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22 year old "family friendly pet mom" Youtuber, her 32 year old junkie boyfriend Jonny Craig, and her creepy controlling mother.
Previous thread: >>>/pt/664264
The basics:> Taylor is a notorious animal hoarder known for collecting 40+ rare and exotic pets and manhandling/mistreating them for the sake of her Youtube channel which has over 1 million subscribers. Many pets have died in her care, many more have fallen ill due to her neglect or disappeared after "rehoming" them. Fails to give proper enclosures for many of her pets, including overstuffing fish tanks, keeping her kittens locked in the bathroom, and her mouse and hedgehog in the closet.> Jonny Craig was the frontman of the band Slaves and is most well-known for being an outspoken abusive junkie. He has been in and out of rehab centers for a decade now and has been kicked out of multiple bands and off of tours for his behavior. He is usually homeless when he does not have a girlfriend to leech off of.> Several of Jonny's ex-girlfriends have come out with stories of Jonny's physical and sexual abuse, including rape at knife-point. His ex Chelsea confided this in Taylor when she and Jonny first started dating, in which Taylor's response was to laugh with Jonny and make a public spectacle of it.> Taylor loves to throw pity parties for herself and dodge around the real issues when faced with criticism about her husbandry, hoarding, and hypocrisy. She can never keep her stories straight and will tell outright lies only to contradict them hours later. Her fans are sycophants who only encourage her.
(currently deactivated as of 2/14/19)
Facebook (private:) https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.Nicole.Dean
List of all Taylor's pets:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QNUksDcQk_cqLTkTFTiPjP2pCGBQgORyCesIIqvZ2Zs/edit?pli=1
Stats of Taylor’s pets and history:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8bakM4GHa2J1y4qwYsB-T0jSpN5uWCI_q0dv-odij4/htmlview#
New Milk:> Colin from Slaves posted on here about his experiences with Jonny. His posts start at >>>/pt/637869> Cannot keep story straight on rehab, has stopped posting about it> Posted an Instagram story with needles visible in the background> Continues to make stories on Instagram where track marks can be seen on her arms > Several animals that have been MIA were posted on Instagram after being mentioned on here. This includes several snakes, Ella, Mushu, Star, and Kronos> Atrium has been shown several times with absolutely filthy water which the animals have been swimming in, from moving in at the beginning of April, by mid May the water has only gotten worse, and is shown often with animals playing in the water> Claims she is totally sober from drugs but alcohol doesn’t count and her rehab coaches are completely fine with her using alcohol > Released a video on how she moved Mushu to the new house, with an insane amount of misinformation, demonstrating her complete lack of knowledge about the nitrogen cycle, but at least FINALLY has a chiller for her tank> Started going off about Dr. Phil’s poor hamster husbandry, even though she kept her hamster in a tiny critter trail cage for its entire life> Left her rats on bare bars in their cage for weeks, then threw some fleece over the bars as if it actually protected their feet> When the bare bars in the rat cagewere initially pointed out at the beginning of April, she promised it was only for a couple of days until the new cage came in, by the end of the first week of May the floors had some fleece down, but the ramps were still bare wire, no new cage> “Found” a dog, broadcasted a sob story about the dog being beaten in a parking lot, and made a public spectacle of rehoming the dog> Failed to see how it shows how she behaves when she actually rehomes an animal vs when she only claims she did> When twitter users corrected her care regarding her rats she claims that she is “still learning!” And “always doing more research!” Even with the most basis husbandry> Fans have noticed that other pettubers, particularly Tyler Rugge have not had much contact with TND, and Tyler brushed it off and attempted to distance himself from her ‘officially’ by saying he doesn’t talk to her and he wishes the best for her but ‘that’s really all there is’ then was still bantering with her back and forth on twitter> Jonny posted screencaps indicating that he’s already been late paying rent, and they’ve only lived there a month> Taylor has been posting increasingly more emo lyrics and vague comments about her relationship, liking tweets about abuse, calling Jonny a dumbass and Jonny has been love bombing her
> Recent Known additions to the horde of animals: Tarantula, frog> Recent Known Deaths: Moon crab (Ursula), > Recent Known “Rehomed”: Satanic Leaf geckos, all fishtanks not including the 150 gal, other moon crab (Triton)
Videos which sum up the drug addiction situation: https://youtu.be/IczGyFh0LBghttps://youtu.be/9tblAt5NX9w
Old Milk:> Claims to be attending an outpatient rehab program, where they receive Vitriol injections> Jonny was kicked from the Slaves for incessant drug use http://archive.is/JO9vO> Taylor admitted to using heroin, this was corroborated by texts from Jonny http://archive.is/4GnJG http://archive.is/6sYGI> Mushu has been shown without much gill feathering left recently shown much more clearly with facial scarring, even less feathering and stressed posturing stated that she will be updating mushu’s condition in a video, we will see if that happens> More enclosures being shown with completely empty water dishes more empty and scummy water dishes shown in the new house as well> Has been bouncing deactivations on her twitter and instagram during the controversy around Cheese and her herion use> Released a video on April 13th (2 months after she said she would return to youtube), slurring words in some clips, and showed alcohol in the kitchen and bedroom of the new house> Cheese’s necropsy results were inconclusive (obviously)
Unconfirmed Milk:> Still using herion despite claiming to be clean now> Valentino was not returned to the breeder and is dead> Her and Jonny were evicted from the apartment
All Previous Threads:
General Pettuber Thread:>>>/snow/730730
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While the “abortion theory” is incredibly stupid, I think it’s important to throw this in here so we can throw the theory away entirely. While Taylor isn’t truthful a good majority of the time, we all know she would be milking and oversharing it in the event that she was. And Johnny.
I'm not sure why people think it's odd for JC not to be with Taylor while she's in hospital. Like someone last thread said "no stable partner would do that" implying that Jonny is somehow a stable partner lmao
Like it's obvious they don't give a shit about each other. Their relationship is based off of how much clout they can get online, JC to pat Taylor's ass and give her attention and so JC can leech off her. Oh and drugs.
Pro tip: you don't go to the ER for an abortion.
Stop the abortion sperging, people.
I should have emphasized I mentioned "no stable partner would do that" in case Taylor was reading and in case she didn't kick him out.
I don't think he's stable at all, but obviously Taylor does. He's a piece of shit, and proves to be an even bigger one because he's asking people to hang out with him while Taylor is in the ER.
I honestly think he was kicked out because he asked online to leech a ride, so that means this was last minute. He also hasn't mentioned her in the ER AT ALL, which leads me to feel he's guilty of something. Why wouldn't he try to milk sympathy? "OH my poor dad needs help and poor Taylor is in the ER, I am so stressed."
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I don't think we can trust his story here, the way it's worded sounds odd. Almost as if he was booted out with his pc and they're using a family emergency to keep it under wraps. Seems like it was somewhat planned (is jonny asking for a roadtrip connected to this?) but then it become urgent for some reason (jonny cancelled his stream he was hyping 2-3hrs before that). Did taylor come home from the hospital/whereever she was with some reinforcement?
It's hard to believe we're getting the whole story here. It's also hard to believe they are actually breaking up….
Do any of the girls he seems to be talking to live in NY as far as we can guess?
If not, I don't see it being likely that they're splitting.
I don't know much about Johnny by himself but he sure as hell doesn't sound like someone who's close to his family and would drive from Texas to New York to help out a family member. If it was a family emergency why would he even transport a $2000+ gaming computer set up? It's not like taking your laptop in a bag.
I'm really hoping he got run out.
TND wouldn't be the type to tell him to pack his shit either. This may be a covert way of getting him out.
If she did kick him out this would be the way she'd do it, if he's out and she doesn't want him back she'll just not let him back in. She'll wait till he's far away and break up over text or something.
Seems like she's on good terms with mama dean as well. No doubt she's been talking to her hence the drug sperg.
Moving the gaming rig raises some eyebrows…
Sounds kinda like insurance incase he can't come back.
Exactly. He's suddenly driving halfway across the country as soon as his girlfriend goes to hospital, and he makes sure to bring the most expensive thing she bought for him which probably also has lots of incriminating conversations with other women. If it was an emergency, he was leaving quickly, and planning to return after things settled down, why would he need to bring his huge, unwieldy setup? seems to me like he's skipping town and stealing expensive electronics since he's not going back.
Of course, I don't think Taylor will be able to keep him from slithering back into her life once he realizes how much he misses the money. He'll come back and she is known for not being able to stay single. that's why the "by myself" tattoo is so ironic.
so yeah he got booted and stole the computer, Taylor refused to pay his flight to leave, and he doesn't give a shit that she's in the hospital but he's still lovebombing on the off-chance she'll let him back in once she's home. The "I'll always be by her side" is extra funny given that she's in the hospital and he's not by her side.
this, but i doubt that she would leave him, regardless. something went down, she goes to the ER - whether that was for an OD or because he beat her up or otherwise abused her and she felt it was necessary to get somewhere safe (in this case why not go to mom's place?) right now it seems she's had enough, at least temporarily, jonny took off with the only thing he can pawn for more drugs, lovebombing and doing as she says in order to seem like he's in agreement and being reasonable; and taylor is vagueposting like a motherfucker to keep that stan interest high.
i don't think she will leave him unless she already has someone else lined up. taylor strikes me as the kind of person who cannot bear to be alone.
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Let's hope she actually listens to >>666107
& doesn't let him come back.
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She's probably not gonna mention Jonny or anything alluding to him because she knows
he'll go scorched-earth on her ass.
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From this comment it sounds like she might be getting rid of him. What else could she mean by “getting the things I need out of my life” if she really did stop using as she said?
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She like this tweet and honestly I have to laugh. “Brought drugs into her life” she knew exactly what she was signing up for. How many fucking people told her this would happen??? I just can’t find it in me to have pity for her anymore
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'Without Me' makes a comeback in her IG story
Ditching Jonny is only part of the equation here>>666119
She was as bad as this before anyway, nothing will change because those animals are still just money to her and she can easily access drugs herself anyway.
At best, she will move back to her mums house (which seems unlikely because of the cage set up and the volume of animals) so she has some help. At worst, she is alone with some help from her enabling friend who clearly doesn't care about the animals either and nothing really changes.
100%. Its all very "woe is me, I battled drug addiction please pity me and my hard life experiences." She thrives on attention and playing the victim
. That's why it's hard for me to feel that bad for her. She needs to go to therapy and get to the root of the problem bc Jonny ain't it.
She is really reaching here. Sometimes veins are hard to find naturally. It takes a while to blow your veins out from IV drug use. Sometimes they’re just squishy and they roll. Mine roll, a lot. Not an IV drug user.
She is so fucking gross and a victim
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Yup, this confirms it for me. She outed that loser and she's not gonna let him back. I don't know what she told jonny but from what I see their relationship is over.
She's still a POS person but this is an improvement. Her animals have better chances at this point.
Downsizing her house should be next step. Sell some crap off to your fans to fundraise, sign it or some shit. Sell those funkos and crap.
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Lol. She needs to be honest with herself, how can you not regret getting addicted to drugs?
not trying to WK here but i wouldnt say taylor’s the female version of jonny. jonny’s a serial rapist and abuses women physically and emotionally. and he’s gotten nudes from underaged girls. taylor’s animal care might not be up to par, but i certainly wouldn’t say that she’s the female jonny. also, her doing drugs before jonny doesn’t invalidate the fact he abused her. drugs were a decision she made and i hope she won’t put the blame all on jonny for the drug thing (she probably will tho) but if she was a victim
of abuse, it doesnt matter if she was doing coke prior to the relationship. however, i do think she’ll probably leave about the parts where literally ALL OF JONNY’S EXES WARNED HER
ehhh… She's stupid but she's self aware. Deep down she knows he caused this, her choosing him ruined her life.
He doesn't have anything of value to her anymore. He's not in a band or anything and if he isn't giving her clout he's nothing to her. No doubt she'll find another sucker quick but I think they're done.
