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Repetitive nitpicks about Shayna's body, face, and genitals are subject to a 1 day ban. Reposting the same photos zoomed in or edited is not milk and you will receive a ban for nitpicking.
REMEMBER: Read the rules before posting. Sage when there’s no milk. No nitpicking and/or blogposting. This is a Shay thread, curb your enthusiasm when posting sceenshots of other e-whores, they go in the e-whore thread >>>/snow/1363903
Last Thread: >Still has Fupa on the mind, tweets about the anniversary that she told him she was moving to Seattle >>>/snow/1482200, and about looking at snapchat memories of him >>>/snow/1494558 meanwhile he is engaged >>>/snow/1482264>Goes for another "domme" look in a dollskill latex outfit does not fit >>>/snow/1482365>Went to shoot again for lovinglyhandmadepornography >>>/snow/1483894, had to beg for money for an uber to get back because she's broke >>>/snow/1484049, no one pays so she had to call "The Dad" for a ride >>>/snow/1484128>Put out some awful pictures from lovinglyhandmadepornography shoot looking like an SCP >>>/snow/1484288, >>>/snow/1486962, >>>/snow/1492407>More disgusting pedo pandering fantasies >>>/snow/1494074, roleplaying underage for her followers >>>/snow/1498364>Will be working with the photographer that shot those awful outdoor lake shots again >>>/snow/1503306>Part 2 of her shoot with lovinglyhandmadepornography is released, Shayna is extremely awkward and laughs through the whole thing, tries to get away from him, makes stupid jokes and is generally weird. Her costar points to her zombie tit and asks if its the one he isnt supposed to hit. >>>/snow/1504247>Shayna posts a petition to take down Lolcow >>>/snow/1505609
Vivi Saga>Vivi announces that Shayna will be staying with her for a full week >>>/snow/1486639, and buys a $160 childrens play kitchen for their collab, says it will be the most important collab of her existance >>>/snow/1495044>Shayna flies out to Vivi's trailer in Northern California, getting drunk and making up stories about TSA finding her dildos and people buying her drinks as usual >>>/snow/1498180, >>>/snow/1498343>A farmer finds out Vivi has herpes >>>/snow/1500008>2 days in to her stay Shayna finally posts a couple awkward photos of her and Vivi in cheerleader costumes, and a short clip to OF, >>>/snow/1500797 >>>/snow/1500489, Vivi posts a very different unedited shot >>>/snow/1500517>She then flies home after only 3 days >>>/snow/1501869, tweeting about how happy she is to shower >>>/snow/1502278>Then deletes any mention and photos of Vivi from Twitter, Instagram and Onlyfans >>>/snow/1502990, >>>/snow/1505558, >>>/snow/1505629>Vivi goes quiet, finally comes back with a vague tweet about how life happens and you gotta go with the flow >>>/snow/1505513>Vivi, someone claiming to know her, or perhaps a random farmer comes through with a story of what may or may not have happened >>>/snow/1505628, to be continued
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Ellen "Patricia" Dresel:
Shayna's "gf," Seattle/Renton, WA Nannyhttps://www.imgur.com/a/11aZge7https://twitter.com/cuddlemenowhttps://itsactionsub.tumblr.com
“The Dad” >The 45 year old mystery man she’s “dating,” met him on seeking arrangements, ex sugar daddy turned boyfriend
”Slave Dad” >@bluefrodo1 on Twitter, submissive masochist “slave” of Ellen and Shay, participated in a video getting smacked around in Shay's pathetic attempt to domme >>>/snow/1362327
”The Old Man" >Max R Cameron, @maxrcameron on Twitter, married poly “bdsm coach,” has the dungeon she visits on occation in his house, ousted as an abuser in the Seattle kink scene >>>/snow/1371185
”Splenda Daddy” #1 >Jason R Womack, @okietwister85/ @womackglass on Twitter>Mentally retarded orbiter who sends Shayna rent money through Ellen’s Venmo.
”Splenda Daddy” #2 >Grayhair, @GNotold on Twitter>Old man who has a fetish for sending his money to washed up fat whores on Twitter>Constantly replies to Shayna’s suicide bait tweets with the infamous monsters inc gif
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future anon here.
I know i've seen lolcows post it at least once in their lolcow "Careers". Shayna's doing this so that if/when Vivi comes here (Which she did alledgely), people would go "Oh well this site is full of evil people who drove people to suicide! Who cares what's being said or exposed about Dolly Mattel here! These people can't be trusted!!"
Thats why if feel like Vivi should've done a Twitter call out post. Also, Shay didn't even @ her right, she never wanted to do shit with this girl. If she hadn't found out Fupaul got engaged she'd never agreed to this shit.
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vivi if you do this we won’t talk about you anymore. Unless Shayna brings you up. But for the love of god post them
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What I don't understand is what Shayna thought she was going to get out of this. A three day bender vacation? Vivi's boyfriend to dump her and get her to move into his piss-stained trailer? Did she not think the BF would tell Vivi what was going on? And now she's burned one of the few bridges she had left and is gonna get her unedited pics dumped here. Fucking bleak.
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I'm gonna vomit
don't give shart what to tweet.
Trust me, I already did including my sheets and I’m going to wash my toys again before use because gross.>>1505732
Yep, she STRAIGHT UP admitted she got the veiny tit done, her mom get her a fake boob in highschool and that’s why she can’t be hit there and is so weird about it
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They unfollowed each other, they were following each other this morning. I think this is legit
It checks out. If it is fake, she may need to get that shit changed or something. Maybe thats one of the many reasons she's been in the hosptail. >>1505746
I'm not that anon who is supposedely Vivi, but maybe because that Boob wasn't growing? It happens sometimes with women.
It's clear with the way it moves and how low the other grows, it's not natural. There's another cow who has the same issues, except she never got an implant for it. One breast is saggy and normal, the other is small and saggy.
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Vivi you’re a fucking legend
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I don't think some screenshot texts prove anything. Anyone can put the contact name as "Dolly" and just have their friend or partner message them. Or any of the other ways to fake texts. I mean yeah that's a lot of effort, but not impossible.
Would believe social media dms more.
I agree. Post the truth, with everything that happened and watch her unravel.
Don't get nasty or insult her as it'll just be ammunition for her to call you a "meany", just post the straight up facts.
Classic shayna, she will call you jealous and that you are "trying to tear the community down creating division among creators". Then she'll whine that the community is toxic
and ask for refunds on her wine. kek
I’m all her Ellen Dresel hate but she doesn’t have anything to do with Vivi. I don’t think she should say anything about her >>1505772
You’re right anon. I take it back don’t block her but do block her orbiters who will try to defend Shaynus by tweeting you. Block Abustedpixie
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GO VIVI and thank you for sharing here is hug
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all of us implant-conspiracy anons in this thread
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Possible crossover? Hit up Sol Vivi!
Nah isn't, I doubt he's connecting it to Shayna more so, "These people "Doxxed me" and are transphobes who talked shit about my publicly avaiable bullshit i put online and how my wife is starving while i go finger Shayna in a hotel"
She should'nt team up with him because he's gross and Shayna will see it as, "Two bitter people I linked up with are trying to ruin me!"
Seriously, this dude has no spine and will trade on you if ANYONE finds something "problematic
" you've done. Sol isn't a victim
of Shayna, he's just a gross retard in Shayna's circle who can't take the heat. Despite looking like Dale Gribble, he's not bold, interesting and needs to be told what to think/get mad about by Twitter, instead of thinking for himself.
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Thank you baby Jesus and the wee donkey for bringing us Vivi today
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Wine and goldfish crackers
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She’s going scorched earth. I’m getting the popcorn ready.
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God this milk is good. Expose her staph infected ass, Vivi. The sheer amount of time that Shayna has been “cancelled” and still is alive and kicking is fascinating. I guess Shayna is like a staph infection that won’t go away kek
on top of my head I can recall:
Pretty much constant lying
Exposing herself to none-consenting parties at a restaurant
Something with the dog fucker girl?
Fupas video of her being drunk and AbUSivE
(which we never got to see)
Literally telling her customers to fuck off
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spoilered because i genuinely feel sick
The sheer number of bruises in unedited pics of Shaynus has me convinced her alcoholism is so bad she is just constantly falling over at this point.>>1505905
So she was perma-drunk the whole time and encouraged you to be too? We suspect she has a serious substance abuse problem these days.
She needs to find a new hairdresser, didn't she pay good money for this?
Everything about it looks so dated, the thin stripe highlights, the weird middle aged lady blonde, the very poorly cut layers/feathering, it's not even properly grown out and it just looks cheap.
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Omg the cellulite
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This straight up looks like a rotting corpse
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Archiving all of them here
I can barely see your thigh tattoos, as other anon said very easy to get laser removed or covered up with something cuter if you've got an idea. But back thigh tattoos are dated and you're probably better off getting something you like on your arms or tummy.
As for Shayna, well, I don't like being mean to anybody but I think her horrid personality really began to shine through. She looks absolutely disgusting, because of her horrendous hygiene and her horrible manner of interaction. I never thought she was exceedingly ugly but her behaviour makes her disgusting. I can't believe her parents offered her a paid for course and she said no. I hoped for a cow recemption arc for so long and she kept getting worse. I can't believe even Fupa is doing way better than her. Ew.
