
I don't think he's threatening to harm her animals to keep her, she obviously doesn't give a shit about them and that wouldn't be enough to keep her to leave. I would totally believe him just threatening to reveal her shit care and animal replacement though, she cares more about her fame and money than anything else.
No. 658615
>>658614My first thought. Setting herself up as the soo brave
victim uwu yet again. It reads inauthentic
No. 658633
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>>658271I wonder if this is what the invoice is for.
No. 658642
>>658633
>“A great way to insure your career will take a nosedive is to buy a house.”Why did she bother with that POS house. The atrium is only good for 1-2 videos. She can't even make it a garden or anything because ITS NOT HER HOUSE. 4k on rent is insane thats 48K a year. That's not including heating/cooling, lawncare, internet ect.
She's seriously a 22y/o child, surrounded by toys and candy. Sleep all day and play all night. She's not interested in bettering herself at all.
No. 658671
>>658598>>658669She WAS the drama so they kicked her out. Every girl I've met that ONLY keeps guy friends around has issues. Self-esteem or otherwise.
>>658597>>658598She fuckin contradicts herself in the second post. Guy just sexualize girls! I only have guy friends! Then she dates a guy who litteraly grabs her ass in photos and post nudes of her online.
Don't expect teenage guys to be your friend, they were only "friends" with you because you were hot (at one point) and wanted to date you or get in your pants. If you were fat and ugly they would've left you alone.
No. 658674
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Here are a couple shots of the cage with bonus cat wandering around (she mentions in the video that the cats are never in here when she isn't and that the room is her office and the doors are closed when she's not in there)
No. 658675
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>>658674A look inside. I don't know a lot about rat care but is it okay for the ramps not to be covered? The fabric looks thick enough to prevent foot issues but the bare wire on all the ramps worries me.
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>>658675And the cat wandering around. Later she's right against the cage but again I don't know much about rats to know if that's stressful for them.
No. 658682
>>658674I can smell the piss from here, I bet that fabric is already filthy. Seems very small, all that waste in such a small area, especially since it's 3 of them.
It's obvious she doesn't take the time to look after them and doesn't want to deal with the hassle of a new cage.
No. 658684
>>658674I bet this was the stuff that
just got shipped yesterday, and she FINALLY put it in the cage and is trying to make it look like the shit has been in there for a while now.
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I HaVE a LoT oF Bills.
No. 658701
>>658597insert flashback to jonny posting taylors nudes again
>>658610whatshisname, elijah? she probably confided in him quite a bit when she told him she'd go to LA, and he was anti jonny
No. 658710
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>>658676She obviously just set it up. The tube next to the cage is a Guinea Dad package, a company that makes fleece liners and bedding. I can't belive it took her this long.
See attached.
No. 658716
>>658708With the whole fleece thing she could have it if she treated the fleece before and had an actual under layer to catch all the urine.
To me the biggest mistake with the entire cage is the fact that everything is wire (which can obviously be fine for the sides)because it's so hard to work around in terms of substrate which at the moment seems to be the biggest issue.
No. 658724
>>658708uk rat care is notoriously shitty—you also love to breed diseased, aggressive wildlings to domestics to “keep the gene pool fresh”
taylor’s cage is a stinky piss soaked mess and i second needing to get a cement bin and fill it with shavings. that said vertical cages for norway rats are a dumbass idea. black rats or “roof rats” are climbers. norway rats live underground and climb very well but living in a vertical cage with no shelves and a 5 foot drop is asking for a dead rat if it so much as makes a faulty step, wrestles with another rat or has a stroke.
No. 658726
>>658724 And US rat care is notorious for having poorly bred feeder rats, and overweight and under stimulated rats living on fleece with nothing to do.
A properly set out cage will things to break the rats fall won’t result in injury but regardless, Taylor’s cage is dismal.
No. 658764
>>658747This. Former rat owner. I've seen far better and more enriching rat enclosures from basic rat owners on Tumblr. Taylor's is just adequate in the lowest tier. As someone who is a pet youtuber, she should strive to inspire people to want to do the best for their pets. However, she's mediocre. She's not going to stay on top of cleaning the piss fabrics. She's going to throw stuff away and then they'll have to wait for new stuff. It'll be a money pit. She should rehome any pet she isn't willing to do better than basic with. Save herself money and focus on above average enclosures.
Jenna Marbles feels like a more educational pet youtuber with her recent videos about their new greyhound, and how they're addressing behavioral issues. At least Jenna is using her money to learn from professionals and implement the knowledge.
No. 658767
>>658752If the house wasn't in desperate need of tenants, I'd agree 6 months. I've got a hunch the owner is desperate to get it generating revenue, though.
I can't remember if her lease is monthly or a year? If it's a year, I'm sure the owner won't renew the lease if they keep this up. It's too much of a financial hassle to evict unless they're straight up not paying and go months behind.
No. 658782
>>658781Not just rent but basically ALL her bills because, from what we all said on this site, she probably has a ton which she confirmed by her tweet.
She’s basically a single mother that spends way too much money on useless things with alot of pets with the added bonus of having no job, crappy videos, and excuses for not uploading frequently. She’ll be back at her moms when she’s Jonnys age.
No. 658804
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Looks like Taylor is getting a dog.
No. 658808
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I think the longer message is just copy pasted from what anon posted above
No. 658811
>>658809Um. That is clearly an example of the beloved 'American Shelter Dog, medium size' hdu, hdu anon.
Taylor will be a terrible dog owner. You cannot ignore a dog the way she does all her other pets. 'Friendly and curious' is going to turn into 'aggressive and neurotic due to neglect' fast.
No. 658813
>>658804>>658808I don't think she's going to keep it.
Dogs are too demanding for her & often are a testament to how good or bad of an owner you are.
No. 658819
>>658804Ugh I hope she doesn't keep this dog. She can't handle rats and her monitor, how would she deal with a dog on top of everything else?
She is at least pretending that she knows this.
No. 658830
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The dog is not even spayed apparently. I don’t understand how thought processes. Why not get the dog spayed now instead of waiting for someone to be interested. That needs to be the first thing she does.
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everything she wants in a dog, how convenient
No. 658849
>>658848Kids stayed with her parents when she moved into the apartment.
Taylor claimed it was because she was so bonded to the family and the other dog, Kiara, that she just couldn't take her!!!1!!1
It's more likely that the apartment wouldn't allow the dog (maybe a size restriction?) or Taylor wasn't interested in caring for Kida any longer and so left her with her parents.
No. 658850
>>658826It does have all the hallmarks of a TND lie. Who moves into a college dorm suddenly, in May? If there were no no-kill shelters near this person, why couldn't they transport the dog to one? There are no-kills and a decent humane society in San Antonio, and obviously someone got the dog there to Taylor's high-kill household.
>>658830she's probably just hoping someone else will go through the effort of getting her spayed/dealing with spay recovery and all, so Taylor doesn't have to be bothered to. Or it's just a lie to make her look good and she has no intention of getting the dog spayed.
>>658848That's Kida, the dog she just left with her parents because she couldn't/didn't want to move her to her apartment with Jonny. Apparently Kida "bonded so much more with her brother" so Taylor gave her to him as a service dog, but there's no indication that that's true or that Tanner ever wanted her or is using her as a service dog.
What are the odds this dog is another craigslist pet she bought herself and this entire story is just made up?
No. 658855
>>658804yet again taylor lives in this fantasy where she's some sort of goddamn savior
>>658842well of course they do, just look at the australia feral cat situation; billions of wild birds that hold up our environment that are killed by cats every year < 2 million cats destroying our environment. speaking of which, i'm extremely interested in what taylor's opinion on australias decision to cull the ferals.
No. 658871
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>>658674Here's a good example on how to utilize a cage like this. Levels and hammocks to break up all the air space. Extremely important for rats if they happen to fall.
The cage size is fine. It just seems… lazy on Taylor's part to not get them a DCN. I've had this style of cage before too, but a DCN is going to last longer and is just much easier to get into and clean. Plus you can take it apart easily for a full scrub down. Cages like this rust so quickly because they weren't designed for rats and their urine is super corrosive. Honestly Taylor just made a dumb decision in getting this cage. DCN is superior in every way.
My main concern is that there is a lot of fleece. The fleece liners should be changed every 2-3 days and hammocks might last a week if your rats aren't messy, but basically that's a lot of laundry that needs to be done and… I don't even think Taylor does her own laundry. Personally I would've gone for a DCN and gotten custom pans for the trays so I could fill it with substrate. Rats love to dig and burrow just as much as they love to climb. This just screams that Taylor really has no idea what she's doing and hasn't done her research. She isn't passionate about creating a great cage for her rats and wants to do the bare minimum. If it weren't for people calling her out, they'd still be in that other cage.
No. 658876
>>658849IIRC the apartment complex was pet friendly for both cats and dogs, so it's more likely that she left her dog behind because she knows that a dog requires a lot of attention and exercise.
She can get away with the animals she has now because they're in cages, and cats are relatively independent. A dog is an entirely different level and if she keeps it, her shit pet care will be more obvious.
This dog looks young and based on her description, is still on training basics, so it's going to require a lot of attention and training which neither she nor Jonny can provide. If she decides to keep it for some godforsaken reason, Betsy will be the one walking and training it no doubt.
No. 658879
>>658830It's a pit, Tay, Jonny is not going to be able to flex over some faggy dog like a lab, he needs that manly pit power to give him some clout.
Second, ALL DOGS SHOULD BE FIXED. Period. No reason to wait. Get it fixed or give it to someone responsible, you dingbat.
No. 658885
>>658822Pits and mixes are the most killed in shelters. She need's to take care of herself even if it means the dog might die in a shelter. Abuse and rescue dogs sometimes come with alot of issues and sometimes it's easier on everyone if they're put to sleep. It's not the dog's fault but if you've ever worked in a shelter that's the reality unfortunately.
Pits also have the worst adoption record due to their reputation, undeserved or otherwise.
No. 658891
>>658888Seconding this. I absolutely would not trust Johnny with a dog and I barely trust him with the cats given that I'm pretty sure we've seen questionable handling of them from him before.
I mean what are they going to do, shut it up in the atrium to use the bathroom/exercise? Neither of them would walk the dog and it'd be hell trying to keep it away from the cats and other animals.
No. 658913
>>658909It sounds kinda weird but, if you compare their nipples, it's not the same dog.
The dog with taylor has nipples that are from a dog that's nursed a litter, the one in the craigslist post has regular nipples.
No. 658914
>>658909Yeah not the same dog.
Don't wanna start the whole pitbull argument but they're just aggressive/territorial dogs. 3 years? You don't know what kinda of shit that dog went through before her, it will fuck up her cats if she's not careful.
Seriously beaten by a group of men? How did the original owner's get her then? School is ending next week, why would this be a dorm issue? where is all their vet shit? If they were taking care of her for a while they would've taken her in. Still not spayed too, very suspicious. Looks like a dog that just had puppies, taken in off the street.
Her insta story with her cat is awful. YOU NEVER introduce a large animal like that. Cat is super defensive and scared, the hunching is a dead give away. Dog def has some trauma signs based on her story too, very submissive posturing.
Can't wait till johnny shoes get torn to shreds. It's inevitable with untrained younger dogs.
No. 658918
>>658908>This was a shelter dog who's getting rehomed for aggression.Baseless assumption. There is more than enough drama coming from these two people, you really don't have to artificially dramatize it, which is what you're doing.
The dog actually seems really sweet and tame from those photos and the video
https://twitter.com/taylorndean/status/1125509709904195584>>658842>If she does keep the dog, there's gonna be more outrage when she inevitably neglects it. People tend get more up in arms about cute furry animals than reptiles.Can confirm, am one of those many people. First time posting in any of Taylor's threads. Suddenly, I'm invested.
No. 658924
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I have to say, good on Taylor for actually standing her ground & not caving-in to pressure from her fans & Jonny
No. 658925
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Did anyone notice these marks on her arm?
No. 658929
>>658880Not my cage, but someone I know. The shelves are wire with corflute (corrugated plastic) on top that are covered in fleece. Super easy to use because you can cut it to size. This is why I really do not get Taylor's excuses for why her rats are walking on bare bars. Corflute is cheap, you can cut it to size and then if you want, can cover it with fleece. Just having the corflute is super easy because they can be wiped down daily and saves a lot of laundry.
Taylor doesn't even try and that's what makes me so disappointed in that she has rats. They are amazing critters and I love doing everything I can to make them happy and give them an enriching cage. I have a quad DCN in a country where they don't even sell them. Taylor has some shitty, offbrand bird cage while making thousands a month. It just shows she really doesn't give a shit about her rats.
>>658925Doesn't look like self-harm, sorta looks like she's been resting her write on something and it's marked her. If it is self-harm… yikes. That's a cry for attention.