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The fact that she reads here means that we're obviously right about some things.
She'll decide what to do but I like to think we help somewhat.
Even though TND has made a MOUNTAIN of mistakes, she’s still young and can still make a comeback. If she boots the man baby out of her life for good, and maybe stay single for a while to focus on herself so she doesn’t need sexual validation like she said before she always looked for, then maybe she can regain her following. It’ll take a LOT of work though.
Proper husbandry, no illegal drugs (because antidepressants/anti anxiety meds that are prescribed shouldn’t be shamed if they’re not addictive) actually educational videos to prove she knows shit, and actually leading a clean and happy life, she maayyyy be salvageable. But we’ll see.
Amazing people have come out of the depths of rock bottom and chose to be their better self for good. Now let’s see if she can do the same.
Her future success will always be tainted by JC. The fact that she went out of her way to shame previous victims
really says something about her.
Honestly, I don't think she can recover career wise, not to the same extent. There's also issues with her hoarding animals.
Her well documented drug addiction is also another huge red flag for future fans. At best she'll be a controversial figure rather than a positive one.
Agreed, pretty sure she told him it was temporary so he would just leave. She lied to get him out of the picture, I doubt she has any intention of getting back together.
we're in the bargaining stage of denial rn.
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Given up on trying to save jonny maybe?
Of course, no doubt he's running off to one.
Also as other people predicted in earlier threads, she obviously decided to use this 'abuse' story for some sweet cash.
He made out pretty good. got his teeth fixed and gaming rig to sell for dope.
No shortage of trash looking for trash.
I think Taylor has someone lined up as well, she doesn't seem the sort to go out without a backup plan. If she's smart she'll keep it on the DL this time.
The one major thing they have in common is that they are both habitual liars and victims
. Is it wrong that I hope if she tries to turn into an icon of abuse survival that he spills the beans on her shitty animal care?
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And…. any sympathy we had for you is gone.
Christ she's acts like a victim
all the time. She CHOSE to date JC, she CHOSE to do heroin, she CHOSE to ruin her body with junkfood and cider, she CHOSE to rent an expensive hard-to-maintain house, she CHOSE to take care of kittens with NO EXPERIENCE.
She LITERALLY had EVERYTHING going for her. Young, attractive, well-off, successful, white, rich. The only thing she can take credit for is her failures.
Nobody wants to hear from an addict unless they've been like 20+ years sober. She has absolutely no grounds to council people on their addictions. I'm sick of these trendy, tortured drug addicts. It has nothing to do with helping people get better it's just about attention.
Shes got such a toxic
she got with Jonny Nov 2017 or so? the smoking heroin texts were around Dec 2017 I think. Intravenous use probably was mid 2018
She kept it under wraps A LONG TIME. A solid year of drug abuse with jonny, not limited to heroin. She smoked weed with her satanics, it's extremely likely he introduced her to other stuff as well.
Are any of her fans even following her for her animals at this point? I feel like people just wanna watch the milk unfold.
well, she knew what she was getting into and ridiculed his other victims
and she had enough time to realise it's nothing good. it wasn't surprise with his abusive
personality, it was well known fact about him. plus he looked like garbage. of she is victim
, she is extremely stupid victim
She was willfully ignorant and naive of the facts.
She had the ego to think she could change a long time heroin addict at 20. She wanted the perfect Disney "experience" of turning a loser back into a functioning member of society.
Then she acts all Innocent when it backfired hard with drugs. She knew he was into some nasty shit but she got with him anyway.
IMO She's set such a dangerous example for so many young and impressionable kids it should be criminal.
If she'd come out and spill the beans about how she REALLY got addicted and started with drugs a lot more of us would be sympathetic.
In the end she's paid the price.
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Looks like Jonny's awake…
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HAHAHAHAH. LMFAO. Yeah he's lookin for side, thats why Taylor doesn't wanna talk about it.>>666247
Shes got so much shame and guilt bottled up because she knows she fucked up. She doesn't want the drama because she knows she was in the wrong for soooo long and her ego can't take it.
The only choice i've seen is that she wants to live separated from jonny. He's gonna go cheat that should be obvious for her.
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Yep. This is how it all started…
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Jonny just made an IG story in which he yells "Fuck Tudy!" (His former dealer)
So she dumped him and he's in denial about it, makes sense.
If they were still together he would've taken a flight instead of having to get driven, or at least a bus. Pretty much goes without saying he's broke lmao.>>666257
I wonder if Tudy will say anything about this.
To think this was Taylor. And she knew all about him, laughed at his previous victims
, and thought she was special enough to be “the one to change him” and be untouchable and have the fun rockstar life of touring and partying and getting clout together forever. Look how badly that blew up. The only person “special” to Jonny is whichever vagina hole is giving him money and enabling him at the time. Like you can’t see that from a mile away. But all of her friends and family were being annoying, meddling worrywarts at the time for trying to keep her away from him!
Yup, there it is.
At least she came out and said it.
>Don't be dming him
Yea because it's obvious you told him you'd still try to be together. As soon as he gets a head start she pulls this, surprise, surprise. She probably blocked him from harassing her because she wants him gone.
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Wasn’t EDS awareness the month of May?! Which anon called it that she’d bring it up after the fact? Lol
how long till she erases him from her videos? shes already started insta.>>666270
The cycle continues…
i dont think she ever really had him in her videos. the only times i can remember is in the cheese video and that one kitten video, but even that was just his hands.
she always kept him out of her videos cause she knew that everyone hates him, i think.
she will 100% paint herself to be one of his victims
, ignoring when she laughed his past abuse.
for now its an amicable split, but soon itll be "i am a survivor of an abusive
relationship and drug addition uwu"
Waiting for this. She'll do a 180 and blame it all on Jonny and say she was under duress because he would've beat her or something.
Hard to feel pity when she chose this. hopefully shes gonna go through inpatient. She needs to stay off social media too, and have her phone taken away.
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I'm guessing the dude with Jonny in his story was
friends with Tudy
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Meanwhile in the U-haul..
At least his handlers know how to keep him on a leash. At least he'd be doing something productive.
Dude is an asshat but he can sing. Colin would probably take him back.
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Im a fan of the classics
God damn anon spoiler that shit. Jk but his face is pure nightmare fuel, what the fuck does he think he can ever accomplish now. The fact that he screwed things up with Taylor (as was inevitable) just shows how REALLY worthless he is. He’s a waste of space and yet managed to land a young, cute looking girl with hella YouTube money who paid for his expensive Gary Busey teeth, housed him, bought him whatever he wanted and submitted to his will. He will never get to have anyone but low tier trashy dumb fan girls as a physically repulsive washed up has-been with documented abuse of women, hepatitis and god knows what else, no money, no band, no place to live, and absolutely nothing to offer except some drugs and STDs. Not saying that Taylor is going to be a treat for her next beau with her many issues, but holy shit, the manlet fucked himself over and it’s glorious.
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He’s trying SO hard to get back into her pant- I mean wallet.
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Guyz hes not sad or anything
He's so deep in the denial train. He looks like he's about to cry in his story. He trys to put on the tough guy lie and its just sad. No. Just. No.
she'll probably end up moving, oh well, it be like that sometimes.
Yea if her family is involved she MIGHT have gotten serious.
Still don't think its inpatient, but if we don't hear from her for a while I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
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I’m worried about this too. She probably told him they need time away from each other for a bit and that nothing is actually final, or that if they both get clean, they can resume their relationship. She may have said it so he would leave and she’s secretly not allowing him back, or it’s the actual plan. However, the things she has been posting makes me hope it’s permanent but it may be too soon to call. This is Taylor after all and getting a straight story out of her is never reality. >>666321
Except that in the now deleted story she said “ending relationships is hard” so that’s kind of telling, but go off, Jonny….
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Might be looking into this angle to break the lease. She better lawyer up and read her contract.
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weeeell that took long
surprising the following: _______
ffs I always forget he calls himself "daddy", fucking disgusting
Man what I'd give to be a wall fly in the cab of the uhaul
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well that really says A LOT
What does she think shes gonna accomplish by running away from her problems like this?
Just because she can't see it doesn't mean people aren't talking about it. If anything this only makes people talk about it more. won't be long now before the latest drama video goes up telling everyone I told you so.
actually complains about changing his dad's diapers for everyone to hear… that is so cruel. no respect.
i'd cry if I was his dad and saw that story
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He’s zooming in and out on this in his latest IG story. I feel like he’s trying to be intimidating and threaten Taylor at this point
Sure hope Taylor alerted security about him by now.>>666375
I mean, this is the guy who would spontaneously record & upload his gf when she wasn't looking or feeling her best…
I honestly think that her need to overshare and make herself look like the victim
has backfired so many times she should not say anything until she's completely safe and he's off the road. The most dangerous time for a victim
of dv is when they leave.
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Jen tweeted this earlier. I hope she spills whatever she has
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Did somebody say nudes? NSFW
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still shows up for me
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Found this interesting. Could be a troll.
There's no way he has ten years left in him. The fact that he's still alive is a testament to the resilience of the human body>>666397
Wouldn't be surprised if it were alcohol- or mental health-related, e.g. a panic attack or something psychosomatic.>>666364
Social media is cancerous. It's a good thing that she's taking a break from it, regardless of what her intentions are. She's not obligated to blog about her problems to a bunch of randos. In fact, it'd be better for both her and the pet community if she didn't. Fucking zoomers
yes, she's definitely a victim
, but she's also a brat and doesn't deserve pity until she makes progress. its sad she got stuck with jonny and shes facing heroin addiction but shes fucked up so many times its incredible. other farmers replied to you, but she's been nothing but evil and wasn't really a good person to begin with
said, she'd get some really good videos if she actually apologized truthfully for all the shit she's done behind the scenes. i mean imagine if she actually sat down and apologized to the victims
of her ex-bf druggie predator, talked about all the animals shes killed, why, how, and how she's downsizing to cater to specific animals she can handle best, apologize for all of those fan events she avoided, apologize to anyone shes attacked high in the last year on rants, etc. >>666216
everyones saying she's lying, but what are the chances that she wasn't doing other drugs? shes not exactly clean before jonny, jonny just made her a lot worse
i dont know if she was necessarily doing H before him, but theres the incidents where she didnt show up to events because of implied drug use problems>>666222
"guys i could only afford ONE house after extensive heroin use!"
Am I just innately cynical? Because she walked into this relationship with her eyes WIDE open, she chose to start doing heroin and date a known abuser.
but now she can be all "my story of how I got in too deep" and portray herself as the victim
If something like that did go down during the last few days the police were not called. I already searched the SA Police and county jail logs.https://spotcrime.com/tx/san+antonio/dailyhttps://www.bexar.org/722/Jail-Activity-Reports
If it's a first time domestic conflict or minor (no actionable assault), often the police will issue a warning and tell the people involved to get away from each other for x number of ways. But since he has a rap sheet the police probably would take him in at the slightest indication of Taylor having been harmed.
can you imagine this retard being your mother? "can't wait to spill the tea about my own daughter for asspats from strangers on the internet!"
the absolute state of these trashy idiots.
oh fuck the fuck off
There are celebrities out there who haven't fucked up their whole lives with EDS, and who don't use it as a constant excuse when they're dope sick.
Breaking up with Jonny wont fix her hoarder problems, her narcisstic personality and wont revive all the pets she has kill for being stupid and neglectful.
She isnt completely innocent in this, literally everyone warnered her about him and she went after him anyway.
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This person seems to make a lot of bold claims with no evidence. Attention seeker.
Can we please drop the pregnancy thing? There is no way in hell.
She has already denied this. If she has PCOS, getting pregnant would be pretty difficult to begin with. Doing drugs with mess with her fertility to some degree as well.
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Not very milky I guess, but this is such an obvious jab at Taylor because of her Celiac's disease
She's not CAPABLE of improving, she is a narcissist with a messiah/saviour complex. She's still harming and neglecting her animals, has never apologised and atoned for mocking both bisexuals and sexual assault victims
, and knowingly dated a rapist for over a year, and defended him in public and to his victims
. Not to mention she does her drugs right near her fucking "pets" (read: hoard). Stop WKing her.