BUT, the tit mystery is solved with lovingly bald and with Vivi - the conspiracy nonnies were right all along!
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Real life vs Shayna’s edit
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She’s pretending like nothing is happening carrying with being disgusting as usual
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Vivi, I think you should find one if those twitter callouts from other SWers that happen like every month so you can add you experience to it.
I feel like Shayna is very awkard and wants to make people like her so badly, I can imagine her coming around and just talking about everything.
"Oh my god,I have stalkers, I have to go to the doctor because my Boils, don't worry about it and watch out for my veiny tit, I have a implant, I got it when I was young, oh my god, I'm such a nice person people don't understand it. You will get hate for working with me, but just make sure you know it's not me, it's my haters-"
I feel Shayna has social aniexty and she doesn't really listen to people, especially women. She views Vivi as someone to defend, promote and possibly have one-sided interactions with. Not a true friend or even a fellow sex worker.
Everyone she meets she wants to be the center of attention and also prove she's not what the "internet" says she is.
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Don’t leave us hanging girl. This thread has been so dry. We need more info
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“Everything is fine :)”
Yep, she also got pissed when she bought ipas for us, but wouldn’t pay back for the food, and my fiancé drank most of them.>>1505962
In all honesty I related to her edgy bs and when she died in popularity on MFC I rose up in her wake as the REAL kinky girl Who enjoyed beating the shit out of herself genuinely.>>1505976
It was when she noticed I judged her for not cleaning her asshole before anal, yeah she showers but she doesn’t enema or anything and openly admitted she just yanks it out and pulls it off cam to clean it if there’s shit on it.>>1506023
I actually genuinely believed she wasn’t as bad as the thread said, I liked that we were into the same kinks (supposedly) and she had never had an issue with me just ignored me mostly. According to my fiancé she kept being super nice and flirting with him while I wasn’t in the room with them>>1506026
We got dressed up, did some photos, and she got jealous my tits were bigger than hers, said that should be part of the video then said she needed to get high and drink more so we did exactly that and never did anything other than a short clip of us putting on heels.>>1506031
Yep she did, and I openly admitted I had been on 4Chan/Reddit/and the egl and costhot threads on here.>>1506036
I can be completely honest and say my fiancé and I had a little fight, but it only happened because she was convincing me to do my Xanax and drink insane amounts of alcohol with her, that is exactly why I don’t abuse my Xanax or buy boxes of wine anymore, that was all her idea>>1506045
We know we’re degens so he decided to meme us kek
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Thank you so much for your honesty Vivi, you'll always have a special place in the heart of this thread ♥
Also, this isn’t the first time we’ve heard of Shayna doing pills or Xanax specifically. After the big breakup with Fups she infamously tweeted about wanting a xan. And multiple other mentions over the years.
I’m not saying Shayna is a pill popping addict or anything like that (at this point lol) but it’s an established pattern of behaviour for her.
Not to make this the, "Anybody whose anti-shay we stan" club, but I do think Vivi is self aware and maybe one day she'll wise up. Either way her personality and ablity to admit her fault in a way thats not asking for sympathy or blaming someone else is nice to see.
Hopefully she finds her way into a better place eventually.
You seem like a nice person, although you remind me of Lucinda, sweet girl but clearly mentally ill living with enabling family. I mean, your parents must know what you do because they must have seen your children's bedroom and you said yourself that your dad drove Shaytard to the airport?! >>1506081
Yeah, I don't think she's a pill popping addict either, but she's clearly an opportunistic bum stealing another person's Rx knowing she can get away with it
Vivi not betraying herself as the victim
makes her the better person. Soy cried and screamed when we said he’s ugly and disgusting. Viv didn’t make one comeback to us. And she admits her wrongdoings. I’m sorry but I have to stan this degenerate. Idc kek
Sadly it seems the school girl shoot pics she edited before she sent them, which she said she was sending them but I had to ask for them over a day later. She actively talked about working with both of us over video chat so sadly I have no caps/receipts, but basically she decided she related my fiancé to Fupa too much because of her own shit and decided she needed to dip because of it, she told my dad this while he drove her to the airport and I had to fix the mess and tell him what she did while she was here.>>1506074
I know I deserve to be judged for posting about my staples in that last collab I tried, mind you I was concussed and calling myself the big dick boy in the hospital when I took that picture so I definitely wasn’t in my right mind, but when that happened it was the same story. Girl gets me fucked I’m and abusing alcohol and my script, tells me my fiancé is the problem, mentally breaks me down after I say she has to leave and I have to regroup. Thankfully this time I was in a better place so I didn’t have a DID episode that ended up with me in the hospital.
Well she did say she reads here, So she's aware of how things work >>Yep she did, and I openly admitted I had been on 4Chan/Reddit/and the egl and costhot threads on here.
Also it makes things even more fucked up, someone who admits to reading this site, probably even read Shay's thread STILL wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. Still was a cheerleader for her, Shay was paying her dust from the very beginning tbh. Treating her like Ellen. Like an after thought.
She never does this with her male collabs. She doesn't even hype up that school girl collab, but gushed over Sol boy or those weirdos.
i saw it too nonnie
but let’s discuss once the milk is done flowing
She’s referring to a post in last thread someone dug up of her suffering a “DID episode” and getting put in the hospital with stitches in her head >>>/snow/1498311
She’s clearly mentally unwell and the xans mixed with alcohol don’t help.
God Shayna is such a bum. It's clear this girl genuinely wanted to collaborate with her on content and Shayna flew out on her dime, drank all her booze, popped all her pills, flirted with her boyfriend and bounced. I don't support making degenerate porn for a living, but Shayna can't even accomplish that
with a bare minimum of professionalism. What a fucking loser!
I also admire Vivi for keeping her cool while anons on this thread were dragging her and calling her a meth head junkie, and only showing up with milk when it was clear Shayna had completely screwed her over. Surprisingly mature behavior for a sex work cow.
Oh yeah she video chatted with her multiple times in front of me but the last one was alone and I’m pretty sure it was so she could talk about how we admitted were crazy and into hard kink kek.>>1506111
I’ve been honest with y’all so I’ll keep being so, I actually was sexually abused as a baby/toddler and it extend into my adulthood including getting trafficked at 21. So yes I have DID due to extreme trauma at an early age.>>1506114
I’m writing it up tonight tbh I’ve just been distracted with responding.
Girl, she’s mentally ill and openly admits it. Also it’s hard to stop being a degenerate once you get exposed to adult content at a young age and groomed by the internet saying it’s empowering. >>1506119
You need to call Shayna out. That’s fucked up. She wasted your time and money. Idk why she even agreed to this if she knows she isn’t a sexual person. Post the receipts, text messages, dms, purchasing of the ticket, everything
Tbh you’ve said enough and don’t owe anyone here anything more including any trauma etc, those things deserve to stay personal and won’t change how these terf
/swerfs here will see you. They think anyone doing this deserves abuse even CSA/trafficking survivors . Stay safe love wishing you the best
See here’s the thing. You clearly have trauma and fully participate in the kink. Shayna larps as a ~uwu mentally ill kinky sex worker~ with trauma. She always talked about how taking care of her brother while her parents were at work (clearly they were trying to pay for food and bills) and how traumatic it was and how her childhood was taken away from her. Shayna is a selfish bitch. She lied about being a victim
of child abuse on tumblr for attention and used it as a way to justify her disgusting actions.
I suggest you don’t do puking or diaper porn. You can age regress as therapy but don’t sexualize it. And puking isn’t good for your health. If you really have to, just be careful.
Anon no we don't think she deserves these things because our thoughts on sex work or troons, I'm postitve plenty of anons have their feeling on those topics but are being understanding and kind to Vivi.
She admits she's a degen, has been through shit and we've been nothing but nice, even wishing her well.
She doesn't seem like a Shayna, she's someone who we can clearly see is a decent enough person who is struggling.
Can we not bring “TERF
/SWERF” discourse into the thread while the milk is flowing please. You don’t need to derail the thread.
She gets her makeup on first but she also doesn’t wake up until 10 and doesn’t get ready until noon, she just drinks HEAVY>>1506127
I only do the puke porn out of my own enjoyment and I don’t do it every day, just particular shoots or when I feel like puking kek>>1506127
Pretty obvious to me she lied about that when I opened up about my side, she was actively uncomfortable when I talked about my experience and how it affected my kinks
I’m great full y’all have been nice to me, I’m already on meds and I’m therapy so trust me I’m working on it, I just developed some weird kinks that make me enough money to pay off the rent to my parents and my meds and stuff needed for editing.
Good luck in therapy.
To the anon saying we'd make a thread on Vivi, no she's not really Milky. She'd be in the other sex worker threads which she already has been.
She's not like Shayna, she seems to be aware of her shit and I can respect that. Plus she's not that deep in. Feels like one of Shays orbiter is in here mad we aren't foaming at the mouth at someone giving us milk & also being self aware.
She's a sex worker, she's gross but she knows it and doesn't hide or blame others.
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Sol follows Vivi now but he didn't an hour ago. I feel this getting milkier by the second
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I hope everything goes well in therapy and that you can find something different that you could enjoy more than puking and degen porn. I’m being sincere, I’m sure you will find something that will give you money but that won’t make you get sick or lose your teeth.