No. 658930
>>658904>>658906>>658908weird autistic nitpicks going on here, not only can we not ever confirm until this ""friend"" comes forward or taylor does something to release the info, this bit of blab on her IG post means essentially nothing beyond someone gave her a dog and now she has one for random reasons
additionally what a weird lack of research, have you all never attended college? or bothered looking up what the fuck you are talking about?
there are dorm times for may-july and then another dormming time for the year (2019-2020) so people can move in now or are going to move in now
No. 658948
>>658888Even if he isn't violent towards the dog, he seems like the kind of asshole who'd encourage aggressive or violent behavior from the dog because it's fun or makes the dog seem 'badass'. At best neither he nor Taylor are remotely prepared to provide the extensive training and safeguards necessary to keep an animal that is genetically predisposed towards aggressive and destructive behavior.
>>658914>Can't wait till johnny shoes get torn to shreds. It's inevitable with untrained younger dogs.Hopefully it only tears him to shreds and not the cats…
>>658947>The photo seems to be deleted from that post.That sounds pretty suspect.
No. 658949
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pic related, uni housing portal promotes literal may time dorming
>>658944>>658946the point is that there is move-in times in may for colleges despite your weird need to say its super unusual, if it was it wouldnt be so freely offered
it depends on college and location obviously, but it wasnt disclosed and she can lie about whatever college her "friend" who gave her the dog goes to. the only explanation i can imagine working is her friend is going to a college out of state and thats why they are just giving the dog away, but obviously no one just "gives away" a dog
i agree its sketchy enough to be questioned but its not going to go anywhere, it dead ends at "wow may time dorming and giving a dog away like that is pretty weird!" i dont get why you want to uselessly argue over fucking housing instead of pointing something more interesting out, like
>>658932 or
>>658908 No. 658954
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So, you took a dog you knew nothing about and didn’t want to ask about it because reasons, lol rightyo
No. 659014
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their perfect 4K a month house
No. 659037
>>658925another cutter chiming in to say this doesnt look like cuts and if this is self harm then its just surface scratches. fresh cutting scars are more raised and… discolored? than that. theyre not just brown lines.
also just gonna remind everyone that taylor loves the attention she gets from having people speculate over her self harm, like when she posted a video with cat scratches and didnt answer any of the comments asking if shes ok etc even though she obviously saw them. if this is self harm after all then that sucks for her and even if she does it for attention she needs some serious help, but thats nothing new lol
No. 659039
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Can we talk about how disgusting her house is though? This dog is going to end up getting into something it shouldn’t and eating the trash they leave lying around. If I knew a dog was coming to stay I’d at least pick bits of plastic up off the floor jeez.
No. 659082
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Her mom said dont put me in shit(emoji)
No. 659090
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>>659082She's going kind of psycho on Twitter in general.
No. 659093
>>659083Most people lie about why they get rid of pets. They'll say something just to get rid of them. I'm moving, can't care for her anymore, I'm allergic now, my place won't let them stay, ect. Often the REAL reason is the pet didn't meet their expectations in someway, too much energy, too needy, destructive, smells.
People might've told Taylor a made up story. Often times there's another reason people get rid of animals.
No. 659133
>>658936Which is sad because that's the sort of reputation with self-harm is often focused on attention whoring.
She seems to be setting up the story for a break-up with Jonny now which can't go well if people start speculating on Twitter/YouTube.
Why did Taylor get given the dog tho? If it was a friend, she should have already known more about the dog really. The entire thing is stupidly shady even if we keep going 'well, it's unlikely she got the dog elsewhere'
She basically did the same fucking thing with Star and some fish (? may have been something else), I won't be surprised if she keeps the dog. Half of her fanbase is 12/13 or adults with their own pets probably so it seems unlikely someone will take the dog. Much easier to take them to a no-kill shelter (if it's already adopted I'm sure the old shelter would be happy to take them back? Assuming it's a no-kill shelter that is), yet she's parading around going 'POOR DOG I'LL PAY'
Also, idk if US shelters do this but UK shelters normally spay/neuter the animals in their care.
It doesn't seem like it's specified that the dog has previously been in a shelter but seeing as it is a Hurricane survivor I'm very much assuming so because normally there will be plenty of animal shelters collecting around because people are fucking dumb.
No. 659152
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No. 659163
>>658804Her best friend's friend = Betsy's friend
Is it just me, or does Betsy seem to enable Taylor when it comes to buying/taking in & keeping more pets?
According to Taylor, Betsy wanted her to buy & foster a monitor lizard for her, & on her Google sponsored video, Taylor said that Betsy 'convinced' her to keep Goose.
No. 659183
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This girl on Twitter asked Taylor of all people for advice on taming her Savannah monitor. Taylor said she would either make a video or reply with tips. She then proceeded to tell the girl she has an easier monitor to tame. Two of Taylor’s petfest cronies actually contradicted her!
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No. 659185
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No. 659186
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No. 659187
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I’m living for this last girl outright telling the girl to watch another channel instead of Taylor and that salty Taylor at the end.
Sorry for spam. Just this thread made me so happy. Hopefully those two will contradict Taylor’s bad advice more in the future.
No. 659194
>>659187>>659186>>659185>>659184>>659183This is good.
No more "Queen of Pettube"-pass for her.
It's nice to see the other Pettubers stepping in & preventing misinformation from spreading further & causing more harm to animals.
No. 659209
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One thing I don’t understand is why she won’t get the dog spayed herself as opposed to offering money for whoever adopts the dog to get the dog spayed. It makes no sense. Does she not want to care for the dog after surgery? It’s irresponsible to not get the dog spayed at this point. What if the dog accidentally ran out and got pregnant again? Does she not think of these things?
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No. 659249
>>6592255so it’s confirmed she wouldn’t want to care for a dog after surgery… why would she even agree to foster this dog if she can’t even ensure that the dogs needs were being met? It’s irresponsible to not spay that dog considering it recently had a litter. There are so many dangers to not spaying a dog. A real foster would be able to take care of the dogs medical needs, not whatever the fuck she is doing.
>>659234Rough neck monitor =\= rough throat monitor… a rough throat monitor (like she so eloquently tweeted about) does not exist.
No. 659272
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The top part blurred by her username says "The internet can be"
No. 659287
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>>659158>>659145not the same anon but the conversation unfolds from here
>>632782 and here's the pic in question
there's definitely one cat scratch but it's up for debate what the rest are - could go either way.
No. 659290
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…The fuck?
No. 659292
>>659287Thank you for pulling that up for me!
That is exactly what I was referencing.
No. 659299
>>659296Former self harmer. It’s easy to blame the cat. I’ve self harmed, and had cuts that look very similar to this.
They are too intention, lines spread apart, but still going the same direction.
No. 659310
>>658485>>658502Pretty sure it's a misspelling of Prima Donna, the landlord is a dude (and angry most of the time, if we look at some of the cowtippers in previous posts).
Why are they trying to play with fire? This gated community will have clauses and other fun little contract games that allow them to nuke people from orbit for things like not making rent payments. They need to smarten the fuck up unless they want to be homeless soon.
>>659183Snake Discovery just posted a video with a breeder from Zilla, he outright says that Savannah monitors are pretty aggressive when compared to other monitors' temperaments.
No. 659312
>>659287I remember this picture. The fresh cut is definitely a scratch, but I hadn't noticed the others.
I'm leaning toward self-harm. The cuts are too straight and clean for them to be scratches, especially in this picture
>>658925 No. 659313
>>659307>>659312There is another one (I believe) that I can try and pull up.
I genuinely believe she is silently screaming for help. Maybe it’s all coincidence, but I do think a part of her (whether subconsciously or not) showed the track marks on purpose. It happened far too many times. I know it’s hard to not show your hands, but I think it’s a little more calculated.
Now with the seemingly newish self harm that’s popped up, the failed attempt at escaping to LA with Elijah who was vocal on his distaste for Johnny (which was idiotic IMO)
and this mysterious account that’s popped up, the mention of hiding in the bathroom to avoid Johnny, and contextualizing every thing we know about his past behavior with ex girlfriends..
I do believe Taylor is in the line of fire.
Did she discredit the
victims of Johnny? Yes.
Does she continue to publicly kiss his ass? Also yes.
So I don’t see her as a
victim necessarily. She willingly put herself in that position. But I really think she’s probably hating herself for it all.
She has responsibility to take for her actions. She’s paying the price for it now, and will continue to do so for as long as she is with that piece of junk. She really could clean up her act, downsize on pets, downsize on the boyfriend, and focus her energy on accurate education for pets, and for her platform.
She still holds some potential. But every single day that ticks by, she loses just a little bit more.
I don’t know if she’ll ever get the balls to leave him. But I do think she’s crying for help.
No. 659319
>>659313Who is this Elijah guy and what’s the story on her trying to escape to LA with him? I may have skipped some comments but I’ve tried going as far back as thread 1 and don’t remember reading that name. Could ya fill me in?
As for the cuts on her hand, I also have to agree and say those are cut marks because they are too perfect going the same direction. She could be showing them on purpose to later leave him. That twitter account is also suspect, but again, all playing in her favor for her to ultimately leave him. Let’s hope so.
No. 659322
>>659319The general scoop is that Elijah wanted Taylor to temporarily move to L.A. and live in his house so he could help her get sober because apparently he had done it before with someone else despite not being remotely qualified to do so but whatever.
He made a series of posts on Twitter not only talking about this, but also voiced dislike for Jonny. And then he just stopped talking about any of this altogether, I’m guessing because Jonny gave Taylor shit or something.
No. 659340
>>659319Just a few threads back when Jonny got fired / Taylor started taking selfies at the clinic. Here's a selection:
>>635072>>635093>>635156>>635391>>635625>>635634I brought him up in this thread, wondering if he was ipsofactoid. But probably not.
No. 659351
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No. 659361
>>659351Taylor acting as if she saved this dog herself from the hurricane and the men abusing her lmao
Girl has legit known this dog for a hot minute and thinks she's the shit because she found it a forever home uwu
No. 659369
>>658804>>658924Then why couldn't the owners just put her into a rescue? Why did it
have to go to Taylor? All these animals just
magically end up in Taylor's care all the time…
How is it a good idea to bring an unfamiliar dog into a house full of animals? If she's not even spayed I doubt she is even trained.
>>658954Whoever this "friend" is, they're obviously shitty and just wanted to get rid of the dog.
Not necessarily Taylor's fault but I wouldn't be surprised if she sprinkled in some extra lies because she's Taylor.
No. 659385
>>659302DOODS.
You guys realize she handles that monitor with monster sized claws? That my guess as to where the scratches came from.
No. 659386
>>659385Because her monitor only manages to scratch one part of her entire arm, makes perfect sense. Not to mention there's no doubt she barely handles him.
Honestly she probably wants us to feel sympathy or is using it as this cry for help so she can capitalise on how bad she feels and how her boyfriend is such a dick.
No. 659387
>>659386you doods always take everything so DEEP. lol
Shes been handling that monitor and letting him crawl all over her a lot.
No. 659394
>>659380Yeah might be a marketing image thing. Heroin addict looks bad, this is her trying to change her image back to animal lover. Smart enough to fool the stans, but it won't fool those who see through her bullshite.
Her track record is so bad and this just an attempt to win back favor with her stans. Everybody loves dogs so it makes a ton of sense from an image perspective to "rescue" them. Especially since they were a "Harvey/abuse" dog, she's doing it for the image. Ton's of dogs like this are put down on a daily basis, but nobody gives a fuck. She just likes the story and drama. It'd be better if she used this to promote no kill shelters then waste time on 1 animal, when she has 50 OTHERS SHES NEGLECTING!
No. 659396
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Hasn't he been commenting on her posts?
No. 659403
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This is her “omg my house is so hot” post btw. Curious that she deleted the tweets.
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No. 659415
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He sounds like such an entitled crybaby. “Boohoo, no one will work with me because I’ve proven to be a junkie who lets every band I’ve ever been in down. I am angry!!” I know he’s been talking to other bands lately, and I bet he’s only doing this to find new people to use.
No. 659419
>>659415Maybe if you didn't lie, use, & abuse people so much, then you would be better accepted.
No one wants to play your games anymore, Jonny. Not even Taylor. She's
been waiting for you to die since the two of you got together. We can see it in her eyes, hear it in her voice. You've sucked the life out of yet another vulnerable girl for money.
No. 659425
>>659415There's a saying that goes something like "If everyone around you is being an ass, it's because of you."
No one is saying no to you because they're two faced jerks, they're saying no because they don't want to be involved with a shit human being.
No. 659439
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>>659408looks like the dog's gone already. pic related
>>658933>>658936>>658938>>659037>>659408>>659043>cutter hereguys, please hide your powerlevel. you can discuss a topic without announcing your "credentials" and personal details.