Well done, anon! I'm sure Taylor has now seen your repeated, uplifting posts, coming from a gossip messageboard that has about a billion threads bitching her out for her animal neglect, drug abuse, etc. I'm also sure she knows just how much you want her to improve - you're making such a difference in her life!
Can we seriously not, this is so embarrassing and delusional.
Big on the IF
, all we have is Taylor's hypochondriacal word for it. Though I do think wet blanket is a troll I wouldn't take Taylor's word that she has it.
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Twitter gone again
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Did someone ss her response to Colin?
I cant rn
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His tweet was in response to her "I hate drugs and drug dealers"
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Also this one.
Lol. I'm sure she doesn't give two fucks so long as we're buying her bs. This is someone who wants a pass for publicly vilifying someone who had the audacity to snort some of her coke. Dumping the excess baggage is a top move (especially for drama lovers) but it's not the end of this saga by any means.
>Taylor R was somewhat of a lolcow success story
U wot? Seriously what are you smoking.
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Everyone's favourite manlet
I don't think she'll ever change. She's just just going to start talking about how she was a victim
and how much it changed her; forgetting that she didn't give a shit about Jonny's exs and even got into his drugs.
If she's still doing drugs, especially recently with him then that withdrawal, with an addition and a breakup, it is going to hit her hard. Jonny is not gonna stop love bombing his wallet so they'll be back together in no time.
Jonny got her hooked with his drugs so I wouldn't be surprised if she's hooked on him. She basically needs rehab for her drug addition AND her problems with boys. Which she won't do.
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her kitchen counters were suspiciously clean in the last pic.
She may stay in the house. There's no way she can move all her animals and their new cages into their parents home. She was already struggling with finding place for her crested geckos before (so they lived in the bathroom).
I think this is actually the worst time for her animals. She's alone, she's probably going to go through withdrawal from drugs (because I think we all know she was using even when she said she was sober), she's going to feel lonely and probably miss the relationship even if it was fucked up. Her animals are going to be the last thing on her mind because she won't even be making videos.
God am I glad to see older anons setting people straight on this - she won't change. Even if she ditched Jonny he is only one part of the equation and her animals won't suddenly be cared for.
Tbh I agree with the anons saying she probably didn't fully break up with him but they're just going on a break. She then posted shit on social media (something she shouldn't have done clearly) and it set him off. So now she is going to disappear while he goes through a cycle of hating on her but as we have seen with all his other exes, he never really fucks off. That means he will always be part of her 'past' even if she doesn't mention him because he sure as hell will be mentioning her.
I think all the bashing is because anons are afraid she will stop producing milk now that jc is gone. Guys, don't forget that she's still a lying hoarding narc with a psycho mom, and jc drama is far from over as well - just look at his exes.>>666486
Honestly it was the same newfags constantly begging her to leave jc in a gossip forum of all places. People should just accept that they cannot change her life remotely and just enjoy the shitshow.
Am I seeing things or does JC have a black teardrop tattoo like some bad made for tv 90s gangbanger movie? So was he raped in jail or is he bragging about raping someone?
My 2c TND is scared he has proofs of her continued drug use and is funding this move and is keeping the polite "oh we'll try when I'm better, sure" to keep him from releasing.
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I'm starting to lean towards that taylor told him they were just taking a break t
I think so too. Maybe with the shitstorm lately, Taylor decided moving JC out of the picture would be a good idea. So she tells him they'll take a break and he moves to NY under the guise of taking care of his father (lmao, yeah right) to make it seem like he had no choice. Seems weird that an "emergency" is going to last two months. Also an emergency where you take your entire PC set-up and FUNKO POPS? Like okay, I understand the PC for a long-term stay. But taking your hunks of plastic with you just says he's moving out and he needs his toys because he's a goddamn child.
So perhaps Taylor did say they were on a break. Then she saw the response and attention she got about dumping his ass and maybe it gave her some courage. We all know Taylor's been waiting for him to drop dead so she can reap the sob story of her junkie boyfriend who she couldn't save. Maybe she thinks he'll do some dumb shit in NY that'll give her reason to actually break up with him and he's already out of the house with his shit? I'm leaning more towards her sending JC away in the hope of breaking it off with him at a later date, but telling him that they are just 'on a break/this is necessary for us' and that's why JC is sperging out because it didn't occur to him that Taylor may actually kick his beer gut ass to the curb.
He lied about raping/abusing women just yesterday, and has denied allegations. He is notorious for gaslighting, and manipulation.
I don't think it's too far fetched to suggest they did break up, and he's just.. freaking out.
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I was thinking the same thing. Shitty screengrab but there is extensive water damage to the upper corner by Jonny's head in a video he posted a few days back about his twitch. I don't remember any of the ceiling having large water spots before, maybe the landlord saw the damage that many fucking animals can cause to a property and told them to gtfo.
Okay great now dicks are ruined for me forever
Thank you lolcow for making me lesbian
I disagree, he's moving way too much shit to be "temporary". Taylor probably told him it was "just a break" but we all know she's a lying POS.
Breaking up with him after he's moved out would be a very Taylor thing to do. In the past she's wanted him out of the house cause hes constantly around her 24/7. Obviously something happened that caused them to live separated.>>666170>>666166>>666122>>666116>>666207>>666255
All of these posts especially the last one make it clear they aren't together. She sounds like she's made up her mind and she's pretty stubborn about getting her way. She's gonna use her story for pity points and she can't do that if she's still with johnny.
She is a chronic relapser but I don't think they'll get back together.
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If they didn’t break up, why did she specifically mention Jonny in the post? “I know he’s struggling” ?
She literally could have said they were going on a break to him and then just broke up online. She's a fucking idiot if she did that because that's exactly how you get an abusive
response. She should have stayed quiet online
This. I think she told him it was a break to get him out. That's most likely why he's confused/in a lot of denial. It was a huge mistake to tell the internet it was a breakup. Because 1. everyone is going to be super pissed if she lets him come back and 2. she's going to piss HIM off big time
Which is probably why now she realized to just delete her social media
But her need to be a victim
is probably why she was so public about it. She just fucked herself. She better be moving out now for her own safety. He obviously doesn't need her to be able to travel anywhere, he has people at his beck and call for whatever reason to drive him anywhere.
Right now I bet she changed the story up on him again to say it's just a break which is why he is now posting shit like >>666575
He's probably more sad that he's losing her house and her money which is why he's so emotional right now and she's probably easily manipulating him right back.
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jonny's been asking his fans to share suicide stories on his discord
I don't think he's trolling. This is another abuser tactic.
It's like Jonny read "how to be an abusive
boyfriend 101" these are such obvious signs lol
I don't think he's trolling. This is another abuser tactic.
It's like Jonny read "how to be an abusive
boyfriend 101" these are such obvious signs lol
Fucking thank you. She's a vulnerable narcissist while Craig is a malignant full of himself narc. People like him also do not kill themselves and fear death a lot. Him and her are both pieces of fucking shit.
Her mother likely caused her to be a vulnerable narc, but anyone who has experienced a narc, especially vulnareable, they're actually worse due to how they go about their manipulative ways while playing innocent and mostly they even are successful in fooling most. Especially through the internet.
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Junkies will shoot up anywhere from the skin between their toes, to the veins in their neck and everything in-between including yes, dick veins.
Hospital IVs are most commonly insterted via hand or arm which is usually the first place to blow out after continuous self injecting.
What a useless tactic considering nobody would care if he died. This isn't even just typical anon hate, like, literally Jonny for a fact nobody would be mourning
, you're a trash excuse for a human being.>>666620
This is hopefully code for my family is helping me move out
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Now that they ‘broke up’, should we limit our posts about JC to the ones that relate to Taylor?
I think for as long as he is mentioning Taylor/if he ever does, he fits on here.
Things are still so fresh, and he's bound to grow increasingly angry/bitter soon. I imagine he's going to go on the smear campaign as soon as he realizes things wont work for him and Taylor (because for now, he's clearly under the impression that they will)
So I vote for him to stay on here.
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I'm living for all of this Johnny in denial posts. Taylor's already planning on getting her shit together (for now anyway) and her fans are rejoicing their split while he's still off going "Haha no man, she just asked me to take all my stuff in a uhaul cross country so I wouldn't be bored while caring for my dad 24/7. It's all cool, honest!"
>"my son…is wondering why you're with Colin"
Wow, fuck you Jen.
Who wants to bet SHE was the one actually 'wondering' that, but said it was Tanner just so that Colin or his gf couldn't respond accordingly.
…And she wonders why Tanner gets mad at her sometimes…
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Context for the Distro sending money tweet, and all of JC’s I’ve got money tweets.
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Why do you stupid fucks still give him money besides his ~*RoYaLtIeS~*
C'mon Tudy! Colin, drag him but please don't help this abusive
Why is nobody able to just drop him???
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I wouldn't be surprised if she messaged him and said "I'm gonna say we're broken up on my story to take the heat off us but don't worry daddy we're gonna be together forever uwu" (this was on the latest picture of the two of them on johnnys insta)
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How long till he figures it out?
Tudy was just his dealer am I right?
Shit like this >>666678
is well deserved imo when you're associating yourself with a known abuser and rapist. Colin and the others gave him a pedestal to further his singing career that he shouldn't have, and who knows all the ways now that Tudy has helped him.
None of these men were in a relationship with him, what is their excuse? This man cannot advance in life without leeching off of other people, which people let him do, because ???
Like there isn't enough proof of him being a shit head to begin with
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>That was made up by Taylor’s crazy ass mom.
You mean Jonny?
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Old milk, but relevant to this stage in 'the cylce'
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Here's Jonny & a friend threatening Tudy again…
Yeah underneath all that gangsta talk and tattoos he's a weakling bitch. Taylor finally saw through his facade and realized it. She curbed him because he was a bum not because she wants to get better.>>666728
I don't think Taylor really cares what happens to him at this point. She's used up whatever clout he was worth, As soon as he left the band it was only a matter of time.
She never really "loved" jonny, he was just there for the rockstar experience. She'll act like she's changed but I wouldn't be surprised if she started dating someone equally bad. Girl has daddy issues.
Johnny's the quintessential aggressive posturing male; no doubt that was at least some of the intention. He acts like a bird during mating season
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What are you trying to say JC?
Insta story commenrs disabled HAHAHA
Nothing milky imo. What's he gonna do now anyways he's hundreds of miles away.
Jonny just likes to blame other people in life for his problems. He acts just as much a victim
as Taylor does.
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a dedicated fan of his, I'm guessing he was either a roadie or an errand-boy
ok… that's kinda weird >>666749
I still think this guy is a troll. There's def. something else going on, why did she go to the hospital? Why did she have jonny leave? How long has she been talking to her family?
I'm starting to think she's been talking with her mom plotting to get jonny out for a while now.
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Possible damage control? It has he slithered his way back into her head?
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The whole lawyer situation may have pushed her over the edge? I willing to bet she's gonna ditch her overpriced home. That's when this removing jonny from insta. thing started right?>>666752
It's clear their relationship was on the rocks before. The "family emergency" thing seemed really sudden. Taylor's health has been shitty for awhile but still.>>666755
This 100% sounds like stockholm syndrome or something. Im not saying she got beaten but. She's trying to make it seem like shes still with jonny, she absolutely made it clear she dumped him. sounds like lip service to keep him off her back.
She still LOVES him? And CARES about him? After all he’s done to her and other women?
She’s totally going to take him back. Maybe not just yet, but it seems she will eventually.
I’m disappointed as hell in you, Taylor. I thought you finally actually got smart. GETTING BACK WITH JONNY WILL RUIN YOUR PROGRESS AND YOUR LIFE ALL OVER AGAIN.
Like Chelsea said. Please never look back.
>>666761>Im not saying she got beaten but. She's trying to make it seem like shes still with jonny, she absolutely made it clear she dumped him. sounds like lip service to keep him off her back.