The only grounds Shay has is changing her mind on wanting to have actual sexual interections with Vivi or the bf. I mean she's a sex worker and Vivi paid for everything under the terms that certain things would be done and made, but revoking consent is valid
HOWEVER knowing what a fake scamming bitch Shay is, she would agree to stuff knowing full well she wasnt going to follow through any way.
For sure. It was more of the hypothetical validity… if Shayna weren't Shayna. But again, she would just agree to anything knowing in her head she wouldn't anyway. Shes just not an actually sexual person. She wont fuck anyone shes not in a relationship with. And thats probably just because its the only thing she can offer for them to stick around – be a hole to fill or a punching bag.
Its hilarious that she said its because your fiance/bf made her think of Fupa. Even if that was bullshit, its such a pathetically cringey excuse and just shows desoite how she tries to pretend Fupa was so mean and shes totes over him, he lives in her mind and heart rent free.
You're right, she had no problem having Ellen pay to fly her out to suck Sols dick and get fingered by him. I really believe its because shes not bi at all. Shes only somewhat comfortable doing one on one content with a scrote. She loves to be the center of attention and pick me penis pleaser. Only attracted to guys definitely.
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This tweet she made going home from Vivi’s did not age well lmfao
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Holy shit plot twist
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Having a good time with all this milk nonnas
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fuck… here we go
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Vivi forgot to mention all this
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Vivi went private. So much for being honest
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He brought it up in discussion after she bitched about Sol for an hour + I already told you that
She was having me abuse my Xanax and alcohol? How was I supposed to remember I grabbed her throat and kissed her when the story she told me in person was that she kissed me when I mentioned it I honestly don’t think you guys understand how pills and alcohol work. I want private because i don’t wanna deal with her scrotes
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Ayo Vivi you gonna let her talk all this shit?
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This is not milk, ladies . this is str8 colostrum from the cows teat..
i agree nonnie
. Vivi may have omitted some information but I think shay is cherry picking here. She even says in this reply >>1506301
he asked for her to suck his dick FOR content. it doesn't seem like an unreasonable ask if she agreed to boy/girl content right up until the moment she arrived basically. and if shay was actually flirting with him, why wouldn't he ask? Something just doesn't add up here for me unless vivi lied entirely about that part. If she did lie idk why she would make the callout post in the first place if it could have been so easily refuted.
If her last reply here >>1506306
actually happened, why not mention that in the message and show it? She just mentions the dick sucking incident. There's a lot holes in her argument.
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I agree, let's not get messy YET
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I don't think any of us really 'trusted' Vivi or took her word as gospel. Some of yall need to learn how to bite your tongue & yass queen when people come bearing milk. You can air your opinions on their gross fetishes & shit after
the milk spillage is complete. We're lucky that Vivi isn't easily scared off like others who have ran away mid-spill from being antagonized.
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She is more professional than Shaynus. Are we not allowed to compliment that? We aren’t encouraging her behavior but we aren’t tearing her down for no reason. She isn’t claiming to be a victim
I mean, of course. It's a scrote beating up, waterboarding and doing other shit to a mentally ill woman. The things Shayna's exposed so far doesn't seem to out there imo though and I think if she had worse dirt she would've brought that up by now.
Although seeing vivi cry and beg in the dms is funny, because Shayna doesn't deserve all that at all.
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It is fucked up that she deleted the content and acted like it never happened. Especially since she paid for your plane ticket and welcomed you in her home. Bad manners.
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here we go, playing the victim
Shayna Clifford/Dolly Mattel #105: “Shaking Like A Leaf” edition
Kek fuck you shaynus
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Of course Shayna’s boyfriend has to reply
Listen, I hate shayna, I hate her pedopandering shit, but we cannot deny shayna getting uncomfortable with it just bc shes a sex worker. I know she talked about getting abducted, but she did it because there’s an industry for it. I don’t care if Shayna is a fat fucking retard who pedo pandered and was naked and “asking for it”, under no circumstances, should we demoralize ourselves into actually talking down on shit like this when she just posted proof. Vivi is still an ewhore along with shayna, which is why even I didn’t post anything, calling her prettier, etc, because she still would give her moid attention and will choose her moid over women. Shayna would too, but I highly expect that Vivi’s boyfriend flat out lied about Shayna when Vivi asked. ITS SUPER WEIRD she didn’t fucking mention that shayna was uncomfortable. I hate shayna, believe me. But please, this is a woman who admits to liking “degen kinks”, and gives her moid asspats and his whole fucking profile is about porn. He is A SCROTE. Shayna is pmpered, she’s awkward, I highly doubt she knows how to fucking flirt. Its why all her experiences are MEN HITTING ON HER, not reversal. This is exactly why I do not trust women who automatically say “h-he was getting hit on”, about a scrote who has no issue beating women and talking about deranged kinks of them. Shayna is not kinky, YOU ANONS KNOW THIS. YOU EVEN SAW VIVI SAY SHAYNA WASNT AS KINKY, and she would only do it to “look cool”.
There were even anons saying she isn’t as kinky as she says she is. Multiple in these recent threads. Come on. You cannot trust a porn sick scrote and his girlfriend. We know better than this.(unsaged wk-ing)
LMAO. ty nonny
, I was getting highly disappointed in the posters, so I needed a chuckle
Come on anon, Shay would 100% flirt with someone's boyfriend and try to start couple fights. She's the same bitch who couldn't let go of Fupa for years while swearing up and down he was so abusive
. Her comparing Vivi's scrote to Fupa is a huge flag that she was doing the exact maidenless shit she's being accused of.
>>1506412>u full on traumatized me
The way she doesn’t know the difference between being freaked out, being actually scared, and being traumatized. Embarrassing.
Shayna you KNEW the risks of going and you even read the threads and saw anons talking about it being a bad idea. I’m not sure what’s real or not cause it’s still being hashed out, but if her side is true then she has no right to be surprised. It would be no ones fault but her own dumbass.
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Here’s the full exchange, minus Vivis reply
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fuck I gotta go to sleep but this milk is relentless
Get the word trauma out of your mouth you spoiled, sheltered lardmonster. The nerve of this bitch to claim that being kissed off-camera is """trauma""" when the person she's speaking has experienced REAL trauma and she knows this.
Vile cunt all the way through to the core, that's Shayna Clifford.
not gonna defend the other degen BUT>Get the word trauma out of your mouth you spoiled, sheltered lardmonster.
is the absolute truth, she doesn't know true suffering, nor hardwork.
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kek Shayna just got triggered because they reminded her of her and Fupaul. Trauma my ass. What did they do Shayna? Huh?
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Actually, ngl, she has a point here. Did shayna bring up anything about it except deleting the photos? If I remember the timeline, vivi was the one that came in the thread. I dont think the kiss was trauma, nor do I think being uncomfortable is trauma, however I think shaynas reasoning for leaving is valid
. Im wondering why vivi posted all of that when they seemed fine on messages? She did seem to message shayna first, but it seemed to have gotten to her. Shayna caused her own problems, yes, but I still don’t understand why Vivi went to that extent instead of hashing it out with her. It seems petty to go onto a dramaboard and give milk instead of saying shit in her dms. Im thankful for the milk, but questioning vivi’s side a bit here.
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She’s liking tweets saying they sexually harassed her and are predators
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Just a reminder:
>has actual sexual trauma/sexual abuse history
>does this for survival an most likely self harm
>is still a degenerate tho
>no abusive past
>no sexual trauma
>does this for attention/cause is edgy or something
>has every means available to her to get out WHENEVER she wants
>is a fucking degenerate on top of all that
Like the money issue, why didn’t you ask for her to reimburse for it? (Or did you, and she already denied it?)
I’m genuinely curious. I mean no harm, but I’m wondering why you brought it to lolcow and brought up all those issues but suddenly dipped when you were the first to make it public. You knew you were going to get traction. So why did you disappear suddenly? This just makes your part look bad.
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sage your retarded ass shit then BITCH
Shayna Clifford just wants a friend to roll around on the dirty floor with while drinking 4 dollar wine and eating triscuits. For some reason the trade off for that is taking pictures with her diseased ass out and getting triggered
because her asexuality is repulsed by a fan wanting to do sexual things at a sex work sleepover visit. My opinion is she knew the red flags but wanted an excuse to travel and do something at all plus if anything sketchy happened she could play victim
and get more attention as win/win. Especially since vivi paid for the visit, she probably thought it would be fun to LARP as a real high demand model and leave as soon as the thrill wore off and shit got real. It’s not like we didn’t warn her for weeks leading up to it
>>1506503>shay whiteknight is pedo Ellen
Encouraging a recovering alcoholic to drink is a form of abuse because they have minimal resistance. Taking even one sip of alcohol and send them right back to square one.