No. 659441
>>659439agreed that the "cutter here" posts could've stopped after the 3rd one or something but imo it's fine to say you have personal experience with something, there's also a bunch of heroinfags in here that talk about their opinions on taylors drug use. as long as it's not blogposting who cares
anyway, i'm actually surprised that she let the dog go. i don't really get why she even took her in, it must have just been stressful for the dog and the cats, but great for her that she suppressed her hoarding and actually found a home for her.
No. 659456
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Real funny JC.(emoji)
No. 659461
>>659351what does she mean "it came down to who could meet the soonest??" It should have come down to who could be the best home for the dog. Thank god she actually rehomed the dog, but Taylor does not seem qualified to find a dog a good home. If she was willing to foster/cover costs of the dog the best thing for her to do would have been to partner with a local shelter and offer to sponsor and keep the dog until they could adopt her out properly. She still could have advertised the dog on her social media, but the shelter would have been able to properly vet the dog and screen applicants.
But then again letting a shelter screen her as a dog foster and find out how many animals she neglects probably wouldn't have gone well for her, so I guess she had to do things the stupid way.
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No. 659468
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Holy shit these stans…
No. 659469
>>659468Yes because junkies are such greeeeat role models.
In all seriousness, any parent concerned about their child using drugs would actually enroll them in REHAB. You know… those facilities with medical professionals and councilors trained and skilled in helping addicts recover? Taylor hardly fits the bill with her hoarding, manipulative, lying still using but pretending to be sober record.
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>>659187>>659186>>659185>>659184>>659183I love how after
all of these people gave this girl advice, the
only person she genuinely thanks & gives an update to is Taylor.
No. 659472
>>659467I used to do adoptions at a shelter, and yep that's all good stuff to do! Some shelters just do basic background checks and such, but the likelihood of an animal actually staying in a home forever goes way up if people adopting out do the interviews and such necessary to ensure they're finding a good owner.
So many people want to adopt dogs but don't want to keep them when they're not perfectly behaved, or if they get old and expensive/hard to care for. Plus people getting pets for dogfighting or other
abusive scenarios are everywhere, and they prefer unfixed pets which is another reason Taylor should have gotten that dog spayed herself. They also send people good at pretending to be a ~normal family person~ to get the dog so they look less suspicious. If she didn't do a background check Taylor has no idea who she really just gave that dog to.
No. 659485
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Jonny is def not sober, his pupils are way too small for that dim of light.
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>>659485And he has been “sober”? Maybe for like a day or two?
No. 659497
>>659488I'll never understand the desire to send well off YouTubers free shit. Art and other handmade stuff, sure, but things you're spending money on? Fuck that.
I want to send cat shit.
No. 659501
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>>659499it's a fedex office
No. 659523
>>659415his poor grammar annoys me.
too should be to.
paitent should be patient.
Iphones but can't even use spell check.
No. 659539
>>659488You have to have a lot of hubris and vanity to open a PO box just so people can send you free shit
>>659497Friendly reminder to all potential cowtippers never to send anything that contains DNA of you and your animals in the mail. The safest way to send shit to a target's house is to put then on mailing lists for Scientology recruitment, JW and Mormon visits, spammy businesses like hair loss product companies, etc. Not saying anyone should do that but I don't want any farmers out there getting arrested
>>659438>Music is a druggie industry, he would've fit in if he had some self control and didn't fuck over his bandmates.Yeah, it's really a testament to how shitty he is that he got blacklisted from an industry full of addicts and sex pests.
No. 659573
>>659558Please tell me this is a joke.
Where is this info from? One of the exes?
No. 659574
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Hopefully that 1 bedroom/1 bathroom he’s got marked is for him, and Taylor is finally kicking him out. Also, does he do anything but shop or ask for free things
No. 659577
>>659574or now that he's off the hook for paying rent, he's paying for a small place to meet up with girls he cheats with.
obviously tinfoil, but I don't think he's getting dumped any time soon, and it could be used for other reasons.
No. 659602
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This is why people doubt that she rehomed her Satanics.
No. 659603
>>659602Exactly this.
She just keeps telling on herself when she thought she'd be doing good by rehoming a dog. LOL.
TND really does not think things thru before posting anything, does she?
No. 659639
File: 1557448546442.webm (2.78 MB, 101x180, jonny.webm)
>>659618got you fam. jonny is serving 50yo man panhandling in the parking lot.
No. 659660
File: 1557452789200.png (97.2 KB, 586x360, Screen Shot 2019-05-09 at 9.45…)
>>659639caught this right before she deleted it. it was only up for 5 mins
No. 659665
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>>659660Hey Taylor remember this
No. 659678
File: 1557454950350.png (118.11 KB, 542x896, tnddrugz1.png)
No. 659685
File: 1557456344961.png (50.58 KB, 520x432, taydrinks.png)
No. 659687
>>659685>>659678Basically all it boils down to is
"It's
society's fault I drink & do drugs!"
No. 659689
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The girls were definitelty pregnant if she only spayed them instead of just neuturing the one boy
No. 659710
>>659708I don’t remember if it was the boy or girls but she claimed she had someone fixed in her first video about the rats.
It was proven false because none of them were shaved to show that fact (this was while still living in the apartment)
No. 659713
File: 1557463694628.png (202.05 KB, 1314x1033, Capture _2019-05-09-21-47-15.p…)
Sooooo I thought eating pasta and gluten is bad with people that have eds?
No. 659729
>>659678she's such a fucking hypocrite
"don't say things to such a young audience" is she fucking stupid, what about all those drug jokes and drug references she makes.
No. 659732
>>659639>Taylor's not feeling well! so I decided to take myself to a movie>I've got a lot on my mind, a lot on my plate right now>Sometimes it just helps to take yourself out of the situation, get yourself out of your head, go do something, take yourself out of the problemsounds like he's calling Taylor the problem he's had to "take himself out" to get away from. He sounds happy when he says "Taylor's not feeling well" like it's either not true or he doesn't give a shit that she's sick
>>659729>she didn't even know how to cut a line of cokewho's making drugs look normal/cool?
No. 659741
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She supposedly takes them out every day for an hour.
No. 659769
>>659675ugh the thing is these are
valid criticisms but they're suddenly not so
valid when you consider who it's coming from.
No. 659770
File: 1557498472256.png (20.69 KB, 612x619, ipso.PNG)
>>659720Ipsofactoid's account was only made this month though Also, what's with their account now being private + that bio? Has anyone here been keeping an eye on it and saw if there was anything to warrant what happened or?
No. 659778
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No. 659779
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No. 659780
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No. 659781
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No. 659782
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No. 659784
>>659780they sound like a real sap.
hey we're here for you when she eventually burns you, ipso.
No. 659818
File: 1557511593444.png (244.63 KB, 1080x1753, Screenshot_20190510-140227~2.p…)
gosh this kind of thing just illustrates how truly little she knows wrt professional animal care at all. she thought the simplest way to keep her rats from breeding was by performing a much more invasive surgery on two of her rats rather than a more superficial surgery on the male, with a faster recovery time. I feel like it's animal anatomy 101 to understand the uterus is harder to take out than the testicles
No. 659825
>>659818By the time she gets around to having him neutered his life will be half over.
>I didn't know that!The refrain of a pet expert.
No. 659850
File: 1557523430341.jpeg (431.82 KB, 1216x1531, B374A2AC-DF6C-4282-929C-23AF33…)
Was looking through her ig photos the other day and saw this big ass bruise on her arm. Tinfoiling perhaps but that doesn’t really look like an ‘oops I bumped my arm’ bruise….
No. 659857
>>659769So true. They're completely
valid, but she's so up her own ass and thinks that somehow she isn't a hypocrite, and she's actually better than the people she's calling out.
Man, people can "change" and "grow" and she might think that making drug use into a "cute and quirky" thing is wrong now, but that doesn't mean that you're better. Taylor made the same jokes and thought using drugs was the "in thing". You're still part of the problem. You re a drug user and need to remove yourself from your own ass.
No. 659864
File: 1557525745376.jpeg (307.03 KB, 1242x1614, EB5E2A71-803E-4B7B-AB61-837FFF…)
Anyone else catch her rant? I wasn’t able to screen shot all. She also tweeted that she will continue blocking but she wish she wouldn’t have to - instead wishes she could explain to each and every one, but she can’t. So she blocks because it’s TrIgGeRiNg.
No. 659870
File: 1557525997525.jpeg (115.47 KB, 750x609, 4B9B5A04-E232-4723-9C94-A6FD0E…)
No. 659873
File: 1557526115084.jpeg (357.05 KB, 1242x1320, B9979D88-3E76-4512-8DCB-F5F0D6…)
I was able to screenshot this. Clicked on a notification but said it was deleted. Surprise surprise.
Hi, Taylor.
When will you leave your loser BF?
No. 659874
File: 1557526122455.png (72.97 KB, 678x497, tnddeleted.png)
Here's 2 deleted tweets
No. 659876
File: 1557526178384.jpg (192.33 KB, 1217x915, ZODMcuo.jpg)
She’s losing her shit.
No. 659880
File: 1557526306710.png (160.21 KB, 678x416, Screen Shot 2019-05-10 at 6.09…)
I missed some, and she deleted another that read 'ima stop posting. I'm having a bad day because i had to go to a meeting to prove my animals weren't dangerous to my community so i didn't get kicked out bc people who dislike me keep calling my neighborhood leasing office. It never stops. I'm legit debating moving again'. Is taylor finally learning she can't move on with her life while Jonny is still in the picture? Haven't been on the thread in awhile, but jennifer has been posting LOADS of song lyrics that suggest Taylor isn't any better, since we know she likes to indirect Taylor with memes and quotes.
No. 659883
File: 1557526396711.png (83.06 KB, 795x727, tndbreakdown.png)
At least she can admit this…
No. 659888
File: 1557526653847.png (44.75 KB, 596x415, twitter11.PNG)
again with the good ol "everyone was joking about it so i thought i should too"
No. 659889
>>659888not to mention this
>>659877 was a few weeks ago
No. 659890
File: 1557526968131.jpeg (75.34 KB, 750x560, 47316307-62A0-4782-BBBC-7F41C8…)
Probably not about Taylor, yay or nay?
No. 659892
File: 1557527034383.png (554.2 KB, 1304x946, Screen Shot 2019-05-10 at 6.23…)
No. 659895
>>659894I guess the atrium
wasn't really worth it…
No. 659900
File: 1557529522737.png (1.24 MB, 1440x2712, Capture _2019-05-10-16-00-45.p…)
Lmao did this set her off?
No. 659901
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No. 659902
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No. 659903
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I think this is what set her off. Sorry for the multi post but man she snapped
No. 659905
>>659896Yeah I find it unlikely anyone really gives a shit about her animals when she is no longer in an apartment.
Her last line of defence is almost always connected to her animals and how she is the
victim in one way or another.
No. 659906
File: 1557530468823.png (1.39 MB, 1393x2197, Capture _2019-05-10-16-19-43.p…)
Mama bout to spill the beans?
No. 659907
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No. 659908
File: 1557530630459.png (54.43 KB, 528x520, letmegrow.png)
No. 659913
>>659892LMAO does she think moving again will solve her problems? Some wack job will track her down sooner or later. SA isn't really that big of a town either.
>>659908She's going off the chain. The fact that she feels the need to defend herself so hard just confirms that she's lying.
No. 659917
File: 1557531833309.png (410.99 KB, 1440x2880, dumbbitch.png)
>>659908Okay, rewrite history, that wasn't her dumbass excuse at all. She justified it by saying "people think snakes cause pain and morphine is a painkiller."
No. 659932
>>659892Has it ever occurred to her that maybe it isn't the haterz?
She's living in a luxury gated community, and I don't think they'll take well to two junkies with a bunch of animals suddenly moving in, especially if they have a HOA.
So I mean you have rich people suddenly seeing someone moving in with a fucking zoo, and most of it are reptiles, so what does she expect really?
And also judging by the message Jonny posted on discord with their landlord, they don't seem to be getting along. Maybe she's realized this is way out of her league and instead of admitting she just doesn't fit in she has to blame it on the people who won't let her grow and be happy.
No. 659940
>>659936She is following the rules, then. Obviously the HOA never anticipated exotic animal owners to want to move in with them.
I don't doubt some of her neighbors are upset, but they would have called about it back when she actually moved in, not when she's already been there for a month or so and she barely goes outside anyway. I'm thinking this was mostly farmers in the end.
No. 659948
File: 1557536254157.png (29.33 KB, 310x594, story2.png)
>"Get rid of all the takers in your life."
Dump him Taylor
No. 659949
>>659907curious what everyone speculates this to be about… I would love if she was leaving jonny. But it might be something different like getting her finances in order or holding herself more accountable for her pet care. Or god forbid, she actually does an inpatient program.
Or something stupid like shes going to be streaming too.