Oh yeah it's damage control for sure, but I can't really blame her for it. Johnny is a psycho who definitely abused his previous exes, almost certainly abused Taylor and she's probably shit scared of him. Getting physically beaten isn't the only type of abuse, and honestly it doesn't fuck with you half as much without additional psychological abuse.
It's the best way for her to survive this situation, and honestly it's much better than her taking the opportunity to victimise herself, which is probably her biggest flaw. She doesn't hold herself accountable in any real way and always chooses making herself a victim
nah anons, she just wants a back up plan in case she can't find anyone else.
She wants to leave the option open to come back to johnny because she can't handle being alone. I guarantee you if she finds someone else she won't go back. This is her having a backup plan, shes gonna keep him strung along until she finds a new sucker. Why do you think she was mentioning post malone again? Shes trying to find someone better but she can't cause shes a loser.
What progress? This girl has never made an ounce of progress towards anything except maybe getting over her fear of needles.
What's with the hysteria? Between the stans and the WKs it's pretty funny.
And that's why we dont root or support cows. Hope you learn the lesson.
Sooner or later the truth of what really happen comes out, i put my bets on almost od'ing.
Either way both of them are really toxic
, one of them will explode in the next five days and spill all the dirty secrets.
pretty sure this dude is just concern trolling to get a rise outta the farmers here.
Can we not bitch back and forth and stay on topic?
i absolutely agree with you about the backup. i don't think she will move on unless she has one, which is why i don't think they're truly broken up to begin with. it sounds like they did make some weird ass promise to let the other one try to get clean or some shit but taylor is too much of a loser to strike out on her own. she's one of those pathetic types who thinks abusive
dudes are romantic. i don't see her getting 100% clean either. she likes being numbed out too much.
this is ot, but jen is such a trashfire of a mother. your daughter is pathetic because you raised her to be that way. jen needs to fuck off twitter and look after her family for once.
Vagueposting is her reason for living. It keeps her stans glued to every stupid tweet. You gotta love the guessing game she's had them caught up in the past few days.
It's like she can't even interact in an honest way with people that support her, she's got to keep them on pins and needles. and keep headgaming them. Sorry but she is gross.
jfc can anons stop trying to save her life through lolcow posts? just enjoy the show, she's putting out a good one.
of course she isn't going to stick to the only time she's talked sense in years. that's why she's a fucking cow.
She knows jonny ruined her career and She knows her stans don't like him either.
She's trying to balance that with the fact that she can't function without a boy in her life. She wants sooo desperately for some prince charming to swoop in and solve her problems for her.>>666775
The vagueposting is just attention whoring. The fact that she has people watching her raises her self esteem, even if its negative attention.
She's like a girl at a party that sucks everyone's dick because they want emotional validation from men and have nothing to offer beyond their sex appeal.
They HAVE separated tho. Taylor is just being a manipulative cunt keeping jonny on the hook. She said it ENDED multiple times. They're not together.
Why do you think she doesn't want people showing him her stories? She's got a hidden agenda to find someone else.
Agreed. Unless she's more broke than we know, he'd take her back in a second for her money, which is probably why he's so in denial about it. She may be hoping to jump into another relationship too, but I bet most of what she is doing is just to try to get Jonny out of her life as safely as possible, since he already has a history of violence against exes or their property.
And didn't he steal Chelsea's cats and Liz or Chelsea's dog? Technically Twisty was supposed to be his, and maybe he thinks one or more of the cats are his. I'm sure he doesn't actually want them, but if he can claim any of Taylor's animals just to spite her (or make her look bad for "letting" him take them) I wouldn't be surprised if he tried that.
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Friendly reminder Taylor's ex replied with this a few days ago before everything went down.
If she was putting out her feelers with an old boyfriend, I don't see how it would be Jonny-approved.
You would think Jen would be busy with her disabled son, and not on twitter subtweeting the haters?
She is absolutely to blame for a lot Taylor’s behaviors now.
Jen is either retarded herself, or is taking some special medication herself. Because holy fuck, this is not how a normal person acts.
When a junkie is trying to get clean, they need good support. Usually that support comes from family, or friends. Taylor doesn’t seem to have a mom, and moreso just a sister. And she has Betsy who is her assistant. That’s it. And before now, she had Jonny Craig at her side of ALL people.
What a mess.
Yeah, I feel bad for her a little because she may be a narcissist but if she's really trying to get clean, her support system sucks. I have a family that is problematic
in very different ways than hers, but if I were Taylor I wouldn't want to go back to relying on her parents for support.
She also seems to have alienated herself from all her friends during her time with JC, except Betsy who she paid to enable her and I doubt Betsy will help her stay clean now even if she wants to. Hopefully her family is at least sane enough to get her into a real program, or keep her animals alive/rehome them while she does inpatient, but Taylor really needs to learn to actually be "by myself" like her tattoo says if she wants to stay clear of abusive
relationships, romantic or family, going forward.
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When is Jonny expected to die of the kidney failure again?
Jens got issues but shes still better than jonny. She's a crap narc parent but she isn't the worst I've ever seen. Being sole caretaker of her retarded son 24/7 probably took its toll on her. Wouldn't be surprised if she got stupider because of it. Taylor was probably left on the back-burner.
She's still her mom and does seem to be providing SOME support at least.
Probably a couple years. 5-10 years max, depending on severity.
Prader Willi Syndrome =/= Retarded
Slow down before you cut yourself on that edge
Retarded = stunted mental development
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yea, cause your not living with a psyopath lol.
Ironic, it's like she's bathing in the blood of her dead animals.
>>666844>I'd go 2 weeks between every shower I took.
we know you nasty ass bitch, we saw your videos. But you were looking after your animals 100% right?
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I think this is Jonny's new girl. he's already beginning the "us vs the world" narrative.>>666846
Taylor has never (obviously) posted before, you really think NOW is the time she's gonna show up to WK Jonny? She just booted him. She knows he's a lowlife. She's not going to come here to defend him. This screams "new girl whom Jonny has lied to so she will believe the world is out to get him, so she wants to save him from all the horrible people on the internet"
I like what im reading but she's such a drama queen. She really is a melodramatic white girl.
Time will tell.
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Right as if anyone here likes Taylor
Bb we will see you back here once you are preggo and he bolts or you don’t have any money left
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…He's also a real stand-up guy
Def not Johnny or Taylor, they read this thread obsessively enough to have at least a basic understanding of how imageboards work. >>666854
is probably right.
Whoever it is should seriously read through the threads before they become Johnny's next victim
It's one of two things.
1. She really does think she can't cut him out completely and that time apart can save their loves/relationship
2. She is letting him go slowly and carefully to avoid a shit storm, by telling him it's just a break.
It could be either, but honestly.. Having been in a crazy ass abusive relationship myself, sometimes the only way to escape is lying to the person. Saying "yeah, fuck him, we broke up" is a sure way to get your shit trashed, nudes leaked, secrets told, etc. Basically, they ruin your fucking life if they feel betrayed or tossed aside.
By telling him it's a break, she may be hoping that he will go somewhere else, time and space will make him less obsessed, and the relationship will fade off without the crazy abusive bullshit.
Taylor's brother has Prader-Willi syndrome and is far from "retarded." He's irrelevant to this, leave the kid alone, seriously jfc.
I think Taylor's done with Heroin McRapist and will quickly get over him without housing with him, so she should be fine.
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I don't know the private conversations between him and the girls he talks to, but it makes sense that directly after a break-up he would complain to whomever he was cheating with, lie and tell her it was all Taylor's fault and he was the victim
. he's a little bitch and is in hard denial so he still thinks he can convince Taylor she's wrong and he can come back soon.
sorry that I didn't make it clearer but this is all speculation without proof. but based on abusive
tactics, Jonny's history, and the situation itself, who TF supports Jonny in this? EVERYONE is supporting Taylor for dumping him. why would anyone run here to WK Jonny if not because they're seeking his validation and hoping he'll choose them to
leech off of
want to give some context for this cap?>>666875>>666876
thread has a scroll function, see >>666254
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The desperation of fucktard continues
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…so he wasn’t going across the country in a Uhaul to deal with a “family emergency” involving his father… WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT???!!! Lol how pathetic.
She wouldn’t even have to be addressing anything or keep anything civil if she would just fucking shut her trap on social media. She’s the one who vaguely kept saying she needed to END a relationship with him and could ONLY get healthy with the help of her family.
It’s not the internets fault you don’t know how to use your fucking words. All she had to say for ass pats on social media is that her and Jonny decided to live separately for awhile while she battles her drug addiction and mental health issues. Or she can continue pretend that it’s not the drugs that has gotten her to this point except when she wants ass pats and to be a voice for those addicted to drugs.
She continues to be repulsive and idk why anons on here keep cheering her on when she clearly is just attention seeking like the fucking cow she is.
he's already worming his way back in. my ex did this shit too. immediately started talking about how much he loved me, how good were were together, talked about it through rose-tinted glasses all while forgetting how abusive
who the fuck breaks up and then says "my love for you is endless"? he's love bombing her and acting like the split is civil so she'll take him back. he's probably freaking out, but somehow his pea-sized brain is smart enough to instead manipulate the situation. he'll show taylor how "civil" he's being and when taylor is sober they'll get back together.
I'm not blaming her, honestly. Grey rocking and lying are better ways to get away safely from an abusive
relationship. Much better to pretend and say shit like 'sure, we'll see later if we're both sober, still love you, bye' and be sure he's out of the house than to risk a frontal confrontation.
I'm sure it wasn't easy to get him out of there and away from his personal cash cow. Him getting away with the computer rig is a small price for having him out and in a u-haul this fast.
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Why constantly complain about their animal care standards and then turn down a job to improve the lives of the animals they sell?
Not that they would be improved under Taylor's care, but that just sounds so pathetic. Like they would even offer someone a job that shit talks them every chance she gets.
I really hope she rehomes almost all of them. Going to stay with her parents, maybe keeping a couple easier animals but not the whole hoard, and getting sober would be great for her if she would actually do it. And even better for the animals that would get away from her.
IDK how her stans feel about her rehoming animals, but it's what she should do, and it really seems like she can do no wrong with those 12 year olds.
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Just more proof of her being unable to read/jumping to conclusions. There's lots of pages out there glamourising self harm, Instagram is just covering their ass as social media is under a lot of scrutiny for this lately.
The reason says "self harm OR suicide", Taylor. Absolute melt.
Which is hilarious
since her PetCo job was just… running the till, since she was physically unable to do anything else on the shop floor due to EDS or whatever.
So take PetCo knowledge levels and, uh, lower them. Considerably. Aaaayup, that's our Taylor!
Moving out, working at petco, rehomjng animals. I bet her finances are FUCKED. I can’t wait to see her try to get top dollar for these $$$ morph snakes. >>666938
But Jonny has never fully let any of his exes go. He vague tweets about them, sends them dms, he still texts Amanda just to fuck with her. It ain’t over yet folks. Jc isn’t going to go into a drug hole and just let his biggest meal ticket go. She is lucky he’s half way across the country at the moment though.
yeah her hoarding problem is not so easily fixed. her deciding to downsize her collection will not solve her issues that got her to acquire the hoard in the first place.
remember how she was almost buying a 10k snake just before she kicked out jonny? she has an irresistable urge to get new animals no matter her situation. she needs therapy.
Why does she make it sound like she's fully recovered. Kicking Jonny out may kick your drug supply out but it doesn't kick out the actual addiction, she's fooling herself into this so hard.