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Vivi has recent pictures of wine bottles just laying on her floor, she obviously wasn’t sober
umm anon she doesnt leave the house to drink she gopuffs wine directly to her doorstep
anyway this is definitely my proof that shay only says shes bisexual for attention >>1506455
where is this proof shayna!>>1506491
she literally said shayna wouldnt pay her back for the food she bought with her foodstamps and then got mad at her boyfriend for drinking beers that shayna bought to share>>1506516
drinking around recovering alcoholics is a big no no if ive ever seen one>>1506524
very insightful and intelligent response almost makes me want to hi cow
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This is giving very strong "all my exs are crazy bitches" energy. As if the one common denominator isn't her. If she was a professional like she likes to pretend to be, she'd be smart and have contracts with her collabs, setting ground rules and boundaries from the start.>>1506426>he asked me>he asked if
As much as I fucking hate defending a whole ass degenerate coomer scrote. She's mad he ASKED for consent? She isn't even saying that he didn't accept no as an answer, just upset he had the audacity to ask if it'd be okay.
This is the same woman who has exposed herself to strangers in dog parks, restaurants, bars, etc. without their consent. Make it make sense.
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anon from the future again. I'm sorry girl I just find it too funny, Ily.
Shayna works with degens then when degen shit happens she plays victim
. I don't get it.
I was rooting for Vivi, but it's not like Shayna went to people who seemed professional and none shady. No two druggie, she could easily dug into her social media.
That Sol shit really hurt her, like they were in a relationship or something. Then she brings up Fupaul, something is wrong with Shayna. She can't even blame lolcow. She'll just go a year without working with weirdos before doing this all over again. Or maybe getting a scrote, her life is a shitty rerun.
She could literally be doing anything else then this.
That's why shay mentions "thank you everyone for defending me"
Because she needs as much people as she can to quickly bury this girl. Now all we're going to get is vague reminders or call out toward this girl for years to come. Shayna is going to act like a victim
and claim she was sexually harassed since Vivi is offline and nobody is going to call her on it.
not to medfag but this situation is such a prime example of Shart being BPD as fuck. A misunderstanding becomes ‘traumatizing’ because she can’t regulate her emotions and she needs to constantly be the victim
so she can’t analyze her own behavior.
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>>1505735>in the community where you live, work and go to school
All those bar stools and restaurant chairs she sat her bare ass down on in Oklahoma……
how did vivi lie? the texts don't even say that shay is just making shit up, did you not read the screenshot shay herself posted? she says "im surprised you didn't leave sooner" but the text doesn't say that at all kek
vivi seems like a much better person than shay (not that that's a hard bar to pass)
I guess Shayna expected to be pampered and catered to like she was on set with a big production company, but Vivi is a smaller content creator who paid for her flight out of her own pocket and even spent food stamps on her smh. This ungrateful ho.
Shayna used Vivi for as much as she could and then turned around and hit her with the “you full on traumatized me!” guilt trip schtick. She’s a manipulative grifter; not professional at all. That’s so frustrating and when you consider the bigger picture (Vivi is a survival sex worker, Shayna has parents begging to pay for her education) I can understand why Vivi would lash out on lolcow.
THIS. exactly this. she expected to be treated like a star
, and when she’s not she throws a fit. she’s a spoiled retard.
It's such a ridiculous reason though, especially since it seems like it only happened once. In a conversation that was about the content that was going to be created while in their home. It's not exactly outlandish to ask a single question about creating content when it's relevant to the conversation.
If he brought it up randomly or asked her repeatedly, she'd have a case. But asking ONCE in a conversation where it was 100% relevant? She's just grasping at straws to make herself out to be a victim
Seattle is about to see a huge spike in MRSA cases cause of this porker KEK>>1506688
Seriously. She wants all that but someone asking for oral sex is trauma. Shart is such a fucking useless wastoid. She's not even a good sex object which is like, the one thing you really don't have to try to be, but somehow she still fails. Objectively she can't suck or ride dick, she has no allure and clearly she fucking hates having any and all kinds of sex with anyone. Even masturbation looks arduous for her. I don't get it.
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Is she really fucking serious right now?
People that say "everyone is so mean to me!!" like this are the problem. First, they weren't even mean. Vivi was pretty decent about it all. She just felt rightfully used and upset and expressed that. She didn't say "Shayna Clifford is an ugly lying bitch that will take you for all you have and bail she loves sucking shitty dildos btw no one should ever work with her or friend her" lol.
Also love how her all her tweets and profile are like "TW
HARD KINKS" posting about being used and toyed with and wanting a dommy girl to play with her, to be imprisoned, to be seen as nothing but holes, tossed around, etc because Shay is just the uwu subbiest baby slut… BUT a girl putting a hand on her neck and kissing her ear and a dude she knew was going to be involved propositioning pretty tame content ideas is TRAUMATIC and too far. Shut the fuck up, Shay.
Be honest and admit that you pretend so fucking hard to be a kinky e whore but that you're just a lazy, alcoholic idiot who likes rolling around flopping your tits out and spreading your ass and that's it. Says shes demi but I bet shes nearly asexual tbh and just let's her boyfriend scrotes use her so theyll stick around and take her to Applebee's. Meanwhile types up and caters to the most toxic
dangerous misogynistic and pedophillic mindsets for some likes and follows.
I hope anyone who was considering working with her gets to see her constantly accuse everyone in sex degeneracy of gasp
suggesting sex acts and avoids her like the plague even harder. Imagine you work with someone who makes simulated child porn for a living, and that's who constantly points the finger at others? Holy shit, get blacklisted even farther, MRSA Mattel. I'm excited for the day she finally throws in the towel and moves on, because every day she postpones thag eventual ending just makes the hole deeper to crawl out of. I wish nothing but the worst for her!
This fake, shitty bitch omfg.
Vivi trusted YOU and let you into her house excited to make content for you both to sell and put out money for props and to fly your ugly ass out. And instead you fucked off, got drunk and high, ate all their food, and refused to do anything sexual but 1 boring photoset and now youre gonna withold and delete the content and then act dumb while throwing shade and pretending to be the victim
. Incredible. No one assaulted or even harrassed you by the sounds of it. You both have internet and looked into eachother. Vivi just didnt have a fake kink persona like you Shay.
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Shay, it doesn’t even have to be 4/20 for you to do this
So saynas just gonna pretend like she isn't a fucking scammer.
If someone already paid a prostitute for sex and at the last moment the prostitute decides not to do it, that's okay but she has to give the money back. Like, she can't fucking eat the cake and have it too.
Shatna decided to ditch vivi after being asked for consent and that's all fine and good, except she should have given the money back from the start. And I mean all of the money, including props, car rides, flight, stay, food, alcohol and drugs. Otherwise shayna just scammed vivi and vivi is right to call her out.
If someone did this to shayna she'd do the same shit Vivi did.i hate that we are going to have to hear about this for months now. Shayna making herself the victim
. Vivi should've stood her ground. Now she makes it seem like Shayna is in the right.
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Hmmmm like you?
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36k followers and only 23 of them care enough to show their support for her. How sad.
Asked her while she was here
Most of our interactions were verbal so I have no “evidence” on my side
Honestly this was just the perfect kick in the ass to move on from sex work and start doing other things, you’re right I’m a survival sex worker who’s even on disability, I don’t need to be in this shit anymore and there was no point in keeping my account up for her orbiters to harass me because I know I don’t need that kind of stuff in my head.
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Best of luck to you, Vivi ♥
What was the original plan you two discussed before she flew there? Which boundaries did she establish, which things did he back out once she got there?
I wish you the best getting out of that life, you deserve good in your life. Especially after all of this milk. Mwah.
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Fuck me man I knew Shayna was going to be looking for something to spin it around so she looks like the victim
. But I'm rooting for you Puke Vivi, get out of Sex Work and become something better and greater than Shayna will ever be.♥
You know what GOOD. Shayna is a woman who has a family who will pay for her education and save her from this life. She dates pedo panderers with childern and women who steal pacifiers from childern she's baby sitting and posts about it online for kink.
I truly hope you leave sex work and do better. Being involved with shayna may have seriously saved you from a life of bullshit. Go to therapy, as you said you are,treat your body better and just do what's best for you. Seriously
Shay is barely making any money and has like a couple people who interact with her and Womack who pays her bills. She’ll never be able to fall hard because she has supportive parents that will catch her the minute she does.
It won’t be until shay is 35, unemployed, no hobbies, miserable and obese sleeping with a CPAP and is scheduled for gal-bladder surgery, will all this come back around to bite her in her ass.
She established that she wanted to work with both of us initially, a few days before she arrived I mention b/g and she says she doesn’t actually want to so I say okay will you think about it and she says she will when she meets him. Mind you she barely talked to him because her and I were just sitting in the studio being “goofy gal pals” instead of working and I only saw him in the morning at before bed. I agreed to not push the subject of b/g until she started whining about not doing her bj scene. I tried to ask her to sign a bdsm scene consent waiver where she could mark down what she was/wasn’t comfortable with and how intense she wanted thing, what they use at kink actually, she said to me it wasn’t necessary because “we’re into the same stuff” I felt really weird because I had tried to video chat her multiple times before the trip to plan thing a ahead and she never wanted until the time she convinced me to buy a bunch of costumes.>>1506840
She saw me take one because I was nervous and asked what it was and I said Xanax and she immediately was like “oh sweet, can I buy some off you later?”
Thanks for being cool guys
SA, Shayna has a habit of of only revealing "abuse" or "bad behaviors " from people when she wants to get revenge. Rather it's true or false people like that cannot be trusted.