No. 659955
File: 1557537401231.png (264.68 KB, 1373x1331, Capture _2019-05-10-17-06-18.p…)
If her mom speaks up it may save Taylor or maybe let her hit rock bottom to go look for help. We all knew johnny boy used her till she was dry. Taylor hates to be hated but dates the most problematic dude there is.
No. 659957
>>659908>snakes are deadly- like morphine is.morphine isn't even deadly though. what a stupid excuse.
>>659925It could be that people online were notifying the HOA; it's one of the most plausible reasons that they'd know about pets that are kept indoors. Though people in upper-middle class developments tend to be nosy and have a stick up their ass so it could go either way. Or be a mixture of both.
>>659936Oh wow, they moved in without checking to see if the HOA even allowed exotic pets? Even if the rules are unreasonable, you have to be a fucking idiot to move into a development without making sure that you can follow whatever dumbass rules the HOA has.
>>659949It does sound like she's getting fed up with Johnny. However, whether she actually does anything about it remains to be seen.
No. 659959
>>659940I'm, no she isn't?
Even if you consider the first point as not explicitly banning animals that aren't cats or dogs, she uses her animals for commercial purposes by using them for her videos.
She also had more than three cats. So…
No. 659966
File: 1557539162688.png (1.07 MB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20190510-214451.png)
he's looking pretty strung out, and has tons of new little wounds on his face like he's been picking a lot
No. 659972
>>659962Let's not forget a big ass fishtank. HOA would probably take it up will the owner for allowing to rent to her. HOA's don't like it when junkies and rapists start heading into their Upper-middle class neighborhoods.
>>659907This is probably the kronos cage. Nothing really milky imo. She's not gonna leave johnny imo, she's too scared he'll retaliate or hunt her down later.
>>659971He's got puffy hand's (eyes too) because of his hepatitis and probably a host of other issues. Drugs rob your body of nutrients and cause inflammation. Probably aged himself decades internally because of his drug use.
No. 659987
>>659862I think it was just that the male should be neutered but kept separate until he couldn't impregnate the females, but neutering is always safer than spaying especially in such small animals, so she should have gone with neutering/temporarily separating the male.
>>659925 this, yeah! Idk what San Antonio is like, but I'm looking for housing in SoCal right now and when landlords can afford to be picky about not letting you have animals, or at least more than 2 cats/small dogs, they definitely will be picky. Who knows if Taylor actually told them how many animals she was moving with or told them, on top of her 3 cats and general hoard, she'd decide to foster a dog so soon after moving in there?
No. 659989
>>659870I mean he posted the whole house and so did you Taylor. And the rental. The sign for the community wasn't even necessary.
So ends the "dumbass" scandal.
No. 660028
>>659888What a childish excuse. Even 10 year olds know this logic is shit, thanks to famous examples like jumping off a bridge if your friends do it, would you be racist if your friends were, etc.
She's using the logic of a five year old. She's either a fucking moron, or a complete and utter narcissist surpassing her horrific mother…or both. Likely both.
>>659917Dating+living with+fucking a rapist means you have 0 issues with rapists, bitch. It's the ultimate condonement of him and his disgusting actions.
No. 660029
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Fucking disgusting do you want him going down on y'all???!!! I feel hella violated
No. 660034
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Still high as we speak, and not just the weedy kind of high.
So he’s been: high on H all day, went to see endgame a third time to avoid Taylor and her being “sick” when we’ve already seen she is just having a “bad day”, Jonny is done with the “high school drama BS” and isn’t afraid to say he’ll treat Taylor like a “bitch” if she acts like one.
Plus Taylor just went on a Twitter rant publicly noting that JC is a dumbass and she doesn’t agree with him.
Let’s hope this is the beginning of the end of the TND + JC chronicles
No. 660049
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Look who posted the the quote on TND’s IG story
No. 660055
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>>659960mama dean gives off some serious crazy tammy vibes
>>660029>imagine watching his bloated face contorting into an expression of dumb lust as he catches a glimpse of your lingerie-turned-streetwear>imagine being filled with disgust and dread as you see him ambling aggressively towards you but are experienced enough to know that he won't take no for an answer>imagine tensing with dread as his tremoring hepatitis hands squeeze your rigid body and battle to take off your lingerie-turned-streetwear while he mumbles one-liners ripped straight from a mid-00's alt porn flick>imagine feeling his doughy water-weight press you into whatever surface you happen to be on as he half-heartedly tries to find the right place to insert his disease-ridden carrot, thus prolonging your suffering>imagine having to lie back and mitigate your disgust by remembering that he was once a minor figure in a niche music scene as he spends an hour trying to thrust through the haze of whatever substance he happens to be on>imagine him running his swollen fingers across your body as he finally comes to climax with a grunt that he somehow manages to mumble>imagine him heaving his body off of yours with great effort and feeling relief that your ordeal is over, though you are now covered in the sickly-sweet musk of somebody whose organs are shutting down>imagine him nestling against you and giving you the only modicum of true affection that you receive from him, and while you are repulsed you are also soothed by the only positive attention you receive from a person that you know beyond some comments online>imagine feeling a mixture of relief and disappointment as he becomes satisfied with two minutes of cuddling, utters an edgy phrase that went out of vogue ten years ago, gets up to take a piss, and retreats to the desktop set-up that you paid thousands of dollars for only to ignore you for the rest of the day No. 660062
>>660044>>660034Taylor being the person he's referring to as a bitch here
>>659890 is total speculation. I doubt he'd be so blunt, he's never openly criticized her like that before. She pays his bills after all… When she remembers to.
No. 660073
>>660068How do you fuck up your living arrangements that quickly?
If she does move again it will be a colossol waste of money. What's she gonna tell her stans? Bet that 20k for inpatient is looking pretty cheap in hindsight.
No. 660078
>>660034but it's a sObEr friday night, right????
Idiot.
whoever believes he is sober is as stupid as he is.
No. 660124
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He really thinks he is funny
No. 660128
>>659892yeah no, it's because you don't pay the rent on time! no one is bothering the 'community', you slack on the rent you dumbass!
the truth never passes this girl's lips, she wouldn't know it if it slapped her in the face. with jonny or without, she's a failure.
No. 660129
File: 1557597026740.png (1.98 MB, 750x1334, 64F8ACCF-C190-4F68-A84A-614DA4…)
Looks like Betsy and TND are pretty close, she seems to be the only one who can probably get TND away from JC. I wish no ill intent on Betsy or Taylor, but JC can go die k thnx
No. 660136
>>660135I bet if she applied some pressure she could get paid double she makes now.
They've got nobody else to look after their shit, and don't trust anyone not to report them for drugs.
No. 660166
File: 1557608211808.jpeg (55.38 KB, 750x265, B3F13CC0-8102-4AD3-BFD5-676E18…)
LEAVE. HIM. GURL.
No. 660167
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He’s such a mess.
Aren’t high schoolers your thing, JC?
Or is that all fake too?
No. 660168
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TND’s most recent likes.
She is DEF fed up with JC and his dumbass
No. 660170
>>660168She was 'fed up' with him around this same time last year, but went back to him immediately.
I don't think this time will be any different, but we shall see…
No. 660171
File: 1557609061025.png (61.53 KB, 476x550, tndupdate1.png)
No. 660185
>>659870"My dumbass boyfriend" lmfaooo after all the "OMG WE LOVE EACH OTHER SOOO MUCH~ nobody understand us!~~" bullshit.. this is what she really thinks of him lmao. She tries to act like she has this great life and boyfriend when in reality her life and relationship is shit.
LEAVE HIM GIRL
No. 660187
>>659890Thinking about moving again? But I thought she was "renting to own" according to her?? Hmmm sounds like a lie and she is just strictly renting. If it's that easy to move again, there's no way she's trying to buy this overly expensive house.
Seems like the honeymoon stage of them coming into this new house is gone. The atrium content has become repetitive and boring already, the house gets way too hot because of all the windows, and she is still the same old Taylor with the same awful
abusive boyfriend.
It's clear she really wanted this house to be a "fresh start" where she thought she could come back and fake that she's better and hoped she could just sweep everything under the rug and continue lying without consequence.
But damn she's really going off lately. Her true emotions about her situation are coming out. She's miserable and everyone has been saying this since day 1, but no she has to prove the "haterz" wrong.
Looks like your "haterz" have been the ones who were right, hmmm?
You're not going to get better or be any happier until he's out of your life Taylor. Seriously. Just listen for once in your life, please
No. 660202
File: 1557615704112.png (479.91 KB, 592x598, cheese.png)
Cheese Update
No. 660215
File: 1557618635475.jpeg (426.29 KB, 1125x1441, 55B1773C-FFA9-49A2-AFA7-75E21F…)
If she’s renting how is she going to replace the turf with real grass? Landlords don’t tend to like unnecessary work or tenants doing stuff themselves
No. 660216
File: 1557618712189.png (1.99 MB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20190511-175104.png)
She's posting a LOT about saving money… Guess not working for 4 months, setting up the Manlet, moving, and the irresponsible spending have caught up with you huh Tay
No. 660217
File: 1557618736215.jpeg (616.95 KB, 1125x1574, 589CF3E9-2625-4C6A-ADE5-648B60…)
Cheese/150g tank Instagram update pt 1
No. 660218
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pt 2
No. 660312
>>660284Fishtuber here.
Ich happens. Ich isnt a big deal and is treatable. And salt tanks are more susceptible even if you go to a good fish store because most of saltwater it's taken out of the Wild there is going to be some ich and contamination. She is a s
* pet keeper and Aquariust and kills many of her fish from her lack of knowledge. And most the time you don't have a holding tank for saltwater smaller tanks do not stay cool enough for saltwater Plus harder to regulate. I see it all the time in my hobby people get a small saltwater tank and they can never keep it regulated. I think her Predator Tank was overstocked and too small.
No. 660361
>>660322OP image from this thread
>>603048 etc etc. It was all over, it's not some lost lore.
No. 660404
File: 1557673632333.png (1.54 MB, 828x1792, 9B3E2CCB-5278-4B24-81C6-896B22…)
She’s revolting. Wow.
No. 660425
>>660421Meaning she's killed alot of fish in the past probably.
Can't see why she'd want to upgrade to 300. A 150 is pretty kickass. I don't think she realizies how much time and money large fishtanks take to maintain. Not discounting the fact that a new tank is 5k plus if she wants something custom made and delivered. Thats not taking into account equipment, lights, water change stuff, food, medication, corals, hardscape. I could easily see 20k on a new set up.
But inpatient still too expensive lol.
No. 660511
>>660470>>660505I agree with the other anon. It's pretty common to still have a quarantine tank for saltwater. Pretty much all the regular customers at my aquatic store have one. And I know workers at other aquarium stores all have quarantine tanks for their set ups at home, even though they're the ones receiving/maintaining tanks at their store.
Ich is common and happens to the best of tanks, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't take preventative measures anyways..
No. 660520
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No. 660533
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>>660531A golden response!
No. 660538
>>660535 When an abuser tries to love-bomb & manipulate you, telling you to "Remember the
good times" Do the opposite; remember how much they made you feel like shit, remember how many times they've broken promises to you. Remind yourself that you don't want to put yourself through this shit anymore.
No. 660548
>>660541I'd be proud of her too. All other issues aside, if she leaves him I definitely see her life improving. She would probably feel empowered as fuck too, and could use that boost to clean up the rest of her life.
When you follow gossip about someone like TND for a while it is hard to not develop a soft spot for. It is very clear that she is not a bad person, but her views on the world are warped and she doesn't understand that lying is only easy in the moment and will later haunt you.
She needs to start learning from her life experiences.
No. 660559
File: 1557701032752.png (42.63 KB, 588x270, hamstercare.png)
Why don't you leave this idea for the people that actually own hamsters, Taylor?
No. 660564
File: 1557702156241.png (577.81 KB, 1439x760, Capture _2019-05-12-18-48-48.p…)
This was her comment on Dr. Phil's post. "Hired on a whim from a pet store with no prior animal experience…" It's almost like she forgets she worked at fucking Petco less than 4 years ago and was in that same situation. Not to mention mammals, like reptiles, go more by length, width, and height measurements than Gallons. They need an absolute minimum of about 620 inches of floor space, meaning they'd need a 40 Breeder as opposed to a 40 long to even hit that. Stop treating hamsters like fish and let the people that know what they're doing talk about it. Besides, a lot of people at the pet store do try to inform people, you can't blame people just trying to get a paycheck for the actions of the company.
No. 660578
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i usually just read here but i didnt see anyone post about how she removed manlet from her bio on instagram
No. 660583
>>660578read harder then. this was posted here:
>>660514and
>>660515 No. 660589
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He's been retweeting her stuff all day though, so it seems unlikely that they're done.
No. 660605
>>660599That's because he's a possessive little choad boy.