I don't know shit about drugs but as far as I have been told, going cold turkey normally doesnt go well. She would need to go inpatient and that would leave her animals in someone else's care which may not be bad depending on who she leaves them with but will never change the fact that she is a hoarder.
i mean she also said she's at the start of her long term recovery. soo actually isn't saying she's fully recovered? if she breaks up with jonny, rehomes a lot of animals, moves back with her family and gets proper treatment isn't that….everything this website said she should do
on a different note, is she now trying to become also a self harm advocate after already being an animal advocate, invisible illness advocate, mental illness advocate, drug recovery advocate? lol
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any bets on which animals she'll rehome if she actually does it? she will probably keep some of the originals despite them not being popular (cersei, mushu, leopard gecko, her crested geckos, etc). probably all the snakes too. bindi will probably stay, as well as the cats or at least ghost & nemo. star seems more likely to be rehomed. then again she'd be moving them in to a home with two established dogs who have no history of living with cats. so realistically, the cats would be top of the list for being rehomed but we know she won't.
my bets are on these animals being rehomed
- halloween crabs (though likely they are both dead already, so she'll "rehome them" kek)
- twisty the bearded dragon
- the new croc skinks she got to replace dany and drogo
- the scorpion
maybe she'll rehome some of the more boring snake morphs, so in the future they can be replaced with more designer morphs.
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Recent comment from Jonny on her reposted By Myself tattoo post.
I honestly can’t tell at this point whether he is deeply delusional, whether she is deliberately hiding posts from him in order to make a safe exit or whether they do plan to reunite at some point in the future.
I would never choose to pass judgement on a woman’s choices, however bizarre they seem, when extracting themselves from an abusive
situation. But the way this is all being handled is completely bizarre and it makes me wonder how scared she really is of Jonny when posting so openly on her account (that he appears to still have access to) about toxic
I guess only time will tell.
NAYART but my bro was diagnosed with PW syndrome and firstly, yes it does cause retardation in the archaic sense of the word. He will have some level of developmental delay, it's part of the diagnostic criteria. Secondly, I understand the impulse to defend him, but it's not a personal attack on him, it's not like he can help having the condition.
At least some of Jen's weirdo behaviour Taylor's development into a munchie is because he has these disabilities. Being a disabled carer and having to live with someone with that level of disability fucks you up, and honestly you're kind of downplaying how serious his condition is when you say it has nothing to do with anything. I've known a million jens, my mother is a jen. If you've lived through it, it's plain as day to see.(blog)
Top kek. crawling back to mommy just like we said she would. >>666982
Of course she's gonna bail from that house. She'll use this as an excuse to get rid of all the animals she doesn't like anymore. She's gonna dump a lot of them at shelters or sell them to fans for cash imo. They won't have trouble finding home because they were own by "THE QUEEN!1!!1".
Hope she kept her receipt for her 6k cartier bracelet and all that mall makeup. She 100% deserves to go through hell right now.
She really doesn't have that many job prospects. She's lucky she was even offered a job even thought her care knowledge is so minimal.
I think she's gonna have a disappointing rest of her life. She'll realize later how easy she actually had it.
Probably super easy too, POTENTIALLY PART TIME, well above minimum I imagine. I can understand not wanting to support unethical treatment of animals, but the only way it's ever going to change is from the inside.
She could really help educate (basic shit) to people about animals. If she gained enough traction within the company she could easily help 1000's of animals that die of neglectful purchases. New Company-wide training videos with updated knowledge and all that shit.
There are some very passionate people working at these petshmos who just want to take care of animals in a shitty spot. She's being a bitch for brushing it off.
If it ever happened, which it probably did not, lol
Why would Taylor get a job offer basically handed to her? Without applying or having previous job history as any sort of animal educator? Why would it come through her mom? Uhhh. Occam time!
All that lil tidbit shows is Taylor really wanting to boost her ego. OMG I am too smart and good for PetCo!
YT is over for her. Jonny has left a permanent stain on her career and it's all her fault. Anyone who isn't a naive 13 yo' sees the problem with her. Her drug addiction is well documented and no respectable animal company would touch her with a 39.5 foot pole. The YT game is changing and it's obvious she running out of money.
People like a good redemption arc but it's so obvious she was rotten from the start. She never cared about the animals, that's a fact. It was ALWAYS about her, her content was never education, it was entertainment. A giant circus freak performance exploiting animals for personal gain.
She's not gonna shit talk jonny because he has dirt on her, its that simple.
When he figures out shes done with him he'll spill the milk. After that and she gets all clean (if she ever does) she'll rant and rave about he was abusive
I'm guessing its more like a Mutually-Assured-Destruction sort of thing so they'll both stay quiet for now.
It's not like I want her to fail, but her not getting away from social media and still posting constantly doesn't make me too optimistic that she's actually going to change. as long as she's not in impatient care for addiction and in therapy for her hoarding and other mental problems, she just won't get better.
I'm also not sure she's not actually so stupid as to let jonny back into her house. but we'll see.
Not sure she's getting evicted but there was def some friction there with LL and HOA.
The Lawyer fees dealing with the HOA must've been ridiculous. I'm sure they're busting her chops at every opportunity to get her out of that house. At this point i'm pretty sure she wants to leave too but doesn't have anywhere to put her shit.
I don't think she's going to do inpatient at all. I'm 100% certain jonny was the source for her drugs, she'd never go to a dealer herself.
Her animals have been deeply fucked for a while now. Pretty sure there have been some casualties behind the scenes.
in the middle of all of this, this bitch. you got offered a real job, yes, at a company you hate, but it would have got your stupid ass out of the public eye, off social media, and gives you a waaaay better chance of getting and staying clean. having responsibilities is key. but this bitch is gonna go home and live with mommy.
. Not good, he's gonna escalate it to force a reaction from Taylor.
He's trying to manipulate his way back into her house. Hopefully she sticks to her guns but she's really weak and anti-confrontational. If he just shows up I don't think she'll have the courage to turn him away.
Dentist appointment my ass. He's trying to hold on to his meal ticket lol.
he says he just needed a uhaul for his computer set up…lol trying to convice us it’s not permanenet.
Funny he said he would be gone for 2 months and now its 1 too
also why is he inviting other people to “kick it” with him and taylor…just sounds like a need to weird flex but disguising it as some sort of invite
Manipulation 101. He's forcing the issue because Taylor left it vague, this is a big power play.
He's gonna confront her about the relationship when he gets back to SA. He'll show up and he'll act like nothing happened. He's dismissing her statements about their relationship ending. She's gotta straight up tell him NO GTFO or he'll keep coming back. He's using the subconscious threat of violence to keep her where he wants her.
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So Taylor's going to pay his airfare so he can come back to town and she can pay for his dentist. Interesting.
Anyway here's Jonnyboy pretending the Uhaul didn't really have anything in it.
Um… you could cancel
your appointment & set one up at a later time.
Then again, Jonny's looking for bullshit reasons just to come back & make sure his little meal-ticket stays under his
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Honestly, I hope she's lying to him at this point. She seemed so happy without him…
Might just be walking on eggshells so he doesn't blow up. Clearly she told him something different.
She's lying to herself if she says they're not together and he comes back and "hangs" with her.
knowing what a weak-willed person she is I wouldn't be surprised if she took him back.
That's the sad part. He KNOWS how weak-willed she can be, all it takes is whining & pulling the 'puppy-dog-face' & she's back in his grip again.
Taylor better be beefing up the security that this gated community has, or at the very least alerted them about it. Along with taking Jonny's name off the lease if it's on there. She already said she had a lawyer now.
holy shit, if she's actually dumb enough to let him back into the house (AND pay for his teeth and flight) she's a lolcow til the end of times. maybe anons will stop excusing her behavior with "she just can't get the manlet out of the house" then.>>667051
I think it was either a flat out lie or some awkward smalltalk between her mom and an employee ("oh your daughter is an animal educator, she should totally work here haha").
They both signed the contract, I'm sure he got a key and doesn't need Taylor to let him in.
I doubt she could change the locks to keep him out.
Leaving the house to avoid him could be dangerous for her pets…
She should bring a bunch of friends over for backup.
I noticed the counters clean as well, just as another anon mentioned in this thread or the previous one. That right there is a bit suspect. = evicted because we know they never clean.
But I do think she is letting him off on lies and he is really love bobbing her in the hopes to get her back because Taylor = $$ and a roof.
But doesn’t he snoop on here? So even if she is hiding her stories, he will find out any way?
That tattoo on her thigh gets me every time. I just imagine a granny Taylor with that misshapen blob of ink.
Yeah shes got some weird psychological shit going on. Often times people who "rescue" tons of pets and start hoarding are suffering from emotional issues. The hoarder wants to be loved the same way they "love" their animals. It's just a substitute for a lack of interpersonal relationships. But the animals will never love them the way a human can.
Maby its a reaction to some childhood trauma who knows…
Spoiled white girl that probably didn't get enough attention growing up. Nothing ground breaking or particularly traumatic.
Her attention whoring I can understand and forgive but her animal neglect is inexcusable. She's a BAD and LAZY pet owner that doesn't do anything beyond a google search and the bare minimum. She sets such a bad example for a huge audience and is given a free pass because she's (or was) a pretty young woman.
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I took a screenshot of that comment as I thought it was another weird example of the over the top TMI she has been spouting for the last few days. Again, she left this comment on her ‘by myself” tattoo post that Jonny is still love bombing all over. I don’t know what this is designed to achieve, other than painting Taylor as the Most Damaged (tm) and another excuse for her hoarding, drug addiction and poor choices.
I wonder what Taylor’s dad, her staunch defender all over Twitter (against Colin and others), would have to say about this.
let's be real, her codependency issues stemmed simply from not getting enough attention due to her brother being special needs. it's unfortunate she stumbled upon an abusive
relationship at an young age, but if you've got a head on your shoulders you know how a man should treat a woman even if you have never known your father (which wasn't even the case for taylor).
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Taylor & Tanner's biological father. He has a son from a previous marriage.
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>"dumb mother fuckers like yourself who feel the need to try and flex over the internet"
>"Why am I not in jail? why don't i have even ONE fucking charge lol"
Good question Jonny. Why haven't
you been locked up yet?
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I forgot to post this yesterday but it’s a comment on the first tattoo photo about her childhood
Jonny, you are the dumb mf flexing over the internet.
Funny how he couldn’t be bothered with Taylor’s meltdowns on social media this past month because he plays video games for like ten people. But now all of a sudden he loves and supports her.
what a crock of shit. She didn't get raped, Jonny's victims
Anyone who's actually gone through the experience of being raped would NEVER make fun of victims
of rape. She's the kind of person that makes people question REAL rape victims
. I have a very hard time believing she was "violently raped"
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She's just a lying slut using this as an excuse. She get's off on using guys and has for a loooong time.
She was probably hella skanky back in high school/middle school.
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I wonder if this will come to anything or if JC will smooth this all over like always
wow. get fucked, taylor. other people have abusive
parents or parents that have died and shes over here whining about a loving dad that worked his ass off to pay for HER medical bills?
Ahah my bad!
Although I will say that it's hard to classify drug addicts that way bc addiction brings out antisocial and sociopathic behavior that might not be there otherwise. With his track record of what like a decade on the needle it could just be a result of the dope.
seriously, she's blaming her father not taking her fucking fishing or something and not creating uwu memorable bonding moments - for being attention whore and getting into abusive
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Typical privileged white girl, had typical suburban life lol. She had the edgy teenage phase and everything. Because Taylor at 16 had it sooo rough… bullshit cough cough
Take some responsibility
why is this always an argument against tattoos? the rest of her will be a prune by then too, so who cares at that point, haha.
i don't think old tattoos are the worst skin related thing about becoming granny-age.
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ah, I'd say she's always had the mama dean look but taken great care to conceal it. both pics are taylor.
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lmao Jonny couldn't even pay his "REAL friend"s trip home, Taylor had to do it!
Hopefully she doesn't bite and leaves him in NY. He can't go anywhere he's so broke.
I don't have anything against tattoos, hers are done extremely poorly and were impulsively bought.
If your getting it for "art" and you have the money (like she did) at least do some research and get it done by good artists.>>667157
Yea lotta angle fuckery going on with those pics. Probably lost face fat during puberty and gained it back with jonny lol.