She's going to do this to Ellen as well, suddenly she'll become the older woman who "traumatized" her and took advantage of her while she's in a bad place. But only because Ellen pissed her off, not because she truly felt that way.
I'm not as against sex work as the other nonnas here (I understand why they dislike it and it's valid
) but this is really good news. I feel bad that disgusting Shayna was the final nail in the coffin for you, but I truly hope you can move on to bigger and better things, Vivi.
Shayna comes off like someone who could easily get into harder drugs because she doesn't really like what she does. She has to be under the influence to function. If she ever meets a scrote whose into hard drugs it's only a matter of time before she gets hooked.
Shayna tries to outdo people so I 100% believe she probably was like, "we are into the same shit"
Also was she complaining about the sol blow job scene? If so it really feels like she had feelings or something for him.
Or maybe a scrote fucking her over hurts her ego more.
Damn, so it confirms he's the first man she's truly been attracted to since Fupaul, because she never harps on about Ellen or the other old scrote she "dates". I really feel like she liked him and had things went differently they'd probably be in a fake "poly" relationship.
Her bringing him up to you is messy anyway.
Doesn't Ellen live with her elderly parents? Tinfoil on tinfoil but if Ellen's parents have prescriptions that could be a source of drugs for Shayna.>>1506869
Thank you for finally confirming the tit tinfoil after all these years. Good luck on getting out of sex work.
This. I am genuinely so confused WHY Shayna would draw attention to this place where her piece of shit behavior has been documented for like… 5 years. Other than being a moron who will do anything for asspats and is incapable of thinking things through. >>1506528
. She’s absolutely insufferable. Cannot take responsibility for anything.>>1506784
Good for you, girl. You might check out temp agencies while you get on your feet. This job isn’t healthy. >>1506820
Couldn’t agree more. Shayna chews people up and spits them out and can’t acknowledge her own bad decisions.>>1506845
Jfc that’s so much more professional than Shayna could be. You tried to establish limits WTF is her damage? She probably didn’t want to discuss them so that if she didn’t get what she wanted she could cry aboose. God.
>>1506845> she said to me it wasn’t necessary because “we’re into the same stuff”
Idk this tells me she never had intentions on filming. She just wanted you to pay for her plane ticket so she could fuck off on someone else’s dime.
>we’re into the same stuff>they were into harder things than I am comfortable with uwu
This is why larping as a super kinky sex worker is dangerous. There’s nothing wrong with backing out if you’re uncomfortable but it seemed like everything was on the table. It’s not like vivi claimed to be super vanilla. Her hard-kink stuff was pretty well advertised and noted on her Twitter.
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I'll have you in my prayers Vivi. May you heal and prosper. We thank you for all this delicious colostrum milk. ♥
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Dropping some new Tumblr responses
I agree she’s avoiding discussing limits or consent so she can cry aboose afterwards when she feels like it. What retarded mental gymnastics do you have to go through to think that being beat by scrotes is supposed to be empowering when you don’t even negotiate before the scene? BDSMfags explain yourselves.
Shay’s karma for this disaster with Vivi is going to be running into the wrong person who will actually hurt her. I’m not wishing that on Shayna, but she’s manifesting it. Fuck around and find out.
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“She’s insane” always so classy Shay
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“She’s insane” “her life is a mess and I feel bad for her”
Shayna is literally a mean girl. This is some juvenile bullying crap. Embarrassing.
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I must be a lady and not a-log
I must be a lady and not a-log
I must be a lady and not a-log
She’s such a cunt. Shay if you felt bad for her you wouldn’t be siccing your white knights on her and making post after post seething about her. She’s a horrible person and I’m sick of watching her play the victim
time and time again. She’s so predictable. It’s telling that despite the amount of followers she has, she gets minimal engagement on her sympathy fishing and “callout” posts.
projection. Of course HER life isn't a mess!
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Me and the nonnies manifesting this vile future for this vile cow.
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she most likely has infected noodle…
Standards? Shay calling someone elses.life a mess? This one tit bitch is crazy. Shayna you fucked a baby daddy who immediately married a girl a year after you left. All the men you hang with are ugly old coomers who pay you in dollar tree shit. You are still pining over a shitty dick weirdo who you paid to suck his dick then he dropped you after a few twitter sex workers called him out. You are ugly, with a miserable life. You have to act like animals and babies because nobody would pay your hank hill, dropped tit ass any attention otherwise.
You have to be drunk/high to deal with the mess of your life. Shut the fuck up.
Don't worry, it's coming soon. Shayna only gets past drama because it's with nobodies. She's going to piss off the wrong person with enough twitter power that the few orbiter and her fake Twitter number won't save her.
Shayna behaves this way because she hasn't truly been canceled. She would easily quit if their was no way she could come back, funnily enough I feel like Ellen will be her downfall. Shayna is the type who becomes a casuality in someone else's bullshit. She's not even interesting and relevant enough to be the main Character but a side character. The state of her life and body is already a punishment. It's so annoying seeing her never truly get called out but it'll happen sure enough.
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“To me being a bimbo is literally showing that we can be powerful and sexual.”
Does she really think she has any nerve to call someone’s life a mess when she literally pays an old bald guy to smack her? At least viv has an actual boyfriend who isnt an old guy from Seeking Arrangements. He does more than finger her in an Applebee’s parking lot.
Yep, which is why i feel like she has some kinda group chat that she only pops into when she wants sympathy or protection. Kinda like the discord (i'm sure she's popping off in her new one). It makes zero sense how everyone runs out the woodworks for drama. They don't even do that when she's sucide baiting.
Her attack dog Bratty literally only interacts to try and bitch someone about Shayna.
I would'nt be surpised if she tips them or something before hand.There's a cow on Kiwifarms, who married a convicted Pedo and when he molested her childern she didn't believe them. She admitted that on kiwifarms in the onision thread. She used to do these Cash App giveaways, which was literally a way for her to build a following of ass kissers and boost her numbers. Shayna is like that, she only supports people so they can support her in her time in need.
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I love how she’s acting like she didn’t plan on fucking the bf because she ‘has standards’ when it was obvious they were planning on a threesome/hardcore content from the start. See >>1457273
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They had already established a hardcore shot and now shayshay is complaining about the ‘weird shit they were pulling her through’. It doesn’t add up girl.
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This tweet also makes it clear that they were planning on all doing stuff together. I get that Shayna had no obligation to fuck her scrote but freaking out like that over the idea of sucking his dick after acknowledging that he would be involved is fucked up
Yup. Shayna deleted all the tweets because they clearly show she flew out to shoot hardcore kink with both of them, and then sat around the studio drinking and popping Vivi’s pills like the lazy bitch she is. Vivi called her out publicly on her lack of professionalism, and only THEN Shayna started playing the victim
and pretending she was uwu traumatized by getting kissed and the guy suggesting they shoot content together. I get super bad vibes from Vivi’s scrote boyfriend and wouldn’t want him anywhere near me either, but Shayna deliberately PUTS HERSELF into these situations and then cries victim
whenever anyone expects her to do what she promised.
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She uploaded a new gross incest video. Same boring formula as always.
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This tweet too, they were obviously under the assumption that the kinks she goes on and on about were things she’s actually into. But she’s vanilla as it comes. She should have seen the red flags and just, either not gone or filled out the damn bdsm contract and solved all of this, but she saw an opportunity to take advantage of someone and took it
Oh lord I cannot believe I'm posting on here. Look, Vivi isn't exactly innocent either. Neither is her bf. Shayna sucks, majorly. However, 1st off, if she wanted to not do sw as her main 'career' with getting disability and foodstamps she would find a way. She is not in the true category of survival sex work! She lives with parents and gets food stamps while disabled. That picture of her and Delano shows they drink or he does. Makes no sense how Vivi can't be around alcohol with Shayna, but can be with her bf. They might not do hard drugs, but weed mixed with liquor can fuck a person up to the point its like they're on hard drugs. Weed is potent these days! 2nd, Vivi is gaining more traction on her porn profile on pornhub because of this drama and bs. Her and Delano are milking this to her advantage. She needed an out to delete her twitter, get a better platform as the twitter whore whose better looking than infamous Shaynerd, yet has no more content and you want more content from her when you see all her shortened "actual good porn". I think she's trying to become a true kinkstar and wants to be out of the OF fail bubble so many twitter whores are in. 3rd, she wants to truly sell the image of twitter whore whose truly worth getting off to: a failed drug addict whose so sweet, yet innocent, yet problematic, yet dirty, disgusting, yet a true BPD scum fuck who is actually a sick depraved freak and her image is reflective of her porn & image! This whore can sew, she can cook, she can hold an ugly emo bf who would do literally anything for her, yet she's a failed bpd drug addict whose life is choas & revolves around being worthy of showering $$$ to by truly being what she represents as a failed e-whore. Honestly,I don't doubt Vivi actually wanted Shaynerd as her kinkstar OF buddy to fuck with Delano, but get real. They're all depraved drug addicts who just want an excuse to use drugs and fuck. If she actually wanted to get better, she'd get off all drugs, properly medicate, and get real therapy, not a stupid porn career that enables her dumb drug addiction.
this would have been the prime opportunity to message Vivi and say “hey, I never agreed to involving him at all, just want to clarify it will only be you and I engaging with each other, right?” but no, she plays into it. she is not a victim
What I also fail to understand is apparently from a tweet capped in this thread, Vivi (as per Shay's words) was begging Shay to come back to Seattle with her to get away from her boyfriend.