Don't put him back in your bio Taylor, you aren't his bitch.
No. 660611
>>660605>>660599>>660597>>660589She could end this fucking cycle
today.
This man ruined not only her career, but her life.
Her health is forever compromised, more so than it was
before she got with him. Her behavior took a turn for the worse after being influenced by him.
She must realize by now that he's taken
so much from her…
No. 660614
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tbh, Taylor would have been no help during the Chrissy Teigan debacle
No. 660615
File: 1557708463567.png (49.47 KB, 578x458, morphe.png)
Aaand now she's trying to discredit someone else…
No. 660627
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>>6606251st pic in her tweet
No. 660628
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>>6606252nd pic in her tweet
No. 660635
>>660564Considering this girl can't look after ANY of her small mammals, this is fucking rich. Her mouse care for starters was shit. Gus was in one of those shitty plastic cages his entire life instead of having a nice big cage with plenty of floor space so he can burrow.
Her rat care is shit. Her cage is full of fleece that will get stinky in no time at all, she should really use aspen or kiln-dried pine shavings at the bottom in a pan so rats can again, BURROW. They LOVE climbing but they also love digging!
I'm not well versed in hedgehog care so I can't comment on it much, but her hedgie enclosures always look like shit so I don't really have to say anything else.
She's the last person to be giving advice on rodents or small mammals.
No. 660648
>>660646Oh, so
that's why Taylor is out to discredit her…
…Anybody want a free Macbook?
No. 660650
File: 1557713135113.png (65.58 KB, 528x614, tndaccusation3.png)
God, her stans are fucking dumb. Apparently notepad screenshots are "Receipts stacked thick!"
No. 660652
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They are cruelty free so her ENTIRE tweet is wrong. Hope someone finally goes after her for slander.
No. 660654
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>>660650So according to Taylor "It doesn't say it ISN'T a scam, so it must be!"
Also lmao at the stan underneath
>"she can post what she wants" So she can write libel whenever she wants??? Cool.
No. 660656
>>660654Taylor whines when people request evidence she actually rehomed her animals.
But everyone else needs to bend to whims for evidence. Fuck off. She spends all her money on LV bags and shitty makeup and doesn't donate shit to help animals.
No. 660658
File: 1557713523491.png (56.78 KB, 528x470, tndaccusation4.png)
>>660654Once again screencaps of a notepad rant don't count as 'evidence' either
No. 660659
File: 1557713800452.png (21.57 KB, 470x248, tndmorphe.png)
No. 660664
>>660658Why promote that code anyway if its badger blabla
>>660628 She's ready to start some shit today, Jonny must have pissed her off real good!
No. 660666
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No. 660669
>>660665You missed the point totally. Taylor posted this message
>>660625 about both the brand
>>660628 and the code. Therefore, Taylor backpedalling and digging deeper by saying "I
wanted to promote the code to get people to shop this brand but it's just too scammy…" is fucking ridiculous - if the brand is cruel why promote any code in the first place? I can't believe I have to explain this point.
No. 660674
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>>6606733 of 3
>>660672>so much research!Just ask the girl what she does and how?
No. 660675
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>>660670
>"All I wanted to say was morphe is not directly collaborating with a no kill shelter. That's all I wanted to say."No it wasn't, you insinuated that The person that provided the code was pocketing the money & therefore, scamming people. That is
libel. No more no less.
No. 660676
File: 1557715419481.jpg (298.44 KB, 1310x1466, taylor.jpg)
>pops off at multiple people, starts drama over nothing
"your intentions are pure"!
Nah, she's big mad with Jonny and she's taking it out on the internet and anyone doing a better job in life than her.
No. 660679
File: 1557715512186.png (25.92 KB, 438x252, dumbstans2.png)
How Taylor stans behave when Taylor is proven wrong, call them a bully & declare yourself the winner!
No. 660680
File: 1557715607115.png (56.01 KB, 440x556, dumbstan1.png)
>>660679Oh good lord her stans are insufferable
No. 660684
File: 1557715967938.png (58.33 KB, 574x482, tndrama1.png)
>>660682This person pretty much said what I was going to. She really hasn't learned from the whole 'South Texas Dragons' debacle
No. 660694
File: 1557716773955.png (62.67 KB, 516x604, goodtndfan.png)
At the end of the day, it shouldn't be about Taylor's feelings, it should be about the animals.
This fan gets it.
No. 660695
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No. 660702
>>660666BUT I AM THE REAL
VICTIM HERE WAAAAHHH
She's so typically a narcissist it's really truly hilarious.
No. 660722
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Fuck me, she's STILL whining about it
>"There’s no real exact proof but apparently she’s shown enough that people believe her "
Wow Taylor, it's just like you after you lie about shit.
No. 660723
File: 1557720113729.png (27.27 KB, 522x228, tndwhining.png)
Fuck me, she's STILL whining about it
>"There’s no real exact proof but apparently she’s shown enough that people believe her "
Wow Taylor, it's just like you after you lie about shit.
No. 660726
>>660723"so I apologized"
Bitch where. Taylor's apologies are like her tears, a whole lotta boohooing and high dramatics but nothing actually comes out.
No. 660733
File: 1557721357435.png (21.52 KB, 532x212, stanattack.png)
…Aaand her stans are coming for Nayeon
No. 660738
>>660723This is why you don't have female friends, Taylor. You're ripping down a fellow female Pet YouTuberd with vicious rumors you can't back up.
Stay in your own damn lane and get your hot mess life together. Instead you rather try to distract yourself from it with stirring up shit.
You're in no shape to use your platform "for good " if all you do is witch hunts.
No. 660744
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No. 660781
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she posted a long ass caption on Instagram about it too
No. 660784
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No. 660787
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Cute.
No. 660789
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Anyone notice how fucked up Jonny's face has become lately? Stop picking at your skin, your gonna be a moon face with all those crators.
Taylor's face is painfully Photoshopped to hide what ever she's got underneath too. Both their Pupils have been tiny for days in almost every video and picture of them, Taylor's increasingly dramatic, Jonny hardly sleeps.
They're on drugs 100%
No. 660801
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>>660784From the same thread on Twitter
No. 660818
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No. 660822
>>660818lmao yes they are dr phil fans, does she really believe that?
>>660816I can't find it now but we talked about this ring in the past and taylor commented publicly on it then too, she does insist it's not engagement.
No. 660829
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… so why is it OK for you to make a whole video about improper hamster care?
No. 660836
File: 1557757832774.png (1.17 MB, 1080x2160, Screenshot_20190513-093018.png)
Fresh trackmarks?
No. 660864
>>660850She really
really should leave the Dr.Phil video to someone like MunchiesPlace or Pickles.
She has countless fans suggesting video-ideas to her all the time. Maybe she should look to them instead?
No. 660866
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Looks like she FINALLY addressed the shit Jonny said about Billie Eilish…
No. 660871
>>660866Aside from ruining her career
and her life, Jonny is just one big PR-nightmare for her. Whenever she
doesn't fuck something up, he always does/says
something that makes her look bad.
No. 660891
>>660867Lol a shit ton of cider. Good lord, no amount of filters can save what she's done to her lips. Wtf is with that outfit too? Seriously she's walking around in lingerie but its only to enhance the "animal education" she must get off on this shit.
She's hiding her gut too. Probably a few too many "gulten free" whataburgers.
No. 660921
>>660818I'm sorry but I don't believe this one bit. Convenient how she specifically mentions it's over DMs, that way she can say anything is happening and people can't fact check it
>>660836more scars. they look pretty similar to SH scars that are a month or two old, but they could easily be much older. some of the lines look like they have raises where the actual cut would be (not the inflamed bit of skin surrounding it), which makes me think they're not too old. they're too convenient for scratches, they're all in a clump, the same length, they're straight and they're also on her nondominant arm
No. 660923
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Oh Taylor…
No. 660930
>>660923"Nice to know you support a sexual abuser"
tnd: "I don't support James"
everyone: "We weren't talking about James…"
No. 660932
>>660930"You mean James Charles right? I'm just gonna assume you mean James Charles &
no one else…"
No. 660939
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>>660930In the context of the tweet I believe they were talking abt James. But still goes to show how hypocritical she is lol
No. 660941
>>660940she only wants drama when she can be the one on the attacking side with everyone agreeing with her.
what she fails to realize is, you can only sort of get away with that when you're calling out legit
problematic people with factual evidence to back yourself up. Also, you yourself can't be
problematic, lol. She's an idiot trying to get heat off herself so she's not the main issue.
Taylor, I'm a part of 3 different higd reptile Discords. No one in any of them like you. All of them have daily discussions on why you're not a good representation of the community, and no one should use you for reference.
No. 660942
>>660940she only wants drama when she can be the one on the attacking side with everyone agreeing with her.
what she fails to realize is, you can only sort of get away with that when you're calling out legit
problematic people with factual evidence to back yourself up. Also, you yourself can't be
problematic, lol. She's an idiot trying to get heat off herself so she's not the main issue.
Taylor, I'm a part of 3 different higd reptile Discords. No one in any of them like you. All of them have daily discussions on why you're not a good representation of the community, and no one should use you for reference.
No. 660943
>>660940she only wants drama when she can be the one on the attacking side with everyone agreeing with her.
what she fails to realize is, you can only sort of get away with that when you're calling out legit
problematic people with factual evidence to back yourself up. Also, you yourself can't be
problematic, lol. She's an idiot trying to get heat off herself so she's not the main issue.
Taylor, I'm a part of 3 different higd reptile Discords. No one in any of them like you. All of them have daily discussions on why you're not a good representation of the community, and no one should use you for reference.
No. 660950
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>sober
>haha
No. 660967
File: 1557797167687.jpg (Spoiler Image,75.23 KB, 711x516, luna.jpg)
>>660836For the sake of knowing what you're looking for, here are track marks. Warning, pic is of Luna and contains bad tits and general grottiness.
Fresh injection sites are a little different-looking to this again, but look for a reddish puncture wound over a vein in that instance.
As mentioned already these marks look like sh.
No. 660974
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bitchwhere.jpg
No. 660988
>>660950I love how she admits to being desperately lonely and he's begging people to hang out with him.
Not a healthy relationship or life at all. I'm shocked she doesn't have a Discord to keep her company, but that requires maintenance and work to establish.
Part of me thinks their "sober" only because now they're bored and lonely being shut-ins together.
No. 660993
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No. 661015
>>660781She sure does talk alot when she’s high out of her mind and then either delete it or forgets about it when she gets sober.
The drugs and your manlet is just going to pull you lower ever day you stay. The more drugs you take, Taylor, the more dependent you’ll be to Jonny. I wont be surprise if he tries to pimp you out on twitch for views
No. 661019
>>661015I doubt he would. He seems to want to keep twitch separate from her. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s grooming new shiny
victims on there now that he’s destroyed so much of Taylor. She is ‘so lonely’ and even took his name out of everything. He’s still on twitch every night. Whatever is going on between them seems even more
toxic than usual.
No. 661063
>>661019Seriously, Taylor is openly showing more and more how unhappy she is with him. Calling him a dumbass, telling people she doesn’t like the things he says, and to me the biggest one being admitting just how horribly lonely she is.
Taylor, you’re lonely because you are being isolated from everyone you know. You pushed everyone out of your life for him. You clearly regret that now, and want to be your own person and get out of the house with other human beings besides him.
So you just drink and take drugs to drown your sadness. But it never lasts… it will just make you more dependent on him.
He has been out of her bio for a couple days now. I hope she is slowly but surely mentally preparing herself to boot his ass to the curb. He is clearly a trash human being, rapist and
toxic piece of shit for a significant other. He used to at least try to pretend and show the world how “in love~” they are, but now he doesn’t even bother with the love bombing anymore.
She supposedly paces the house sobbing and crying, meanwhile her bf is just…m sitting there playing video games? GOALZ am I right?
TAYLOR. GET CLEANED UP AND LEAVE IS ASS.
She has fucked up her reputation a LOT but her stans have shown that if she were to leave him and get her act together, she could make somewhat of a redemption for herself.
No. 661114
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Interesting…
No. 661118
>>661114In b4 the expected "lol it's just a joke dude" tweet. Because what could be funnier than
abusive, violent manchildren who start by punching holes in walls/doors? It's even more fun when they move to punching the wall right beside you! And super fun when they start hitting YOU, but it's okay, they are still just such a good person underneath it all and your love can totes heal them!
No. 661123
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She just posted this story lol
No. 661133
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>>661123jonny tweeted this about 5 minutes before her instagram story. i wonder what has hurt his feelings today?
she’s back to posting about ordering ‘gluten free’ junk food, so i wouldn’t take any of this too seriously
No. 661134
>>661133Maybe if you weren't showing off a pic of just you with your exe's cats (the one ex that has a
restraining order against him I might add), there wouldn't be "bullshit online about you"?… Just a hunch
No. 661142
>>661133"but damn it's all true. "
wouldn't upset you if it weren't true. You're a
toxic-trash human being who belongs in prison.