Right! There’s her example of a man right there, someone who works hard and makes sacrifices to provide for her family. She must be very touched if that somehow translates to lower yourself for the attention of a junky with a disease ridden carrot. Just wow. And her using rape in the way she is makes me sick because most victims
don’t want to question a possible victim
’s story, so she’s literally put actual survivors who don’t buy her shit into an awful place. Fuck her.
why tf would you drive half way across the country just to fly back for a weekend and then fly back again?
No way she believes this is honestly about a dentist appointment…
Uuuuuuh what happened with this guy then?>>666817
Obviously having a normal ex boyfriend who you still talk to doesn't fit in with her victim
Full of shit, once again.
Boohoo you had a dad that supported your whole family? Grow up, Taylor.
Also, having a guy friend can also be an important male presence in life. And Tyler obviously cared about her a lot since didn't he cry about her in a stream after she dropped all of the pettubers? Fuck him too though I guess huh Taylor
I agree 100%. She grew up in a nice home with both mommy AND daddy as an upper middle class white girl, and now it’s “mah childhood was terrible” I am screaming! She wants “problems” so badly for excitement and internet clout that she invited Jonny Craig into her life. She has literally PAID a man to get her hooked on drugs and to see what would happen. Welp, this is what happened! Someone should let this delusional woman child that the world really doesn’t care about how you were raised, what trauma you’ve gone through, or any other excuses you have for being a complete and public mess. People care about ACTIONS, not long diatribes on Instagram about your dad that worked 12 hours a day 5 days a week and didn’t have time to push you in the swing whenever you wanted. People have REAL problems and are working, trying to pay rent, going to therapy, building meaningful relationships in person with people, and this spoiled rotten turd is crying from her huge house on her brand new iPhone to thousands of 9 year old girls about her dad, her shot out veins from banging heroin. This bitch would kill herself if she had a regular life. Jesus Christ. I hope it hits her where she’ll really learn a life lesson: her wallet.
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Yep, from the waaaaay beginning, anon
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Just a reminder that JC has pulled this shit multiple times before. He literally say ANYTHING to keep a girl locked down…
It's the same bullshit everytime you'd think people would wise up to his shit.
well said anon>>667202>>667206
ok, I'm never believing anything she says about her father ever again. she's absolutely full of shit and will claim anything for sympathy and to blame someone.
Exactly. I'm so speechless about this excuse. Like he was absent because he had a job to support you? And that's why you chose to date an abuser? Like…what.. how…..????
Doesn't even make sense lmao. We've all seen how much he obviously cares about her when he was fighting so hard to keep her away from Jonny.
She'll sell them off to fans, and advertise on social media like she did with that dog she fostered. >>666987
I agree this is what she meant. She just wants to look like she cares about her pets, but she'll sell them because she's not really attached to most of them, and then probably start replacing them with entirely new animals whenever she is next able to spend the money/justify that she has the space.>>667006>>667024
This. Taylor acts like Petco just knew her mom and offered her a job, if Taylor didn't make the whole thing up I bet at most Taylor's mom asked someone random at the store and they said she'd be welcome to apply or something, not a guarantee they'd actually hire her once she applied.>>667080
Even if she did get a hotel, if he gets back in that house he's probably never going to leave, probably stay there to force her to confront him or something. She's better off getting somewhere he can't get to her, permanently, until he finds someone new. >>667177
This lol, does he think we don't know they have dentists in NY?
i call bullshit. my dad worked full time and my parents were divorced. i still had a healthy relationship with him. she just needs attention all the time and thinks that mommy and daddy didn't give her enough of it.
she's a privileged white girl growing up in america. her parents are together. she lived in a nice house and got medical treatment for her conditions that no doubt her father paid for. christ if i was her dad and i saw her whining about how she didn't have a father figure growing up, all while suggesting it's the reason why her first time was "a violent one" and how she sucks with men because of it… she's such an ungrateful little cunt.
Thank you. A father not giving enough attention is a valid
way to get daddy issues. Of course others have it worse where the father actually abanonded them. But ffs just cause she's an attention whore doesn't mean the struggles she claims aren't valid
for others. Another example is the anon who said she could fix her eds with excersize or that "people like her" use invisible illness as an excuse to not contribute to society. Don't let her give others a bad name. Focus on the fact that HER claims can be disproven not on whether its an actual issue in general. her parents are obviously helicopter status there's no way she wasn't parented by her dad even if alot of the attention went to her brother. We've literally seen org of her parents want involvement in her life to a psychotic extent.
I'm so glad I vaguely remembered this, thank you for referring me back to the proof from when it went down.
Based on the evidence and her past behavior, anything she says about her father is most likely a falsified ploy to gain sympathy at this point. he works hard to support his disney-obsessed wife, disabled son, and spoiled-rotten, entitled daughter! what an abusive
, absent, deadbeat shithead! /s
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tay's vagueposting again guys!
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I don't think Jonny's at his dad's house…
(Dawn here is Chelsea's mother - both her & Chelsea are a bit acquainted with Jonny's family - Roger is Jonny's father)
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Not sure if this has any relevance either but…thought I’d post what Mama Dean tweeted
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Taylor, get a clue.
He's with someone else
right now >>667241
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This literally sounds like he’s being threatening to her
Taylor blaming his toxic
behavior on other people. Seriously, he's fucking abusive
Taylor. If he's getting freaked out over this shit, that's a reflection ON HIM.
It does sound from these posts like she was trying to let him down gently to get him out, and now when people go tell him it's definitely over he starts threatening her. Good for her if it is over! She's probably better off not posting things people can send to him though, if she REALLY wants to end the drama. >>667241
I was wondering whose cat it was in his video. Definitely seems like he's left, but worrying he thinks he's coming back next week for that "dentist appointment."
I wish, but highly doubt her parents would hold her accountable for that shit. Pretty sure she is calling out JC for lying about seeing his dad.
I am sure her dad is very hurt and feels too guilty to even hold her accountable. Which in itself goes to show he's a great dad.
I'm so confused, if she hasn't blocked him on insta (since he can still comment), can't he see her stories himself? why is she freaking out over people sending him her stories? they're pretty much public.
or is she just playing mind games with her audience?
Because she knows that the moment she blocks him anywhere
is the moment he's gonna go apeshit on her.
Do YOU even understand Taylor? You vague post for attention and in turn your blind stans legitimately are worried about your wellbeing.
For the last month she has been sperging up and down social media. She literally didn’t have to even mention anything about her and Jonny splitting. She simply did for attention because she needed to hear “how strong” she is for leaving him while she’s in the hospital because of drugs. She’s just saving face now because she knows Jonny is going to expose her and clearly there is tension between the two of them. I can’t wait for this milk. Jonny is going to drag her through the mud and she’s going to milk the victim
card. Or she’s going to pay him to keep quiet just like she offered Chelsea money to take down the texts exposing her heroine use way back when.
thanks guys. if she absolutely doesnt want him to see anything, she should just keep her mouth shut though. if he wants to see the fucking stories, he'll find a way even without people directly "snitching".
guess she can't help herself, too good of a situation not to use for attention.
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implies she's not safe "guise I'm safe i promise"
That had always been a lie. Jen mentioned that the first time her and her husband met him was at a P.F. Chang's and that Jonny started acting up. Taylor freaked out and was trying to babysit him. I think it was that same night that Taylor snuck out to meet JC at the hotel because he was having issues with the payment for his room and was making a scene.
He was with Chelsea three weeks prior to being with Taylor, and was at the hospital because of drugs at the beginning of that same year. Up until now (and that's debatable), Taylor has always lied about Jonny.
Sounds like blackmail. Her whole post sounds like a cry for help, he's gonna explode on her if he come back… Suuuper sketchy…>>667241
This legit kinda worries me, where the fuck did he go? Side bitch? again super sketch…
why would a 55+ yo man have little mermaid posters on the wall? That doesn't make any sense. I don't think he has any younger siblings in that age, and its not where he grew up.
Im thinking he found another girl, and that's her spare room or something. Or he's renting from sketchy craigslisters who take cash or something.
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The posters in question
well, maybe he had relatives over or something. we know next to nothing about his situation.
him inquiring about his dad's internet plan isn't that peculiar either, imo.
I'll believe he's somewhere else when I see some proof, man.
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It sounds like she's completely aware of this and trying to do damage control so he doesn't go nuts on her.>>667267
It's hard to tell how much of it is the result of her need for internet validation and how much of it is Johnny trying to get her to call off the people accusing him of abuse and her trying to appease him.>>667292
Three days is generous, she can't help but use at least some form of social media to let the world know what's going on in her trainwreck of a life
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timestamp is fucked because of timezones, but he just posted this. note the tnd desktop background.
I think she still thinks she can be rational with him and split up.
What she doesn't realize is the minute she tells that to his face he will go ape shit. That's when he'll try exposing her or killing her animals to force her to stay together.
She's too much of meal ticket for jonny to let go of.
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Guess he couldn't set up his computer by himself
Doesn't seem like he has permanent living arrangements wherever he is. He's not gonna stick around if he can't stream or he gets bored. First it was 2 months, then 1 month now he's going back on the weekend.
Maby Taylor is paying for his time away as some sort of vacation. I don't buy the helping my Dad story, he wouldn't be coming back so soon if he really needed help. Not to mention it's ungodly expensive to fly.
Oh shit you're right, thank you, that's my bad.
I do still agree that she never should have said anything because at some point her socials were open and people will of course screenshot and send her shit to Jonny, either with good intentions or not, doesn't really matter at this point.
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He is going to push her so hard in person next week. I don’t think he necessarily has dirt as much as she just wants this done quietly and quickly. It hasn’t truly hit her yet that he won’t let that happen.
if she really wants to get rid of him she'd cancel his flight and send him his shit.
He's not capable of an amicable split because shes his cash cow, with her hes got nothing again. She thinks hes just gonna break up without any issues after she gets better. He will never leave her alone even if she gets sober, he will also obviously stay a junkie.
Shes just being dumb and naive again. He won't outright kill her, the druggie lifestyle will just take both of them out.
The longer she stays with him the closer she gets to dying, gotta love a BF that shoot up his "Queens" in their sleep.
b-b-but that would cause him to hate me! I can't be hated! I need validation and attention from abusive
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I might've missed the post of it on this thread if someone got it, but Jenn posted earlier something along the lines of 'definitely being no hanging out in SA' which matches up with Jonny's IG stories, tweets etc. Then there's this
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Jonnys main fan boy got drunk tonight and is tying to act like his idol. He isn’t smart enough to leave his number off line while trying to act like such a try hard. [redacted] Feel free to let him know that him trying to be Jonny is a horrible look and hasn’t worked for Jonny since day 1(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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It's hard to have sympathy for addicts like Taylor that for whatever reason want to seem more than they are (cool, hard, bad bitch, whatever) and think there's no chance of them ever getting addicted because "they're smarter than that
Always rich spoiled girls thinking they'll be the ride or die to save some tweaker or junkie with all their love. Never works that way, you end up addicted and broke and only have yourself to blame
Notice how she says, “if he wants to comment he still loves me, let him, and I can also comment back that I CARE FOR HIM too.” She doesn’t love his ass ahahaha
That’s a start. She is probably really leaving his ass for good then.
She does have the upper hand, as long as she's smart enough to avoid physical violence or letting him back in via manipulation if he does get back in town. Even if he spills secrets about dead animals or how little time she spends caring for them, it'll be SO easy for her to point to his history of abuse, lies, etc, and say he's making it all up. Or play the victim
, "he got me addicted to drugs and MADE me do them instead of feeding my animals!!" She won't lose the stans she hasn't lost already.
She also probably won't, but she does have the potential to improve her public image/situation and that gives her more power than him- he's just mooching off people until he dies of liver failure. She may not have a glamorous youtube career anymore but she could make a little bit of money on new videos and maybe get a regular, minimum wage job or go to school or something. Unlikely she'll put in the effort, but she absolutely has paths to make her life less of a dumpster fire post-JC.
he's bound to have another account. the point is none of these stories were private, like >>667385
You really must be a lot like TND, since you are so good at blaming other people for her own stupid and attention seeking mistakes.