Is this not a red flag that things aren't okay? Nobody is obligated to help a girl that is crying out but I thought they were supposed to be friends? I would have talked to the girl more about it and at least tried to be there for her or something. It just makes me feel off that Shayna totally disregarded Vivi's cry for help and then left? She couldn't at least check up on her or offer for Vivi to come alone and stay for a few days to get away? Why can't Shay man up and say when she got there she didn't feel like making content with them so she left…fucking porky the pig has no class or empathy. Completely selfish as always and I'm not kissing Vivi's ass but I do hope she seeks further help and a career path because she is actually self aware, was totally considerate of Shay's feelings and did NOTHING wrong. She wanted to work and make content that was agreed upon, maybe tried to make a move when she was intoxicated and then apologized profusely and did not try to again. Am I missing something? What a mess.
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Uh oh, someone told her Fupa is engaged. Meltdown incoming, unless she lurked here and already knows
I think it's time people who come here, saying they have milk to STAND UP and just say who you are. If you are an orbiter of shayna just say that. Vivi isn't innocent, she isn't a upstanding person, but she's honest.
If you notice, here we respect honesty. It takes a lot to admit you are a fuck up, something Shayna can't do unless she wants sympathy. So just say who you are. If you want a slap fight with Vivi to defend Shayna be outright with it.
Girl you admit you fucking check on him, you just brought him up yesterday. You knew he was engaged. You just are mad he doesn't care about you calling him abusive
and he's moved on quickly.
I feel like she knows and it hurts her that other people know Fupaul doesn't give a shit. It's a reminder that she was nothing to him, but a long waste of time.
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She looks like she’s melting in that position but I guess it’s the only one she can do where she can hide her fat gut as best she can. Other then that, really fucking boring looking video don’t even waste your time
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ok so shes always tweeting about her ex whos this vile person that traumatized her and bla bla but shes “happy that hes happy” like totally makes sense Shayna kek u reacting to it shows how fragile u are when hit THAT nerve.
also, Shayna keep the “i dont know why people is so mean to me” when its fuckin obvious like u got a 100+ thread on a forum site that could actually be your fans if u were such a great person like why do u have so many “””haterz””” and 5 fans? not even an active orbiter fan for all these years, she always fuck things up.
Shayna probably was talking about Sol and that blow job the whole time, not to defend Vivi's scrote boyfriend but Shayna doesn't seem to have any self awareness.
Maybe she kept talking about Sol and how she sucked his dick and she was upset the video never got posted and boyfriend scrote was like, "Well you can suck my dick for content".
Which is gross, but the fact that Shayna still has that Scrotes bootyhole flavored dick taste on her tongue, proves how crazy she is.
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oh no here we go
She'll never be cancelled because she's not relevent, though she will eventually get shunned , shit talked and forgotten, because she's an idiot. The coomers paying for her shit do it because thats what coomers do. They don't give a fuck about her rep in the sex work community.
Shayna's not worried about losing coomers, she's worried about other sex workers shit talking her, which will make it harder for her to become "viral", if the girls with the big names don't support or like her.
She literally has a family who'd help her pay for school and would more then likely move her up out of where she is and guide her.
Also "Shaynerd", nothing nerdy about Shayna Orbiter. You are so stuck up her ass you can't even pretend to hate her properly.
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Ignore this sperg and stop responding to bait, her seething with wear her out soon enough
>>1507046This is the Yellow one titted one isn't it? Or ratty Bratty?
, Well it's amazing how it's been years and we can see Shayna isn't a nice person despite her grossness, yet it only took a day or so for us to see something redeemable in Vivi despite her fucked up ways. I know it may be a shocker, but sometimes people can be brought up in toxic
situations, do fucked up things and still not be bad people.
Unlike Shayna who grew up decently, and chooses to be this way. If her parents and boyfriend enable this shit,thats prove shit is fucked up for Vivi.
Shayna's parents don't and want her to stop, there's a difference.
Okay Ellen. Shut the fuck up and go back to biting Shays infected ass boils.
Not saying Vivi is a saint,but this is 100% Ellen or Bratty or some other brain dead shit licking Shayna wrangler.
This isn't bait. A lot of you are delusional. I know this site can't actually get taken down for the supposed doxxing plus libel & slander it puts out there. This site is like EncyclopediaDramatica, but way more ADHD, sped, and validating to people who have the brains of well functioning 8 year olds when they choose sides when you can judge both & obviously they can both suck equally. Ever thought of that?
Lol seriously, they both do abdl pedo pandering porn and Vivi has a video labelled as getting off a teen on pornhub. They all just, idk, suck. I don't understand how you guys can't realize that…
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Oh shit, we dun goofed
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Right here she acknowledges she will be filming with both of them. There’s no fucking way she had no idea the boyfriend would be involved.
Her increasing resemblance to a rotisserie chicken is shocking.>>1507056
Seethe harder and learn to sage.
I believe Shayna is a pill popper and like her tit, it's something she doesn't feel is "cool" to talk about. It's an actual issue she has and like her boils, she tries to hide it because it's more serious then her wine drinking.
So yes, Shayna is keeping Ellen around for a reason and it's not just company. Every person Shayna's not truly attracted too is someone she's using 100% of the time.
She's Shayna in the future except slightly less selfish. Then again, I can see Shayna doing all this for a scrote and then throwing it in their face. Like how she'd bring up giving Fupaul money when she was mad. I feel like she let him borrow JUST So she could talk shit.
Sidenote- Shayna always gets with losers because she thinks their standards are lower, but besides Ellen she manages to ALWAYS find the most egotistic loser scrotes in the world. From Fupaul walking around like the bad bitch, having Shayna chase and want to die over him, tying her up like a hog, and then making her leave to get over him. To these older guys, who barely pay her for her time and fake date her to be able to grope her for free/cheap a few times a week.
Shes yet to find that scrote who'd take candids of her and show them to their friends to brag, even if she's literally looking UNDER the barrel for men. Sad.
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so Ellen got her butt looking likes this too? yikes
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She’s never gonna let this shit go. Also, stop cowtipping. She’s just gonna use it as ammunition and for more pity points
blaming” please Shay
Shay is a scammer and user and always has been. She also deals with shit the same way. All the way back to the bong give away she did on tumblr when she was just a weed blog and you had to be following her to win. She picked a girl who was cute and kinda popular; but not too popular. She never sent the bong. The girl asked and Shat was all like "Im so sorry I will send it", Couple weeks later the girl asked again and Shat said she would send it, then blocked the girl a couple days later for "harassing" her. Like a week later she posted either a photo-set with that bong/a new bong; and anyone who asked if she sent it to the winner was blocked.
She uses everyone and when she is held accountable she claims to be the victim
. Look what she did with Conner and Dawn. She tried to use Fupa for his money and 'clout' but he made her be the dirty little secret and moved on. Kek She is using Ellen for sure, and as soon as they break up she will be the victim
Vivi, I feel bad she did this too you and is doing the same 'victim
' shit she always has. I really wish nothing but the best for you. I hope quitting sex work is easy for you, and that you have a much better life in the future.
this just says shes not really into it, she just want the emoney; thats why she goes with all the kinks she can.
Also, Shatna youre not a victim
lmao shes still with this shit as it was harrasement or rape or some terrible thing
well, i thought bimbos were blowjob queens, seems like youre not even that.
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Hopefully she doesn’t use the toilet at Ellen’s parents house or go sitting on their furniture commando because they are both disabled cancer survivors
Cognitive dissonance, if she constantly talks about it and never actually says that she’s just larping, then of course everyone will assume she’s being for real.
And if she really isn’t into whole ass disgusting incest fantasies, then why even write them? She isn’t even getting any true engagement from her followers, she isn’t and will never go viral. She should just give up and go for her parents that are still willing to give her a whole ass education and a whole ass new life.
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Alright, which one of you was this?
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I can confidently say that the cowtippers aren't farmers. Must be a bunch of ewhores ridding the wagon with us, that also goes to the ones who are asking "WHicH oNE oF YOus waS ThIS??" and posting caps.
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Fupa pull up with the video of Shayna being an abusive
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shayna, they weren’t looking for a 3rd to add to their relationship. you were there to WORK, to make content! they weren’t flying you out for a date.
this proves she wasn’t flying out there to work. she wanted the two of them to fawn over her so she could play fake celebrity and take some pics. pathetic, truly.
the audacity of this cunt to think she has the right to comment on somebody else’s relationship when she was in a toxic
ass relationship for SO LONG and cried about it constantly on Twitter, how she would cry about how abusive
he is on Twitter then delete them whenever she would take him back. say whatever about Vivi, but I can’t stand a fucking hypocrite like Shayna. cries about being cancelled in the SW community but then is quick to burn any bridge she could have.
If she really was worried about Vivi having a toxic
boyfriend/the potential of him being abusive
, why would she air it out in public as if that wouldn’t agitate an abuser and put Vivi in more danger?