No. 661173
>>661138Jonny is 100% stupid, selfish, and a disgusting person who's never tried to truly improve himself. Maybe he's tried to work on his public image, sure. but the dude has no personal reflection on himself.
just to derail in general:
I know there are people who want to see Taylor crumble and suffer, but I really believe a lot of us on this thread would just love to see her leave Jonny. Taylor was young when she started her hobby/channel and it's ridiculous to assume anyone, in any profession, is perfect. She would be farther than she is had she never got in with him.
For everyone ripping on her for renting property for the cost she's paying… you would be tearing her apart for purchasing a home, with or without Jonny.
I'm not wanting to tell people to be soft here, obvy. She's hidden and covered a lot… but anything and everything she does is going to be criticized to the core and she knows that. Would you post yourself in those conditions?
No. 661175
>>661173I like to think most of us are here out of concern for the animals in her care. I've been vocal about her shit care but I would love to see her leave Johnny and clean herself up because it would mean a better life for her animals.
She comes so close so often just going by her twitter but she's not strong enough to make that final break unfortunately.
No. 661187
>>661173I am rooting for her still
Would be very happy to see her life make a 180
No. 661200
>>661133I also stand for Taylor when it comes to Jonny, she might be a bit of a nutcase but honestly she's in such a sad situation being with that rotten hearted, self centred narcissistic bitch boy who loves chunks of plastic, drugs and Instagram thots more than anything else.
He's done Taylor so dirty by using her for money, she would be so much better off rebuilding herself alone with the help of family and friends which clearly she craves right now after being isolated by that absuive piece of shit.
I always thought Taylor would wind up with a younger, attractive country boy who rides horses, quiet, humble, shares common interests and actually treats her like a decent human. Your personality alters depending on who you spend time around, Taylor's got issues but around Jonny they manifest 10 fold, imagine how much better she'd be if she were surrounded by decent people, Jonny and Taylor have nothing in common.
Work on yourself Taylor, you will and do deserve better than him.
Think of all the many many better guys out there and just know that no matter what, Jonny will be miserable no matter where he ends up because he will abuse the next girl too, and every girl after. They never stop their shitty games no matter how many times you forgive them, try to help them, it's not your responsibility to fix him too, he's broken you Enough hun stop giving into his whinging and shitty behaviour.
No. 661215
>>661212Plus, he has already posted a nude of her, but the bits are covered by her thong and hand. I guarantee he has actual, full nudes of her, and he would probably release them in a heartbeat if she left him.
Besides that yeah, he must have tons of dirt on her if she's continuing to stay with this
abusive shithead.
With her being open about how unhappy and lonely she is, and Jonny's tweet and her IG story from earlier, hopefully she's making a plan to get out. Why else would she post shit like this online, but then stay with him behind the scenes? He probably just treats her worse when she speaks up about how unhappy she is because he knows it's primarily because of their relationship. But Jonny's always been the one so keen on making it seem like he doesn't care, hence his dumbass childish "miss me with that high school bullshit!" remarks all the time. Clearly he does care, because it's slowly but surely coming out that she's miserable with him and wants to get away. You poor little "goals" relationship isn't what you wanted to pretend it is.
No. 661221
>>661212>>661218Would people believe him though?
His own reputation isn't exactly squeaky-clean either…
No. 661227
>>661221I would definitely not.
Pretty sure he would say anything to throw shade if she dumped him. So I wouldn't take much of it seriously.
And really, if she just moves on with her life and shows us all that she has changed by being the person she has wanted to be with her animals, then I dont think she should even make any explanation videos or apology videos.
We will notice it when she is better cause it will reflect in her animal care.
No. 661228
>>661226What do you mean, give him ideas on releasing dirt on her? If he has actual proof she's killed more animals from neglect, and lied about rehoming animals, etc, are you saying we don't deserve to know?
Either way, we're just speculating what he may or may not have against her. There are a hundred possible reasons why she's still with this disgusting human being. It's her choice but she's clearly not happy while making it.
No. 661233
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No. 661235
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No. 661236
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>>661233something's going down
No. 661246
>>661235"some days these people don't let up?" wat.
this is the most supportive this forum has been of her in a long ass time.
the past few comments have almost been a string of encouraging support towards taylor.
he is panicking.
No. 661248
>>661235TL;DR
"If I go down, so does she. She doesn't
have a choice."
No. 661256
>>661250We see exactly what kinda person he is because he displays it all on social media, and we are not clouded by his manipulative ways
We also see that Taylor is not a piece of shit or anything that warrants the mental abuse he no doubt puts her through. She is just fucking naive and needs to stop lying cause it only leads to more lies and it's time to learn that lesson once and for all.
Pretty sure that her animals will be cared for properly once she gets out of the depression she has been in, so I'm nowhere near as worried about that.
No. 661264
>>661235That "WE are sick" doesn't sit well with me. Seems unnecessary since he's the one who streams.
Sorry for the major tinfoil, but what if she is trying to leave and he doesn't let her and is threatening her or something. I hope she's safe at least…
No. 661266
>>661235And of course he's projecting his troubles onto her as well with all this "We/Us" bullshit.
Taylor isn't the one trying to taunt/
trigger his ex. That's his own damn fault.
No. 661267
>>661255Exactly. He knows Taylor is catching on so he's taking his insecurity to the public to further manipulate her. Even though i will, among others, not forget how she let this affect her animal's lives, she will still be immensely supported
if she leaves. Taylor is the only thing keeping him afloat rn, if she outed his abuse and left for good there's nothing he could do to hurt her career any further.
No. 661271
He's been a bum for so long. He doesn't even have a band now, his non-existent twitch career will never support him. She doesn't want to be his mother, and he's probably always whiny, mopey and pissy.
>>661264Wouldn't be surprised if he pulled the classic, "i'll kill myself", "I'll relapse", "I'll Kill your animals", "I won't leave", "This is MY HOUSE".
Classic manipulative cycle. Tommorow he'll probably be "im sorry, it wont happen again" Im guessing her and jonny are relapsing, hence the sickness.
She's obviously thinking about it. Removing from the bio seems pretty telling.
No. 661278
>>661264they're junkies still, that's why they're 'sick'. if arguing got he better of them they haven't sorted out getting their shit, or they used more in the last week or w/e.
look guys– taylor posts manipulative stuff to her audience and you need to not buy into that manipulation. yes she does need to leave him. if she's serious she will do it, and we'll hear about it when she's somewhere else. any posts about 'maybe I —' aren't anything more than a narc playing with the emotions of their audience for another attention hit, sadly.
also the door thing is from the apartment thy vacated and there's no way to know it was jonny or just clumsy moving. either way they're sloppy people.
No. 661280
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>>661235This is a classic Jonny-move.
He's said the same sappy, manipulative shit about Chelsea as well.
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…..interesting response
No. 661289
>>661235Looks like she's unconscious in this pic. Her hand looks limp.
Wouldn't be surprised if he used this as a photo-op to try to convince us that she's 'given up' on leaving him & is staying…
No. 661291
>>661289she doesn't look unconscious. there is plenty of real drama without making it up.
>>661283it's about Chelsea, it's old, but it's a great example of how he just spiels out the same manipulative shit over and over with no real change to who he actually is.
No. 661293
>>661282Bet she'll wake up tommorow and say "its fine it'll get better" like shes done a hundred times before. It'll never change unless she really wants it.
The whole house thing was a hail Mary for their relationship, Like when couples try to have kids to stay together.
The cycle is just repeating with jonny. He just gets bored of being clean so he relapses.
No. 661296
>>661287Timeline was more like this imo
>sheltered, rebellious teen life with emotional issues.>naive animal petuber with good and bad qualities.>jonny attention>Gets trashy to impress jonny>jonny introduces her to heroin>Gets trashier, lazier, tats, more animalsNot saying she didn't have some bad qualities before but jonny made her much worse and inauthentic IMO. It's obvious she isn't happy with herself, hopefully she'll change.
No. 661297
>>661287For the sake of her animals I do hope she leaves him and betters herself, but this. Why does she expect all corners of the internet to be patting her ass when she’s on H, dating a rapist, and has animals dying. Ffs this is #MeToo #Cancelled culture we live in, how she still has her career is beyond me. She needs to save it while she still can. Dump the manlet, get sober, take care of animals better, and we would literally have nothing to talk about. Or just tweet out “I’m fine!! We’re fine!! The animals are fine! I’m getting healthier everyday life is great uwu” and be a cow forever, Tay, your call.
>>661293After the “no one knows what i go through i can’t hold it back anymore boys suck” twitter storm and throwing Chelsea under the bus, I agree. This is 100% their cycle like you said, and the nature of
abusive relationships in a nutshell.
No. 661302
>>661287to me it's pretty clear that all the insane online behavior is an effect of her mental state, and not really a reflection of her personality.
it's hard to display your true personality when you are in a really fucked up relationship, doing heavy drugs, and trying desperately to pretend everything is fine.
kinda hate that i'm whiteknighting, but I feel like if she wins this battle, and dumps his ass, all the other things will drastically improve, and the war will be over.
it'll be a little boring with no milk, but we will move on to new pastures.
No. 661305
>>661302waaaaays off anon.
at least people here keep her honest, even if we are hardasses. She's got some deep underlying issues that make her unsuitable to taking care of so many pets. She's got to seriously downsize if she's ever gonna get better. All the animals are just a coping mechanism to deal with her empty life rn.
No. 661306
>>661302I agree.
This is the kid of cow I
want to set free.
No. 661308
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Taylor, do you recognise this cycle? If you do, you need to escape it.
Other common things is using Pets, or Family as leverage and threats.
Honestly, Taylor's more popular currently than Jonny is, if she leaves and he tries to defame her, how many people are going to believe a decade long heroin addict with a history of abuse and rape toward women? Plus I'm sure Taylor has tonnes of receipts of him being a downright cunt to her in messages and other things. People will forget Jonny, Taylor could easily make a redemption and throw it back in his face.
You can do it Taylor, your momma's crazy but she clearly loves you, go to her, get Betsy's help, make a plan and go.
No. 661311
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>>661235Looks like she
was asleep
No. 661318
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>>661316Because he's playing video games…
No. 661327
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>>660923
>"I just don’t want to be involved in the drama."Meanwhile, the next fuckin day…
No. 661335
>>661327Why in the fuck does she involve herself in drama that literally has NOTHING to do with her?
It’s bad enough she falsely calls out people because she’s “sticking up for thuh animulz!!”, but now interjecting herself into the beauty community drama?
Holy hell girl stop being a hypocrite and get a damn life. Don’t say one day you don’t want to be involved in drama one day, then the very next day stick your nose into it again. Jesus
Then again, I guess she can’t really get a life with her Manlet controlling her 24/7. Ever notice how she’s always going on about how much she wishes she had girl friends, and how lonely she is and wants to make new friends? Yeah… if you kick Jonny out Taylor, you can be your own person again. You can get the help you need and form a real support system of friends and people who care about you.
But if you keep being a drama chasing dumbass, nobody is going to like you for a gross attitude like this. Please for the love of god just listen to the people trying to help you stop getting into trouble.
No. 661338
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>>661327This is getting eerily similar to her own situation…
No. 661344
>>661338I’m guessing that’s why she’s involving herself and talking about it. It’s eventually going to become the
victim mentality topic of “poor me, I started doing heroin at 19 but just let me grow people!!”
Stop making it about yourself ffs Taylor. Stop focusing on other people’s problems. Focus on your own shitty,
toxic relationship with Jonny, huh?
I’m assuming she does this to try to forget her own life by getting consumed in other’s. She wants to forget how miserable she is with Jonny.
No. 661345
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There it is. Making the current drama that has nothing to do with her about herself.
No. 661346
>>661345You CAN change Taylor. There's just
someone that's not only holding you back, but keeping you down…
No. 661347
>>661344Ya most people that try to fix other peoples problems mimic what they want done to themselves. She tried to fix jonny because deep down she wants someone to fix her.
She wants some whiteknight to come in and magically fix her problems. In reality that rarely happens, you gotta fix yourself or find a therapist, a REAL therapist that will help you find solutions. lotta shitty ones that will just take your money and not say it like it is.