Oh, I'm sorry…you think she is being smart
Just bc you can't pat her ass on SM anymore doesn't mean you bring it here.
She's likely paying him off/keeping him happy to keep quiet about any dirty laundry. Taylor is also banking that if JC does say something that incriminates her, she can pull the abuse card or say he's lying. Then she'll spill his dirty secrets.
She will never come clean. Never. Taylor will pile lie on top of lie until her tower falls over just like it always does. It's unbelievable really, because it just makes her look even worse but she can't help it. She will continue to spin the truth and lie to avoid taking any kind of responsibility for her actions.
Yea she'll play it off like she's in control but it's obvious she's the one getting pushed around.
Her whole i'll get him clean and sober so he can be my perfect-rockstar-husband was just a way to feed her ego. She thought that jonny was a stray kitten she could rehabilitate. LMAO that she still thinks she's in control when he got her hooked on heroin.
So much self denial in Taylor, she can't admit she made a mistake dating him. She still doesn't realize he doesn't want to change, he was fine with the way things were going even when she was smacked out.
Deactivating twitter and insta kinda is getting herself of off the internet tho
With or without Johnny she’s a mess regardless and whatever is going on with this situation shouldn’t be put on the internet in the first place but with these two what do you expect.
I think there’s a higher chance this time of her getting rid of him for good though, it doesn’t seem like a charade I think she is trying to let him down gently but also fucked that up by stating they were done most likely before she actually told him - so she wouldn’t be safe right now with his history of abuse
She needs to get the fuck off the internet and she’s doing that so finally good on her for making some kind of step forward, but how long they will stay deactivated for is another question
And also conveniently blaming it on other people! Let's not forget that.
Taylor Nicole Dean not only went all middle-school on her friend there and got the whole Petfest crew of bitches ganged up against her… she also just plain old blamed everything drug-related on that poor girl.
Because it's never Taylor's fault, right?
>>667518>She'll probably dox herself
This god dammit! Everything she does is her own fault! My tinfoil is that she needs to be a victim soooooo
badly that it is the reason why she got with him in the first place. She wants so badly to have reasons for people to pity her. That, her ~illnesses~, lying about her dad, her abusive
ex-boyfriend, which speaking of, something has been bothering me still about that. She didn't say she was raped. She avoided using that word. She said she "lost her virginity violently". What does that even mean???
At least she finally deleted her instagram but we all know that isn't going to last long. There is no way he would not have been sent those instagram stories. And even if he weren't, you bet he would be finding a way to view them on another throw away account. It's like she was just asking
him to come freak out on her.
And why let him come back for his dentist appointment? Why fly him back? Even if she isn't paying for the flight, he will find a way back. And she will likely let him in the house. I really hope she moved out immediately.
It aaaaaallll boils down to her just finding ways to make herself into a victim
That would be the smartest thing to do, unless:>Johnny has some particularly nasty, career-ruining dirt on her that goes beyond dead fish and lizards>Johnny's hinted at getting violent/destructive if she severs ties cleanly>Johnny is threatening to release nudes>>667518
Her best hope by far is if he turns his attention on one of his online groupies.
It's also possible Jonny is just making shit up to threaten her and keep her scared and intimidated. He's not bright but he's an old hand at abuse.
But yeah, I don't think ol JC would drag his bloated corpse out of state and put all his tacky little dolls in a UHAUL if he didn't have something new in his sights. Prolly found a new girl or some friend to leech off of.
I mean, isn't he releasing that shit anyway when he finally realizes it's over? how is stringing him along forever better? might be a good idea for a while, IF she can keep him out of the house, but well… considering how triggered
he still is at his exes, I don't think he ever really cools off like a normal fucking person.
I don't believe jonny has any animal related dirt on her tbh, he didn't give a shit about the animals. if he leaks nudes, well she should get the authorities involved.
hey, it's improvement-anon again, please look for some new synonyms lol.
just to play devil's advocate, sorry but don't think taylor is ever going to be looking good any time soon. taylor is white trash munchie attention whoring garbo who gets off on vomiting out her bitchfights with other influencers and followers, bullying people she sees as lesser on social media because she has nothing and is truly pitiful, washed up before she hit 22.
she blames everyone else for her problems and because of that she will never change. she blames her mother for paying attention to tanner, she blames her father for her choice to date a fucking domestic abuser, she blames his exes for getting beat up, she blames her fake illnesses for her lazy non existent work ethic, and she sees her animals as a paycheck. she doesn't care about anyone but herself.
if she has any remaining bit of brain in her empty head, she will stay off line, move to a more affordable place, and get a job. she will do none of this because she's a big fat dummy. gonna make a generous bet and say she'll stay offline for a week. she cannot stay away from asspats.
loving her continued tumble into poverty and irrelevance and getting big schadenfreude feels.
>>667521>She said she "lost her virginity violently". What does that even mean???
What a liar. She wants to get clout for being a victim
. She wants people to be nice to her the way they were to Amanda. She thinks if she just tells enough stories people will like her.
i could easily see armchair addictions counselor/junkie influencer.
STORY TIME: How I beat my addiction and you can too UwU
That's what she WANTS to do, but she'll never do it. Counselors and stuff don't make shit for money, the ones that make bank are ones that got in on the public speaking game years ago. They've written books and usually do it to promote that crap.
The Ted talk market has dried up, nobody wants to hear her sob story. plus she doesn't have the ethic to travel and speak.
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So uh… aside from the infamous 'Macbook scam', it looks like this guy ran other scams too…
LOL watch Kati Morton or whatever her name is from Shawn's expose vids pair up with TND for maximum milking of that tragic, tragic story
It'd be a match made in heaven, ngl
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TND after 1 day without social media.
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No way hes gonna leave her alone. That's why hes flying back for a "dentist appointment" even taylor's fans can see through this bullshit. If she keeps him around she's only gonna lose more followers and subs.
Airing all this jonny drama online just added more buring jetfuel to her career.
>>667533>I mean, isn't he releasing that shit anyway when he finally realizes it's over? how is stringing him along forever better?
Her mentality might be something along the lines of 'maybe if I'm nice to him he'll get with another girl and forget about me/OD/whatever before he has the opportunity to go apeshit'. Plus trying to delay the inevitable is a pretty standard human endeavor>I don't believe jonny has any animal related dirt on her tbh, he didn't give a shit about the animals.
He probably doesn't know anything about her improper care, but if there was any sort of drama around the health or deaths of the animal then he might have been tuned in enough to know that it'd make good blackmail.>if he leaks nudes, well she should get the authorities involved.
Is revenge porn illegal in Texas?>>667525
for the good of the world, hopefully not, ew>>667539
Yeah, she would have to pretty much change her entire way of thinking in order to make any sort of meaningful self-improvement. It's not impossible, but it's probably not going to happen.>>667550
She does have a fairly large and devoted fanbase that'll gobble up whatever she throws at them, so she might have a better chance than average at making it as a 'recovery influencer' or 'self-care guru'. Unfortunately there are still a ton of people willing to watch that sort of thing.>>667573
Oh god, no matter what happens it isn't going to end well if he flies back
Yes she was with Jonny during Petfest
Her coke issues predate Jonny, she has talked about being a coke addict while at home but I don't have a post like for you on that, would be from a quite old thread.
Taylor didn't just blame Bree for the coke. Bree owned up to using coke and having addiction problems with it, but at the time was sober. Taylor legit just framed it as Bree FORCING her to bring coke along to the trip and causing her to relapse, when likely it was the other way around. Not only that, but when Bree came forward online about this Taylor then accused Bree of sexually assaulting her. Since the Petfest group likes to lick Taylor's ass so much, they all ganged up on Bree and sent her home and then isolated her from the group.
Taylor is a bully. She has a serious mean streak in her body. We all know she's fine with her fans attacking other people online because they disagree with her. Hell, she accused her own father of assaulting her because daddy didn't like her being with Jonny rapist Craig. Taylor doesn't throw people under the bus. She's the one in the bus running them over.
Taylor might be better off maintaining a social presence at this time, to keep the connection, who knows she may need it. I guess the problem is she can't stop herself from blurting out posts night and day and is mystified as to how Jonny sees them.
If she pays for his coming dentistry she's a huge fool. He'll never go anywhere else with such a big fish on the hook. She's keeping him close by doing that.>>667568
It's stale old milk though, 2-3 years old. I'm interested to watch him spiral right now.
It further proves she needs to rehome a majority of her pets.
I'm just sick of the bouncing between, "I can handle these pets" and "I didn't bathe for 2 weeks it was so bad. I drop things randomly because of my disease. "
Bitch, you can't have it both ways. Either you're capable or you're not. Proper pet care isn't about what's convenient for you that day. You have to be consistent which you can't be. Admit it and move the fuck on.
Emilie Rose stopped being her friend. Only the wanna be TND aka Emma Samp and Tyler are still her “friends” - Not sure I’m about Pickles and one other fat pet tuber.
Emzotic must be having a ball with what’s going on with her too. Lol
I have no sympathy for anyone walking into an abusive
relationship with their eyes wide open. She was warned and there was clear evidence he was abusive
. Oftentimes women don’t know until after they start a real that the guy is abusive
. This is NOT the case here. If you play with fire, you get burned.
I was just thinking about how emzotic might be feeling. Maybe she could reach out, actually? Considering Em was also struggling with drug use?
Regardless, I hope this story ends with Taylor getting decent help.
And she is still acting like she can be friends with him. There is no letting an abusive
person down easy, you fucking run and you hide and you get law enforcement involved if need be. She has already made a huge mistake by sharing shit online, now she's making a huge mistake with the dentist thing and I really hope she has someone staying with her just for safety regarding that.
omg I just checked, she's at about 1.6M and he's at about 1.2M. I hope the "Queen of PetTube" gets dethroned by the "King of DIY" and he becomes the "king" of both lol
I don't think he deserves it more than she does, he's so emotionally detached from 95% of his pets, but at least he's not a compulsive liar+drug addict who shames rape victims
and uses fake illnesses to get out of doing an incredibly flexible job.
Sub numbers don't mean a lot. It's more about # of views. She hasn't gotten a video over a mil in a while, and she doesn't put out enough to make any decent money now. Taylor is ruining an easy gig that could potentially set her up for life.
That said, if you make stupid content for stupid people how successful are you really. Anyone who judges life success off YT is an idiot.
Big YT'ers like DIY are only in it for the money, not about creating quality content.
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Why is he so fucking ugly? Ew
Trashy tats, swollen face, 33 y.o failure, wannabe gangsta persona, perpetual victim
, liar, scammer, woman abuser, hasn't matured past 14.
I have more of a problem with his dog-shit "personality" than his apperance. Everything about him is sooo fake, he acts all tough on the outside but in reality he's a needy fuck who can't function on his own.
Taylor and jonny were made for each other.
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Anyone else think he's gonna pull some shit when he get back? He obviously knows she wants him gone at this point.
If he's inviting people to "kick it" with Taylor, I doubt he want's the house gone. If Taylor moves back in with her parents he'll have nowhere to go.
Might be a topic he'll force on her. He'll pull its OUR house WE need to decide.
so fucking gross lol. taylor shouldve sent him away for a minute and sold all the toys and computer. then not pay for a way back home and move into a diff apt.
its all her money and i hope she did not share bank accounts or anything– doesnt seem like she ever did but if he actually paid for NOTHING then it is her decision 100% and she should fully utilize that to gtfo
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Eww dude this is creepy as fuck. “She’s not going anywhere” like this person doesn’t even know Jonny and Taylor. IMO this is the same attitude that he has, the “she’s not going anywhere” mentality.
I understand maybe she’s trying to keep herself safe by saying what he wants to hear but she is stupid as fuck if she lets him into that house again. Especially if she’s truly by herself there.
Tinfoil: I'm pretty sure he's some flavor of developmentally delayed/retarded. Between the mannerisms, him being as dumb as dog shit, and his physical deformities.