Not saying he is an abuser (although not saying he isn’t) but it just shows Shay’s fucking retarded and has never been in a terrifying situation herself where she would know these things.
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Except your not a baby, you’re an adult who’s too drunk to be using knives. Also this is just gross why is she posting this on her pedo account
Idk maybe this is a woketard thing but since when do people expect consent for kissing? If someone was like “can I kiss you?” I’d be instantly turned off. What are we, 13? Just kiss me and if I’m not into it I’ll say so but what now I gotta yell THATS MY PURSE I DONT KNOW U
If she was there for work- SEX WORK- wouldn’t kissing be implied ? Like that’s what gets people in the mood. But then the BF asks for dick sucking consent and she’s still uncomfortable. I’m so confused
She's got a fake tit, MRSA boils on her ass and wipes her shit off her dildos because she doesn't prepare for anal. Yes, we are ABSOLUTELY jealous of this queen.
Vivi! If you're still here - what does Shay smell like? I imagine it's BO and old weed.
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you absolutely know if it was some scrote she found hot it would have been 100% okay, and she likely would have fawned about it online non-stop. Giving me vibes like this comic.
Not sure what you meant by the last sentence of the first paragraph, but hard agree with the rest. Kissing most always happens when one or both parties put out/pick up on signals. If they were drinking then it’s easy to accidentally misinterpret or put out signals. She’s acting like vivi was sober and took advantage of her, but it was a level playing field. If shayna didn’t like it, she could’ve told her to stop. Vivi even said she didn’t remember it, so I doubt there was feelings and shayna could have just pretended it didn’t happen if it made her uncomfortable and she didn’t want it to impact their relationship. Also, by not setting boundaries and planning their shoots better, she honestly brought this shit on herself. I wouldn’t normally say that since I don’t like victim
blaming, but it is literally her line of “work” and every sex worker with a singular brain cell would know how important that shit is and how easily it can impact an experience when working with strangers. Literally bottom the of barrel retardation.
Nah, we don't want them. Especially that disgusting nonce Soy, he can rot. >>1507170
Yeah, that screenshot about knife play posted earlier gave me bad vibes. Hope she's not letting him cut her up or anything like that.
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>>1507227> Not sure what you meant by the last sentence of the first paragraph
Bobby from King of the Hill takes a women’s self defense class and learns about consent kek
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Her sweater is also gross. It's dirty and pilled.
You can get a cheap shaver that gets rid of those things.(autistic nitpick)
Really disgusting of Shayna to air personal details Vivi told her in private (that she wanted to leave her boyfriend, that she was recording their fights etc.) This guy seems obsessed with Vivi, beats her up on camera, and owns lots of guns and knives. If the situation is abusive
and she’s trying to get out, Shayna could be putting her life in danger by airing this shit. All because she called Shayna out for being unprofessional. What a massive piece of shit Shayna is.
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Oh no guys Shayna is having a bad day. We should stop being mean! Kek go rot Shayna Clifford
What do you expect? Her clothes are all cheap and from the clearance rack.
Forgot to sage sorry nonnies
This explains so much to me.>>1506823
I’ve always wondered about >>>/snow/907031
in response to >>>/snow/907036>>1506845> never wanted [to video chat] until the time she convinced me to buy a bunch of costumes.
I’m willing to bet this is so you wouldn’t have solid evidence on her since saying a video is fake is way way harder than texts. Also, what a scumbag she is.>>1506924
Same, nonna, same!>>1506928>>1506938
This is one of the reasons I think Shayna is such a piece of shit, she always makes her remarks appear they come from a place of concern and her being such a good person. May you never find peace, Shayna Clifford.
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Kek @ the way the filter keeps glitching out when she smokes and the day bed meant for children creaking under her fat ass. What is her obsession with this song? https://streamable.com/6wieq2
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Jesus Christ. I had forgotten about her rotting nail-beds. She is a walking STD.
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Glitches are my favourite. Spoilered just in case.
this is a fucking cardboard cut from her Amazon packages. there's no way you'd ever hold a knife like a normal person and it would cut you like this.
also Shayna has been in and out of the hospital for bReAtHiNG pRoBleMs (why??? >>1507300
I don't understand) and she's spreading her freak MRSA strains and acquiring new ones every fucking time.
selfish gross bitch
It looks like there's a piece of clear tape going right across the front of the diaper?
I've only seen ones which have sticky tabs on both sides rather than a bit that goes completely across and I've seen them a lot in the medical setting.
Unless these are special "sexy" diapers or something
you can see there’s tape right across the front. Regardless, you’d think she’d buy cute ones
If I had a crystal ball it would probably show me Shays mugshot. Sage for future sperg but she reminds me so much of those groomer girlfriends who help their pedo bfs lure in victims
and either turns blind eye to the abuse or actively participate. If that ever happens she’s going away for life thanks to her giant internet footprint.
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the difference between her deep dark eyebags in the real photo vs. the edited one is crazy. At least she was nice enough to slim Vivi's face as well
If Vivi was trying to boost herself and sell more content this is the worst place to do it considering most of the farmers ITT are anti-sex work.
Shay went out there to do a fucking job that was discussed multiple times beforehand. If you commissioned an artist to draw porn for you that you discussed and described beforehand, would it be okay for them to tap out as soon as the money changed hands and then publicly air out your messages and requests for the commission after you called them out for not doing the job you agreed on? Of course not, because that would be unprofessional as fuck. Shay has been working in porn since she was 18, if she can’t firmly declare what she will and won’t do in a shoot before she shows up then that’s her own problem. Going on twitter and crying about someone asking for a blowjob would be understandable if she worked a normal job with a code of conduct and an HR office, but she doesn’t. She’s a slovenly hermit who acts like a big bad kinkster on twitter and then shits her pants when a guy she agreed to make porn with asks her once for a blowjob and takes no for an answer. Listen to any post-career interview with Lana Rhodes or Mia Khalifa and you’ll realise that Shay has absolutely nothing to complain about.
>>1507227>I don’t like victim blaming, but it is literally her line of “work”
Shayna is acting like her & Vivi met up to braid each others' hair and make friendship bracelets or some shit and this horrible man brought up sex out of nowhere. You're a literal whore, Shayna. Your goal in meeting with these people was to get sexual with them. You were paid money to do this "job", which you fully agreed on beforehand, and are fully in control of as it's happening if you don't want to do something.
Stop clutching your pearls as though you were randomly accosted while dining al fresco in the park with your parasol.
Also she even says that she suspects that Vivi's boyfriend was behind her calling Shayna out. Do you really believe that, Shaynus? Because if you truly believe he's that controlling, why would you choose to publicly lambast the girlfriend that you SAY he's manipulating? That seems like going out of your way to shit on someone that you've just painted as a victim
who needs help.
Glad you're okay
Huh. It sounds like he cares about you. Shayna must have been insanely jealous that a Twitter sex worker just like her can have a real life relationship, and she can’t. I bet she was flirting with him, saw she couldn’t sway him, and her delusions of grandeur were shattered kek Fupa could never.
Didn’t she say the reason she wanted to leave was because your BF reminded her of fupapa to your face, and then claimed it was BF asking for a bj once she was on Twitter?
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>>1507378>y'all y'all y'all
This you, Vivi?
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friendly reminder that this what actually her face looks like
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The absolute state of her chapped lips…
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>Shaynus: I love your cock in my pussy
>Also Shaynus: holding a dildo
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god damn… that face
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hahahhahahahahaha what the FUCK(autism)
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I can’t breathe wtf is this
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Spoiler for bepimpled anus
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I'm gonna barf. How can it be shaved and still look that bad???? The grey skintone, the zombie veins, how discolored it all is in multiple ways…
This is vomitrocious
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She's 100% a pill popper, she's always talking about Degen giving her "special pills" for muh anXietY and claimed to lose medication when she lost her luggage not long ago.
Not to mention her disgusting CSA fantasies about being drugged and raped all the time. Pretty sure she was taking pills when she was in Oklahoma too. >>1507484
Those chapped lips look painful, she must feel her lips cracking and splitting when she smiles, it's crazy how it doesn't seem to bother her. Put the bottle down Shayna and get some water and Chapstick you munted goblin.
I'm sorry, I know I should leave it alone but I just can't. Champagne is sparkling wine.
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Apologies for the utterly fucked side-by-side, but I’m new to Shat’s thread and going through her threads chronologically. It is a devistating, lovecraftian nightmare that this is and even can be the same woman. Thoughts and prayers to the parents. Same rig and pose and everything. Fucked what a couple of years can do to a person. She’s like that nasty old woman from The Twits; bitter, nasty, narcissistic and cruel on the inside to the point where it corrodes everything on the outside.
Sorry Nona, always thought Shay was boring until yesterday’s milk, saw a new pic posted that was extremely similar yet worse to a pic praised at the time (praise being a term used very lightly here) as being ‘one of the few actually flattering pics’ of her from the first thread that is available after the deletion of her previous threads, and it just kinda stuck out that it’s essentially the same image, but it’s rotted with time. Wasn’t aware of an ongoing issue/annoyance with before/after pics. Just saw a recent pic of her was a twisted version of a better pic she posted years ago.