No. 661350
>>661173well anon there are a few sides to this obviously, yeah probably in normal circumstances we wouldn't be going off about her rent prices. i think when we bring these things up though its pretty regularly in context to "oh if she can pay this much a month she can buy a new cage for her rats" or "she can upgrade the care for these pets." it isn't all about just ripping taylor a new one
but also, part of her problem at this point IS her posting herself in these conditions. she shouldnt be taking ratty pictures in the bathrooms of rehab, jonny shouldnt be posting about how hes late on paying rent, they shouldnt be taking pictures all over their neighborhood/house aside from animal relevant things. shes an animal youtuber. she doesnt need to be personal if she actually wants privacy. that's not our faults, and i dont think saying
>anything and everything she does is going to be criticized to the core and she knows that. Would you post yourself in those conditions?is some sort of legitimate defense or food for thought statement. she doesn't need to post "everything." she just needs to post whats relevant to why people follow her; her animals. she puts herself up for the criticism otherwise
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No. 661364
She definitely is relating her situation to James and is feeling hopeless that she can never be forgiven. Her problem is she doesn't understand to be forgiven people need to put the work in to prove they are actively trying to change and then be that change. That's when sympathy and forgiveness is given. The other thing is I actually think she fails to see her situations is (I'd argue) more easy to come back from as she has been in an abusive relationship. James is more like Jonny in that's he tried to use his power to maniulpulate others and took advantage of their kindness. Taylor is not innocent like Tati, but she does have the mentality of wanting to help someone that Tati had towards James for so long.
The thing about Taylor is she is still young and hasn't learned about boundaries and that actions speak louder than words. Wanting to see the best in people is a lively trait, but maturity gives insight that its trait you need to give boundaries to for the sake of yourself an others. She keeps going back to Jonny for this reason, listening to his words, seeing small changes that never last but she sees as proof and sticking with him. He hasn't shown any meaningful long term change, and he hasn't shown to care about her beyond the idea of her and what she can give him. I bet if she said "I'm moving back with my mom to work on myself for the betterment of me and as a result us. We can stay together as partners but not live together and I won't pay for x, y and z anymore until I'm healed and then a bit longer to be certain" he would not respond well. He would not let that happen. If he cared he would let it happen, but I don't think he'd let that happen.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is a pattern in Taylor life, and probably why she finds it so hard to have meaningful friends as she wants to see the best in them but they end up only using her when it's convinient. Not saying she is innocent or perfect. She really needs to look inward and make changes in how she treats other also as well as getting some self respect. Only then can she form meaningful connections with people.
The thing is, she has made some dumb choices and has acted not great for a whole now. Likely the result of her upbringing and personality. Still, she made those choices and needs to fully own up to them and consider why she made them beyond empty phrases like 'I have an addictive personality!'
She is still young and, if she truly wants, she still can truly change. But change is hard and dirty. It isn't pretty and involves accepting and owning up to your past mistakes and really working to be the change you want to see. I'd have so much respect for her if she left Jonny, worked on herself privately for a bit and then came out with a video admitting her mistakes, explaining how abuse (emotional and/or physical) impacted her even worse, apologising to those she belittled, exploring the addiction stuff, explaining what's gone on with her animals and then spring boarding in how she wants to change, the steps she taken and steps she plans to take. If Jonny releases dirt. Fine. She can note how that's a typical action of an abuser, however in reality it's dirt she knows she needs to admit to in order to change and wants to address, apologise for what she did. Jonny releases nudes? Not sure on the laws there, but maybe sue. Make a discussion how she didn't consent for those nudes to be released and how he is a shit person for doing so, however when she was in her relationship she wanted to have a healthy sexuality and wasn't ashamed of her body. But the releasing of those nudes goes to show what a twisted man he is and how he tried to hold power and manipulate her sexuality too.
I've really gone off on one here. But that's the sort of video she could produce to be a true role model. But she has to mean it and actually take those actions. I'd have respect for her if she did that. But she needs to mature and tkae the path towards betterment if that's ever to be a reality. Right now she is at the cross roads and I worry she wants to take the path into 'maturing' into being a shittier person just to excuse her past actions while putting up a false face that no one connects to.
No. 661365
>>661302That's incorrect; she has been known to be a miserable, bullying cunt since she first became popular, even if you omit what her peers from school said about her.
She has always been a lying narcissist who manipulates media as much as possible to make herself look like an angel.
>>661364OT but Tati isn't innocent, from enabling and ignoring James until it came at her, and hawking her fucking pseudoscientific "pills."
No. 661370
>>>/pt/661365 yes OT which is why I didn't go into details about the level of innocence. But compared to Taylors' recent actions (drugs, animals neglect, luaghting at
victims), I definitely I'd say Tati is more innocent (treating innocence as a grey topic rather than bwlc and white). Any again the enabling is the parrallel I'm trying to draw. The difference was Tati decided to put a stop to it, maybe she should have done it sooner, but she had a boundary and said enough enough. Taylor on the other hand has made excuses for Jonny over and over when much more serious stuff has been happening with him (drugs, rape, abuse etc). She needs to draw a line. Even if until now she has let it slide (which is bad) so she can change and maybe give him the push to change (though I doubt he will).
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Whoosh
No. 661372
>>661345"please don't ever hold an unsub party for me guys!! I need the money"
she's really transparent, stop falling for her shit.
No. 661374
>>661371she keeps bringing up this kind of drama and i saw someone tweeting at her that the attention should be brought to e-celebs like lia marie johnson instead and tbh? she cries so much about mental health visibility and she could very well be using her twitter for that. but no, she's still choosing to talk about fucking beauty guru drama.
mental health is only important if it's about her.
No. 661375
>>661373I hope she does, and who knows, she might. She likely will eventually, Jonny can't sustain any relationship over time. But no-one should take these 'hint' posts seriously. She makes them for casual hits of attention. A breakup will look different to this.
She sees herself in James and knows her YT career can go bad too, so she feels sorry for herself already.
My bet on 'major changes' is it'll involve something materialistic, it always does with her.
No. 661376
>>661371Jenna marbles didn't cook Marbles or the iggies alive, nod out for 12-22 hours, then try to replace them under the radar. Or give them strange "viking funerals" while laughing.
Hell they went above and beyond what Ad needed and I learned more about hamsters than I thought. Then, as opposed to buying/getting another, they kept their pack as is until they were ready for Bunny. Something reasonable and responsible pet owners normally consider.
Sorry for derail.
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No. 661383
>>661379Please sneak in "Jonny repellent" somewhere in that sleeve gurl.
That's your biggest mistake.
No. 661392
>>661390Jonny:
accuses another singer of drug abuse Taylor: I'm gonna tell you how wrong that is…soon as I finish making accusations, of stealing charity money, against another pettuber.
No. 661393
>>661327>>661338Oh gee wonder why is it she "put up" with someone she considered her protegé. Total mystery.
It wasn't a mistake, Taylor. James got told
several times to knock it off and didn't, pretty much like you've been told SEVERAL times to change your attitude and stop defending your rapist boyfriend yet you don't. You can only go so far with the "I'm So YoUnG" excuse until it gets tiresome.
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No. 661433
>>661384>>661429or why she said "meet me at my hotel" but then had to take an Uber to meet her fans there since (even though she was "sick" all day, she wasn't in bed,) she was at her
friend "boyfriend's friend's house" several miles away. too sick to make an appearance for your fans who have paid to see you, but not too sick to travel to a stranger's house right before you hold a make-up unauthorized meet&greet? did getting to that stranger's house have anything to do with getting some drugs to cure yourself of dope sickness?
No. 661464
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I think and hope she is actually trying to get him out.
No. 661467
>>661423so in texas, a tar state, our beloved pure princess taylor only ever shot the purest of the pure because that dirty icky tar was just too yucky for her? never smoked it? not even once?
just sayin', this bitch wouldn't know the truth if it punched her in the face.
No. 661468
>>661360Hopefully by “major life changes” you mean getting Jonny out of your life.
Because in that case, there would be almost no backlash for her leaving him? She got nothing but support from people when she first “broke up” with him on Twitter, and everyone here would be supportive of her leaving him.
This would be a huge step in the right direction. She has a long way to go but it’s the first thing that needs to be done in order for her to get better.
No. 661469
>>661468you're right everyone would cheer her if she actually did leave him once and for all. I'm surprised other anons honestly think she's leaving him this time. we've seen it before. I'll believe it when it happens and STICKS.
The reason people would be upset with her after the break up would be if Jonny has some serious dirt on her wrt her animal care. I'm not sure if he has the brainpower to screenshot, organize, and distribute any receipts in a meaningful context though.
No. 661482
>>661469>I'm surprised other anons honestly think she's leaving him this time. we've seen it before. I'll believe it when it happens and STICKS.It takes multiple gos to leave an
abusive relationship. That's statistics and facts. Very, very few people make a clean break the first time and have it stick.
No. 661486
>>661482that's what I'm saying. people out here like "omg good for her for leaving him" when it's like, we've already seen her publicly denounce him once on Twitter, and God knows how many times she's screamed at him to get out behind closed doors. People thinking she's really taking steps to leave him just because she took his name out of her Twitter bio seem to be naive about
abusive relationships. he's already lovebombing her. we haven't seen anything that shows this isn't just the cycle repeating itself.
No. 661518
>>661514I agree that she has waaay more issues than just Jonny, and she has proved herself to be a shit human being many times. However I do believe that shitiness increased tenfold because of him. If it weren't for him coming into her life I guarantee she wouldn't have hit this bad of a low. Sure she'd still lie and miscare for her animals, but I can't see her getting to this bad of an extent if he wasn't in the picture.
She can never truly redeem herself in my eyes after all she's done, but while I don't necessarily support her, I support her decision to leave Jonny if she has the courage to do it. I think she can never be really forgiven for her past heinous mistakes, but I think she can turn her life around if she actually boots him to the curb and rehomes her animals and starts getting mental help.
No. 661533
>>661518>If it weren't for him coming into her life I guarantee she wouldn't have hit this bad of a lowStop. Unless you're Taylor herself, which I highly doubt, you can't 'guarantee' shit about her personality or what kind of person she is. Not even Jen can.
Why are you so sure that deep down, she's just a lovable girl who was led astray by that evil junkie? Fucking stans, lol.
No. 661534
>>661533Lol what? They aren’t saying she’d be an absolute angel without Jonny. I agree with them - she’s a shitty person but Jonny brought out the absolute worst of it. Without Jonny, she’d still be an awful person but she probably wouldn’t have the death toll she has now or hit rock bottom with being the Patron Saint of heroin addiction. You do realize there’s varying tiers of shittiness, right? And that being with an
abusive retard tends to magnify whatever shittiness is already there?
No. 661536
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lol
No. 661542
>>661536ummm bitch please.
You fed live rats to your monitor and just "rescue" the cute baby feeders. How are you any different than Dr. Phil, you just want them as accessorys and because they looked helpless and it satisfied your savior complex to "rescue" them.
He just wanted a pet with a nice temperament, its not like he killed it. Hamsters blow as pets anyway, If they still don't like it they'll probably return it. Better than dead or neglected.
Second, her care is shit. piss rags, bare wire, small cage, no free time.
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>>661536>I CARE FOR MY RATS PERFECTLYwhatever, she is useless
No. 661554
>>661533>>661534Yeah lol I'm not really sure what this anon read. Never said that she'd be some lovable angel without Jonny.
I said she's already proved herself a shitty person
without Jonny around, but I believe being with Jonny just magnified what she already was. Being against Jonny does not = being for Taylor lmao
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I know these are song lyrics but here we go. Jonny being a manipulative man-baby as always
No. 661588
>>661536LMAO GIRL. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING is perfect about your rat care. Saying she learned from the mistakes of her mouse… she realizes they are completely different animals, right? Rats aren't just big mice. Yes there are lots of similarities between the two but in my experience rats require more work especially with daily interaction. Her cage is mediocre. The food she feeds (based off that giant bowl of veges, rat food and mealworms) is NOT suitable for their daily food. She straight up says in that video she doesn't think a balanced and complete lab block isn't enough so she supplements with veges and mealworms. Mealworms are very high in protein and should only be given as a treat. Veges and fruits are fine in moderation and be given daily but not in the amount she was giving.
She has provided absolutely NO proof of a safe and secure play area for them. She has an entire house yet can't section an area off and give her rats enrichment outside of their cage.
Taylor, you're delusional. Your rat care is far from perfect and your mouse care was absolutely horrendous as well. Don't go saying that shit on Twitter so all your fans can follow your example as rats deserve better than the miserable life you're giving them.
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Here she’s saying 30 minutes is the minimum time out for rats.
No. 661618
>>661603>I got them in a nontraditional way that I don't recommend people doingthat literally describes all of her pets. whether it's "a stranger handed them to me in a pet store",
purchased off Craigslist too early for baby animal "adopted at Petco at 5.5 weeks old somehow", wild caught, baited a stray into her tiny cramped apartment, impulse bought at an expo, impulse bought while high, being "gifted" from her boyfriend… all bad examples, and it covers at least 80% of her animals
No. 661636
>>661469even if Jonny does have receipts, Taylor could say she left him to get her life together for herself and her animals and whatever Jonny leaked will never happen again. It would definitely appease her stans, and if she actually stuck to it might appease most of us ex-fans on here, too. It would make things better than what she's doing now, certainly.