I don't imagine years of hard drugs helped the last few brain cells he had, either
the house has a bunch of windows, white walls, and super tall ceilings.
and it still feels super claustrophobic and dark to me.
how did they even manage that!?
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This bitch. Of course now when she feels like she's the victim, she is going to come out and talk about her ~*drug and abuse experiences*~ uwu. Screenshot from an older thread, but what a hypocrite.
It's good that she is trying to get away from Johnny, but personally don't feel sorry for her for the mess she got herself in lol.
I'm enjoying the ride either way, things are going to become a shit show and if Johnny gets into that house she and her animals are fucked and they will 100% get back together. There is a saying that goes with abusers, something like if your dog escapes through your fence and you get the dog back, you build the fence higher and that is exactly what he is going to do.
Since she reads here hopefully she is smart and listening to anons who are saying she should get off the internet and go into hiding, because either way Johnny is going to chimp out eventually regardless of what she does.
I agree probably stunted due to drugs and poor diet but FASD is reaching.
He's fucked up his body so bad his swelling distorts his face a lot. His eyes especially seems to almost swell shut when his liver symptoms flare up.
anon you replied to, tbh I feel the same way. She knew what he was like, she was fucking warned so many times - Barely anyone gets that luxury of getting told what an asshole someone is but she wanted the “experience.”
Well hun, you got the fucking experience and a heroin addiction too, I really hope it was worth it!!!!!! I will always feel sorry for people in abusive
situations but with her? It’s hard because SHE wanted this. I’ve never known someone to actually want to ruin their own life.
It's called being privileged white trash in America.The bar for white men was so low back when he was a kid, so white guys his age are fucking like that.
As for his tongue thing; literally all the kids under 20 are doing it. 90% of the social media pics of tweens/teens have their tongues out. Really reflects his immature mentality. Hang out with people your own fucking age JC, oh wait, adults know trash when they see it.
When did he OD?
They have antidotes and activated charcoal for this reason, to minimise the damage if the person actually gets to the ER.
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from the first thread. I just went through and reread a lot of it. Shit was wild. I'm just gonna post one more ironic screenshot, but I recommend everyone go back and reread just how clearly fucked up this entire situation was from the start.
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from when they first started dating.
Damn dude even her mom spoke truth back then. “She knows the risks and she is choosing this”. Never thought I could agree with something Jen says but it’s so true. Most people getting into an abusive
relationship don’t know that their abuser is that way. Taylor had wide eyes and red flags all over. She’s been lying for years about everything.>>667889
Agreed anon, I’m glad she’s away from him but she is stupid if she lets him back into the house. He is doing the typical “you can’t break up with me unless I say so”. Constantly saying he loves her and is waiting for her on the other side is so creepy and manipulative. Meanwhile Taylor talked about “ENDING relationships”. So I really hope she’s smart and doesn’t let him back in.
Jonny is going to go on a rampage if she actually sticks to her word and turns on him to keep him out and stops providing him with money.
Damn this is wild. What happened that made her so incoherent now?? I remember when we sided with her parents because what she said really did make a lot of sense. Now she went fucking crazy.>She is not a victim. Victims have no choice. She does.
Fucking agreeeeeee. Straight from her mother's mouth, she knew what she was getting into and did not want to change it. I know it's hard to trust what Jen says but I'm going to take all of this as truth.
i wouldn't take any of his songs seriously, like hasn't he made songs about exes that insults them? are we supposed to take that as truth as well lol
there's no reason he's stupid like fasd or autism, he just has a low iq and whatever brain cells he did have are long gone because of drugs. the dude is just dumb.
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I don't even understand it at this point. She's said multiple times, and now he's in hardcore denial.
Taylor better watch out, it's obvious he isn't stable mentally. I wonder how long she's gonna skirt around the issue, when he comes back this weekend she'll just tell him what he wants to hear. At some point she gonna have to fully cut ties, she knows it isn't possible to stay sober with him around.
She'll probably let him back in lets be honest, Shes a stupid cow and she'll pretend hes not controlling her. He leaves again and she gets sober she won't want anything to do with his junkie ass. That's when shit will hit. He will not let her go.
That or he'll stay in her life and she'll keep relapsing and struggling.
Probably too lazy, too stupid or he's off getting high. This must be like vacation for him, he can do all the shit he wants that Taylor won't let him do.
He's seriously sperging out about the dumping, probably texting her non-stop.
jonny is live on twitch and talked about taylor>me and taylor are still together. taylor is doing what she needs to do for herself and i, as a fucking man, respect that. and i went here to help my dad when he needed help. she needed some space i said, i got you. done. i'm not gonna sit there and try to fucking smother her, i'm not a piece of shit like all you think. so i got my stuff and i'm here, while she's doing her thing. she still loves me, i still love her. get the fuck over it, simple as that.
then, please correct me if i heard wrong, he went and said "boom, bomb drop nigga what's good?"
around 01:01:25 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/435530081
also lol at "im not gonna smother her" as if he's not doing that in social media already.
…And that in order to 'give her space' he had to leave to another state
Thanks for the timestamp because that seems like the worst waste of time to watch.
Oh, and he most certainly dropped the n bomb there.
>>668117>I'm not gonna sit there and try to fucking smother her
lol. he obviously doesn't know that you can, indeed, mentally smother someone aka not give them any space, mentally, to make any choices in their life.
Does he even know that this qualifies as a break up or am I the only one who thinks this and there are normal relationships out there that decides to move out and have their own space while they're still together? and while having one side tell people online that they're not together anymore (>>666597)
He's delusional and completely possessive over Taylor.
There are plenty of couples that move apart for a time but in those cases, I've never seen 1/2 of the couple on social media telling everyone they broke up while the other pretends everything is fine. lmao.
do we really think jonny is going to make it back to texas this weekend?
eh, the cross state thing isn't that unusual. if you take a break, one person has to leave. even if you're not a broke ass junkie like jonny, going back to mom and dad is easiest, cheapest, and you get some support.
what makes it ridiculous is that he brought a u-haul.
She probably hates that mofo. He wasn't dying fast enough and was draining her wallet.
Letting him have the computer and stuff when he left was her way of saying "don't bother me just take the money and leave"
It's satisfying knowing that her YT career is crumbling while she's getting sober. She hasn't had a consistent upload schedule in half a year and her views are very poor for the amount of subs she has.
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Someone posted the screenshot of Taylor talking about ending relationships. This are his replies
Taylor was one year old when this picture was taken. Yuck>>668241
why would anyone ever think Jonny would be the one to want out? unless she caught him cheating, that's the only reason he would leave, would be to move onto someone younger/richer/hotter.
I wish people would stop provoking him.
He's so delusional with his "we are still together lol", Taylor must be lying nonstop to him to calm him down.
I hope this weekend passes without her taking physical damage.
Be smart Taylor, don't let him in.
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I had to include the stan reply because honestly what the fuck?
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i think i've found my favorite stan
jesus fuck man
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That 'Jenna Judy' girl is a rude little bitch
Tbh I mistook him for the guy in the middle aswell. I thought "having that moustache since '98, how old is this guy" lmao>>668261>>668279>>668271
Genuinely, what the fuck is wrong with that chick? She sounds psychotic.
How much you want to bed this bitch turns on Taylor once it's legit confirmed Taylor left him. Calling it now. She'll demonize Taylor for, "giving up on them despite everything."
They haven't even been together that long in hindsight. This bitch is an idiot.
I think many of Jonny's stans are like that. Any current gf he has is "Such a STRONG, INSPIRING Queen!"
And when it's over, they either go quiet until Jonny finds a new girl, or complain about how "I never liked that bitch anyway!"
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Also these two stories, one saying he'll be streaming and the other one showing the living room show he's still in NY.
I personally don't think she can choose to take him back, yet. I think her family gave her an ultimatum (hence why he's holding on to the idea she'll take him back) She drops him, moves back home and goes to rehab, or she continues on the miserable path she's on with him. He can't move back into her parents place with her.
I think she hit rock bottom with the loneliness and depression drug cycle that it finally hit her that she can't get out of it with him.
I also suspect they may be getting evicted, or something with the lease terms is changed (Like she had to get rid of too many certain animals or leave)
Something definitely happened that woke her up, and in order to fix it, she had to choose him or getting help from her family, but he isn't allowed if she chooses the help.
I'm selfishly hoping that she spent this week quickly and quietly moving out of the stupid atrium house that she can't afford. I say selfishly because I want to watch the trainwreck that would be Jonny showing up to find the house empty and Taylor gone and throwing the tantrum to end all tantrums on social media
also because it's the smartest move for her for many reasons and the easiest way to up the chances of being able to keep Jonny out of her life
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He also posted a story listening to lyrics that said, “climb right in let me break your heart. I don’t need no one, I don’t need no one” and then he “freestyled” (not really) adding, “nada”
Is the I don’t need no one a dig at Taylor since he’s still in NY?
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For what it’s worth.
she's on such good terms she'd give him the password?
and he must be bored and desperate.
Anyone know if Playstation Password Reset emails provide identifying info like IP address from request? >>668463
I dunno.. tagging him directly opens dialogue.
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I guess they had an account together once upon a time. What a fucking LOSER he is. He has to go back to past relationships just to get what he wants now since Taylor isn’t entertaining him.
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She's moving out. Her money is going waaayy faster than she can make it. The house was an impulse buy to try and save her relationship, like when couples who are gonna breakup decide to have a baby.
Good riddance too, I wonder how she's gonna explain it to her fans. She'll sound like such a liar after her "big return" barely got out 3 videos and said she was clean lmao
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Find a new girl already?
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Dang, her name is Taylor & she looks a LOT like Taylor too…
Sockpuppet or Skinwalker? You decide.
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Just in case his brother is somehow relevant
I think he's talking about Chelsea here.
He hasn't 'flown' back to TX yet, so he's probably still on good terms with Taylor… for now…
Is this a real gun?
Jonny should have no access to any weapons he's fucking dangerous
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yeah he's talking about chelsea. he's saying he can't own a gun for one more year because of the restraining order.
If I were her, I'd be taking screen caps of him mentioning the restraining order AND the gun to use to get it renewed. Screen capping any mentions of her or to her. She'd have to have some proof of existing danger.
This fucker does NOT need to own a gun; hopefully he just offs himself with his dads. Sorry not sorry, JC is dangerous trash.
so let me get this straight. I know Chelsea had a suicide attempt as well and was in the hospital . This guy is so mentally, physically, emotionally abusive
that he drove two women to suicide attempts?
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I'd feel lost too if I was 33 didn't have a job, no house, no money, no career, a drug addiction…
Looks like Taylor finally told him, milk must flow. Either Taylor will talk shit about Jonny later or he will spill once he gets all coked up.
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Kind of old milk but more proof of Taylor not caring about stressing her snakes as she dangles this guy for tana to take pic with. Isnt even in it herself
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Yeah, I feel like she's definitely dropped the hammer.
"the saddest song ever. "
Oh man, yeah, no one has wrote a song about being dumped. Groundbreaking original content. No one has ever experienced what JC is going through right now.
I'm laughing so hard. Jesus Christ. Grow the fuck up JC. You're a grown add man.
>"No matter what I do
It’s not enough for you"
Umm, what did
you do Jonny? Besides
getting her addicted to heroin?
Did he make this or did anon make it? >>668932
God. Taylor and Jonny are stuck in middle school. MY HeArT iS BrOKen sO I mUSt gEt PoEtIc and CrY AbOUT iT and it’s 2019 so I should cry about it online and post nonstop while telling people to quit talking about it.
>>668941>why did I let you come in
Funny considering Taylor literally let him in anywhere she moved cause he's a homeless piece of shit.
He did nothing for her but get her addicted to drugs, depressed and isolated.
But honestly, I'm really glad Taylor didn't let him come back and told him to fuck off. Can't wait for his incoming narc rage as soon as he realizes she's serious and that he got dumped for real.