Also correction, it is not the same rig, just similar to the one she used in a weirdly very similar photo from six years ago. Again, posted the comparison because it looks like the same picture but cursed. Apologies if repeating her own history but worse to a specific margin of detail is just something that she does and I should have known about it.
I’ll write another Nona, don’t tempt.
kek you could write an entire odyssey about how inner ugliness turned this bitch into a fucking animorph based on two pictures alone, and in this essay it will be proven beyond reasonable doubt that-
European anon here, sorry if this comes across as “ask burgerland” but is Champagne generally cheaper in the states? Because over here the cheapest non brand is like £14/16 where as cava Prosecco is like £5/7 - I always wonder this when Shay posts about champagne tbh.
Also imagine drinking flat sparkling wine the morning after. Shay be nasty
saged degenerate blogpost. i use real knives on my scrote, and im sure most people do. he likes his skin being grazed with them. (sometimes superficial cuts, if the blade is sharpened, but only in certain scenarios where cutting is the intention). otherwise its not easy to accidentally break the surface of the skin, because knives are quite blunt unless you sharpen them, or unless you actively push hard across/into the skin. simply holding an unsharpened knife to skin is not that dangerous. choking on the other hand is more dangerous than people think.
point being, its safer than it sounds. the allure of it is the fantasy/association with danger. acrylic is not cold to the touch. it wouldnt even be a good imitation. a fantasy has to be somewhat authentic. if someone is worried about accidentally hurting someone, blunt knives are safe. just avoid stabbing them with the tip.
and dont worry, i am responsible. i would never cause my scrote any harm. he is the best thing to ever happen to me. so vivi's scrote being into this doesnt mean he doesnt love her.
vivi, i dont say this as a therapist, but as a friend. i think you feel more comfortable "being fucked", because it takes a lot of true vulnerability to "make love". it takes the soul to be open, to trust another person, while "being fucked" means you only give your body. even if youre submissive and physically vulnerable, your mind is still yours. your defences are still up. maybe your mind wanders, or you treat sex as an act to play, a role to fulfill and behave a certain way, rather than something from within. "fucking" is not intimate or personal, therefore youre not leaving the comfort zone of your soul being your own fortress where you cant be hurt anymore. non-personal sex can even be a form of self harm, it was for me. im working on this too. thats how it is for me. hugs
as someone who's just sat back and watched everything go down without commenting the last few days, including anons fawning over vivi while negging her lol, i think everyone here is forgetting there's three sides to every story. i think there's definitely truth to what both the girls are saying, we have texts etc. if you listen to both sides it's kinda obvious what happened. i think they both have personality disorders, fueled it with alcohol and weed, and fumbled/dropped the ball when it came to making content, and now they're both floundering melting down on eachother and throwing eachother on the bus. and for what exactly? whos the better sworker? for this delano guys attention??? nah idk.
vivi, if you're still reading, don't forget most people on these sites are cows themselves, don't debase yourself for anyone including these mean girls. you even admitted you browse here and the chans. at least you have some sense to get out of it. shay will continue to do this forever because she has to prove the haters wrong…kind of how the haters are keeping amberlynn fat. sage for soft rant.
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Why tf are you writing essays in the thread. Fucking annoying no one cares
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Franken tit is a completely different shape and size compared to her other one. Kek mismatched boobs
i put it in the subject line by accident XD
and im a different anon than the other one, this is my only post.
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Someone come pick up your lost child before we turn them into the authorities, thank you.
i was literally just stating my opinion on the situation, is this not a discussion thread? what's your problem anon?
the debate going back and forth between who's lying is ongoing when i was just saying there's three sides to every story. they're both just acting like teenage girls dragging eachother, and everyone in this thread acts like they're above it when we're all literally here talking about the same damn thing…
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pls fuck off back to twitter gaddamn it. Gatekeeping good lord
Sorry, maybe I should’ve worded it differently.
No one here gives a fuck about YOU.
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i wasn't comparing, simply saying what i think happens when drugs/alcohol/mommy issues try to make sex work happen, they're both just blaming eachother… im literally trying to discuss the thread topic
and just keep getting these unecessary rude replies? if anything youu're the retard derailing.>>1507823
shay for relevancy cause children ruined this thread. rip
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What is going on itt KEK stop it
Yeah, what basically happened is both of these girls are mentally unstable substance abusers. One of them is a survival sex worker so she's willing to go further and actually… Work, and the other just took her clothes off on Tumblr for attention.
That's the key difference. Shayna thought she was going to California to have fun and take cute lewds, and then fuck off and do drugs. Something like her proshoots, where the most she has to do was get hit and play dress up. So naturally she freaked the fuck out when she realized she was going to actually have to do the "work" part of sex work with a man she doesn't know. It made her realize she's just another $3.99 onlyfans hoe. That's her trauma. Poor shaynus
This isn't a dig on you anon, and this isn't directed to you specifically, but I just want to point out that there isn't necessarily a unified "we" here.
I can't speak for anyone else but I'm not buying that the same sw who openly lied pretending to be a "friend" of Vivi's and then revealed herself and admitted to having been on lolcow and cgl like it's some kind of street cred has just been a kindhearted little uwu victim
all along. I have no doubt Vivi has posted here before shit-talking Shayna to fit in (even if it wasn't all those "y'all" posts), all while kissing her ass on twitter. Shayna may use people, but all the people she's used have been just as degenerate and two-faced as her. Vivi's post >>1505585
read as an embarrassing cry for attention.
"We" is the general consensus of this place or mood at the moment. And I know you're not directing this at my post, but I didn't mean to imply that we see Vivi as a victim
, just that most anons here would support a victim
of a cow. If Vivi happens to seem like one, you'll see a lot of positive support posts like I'm reading now. Vivi can't fix the harm of adding to the community of pedo pandering, but I think pretty much every anon here believes it would be great and redeemable if she quit. And I'm not going to shame her for wanting attention or being a low key troll because I appreciate the milk. If an adjacent cow comes in here with deets then I'm going to read without animosity.
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Not sure the point of this
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But you’re totally NOT a pedo Shay
Champagne is wine? And I’m sure they’re talking about generic sparkling wine anyways…seriously, nonny
, go take your meds.
I swear to god, every time I read about how “traumatized” Shay is, just brings me closer to wishing real trauma on her lying, scamming, MRSA-infected ass. She might be the one woman on earth I wouldn’t pity if she were actually raped at this point. It’s unbelievably insulting to actually victims
for her to call her own experience “traumatic.” You’re a sex worker, you flew out to make content with another content creator, they inquired about making content with you (as previously discussed). She’s retarded, but even she must have known that sex worker content would involve…sex? And work? The same bitch that told a victim
of trafficking to get fucked in the ass. Shay, kys.
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Can’t wait for this disaster
If you aren't seeing an actual therapist, please start doing so. You and your scrote aren't going to be able to get to the bottom of your issues. You need an actual professional for that.>>1507994
Is this with the Shaysquatch photographer? I'm so fucking excited.
Shayna does have big thighs and they are only getting bigger, so I assume the discoloration is going to get worse. I never realized how much she photoshops her body because she photoshops her body to look "slightly" better, not to make it look great.
I didn't think she had this much discoloration yet, but seems like it didn't happen over night, she just shops it away and doesn't care about showing it in paid content.
I can imagine her getting blisters from thigh rubbage next.
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Idk here in England Prosecco has its own culture like people don’t say champagne they’re like “oh Prosecco brunch with the girls!”
But yeah, shock to no one it’s shay trying to fake being high class bimbo
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Google mole nails and this is what they look like. So ugly.
Yeah, but Shayna takes whoever will take her, which are bottom of the barrel broke-ish older men. These men know they aren't a catch but the way that Shayna holds herself makes them feel like, "She's younger, she's not super attractive but she doesn't want much but company, I'm the prize".
Men would treat Shayna better, and she'd attract better older scrotes who actually want to spend money on her, if she set those standards.
Shayna could actually be a good sugar baby if she wasn't desperate and sex repulsed, She's the type of woman so thirsty for attention she probably does make men think, they are all she needs, she's happy and excited to have them around. Except thats it, her payment is attention. She's cheap and men already treat women like shit, so they'll treat a cheap woman who they feel is retarded even worse.
There are women who look worse than Shay who can get older men to do more, just by being young, available and making it known what their relationship is. These men "Date" shayna so they don't have to be expected to do what little they do. Just dinner, I kinda feel like Shayna is fucking these dudes, but it's not glamrous or something she enjoys, so she's not going to bring it up.
She probably just lays their and lets them do their business, just so she doesn't have to spend a friday alone or pay for a meal.
The gradient is a slight improvement but I imagine as soon as you see them from the side, they’re shooting upwards off her nail.
The technical skill just isn’t there
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Her edited pic compared to what the photographer posted is hilarious
she forgot to edit that left meat from her arm lol yassss skinny bimbo kween!! >>1508170
i agree, i get the vibes that she actually has sex for money or dinner with gross men for a time now; its like theres a line between this CP Fatna and the “barbie” Fatna, no more camming and then no more content but its just my tinfoil.
plot twist: the guys that take her out to dinner are actually feeders
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can implant anons please explain this scar/armpit roll? it's been confusing me for months, I don't think she has it on the other side and it moves so unnaturally
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Her diaper account just gets worst