>>661578 he's way too selfish to kill himself and even if he did it wouldn't be your fault, get OUT Taylor!
No. 661639
>>661603"shouldn't have many issues with them biting"
UM… a well bred rat doesn't bite at all lol
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Does anyone truly fucking care that he’s not streaming? It’s not like he has a huge following.
No. 661676
Dear Taylor,
If the reason you “can’t” leave Jonny is because he’s holding receipts over you about your mistakes, etc., then why not beat him to it? Publish a video telling everyone that you broke up with Jonny to better your health and to get out of a toxic place, and tell them the reason why you waited so long is because he threatened to expose you all over the Internet. And then admit whatever mistakes you’ve made YOURSELF. No lies, no excuses. Out yourself, COMPLETELY. Then he has absolutely no power over you. If he leaks your nudes, that’s awful, but it’s also definitely revenge porn and he could undoubtedly get sued for that.
Will there be backlash? Absolutely. Your fans will be hurt that you lied to them and then lied some more. B U T, it would be so much worse to hear your mistakes from someone else before they heard it from you. Because if/when Jonny shares those screenshots or whatever receipts he has, all eyes will be on you and you’ll just seem like you’re a dirty liar trying to cover her ass, instead of someone who is sincerely trying to get better.
People will notice when you actually get better, if that’s what you choose to do. Take some accountability and responsibility, and take your life back. It’s time to live up to the tattoo, Taylor. By yourself.
No. 661684
>>661676She's too
toxic herself to admit to any mistakes.
No. 661695
>>661676>>661684Sadly I agree she's too
toxic and manipulative herself to do this, but it would be ideal. This is only if he has actual, reliable receipts. If he doesn't and he tries to just talk shit on her, no one will believe him since he is even worse and more manipulative than she is.
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No. 661699
>>661698True.
…And there is the chance he's just doing this because she did & he's trying to be petty towards her.
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(Sighs)
No. 661714
>>661708Agreed. If you feel any sympathy for Taylor, you should want to see if she can get her life back on track after leaving Jonny. If you have no sympathy for her, you should still want her to break up with him because that break up could be a lot of great milk.
>>661705 "maybe when I'm taking a picture for instagram" why don't you just take pictures while your rats are safely having playtime, Taylor?? Also we don't have proof that she doesn't take her rats out, but we also have zero evidence that she DOES. Post frequent pictures and stories of your rats getting enrichment, Taylor! Or even just evidence you have a safe place for them to play with things like toys or whatever you have for enrichment!
No. 661715
>>661708Likely she reads here? lol it’s SO beyond obvious both Jonny and Taylor lurk here 24/7.
>>661714Exactly… there are Pettubers who when they aren’t working on videos, they post frequent stories of the daily care they do for their animals. If you supposedly spend hours a day caring for them, why don’t you show them? Instead she spends hours and hours every day calling out people, getting into drama, and defending herself on Twitter. Soooo I see more proof that you spend all your time stirring up drama online, rather than caring for your animals. If you have all that time to be on your phone, then use it show you actually take care of your animals for hours a day like you claim. For fuck’s same it’s not hard.
It’s just like when she said “ok fine to prove the haters wrong I’ll livestream all my animals conditions!!” … and then never did. Which made her completely guilty that she couldn’t even show her supposedly “healthy and perfectly cared for” animal’s conditions. She’s such an idiot and this is why she’ll never get her life on track at this rate.
No. 661719
>>661715She really should show them. She shows more random shopping hauls than she does stuff she does for her animals. Snapping a quick photo or video while you're doing routine animal care really doesn't add much time or energy to it, and at least proves the animals are alive.
Before Solid Gold went on hiatus she would post feeding her reptiles and amphibians almost every day. I don't think Taylor has ever posted something routine like that on insta, definitely not regularly. Heck I'm not even a pettuber and I still post at least one of my animals just about daily despite my real life outside taking care of pets taking up my time, what's her excuse?
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Shouldn’t she know better than this by now? They get stressed by big open spaces, not big spaces in general. I guess she’s still going to defend keeping her snakes in tiny enclosures.
No. 661722
>>661705 The only time I recall seeing the rats out of their cages is when she had them out for a few seconds for a video (just being held, not playing), and jonnys ig story where he had one of them on the bed… With the cat.
Why is it so hard to show them playing outside of their cage if it's such a common occurance?
No. 661726
>>661722Exactly, she’s only shown them when she’s feeding them treats in their cage or when she’s holding them in bed. I honestly don’t think she’s EVER shown the rats completely out and free, just playing outside their cage.
She gets so offended nobody believes her when she says she gives them an hour of playtime per day, and yet… has never shown a drop of evidence she does it?
Inb4 she once again show she’s an obvious lurker and starts showing them playing on IG for a few days, or goes on a rant about how she “doEsnT nEEd tO sHoW eVeRyThiNg” she does in her life.
Sorry but you make a living off your animals… people have a right to know and have proof you actually care for them like you say you do.
No. 661728
>>661723That wasn't implied? Anyway reasoning doesn't have to be black or white, multiple factors can influence a decision. Likely Jonny did something, but Taylor reads here and again returning to the theme of that post if she reads what she perceives as blind hate it won't have any impact. Maybe even give Jonny fuel, who knows. But having the odd post that is just supportive in nature may get through and give her confidence in her decision. It's hard to say, but it doesn't hurt to have the odd supportive post.
In the end people will post what they post. Some people have more sympathy for the situation, others feel she deserves none at this point. But it doesn't make the former a stan and there is no point getting mad about the odd supportive post. You can disagree, but painting those posters as instantly a stan when they may also have critiques is stupid and pointless and takes away from the actual milk. On that note, this whole discussion is getting stupid and pointless at this point. So can the thread return to the actual milk now?
No. 661730
>>661704Wow, you're right, I hope she gets abused and dies of an overdose /s
We aren't monsters. Just because we don't like her animal care doesn't mean we want her to keep getting abused and show her young audience it's okay to be with someone like Johnny. JFC, ever heard of empathy?
No. 661733
>>661676100% agree on this.
If she is somewhat smart or smarter than him, she will do this. Hope she listens.
No. 661734
>>661730Also, we're not a hive mind. Even if most people here find her
problematic, we of course have varying opinions of her and therefore the conversation tone is bound to change a little bit, especially when something happens to give people hope she's changing for the better.
No. 661743
>>661742Taylor never was particularly awesome with her animal care, but Jonny coming into the picture blew everything the fuck up. He exacerbated her "I know best" hubris, got her on H, isolated her from her friends and family… his presence in her life is a big, big contributing factor towards her self-destructive shit and impulse-buying animals. If there's a chance he might be out of the picture, it'd be good news those of us who really do want to see her get better or at the very least do better by her pets.
It's time to fucking REHOME JONNY.
No. 661749
>>661746It's just anons taking the moral high ground, man. they need to justify participating in a drama thread with "but I care about her deeply uwu".
I'm personally here only to witness the shitshow. whatever happens happens, there's really no way anyone here could or should try change her ways.
No. 661753
>>661746She was weird to begin with, tolerable to an extent cause she just posted dumb animal videos. There was always this underlying issue with entitlement, normal middle class white girl shitshow stuff.
Given how her behaviour has just, gone off the fucking rails since first starting to see him and what she's done lately, her sob story will be all kinds of wrong.
She will be a
victim in a sense but she's still guilty for bashing on his previous
victims, lying about her and jonny being clean and so on.
>>661748I would not be surprised of this in the slightest, might be worthwhile to bring up old posts of her saying smoking weed around the satanics didn't hurt them and everything that was Twisty.
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Taylor is communicating with her ex. Jonny must be livid
No. 661789
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No. 661794
>>661789Jesus fuck can she PLEASE stop with this look on her face? Her lips looks so awful.. I truly don't understand how she can blankly stare at a camera, looking devoid of all life with her huge lips pouted out and say "yup that looks cute"
Judging by a lot of her much older pics, she REALLY wanted to be the hot animal mom of IG, she could have pursued modeling with animals if she really wanted rather than hoarding them all.
But Jesus.. she has fucked up her looks to the point of no return with drugs. The hair, the dead look in the eyes, the overly botched lips. She looks haggard and way older than she really is. I know this gets said all the time but she used to be so pretty. She just looks so miserable 24/7.
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>>661789Higher res from Twitter.
No. 661813
>>661810100% they're track marks. Her twitter is evidence that she's been shooting up again. It's clear during her rants she's been high af.
Speculation here, but I bet the drama with her and Jonny has been her blaming him for them both relapsing. She did say before if they couldn't stay sober together they'd split… and I kind of almost believe her on that one. I don't think being a druggy has lived up to everything she thought it might be for her.
No. 661827
>>661813Honestly just them saying they've been feeling unwell is enough proof for me that they're using right now.
Interesting that they're using at a time that they're going through a rough patch in their relationship though, I always assumed they would be getting along if they're using together. I guess they could be doing it separately. I always had a weird feeling using together made them feel connected or something. Yuck
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She posted this on April 24th. Were the pics she posted today taken at the same time?
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Even Taylor's fans want Jonny gone lmao
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Insert eye roll here.
No. 661884
>>661858She’s seriously admitting to shooting up a couple of weeks ago when she was pretending to be clean.
Also the casual manner in which she brings up “using” is disturbing.
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jonny says he hasnt eaten in 2 days, which is coincidentially when things seem to have started going down (taylor posting she wants to move back in with her parents, jonny crying on twitter and IG, not streaming, etc)
No. 661893
>>661892…Seems to be the
one thing he still cares about now.
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Definitely about Jonny.
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Ha, I’ll believe this when it sticks
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How long until he proposes to her as a last ditch 'ill change' effort
No. 661917
>>661914See
>>661885He says he's been 'sick' & 'hasn't eaten', meaning he's probably going through withdrawals (Loss of appetite, Restlessness, Nausea, Aches & pains, etc.)
I reckon he's trying to detox as a last-ditch effort to 'win' Taylor back after 'slipping up' again for the millionth time & she's just about had it.
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No. 661924
>>661917yup, this whole sickness thing is all fake AF. They clearly arn't on good terms with each other, all this emo teenage drama confirms it. he'll keep promising to change but we all know he has no discipline or self control.
Somebody relapsed, probably jonny and he's throwing a manchild fit. Lack of sleep and appetite loss if def a sign of using. The dude is slowly dying, she needs to kick his ass to the curb. Throw him in inpatient at least and don't let him back in. Probably the reason she wants to move again, because he knows where she lives if she kicks him out.
No. 661927
>>661920> I want the experienceeveryone told you so…
>>661926wonder if she could pull some strings with the landlord. They probably want them out anyway.
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Isn’t that the atrium behind him? I doubt he’s moved out
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How many variations of this same tired tweet is she gonna post? Anytime there’s controversy on twitter she hops in with a snake pic acting like she’s above all of it (even if she JUST engaged in it like she just did w the abortion tweets and like she did with James last week) with a “cute” snake pic. It’s clear she’s hoping it’ll go viral bc it’s the SAME SHIT every single time like girl… please be quiet. Lmao pointless rant but she does this every single week
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No. 661963
>>661959All of them.
She should do a video of her reptile room, it's not like they're all in wildly different parts of the house and she can only get to one.
No. 661964
>>661959cheese! gus! larry! ursula! zazu!
oh wait
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>>661874she just commented on her newest Instagram post to say her lips are almost back to normal hmm
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>>661964So I just found this post by New England aquarium and they’ve had their baby cowfish for 3-4 years now. When she says she kept a cowfish alive in captivity longer than anyone else … it also looks like it’s grown quite a bit
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No. 661985
>>661975less than 30 viewers.
what a joke
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No. 662005
>>662001> "isn't working"Yeah right. Some shady shit going down at Dean house. How come it wasn't working during your shopping hauls? Somebody doesn't want somebody accessing her accounts. Hopefully she's waking up that johnny is only there for the money.
If you share a bank account with a significant other how does that hold up in court if you split? Gotta siphon the funds before he gets booted.
No. 662033
>>661899>>661901>>661915It's funny how she just magically gets diseases and syndromes she sees mentioned online/by mommy, and then just happens to have them too!
She's just a narcissist trying to make everything about her. If she had PCOS then she or her doctor or mother or even female friends would have noticed some abnormalities/symptoms by now. It's not like you just wake up one day "WOW I HAVE PCOS."
Gotta love how she makes everything, including other people's illnesses, all about HEEEEEEEEER.
No. 662036
>>661885>haven't really eatenthis means he's just been eating potato chips and candy for two days because Taylor refuses to buy him fast food or another hot meal. he's still eating, just not being spoiled so it's not the same to him.
>>662017her "by myself" tattoo gets more and more ironic every day.